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Hi! I love your videos! Have you considered doing this sort of video, but with power banks? Like the ones that are $200 or less. A lot of people can't afford the full size generators, but there are a lot of power banks that could provide people with a few days of phone charges after an emergency. After our last tornado went through, I was able to convince a few of my friends to buy power banks, but there are so many on the market it's hard to pick! Some have fold out solar panels, and it would be great to hear your view on which ones are best! Thanks, and stay safe! :)
I purchased one of these and had problems with it out of the box. I spent almost 2 months jumping through there hoops to diagnose prior to them telling me to return. They diagnosed it as a faulty battery. I was informed that they would send me a refurbished replacement. I questioned them about this and they informed me after 30 days they won’t give a new one. So wondering what is the point having a 5 year warranty?
I am currently researching these as I am ready to upgrade from my little Jackery; thank you for all the work you have put into this! My biggest concern with the Ecoflow units is the poor efficiency. I’m leaning toward the Pecron due to the cost difference from other comparable units. I would not buy another Jackery unit only because of the battery technology; they have just not advanced their technology but still want to charge the highest price. Thanks again Kris.
I am not happy with my Pecron, they have weird solar panel requirements, proprietary solar input connections, and seem just really clunky compared to the other brands I have. Look at Oupes 1800 and Oupes 1200, I have both to help run my home fridge, very easy, take all my Bluetti and Allpowers solar panels, great price, and my 1800 watt unit had a display problem and the company replaced it within days of me contacting and sending photos of the display gibberish. I also have several Bluetti EB3A units for low watt recharging or even for charging the larger Oupes unit which weighs about 32 pounds and is a problem for my chronic back problems, whereas taking several 10-pound EB3A units out to charge and then back in is far easier!
To all potential buyers, please avoid buying Ecoflow products. I recently cancelled my 2 orders of Ecoflow Delta 2. They are refusing to refund me. I've never received the products since they have recalled the shipment. I felt robbed :( Just a public service to all potential buyers.
I have an Ecoflow Delta Pro that I bought after using your spreadsheet. I like it, the solar panels are heavy for me to move. I'm happy that I have it and hope to get 2 more panels and the solar panel tracker thing.
Great Vid❗ I have an EcoFlow Delta 1300 and am using two Off Grid Trek 200 watt solar blankets as listed in the description. They are amazing. Plus they work in low light which wasn't mentioned. I did a video about using them in poor conditions and cable hook up. Off Grid Trek really helped me out after the freeze here in Texas. Customer service blew me away. I called twice with questions and both times Rene the owner answered the phone.
A great and honest review, certainly not nearly as "rosey" as some other reviews. I was considering this as a backup for my refrigerator, but dropped it for the EPS inconsistancies between multiple reviewers, dropping solar completely when AC is present (no dual charging), and pretty low AC efficiency when compared to other EcoFlow products. Still quite a bit of bang for the buck though and continuing the trend that the Bluetti EB3A started with a large inverter with a smaller battery. Thanks!
@@johntate5284 Thanks John, I will look into that one. I had seen it listed but wasn't sure if it was old tech or not and hadn't got around to looking at it.
I have been researching solar generators for over a year and am leaning towards the Generark (now known as Geneverse.) I am looking to the HomePower2 generator. The solar panels are all weather, it also has a 5 year warranty, their website also states that when fully charged this generator can store and hold the power for at least a year. So far this one sounds amazing and has great reviews. Have you or anyone on your channel tried this generator? Would be great to hear a personal review. Thank you for this info in today’s review, I was actually going to look into this company as I just learned of them, but with info received I’ll pass.
Your comparison spreadsheet is great but you need to add a link to your RUclips channel in it. I opened the sheet, closed RUclips then had a tough time finding the video I got it from.
Actually, it is based on your needs if it's strictly based on price then yes but when it comes to warranties fast charging and reliability then ecoflow is the way.
The first thing that brought the Delta 2 down for me was that in order to get AC power out, I have to find the inverter button on the back of the unit! It can be hidden there, but the corresponding button should also be on the front panel, because I don't want to turn the device constantly and I don't want to go around it myself. I want that when I'm not doing anything with the device, I press the button on the front panel to turn the device OFF. So then, when I want to turn on the device, I have to press the front first and then the back. This is insane! Another thing that lowers my score further is that the device has only two fan positions for AC charging. Full blast for over 900W charging and slightly lower blast for up to 900W charging power. Why didn't they make this smarter so that the fan works to provide the actual cooling demand - not with excessive power and noise! You may very well want to charge with a slower and quieter fan, but even if I choose only 200W charging power, the fan still works as much as with 900W power. Crazy again!
After seeing how ecoflow’s customer service treated RoseRedHomestead I think I will pass on any Ecoflow product because of their poor customer service and trying to bribe them to change their Amazon review. Considering the other options you have reviewed.
I'd like a unit where I can replace the battery when exhausted. I need pure sine wave but willing to do without inductive chargers and other small conveniences.
I have a 300 watt Enginstar but no panels lol. Could barely save for the Solar Generator. But am proud of myself that I was able to do that. 🙏 for panels. It's amazing how many demonstrations that you do! I know it's a job but ThsnknYou for your time. This is a great solar generator. Stay Safe God Bless.
Surprisingly, the Harbor Freight panels that I purchased for CHEAP- on sale, have done really well for me, now 2 years in. Running my shed & tools with them. Best advice on these, try them out right away & check their output. If you got a bad one, take it back right away-- they won't have a problem exchanging or returning it. I have 3 & they all love the Florida sunshine & 1 consistently puts out higher than it's rated for! 114- 119! It's rated 100. One is almost dead on 100, & 1 comes in at the mid 90's. 🍀 to you.
I can definitely understand why it would be good to have something like this. But I just cannot justify it. I have a small solar powered battery pack that will charge my phone and that's about it. if I could afford it I would be all over one of these type of generators but I just can't do it.
Just picked up one of these and their 220w solar panels for $999 on Amazon Prime day sale. Not exactly sure how I’m going to use it. Im hoping it can lessen my carbon footprint. Maybe lower my bill but I’m mostly wanting it to power necessities if the power goes out. Last time I lost power for about a full 24 hrs and it SUCKED!!!
Not saying don’t buy one but be aware if you have any issues with these you will be without for several weeks and if out of warranty they will not supply parts so you can fix your self or service manuals so be prepared to own a expensive brick in the future not something you want to rely on in an emergency situation
I am looking for an EcoFlow battery to be an energy backup for a sump pump. How should I hook it up ? Ecoflow to the outlet and then plug the sump pump into the EcoFlow ? ...
I’m looking for a solar generator that I could use in place of a gas generator strictly for power outages. This means the unit is going to sit for long periods of time without being used because I really have no need for it other than for when the power goes out in the home. I contacted EcoFlow and it seems that the delta2 is really not designed to be stored for long periods of time with a charge so it doesn’t look like it would be a good choice for emergency back up power. I looked at the information for the Jackery 1000 pro and the documentation says that you can store a charge of up to 80% for 365 days. So it seems like the Jackery 1000 pro is a better choice to be used strictly as an emergency generator for when the power goes out. Have you looked into this yourself and have come to any conclusions? Thank you so much for your help.
My Ecoflow Delta 2 unit is about two months old & currently won’t charge beyond 23%, had been planning to buy another but now I’m not so sure. Don’t think it’ll last much longer myself
@@joneslr25 supposed to be a 5 year warranty but paperwork says 2 year, I charged quite a few devices & had 1% showing for around 3 days. I’d guess it forgot where the discharged level was & had zero at around 77%, seems to be back to normal but its put me off buying their extra battery or another unit to expand storage.
Late comment: thanks for the great review. I suspect the efficiency has more to do with the actual capacity of the battery than conversion efficiency. At 1800 W, 75% efficiency means you’re dissipating 450W into the environment. That seems high. more likely it’s really only an 850 or 900 watt hour battery
Good review. It would be good to know what the "charging" kilowatt efficiency was too from dead to full (after all balancing etc.). Regarding the poor AC output efficiency, I suspect you'll find that they are being VERY conservative on the "discharged" (and/or possibly the fully charged) state voltage on these to get better life cycles. What that effectively means is they are cheating the 1024Wh capacity and trading effective capacity for cycles. No way their inverter is that inefficient from the tear downs I've seen (they are great, well designed electronics). Not a bad thing, but they should "derate" their advertised kWh, then, if they are going to use "conservative" charge/discharge levels for the batteries. I also suspect you could measure the "80% charged Wh" value from measuring with your kilowatt device, times a 80-85% charger efficiency number and get a better estimate of what they are getting for their final "utilized" capacity (since the slow charge last 20% is largely much more inefficient and used for balance charging and stuff).
I left my Ecoflow switched off in my van for about a week and it lost about 70% off the battery life from a full charge, is this right? It had and extension lead plugged into it but was all powered down, I was surprised to turn it on today and only see 25% power left after leaving it for a week
i quess problem was with your place where you let the device. temperature is a key. If it is in range from 20-30 degrees or 68,0 ° F to 86,0 ° F then all is OK. But if tempetrature was below or under, then degradation start.
Just bought one during Amazon Prime Days for $479 and free shipping. Note, there are no returns unless it is damaged as it qualifies as "hazardous material". I sure hope I like it!
Hi, I am currently building a house which is four hours away from my current home. I would like to set up a system where the basement doesn’t flood when it rains. therefore I have a sump pump I need to connect to have it run automatically, when necessary. I am hoping with the delta 2, plus some solar panels, I can make it work. Would you consider the delta 2 be ideal for my purpose? Thank You.
Hi now that I see your spreadsheet. I know I can't afford those. Thats so sad that items we will need in emergencies. Some of us can't get. I will still be watching you... have great day
I hope the Delta Max family is upgrading to Lithium Iron Phosphate. The main unit, battery (hopefully upgraded to LiFePO) and smart generator would be a great solution for the average user. I use an AC200 Max, but the ecosystem from Ecoflow is vastly superior and much more suitable for consumers.
A very nice review covering most of the features. One bit of information missing is how much power it eats plugged into the AC mains. With all outputs off and battery fully charged it uses over 15 Watts all the time. With AC output on this goes up to 17 Watts again with nothing plugged in. This makes it an expensive solution for the UPS function. A video on the use of the control schedules would be nice and they only seem to keep working if unit always powered turning the charging and setting output times.
I think the efficiency issue has more to do with their BMS programming than poor design. LiFePo4 batteries degrade faster when discharged over 80%, so to retain 3k+ cycles they took away from users ability to fully utilize unit's real capacity by playing with algorithm responsible for displaying the charge state. I'm pretty sure that if you pull out the battery modules and check their voltage there will be some 20% juice left.
Completely new to this. Just ordered a delta 2. Do you have a video on hooking up solar panels that are coming with it. Intimidated about hooking up the panels. Deer in the headlight.
I got a good laugh out of that, Kris. Still walking around the house chuckling. “Remote cabin” “Off-grid cabin” “Monitor over the Internet” Tears in my eyes laughing. 😂😂😂
@@danielyoung_ I’m just saying, …a remote, off grid cabin that doesn’t even have electricity. That’s hilarious. Now I’m going to get satellite Internet so I can monitor the thing providing power to the satellite Internet. Priceless.
I live fairly remote, 30 minutes to nearest town. In a cabin, in the woods, in Colorado. I work remote using Starlink. Everything is powered by a Delta Pro and extra battery. I regularly check on the status of the batteries from my fone when in town, as well as my cameras that make use of Starlink as well.
@@charlesmilam3062 Yep. Our hunting cabin is set up the same way. But that’s absolutely considered “on grid”. Wireless perhaps. But on grid nonetheless. Lol.
Im a DJ and ned to power my Pioneer DJ controller. Its a XDJ-XZ if that helps. I planing to bring my setup out in the park. Do anyone know how many hours i will get out of the Ecoflow Delta 2 ? I need 4-6 hours.
Hi all, So....I have a hack that I literally just thought of for people who can't afford another Delta Pro or extra battery BUT need additional power and own another ecoflow battery. I have called ecoflow and given them the idea as well and they confirmed that it will in fact work!! I then asked them why they don't tell everyone after I've told them and they said they would "escalate the idea" to their top tier and perhaps add it to their FAQs. So here's the idea: We've been told that you must have like systems in order to use them together. This is NOT actually true. If your Delta Pro is low on power (or any other ecoflow system you have) you can simply plug its charging cable (in the rear) into the front of the secondary system. In other words you're using the second system as a wall outlet of sorts. This works especially well in the evening when the sun is down and there is no more backup energy. What do you do when the sun is up?...even better...plus the second system from the rear into the front of the Delta Pro. This allows the sun to charge them BOTH regardless of the differences of their capacities or sizes!!! The only word of caution they gave me after saying what a great idea this was, was to say don't forget to lower the charging speed on the Delta Pro once it's plugged into the front of the second system. Guys this means you can use anything from a River and up to charge your Delta Pro OR any other ecoflow system. If this works for you please like my comment and say "Thanks T!!" just so I'll know at least I was able to communicate something helpful to the solar community-especially since these systems are sooooo expensive!!
My only question is this. If these don’t support AC and solar charging at the same time, then it says it drains and charges both units equally if you have them in tandem. Which means if you have solar hooked up to one and it’s charging both units evenly, then it won’t accept your solution as if the solar panel is hooked up then it doesn’t also use the AC charge. You follow me? Or am I thinking wrong?
I purchased the Delta 2 with smart battery, and it died on me with less than 100hrs on it. Trying to resolve the issue with Ecoflow right now but it's taking some time. The Delta 2 won't power on or respond to any inputs, power etc etc.. These units can't be trusted.
@@desupernoodleSame here. I've been running the Delta 2 for 8-months solid every day/night without issue in all temperatures outdoors. Also my Ecoflow bipolar solar panels are incredible year round (the best I've ever tested), plus my other Ecoflow power station has been running 24/7 for several years without a single problem.
Guys, I need some help. I can’t choose between delta 2 and max. Everything on the max seem perfect but delta 2 is a lot lighter, like 10kg lighter and I’m a woman without a car. The battery can run more cycles. I think it’s around 3500vs 800, I can’t remember the exact. And it is a lot cheaper. But the efficiency are poor and max has a much better solar input, large battery. Thx.
I got the 220 solar panel for this generator. Took me 3 days to charge it to 100% via solar and I used it to see how it charges my hybrid. Took me 3 days to charge the ECOFLOW only to charge my car up to 4 miles. (My car normally gives me anywhere from 43-53 miles of EV.)
@@betterarmed You wouldn't know unless you or someone else tried. That's why I'm sharing... It's specifically referring to a hybrid. Not for household. Which I wish he could've demonstrated in the video.
You must have had a lot of cloud or a bad angle, the math for your solar panel and this unit means it should NOT take 3 days to charge it!! Get another panel so you get closer to the max it can take, and make sure you have the right angling and decent sun days.
These are neat little portable devices. I jumped ahead and DIY'd an off-grid solution with 4Kw of panels, an 8Kw LF split phase inverter, and 20KwH of rack mount batteries. Not portable, but I don't have a cabin anywhere. Maybe a portable bug out EcoFlow in the future. Cheers
I just purchased this with 400 watt solar panel and Delta 2 extra battery mainly for fridge and or freezer. just under $3000. Hope I did well. I am not very tech savvy. a friend will help me to set it up.
Hi, thank you for the video. I have a question about AC efficiency = 74%. What it means? Delta 2 has a capacity of 1024 kwh so, if I take 74%, I have only 758 kwh available for my consummation. Is it correct? And if I decide to work in a range of charge/discharge of 80%/20% , I have to reduce this amount to 40% = 300kwh ???(I hope my assumption is false :) )
Is there a way to connect the EcoFlow Delta 2 to the home electric panel to select the circuits you want rather then running extension cords? No reviews has covered this that I could find. Thanks.
I think the reason why the AC efficiency is relatively low is that the unit supports extension batteries. Since all AC output is from the main unit, it requires a bigger inverter to deal with both main battery and extension batteries.
You should add a column that takes into account the cycle count for each battery. It seems like you are paying more for the EcoFlow, but when you compare the lifecycle of an LFP battery, it gets 5 to 8 times more usable life, so you are actually getting more bang for you buck than one that has only a 500 or 800 cycle life.
Ecoflow tends to have the lowest efficiency from what I’ve seen. I don’t know if they’re really that efficient or if they’re leaving a significant amount of capacity in the batteries for longevity and minimize warranty claims. I’m not a fan of this methodology.
I would love to see direct comparison with Bluetti AC180. I haven't seen any video about it at all. Anyone has both units and what has been your experience? Thx.
This is useful I'm still researching what I need, but I'm in SoCal and a downed tree took my power out for 60 hours so I'm looking at solar generators since I'm in a place with earthquakes and can't rely on gas or propane in this environment, but also my place is 850 Sq FT so really considering my energy needs here. I think for my the ecoflow would be generally fine since it's not likely to see heavy use, but we will see.
I have an Oupes 1800 that runs my home fridge for 24 hours and takes 400W of solar, so it does charge fairly quickly in good sun. Great price, weighs about 32 pounds. I have various units from about 6 companies, lol, I started with small ones about 3 years ago, but I sure love that I can run my fridge with the Oupes 1800 (and an Oupes 1200 for when I charge the bigger unit with solar outside), plus have smaller units for phone charging and lights, etc. Bluetti EB3A units are great for the smaller stuff, just 10 pounds, can often get them for $250 or even less, and they take 200 W of solar for quite fast charging of a unit that is only 600W.
With the 74% efficiency... Does this have any effect on the health/lifespan of a battery compared to a battery with 85% efficiency? Or is it just an indicator of the quality of the battery?
Hi Kris, great video! I just have a question for you. What cables do you use to connect your solar panels to the input jack to your Ecoflow? I have an Ecoflow Delta Pro and I bought two Renogy 400W panels. They have the common MC4 connectors that connect the panels in series. But the solar panel input cable that the Ecoflow Delta Pro came with, the cable that you plug into the actual unit itself, to the rear, wasn't working. I was told since I'm using solar panels other than the Ecoflow brand, I needed to buy an after market solar panel input cable called a GRAYBULL Solar Kit to XT60 Adapter Cable. Did you have to do the same thing?
Which solar generator would you recommend for apartment use in winter for a canadian if our grid were to go down? Say for Lights/wifi/portable heaters being the biggest thing in winter/fridge/freezer/washer type things to just look at.
Thanks for the informative video. Rare to see these detailed comparisons. If possible please compare the delta pro with zendure superbase v and the new anker powerhouse 767
OK, totally stupid question from a newbie here. how wall does the solar charging work if you live way up north like I do where we might not see the sun for a month literally. it will be cloudy for days or weeks on end up here.
@@CityPrepping Yes, please! Even in Florida there's actually more wind energy available than solar energy! We actually have a lot of cloudy & rainy days. Had 1 all sunny day in the last 2 weeks!
Great review thank you. I decided to get this over other options including Delta 2 max and other technically better options. My logic was I have 1+some solar panels for short backup emergency power and camping (including powering the ecoflow wave portable AC), and for the price I can eventually get another Delta 2 and its still less than the max, that way in a longer term emergency one can be solar charging and one can be backup power and hopefully can just keep swapping them indefinitely. :)
Just curious if one of the upcoming generators you are planning to review might be the 4Patriots 1800? I recently purchased it and plan on testing it out a bit myself next week on a camping trip. Would be curious to see how it stacks up against the others you have reviewed.
A terrible thing! Over priced, over hyped, & under powered. Sadly, I got one before I knew what I was doing, then there was death in the family, & I found out what I had - too late to return it. The return shipping will be expensive, but you will still be better off! I'm getting more power out of about $600 of parts. Picked up my panels at Harbor Freight & Northern Tools when they were on sale, inherited a 1000w inverter, bought a controller & cables from renogy. Only need to upgrade my batteries, & still won't come near price of 4P junk!
@@CityPrepping hi , I'm looking for a power pack in the £1k range, would say this one is better than the BLUETTI EB150 ? Or is there another you would recommend in that price range?
I have a small shed with 2 x 100 watt solar panels to a charge controller and 2 batteries which doesn’t seem to hold enough charge would I do better having this delta flow 2 for saving me on my electricity bill in my bungalow and or buying this delta flow plus bigger panels like 2 x 200 watt
I bought the Delta 1300, 1260 Wh battery. Just getting in to this. I am saving up and buying them as I can pay for them, so hopefully I can cashflow a decent system where I could run most of my systems in the event of a sustained power outage. Just ordered a EcoFlow 175 watt solar panel. Thank you for the info!
Have you considered testing this unit powering a RV air conditioner and having something like a Honda a generator supplementing the charge at the same time? Please tell me if I’m wrong but I found out that this set-up does not work. I’m assuming that the Delta prefers a DC charge from the EcoFlow generator. Not an AC charge from another generator. The only way I could get the Delta to charge with another generator is with no load on the Delta 2. That is inconvenient.
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Ours just arrived in the mail! Thanks for the review!
Hi! I love your videos! Have you considered doing this sort of video, but with power banks? Like the ones that are $200 or less. A lot of people can't afford the full size generators, but there are a lot of power banks that could provide people with a few days of phone charges after an emergency. After our last tornado went through, I was able to convince a few of my friends to buy power banks, but there are so many on the market it's hard to pick! Some have fold out solar panels, and it would be great to hear your view on which ones are best! Thanks, and stay safe! :)
You say that it has 3000 ish charge cycle but there website only says 800 which is just over the warranty period
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@CityPrepping The Ecoflow Delta 2 does allow you to control and monitor the power station without internet connection, simply by using Bluetooth mode.
I know you’re so tired of talking about solar generators but I learn something new each time. Maybe I’m a slow learner. 🤣
Pity about appalling customer service from both overseas PR and EU website. PayPal dispute filed
Don’t suppose the efficiency improved with firmware updates?
What's the reason the charge efficiency is not that good? Is it because of lifepo4 battery?
can you tell me if the Delta 2 can connect to the Ecoflow Wave using the "Smart DC cable"
How does this one compare to the Patriot 2000?????
These are poor quality mine broke down in two months.
Return and repair ONLY
3 weeks before return.
Buy others
“If I have to do one more solar generator review, I’ll kill myself.” -Probably not Abe Lincoln 😂
Yeah I don't think that's how he died😅
"It was on the internet so it must be true" -Abraham Lincoln.
Thank you for this review. Says us potential buyers a lot of time in sorting through all the specs and details. Keep up the good work. Thank you.
I purchased one of these and had problems with it out of the box. I spent almost 2 months jumping through there hoops to diagnose prior to them telling me to return. They diagnosed it as a faulty battery. I was informed that they would send me a refurbished replacement. I questioned them about this and they informed me after 30 days they won’t give a new one. So wondering what is the point having a 5 year warranty?
Good info. Thanks.
Please do more of these reviews and comparisons, I planning on buying a solar generator and solar panels and your reviews are very helpful.
I am currently researching these as I am ready to upgrade from my little Jackery; thank you for all the work you have put into this! My biggest concern with the Ecoflow units is the poor efficiency. I’m leaning toward the Pecron due to the cost difference from other comparable units. I would not buy another Jackery unit only because of the battery technology; they have just not advanced their technology but still want to charge the highest price. Thanks again Kris.
They are poor quality, mine broke in two months.
You have to return it no refund or exchange. Buyers beware.
@@stephenb5560 who? Ecoflow or Pecron?
@@online_now6834 Ecoflow.
I bought direct from the website.
The little lower efficiency of the battery type is offset by the lifespan and higher safety of the battery chemistry.
I am not happy with my Pecron, they have weird solar panel requirements, proprietary solar input connections, and seem just really clunky compared to the other brands I have. Look at Oupes 1800 and Oupes 1200, I have both to help run my home fridge, very easy, take all my Bluetti and Allpowers solar panels, great price, and my 1800 watt unit had a display problem and the company replaced it within days of me contacting and sending photos of the display gibberish.
I also have several Bluetti EB3A units for low watt recharging or even for charging the larger Oupes unit which weighs about 32 pounds and is a problem for my chronic back problems, whereas taking several 10-pound EB3A units out to charge and then back in is far easier!
To all potential buyers, please avoid buying Ecoflow products. I recently cancelled my 2 orders of Ecoflow Delta 2. They are refusing to refund me. I've never received the products since they have recalled the shipment.
I felt robbed :( Just a public service to all potential buyers.
I have an Ecoflow Delta Pro that I bought after using your spreadsheet. I like it, the solar panels are heavy for me to move. I'm happy that I have it and hope to get 2 more panels and the solar panel tracker thing.
Prefer the Deltaflow products and company better than Bluetti because of their customer service. Anything goes wrong you actually speak to someone.
Great Vid❗ I have an EcoFlow Delta 1300 and am using two Off Grid Trek 200 watt solar blankets as listed in the description. They are amazing. Plus they work in low light which wasn't mentioned. I did a video about using them in poor conditions and cable hook up. Off Grid Trek really helped me out after the freeze here in Texas. Customer service blew me away. I called twice with questions and both times Rene the owner answered the phone.
A great and honest review, certainly not nearly as "rosey" as some other reviews. I was considering this as a backup for my refrigerator, but dropped it for the EPS inconsistancies between multiple reviewers, dropping solar completely when AC is present (no dual charging), and pretty low AC efficiency when compared to other EcoFlow products. Still quite a bit of bang for the buck though and continuing the trend that the Bluetti EB3A started with a large inverter with a smaller battery. Thanks!
So what would you recommend?
For $100 more ($1399 on sale now) you can get the Bluetti AC200P, everything except for UPS function, 2000 watt battery and inverter
@@johntate5284 Thanks John, I will look into that one. I had seen it listed but wasn't sure if it was old tech or not and hadn't got around to looking at it.
@@The_Tool_Scoop Don't expect anyone to answer the phone at bluetti if you need assistance.😖
@@fckjb284 It sounds like you're speaking from exoerience there. Thanks for the warning.
I have been researching solar generators for over a year and am leaning towards the Generark (now known as Geneverse.) I am looking to the HomePower2 generator. The solar panels are all weather, it also has a 5 year warranty, their website also states that when fully charged this generator can store and hold the power for at least a year. So far this one sounds amazing and has great reviews. Have you or anyone on your channel tried this generator? Would be great to hear a personal review. Thank you for this info in today’s review, I was actually going to look into this company as I just learned of them, but with info received I’ll pass.
The 3000 charge cycles takes the cake. It will certainly last for more than 10 years.
i have 2 eco flos both had major issues and i got zero support from them. no phone and they don't answer emails. buyer beware
Yikes! I just bought two this weekend. Thanks for the info.
Your comparison spreadsheet is great but you need to add a link to your RUclips channel in it. I opened the sheet, closed RUclips then had a tough time finding the video I got it from.
As expensive it is, it doesn't last long
Why doesn't ecoflow customer support offer support? They promised a call back but forgot me.
It's sad to hear your tired of doing what your doing. Maybe it's time for a Life Change!
Based on your data...seems pecron e2000lfp is solid option for the price, solar input, and efficiency.
yup
Actually, it is based on your needs if it's strictly based on price then yes but when it comes to warranties fast charging and reliability then ecoflow is the way.
The first thing that brought the Delta 2 down for me was that in order to get AC power out, I have to find the inverter button on the back of the unit! It can be hidden there, but the corresponding button should also be on the front panel, because I don't want to turn the device constantly and I don't want to go around it myself. I want that when I'm not doing anything with the device, I press the button on the front panel to turn the device OFF. So then, when I want to turn on the device, I have to press the front first and then the back. This is insane!
Another thing that lowers my score further is that the device has only two fan positions for AC charging. Full blast for over 900W charging and slightly lower blast for up to 900W charging power. Why didn't they make this smarter so that the fan works to provide the actual cooling demand - not with excessive power and noise! You may very well want to charge with a slower and quieter fan, but even if I choose only 200W charging power, the fan still works as much as with 900W power. Crazy again!
After seeing how ecoflow’s customer service treated RoseRedHomestead I think I will pass on any Ecoflow product because of their poor customer service and trying to bribe them to change their Amazon review. Considering the other options you have reviewed.
I'd like a unit where I can replace the battery when exhausted. I need pure sine wave but willing to do without inductive chargers and other small conveniences.
I have a 300 watt Enginstar but no panels lol. Could barely save for the Solar Generator. But am proud of myself that I was able to do that.
🙏 for panels.
It's amazing how many demonstrations that you do! I know it's a job but ThsnknYou for your time. This is a great solar generator.
Stay Safe God Bless.
Surprisingly, the Harbor Freight panels that I purchased for CHEAP- on sale, have done really well for me, now 2 years in. Running my shed & tools with them. Best advice on these, try them out right away & check their output. If you got a bad one, take it back right away-- they won't have a problem exchanging or returning it. I have 3 & they all love the Florida sunshine & 1 consistently puts out higher than it's rated for! 114- 119! It's rated 100. One is almost dead on 100, & 1 comes in at the mid 90's. 🍀 to you.
I can definitely understand why it would be good to have something like this. But I just cannot justify it. I have a small solar powered battery pack that will charge my phone and that's about it. if I could afford it I would be all over one of these type of generators but I just can't do it.
Just picked up one of these and their 220w solar panels for $999 on Amazon Prime day sale. Not exactly sure how I’m going to use it. Im hoping it can lessen my carbon footprint. Maybe lower my bill but I’m mostly wanting it to power necessities if the power goes out. Last time I lost power for about a full 24 hrs and it SUCKED!!!
Not saying don’t buy one but be aware if you have any issues with these you will be without for several weeks and if out of warranty they will not supply parts so you can fix your self or service manuals so be prepared to own a expensive brick in the future not something you want to rely on in an emergency situation
I just bought one from HSN who was selling them with solar panels and power stripe kit for only $651.74. 😊
It'll power my 6qt insta pot, therefore
I WILL SURVIVE!
🍳☕🤠😁👍
I am looking for an EcoFlow battery to be an energy backup for a sump pump.
How should I hook it up ? Ecoflow to the outlet and then plug the sump pump into the EcoFlow ? ...
Love the opening quote! LOL Thanks for all the details you have given us on a wide variety of the solar generators. Truely appreciate it.
caught me off guard with that quote
As always great video Kris I very much appreciate the time you put into these videos.
Thanks for all you do for the community.
I’m looking for a solar generator that I could use in place of a gas generator strictly for power outages. This means the unit is going to sit for long periods of time without being used because I really have no need for it other than for when the power goes out in the home. I contacted EcoFlow and it seems that the delta2 is really not designed to be stored for long periods of time with a charge so it doesn’t look like it would be a good choice for emergency back up power. I looked at the information for the Jackery 1000 pro and the documentation says that you can store a charge of up to 80% for 365 days. So it seems like the Jackery 1000 pro is a better choice to be used strictly as an emergency generator for when the power goes out. Have you looked into this yourself and have come to any conclusions? Thank you so much for your help.
My Ecoflow Delta 2 unit is about two months old & currently won’t charge beyond 23%, had been planning to buy another but now I’m not so sure. Don’t think it’ll last much longer myself
Isn't it still under warranty???
@@joneslr25 supposed to be a 5 year warranty but paperwork says 2 year, I charged quite a few devices & had 1% showing for around 3 days. I’d guess it forgot where the discharged level was & had zero at around 77%, seems to be back to normal but its put me off buying their extra battery or another unit to expand storage.
Late comment: thanks for the great review. I suspect the efficiency has more to do with the actual capacity of the battery than conversion efficiency. At 1800 W, 75% efficiency means you’re dissipating 450W into the environment. That seems high. more likely it’s really only an 850 or 900 watt hour battery
Curious, have you reached out to Ecoflow regarding the Pure Sine Wave issue in you test. The manual for the Delta 2 states "Pure Sine Wave".
Thank you for the review!!
My pleasure!
Good review. It would be good to know what the "charging" kilowatt efficiency was too from dead to full (after all balancing etc.). Regarding the poor AC output efficiency, I suspect you'll find that they are being VERY conservative on the "discharged" (and/or possibly the fully charged) state voltage on these to get better life cycles. What that effectively means is they are cheating the 1024Wh capacity and trading effective capacity for cycles. No way their inverter is that inefficient from the tear downs I've seen (they are great, well designed electronics). Not a bad thing, but they should "derate" their advertised kWh, then, if they are going to use "conservative" charge/discharge levels for the batteries. I also suspect you could measure the "80% charged Wh" value from measuring with your kilowatt device, times a 80-85% charger efficiency number and get a better estimate of what they are getting for their final "utilized" capacity (since the slow charge last 20% is largely much more inefficient and used for balance charging and stuff).
I left my Ecoflow switched off in my van for about a week and it lost about 70% off the battery life from a full charge, is this right? It had and extension lead plugged into it but was all powered down, I was surprised to turn it on today and only see 25% power left after leaving it for a week
i quess problem was with your place where you let the device. temperature is a key. If it is in range from 20-30 degrees or 68,0 ° F to 86,0 ° F then all is OK. But if tempetrature was below or under, then degradation start.
@@ivanbenkocky3290 ok thanks, I think leaving the extension lead plugged in didn’t help even though it wasn’t powering anything. It been ok since
Just bought one during Amazon Prime Days for $479 and free shipping. Note, there are no returns unless it is damaged as it qualifies as "hazardous material". I sure hope I like it!
Hi, I am currently building a house which is four hours away from my current home. I would like to set up a system where the basement doesn’t flood when it rains. therefore I have a sump pump I need to connect to have it run automatically, when necessary. I am hoping with the delta 2, plus some solar panels, I can make it work. Would you consider the delta 2 be ideal for my purpose?
Thank You.
Hi now that I see your spreadsheet. I know I can't afford those. Thats so sad that items we will need in emergencies. Some of us can't get. I will still be watching you... have great day
I hope the Delta Max family is upgrading to Lithium Iron Phosphate. The main unit, battery (hopefully upgraded to LiFePO) and smart generator would be a great solution for the average user. I use an AC200 Max, but the ecosystem from Ecoflow is vastly superior and much more suitable for consumers.
OMG. I’m not getting this thing. NEVER SAW SUCH AN HONEST REVIEW.
A very nice review covering most of the features.
One bit of information missing is how much power it eats plugged into the AC mains. With all outputs off and battery fully charged it uses over 15 Watts all the time. With AC output on this goes up to 17 Watts again with nothing plugged in. This makes it an expensive solution for the UPS function.
A video on the use of the control schedules would be nice and they only seem to keep working if unit always powered turning the charging and setting output times.
I have 2 days to decide between the delta 2 and blueti ac 180 both on sale for the same price for 2 more days. Both have virtually the same spec
I think the efficiency issue has more to do with their BMS programming than poor design. LiFePo4 batteries degrade faster when discharged over 80%, so to retain 3k+ cycles they took away from users ability to fully utilize unit's real capacity by playing with algorithm responsible for displaying the charge state. I'm pretty sure that if you pull out the battery modules and check their voltage there will be some 20% juice left.
Completely new to this. Just ordered a delta 2. Do you have a video on hooking up solar panels that are coming with it. Intimidated about hooking up the panels. Deer in the headlight.
Nice job Kris! Really like the expansion capabilities so you can buy in and grow your capacity as your income and needs dictate
I got a good laugh out of that, Kris. Still walking around the house chuckling.
“Remote cabin”
“Off-grid cabin”
“Monitor over the Internet”
Tears in my eyes laughing. 😂😂😂
Definitely funny, but you could certainly control it over a local network, regardless of internet
@@danielyoung_ I’m just saying, …a remote, off grid cabin that doesn’t even have electricity. That’s hilarious. Now I’m going to get satellite Internet so I can monitor the thing providing power to the satellite Internet. Priceless.
I live fairly remote, 30 minutes to nearest town. In a cabin, in the woods, in Colorado. I work remote using Starlink. Everything is powered by a Delta Pro and extra battery. I regularly check on the status of the batteries from my fone when in town, as well as my cameras that make use of Starlink as well.
@@charlesmilam3062 Yep. Our hunting cabin is set up the same way. But that’s absolutely considered “on grid”. Wireless perhaps. But on grid nonetheless. Lol.
Im a DJ and ned to power my Pioneer DJ controller. Its a XDJ-XZ if that helps. I planing to bring my setup out in the park. Do anyone know how many hours i will get out of the Ecoflow Delta 2 ? I need 4-6 hours.
Hi all,
So....I have a hack that I literally just thought of for people who can't afford another Delta Pro or extra battery BUT need additional power and own another ecoflow battery. I have called ecoflow and given them the idea as well and they confirmed that it will in fact work!! I then asked them why they don't tell everyone after I've told them and they said they would "escalate the idea" to their top tier and perhaps add it to their FAQs. So here's the idea: We've been told that you must have like systems in order to use them together. This is NOT actually true. If your Delta Pro is low on power (or any other ecoflow system you have) you can simply plug its charging cable (in the rear) into the front of the secondary system. In other words you're using the second system as a wall outlet of sorts. This works especially well in the evening when the sun is down and there is no more backup energy. What do you do when the sun is up?...even better...plus the second system from the rear into the front of the Delta Pro. This allows the sun to charge them BOTH regardless of the differences of their capacities or sizes!!! The only word of caution they gave me after saying what a great idea this was, was to say don't forget to lower the charging speed on the Delta Pro once it's plugged into the front of the second system. Guys this means you can use anything from a River and up to charge your Delta Pro OR any other ecoflow system. If this works for you please like my comment and say "Thanks T!!" just so I'll know at least I was able to communicate something helpful to the solar community-especially since these systems are sooooo expensive!!
I thought most people would have thought of this already, but not many of us can afford more than 1, let alone a Pro itself.
My only question is this. If these don’t support AC and solar charging at the same time, then it says it drains and charges both units equally if you have them in tandem.
Which means if you have solar hooked up to one and it’s charging both units evenly, then it won’t accept your solution as if the solar panel is hooked up then it doesn’t also use the AC charge.
You follow me? Or am I thinking wrong?
I purchased the Delta 2 with smart battery, and it died on me with less than 100hrs on it. Trying to resolve the issue with Ecoflow right now but it's taking some time. The Delta 2 won't power on or respond to any inputs, power etc etc.. These units can't be trusted.
I've had mine running non-stop for 4 months and have had no issues.
@@desupernoodleSame here. I've been running the Delta 2 for 8-months solid every day/night without issue in all temperatures outdoors. Also my Ecoflow bipolar solar panels are incredible year round (the best I've ever tested), plus my other Ecoflow power station has been running 24/7 for several years without a single problem.
Guys, I need some help. I can’t choose between delta 2 and max. Everything on the max seem perfect but delta 2 is a lot lighter, like 10kg lighter and I’m a woman without a car. The battery can run more cycles. I think it’s around 3500vs 800, I can’t remember the exact. And it is a lot cheaper. But the efficiency are poor and max has a much better solar input, large battery. Thx.
I got the 220 solar panel for this generator. Took me 3 days to charge it to 100% via solar and I used it to see how it charges my hybrid. Took me 3 days to charge the ECOFLOW only to charge my car up to 4 miles. (My car normally gives me anywhere from 43-53 miles of EV.)
Yikes, I definitely would not of bought a unit of this size if that’s the job I wanted it to do.
@@betterarmed You wouldn't know unless you or someone else tried. That's why I'm sharing... It's specifically referring to a hybrid. Not for household. Which I wish he could've demonstrated in the video.
You must have had a lot of cloud or a bad angle, the math for your solar panel and this unit means it should NOT take 3 days to charge it!!
Get another panel so you get closer to the max it can take, and make sure you have the right angling and decent sun days.
3 days with their 220w panel? Where do you live?
220w is theoretical ofc, but 160w should definitely be achievable of that and with 160w it shouldn't take 3 days
Hi from Syracuse NY brother and everyone else and thank you for sharing everything
These are down to $699 at walmart. I need it to use when I camp without electricity. Do u recommend that?
These are neat little portable devices. I jumped ahead and DIY'd an off-grid solution with 4Kw of panels, an 8Kw LF split phase inverter, and 20KwH of rack mount batteries. Not portable, but I don't have a cabin anywhere. Maybe a portable bug out EcoFlow in the future. Cheers
in my experience with this company I wouldn't recommend them to my worst enemy
Have you had a bad experience with them?
I just purchased this with 400 watt solar panel and Delta 2 extra battery mainly for fridge and or freezer. just under $3000. Hope I did well. I am not very tech savvy. a friend will help me to set it up.
Hi, thank you for the video. I have a question about AC efficiency = 74%. What it means? Delta 2 has a capacity of 1024 kwh so, if I take 74%, I have only 758 kwh available for my consummation.
Is it correct? And if I decide to work in a range of charge/discharge of 80%/20% , I have to reduce this amount to 40% = 300kwh ???(I hope my assumption is false :) )
Is there a way to connect the EcoFlow Delta 2 to the home electric panel to select the circuits you want rather then running extension cords? No reviews has covered this that I could find. Thanks.
I think the reason why the AC efficiency is relatively low is that the unit supports extension batteries. Since all AC output is from the main unit, it requires a bigger inverter to deal with both main battery and extension batteries.
I suggest the poor efficiency is because the battery capacity isn't what Ecoflow say it is
How does storing them being fully charged damage them? What is the science behind that? Does anyone know?
What do you think of the Hysolis Apollo? They CLAIM: "The best Solar Generator on the market, period."
Love the “probably Abraham Lincoln” quote! 😂😂😂😂❤😂😂😂😂
Actually the anger 3800 offers 10 year warranty
Due to the efficiency issue would you recommend the pecron or the bluettie over this?
Last weeks video really helped me clearly understand what I need to look for
That’s awesome!
It definitely is better than most of the other power stations, Nothing charges faster.
Thanks for bringing more great content to the community
You should add a column that takes into account the cycle count for each battery. It seems like you are paying more for the EcoFlow, but when you compare the lifecycle of an LFP battery, it gets 5 to 8 times more usable life, so you are actually getting more bang for you buck than one that has only a 500 or 800 cycle life.
The delta 2 has a LPF battery
@@michaelbalabanoff9441 Yes. That's what I said.
@@jacobweinfeld3855 my bad I misread your comment
Ecoflow tends to have the lowest efficiency from what I’ve seen. I don’t know if they’re really that efficient or if they’re leaving a significant amount of capacity in the batteries for longevity and minimize warranty claims. I’m not a fan of this methodology.
Will this run a 9000 btu mini split??
Can you plug this 24/7?
Ok what is the internet is DOWN .
I would love to see direct comparison with Bluetti AC180. I haven't seen any video about it at all. Anyone has both units and what has been your experience? Thx.
This is useful I'm still researching what I need, but I'm in SoCal and a downed tree took my power out for 60 hours so I'm looking at solar generators since I'm in a place with earthquakes and can't rely on gas or propane in this environment, but also my place is 850 Sq FT so really considering my energy needs here. I think for my the ecoflow would be generally fine since it's not likely to see heavy use, but we will see.
I have an Oupes 1800 that runs my home fridge for 24 hours and takes 400W of solar, so it does charge fairly quickly in good sun. Great price, weighs about 32 pounds. I have various units from about 6 companies, lol, I started with small ones about 3 years ago, but I sure love that I can run my fridge with the Oupes 1800 (and an Oupes 1200 for when I charge the bigger unit with solar outside), plus have smaller units for phone charging and lights, etc. Bluetti EB3A units are great for the smaller stuff, just 10 pounds, can often get them for $250 or even less, and they take 200 W of solar for quite fast charging of a unit that is only 600W.
I love the intro 😂
With the 74% efficiency... Does this have any effect on the health/lifespan of a battery compared to a battery with 85% efficiency? Or is it just an indicator of the quality of the battery?
Hi Kris, great video! I just have a question for you. What cables do you use to connect your solar panels to the input jack to your Ecoflow? I have an Ecoflow Delta Pro and I bought two Renogy 400W panels. They have the common MC4 connectors that connect the panels in series. But the solar panel input cable that the Ecoflow Delta Pro came with, the cable that you plug into the actual unit itself, to the rear, wasn't working. I was told since I'm using solar panels other than the Ecoflow brand, I needed to buy an after market solar panel input cable called a GRAYBULL Solar Kit to XT60 Adapter Cable. Did you have to do the same thing?
Which solar generator would you recommend for apartment use in winter for a canadian if our grid were to go down? Say for Lights/wifi/portable heaters being the biggest thing in winter/fridge/freezer/washer type things to just look at.
Thanks for the informative video. Rare to see these detailed comparisons. If possible please compare the delta pro with zendure superbase v and the new anker powerhouse 767
OK, totally stupid question from a newbie here. how wall does the solar charging work if you live way up north like I do where we might not see the sun for a month literally. it will be cloudy for days or weeks on end up here.
yeh, that's a challenge. if solar doesn't work for you, you might want to look at wind turbines. I plan on doing a video on that in the future.
@@CityPrepping Yes, please! Even in Florida there's actually more wind energy available than solar energy! We actually have a lot of cloudy & rainy days. Had 1 all sunny day in the last 2 weeks!
I wonder, can you use your devices and charging the Delta at the same time?
Yes you can I ran both my Ac200max & ecoflow multiple times.
My InergyFlex is arriving today after a 3-month wait. Woo- hoo!
Great review thank you. I decided to get this over other options including Delta 2 max and other technically better options. My logic was I have 1+some solar panels for short backup emergency power and camping (including powering the ecoflow wave portable AC), and for the price I can eventually get another Delta 2 and its still less than the max, that way in a longer term emergency one can be solar charging and one can be backup power and hopefully can just keep swapping them indefinitely. :)
Just curious if one of the upcoming generators you are planning to review might be the 4Patriots 1800? I recently purchased it and plan on testing it out a bit myself next week on a camping trip. Would be curious to see how it stacks up against the others you have reviewed.
Return it you can. It’s hands down the biggest piece of junk on the market.
Yea man that thing is trash, unfortunately so is the company....
A terrible thing! Over priced, over hyped, & under powered. Sadly, I got one before I knew what I was doing, then there was death in the family, & I found out what I had - too late to return it. The return shipping will be expensive, but you will still be better off!
I'm getting more power out of about $600 of parts. Picked up my panels at Harbor Freight & Northern Tools when they were on sale, inherited a 1000w inverter, bought a controller & cables from renogy. Only need to upgrade my batteries, & still won't come near price of 4P junk!
@@CityPrepping hi , I'm looking for a power pack in the £1k range, would say this one is better than the BLUETTI EB150 ? Or is there another you would recommend in that price range?
For me, the peak and constant output is the most important.
Other reviews show over 80% capacity. The PS has been available for $420-430 recently. 😊
I have a small shed with 2 x 100 watt solar panels to a charge controller and 2 batteries which doesn’t seem to hold enough charge would I do better having this delta flow 2 for saving me on my electricity bill in my bungalow and or buying this delta flow plus bigger panels like 2 x 200 watt
I bought the Delta 1300, 1260 Wh battery. Just getting in to this. I am saving up and buying them as I can pay for them, so hopefully I can cashflow a decent system where I could run most of my systems in the event of a sustained power outage. Just ordered a EcoFlow 175 watt solar panel. Thank you for the info!
Have you considered testing this unit powering a RV air conditioner and having something like a Honda a generator supplementing the charge at the same time? Please tell me if I’m wrong but I found out that this set-up does not work. I’m assuming that the Delta prefers a DC charge from the EcoFlow generator. Not an AC charge from another generator. The only way I could get the Delta to charge with another generator is with no load on the Delta 2. That is inconvenient.