@@realdragon Honestly PLEASE keep this bug purely for Demo Crab. This is the least harmful bug because I still decide now and then to do that in spawn and have people go "WTF is wrong with this demoman LMAO" I'm pretty sure Spy Crab might also have a similar case? But that's just a guess.
Its a hard thing to just 'turn off' cause then you have to decide when to turn it off for every class, which was an oversight but doesn't hurt gameplay whatsoever
3:12 I kind of love how the robot engie's run looks. It's perfectly goofy enough that it somehow works, he just looks very serious about getting to wherever he's going. Maybe lowering the left arm a tiny bit, but otherwise I love the puffed-up attitude it gives him, very funny.
3:00 I've always thought this was intentional and the sniper was understandably struggling to pull out a foot long blade from his pocket It actually looks very convincing in-game while the sniper is moving around.
3:40 seeing the proper animation for demo's hand here is honestly so surreal, after seeing it broken for so many years my mind just saw it as normal. Now its blowing my mind like how we found out that the skeletons weren't supposed to have low framerates
3:03 OH SO THAT'S WHY i always see snipers pulling out their melees like that and i just assumed it was an aesthetic choice like he's having a hard time trying to pull out his knife from his right pocket to hit the enemy
he's like a fuckin octopus. each limb has a different brain and the head gives suggestions that the limbs typically follow. the hand is a dipshit however.
but canonically the robot engineer is so complex he's almost identical to the real engineer. you can actually see that all his animations are the same as the normal engineers
Some of these issues have such simple solutions that I almost believe that Valve intentionally keeps them because they just add something to the game's unique, goofy charm. People love stuff like spycrab, weird demo arm, floppy scout legs.
Yep. I think if Valve were to patch out the Spycrab it would go over about as well as Bethesda removing the basket-on-head glitch or the Skyrim space program glitch from TESV, where everyone would beg Valve to put it back
@@gl1tchygreml1n I don't think Valve would ever patch the Spycrab. In fact, they even made an alternative taunt where the Spy does a Spy crab animation when you taunt with the disguise kit equipped. Usually he will do his cigarette toss taunt, but there's a small chance he'll do a little Spy Crab animation, it's quite funny XD
Inverse kinematics are frequently used for walking animations as well, because making the feet hit the ground without passing through it is quite difficult when controlling from the hip.
@TheGreenTaco999 that makes sense. If they're on a bad team and they know they're going to lose then they don't need to heal anyone and thus glitch can never happen
i had no idea that robo engineer’s running animation was broken. back in the day i used to play on a server where you could change your character into a robot and i always assumed it was supposed to look goofy like he was holding his belt up while he runs
I gotta love TF2 for how many mysterious bugs it has, they don't impact gameplay much but are pretty darn strange. From random hats appearing out of people or map's origin to other classes having Pyro's Hot Hand arm animation for some reason. Most of my screenshots are either funny things or these random oddities that you can see every now and then.
I always thought that robot Engi's run animation was just him holding an invisible toolbox considering he can just build at anytime with no consequences, but I thought wrong
3:10 I remember when STAR_ made a video solely about this bug, back in the day. Good times. TF2: Spooky Demo Arms, in case you can't find the video. STAR_ deleted it on his channel for whatever reason.
I've found a similar issue with certain taunts with the medi gun in play, such as when starting a flip. Very interesting to understand why this happens!
After how many bugs this guy got and got a fix for it I still can't believe he isn't working with the janitor and the potted plant at valve Like sure this is a relatively simple one but he got a fix for so many bugs in other vids it's insane
speaking of broken limbs, don't forget that they straight up forgot to give medic's right arm an elbow joint on his ragdoll, scout and soldier are the only ones with necks, and sniper's ragdoll has knee joints that bend 90+ degrees to the right rather than back. for some reason soldier is almost always guaranteed to do the family guy "arm behind back" death pose, otherwise his elbow is severely twisted.
Personally if the demo, and engie robot were "fixed", i'd be pissed. The engie robot looks like a gunslinger when he does that, and demo's are is just too funny
Another animation that's broken is the Robo-Demoman's run cycle while the Stickybomb Launcher is equipped. While running with a Sticky Launcher held in hand, the entire RoboDemo's upper-body twists and contorts 180 degrees, facing behind him as he runs.
honestly make the robo engi's animation a feature. it looks almost perfectly postioned to be carrying a toolbox in that hand while he runs to his destination
On “Trade Plaza Gamers UN”, there’s an unreachable control point, so both terms always lose at the end of every “round”. There’s also a pool in the middle of the map. So whenever the round would end, somebody would always shout “POOL TIME!” and everyone would make a mad dash for the pool.
To be honest the robot Engineer animation looks just fine to me. The IK makes the animation feel that much more robotic and unnatural, which helps sell the fact that it's a robot knockoff.
I seriously thought that the glitch with sniper where he reloads and switches to kukri was intentional, him rolling up his sleeve while he had his kukri out.
I think this comes more specifically from the constraint between the medics hand and gun not being removed during the loss animation, his hand tries its best to snap to where the medigun’s handle is but it can’t reach it. So it stretches to max length and the hand is angled at the angle it needs to grab the handle.
Hai shounic. There is something else I would love for you to investigate. When using the engineers eureka, if you pick up metal from a dispenser you'll pick up an unexpected amount.
![[SFM/TF2] Dangerously Yours](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/QGN1goZNzUI/mqdefault.jpg)
Haha, i never new that the Robo-engie's animation was broken, i always thought he just had a cartoon-like walk.
Yeah I thought that the broken animators of the robot engineer were normal. It's kinda cool that a glitch animation is still fitting
he's fixin' to sort you out see
Same. I figured that Gray Mann couldn't code all of Engineer's brilliance into a carbon copy of animation, so the arm was a glitchy result.
This is just like the skeletons
Me too. He swings his wrench in a very stiff, robotic way so the broken walk animation looked completely normal to me.
Welcome to another episode of "Fixing TF2's bugs by turning ONE thing off."
You don't understand bro the cows that crash the game are ESSENTIAL
But then no democrab
@@realdragon Honestly PLEASE keep this bug purely for Demo Crab. This is the least harmful bug because I still decide now and then to do that in spawn and have people go "WTF is wrong with this demoman LMAO"
I'm pretty sure Spy Crab might also have a similar case? But that's just a guess.
If it only gets turned off during Humiliation, we can fix medic while keeping drmocrab
Its a hard thing to just 'turn off' cause then you have to decide when to turn it off for every class, which was an oversight but doesn't hurt gameplay whatsoever
I love that you don't even show robo engy's fixed animation. He runs perfectly as he is.
Yeah, it actually looks pretty good
he looks like mario tbh
i always assumed it was supposed to look like this, it's ON SPOT
I always thought he was just holding up his “pants”
"Somethings can't be edited if its iconic and perfect."
3:12 I kind of love how the robot engie's run looks. It's perfectly goofy enough that it somehow works, he just looks very serious about getting to wherever he's going. Maybe lowering the left arm a tiny bit, but otherwise I love the puffed-up attitude it gives him, very funny.
3:00 I've always thought this was intentional and the sniper was understandably struggling to pull out a foot long blade from his pocket
It actually looks very convincing in-game while the sniper is moving around.
yeah totally 100%
Not really :\/
same, i though that was always the 'preparing to pull out' segment of the animation
nope its just broken
@@zumbie8049yes really
To me it always looked like he was rolling up his sleeve, as if to get ready for a fight
Seeing demo crouch walk with a melee out and the arm not broken looks so wrong at this point
I feel the same way, if they fixed that bug I would be confused every time I saw the proper animation
I didn't even know "demo crouch walk" existed. How do I do it?
@@astroboy512 use an all-class melee weapon with demoman, hold it out and crouch walk.
@@NotPofkp It's that easy?
@@astroboy512 from what i gathered from the video i believe so
1:19 my boy got a little too excited about the solution
😂
💀💀💀💀💀
Was just about to comment this lol
Lmao
Nah
3:40 seeing the proper animation for demo's hand here is honestly so surreal, after seeing it broken for so many years my mind just saw it as normal.
Now its blowing my mind like how we found out that the skeletons weren't supposed to have low framerates
3:03 OH SO THAT'S WHY
i always see snipers pulling out their melees like that and i just assumed it was an aesthetic choice like he's having a hard time trying to pull out his knife from his right pocket to hit the enemy
1:19 i love how pyro just starts to agressively stroke himself
Just sharpening the axe
Just wiggling the worm
About to airblast
@@familyfriendusenarme8221ah hell nah
You could argue that Robo Engie's left arm hanging weirdly behind him like that is just another way to make his animations more "Robotic".
he's like a fuckin octopus. each limb has a different brain and the head gives suggestions that the limbs typically follow. the hand is a dipshit however.
Until today, I honestly though it was intentional
I think it actually looks better like that than it would normal
It's kinda funny that that incorrectly handled inverse kinematics could also be a in-universe explanation for this, given it's a robot.
but canonically the robot engineer is so complex he's almost identical to the real engineer. you can actually see that all his animations are the same as the normal engineers
Some of these issues have such simple solutions that I almost believe that Valve intentionally keeps them because they just add something to the game's unique, goofy charm. People love stuff like spycrab, weird demo arm, floppy scout legs.
It's always funi to threaten people as demo while doing democrab (≧▽≦)
Yep. I think if Valve were to patch out the Spycrab it would go over about as well as Bethesda removing the basket-on-head glitch or the Skyrim space program glitch from TESV, where everyone would beg Valve to put it back
@@gl1tchygreml1n
I don't think Valve would ever patch the Spycrab.
In fact, they even made an alternative taunt where the Spy does a Spy crab animation when you taunt with the disguise kit equipped.
Usually he will do his cigarette toss taunt, but there's a small chance he'll do a little Spy Crab animation, it's quite funny XD
This is not even a code issue. Its un the parameters of the model animations its very easy to fix
@@rickydo6572 tf2 casino be like
Inverse kinematics are frequently used for walking animations as well, because making the feet hit the ground without passing through it is quite difficult when controlling from the hip.
and placing legs correctly on stairs too
TF2 doesn't however, and just has a massive cube for player collision that manages to prevent clipping.
can we just appreciate how he always gets gaben to say something in the end? they must be really good friends
Then why won’t he ask Gaben to update TF2 😭
@@werelexwashere"Uh. No."
I am such a good medic i've never lost to see this happen
if you're a good medic then you know how useless you are on the bad team
@@TheGreenTaco999 you gotta get the medic frags
Either you're the best battle medic in the world or you're so lucky that you never get bad teammates
@TheGreenTaco999 that makes sense. If they're on a bad team and they know they're going to lose then they don't need to heal anyone and thus glitch can never happen
@@apotatoman4862 "the healing isnt as rewarding as ze hurting. "
2:49 why Medic looking like he's a grade schooler trying way too hard to raise his hand so the teacher will call on him? Haha
Cause the teacher didn't call on him for over 20 years since he was in elementary school
Pffftt I can't unsee that
Thank you, I've been asking this question for years
Your arm broke, that's what happened. It's that shrimple, not so clamplicated
CLAMPlicated)))
i sea no prawnblem with that logic
Why 'd you have to go and make things so clamplicated?
These puns are such a CLAMity.
noo my armmm -random ass medic main
Medic takes it out on himself through brutal self harm whenever he loses
He doesn't have the healthiest coping mannerisms
Finally; STAR_'s spooky demo arm is explained after all these years
STAR say my name
STAR say my name
STAR say my name
to be honest, the mecha engineers running animation looks kinda fitting.
also your videos are so good, and you explain complex stuff so well
1:19 after NNN
Oh my gawd man 💀💀💀
proof that he's male
Guys my mom is watching
oh dude i love nine ninch nails dude
I love when my arm snaps in half and causes multiple rips in both space and time after losing
you lose so hard you lose two hand strangling privileges.
1:19 was sus
finna jerk it
comedic genius
🤨🤨🤨
1:19 bro let his intrusive thoughts get over him
Robo engie animation looks like he should hold a building case in his left arm
Shounic is a master of answering questions I didn't ask, but in so doing, making me realise I desperately want to know the answer.
did blud forget to take off his suit??????
1:19
*IT'S HIS SKIN*
shounic wtf xD
3:15 the engi run looks kinda good lol
i thought it was intentional ngl
03:05 blud reloaded his bat 💀💀
that's one hell of a bat
How can something look so right yet so wrong at the same time?
i had no idea that robo engineer’s running animation was broken. back in the day i used to play on a server where you could change your character into a robot and i always assumed it was supposed to look goofy like he was holding his belt up while he runs
I gotta love TF2 for how many mysterious bugs it has, they don't impact gameplay much but are pretty darn strange. From random hats appearing out of people or map's origin to other classes having Pyro's Hot Hand arm animation for some reason. Most of my screenshots are either funny things or these random oddities that you can see every now and then.
I guess medic's arm hasn't healed since Meet The Spy
i kinda like the robot engineer's goofy walk ngl they're going goblin mode
What the fuck is goblin mode? Next thing you're telling me you're orcpilled.
@@erictheepic5019elfboss👄💅
1:20 What was the pyro doing!!
I guess pyro is male
seeing demo crouch walk with melee and nothing be wrong is the most cursed thing I've seen today. funny how that works
When seeing the glitch too often, you just felt weird looking at it without it
@@This-is-not-K more like it feels like his canon animation
@@luigio8484 like the mechanical engineer one
0:01 its just german instincts kicking in
I always thought that robot Engi's run animation was just him holding an invisible toolbox considering he can just build at anytime with no consequences, but I thought wrong
3:10 I remember when STAR_ made a video solely about this bug, back in the day. Good times.
TF2: Spooky Demo Arms, in case you can't find the video. STAR_ deleted it on his channel for whatever reason.
I've found a similar issue with certain taunts with the medi gun in play, such as when starting a flip. Very interesting to understand why this happens!
i do like the robot engineer's imperfect walking animation. the weird backwards arm makes him look all cartoony. its fun
After how many bugs this guy got and got a fix for it I still can't believe he isn't working with the janitor and the potted plant at valve
Like sure this is a relatively simple one but he got a fix for so many bugs in other vids it's insane
Bug? The only reason Valve haven’t hired this guy is because they’re worried he’s going to fix this stuff
1:18 Nice demonstration on what inverse kinematics are
What do you mean the Robot Engineer’s run animation is broken? He’s just in a hurry to fix his sentry. That’s all.
1:19 pretty sure that stroke was intentional
speaking of broken limbs, don't forget that they straight up forgot to give medic's right arm an elbow joint on his ragdoll, scout and soldier are the only ones with necks, and sniper's ragdoll has knee joints that bend 90+ degrees to the right rather than back. for some reason soldier is almost always guaranteed to do the family guy "arm behind back" death pose, otherwise his elbow is severely twisted.
that's why the Weaselcake exists.
the medigun lever snaps back so hard medic breaks his arm
3:39 That looks cursed, it shouldn't look cursed, but it looks cursed to me.
edited 'cause I mistyped
1:20 pyro when he sees the calendar girl
1:20 what just happened
Emisis Blue explains this.
As someone qualified to talk about this, it's actually called additive animation, not animation layers (there's a tiiiiiiny difference lol)
Shounic you fool! You're the only person valve listens to for bugs and now they are gonna fix the demo crab!!!
I hope this isn't fixed honestly, that medic losing animation is pretty funny and well-known
yea I find most of these pretty fun and would be kinda sad if they got fixed, especially since they don't effect gameplay
1:19 he knew what he was doing
The Second Opinion’s taking physical control again.
He’s frisky like that.
Personally if the demo, and engie robot were "fixed", i'd be pissed. The engie robot looks like a gunslinger when he does that, and demo's are is just too funny
Don't worry, Medic has Liebenberg syndrome.
Another animation that's broken is the Robo-Demoman's run cycle while the Stickybomb Launcher is equipped.
While running with a Sticky Launcher held in hand, the entire RoboDemo's upper-body twists and contorts 180 degrees, facing behind him as he runs.
I honestly thought that was a feature lmao
Sniper reloaded his knife💀💀💀
Thanks for explaining the bug in 10 seconds. Very cool and good video.
honestly make the robo engi's animation a feature. it looks almost perfectly postioned to be carrying a toolbox in that hand while he runs to his destination
aight but the robot engie's running has always been charming to me imo
I love your forays into the wild corners of this old game we all love so much
This channel is so cool to me, i love seeing behind the scene stuff and bugs in tf2, its interesting as hell.
On “Trade Plaza Gamers UN”, there’s an unreachable control point, so both terms always lose at the end of every “round”.
There’s also a pool in the middle of the map.
So whenever the round would end, somebody would always shout “POOL TIME!” and everyone would make a mad dash for the pool.
id like to imagine the robo engineer was animated like that on purpose
To be honest the robot Engineer animation looks just fine to me. The IK makes the animation feel that much more robotic and unnatural, which helps sell the fact that it's a robot knockoff.
Because that's how he lost his medical license
I seriously thought that the glitch with sniper where he reloads and switches to kukri was intentional, him rolling up his sleeve while he had his kukri out.
Always thought medic did that to look more vulnerable and not dangerous
he'd 100% break his own arm if it gave him the slightest chance of living
His arm breaks from all that embarrassment
Watching this made me realize how good TF2 animations are for the characters.
I honestly thought robot engi's animation was supposed to be that way. It looked cute.
But now I know it's a bug, so it's disgusting. Thanks shounic.
2:40 "and fus" lmao
And this is how the Spycrab was born
1:20 what da pyro doin
well to be honest, robo-engineer's running animation is perfect as it is. its more robot-like, i like it
bro I've always thought that Medic's glove just have slipped off his hand and that's why it looks so goofy 💀
He had a gamer rage and broke his arm.
I think this comes more specifically from the constraint between the medics hand and gun not being removed during the loss animation, his hand tries its best to snap to where the medigun’s handle is but it can’t reach it. So it stretches to max length and the hand is angled at the angle it needs to grab the handle.
3:08 Me, when I reload my bat ;P
He did it, he really confirmed pyros gender.
Valve please hire this man he will single handedly fix every bug left.
In the year of 2023, it's nice to see a video that gets right to the point in 6 seconds. Barely happens anymore.
Why is the first sentence cracking me up so much
This is simply medics way of coping with defeat, as explained in the new comics from [REDACTED].
It was clearly broken in the Meet the Spy video
Can u explain why the spinning loading TF2 logo when looking for a match gets all glitchy when it searches for a long time?
he's scared to raise his hand
3:40 you know democrab is iconic when the fixed version is weird to us ☠️
the broken animation made engineer bot more bot like and cartoonishly interesting
1:19 YOOOO pyro is wild for that
I hope they never fix the funny Demoman hand, its so goofy.
Really fitting for mecha-engineers tho
Yeah the glitch animation really adds the mechanical nature of the engineer robot
"hand and uh and painful"
inverse kinematics in a nutshell
ahh so this explains the spycrab
When the spy is switching to his revolver, it looks like he's just pistol-whipping.
Hai shounic. There is something else I would love for you to investigate. When using the engineers eureka, if you pick up metal from a dispenser you'll pick up an unexpected amount.