Power On + Power Off Stalls - Aborted Takeoffs - Pattern Work OH MY! | PPL Flight Training IRL
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. We back from another flight lesson with student pilot David, who is working toward his private pilot license. We've come a long way documenting this aviation training series. He's really understanding the flight lessons and picking up on the piloting techniques. Soon enough it'll be his first solo, and we have some things to go over before that time.
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0:00 | Intro
So as you see there, today we’re going to get out of the pattern and reemphasize angle of attack, stalls, stall recovery, go arounds, and so on. Because David is getting so close to solo, I really want this to be drilled home for him. Plus, it’ll only help him in finally getting those landings down.
2:55 | Power On - Takeoff & Departure Stall
I do my stalls in a series. The configuration for all the slow flight and stall maneuvers start with the same power setting (1600 in this case) and carb heat. Maintain altitude, and we slow down. First, we do a Power On - Takeoff & Departure Stall.
8:40 | Power Off - Approach & Landing Stall
David and I have a quick discussion on why a power off, approach to landing stall may be easier. Because we aren’t getting the left turning tendencies we were getting in a low airspeed, high power situation, things are a bit more mellow. But we still need to learn how to recover from the stall.
11:43 | The Other Senses of Stall
A new student pilot only has so many hours in which to learn stick and rudder skills. Believe it or not, the 5 senses are a huge part of that ‘hand in glove’ type flying. We aren’t being driven by the airplane. Rather, we should be one with it, relying on all of our senses to get the big picture.
13:33 | Back in the Pattern
Now we’re going to bring everything back to the pattern again, and see how those stall exercises helped with David’s landings.
18:48 | Abort Takeoff Before Rotation
Now we’ll talk about an aborted takeoff. If for whatever reason David needs to do this on his own when soloing, I want him to have some experience doing it.
23:23 | Abort Takeoff After Rotation
What happens if you’ve already lifted off and need to abort your takeoff? Here’s what you need to do.
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What do you look for in a quality flight instructor? How do you learn best? Add #flighttraining #flying #aviation to your comment for a chance to win merch.
One that will be around for the duration of your training. I went through 5 instructors during my private certificate. I had to start from the beginning with each one and it cost me quite a bit more time/money as a result.
Everything you display as a CFI. That’s What I believe I would want in a quality CFI. You the Man!
I’m currently a Student pilot about 9 hours logged on the C172 (almost in sync with this learn to fly video series). I would say my instructor is doing a great job with precision and rigor but advancing the learning process. He’s pushing me on fluid workloads and check listing the stages of flight. Communicating how to tighten up maneuvers and the “feel” of a precise steep turn, stall, climbing / descending turn, coordinated turn. All of these I think are his CFII, MEI, commercial rating experience. He says we want to be two steps ahead of the plane and keep the safety margin as the workloads increases. I’m based out of a tight Class B airspace (KMYF). Great instructing with David by the way. I’m getting a huge boost from this series.
For me, I need an instructor that is supportive and lets me know all the things I'm doing really well or progressing well on, but also is real about where I need to improve, and HOW i can improve.
for me i've 2 instructors, one will point out most mistakes i make and im grand with that but the other will let me make the mistake (up until safety becomes a concern obviously) and he'll point it out in the debrief afterwards. suffice to say, i prefer the latter and remember them much more vividly
When it comes to an instructor I have had a series of them. I started off with a CFI that has been flying since he was 17 he was 25, when I started as a student I was 44. The guy talked down to me, made fun of me when I didn't know something or remembered something. I understand he was eager to get to the airlines but he teaching style was chaotic. He would tell me to prepare for a lesson on say...stalls and falls, and we would then not talk about it at all we would the engine. On a day to day basis I was left guessing what the lesson would be. We were supposed to be following the Jeppesen syllabus but it really wasn't. I asked for another instructor when he made fun of me in front of the a group of pilots standing in the office. I got paired up with two different instructors after that, one CFI the other a CFII. The CFI flew for the regionals and was a very Zen like teacher. Remember Chevy Chase in Caddyshack "Be the Ball..." that was the guy. The second was a former Navy NFO. His style was very different, he did lots of explaining and even painted runways on the grass to practice approaches and pretend we were talking to ATC. Between the two of them there was lots of communication, I talked on the phone to the zen guy all the time. I knew what to expect, and we went over it when in the air. Hands on, visual, and at least a structured lesson is what worked for me. I can read all the instructions, and study hard, but going out and doing it with the CFI is what worked for me. Being with a guy that seemed like he was else where and couldn't wait to get out the cockpit and on to his next lesson didn't work for me.
One thing that I fought with during my training in the pattern was that my CFI would change his verbiage from lesson to lesson. One day it would be “less power” and the next day it would be “pull it back”. When your in ground effect, any delay in understanding can be costly. Now that I’m a CFI, I establish a list of commands on the ground so my students know what I mean at that moment in time so there is no confusion.
Great videos, Chris! Would love to fly with you here in Southern Oregon or up in your area!
Brother, if I could afford to come up to Homer for flight training, there would be no other flight instructor I would want except for you! You are great at what you do. Happy New Year. 🎉
Thanks. I'm just one of many awesome instructors out there.
Chris, The last circuit was the best one! Yep, and you nailed it when you identified that were talking too much! My better instructor expected me
to be out and sitting in the aircraft ready to fly in fifteen minutes this included preflight and any squawks checked. I would be sitting in the left seat and waiting for him to emerge on the scene. Once in the aircraft he would say.......nothing....he was a passenger. All my calls and the first landing were on me! Then we would start the lesson.This exercise continued every lesson until I soloed. Hope this helps! I really enjoy your channel! Throttle On My Brother! mjb #flighttraining #flying #aviation
I had a student who was unusually nervous coming slow down final approach. He said he was afraid of stalling at such a slow speed. We went back to the practice area. With me at the controls, I set up a nice, slow approach, half flaps just like we were flying in the pattern. I then, after warning him, put in some pretty extreme control inputs pulling the nose up and down, turning hard left and right and then continued on the slow final. I asked him if was going to do that when he was flying down final. He said "No way". "Good", I said, "then don't worry about stalling. He was rid of his anxiety just like that. I was happily surprised that worked so well.
Your way of instructing is my preferred way. Let the student make all the non-lethal, non-damaging mistakes in the world. After all, that’s the way the first pilots did it! #flighttraining #flying #aviation
The most helpful thing for me was always when my instructor would correlate different aspects of the flight together. For example, practicing slow flight for the hundredth time, then learning a soft field landing for the first time. Then having them show how slow flight and those last few seconds before touch down are basically the same thing. That always helped make it click for me. #flighttraining #flying #aviation
A good rule of thumb is before you go into a turn always lift your left wing and right wing up make sure no one is coming. I’m not an expert im student pilot myself it’s just something I was taught and it’s a good habit to get into. 👍🏼
You know learning has occurred when you recognize and call out your own mistakes. Great job and improvements were noticed!
True!
That was stunning Chris and loaded with information. Speaking as a non aviator I don’t think I’ve ever learned so much in one video.
This how a channel should be, from the intro to the content, unique simply amazing!! 😍
Thank you so much 😀
I have watched a lot of videos on flying and you are the best instructor I have seen. From Mississippi
My favorite instructor always pushed me to be better. To be precise in every maneuver. Always emphasized the importance of debriefing after every flight.
I like it!
I'm starting power off stalls in lesson 3 this week... I am so ready! A bit anxious
My instructor did a pretty serious stall demonstration on my first flight with him. It was definitely a "what was that!" moment. He wanted to get the scary stuff out the way as soon as possible lol
I love flying Alaska in FS2020. Im jealous David gets you as a teacher, and you get to see those views everyday.
I like your teaching style.
Positive attitude, always supporting. Here is how you can do it better.
Awesome already
My instructor became my friend and is still a close friend to this day. We literally text or talk on the phone every day.
That's wonderful!
Another great video! 👍
Seems like I always learn something from your videos. Hopefully that’ll help me once I do my training. Keep on producing this awesome content!👏🏼
Awesome job and video.
Thank for the quality content, I’ve just found out your channel by luck, and I can’t stop watching those great tips.
I love that David leaves his ego out of the plane, that’s how a student should be to become a master.
Keep it up!
Thank you!
Really enjoyed this video. Shortly after I soloed in a 152, I was practicing power on stalls and hung on the left rudder and in an instant I was spinning going to the ground. Fortunately, I did the right thing and survived. I got really close to the trees.
Love the video and explanations. I'm doing stalls and slow flight in my lesson tomorrow. I love my instructor because he is very articulate and good at explaining things as well as being patient with me and other students
You’re a really good instructor and I’ve actually bettered my turns and landings from watching your videos , and getting to hear Aviation terminology with more frequency besides the flight class really helps
I agree with the comments below about your skill as an instructor. I wish I could have you as an instructor for a few lessons. I'm based in the UK and am embarking on my LAPL. I've completed about four hours so far. Having watched a few of your videos, I'm sure that my lessons have not only been 'extended' but they are not covering the amount of content your lessons seem to cover. I suspect in my case it is a clever way of generating more revenue for the school and instructor, as a student isn't generally going to question an instructor's methods. I have changed schools and hope my lesson and new instructor (later today) will introduce me to more of the syllabus. You seem to bring your students up to a high level of skill very efficiently and quite rapidly, and cover all the basics in order to string them together and practise it in each successive lesson.
Another stunning video Chris!!! You're a natural teacher!
Thanks again! I'm not the only great instructor out there. Hate to even call myself great.
You're out there doin the Lord's work! Seriously man, I'm doing my check ride prep work right now and watching your content calms my nerves and gives me motivation. Keep up the good content Angle of Attack!
Good Job David! and i remember vividly doing T O L's and my knee board fell off the side and my instructor Saying in a deep stern voice "KEEP YOUR HAND ON THE THROTTLE"!
Great video Chris!
Glad you enjoyed it
You do an amazing job!!! God Bless you and your family.
Thank you so much!
Excellent can recover and recognize the situation and do the rigth correction😏👍🏼
Nice job to both ! Thanks Fellas..enjoyed it.
Thanks 👍
Another excellent video. High quality content as always! @aviation @flighttraining @alaska @instructor @CFI
Thanks again!
Im doing my first stall lessons tomorrow. I think I have watched about 20 plus videos on it. Always enjoy your instruction and the scenery of course is beautiful! I struggled last time with slow flight. I felt all over the place. I look forward improving all of these every week. Keep up the videos!
I am lucky that my instructor has similar attitude as yours. You are positive and constructive, you are a great instructor.
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it
Awesome. I am working on my FI(A) rating and that type of videos help me a lot. I think I will use your tips in my work as Flight Instructor. Greetings from Poland
Great Job David. Your just a lesson or two ahead of me. Been great following along. I’m due for stalls on my next lesson. Then Spins which I don’t think is a component of the US training. Chris, I think the constant talk is reassuring if you come prepared for your lesson. Your just reiterating what the student has studied.
I learned to fly in almost the same plane with that same annoyingly loud stall horn. The club I'm in now has slightly newer 172s with these little wimpy electric stall horns that are not nearly as loud. I'm so used to that loud horn that I barely ever notice it in the planes I fly now. When training I never thought I would miss it but I really do!
Training is fun. There's just something about it that's really impactful. Heightened senses I suppose.
I hate that horn sound! My Cherokee has a stall light, which I love and prefer more than a horn.
My favorite teacher was always the one who was exacting, but not demeaning.
Chris, Great job on the video. The CFI I used when I flew for my PPL was very knowledgeable with lots of hours yet laid back and not super intense. Seemed to work well for me for that stage of pilot training. Now I am a guy who takes initiative and studied a lot by myself. A couple times he put a little to much faith into what he thought I knew on my own though. Nothing bad happened of course as he would never let it go too far. Now I will need to start looking for a IFR instructor as the one I used for VFR is not a CFII. Unfortunately I live in a small area with not many instructors. May have to travel. This is all after my plane gets upgraded with a GPS. Have a great week.
Amazing video, hope that one day I'll be able to be right there!!
I hope so! Make sure you're subscribed!
Couple of things, when preparing him for solo, back off on what you’re thinking. (You mentioned all that as I was typing this!) Also, forward slips are good to practice when landing from high up. Flying the length on center line 3’ off is good practice for control. Do they never have any crosswinds in Homer? Seems smooth! Beautiful scenery! Great videos!
You were born to be a CFI!
Favorite style of teaching. Hands on, but if not doing something correct, the direct correction from an advisor has been the best way to learn. No egos. When it comes to flight training, you have a great style. If it was I, and I am paying for an instructor/plane/gas I would expect the style of teaching you instruct. Much love
Also always love the content!
Really enjoy a different perspective on teaching. I had one main CFI and flew with a few others once or twice. He did a really good job, teaching me, but I do like watching how you teach your students.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Chris, funny you should ask. If I didn't live 12.5 flight hours via a non stop flight from you, I would choose you and your style of instruction. From what I've observed you appear to be relaxed, confident, reassuring, highly aware of detail and procedure, encouraging and supportive, and very sure of the sequence of steps needed to gain the skills needed to be a pilot. I should add that I discovered you via Josh Flowers adventures with you, which I believe occurred in the summer of 2019. (a slightly better year than 2020 :-)
Thanks for the compliments! I'm not a unicorn, though. Lots of great instructors out there.
i love his facial expression in the stall! great teaching tho chris
My favorite teachers gave me only a few answers. Instead they asked me questions to guide me. So I finally answered my questions myself. This way I don't had to learn more but only had to make connections between things I already knew.
Hi, thanks of the video, it has overall good things.
One thing I want to point out, you said "Do not step on rudder on final". I disagree that because light general aviation airplane should be flown coordinated every second (except on side slip) so that you step little on rudder ALL THE TIME with small aileron movement. On this video I can see yawing on final due to missing rudder with aileron, student want to turn slightly left, turns aileron to left, nose stays on same heading or turns right, one second turning to left, student turns aileron right to leveloff wings and to stop turn, and nose turns same time rapidly to left. I have seen this with many students and reason is that they have not learned to fly actively coordinated. Rudder has to move all the time as much aileron, then heading is steady and nose does not swing to opposite direction compared to bank change. First thing to practice after keeping straight level flight is coordinated control of aileron and rudder. Every instructor should demand this very early. Approaching on cross wind conditions is another thing and needs more tricks...
Second thing, If wing drops when stalling with engine power, it is dangerous to stop wing dropping with aileron because it can drop wing more and can cause spin, opposite rudder is better same time with releasing pull/pushing elevator. Aileron can be used after dropping wing is flying again and bank does not increase anymore. This is very difficult to practise for everybody and should practise more and many times. One good practise is to fly level flight with engine power plane almost stalling and student keeps wings level with rudder only, first time instructor keeps hand on stick to prevent student to use aileron. In this practice plane goes sometimes to spin if aileron is used or rudder is used wrong way so has to practise high from ground.
I practiced some partners at homer airport in flight sim and enjoyed the scenery :)
That's awesome!
Hi, I'm also an PPL student and I find your videos very nice and helpful to me to understand what should I do in the future. I have just 3 Hours of flying.
Glad it's helpful. Make sure you're subscribed!
Happy New Year !!
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Love the channel!!!! N00b question. Why queue the mic 4 times before landing? Are you turning on the runway lights or something?
Keep 'em coming!
I don’t want to be critical, but I fear that some of the commands you give for correction are confusing. Turning r base to runway 4, you tell David about attitude and speed and tell him so let’s go back back back back back.. I was confused thinking does he want speed or elevator? It seems obvious that it’s speed pull back, but to newb it would be confusing. Maybe use “off/on” for speed and “back / forward” for elevation.
Did a real aborted takeoff 2 months after getting my private. Had never practiced. Pitot icing - airspeed never came alive. Definitely want to practice it more. Great video!!
G, day AoA from Sydney, Australia.
Q1. What did I enjoy about my first learning program for PPL?
A. BAK
Q2. What is my method of learning?
A. It has changed over the years from:
Demonstrated and recited
Mult model using repeat recall, lecture and note-taking,
Assessments written and verbal.
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* Do you use the brown stripe on the top of the nose cowling to help level turn with the horizon?
Thanks "Blue Skies"
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14:48 ? Biting at the air that gave me a good laugh.
I think I was popping my ears or something.
@@angleofattack oh that makes more sense now. Cannot wait to see David's solo!
@@angleofattack also, I have a slightly off-topic question for you which I would like to know the answer to before my upcoming first flight lesson: what is the cause of the instability in ground effect? I know the Soviet eraknoplans used T-tails to avoid this instability from(I beleive) a video made by the channel "Real Engineering." I wondered if you knew the answer to this, you seem to be the type of pilot who keeps track of his/her airplane knowledge.
Such an important skill. I always say 99% of training is learning how to recover from abnormal situations.
Haha I thought I had that power on stall thingy in the bag during my training until one day the sky was clear and there was no point of reference to see if the nose is yawing. Turned out I didn’t have it at all :)
Ha! That's awesome. Humbling I'm sure.
Me and my flight instructor had the sam type of personallity. Make, fail, repeat. He would show me the procedure once. Then it was all me. He only interrupted when he flet like it needed to. Which I can admit was a few hundred times. But the important thing was that I learn by doing. Not hearing about it for 2 hours. With some instructors might feel a bit to heavy on the controlls, he was the complete opposite
I certainly like that style as well. Instructors shouldn't be flying a lot.
@@angleofattack their mission to me atleast is to make the student as safe of an aviator as possible. That to me (I have only had mine since december last year) so more experienced might have a different take on it comes from loads of stick and rudder time. Experience the "unusuall" ea taking of into strong crosswinds, landing on icy runways. And making a few misstakes without the instructor screaming no instantly. Providing ofcourse that misstake is not critical.
How long ago was David's last lesson before you shot this video and how many hours did he have up to this point?
just curious but shouldn't it be power up, speed up , pitch up, clean up? thanks
OH! that famous video is YOU!? WTF man, I never knew. Well done to walk (or fly as it were) away from that one
Yeah, I don't like that it was me. But sure glad I shared it. Many have learned.
Hes a top guy. A little low on the first approach, does he know about the PAPI lights ? Love the videos keep em going !!
Also, my instructor is actually very like you. Chilled, lets me take control but if he spots anything he lets me know in a good way. I think thats the best kind of teacher, if your student is scared of making mistakes... they are going to make more.
Thanks 👍 I think so too. The pressure just means more mistakes sometimes.
@@angleofattack Agreed, thanks for the reply. When I pass my PPL i plan on coming to the states. Would love to do some hour building in Alaska. Mainly down in Florida. But Alaska is too beautiful to miss. Would be good to fly with you!
Very informative video! Is it difficult to validate a German PPL towards a foreign vistor licence in the US?
There's a process. I don't think it's difficult, though.
The best way I learned was when I would have my instructor demo it for me if I was unsure of what to do. I would watch their movements, the way the plane acted, and follow suit.
I call that monkey see, monkey do.
@@angleofattack if the banana fits :D
My instructor doesnt talk enough! lol
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Question for you is, if I have no idea about flying, and I want to learn, what do I do? What steps do I first take?
There's a guide at angleofattack.com on the front page. That should help!
@@angleofattack Cheers mate, I'll have a look at it! Thank you!
Lettuce you say! 🤣
“Who’s gonna hear my mistakes, traffic?”
Yeah and 62,000 people on the internet. 😂
true, but still. It's the right attitude.
My perfect CFI : CFI shouldn't correct me soon. he should let me learn by my mistakes and only intervene when there Is a danger...
Can't always be that way, though. Sometimes we need to intervene so you don't learn the wrong thing.
@@angleofattack of course but some time for example some of my instructors starts intervene as soon as I start to drift from a selected radial or drifting from the final course. this way I won't get a chance to find my mistake and improve my scaning.
@@alirezaghaderi both views very understandable and correct in its way i think?
I don’t think you talk to much. You are teaching them their own cues.
There are some instructors that talk way too much. Wish I could learn to say less.
Instructor should be able to change their teaching approach for different students. Maybe A 16 year old needs a different style than a 55 year old. For example doing the same thing wrong 100 times might never correct a problem.
It's true. You can't just beat it out of them.
@@angleofattack You remember that movie ground hog day ? That is what my TW endorsement was like. Don't get me wrong I had fun doing about 100 landings in 3 days but I understood him differently than he intended .