BMW X5 XDrive 45e - Bury The Pedal - TestDrive | Everyday Driver
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- Опубликовано: 19 янв 2022
- Is the BMW X5 XDrive 45e a worthy hybrid, whether in driving feel or utility? The guys speculate if it's just good for now or long-term, but aren't about to feather the throttle while determining if it lives up to BMW's heritage.
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This is one of the worst reviews of this vehicle I have seen.
I disagree with your comments on there being a such small audience for this vehicle. And BMW sales numbers would bear that out...they are difficult to get, dealers can't keep them in inventory. FWIW, I've owned one for 2 months...this is my 4th BMW and my favorite so far. It does everything very well...good fuel economy, premium feel, tons of power, utility and the tax credit makes it a better deal than the 40i. The only sacrifice vs a 40i is lack of 3rd row (which is unusable anyway, imho) and an ever so slightly smaller rear storage area (to make room for the battery). And compared to the Volvo...well, no comparison. Talk about boring. And having test driven both, way less powerful.
I just ordered one (1) today in the Netherlands. Delivery time is 04/23 due to the high demand. Also premium selection versions are sold very quickly so no small audience in Europe. Volvo is more expensive overhere!!
I think you guys are a bit off on this review. We have this car and it's a brilliant luxury SUV that is luxurious, quiet, and has the advantage of going electric or gas. It does require a commitment to charge it and you really need a level 2 charger to fully use the electric power and the charging speed is pitiful compared to our Tesla. I watched several reviews of testers that tested the X5 45E versus the Volvo equivalent and most all prefer this X5. For me, the inline 6 is reason enough to choose the X5 over the 4-cylinder Volvo. We ordered ours exactly how we wanted it and it came to about $66K after factoring in the federal tax credit, actually cheaper than getting the exact same spec'd X5 40I. For the money, it's a brilliant value.
I generally enjoy your reviews but this one was a miss in my opinion because you haven't connected with the type of buyer this car will make very happy.
I totally agree. I used to own the 40i and just switched over to a 2022 45e a couple of months ago and it is a brilliant car! Indeed, you need to commit to charging it to benefit from your (local) electric driving. But with that my MPG has gone from 20 MPG (40i) to 30 MPG (45e). I also love how seamlessly the car manages to switch between combustion and electric motors. Charging is slow compared to most (fully) electric vehicles but when plugged in overnight it will be full in the morning.
@@gertjanmeijer9756 And I agree with you as well. Just checked and we're averaging 32.8 mpg since we bought the car.
This is probably the strangest X5 45e review I’ve seen. I own a Volvo T8 phev and have recently driven the X5 45e which is probably going to be my next car. It is a better car in every imaginable factor. Claiming that the Volvo XC60/90 ”is a better drive” than the BMW is one of the oddest things here. Put a little speed to a corner and you really don’t feel comfortable in my Volvo (R-Design spec). The same speed with the BMW and you don’t notice anything, it is planted to the road. Maybe it’s because the BMW is so much quieter and refined that you feel like going faster in the Volvo. The engine sound in the 3.0l six cylinder BMW is awesome and in the Volvo the four cylinder 2.0 engine sounds very strained and harsh even on low revs. When you floor it, the sound is louder than any diesel I’ve owned.
I get a usable electric range of 35km from the Volvo but around 70km from the X5 (EU spec). You can easily do your daily commutes on e-power only. The Volvo is a front wheel driven car with ”aid” from the e-motor on the back wheels. On slippery days it’s impossible to drive on electric mode because if the rear wheels spin even a little bit it will fire up the engine to start pulling with the front wheels. Totally unusable in winter driving, snow and icy roads. The BMW is 4wd also on electric only as mentioned in the video. The electric power is sufficient in the BMW to keep up with normal traffic on shorter commutes. It’s actually better than the numbers make you think cause the e-motor can use the transmission unlike in the Volvo where the underpowered 83hp rear wheel motor is quite useless on its own (latest models have more power but the concepts is still bad, can’t change that).
They also say the Volvo has more power but that is not how the cars feel. The Volvo under acceleration is nervous and does not feel confident since the front wheels are delivering 80% of the power. The steering wheel keeps pulling your hands. The BMW has a rear wheel bias 60-40 front split on the xDrive system and under heavy acceleration you can basically remove your hands from the steering wheel and it still goes like on rails.
The infotainment is lightyears ahead in the BMW. The Volvo system is filled with unusable small touch screen texts to click and it is just a pain to use. On the BMW you have multiple ways to interact with the system and choose which is best for the situation you are in. The cruise control on the Volvo does not work and in downhill you may go 9km/h over the set limit. In the BMW it never goes above more than 1-2km/h.
I could go on, the list is long but I think you get the point. I’m never buying a Volvo again. Watch other X5 45e reviews. This is an odd one, even though I like the way it’s done.
As an ex Volvo XC90 ( 2018-2021) owner, I can fully agree and attest to what you say. Was the T6, but have driven the T8 often, liked it a lot, but after driving this 45e, there is no comparison honestly. Everything is better on the BMW, though I like the Volvo exterior styling a smidge better. These two clowns have no effin clue what they are reviewing.
@@dgdave2673 I now own the X5 45e. Have had it for a week. Had to take an in-stock car, so I couldn’t spec it myself. There are some essential options missing like keyless entry but that is not the cars fault, rather the sales persons who ordered the in-stock car. To ”balance” this are also needless options like display key, heated arm rests etc. It’s really hard to fault this car. After owning the Volvo for a month I had a 30 item list of things they could improve (like the bumbers of the car being slightly different color from the metal surfaces and many, many others in addition to the ones I mentioned above). Now, on the BMW, so far I have nothing.
A few days back I drove 420+ km with an average consumption of 6,6l/100km (full battery at start), 82km/h average speed. I never got even close to those numbers with my Volvo on trips like that even though it has a smaller engine. I think the overall average consumption was close to 10l/100km. If you drove very nicely in hybrid mode (read front wheel drive) you’d get 8,7 maybe but in 4wd setting it got closer to 10.
Very happy with my new car! Highly recommended. Very refined, it’s actually quite hard to hear if the engine is running or not, it’s so quiet and smooth. There’s literally 0 engine vibration coming into the cabin.
Totally agree what you said. I currently drives the Volvo XC60 T6 Inscription(Fully loaded $60K MSRP). From over a year's experience, the Volvo is way toooo noisy, the road noise, engine noise is not acceptable at this price point. That's the biggest complaint we have.
So is the infotainment screen, it is sluggish and slow. So we wanted to switch, we test drove the XC90 T6, It has the same problem un-acceptable noise level. And with the 2023 XC90 T8 Extended range, the change the pricing model, if you want a good interior with leather stitching on the door, with the ultimate trim, plus air suspension, and Bowers&Wilkins you are looking at 86K.
On the other hand, the fully loaded X5 45e we were looking at it is 80K. Thought it doesn't have the Bowers&Wilkins, but it is Way cheaper. And driving them side by side, the XC90 is not refined as a luxury car at the price point, it is way over priced.
Our x5 45e is expecting to arrive late September this year. Looking at your comment of "I'm never buying a Volvo again." I feel you. That's how I felt after driving my Volvo for over a year.
@@malcolmlaw7663 good choice! Congrats! I have had my X5 45e for 4 months now and I’ve driven 21500km with it. Out of those 8500 are electric. That’s around 40%. I wasn’t even close to that with my Volvo. I still have 0 complaints on BMW. It is so refined and quiet. Even though it is actually quite dynamic to drive on sport and does feel fast if you call for it, the cars character makes you want to just cruise quietly and comfortably. The engine is so good, I accelerate faster sometimes just to hear it :). Really, very hard to think of what BMW could do better in a car like this.
Just go for 40i, I disagree on Volvo XC90, interior is far better on x5. Also inline six on X5 is the best in the business, 2.0t turbo on xc90 can’t compete. 45e if you don’t get fully loaded is good value with 7500 credit. I think this is the first bad review on 45e I’ve seen, most people seem love this thing. It’s best execution of plug-in suv, best inline six combined with large battery, what’s not to like?
I have one and think it is a fantastic very comfortable car, my best BMW ever and I drive 80000 km a year !
Do you have a hybrid?
What kind of mpg are you getting on the hwy with a full charge? That's my biggest concern
Boys you should review the recently released 50e. It's answered a lot of the minuses you've mentioned.
I got one. Absolutely fabulous.
Love the jackets with the red and blue stripes!
I think the part of the discussion where you talk about it being difficult for the whole world to go fully electric by 2030 is spot on. The reality is, we still use fossil fuels to bring electricity to our homes and it will take the equivalent of installing 2-3 refrigerators in every home power-wise to keep our cars charged. Our current electrical grid isn't ready for that sort of consumption and I doubt the tech will be there to replace it. A plug-in hybrid is a nice middle ground in terms of doing what you can and being realistic. The improved gas mileage doesn't make you feel guilty on long road trips and the plug-in should suffice for getting around town every couple of days between charges.
Well, after a test ride in both, I strongly disagree that the Volvo XV90 feels more powerful. With loaded battery both feel similar to me but with empty battery, the Volvo with its 2.0 4-Cylinder has no chance against the 3.0 straight six in the BMW. Also the BMW has the better pure electric range and the iDrive system is benchmark while you get lost in the Volvo. The only thing the Volvo can beat the BMW in my eyes is exterieur design. Anyway, I ordered the BMW and looking forward to get it .... sometime. Btw: I always smile when US people complain about the price tag of USD 81k. I equipped my X5 hybrid well but not fully loaded and it´s Euro 110,450 here in Germany. That´s USD 125,300 :-(
What is the delivery time on your car? Market value of this model is going crazy. When you buy a X5 new the 40i model is €15.000 more than the 45e model thanks to tax on co2. But on the used market the 40i is €15.000 cheaper in comparison to the 45e. So already €30.000 worse in depreciation.
81k is fully loaded and no body really did that. If you don't need M style, all-leather, seat ventilation, laser light, you can have this for
dont get this 81 K price tag. we just ordered one for 66 K .
Wow… so much cheaper than The Netherlands. X5 45e starts at 87K and 40i at 102K. Options can add 30-40K on the models.
Ive paid for my 205k $ in Israel 😂😂😂😂
I've just managed to pass 2,000 miles since my last fossil refuelling which was January 9th. It's now March 21st and I still have 1/4 of a tank left.
Going to pick mine up this week so I have no comments about the car itself but I wanted to point out why we bought it.
All electric in rural SD is too scary to drive over 200 miles with no charging but still do a lot of in town driving. 30-40 miles is reasonable vs the Volvo. You get hung up on the price but if you just take the tax credit off the price it’s far cheaper than the 40i. If you use the electric side half the time for say in town driving it’s far cheaper than the 40i.
I don’t think anyone is buying this thinking they are getting a sports car.
It’s a hybrid in more ways than one.
According to my dealer the order slots filled up extremely quick so the demand is clearly there. With $5 plus gas I think it’s going to be one of the most desirable on the market.
Another aspect to think about that I think is overlooked.
If you also want performance like a lot of people who buy the B58 are, if you do a stage 2 tune on this with the hybrid, you’d have an AWD trackhawk killer that also gets better fuel efficiency.
I got one and absolutely love it, I have to respectfully disagree with parts of this review. It feels much more powerful than the XC90 which I also test drove. Volve simply adds gas and electric HP, and it doesn't work that way IRL. Additionally, BMW also remains conservative of their HP figures, and honestly the B58 in this car feels every bit as powerful as the one in the 40i, so I wonder if there's a little downplaying there to keep the 40i owners placated. The 40i is amazing to drive, but this is just simply phenomenal. Additionally, my commute (like most folks) is under 15 miles each way. I can make the entire commute without using gas, so I fill up the tank about once a month, if even that. So in the case of saving gas, you absolutely do save gas. And don't let the slow electric car comment fool you. It feels plenty fast in electric mode for keeping up with traffic. And when you bury the throttle, hold on to you hat. The Jekkyl and Hyde nature of this car is so appealing and fun. Absolutely love it. Get one if you can find one.
I am considering ordering one. How is the gas mileage for the X5e?
Got one and I love it. I knew what I wanted in this car and it didn't disappoint. Good points.
@@ptb127 on a day with around 70 miles of driving I got an average of 40 mpg, using around almost 40 miles of those under pure electric
Do you find it does not sped up fast enough on pure EV mode on high way? Do you usually drive on hybrid mode?
I own this model and love it. I test drove the Volvo and while I was impressed with how it handled it was so boring to look at. The interior of the X5 Hybrid is so much nicer. While I do not love the lines of this current X5 (I so loved the look of my 2012 X5) I compensated by getting the M Sport package and an upgraded paint color. My husband and I have owned BMWs since the 80's. Yes, this vehicle does not handle nearly as well as my past cars and it took me quite a few months to get used to it I think because of the electric element. I feel like it can get away from you because of the weight. All that being said; their assessment is correct that if you are just going to tool around locally and keep this vehicle charged you will get the most out of it, especially power. Since March of 2022 til today I have only filled the gas tank up 5 times. My husband purchased the I4 in November 2022 (now that is an amazingly FAST CAR, just WOW!) We plug both our vehicles in regularly and our electric bill each month has only increased by $20 per month. We recently went on a 3 hour road trip and the X5 Hybrid was lovely on the highway. Because I keep my vehicles for 10 years I feel I will continue to enjoy this X5. It really is special.
My wife has a 330i, and I took it to service recently and got a 330e as a loaner. I actually enjoyed that 330e a lot. It feels super responsive off the line and feels mostly pretty natural to drive. It lacked the M Sport package like our 330i has, but otherwise, I like it. Thankfully it is only about 4000 pounds, not over 5000 like this X5, though, that still feels like a lot for a 3-series. Though, I don't notice it in regular driving.
I really want one of these. I think the X5 is the classiest looking SUV on the current car market. On top of that, it has the performance, luxury and reliability of a modern BMW.
Reliability ?
@@OGkush69x Yes, I know.. but BMW has come a long way. In fact a lot of these notorious brands have come to reach better reliability
Yeah. BMW has got to do better on reliability. It just not make sense even to people who can flat out afford these wicked Bimmer’s!
Only 2 things BMW needs to improve on. And that’s Reliability and steering feel.
And it will be a wrap! 😂
@@martygreen3145 yeah ive seen a many “rich” people who can easily afford new bmw’s and there maintenance, get tired and get rid of there bmw not because of the money but because they were tired of there car being in the shop every other month and all the downtime.
@@martygreen3145 Both of those issues pale in comparison, imho, to the major issue with BMW which is that every new car they release is uglier than the last. The iX, 4 series, new 7 and the 2 series are all appalling compared to the cars they’re meant to replace. All the reliability in the world couldn’t forgive the xenomorph faces.
I own this vehicle got the tax credit, and I plug it in every night. If you’re good, you can get 30mpg promise. I regularly do road trips and pull 550 miles... 75 mph to 80mph. Also... this thing should not be able to do what it does in sport mode on back roads omg it’s amazing. I’ve shocked passengers on how well it handles. I drove the M at bmw track day obviously better, it’s very clearly the same car tho so far it really is an amazing vehicle. I also raise it up to 10inches of ground clearance and drive it DAILY on a farm. It does it all. I gotta disagree as an owner of this vehicle.
It even sticks its but out and you push it too far in a corner. I just love it
I own and love it too.
I too have this car in Australia and find this car exceptional. We have rooftop solar and we use this to charge the car, we currently run at 1.4l per 100km ( 168 mpg) We travel out of town to the Sunshine Coast a few times a year but the battery maintains about 50-75km
This car is a very comfy car to drive in town and the highway suits our needs perfectly
@@swalee I have this car on order in Western Australia. Do you mind informing me how or where to instal rooftop solar?
@@garyingram58 He meant on the roof of the house, in order to get the electricity from green source, not on the roof of the car.
I think that this type of car is mostly used in urban/city environments, because of the great hybride system. And here in Europe with CO2 dependent taxation it’s great value for money. It’s a big and powerful car, lots of presence with the bonus of reduced taxes. So it definitely has a big market here
I may purchase this, I drive one way to work 24 miles and have a charger at work. The only issue I have is the bmw badge reliability. I'm coming from a 2018 MDX Hybrid and so far @ 97,000 miles, there's been no issues mechanical. I average 27mpg with wider 265 tires but im still pumping 91 octane $105+ a week working 6 days a week
I love this car. I drive it electric, hybrid, sport, whatever. I love the power. Yes this is my 5th Bmw so I’m obviously a bmw driver. We wanted an suv, and I think it’s fun to drive,. It’s not my convertible but that won’t hold my dogs and groceries while hitting 60 up the mountain in just few seconds. Gas for fun, electric for the puttering. I have 220 in the garage so plugging in is no brainer.
It is so hard plugging in EVERY night. I mean it is like climbing Mount Everest.
People often miss one key point about BMW PHEV. BMW has a battery control button where you could charge up the battery while you are driving in gasoline mode. This works well especially when taking a road trip or driving on a highway. Once the battery is charged to 100%; you could switch back to electric only coasting on the highway or Eco mode where you might use both. This is how BMW PHEV intend it to be. Without using the battery, you are just hauling the dead battery weight around which drain the gas even more comparing to gasoline version.
Benjamin, I am learning more about my 45e which I got a month ago. I can’t seem to figure out how to constantly charge my battery when using the ICE. It seems to decide on its own. What I want it to do is recharge it back to full when it gets to 0 charge so I can switch back to electric. The owners manual is not very clear on that. How do you manage it?
@@michaelmish4953 I would recommend charging on a daily basis. The car will ask you whether to charge immediately or at a scheduled time when you turn off the car. I set mine to charge at the off-peak hours for cheaper rates. For your 45e, it should take about 8-10 hours from empty to full from 110V (wall outlet).
To charge the car while driving, there's a button above the start button (looks like a charging icon). Press the button. You can set the target for the car to charge the battery (from 10% to 100%). This button will put the car into ICE mode which would consume less mpg but it will charge your battery to the set target. It works best at higher speeds like when you're driving on a freeway or highway. It's great for long-distance driving or after depleting all of the battery. Once your battery is full, make sure to turn it off by pressing the button again. It will go back to your driving mode (e.g., Electric, Eco, Standard, Sports, etc.).
@@michaelmish4953 I also attempted to recharge but the trade off is that the mpg will drastically drop to 11 12 mpg. It does get you some miles in the battery though. I'm just not sure if those miles gained are worth the extra gas I'm using, destroying my great mpg I had before.
another gr8 review
love how into the weeds on so many different aspects of the car y’all go into
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@@TestDriveVideos 50 miles per charge? Nice!
How about doing the IX3 vs rivals?
Targeted for the leasing end users than the rest of the potential market. 50/60 miles in electric mode only? In your dreams!
As an ex Volvo XC90 ( 2018-2021) owner, I just don’t agree to what these guys say at all. The Volvo was good but after driving this 45e, there is no comparison honestly. Everything is better on the BMW, though I like the Volvo exterior styling a smidge better. These two clowns have no effin clue what they are reviewing.
Not sure why the emphasis on 81k. My spec is $68k with premium leather, parking assist and vent/heated seats. Doesnt 68k make a lot more sense for the x5 x45e?
Same ours was 71k and we did get. 2500 dollar tax credit from California for it too
I've been driving X5 since year 2000 the first gen. I get a new lease every 3 years. I love them and they are the safest SUV on the market. My current lease is due in 3 months so now I would have to go and PURCHASE one instead of getting a new lease in order to get that $7500 federal tax credit. that's a pretty heavy price tag...
Do you have $7500 federal tax credit if you lease car? I’m thinking to lease one but I don’t know have the tax credit
@@MinhNguyen-tz8ti it's for purchase only. Don't have 7500 if you lease. My lease is up in 3 months. I can purchase my current lease because it appreciated and there is equity I can use toward my purchase. And get the 7500 tax credit. Double dipping.
@@barryliu8 thank you for your information. The reason I want to lease is because bmw only good for the first couple years, after that they have some issues and will cost a lot of money to fix. Is that right?
@@MinhNguyen-tz8ti You are correct there. There's a big reason why I've been leasing for the last 22 years. I had all sorts of problems with BMW such as bad transmission, bad computers, car refused to drive or just refuse to start (personality of the car)... once they had to send an engineer all the way from Germany to reprogram the computer on the car and that took 1 month. I had to drive their loaner (X1) for a month and paid for an X5 price. BMW is the worse (service-wise and computer system-wise). But they are the best when it comes to handling and safety cars and I had driven many many many cars and nothing can compare. Handling and safety overweight everything else.
We took delivery on 10/21 and we now have 2500mls on car and 2350mls are all electric.
We absolutely love this car it works really well for us. My wife has a very short drive to work top 5 mls . We plug in the car all the time and it really works well.
Can’t wait to do my taxes and see how that will work.
Excellent and useful content as usual.
You guys are so good at articulating the reasoning behind what you do and do not regard in a vehicle. Thanks!
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Nah, they don't get credit for this video. They misidentified the range of the battery and the top speed of the EV. I bought one of these a week ago, and it's identical to the one in this video. This car is surprisingly nimble for the weight. The driving assist can be annoying, which is why I turned down the sensitivity. The ~30 mile battery range should cover the average person to and from work, but at the very least to work where perhaps you can charge. So, you get the tax credit and the gas savings. Oh, and if you want to go fast, it goes 0 to 60 in about 4.7 to 4.8 (much faster than BMW reports). It drives so smoothly, but if you want to get aggressive, it has that too!
Agree with other commenters - you missed the point on the 45e. I came from a 2013 MB ML550 that I drove for 175k mi and bought this a year ago.
The biggest thing is the ride comfort and the silence of driving predominately in EV mode. No one buying this cares a lick about steering feel - that’s not the priority.
I drove a 40i as a loaner and was surprised at how much I notice the NVH of the engine. I also drove the M50i, and passed because the extra power doesn’t do much for me in daily driving. But the EV motor does.
I liked that the 45e had comparable power to the ML550, the ability to tow 6k lbs, air suspension, but in the city could go around 50-75mph depending on usage. My ML550 averaged around 12-14mpg in the city. Plus it is more comfortable - the suspension really does waft on the highway.
And that federal credit puts this in line with the 40i in terms of price. I get same power, same build quality, but way better city gas mileage for around the same price.
My assumption is people buying this are urban and suburban professionals who want comfort, a bit of luxury, and have a garage they actually park in every night where they can charge this every day.
The XC90 (which I rented for 2 weeks to test) falls short on electric range, ride comfort, and build quality. I was shocked at how much I didn’t like it. It looks fantastic - but the noise from the 4cyl isn’t nice. BMW learned that lesson from the prior-gen 40e and gave it a proper I6 so when you do hear the motor it isn’t raspy.
Take one look at the Bimmerforum for this model and it’ll tell you what you need to know - most people who buy one love it and have very little to say that’s bad. We all just wished it charged at 7kW/hand not 3.7kW/h - the charging is properly slow on these. But for most who garage it overnight it doesn’t actually matter.
I can’t believe these guys don’t understand that 30 miles on electric means most who buy will rarely use gas but can go on a 500 mile road trip without any route charger planning or range anxiety. And it’s not $80k unless it’s fully loaded. With plenty of options and luxury it’s $72k and then you get the tax credit so for most it’s a $65k luxury suv that commutes as an EV and road trips as an ice. It absolutely fits a huge need in the market. Surprisingly bad review that does not seem to get it.
I would actually consider this precisely because of its dual nature. My daily driving would be more than satisfied by the electric range, and even though it's heavy, it would be more efficient than any gasoline or regular hybrid. Then the size, comfort, and gas engine would make it better on road trips than almost any electric car. I wish they would commit to this dual-nature though. If I'm going to drive it mostly in electric mode, make that the more powerful part, and then give me a gas engine that's just optimized for cruising on the highway.
All that said, 80k is way more than I would want to spend on a car so boring. Also, you could buy 2 separate cars for the 2 use cases for that much money.
I want a luxury PHEV and it irks me that Mercedes and BMW have more PHEV models in Europe, but not in the US. The X5 could work , but just 31 miles... really? Is a luxury Rav4 Prime (that isn't the hideous NX) really too much to ask for?
The silly thing is that the same X5 in Europe has more range... come on!
Best review i've ever seen of this car, very insightful and you got all the points right.
What! The other guy doesn’t know this qualifies for Federal tax credit and even State tax credits in some states?
Are these guys driving the same car I test drove? For me was very good experience. Maybe they want to be different than other reviewers.
Perhaps BMW, along with others, are simply trying to figure out what they can get away with and what they can sell while not offending either: 1) their customer base; 2) electric/hybrid advocates; 3) those who are well heeled enough to have a foot in both camps. The thing that boggles my mind is how companies that have traditionally produced cars that speak to and spike our emotions, how are they going to survive in an environment where cars become less about passion and more about being an appliance?
Maybe this is my answer to my own question:
My wife and I have a 2019 Tiguan SEL (a very nice automotive appliance) and it does what it does very well and there are times I marvel at how it "just does." Yet with my marveling there's never a time that it brings about passion; but there is comfort in the fact that I don't have to think much about it doing it's job superbly; the car isn't the object of my attention but rather its making memories with my family as the car just seamlessly fades into the background with a whisper as if to say, "I've got this, focus on the important things in life." It's not quick, it doesn't handle great, but it's roomy, has a nice sunroof and it fills our needs but I don't look back at it when I'm walking into the house.
Nice appliance and not passion...is this our automotive future and, again, is this what BMW and others are trying to see if they can get away with without getting caught so they can hold onto their core consumers? Time will tell.
So while it may be palatable to be bored in my VW Tiguan SEL and to even find comfort in that juxtaposed position as a recovering car guy, I'm doing so at price point well south of $80k, which is the ballpark for the BMW X5 XDrive 45e, so maybe that's the rub. For $80k is it acceptable for the consumer to be bored? Maybe that's what BMW and so many of their automotive market brethren are trying to figure out as they mugwump their way into the automotive future with forces that are diametrically opposed to one another.
“I like it, mostly” is not something you want to hear when the price is above $81k
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I own a RAV4 Prime and it has an MPGe of 94 whereas the Hyundai Ioniq 5 AWD has an MPGe of about 98. The MPGe has nothing to do with the gas motor so it’s a pretty good comparison. The Prime was a lot less expensive and I have no range anxiety. It’s a hoot to drive in EV or HV mode. It it stays reliable and inexpensive to maintain, in spite of the complexity, then I think it is a great way to go. The only other PHEV that I know of that is more efficient is the Ford Escape. However that is not AWD.
Volvo "reliability" vs. the BWM B58 engine....Sorry, no contest.
- these two jokers have no clue what the B58 engine is.
Lol. 12:47 - complains about the handling while braking in the middle of taking a curve!
- Clowns !
Good review but but .let's be honest how can you compare this bmw to the volvo they are miles apart in the sense the bmw is far far more superior and powerful .so I'm sorry but when you recommend the volvo I realy fail to see what ur seeing .
It doesn’t matter TestDrive. Those who want BMW image will not want to be seen in/owning a Volvo, 😂!
These guys can’t even take a curve or hold a lane ! Jesus, 😅 what sort of clown reviewers are these two? They keep saying 81K, but skip the M package and massage seats, a fully loaded one with all features can be had for 71K. With eligible Fed / state tax credits, this is first time a vehicle leave alone a BMW can be said as worth every penny paid. When a spartan Model Y would cost you 64K, this is far better.
Keep in mind that our guys often place the car in the lane to benefit the shot instead of the perfect place when the camera isn’t rolling. There’s plenty of content on our original channel to show their driving abilities, so we’re guessing you’ve not seen our work before. We welcome your difference of opinion on any car we test, especially as an owner, but we stand by our comments on the vehicle in the price and spec it was given to us.
@@TestDriveVideos - well then learn how folks like Throttlehouse or Straightpipes or Savagegeese do such reviews. If you are a channel hoping you would also take constructive comments
'22 X5 45e starts at $65.7k. $81k is fully loaded. And no, the Volvo PHEV SUVs don't drive as well as the this.
Hello. You keep compare it to XC90, and with Tesla. Good comparison from a reviewer point of view but not from an owner point of view. Take a look at JD Power and Consumer Reports , at the reliable and customer satisfaction top[ per brands or even on models. Savagegesse channel even describes his XC90 as a vehicle that had multiple problems, with the transmission, solved by dealer under guarantee, and with the infotainment sistem , not solved by the dealer , not being able to solve it. Yes it might be a better driving when it works, and for reviewers , the cars given by the dealers always works, but from the customer satisfaction point of view, in my opinion according to the mentioned tops or information given by the owners, I think that BMW is better. A Tesla owner buy his car from environment reason and how it drives. But a BMW owner , I think that wants his car for electric range if possible but he will stay in hybrid mode , consumption if necessary will not be a problem so , the slow behavior of the car will not be shown. In other markets, regulation is a thing so clients would want the peace of mind regarding that, and the autonomy range of the car in a market that has not so many electric charging stations available in his or her country.
Confusing review and unfortunate. The knock on the "driving feel" because of the Level 2 autonomous driving and vehicle weight because of the battery is silly. And thank you Captain Obvious. People who are buying the X5 45E are interested in the EV hybrid capability. The Volvo is slower, less responsive, less range, and all around worse. Seems like you were purposefully trying to be snarky against BMWs.
Why would anyone expect a 45e to have same aggressive dynamics as the X5M competition…. 🤡
You're right about the whole plug in hybrid thing. Two power trains and loads more weight. It's a nice idea but very flawed
Exactly. Weight is the enemy.
What ? Volvo XC90 is better to drive ? Wow. I traded in XC90 for X5 45e. BMW is much better at handling. Drove XC90 for more than 10000 miles
yes, luxury phevs are head scratchers mainly because they use PREMIUM GAS...so u saved all that money on electric .....only to negate it with stupid ICE efficiency and 20% more at the pump
Seems like these guys were poor journalists and showed some misplaced bias against either the category or any BMW short of M cars. Either way it’s funny how off base they are compared to the rest of auto journalist and owners who RAVE about this rig.
Yikes, totally missed to make on this review. At the end of the day reviews are subjective but the sales figures totally contradict your conclusions. Try to find a used one, last I checked there was 8 45e’s for sale in the entire country. How about the new model? Yeah good luck as if you don’t order it you won’t be finding one.
Thats a ton of money and its heavier than my sequoia.
the electric stuff in this car adds about 250 kg to the cars weight, if you are not planning to use the electric engine you will be dragging 250kg behind you for no reason.
Obviously they dont know what they are talking about , this vehicle is awesome. , its fast , luxurious , powerful. And a bmw , try owning one guys it will change your comical lame point of view
More than anything, we want people to love what they own and drive. You own this, and you love it, congratulations. Thanks for watching!
You guys got many things incorrect. I own a 22 X5 45e. The 30 mile electric is more than enough for your day to day commute. I am getting an average of 800-900 miles for every fill up. Comparing this to Volvo is a joke. Have you guys checked the consumer reports? The software is buggy, infotainment processing delays and their all wheel system is a joke.
Very poor and bias car review. I have owned a Volvo XC90 and traded in for a 2022 BMW X5 45e. I absolutely love it and greatly preferred over the X90 hybrid version (T8). I commute less than 50 km to work but also do a lot of longer range driving (100km +). Even on a 100Km day my mileage doubles, in Hybrid mode. The proof is in my monthly gas bill. I fill up every three or four weeks vs weekly. I do charge every night which isn’t that inconvenience. And yes its not a sporty M car or sedan like however in its price range one of the better performing and handling SUVs.
These guys are to boring!
Terrible review. I purchased the 45e and it is an outstanding vehicle. Look at all the other reviews.
These guys don’t embody “everyday” drivers, they sound like snobby enthusiasts who don’t like hybrids or electrics
We’re guessing this is the first video of ours you’ve seen. Yes, we failed to connect with this BMW, but we’ve praised plenty of them as well as many EVs and Hybrids. In fact, Todd owns a PHEV and we’re finishing a long term series on the new Prius on our original channel Glad you found us and we hope you’ll watch a few more here or at /EverydayDriver.
😂!! There is nothing average about driving, or seen driving a 2019 or later model BMW X5, 😂!!
Volvo is not close to this car, nothing more need to be said.
I own both
Do I have $7500 federal tax credit if l lease the car ??
I believe so.
You guys hilariously don't understand the use case of plug in hybrids. Everyone I know with one prides themselves on not using the gas motor, but also has zero range anxiety for anything longer than their commute.
As for relevance, look at how much Volts are going for used, including the oldest ones. These will be around for a long time, and people love them. The overpriced bmw-ness of it aside, this segment will do well.
We've praised the Volt for exactly what you're suggesting. In fact, we've recommended it to many people on our Podcast. In the case of this car, the cost and benefits don't make it make sense - but that doesn't mean the segment doesn't - nor did we say so. Thanks for watching!
These guys really don’t understand the concept
Disagree
Volvo is not more powerful lol
And you compare it to a Volvo 😢😢😢😢😢😢
Things I don’t like
Very Ugly ,small rims
Small screen on the center console .
Rear seats don’t recline far enough and should be able to slide back and d fourth.
Bring back hump over the wheel well need t come back .!
Bring back runnning boards .
Bring back customization of body parts sand modling
Stop making the x5 exclusively for moms
These fellas seem so smug. Like it’s their job to just look for arbitrary things to complain about. Car reviews don’t have to be all about complaining.
I’m not a BMW fanboy, but I think this is the first and last review I’m watching from this channel.
Annoyingly self-important hosts who like to hear themselves talk and try to sound smart.
We’ve been doing this for 15 years (this is our second and smaller channel) and we point out pros and cons of every car we drive. While some cars don’t resonate with us as well as others (this one didn’t work for us) our body of work is far more positive than negative. Thanks for watching.
Don't buy Volvo, less quality, less service
This video should settle the debate. The X5 45e weighs more than my loaded full-size pickup truck. Without the tax credit (welfare), makes no sense to spend $81k on a heavy hybrid that’s slow in full e mode, has only 30 miles of Electric only, isn’t faster than stock 6 cyl version which costs considerably less. Takes a long time to charge it and it’s not cheap. I’d get the 6 cyl (0-60 in 5.3 sec) with great steering and brakes, or the entry level V8 version for more power. No one wants a white interior.
An insane amount of money for a beyond complex car. The electric charge comes from fossil fuel not angel breath.
Rather have a z4 and a m3 e46 for that money. Way more fun
You guys sound like the legacy auto brands talkings down EVs and being skeptical of how fast things will move. Those companies are starting to figure out they need to change or they will die. If they don’t figure out a way they are going to continue to lose market share as Tesla keeps increasing production by 50 to 100% a year. Besides Tesla the Chinese are going to wreck the system. They have many companies that are already ahead of everyone besides Tesla. The quality is outstanding, the battery and motor technology is outstanding. They also have production capacity and years if not decades of experience. It’s gonna make what the Japanese did in the 70s look insignificant. So the American, German and Asian ICE companies don’t have the choice to extend things out further. Whatever they can’t do will be done by someone else. You guys better figure this out and not think I’m another Tesla fanboy. This is what smart industry people already know is happening now.
We’ve praised many electric and hybrid vehicles on video and recommended many on our podcast. It seems you’ve somehow taken our disappointment in this car as blanket statements.
Worst review of 45e and opposite to ANY review from a reputable reviewer! Volvo ride and interior better than G05 on air and best 6 cylinder today vs 2 liter? 🤡
Terrible biased review....haven't a clue..ffs
In 15 yrs that BMW will be in the junk yard!
lol fr ! if not sooner :/