How to Play Ocarina - Lesson 2 (Part 4 of 14)

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  • Опубликовано: 28 дек 2024

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  • @DavidErickRamos
    @DavidErickRamos  3 года назад +4

    NEXT LESSON ➡ ruclips.net/video/LJHOJNfACx0/видео.html
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    • @templar2341
      @templar2341 3 года назад

      Thanks man for this, im from brazil and i have a ocarina of time, in brazil dont have videos like this, thanks man you are a good teacher

  • @ximenakarimelopez2234
    @ximenakarimelopez2234 4 года назад +97

    Me: plays it terribly
    Him: good job 😌

  • @yekiraclaar2308
    @yekiraclaar2308 5 лет назад +129

    I love this video series. The instructions are very clear, your mannerisms are very professional and each song and exercise is healthily challenging. It's not really complex and hard but you also don't baby me to the point that I feel stupid for being musically ignorant. Even just a couple hours of practice and I can see a difference under your instruction.

    • @DavidErickRamos
      @DavidErickRamos  5 лет назад +19

      Really appreciate that, thank you and glad you find them helpful. I should have the rest of the series up on youtube by the end of February!

  • @mewzetm8928
    @mewzetm8928 5 лет назад +43

    Now these lessons help so much! Especially when playing alone. It's essential to understand timing and breath control, not just where to place your fingers!

  • @musicteacher1981
    @musicteacher1981 5 лет назад +24

    Thank you for this lessons and all your ocarina tutorials. I began with this beautiful instrument a few years ago, but then stop playing because I had a lot of work and also need some guide to play it. I play violin and organ, so no much problem with music theory, but my problem with ocarina was how to breath. Then I discovered your channel and you‘ve been my ocarina teacher since then. I’ve bought your PDF book, so I hope that now I’ll play better this wonderful instrument. I have a plastic Focalink, but also several ceramic ocarinas form Luna Celta, a mexican ocarina maker and are really good option, low price and good quality. Good job and again thank you very much.

  • @Nightmare_vZ
    @Nightmare_vZ 5 лет назад +47

    I learned how to play ocarina a about two years ago, and remember it being hard to maintain the right breath control. After practicing its super easy, and I can hold my breath for a long time. Just practice guys

  • @Kikakowia
    @Kikakowia 4 года назад +9

    I know you all _but_ said it, but I think sheet music newbies might appreciate being outright told that the C actually _stands_ for “Common”! 4/4 time is sometimes actually referred to _as_ “common time,” which is where the use of C as an abbreviation comes from.

  • @stellaalletsable
    @stellaalletsable 3 года назад +4

    I am so uneducated when it comes to music and this is probably the first time in my life that I can read a note. this is very stressful but I feel good when I am practicing new skills

  • @jayzepickle6637
    @jayzepickle6637 2 года назад +4

    I have played Trombone for 8 years and figured I probably wouldn't need a lesson like this for my ocarina since I already knew how to read music but I was so wrong! I absolutely adore these lessons. I especially like how example-focused you are and how you invite people learning to try it themself. I personally don't learn well when a video is just someone talking at you about how to play so this was a very welcome format. :D Awesome job with this series!

    • @weareallpotatos6029
      @weareallpotatos6029 Год назад

      Nah bro same here, I used to play trombone too and now ima play ocarina 😁.

  • @Maui_Fr
    @Maui_Fr 2 года назад +2

    I just bought an ocarina, I've played clarinet for 4 years so I picked it really quick, I'm happy to add a new instrument to my arsenal

  • @fascher_
    @fascher_ 3 года назад +5

    you are an amazing teacher. can't believe It's been about an hour and I already know how to play a song (never touched an ocarina before in my life). wow

  • @thatwildwolf
    @thatwildwolf 3 года назад +26

    *Him:* Good job 😌
    *Me, crying:* how do I lift my ring finger

    • @Xerkies
      @Xerkies 3 года назад +2

      lol it was kinda hard for me

    • @BoBnfishy
      @BoBnfishy 8 месяцев назад

      Glad I'm not alone

    • @Whitecroc
      @Whitecroc 23 дня назад

      Did you ever figure it out? I've noticed that actual agility can vary a lot between hands. My left hand can do things I can't do with my right hand, even though I'm right-handed.

  • @محمدمبروك-ج6ع
    @محمدمبروك-ج6ع 5 лет назад +7

    Thank you, not only for Ocarina tutorial but for helping in music notes
    I'm 25 years old tried a lot before to learn notes but always find it hard & confusing, you are great teacher David not only music player

  • @antjekirsch9391
    @antjekirsch9391 5 лет назад +7

    I’m late to the party, but I now finally got myself an Ocarina!! Your videos help amazingly

  • @clarity256
    @clarity256 Год назад

    I love learning to read music through the book and these videos. Despite I played violin for a couple of years on and off, reading music is the hardest for me. I'm used to playing by ear, tabs, or memorizing the finger positions. I thought I take a step back from my violin to focus on learning to read music with my ocarina collection. Thank you for making this possible.

  • @noellebroughton1120
    @noellebroughton1120 Год назад

    Thank you so much for these videos! I played piano for a year as a kid, and clarinet for a year as well. I've only had my ocarina a couple of days and already feel accomplished because I can play a few of these songs. Your videos are very easy to follow; when need a minute, I just pause and work myself through it. I like how they get just *slightly* more complex as you go along.

  • @marcscheuer530
    @marcscheuer530 2 года назад +1

    I 3D printed myself an ocarina and now im able to play easy songs on an instrument I had no idea existed 2 days ago. funny times to live in

  • @lillyisaacs2929
    @lillyisaacs2929 Год назад

    I already know how to play the flute but my bf can play by ear any string instrument you can think of. I've had a lovely ceramic ocarina for years but never got around to learning or knowing how to start. I wanted to improve as a musician so instead of messing around with it I found this series and I feel like I'm learning so much already. I also feel like I'm learning what I missed out on while starting flute years ago

  • @Whole_Note
    @Whole_Note 2 года назад

    It has been years since I've needed to put any effort into reading music. I'm otherwise a vocalist, so I forgot how much fun it is to dig in to the actual notes instead of just feeling intervals. Plus, it's been really fun going back to bare basics like this.

  • @SteamedToast
    @SteamedToast 4 года назад +7

    The first lesson was really easy for me, but the moment I have to sight read those first five notes out of order, that messed me up. I'm sitting here practicing the order to raise and lower my fingers and trying to tie that to the notes on the staff, and it's brutal! Just gotta stick with it though.

    • @SteamedToast
      @SteamedToast 4 года назад

      I did all the songs! Just reading the sheet music! This is amazing!

  • @bodymindart905
    @bodymindart905 2 года назад +1

    you are a very good teacher. the exercises are effective and increasingly challenging. compliments

  • @marleegould542
    @marleegould542 2 года назад

    I love the lessons so far. Ive never been really good at music, but your lessons are easy to understand and fun. I also was not expecting to learn how to read music as well, which has opened up a whole new world for me that I can explore. Thank you!

  • @craigwilliams9279
    @craigwilliams9279 4 года назад +1

    I love this.
    I don't have an ocarina yet, but I started learning the tin whistle a while back, and most of the tutorials I am finding use tabs. Those are great, but I want to be able to read the music as well, so I am really appreciating what I am learning here.
    Now I am just waiting for my ocarina to arrive.

  • @echonuim
    @echonuim Год назад

    Not sure if youre still active, but these are great. They bring me back to learning the saxophone for band class in middle school

  • @hazehoney42
    @hazehoney42 4 года назад +5

    why do I still feel encouraged when he says good job even though I'm just watching a video and he can't hear me

    • @noahjones9943
      @noahjones9943 9 месяцев назад

      Because he has teaching in his blood

  • @ryanman56
    @ryanman56 4 года назад

    Thank you so much for these lessons! I've gone from not knowing the first thing about playing the ocarina to making some nice sounds and playing along with sheet music! Playing along with you has been super helpful as well in getting the timing right!

  • @melissashipman4340
    @melissashipman4340 Год назад +1

    42 and learning ocarina in 2023. I took piano lessons when I was a kid so the brush up on theory has been helpful. Moved through the videos up to this one yesterday but I’ll be staying on this one for a few days. The base of both thumbs are aching though. Any exercises that I can do to help with that? Seems like a bit of an awkward was to hold and I’ve probably got a death grip on it while playing still lol

  • @Navoii.
    @Navoii. 3 года назад +4

    I AM LETTING HIM PLAY THE PLAY- ALONG PARTS ALONE TO MAKE HIM LOOK LIKE A *F O O L*

  • @demignz
    @demignz 4 года назад

    I love your lessons. I got to know the ocarina because of your Instagram and TikTok account. Before that I didn’t even know that there’s an instrument called ocarina. And now I decided to learn this beautiful instrument myself and I cannot describe how lucky I was when I saw that you even have an RUclips account where you teach how to play the ocarina! You are such a good teacher and you are describing everything so well and it’s so easy to follow you. Thank you so much for your efforts and help!!

  • @liloa3222
    @liloa3222 4 года назад +129

    The more I play the ocarina the more I realise I’m just playing a fancy recorder

    • @ZodiacEntertainment2
      @ZodiacEntertainment2 4 года назад +30

      Ocarina is an ancient instrument, so you're actually playing an 'old fashioned' recorder!

    • @calyps0rion
      @calyps0rion 4 года назад +11

      @@ZodiacEntertainment2 an old fashioned fancy recorder

    • @c.h.r.i.s.t.i.n
      @c.h.r.i.s.t.i.n 4 года назад +7

      The more I try this G to A business the more I miss playing my recorder. They sound the same honestly so I can pack my pretty little ceramic ancient instrument away and pull out my recorder from 3rd grade. I cam play that like a pro!

    • @DavidFletcher08
      @DavidFletcher08 4 года назад +4

      Actually you aint wrong
      There was a time they use to teach kids to play the ocarina in school instead of the recorder like the do now

    • @skysomnia9544
      @skysomnia9544 4 года назад

      You mena Ancient chonk recorder?

  • @drummer8902
    @drummer8902 4 года назад

    Just got a bug to buy an Ocarina one day. So far I've really been enjoying it and your lessons are helping a lot! Keep doing what you're doing!

  • @K_spawn
    @K_spawn Год назад

    Broo thank you! I didn't know you put these on! I'm taking the dust off my ocarina now

  • @gideonebeling
    @gideonebeling 3 года назад

    I just got an ocarina for Christmas and these videos are really helpful. I feel like I’ve already got a decent handle on this!

  • @JorgeJimenez2020
    @JorgeJimenez2020 4 года назад +2

    Hey good classes, your method is very smooth and easy to follow.

  • @sonofAnonymous
    @sonofAnonymous 3 года назад

    This is such a challenge for me, but it's a great new frontier to experience. Thank you for sharing!

  • @karinarodriguez1754
    @karinarodriguez1754 4 года назад

    Thanks for the help, professor! My hands hurt now from gripping so hard (rookie mistake) but I'm having a lot of fun. Following along w the book is perfect!

  • @Sydella3
    @Sydella3 Год назад

    I am learning so much!! loving these lessons!!

  • @brandonrasmussen3641
    @brandonrasmussen3641 2 года назад

    Loving this so far as a first time player. Thanks!

  • @nanfesii
    @nanfesii 3 года назад +6

    Lesson 2 Video: 14:mins
    Me practicing lesson 2: 1 hour😅

  • @OcarinaBoy
    @OcarinaBoy 5 лет назад

    Hi David, I really appreciate all of your hard work, you're the one who thought me playing the ocarina a few years ago! Thank you!

  • @nicoelgreeko
    @nicoelgreeko Год назад

    I'm learning lots of things! Things like I don't think I'm able to learn these notes. Or that I die a little each time you say "Good job" when in fact, the job, was not good.

  • @justsomeguy2849
    @justsomeguy2849 5 лет назад +7

    You should do Silhouette by Kana-Boon (Naruto op 16)

  • @leovinusdark1679
    @leovinusdark1679 5 лет назад

    Thank you very much for your tutorial series. It helps me a Lot to understand and learn playing the ocarina ❤. Your videos are great to learn from the beginning. Thank you very much and greatings from germany 👍

  • @georgenicolassarantopoulos7568

    We love these videos really!!! You are amazing please don’t ever spot!!!!!!!😊

  • @Varaldar
    @Varaldar 3 года назад

    Coming off playing trumpet I'm getting the fingerings quicker than I'd thought. Low C is all closed instead of open. d on ocarina is the same as D flat on trumpet, E is the same, F is the same, G is the same. (With all left fingers down)

  • @datspud_6036
    @datspud_6036 5 лет назад +2

    Just got mine yesterday, had watched your older videos when I was looking to buy, but am using these newer ones for practice along lessons. I seem to have a hold a little off since my left pinky and thumb are cramping after only 30 minutes of practice and was wondering if there's any advice to help

  • @ArksylGaming
    @ArksylGaming 2 месяца назад

    I repeated London bridge is falling down probably 3 or 2 and a half hours just trying to perfect it
    At first I thought my ocarina is falsy but I trained to make the good sound that you make in the video I was getting to go crazy just trying to make a full perfect London bridge 😂

  • @burakkaya3874
    @burakkaya3874 6 месяцев назад

    Was really helpful and fun, thank you!

  • @Lafayette92
    @Lafayette92 4 года назад +1

    For some reason, I have been able to follow along with the sheet music as I have played in the previous lessons, but when playing London Bridge, I found it impossible to concentrate on so many notes while playing... it will probably just take more practice but i admit that it was frustating lol

  • @KEOKOsensei
    @KEOKOsensei 4 года назад

    Is there any way to order hard cover book? Would really enjoy to be able to practice outside and not be dependent on using my phone. I truly enjoy these lessons! Brings back fond memories of concert/marching band for me.

    • @DavidErickRamos
      @DavidErickRamos  4 года назад

      I have a few physical books available (while supplies last), but currently only doing domestic shipping. daviderickramos.com/store

  • @PopExtra
    @PopExtra 4 года назад

    thank you. this really makes me good at playing i just got my Ocarina today and it was really fun that you helped me. and it was just so fun!: D

  • @skjaldur
    @skjaldur 5 лет назад +5

    where do you get that shirt?? love it.

    • @Navoii.
      @Navoii. 3 года назад

      you dont

  • @meagankeele2835
    @meagankeele2835 4 года назад

    Would the digital download of your book work on a phone? Or would you need a tablet?

  • @graysonsoldahl
    @graysonsoldahl 3 года назад

    Thanks for making these!

  • @leslieladyhawke
    @leslieladyhawke 5 лет назад

    My fingers get tired! Haha. Thanks for the awesome teaching!

    • @DavidErickRamos
      @DavidErickRamos  5 лет назад +1

      If it’s from the weight of the ocarina, it should hurt less with time, but feel free to take breaks when you need to, and remember you do not need to squeeze the holes to cover them. That puts unnecessary strain on your fingers.

  • @argonwheatbelly637
    @argonwheatbelly637 5 лет назад

    How much written music is there for the ocarina? The recorder has nearly 900 years of it, so I would think this would make a nice addition to an ensemble. Excellent lesson!

  • @kymaeraa
    @kymaeraa 2 дня назад

    I'm getting a bit stuck on the A, cause with the same grip I just straight up get a different note. I only get the A when I lift my pinky up as well. Anyone know what's going on? Cause the other grips and notes were the same as the video, so it can't be a tuning thing

  • @xxxyyy4740
    @xxxyyy4740 4 года назад

    I bought American Okaryna (8 whole, 1 on underneath and 7 on). What's the finger chart and notes? Can you send it on one picture? Can you help with it?

  • @AprendeConAnder
    @AprendeConAnder 5 лет назад

    waiting for the next lesson!

  • @-.-George-.-
    @-.-George-.- 5 месяцев назад

    I almost laughed midsong when I realized I had spent Two minutes trying to understand a Song, and It was fkng Twinkle Twinkle Little Star 😅😂😫

  • @papadelicious4108
    @papadelicious4108 4 года назад

    my ocarina only matches his pitch when i'm playing one note higher than he is. is my ocarina out of tune, or in a different key?

  • @tiberiu_nicolae
    @tiberiu_nicolae 2 года назад

    I'm waiting for my ocarina to show up so I'm doing this on my xaphoon haha

  • @isaiahalba9280
    @isaiahalba9280 5 лет назад

    loving the videos!

  • @PopExtra
    @PopExtra 4 года назад

    me watching tv and the tv station breaks: 6:40
    lol XD sorry for the ears.

  • @Binkus_.
    @Binkus_. 3 года назад

    Can we follow our own notes sometimes the songs get to tricky?

    • @DavidErickRamos
      @DavidErickRamos  3 года назад

      I suppose so, but if your goal is to read sheet music, it’s best if you try to play the notes as written

  • @DanielOliveiraViolao
    @DanielOliveiraViolao 5 лет назад

    Thank you! That's help a lot!!!

  • @TikkaQrow
    @TikkaQrow 2 года назад

    yee this one i could follow on F keyed ocarina XD (presses random holes until the same notes come out)

  • @hugofontes5708
    @hugofontes5708 4 года назад

    can't quite hear the metronome on the A note exercise :/

  • @thevirtueoflove3935
    @thevirtueoflove3935 5 лет назад

    When introducing the a pitch, you said, "...left pinky, we are going to skip over that, and lift up our |right| ring finger..." when it was actually your left rinh finger. Then later you said "left ring finger." Just letting you know.

  • @danielsjohnson
    @danielsjohnson 4 года назад

    Good video. I have a problem but it's not with you.
    Playing ocarina is confusing my muscle memory of playing viola in middle school and high school years ago. On viola putting down fingers increases the pitch but on ocarina putting down fingers decreases the pitch. So when I'm playing London Bridge at full speed my fingers reflexively sometimes go "the next note is higher so put down more fingers" which leads to wrong notes. Or no notes because my fingers and brain are going opposite directions.
    Update: so far, my solution is to practice playing the C major scale (he teaches it in a later video) and repeatedly learning which fingerings are which notes.

    • @rustynailinyourfoot
      @rustynailinyourfoot 4 года назад

      Same with me. I play the violin currently, and im learning the ocarina as well... My muscle memory is making me confused ngl

    • @eyoas577
      @eyoas577 4 года назад

      Well thats sucks

  • @polettyy
    @polettyy 5 лет назад

    Ehy, can you suggest me a good but cheap clay ocarina (possibly under 30)

    • @DavidErickRamos
      @DavidErickRamos  5 лет назад +6

      Most good ceramic 12 hole ocarinas start around $40, but this one would be a good buy: www.stlocarina.com/night7.html
      If you don't need a 12 hole, there are some ceramic 6 hole ocarinas that sound beautiful for around $25: www.songbirdocarina.com/collections/pendant-style-ocarinas/products/seedpod-ocarina-alto-c-in-midnight-black

  • @therandomdaysofmylife2462
    @therandomdaysofmylife2462 5 лет назад

    David please visit philippines

  • @КоржАлександр-й8д
    @КоржАлександр-й8д 4 года назад

    I want ebook, i mean pdf, because i leave in another country

  • @DaniPlays-q6f
    @DaniPlays-q6f 6 месяцев назад

    why are all the ads right when he says play its killin me

  • @AlbertoCiarrocca
    @AlbertoCiarrocca 5 лет назад

    I highly recommend to NOT follow these advice about “right support fingers”: embracing/grabbing the ocarina with right fingers might seem comfortable but it’s a defect in playing ocarina, it affects your agility and speed but most importantly it affects the intonation on the higher notes.
    It’s comfortable but it’s not good, and it’s perfectly possible to not use them just by getting used to it

  • @atanas1817
    @atanas1817 Год назад

    Dude I have no rythm and the very first part is really hard
    for me, but I want to learn

    • @DavidErickRamos
      @DavidErickRamos  Год назад

      Keep at it! It might be helpful to pause the video on each exercise to just focus on reading the notes before working on the timing. I think it’s a little easier with the book as well so you can go back and forth between exercises.

    • @atanas1817
      @atanas1817 Год назад

      @@DavidErickRamos thanks for that, I didn't really expect you to respond. I was homeschooled and my mom didn't have a musical background, so all I have are these videos. But I plan to learn sheet music and to play by ear so I can learn some worship songs

  • @williamhandlebar9585
    @williamhandlebar9585 5 лет назад +1

    Love this series! Only one tiny thing that I didn't like on this one was that arrow that was under the music. Very distracting for a beginner, my eyes kept trying to follow that instead of my ears to time.

  • @calarom
    @calarom Год назад

    i cant move my left ring finger. i think i never tryed

  • @delave_mirage9605
    @delave_mirage9605 4 года назад

    Me thinking that twinkle twinkle little star was old McDonald had a farm

  • @PercabethYessss
    @PercabethYessss Год назад

    Not my ocarina not sounding right after a while and i figure its cause of spit accumulation? Is that a thing, like it sounds like a raspy old man 😂😂

  • @BlackDragonWitheHawk
    @BlackDragonWitheHawk 4 года назад

    breathing is my biggest problem and hand posture 🤔

  • @awesomenokes
    @awesomenokes 5 лет назад

    I'm learning that my Ocarina from Wish is too high and too small

  • @soslothful
    @soslothful 5 лет назад

    Hummmm. You show a physical copy of your book but when I checked your shop it states it will not be available till February! What is the real status?

    • @lordniloc101
      @lordniloc101 5 лет назад +1

      You'll never know bwahaha

    • @soslothful
      @soslothful 5 лет назад

      @@lordniloc101 I'm a Luddite who doesn't want a download copy. I want a paper and ink REAL book. It is curious David does not reply to the inquiry.

  • @Blooddreamer
    @Blooddreamer 3 года назад

    Daaavid I’m failing you! I still can’t read sheet music! I can’t even tell what the notes are still..

    • @cheydawggenius9513
      @cheydawggenius9513 3 года назад

      Just keep practicing. I'm still figuring it out too. 'FACE' helps me for the notes between the lines. If nothing else, start by knowing where the C note is on the sheet. next up above that and below the first line is D. The first line with be E. Then, this is where FACE comes in. Every note between each line will be F, A, C, E.
      SO, going up the lines. It goes C, D, E, F, G, A, B, C, D, E, F, G
      Usually, once I figure out the first note on the sheet, I can figure out the rest by seeing whether they go up or down the lines and following the order.

    • @Blooddreamer
      @Blooddreamer 3 года назад

      @@cheydawggenius9513 thank you! I’ll try my best!

  • @MixalisRed7
    @MixalisRed7 4 года назад

    Thanks for the lessons! I have been stuck at ex 2.2 for an hour. I must be retarded or something as I find it really hard, and i always manage to screw up one part or another. I mean this is supposed to be a 14 minute lesson (30 tops if you pause a lot etc) and here i m at the 3rd minute mark, for an hour.. I feel so bad :(.

    • @DavidFletcher08
      @DavidFletcher08 4 года назад +1

      Dude don't feel bad
      I've been repeating all of lesson 1 for 2 weeks before I felt comfortable moving on to this video
      Only to immediately get stuck at Ex 2.2 lol
      Everyone learns at a different pace. And the awesome thing about it being a video is you can practice as much as you want/need before moving on!
      You'll get there :D

    • @MixalisRed7
      @MixalisRed7 4 года назад +1

      @@DavidFletcher08 Yeah dude you are right.. I don't feel bad with my self anymore, especially since this eas my first contact with a musical instrument. Everyone has a different learning pace.. Keep at it, you will get there eventually(extra kudos if its your first instrument as well) ! I managed to get to the later lessons but i had to repeat many sections and work on my own pace. I had to stop playing through since i had to join the army(its mandatory to serve in the army for 9 months here...).

  • @James_is_emo
    @James_is_emo 2 года назад

    Why am I getting anxiety when playing like you are silently judging me.

  • @hendrikbue18
    @hendrikbue18 3 года назад

    My Ocarina is so small that my pinki slide away every time I want to play 😑

  • @Aliseelike
    @Aliseelike 5 лет назад

    Am I the only one?! ... your c is actually my d in terms of how it sounds from my ocarina.

    • @MixalisRed7
      @MixalisRed7 4 года назад

      Maybe your ocarina is tuned differently

  • @whenacatgoesonyoutube6195
    @whenacatgoesonyoutube6195 5 лет назад +2

    I first

  • @lordniloc101
    @lordniloc101 5 лет назад +2

    David needs his green screen privileges taken away after the last video.

    • @olive4naito
      @olive4naito 5 лет назад +1

      He was clearly intoxicated with NyQuil and alcoholic tincture. I doubt it will happen again! 🙄

    • @soslothful
      @soslothful 5 лет назад

      Green screen is a right, not a privilege.

    • @olive4naito
      @olive4naito 5 лет назад

      @@soslothful 😂

    • @lordniloc101
      @lordniloc101 5 лет назад

      @@soslothful memeation without representation is tyranny

    • @soslothful
      @soslothful 5 лет назад

      @@lordniloc101 Tyranny rules!