Kurt Hugo Schneider here on RUclips does that with basically everything and it's really cool. He has lots of videos of "Remaking [Song Title] but I can't leave [Store]" and they're loads of fun
Natalia's guitar playing really sells the idea of a wild western feeling. Just a few people hanging out by the campfire, bored, until someone comes out with a guitar and a saw.
And yet she can still intuitively play along with him enough to make music. I guess some level of musical understanding can translate to any instrument.
@@ryanmccampbell7 I think Rob himself is living proof of that. His being humble helps too, but his general knowledge of music really shows in all of these videos.
@@willowtree-qd2de sine wave is the mathematical name for a pure tone. Like what you get when playing a single note on the piano, minus all of the subtones. Lots of good youtube videos exist explaining what subtones are.
the whole idea of common objects being used as instruments has always fascinated me. I remember the moment I found out that my computer CPU cooler could play all the notes from A5 to D7 by twanging the fins, I spent hours every day trying to play songs on it which completely destroyed my fingernails
Glad to see someone doing this properly. I love weirding people out on site when they ask to borrow a saw and I ask them what key they want it in before I stat "tuning" it with the handle of a mallet. Terrible for the saw, but great for laughs.
@@pointysidedown If there's any real difference between sustain and resonance, I've never been made aware of it. I would argue that sustain and reverb are both types of resonance, myself, but maybe there is a more succinct difference.
@@Goldnfoxx you could be right, I always thought sustain was used to describe the quality of resonance and had not heard it used interchangeably for the resonance itself. Reverb is definitely a type of resonance imo.
An then you notice that she's wearing old school Tripp pants from Hot Topic, such an oddity and truly special. I loved this one way more than I would have thought at first glance.
@@Woodsaras in this world, you define yourself with self-expression, and individuals attempt to convey a lot with the deliberate choice of what they wear. Some social scenes are more defined by fashion than others, the hot topic mall goths were largely defined by their "look" so if someone's "look" matches a bit of that, then someone might comment. Why question the importance of her identity expressed through her choice of clothing?
@@AdamOwenBrowning if fckng rags you wear are 'selfexpression' you should try and read some fckng books for a change. Such a fckng low bar these people have. Pathetic.
That was super-cool, though -- trust him to come up with a completely new extended technique that's actually valuable on something he's never touched before.
That kind of blew my mind, the first electrical music instrument was a theramin... was replicating a musical saw. Therefore the Theramin was an electric saw (1919), 4 years before the electric circular saw (1923)
As a pianist, it gies me great joy to see an instrument that would be even harder to get on a plane. Seriously though, this is one of the coolest interviews you've ever done. She is AMAZING, and that sounds so cool -- almost theremin-like.
Quick Question for ya, did you make the comment before she mentioned the Theremin was apparently created to mimic the saw? Edit: Whether that's true or not I'm not sure
I once took my musical saw on a plane and it was... disturbingly easy. Just don't bring it in the cabin, and you won't even get questions. So yeah, it'd reckon piano is much harder and more expensive to bring on a plane than the saw.
I love her face in the very beginning. She looks so genuinely perplexed at why everyone would freak out over her playing a basic scale. It's like she has no idea how incredible it is that she just played a perfect scale on a carpentry tool.
She looks like she had an awesome time. Love seeing these musicians warm up to Rob after they see that he really wants to learn more about something they love.
Sometimes my favourite part about these videos isn't even the instrument, it's the people playing the instrument. Natalia is not only an excellent saw player, she's also just a great presenter. She has equal parts knowledge of and enthusiasm for her craft.
Absolutely, they were all just vibin' & having fun, learning from each other in equal measure. 😄 (Also hi, fellow raocow fan! It's a small world, hehe~!)
A family friend ( in Brazil ) played Jazz Saw. ,often while dancing and singing in French ,English ,Portuguese, and Spanish. Very popular at the clubs . Also was a PhD in GEOLOGY .
Probably made more money in his music as a hobby, as well as enjoyed it ❗ I would know as my half Brother did so as an Abstract Artist & Pr' Eng whilst i went thru the pains of B.Arch. M.Phil., PhD (Bld' Sci) i'm now having more fun as a " Bladesmith "..❗🙇♂️
Since it's basically a sine wave with very little for overtones, it would be really great to see how an ensamble of saw players could harmonize with them.
So, to my knowledge the Theremin fell into obscurity, and was rediscovered by horror flick directors. Using it to create creepy and eerie sounds to better suit their projects.
Crazy how her saw playing has led her away from the idea of set keys and scales since the semitones aren't a linear progression of a single variable for her; to get from one note to another involves tweaking enough variables that it's not even worth thinking of things in terms of set scales. She seems to have developed insane muscle memory to find the right sound she wants on the saw, and combined it with perfect pitch hearing. Jamming for her must be such a cool experience, like dancing to the other instruments instead of thinking about the scale and "I IV III IV" type stuff. Rob's a legend for not only given these people a platform but being so damn talented himself that he can really show us how they think and work relative to other musicians.
You know what's ironic? You wouldn't write this kind of wank for a fretless guitar or a trombone even though a lot of what you said would still apply. You realize instruments without predetermined intervals are common, right? Most of your comment honestly doesn't even make sense. Microtonality doesn't mean chords and intervals don't matter. It could actually make it matter more, since you're using unorthodox intervals, which matters more than actual pitches/frequencies. It's the ratio/intervals that give the chord its sound, NOT the notes/frequencies. That's why 432hz songs still sound musically coherent when it's "out of tune." The intervals between notes are still the same. The only possible exception I see is if you have perfect pitch.
On one of their first dates, my grandparents realised that, even though they grew up eleven years apart (with a war in between) and in different cities, they had the same music teacher who would play bis musical saw for them. A few decades later, my aunt met the guy at university and told him the story. When he died, she inherited the saw from him.
Thanks to Ms. Paruz for devoting so much of her time and effort to mastering this quite difficult and demanding instrument. Without her, and others like her, the skill -- even the idea -- of playing music on a handsaw would disappear.
the Apprehension Engine made by film composer Mark Korven & luthier Tony Duggan-Smith incorporates a saw as well as other instruments Mark Korven uses in horror film sound design into a sort of one man band contraption which he uses in The VVITCH & the recent Black Phone.
So this is cool. I am a carpenter and we used to play the saws all the time by just doing the s curve thing and bowing it back and forth. We were just playing around at work and having fun. I did not know this was a thing with bow and mallet. I will have to dig out my old saw. Really enjoyable. Thanks
not only did i just learn that you can play a saw as an instrument, but my goodness her vibes are so good. i truly believe that making music out of seemingly 'random' objects is the peak of humanity. like good cooking and music. that's human nature imo
Where you create the bend is where it creates tension and the note stops vibrating, you're basically creating a guitar fret where you make the bend to control the pitch, so awesome!
I love how there will always be the moment, where rob just begins slapping each instrument with his thumb and surprises the experts with a new cool technique
I literally went out to our garage, grabbed a 20" saw, a foam bat with plastic tips, and just started playing. She explained what to do so well that I actually got some good sound, although it didn't sustain too well so I couldn't play anything
The diagonal twist she mentions that "avoids glistening" articulates the notes similar to tonguing reed/woodwind instruments. Very neat. Cool video. Talented saw lady.
@@poppinlochnesshopster3249 The creator of the Theremin, Leon Theremin, actually created it on accident while working for the Soviets trying to develop a new spying gadget. He actually also made a spying radio without a microphone that he put in a carved wooden decoration which he gave to the American embassy. It sat in their office for years spying before anyone found it.
I used to make a joke when playing my saw that is was in the key of C, i.e a C-saw. But yes it is easy to find the note you want if you have a good ear for the melody you want to play.
I love that this isn't some "novelty", but the range and sound of the Saw is genuinely beautiful!? This is perhaps the closest I've heard a non-electronic instrument mimic the human voice and I can see it harmonize with a singer ALSO, a 30 minute video never drew me in so fast!!! First time watching anything from this channel and I got sucked in immediately!!! Great job!!!
@@pl_by In the video Natalia says the theremin was the first electronic instrument and it's sound was based on the saw to a large degree, and the commenter you replied to said 'non-electronic'.
i didnt even notice that the video was 30 minutes it felt more like 8 minutes and now im itrested in playing the saw even tho i never evn seriously picked up a instument
I am a stage actor and performing in the play "Elizaveta Bam" (directed by Oskaras Koršunovas) in St. Petersburg (Russia), and there we use musical saws in conjunction with the theremin. Sounds divine!
Initially remember the Russian school girl playing Rammstein song on a saw in an orchestra and thought that was basically it, but I guess nice to see people fooling around (well, kinda cause have to be careful with, but also mastering) it :)
My Dad plays saw. Completely self taught. Played at my wedding! I tried a couple of times. So fun! He didn't have a fancy one. Just a functional saw and a pliers to hold the end
This was so cool! Watching her play it is so entertaining. She SOUNDS like she's been playing it for a while, but the joy in her face LOOKS like it's the first time she discovered it!
And one day we will die and our ashes will fly from the aeroplane over the sea, but for now we are young let us lie in the sun and count every beautiful thing we can see love to be in the arms of all I'm keeping here with me
Having made a few steel drums the S curve of the saw makes a lot of sense. You also need that curve around each note in the steel drum to get them to ring. The real skill in steel drum making is getting the harmonic notes to be in tune, which in this case I guess you can just avoid playing.
@@NonEuclideanTacoCannon No I haven't made a video about it. If you Google "steel pan tuning" the top result should be the Stockholm steelband website linking to an excellent ebook on the subject.
@@Nighthawkinlight - that's a very cool insight! Thanks for sharing about the S curve thing in steel drum. I love the types of people this excellent interview is bringing out to the comments 👌
She's enthusiastic to teach and he's an insightful and quick learner. It's so fun watching them and learning how many ways they can get a sound from it. At the point where they exchanged instruments, i really felt like i attended a funeral
Beautiful..this takes me back 60 years in my life when i for the first time heard a Family of four give a complete symphony on Saws with a Bicycle Air Pump thrown in as a type of Flute..what an experience, never to be equalled until now..thank you to the Team..❗ You're Musical Darlings, Genius's..❗ Shalowm..❗🤗🙇♂️👍🏻
I know NOTHING about music as far as notes and all that but am finding your channel extremely entertaining I love it. You and her both extremely great personalities I love it.
This continues to be one of the most wholesome, joyful, and rich series I've seen on RUclips. The whole production is just such a celebration of music, the people who love music, and especially the conversation of music that is something truly timeless and part of the human experience. Thank you so much for these moving moments.
In my personal experience, people who learn one skill quickly will usually learn most skills quickly. It's also possible that this is somewhat of a learned trait, and given that i'm pretty sure Rob was already a multi-instrumentalist by the time he started doing youtube, it's not surprising to me that he is a quick learner.
Man, I love humans. We're so weird. Shoutout to sawmakers -- it is not trivial to get steel to behave itself when you bend it around like that! So much incredible talent on display.
My dad has played the musical saw for decades, and it's such a cool instrument. He does a great rendition of Somewhere Over the Rainbow. There are a few videos of him performing it and other songs here on RUclips. He goes by Reggie Miles if you care to look it up.
Just did! Amazing stuff. Beautiful playing, and if I'd found your dad's videos before this, I would have had NO idea how that worked. Thanks dude! Such an excellent choice of song for that (which I now know is a totally legitimate) instrument!
@@kattakid9884 well yeah, on a RUclips channel someone had a video of her play but no I haven't seen her in person. She seems like she would be a lot of fun though. ruclips.net/video/lPvTTc7jAVQ/видео.html
@@mortenrl1946 yes it is. I know a guy who used to play one and he was really good at it, but she takes the cake LOL she really makes that things scream. I like the way she said it cuts through LOL
I really dig the "new instruments for both musicians" experience, both of them seemed to be having a lot of fun! And then they went straight to Morricone
There's the scene in Tarzan where Terk and her friends come across the camp set up by Jane, the father and Clayton, and discover the ability to play music with all the various items around! Comes pretty darn close.
When they played You Are My Sunshine, I thought she was singing and only the strokes were the saw. I didn't realize _that whole melody was just saw._ Incredible! The saw as an instrument has always reminded me of the high lonesome prairie. It really does make you feel as though you're on a cattle drive with howling coyotes in the distance. An awesome acoustic precursor to the theremin!
I love how in depth she was explaining how everything works, I can't tell you how many teachers I would see skim over the details making the explaination boring and confusing
Rob is so good at these interviews, he seems genuinely interested, and keeps things fun, while making the musician feel comfortable around. So satisfying
He has a deep understanding of musical theory, which makes it a lot easier to pick up an instrument. If you know how to make a note, and then how to go up and down from there, you can play in instrument, you just need to practice the dexterity. The theory can do a lot of the heavy lifting when learning an instrument.
@@Z3DT I've also found that those who learn one skill quickly will usually learn most skills quickly, even if they are quite unrelated. Myself as an example, I've done all sorts of things in my life from music to martial arts to mechanics, pretty much anything I want to do, I can gain a base level of competence in very little time. The impression I get is that Rob is like that too, he just happens to do mostly musical stuff with that excellent ability to learn.
She is AMAZING. She makes this thing sing like a human! Kind of like a "poor man's Theremin." And I love her wonderful smile just as much as her playing. Btw, I watched the movie "Cabaret" last month, and I wondered what instrument the band was was during one of the numbers, and now I realize what it was. It was a saw!!
Rob, whatever you're making off these videos, it isn't enough. These videos you do, collectively, are some of the BEST MUSIC EDUCATION I've ever had in my life. Like a music documentary series? Amazing stuff my friend. Me and all my buddies who play pass your videos around. We sincerely appreciate you making these, brother!
I love how they're both taking a step into each other's worlds. "How long have you been playing guitar?" "About five seconds!" 😄😁 Pure wholesome goodness
This channel is amazing, I never knew anything about the theremin or the saw, and now I am fascinated about these incredibly sounding instruments. Great work!
It's so cool how she was picking up on the guitar and even doing the tapping thing as quickly as he was picking up on the saw. Like they each gave eachother mini lessons about their own instruments, though the lesson about the Saw was obviously more indepth. She seems like such a passionate and excellent teacher!
Natalia is so enthusiastic about the music and her energy is so beautiful in her own way. This is probably one of my favorite instruments you've learned so far Rob!
The business with the talcum powder is called "Chladni patterns", and the lines where the powder stays are really where the sound is *not*. It's a classic acoustics demonstration, and I, as a physicist and a musician, got really excited when you decided to try it out.
Every instrument in the music world today was invented because of someone who fiddled with a thing for a few minutes longer than anyone else
“Fiddled with a thing”
Heh
Kurt Hugo Schneider here on RUclips does that with basically everything and it's really cool. He has lots of videos of "Remaking [Song Title] but I can't leave [Store]" and they're loads of fun
@@syberyah yooo, have they done plastic and blowing the edge of it yet?
So if I fiddle with my...... Nvm, I dont think this comment is it! 🙏
Played them like a damn fiddle.
*pulls out a drill* "you know, I'm something of a musical carpenter myself"
No matter how much attention this comment gets it’s STILL underrated 😆👏🏼
This comments should be top comment
Mysteryguitarman has you covered with his dubstep power tools video.
Brilliant
I saw what you did right there...
The saw is eerily vocal, it almost sounds like a wailing sound. Its so pretty and haunting.
Just like the wailing of your victims when you saw them in half.
@@omg.mesohungry bro
@@Fernisvale Fr that's kinda fucked. Mine usually just shriek like a banshee.
It reminds me of cartoonic spooky ghost sounds
Shame the bowing sound is so ugly :(
Natalia's guitar playing really sells the idea of a wild western feeling. Just a few people hanging out by the campfire, bored, until someone comes out with a guitar and a saw.
Next up I want to see if she can figure out how to play a gun. XD And a whip! Haha!
Its sounds like an old record of a woman singing, its trippy… the closest to human voice from an instrument i’ve heard.
That's cause you never heard what a theremin can do
@@amandasouza6595 Jesus pfp
@@zermanman9891 Hell yeah
@@amandasouza6595 yeah, it sounds like theremin
@@amandasouza6595 in this video she explained that they designed the theremin trying to mimic the saw
I like how she's a virtuoso on such an unusual and uncommon instrument but an ordinary acoustic guitar is alien to her :D
Uncommon? i got 3 different sizes of that instrument in my tool cabinet!
@@GashimahironChl Hah!
And yet she can still intuitively play along with him enough to make music. I guess some level of musical understanding can translate to any instrument.
@@ryanmccampbell7 I think Rob himself is living proof of that. His being humble helps too, but his general knowledge of music really shows in all of these videos.
i am pretty sure she can pick up the guitar within a few days of playing.
I'm really impressed by how precisely she can control the pitch of the saw!
very, very good ears
You're looking at expert playing
Than you should see Rob's video about theremins, there is needed some expert body control!
@@mj_awesome8925 I was gonna say, really reminds me of the theremin, except that in the case of the saw you're actually touching something
Muscle memory is a hell of a drug
i love that it only resonates when creating the "S" curve and essentially has the timbre of a sine wave
What’s a sine wave
@@willowtree-qd2de its the wave that is created by using a sine function
@@OneFreeway And what’s one of them
@@willowtree-qd2de I cannot show you an image here, google it
@@willowtree-qd2de sine wave is the mathematical name for a pure tone. Like what you get when playing a single note on the piano, minus all of the subtones. Lots of good youtube videos exist explaining what subtones are.
the whole idea of common objects being used as instruments has always fascinated me. I remember the moment I found out that my computer CPU cooler could play all the notes from A5 to D7 by twanging the fins, I spent hours every day trying to play songs on it which completely destroyed my fingernails
It really is quite fascinating,who knows,maybe every everyday obects you see in your life might be an instrument
YO DAPZ SUP
Isn’t that how it was done in the past?
Show us
Wow dapz is here.
This is the cutting-edge musical technology I've been wanting
This is the kind of pun to set my teeth on edge. 😬
But yes, I saw what you did there.
@@a-s-greig Brooo 😂
I'm gonna just cut to the chase here; these puns are pretty metal dude, they're jagged, not to mention how sharp they are.
Best comment ever
LOL 😂, Dude , Nice Pun
When Rob plays, it sounds like a drunk theremin.
When she plays, it’s art.
🤣🤣🤣
The sound totally reminded me of a theremin, too.
Rob has transferred the guitar faces to the saw Lol
haha! I love how as soon as he started playing percussively at 22:55 it just sounds so much better because Rob is incredible :')
Still sounds better than when he tried an actual theremin
Glad to see someone doing this properly. I love weirding people out on site when they ask to borrow a saw and I ask them what key they want it in before I stat "tuning" it with the handle of a mallet. Terrible for the saw, but great for laughs.
It's not just loud, it sustains WAY longer than I'd expect.
I love how none of these comments actually claim that it sounds good
I think thats called resonance
@@pointysidedown If there's any real difference between sustain and resonance, I've never been made aware of it. I would argue that sustain and reverb are both types of resonance, myself, but maybe there is a more succinct difference.
@@Goldnfoxx you could be right, I always thought sustain was used to describe the quality of resonance and had not heard it used interchangeably for the resonance itself. Reverb is definitely a type of resonance imo.
@@thomasjohannesen1003 it sounds good
I don't know why this lady just makes me smile. she's really got a special charisma
An then you notice that she's wearing old school Tripp pants from Hot Topic, such an oddity and truly special. I loved this one way more than I would have thought at first glance.
@@nobodyspecial115 why does it matter what she is wearing?
@@Woodsaras people like clothes, and a lot of people liked those clothes in particular. common interest thing
@@Woodsaras in this world, you define yourself with self-expression, and individuals attempt to convey a lot with the deliberate choice of what they wear. Some social scenes are more defined by fashion than others, the hot topic mall goths were largely defined by their "look" so if someone's "look" matches a bit of that, then someone might comment.
Why question the importance of her identity expressed through her choice of clothing?
@@AdamOwenBrowning if fckng rags you wear are 'selfexpression' you should try and read some fckng books for a change. Such a fckng low bar these people have. Pathetic.
Things Rob will try to do on everything instrument he encounters:
1° Tapping
2° Slapping
3° Vibrato
Shredding?
4° Djent
That was super-cool, though -- trust him to come up with a completely new extended technique that's actually valuable on something he's never touched before.
5. Harmonics
There’s a lot of joy in this video. I love how they both enjoy playing each other’s instruments and are both natural musicians
I love how Saw Lady is just as bewildered by the concept of a guitar.
I already.. saw this
You can't make guitar without a Saw
@@Aditya-ok3myWell I mean a file and way too much time can probably work too
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I see what you did. 🙂@@petrstorch8858
That kind of blew my mind, the first electrical music instrument was a theramin... was replicating a musical saw.
Therefore the Theramin was an electric saw (1919), 4 years before the electric circular saw (1923)
Too bad the Theramin made a sine wave not a saw wave
@@Idiomatick Haha, clever. Have a like :)
Maybe the inventor of the circular saw, heard a theramin and thought "electric saw" and a few years later power tools :P
The first instance of an electric saw was an unlucky lumberjack in a thunderstorm.
No
As a pianist, it gies me great joy to see an instrument that would be even harder to get on a plane.
Seriously though, this is one of the coolest interviews you've ever done. She is AMAZING, and that sounds so cool -- almost theremin-like.
Thank you for your kind words! You are right about airplanes... At JFK airport they made me demonstrate, to prove it really is a musical instrument :)
Quick Question for ya, did you make the comment before she mentioned the Theremin was apparently created to mimic the saw?
Edit: Whether that's true or not I'm not sure
On the other hand, its a instrument readily avaiable anywhere in the world LOL
I think the glass armonica is also up there.
I once took my musical saw on a plane and it was... disturbingly easy. Just don't bring it in the cabin, and you won't even get questions.
So yeah, it'd reckon piano is much harder and more expensive to bring on a plane than the saw.
Her energy is infectious!
I love her face in the very beginning. She looks so genuinely perplexed at why everyone would freak out over her playing a basic scale. It's like she has no idea how incredible it is that she just played a perfect scale on a carpentry tool.
I love how proud of herself she was for "it cuts through"
That was a quick pun, she's keeping herself sharp 😌😂
That pun had teeth for sure.
999 likes now lol
She looks like she had an awesome time. Love seeing these musicians warm up to Rob after they see that he really wants to learn more about something they love.
I'd love to see a video where the musicians don't warm up to him lol, he's such a likable guy.
@@DD-ym3nk That'd be depressing, in a way
@@DD-ym3nk it would take a massive asshole to do that. I choose Yngwie Malmsteen
@@DD-ym3nk it’s not an instrument video but wax cylinder guy seemed like he really did not like being there
@@dizzoooo-l4p lol
It's just so satisfying to watch two people REALLY passionate about music in a room together
Sometimes my favourite part about these videos isn't even the instrument, it's the people playing the instrument. Natalia is not only an excellent saw player, she's also just a great presenter. She has equal parts knowledge of and enthusiasm for her craft.
Saw with acoustic guitar is like a perfect duo for an old American folklore music imo
you might like Neutral Milk Hotel, especially their ‘In The Aeroplane Over The Sea’ album
America has a folklore music? are you sure what does it means?
@@andrejnovak are you being serious?
@@andrejnovak Blues, bluegrass, country, and folk music.
This was common in Europe going fat back btw, was actually used in Folk
I love that she wasn't taking it too seriously, explaining things when there were genuine questions but also happy just to laugh along :)
Me too. She seems like a fun human to be around. A great match for Rob's particular combination of curiosity, musicality, and joviality.
The opposite of smug classical violine Players are sawplayers, it seems. Lol
Absolutely, they were all just vibin' & having fun, learning from each other in equal measure. 😄
(Also hi, fellow raocow fan! It's a small world, hehe~!)
@@ZaCloud-Animations___she-her Ooh, hello! :O
A family friend ( in Brazil ) played Jazz Saw. ,often while dancing and singing in French ,English ,Portuguese, and Spanish. Very popular at the clubs . Also was a PhD in GEOLOGY .
Probably made more money in his music as a hobby, as well as enjoyed it ❗
I would know as my half Brother did so as an Abstract Artist & Pr' Eng whilst i went thru the pains of B.Arch. M.Phil., PhD (Bld' Sci) i'm now having more fun as a " Bladesmith "..❗🙇♂️
Since it's basically a sine wave with very little for overtones, it would be really great to see how an ensamble of saw players could harmonize with them.
You should get your hearing checked.
You should get your ego checked
@@jakegreene4313 it's so full of overtones
I would say it’s more of a saw wave
@@TheTimN8er nice
A horror game composer needs to make a theme song for a killer that uses saws and she does all of the song's sounds with saws.
_[furiously takes notes]_
It would cut through the sound of the victims screams
Chainsaw man?
@@kqlolll2618 no
So, to my knowledge the Theremin fell into obscurity, and was rediscovered by horror flick directors. Using it to create creepy and eerie sounds to better suit their projects.
Crazy how her saw playing has led her away from the idea of set keys and scales since the semitones aren't a linear progression of a single variable for her; to get from one note to another involves tweaking enough variables that it's not even worth thinking of things in terms of set scales. She seems to have developed insane muscle memory to find the right sound she wants on the saw, and combined it with perfect pitch hearing. Jamming for her must be such a cool experience, like dancing to the other instruments instead of thinking about the scale and "I IV III IV" type stuff. Rob's a legend for not only given these people a platform but being so damn talented himself that he can really show us how they think and work relative to other musicians.
it seems a lot like singing or whistling to me
@@6xten both requires good ears also. i really envy people who were able to do that
Saw and Theremin!
You know what's ironic? You wouldn't write this kind of wank for a fretless guitar or a trombone even though a lot of what you said would still apply. You realize instruments without predetermined intervals are common, right?
Most of your comment honestly doesn't even make sense. Microtonality doesn't mean chords and intervals don't matter. It could actually make it matter more, since you're using unorthodox intervals, which matters more than actual pitches/frequencies. It's the ratio/intervals that give the chord its sound, NOT the notes/frequencies. That's why 432hz songs still sound musically coherent when it's "out of tune." The intervals between notes are still the same. The only possible exception I see is if you have perfect pitch.
But she doesn’t have perfect pitch. A lot of notes sound terrible.
My grandfather played the saws as well as many other instruments. Any time I hear the saw it brings back so many fond memories.
rob scallon makes some of the best content on this platform. hands down.
Easily, it's amazing the people he manages to talk to. He needs to have a production company back him and make a sick series
@@veenoir1991 i'd love to see that
personally i think he would work well with the team over at Dropout
@@audih0e ngl that'd be pretty based. The creative control he would still have would ensure it still feels like Robs content too.
You just gotta love him
He's almost like the Tom Scott of music.
Right around 18:00 and on. You can plainly see these are both natural musicians. Playing completely alien instruments together with grace.
On one of their first dates, my grandparents realised that, even though they grew up eleven years apart (with a war in between) and in different cities, they had the same music teacher who would play bis musical saw for them. A few decades later, my aunt met the guy at university and told him the story. When he died, she inherited the saw from him.
Who's cutting onions
@@joeh858 Probably the aunt that has the saw.
This needs to be a movie
I farted.
Amazing I have a slight similar story my guitar teacher is my co workers grandad and I did not know that until I met him at work
Thanks to Ms. Paruz for devoting so much of her time and effort to mastering this quite difficult and demanding instrument. Without her, and others like her, the skill -- even the idea -- of playing music on a handsaw would disappear.
I would love to hear this as a part of a horror game's musical score. Definitely a more body horror, lovecraftian themed one.
The film Delicatessen uses it, the Main character plays it. Strange movie for sure.
Try outer wilds-Echoes of the eye.
Not pure horror but it's an amazing game, play without spoilers.
the Apprehension Engine made by film composer Mark Korven & luthier Tony Duggan-Smith incorporates a saw as well as other instruments Mark Korven uses in horror film sound design into a sort of one man band contraption which he uses in The VVITCH & the recent Black Phone.
Re make the saw theme with it
A bunch of abberant minions merrily playing saws after a mass homicide haha
the way he was so eager to learn and the way she gently taught and praised him with it. its so wholesome, i love this video so much
i wanna like this comment but it's at the nice number, so instead ill just agree, big wholesome and kinda made my night tbh
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You should make an album with all of the people you've met In this series!
I love this
1000% agree.
Featuring the theorbo, the hurdy gurdy, and the organ from the 4th Presbyterian in Chicago, among others
100% support
Yes, there needs to be an orchestra with all of these instruments.
So this is cool. I am a carpenter and we used to play the saws all the time by just doing the s curve thing and bowing it back and forth. We were just playing around at work and having fun. I did not know this was a thing with bow and mallet. I will have to dig out my old saw. Really enjoyable. Thanks
not only did i just learn that you can play a saw as an instrument, but my goodness her vibes are so good. i truly believe that making music out of seemingly 'random' objects is the peak of humanity. like good cooking and music. that's human nature imo
All instruments exist because someone messed with something a little longer than everyone else
@@EroticAlmondHate it when people tell other people to “stop playing around” when that’s literally what caused all of humanities progression
i love that youre making the instrumentalists play along on the guitar as well. its always fun to see them try new things too
is this the real terezi pyrope⁉️⁉️⁉️
I love the koto video for the same reason
The saw almost gives off a theramin sound, how remarkable of an instrument!
I was thinking by it reminded me a lot of the theremin
Funny enough in the video they say that the Theremin was actually based on the sound of the saw
That many people didn't watch the video all the way through. 👀
Tell me you commented before finishing the video without telling me you commented before finishing the video
It’s the acoustic theremin and the theremin the electric saw lol
Where you create the bend is where it creates tension and the note stops vibrating, you're basically creating a guitar fret where you make the bend to control the pitch, so awesome!
If you know the album “The Aeroplane Over The Sea” by Neutral Milk Hotel, this instrument is actually a prominent sound in most of the songs.
the only reason i know of the saw is julian koster
@@Synthulhu the only reason most of us do
Was starting to get worried nobody was going to mention this its such an important part to that amazing album
so THAT was that noise
Ohhh wtf I didn't know this. Have listened to it so many times
I love how there will always be the moment, where rob just begins slapping each instrument with his thumb and surprises the experts with a new cool technique
Even the masters have something to learn.
Then just slices his thumb off
haven't see him slapping the glass armonica tho
Except for the glass bowl organ, of course.
Almost as dangerous as the musical Bean Blade
I literally went out to our garage, grabbed a 20" saw, a foam bat with plastic tips, and just started playing. She explained what to do so well that I actually got some good sound, although it didn't sustain too well so I couldn't play anything
Leave it to 049 to have a 20" saw at the ready
Garage? Did you really breach containment for a saw to play?
@@Rabid_Nationalist In fact I did. The one in my bag didn't work as well as I hoped, I suppose Bone Saws aren't great for music.
I love how it sounds like it's both whistling and howling at the same time. Beautiful:)
You're great as always. But she is incredibly refreshing. Her energy is just incredible. Her personality is just amazing.
I’ll be telling your lass you said that
yea i love her alot
Lmao
The diagonal twist she mentions that "avoids glistening" articulates the notes similar to tonguing reed/woodwind instruments. Very neat. Cool video. Talented saw lady.
She's saying "glissing," as in "glissando," but yes.
@@elixiriszog I assume it was autocorrect.
My P-chem book had different nodes demonstrated on a drum head. That and about 3/4s of the Schrodinger's equation is all I remember from that book.
Wow, she plays SO in tune! Amazing! Like a acoustic theremin!
She mentions in the video that the creator of the Theremin was trying to recreate the sound of the saw. 16:25
@@poppinlochnesshopster3249 The creator of the Theremin, Leon Theremin, actually created it on accident while working for the Soviets trying to develop a new spying gadget. He actually also made a spying radio without a microphone that he put in a carved wooden decoration which he gave to the American embassy. It sat in their office for years spying before anyone found it.
I used to make a joke when playing my saw that is was in the key of C, i.e a C-saw. But yes it is easy to find the note you want if you have a good ear for the melody you want to play.
Natalia is such a beautiful soul, love her child like wonder and enthusiasm she has, great video
Dude, she plays a saw! That's friggin' METAL! That's like playing a Bass Boat or a Pickup Truck.
Took me three readings to not think "opposite of a Treble Boat"
lol it is metal
@@birdfacemd LMAO
it took me a second to realize you meant "metal" in the metaphorical sense
I love that this isn't some "novelty", but the range and sound of the Saw is genuinely beautiful!? This is perhaps the closest I've heard a non-electronic instrument mimic the human voice and I can see it harmonize with a singer
ALSO, a 30 minute video never drew me in so fast!!! First time watching anything from this channel and I got sucked in immediately!!! Great job!!!
What about theremin?
Daxophone is actually similar to saw in some ways. And also sounds like human voice!
@@pl_by In the video Natalia says the theremin was the first electronic instrument and it's sound was based on the saw to a large degree, and the commenter you replied to said 'non-electronic'.
agree
i didnt even notice that the video was 30 minutes it felt more like 8 minutes and now im itrested in playing the saw even tho i never evn seriously picked up a instument
I am a stage actor and performing in the play "Elizaveta Bam" (directed by Oskaras Koršunovas) in St. Petersburg (Russia), and there we use musical saws in conjunction with the theremin. Sounds divine!
I thought of the theremin when she started playing the saw!
Electric Saw and acoustic saw?
Initially remember the Russian school girl playing Rammstein song on a saw in an orchestra and thought that was basically it, but I guess nice to see people fooling around (well, kinda cause have to be careful with, but also mastering) it :)
Omg this lady's soul is so vibrant, I love it
Absolutely..👍🏻 she is so alive & beautiful in every sense of the word..both two beautifull young people..❗
Love um..❗🙇♂️🤗
25:13 newest addition to the Sca-Taylor line? It's even more pointy than the guitar or the drum kit
Dude! It’s even got that tone-rust! Nice low-end 😎
I hope they dont just buy a saw but they make it themself from scratch haha
If it was genuine sca-taylor it would have the teeth on both sides
Arguably the guitar was more dangerous xD
wait a minute now. your name just stood out. love your channel bro
My Dad plays saw. Completely self taught. Played at my wedding! I tried a couple of times. So fun! He didn't have a fancy one. Just a functional saw and a pliers to hold the end
Rob's vids are just the best
will you concede me this dance?
sup checkmark
Damn right
@@IDK-kg9yr how have you never heard of him?
yeah... yours ok, too.
love that woman's energy. she's a great teacher too
This was so cool! Watching her play it is so entertaining. She SOUNDS like she's been playing it for a while, but the joy in her face LOOKS like it's the first time she discovered it!
They used musical saws in the album “In the Aeroplane Over the Sea”. Which I think is pretty cool.
And one day we will die and our ashes will fly from the aeroplane over the sea, but for now we are young let us lie in the sun and count every beautiful thing we can see love to be in the arms of all I'm keeping here with me
The Music Tapes does too! That’s the project of some of the old Neutral Milk Hotel folks, and they use them to gorgeous effect
The intro music of "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest " is a musical saw
Holes by Mercury Rev uses one in a beautiful way
Such a beautiful album
Having made a few steel drums the S curve of the saw makes a lot of sense. You also need that curve around each note in the steel drum to get them to ring. The real skill in steel drum making is getting the harmonic notes to be in tune, which in this case I guess you can just avoid playing.
What would happen if you put a saw blade on a steel drum? Have it welded and sanded to near perfection?
Is that somewhere on your channel? I've always wondered how they were tuned.
@@NonEuclideanTacoCannon No I haven't made a video about it. If you Google "steel pan tuning" the top result should be the Stockholm steelband website linking to an excellent ebook on the subject.
I bet a steel drum & saw ensemble would sound fantastic
@@Nighthawkinlight - that's a very cool insight! Thanks for sharing about the S curve thing in steel drum.
I love the types of people this excellent interview is bringing out to the comments 👌
"Drill doesn't make for a good instrument" sounds like you're issuing a personal challenge to Venjent 😂
19:40 them playing sounds like a western with sci-fi influences it’s actually incredible
steel ball run theme
I love how joyful she is to play the saw. There's an artist who really loves her very obscure craft.
She's enthusiastic to teach and he's an insightful and quick learner. It's so fun watching them and learning how many ways they can get a sound from it.
At the point where they exchanged instruments, i really felt like i attended a funeral
Beautiful..this takes me back 60 years in my life when i for the first time heard a Family of four give a complete symphony on Saws with a Bicycle Air Pump thrown in as a type of Flute..what an experience, never to be equalled until now..thank you to the Team..❗ You're Musical Darlings, Genius's..❗
Shalowm..❗🤗🙇♂️👍🏻
I know NOTHING about music as far as notes and all that but am finding your channel extremely entertaining I love it. You and her both extremely great personalities I love it.
This continues to be one of the most wholesome, joyful, and rich series I've seen on RUclips. The whole production is just such a celebration of music, the people who love music, and especially the conversation of music that is something truly timeless and part of the human experience.
Thank you so much for these moving moments.
true, while other youtube musicians are all about the meme factor, this and Adam Neely actually teach you new stuff
It's contagious to see people moved by their passions. Music is fundamental and you're spot on, this series just gets it.
I think its pretty crazy how every time Rob does one of these videos even the expert is impressed by how quickly he picks things up.
In my personal experience, people who learn one skill quickly will usually learn most skills quickly. It's also possible that this is somewhat of a learned trait, and given that i'm pretty sure Rob was already a multi-instrumentalist by the time he started doing youtube, it's not surprising to me that he is a quick learner.
Man, I love humans. We're so weird. Shoutout to sawmakers -- it is not trivial to get steel to behave itself when you bend it around like that! So much incredible talent on display.
The massive smile on her face is so contagious! I love the sound of this!
My dad has played the musical saw for decades, and it's such a cool instrument. He does a great rendition of Somewhere Over the Rainbow. There are a few videos of him performing it and other songs here on RUclips. He goes by Reggie Miles if you care to look it up.
Just did! Amazing stuff. Beautiful playing, and if I'd found your dad's videos before this, I would have had NO idea how that worked. Thanks dude! Such an excellent choice of song for that (which I now know is a totally legitimate) instrument!
did you show him this video?
I thought you were joking
just listened to him play. your dad is awesome!!
Its also in the Oasis video for Wonderwall theres a scene of people playing the saw
This is the same woman I saw sitting in the subway playing the Star Trek theme a few years ago. Awesome! I love this woman.
You SAW her
@@kattakid9884 well yeah, on a RUclips channel someone had a video of her play but no I haven't seen her in person. She seems like she would be a lot of fun though.
ruclips.net/video/lPvTTc7jAVQ/видео.html
She's been around on youtube forever. Remember seeing her forever ago. A real OG, sounds great as well. Saw is difficult!
@@mortenrl1946 yes it is. I know a guy who used to play one and he was really good at it, but she takes the cake LOL she really makes that things scream. I like the way she said it cuts through LOL
I really dig the "new instruments for both musicians" experience, both of them seemed to be having a lot of fun!
And then they went straight to Morricone
This lady shows us what is most important about music; having _fun_ !
i cant be the only one imagining a disney like scene where carpenters realize their tools can make music and all break out into song 😭
There's the scene in Tarzan where Terk and her friends come across the camp set up by Jane, the father and Clayton, and discover the ability to play music with all the various items around! Comes pretty darn close.
@@venusianary8466 woah :0
Look for a Band named "all sounds allowed"
soul eater pfp
I like that the cameraman participates in the conversation. That alone gives another dimension to the video.
Love this ongoing documentary on obscure and forgotten instruments. Thank you.
The first song they played filled me with nostalgia, this is now my favorite video.
what song is it
When they played You Are My Sunshine, I thought she was singing and only the strokes were the saw. I didn't realize _that whole melody was just saw._ Incredible! The saw as an instrument has always reminded me of the high lonesome prairie. It really does make you feel as though you're on a cattle drive with howling coyotes in the distance. An awesome acoustic precursor to the theremin!
Hey, aren't you that one I see in Drew Durnil's comment section all the time?
I actually love the tone she gets out of it while playing softly. I love these dives into more obscure instruments. Thx Rob.
I love how in depth she was explaining how everything works, I can't tell you how many teachers I would see skim over the details making the explaination boring and confusing
the saw and the guitar together is so beautiful i need to hear more
The joy on both your parts is simply infectious. I couldn't stop smiling throughout most of the video.
:)
Rob is so good at these interviews, he seems genuinely interested, and keeps things fun, while making the musician feel comfortable around. So satisfying
Her smile is so contagious!
It was only towards the very end that I realized the bits with him on the saw and her on the guitar were giving me Outer Wilds vibes.
I loved hearing this live from our apartment upstairs when Rob was in the house and I am LOVING seeing it now. Great work, Rob & Natalia!!!!!
Every time Rob tries a new instrument he gets a "Youre a natural" from the professional player. Rob is easily one of the best musicians ever
He has a deep understanding of musical theory, which makes it a lot easier to pick up an instrument. If you know how to make a note, and then how to go up and down from there, you can play in instrument, you just need to practice the dexterity. The theory can do a lot of the heavy lifting when learning an instrument.
@@Z3DT I've also found that those who learn one skill quickly will usually learn most skills quickly, even if they are quite unrelated. Myself as an example, I've done all sorts of things in my life from music to martial arts to mechanics, pretty much anything I want to do, I can gain a base level of competence in very little time. The impression I get is that Rob is like that too, he just happens to do mostly musical stuff with that excellent ability to learn.
that's a ridiculous claim but I see where you're coming from
@@reaganharder1480 I completely understand what you're saying because I have that same ease of learning for most things.
They should make an open air concert for saw, theremin, and glass armonica. Maybe that will summon some aliens. It'll be great!
At the end of the concert a spaceship arrives and an alien comes down all enraged saying:
👽: Ok, who's the one saying those expletives about my mom?
@@Nolroa And all the human spectators go "Oh, wow! That sounded beautiful!"
Glass harmonica??? 😮
Something new to discover.
@@klarag7059 There is a video about it on this very channel 🙂
Giant head in the sky appears:
"Show me what you got"
She is AMAZING. She makes this thing sing like a human! Kind of like a "poor man's Theremin." And I love her wonderful smile just as much as her playing.
Btw, I watched the movie "Cabaret" last month, and I wondered what instrument the band was was during one of the numbers, and now I realize what it was. It was a saw!!
Rob, whatever you're making off these videos, it isn't enough. These videos you do, collectively, are some of the BEST MUSIC EDUCATION I've ever had in my life. Like a music documentary series? Amazing stuff my friend. Me and all my buddies who play pass your videos around. We sincerely appreciate you making these, brother!
“Saws made for music” is the coolest phrase I never could have expected to hear.
I love how they're both taking a step into each other's worlds.
"How long have you been playing guitar?"
"About five seconds!" 😄😁
Pure wholesome goodness
This channel is amazing, I never knew anything about the theremin or the saw, and now I am fascinated about these incredibly sounding instruments. Great work!
It's so cool how she was picking up on the guitar and even doing the tapping thing as quickly as he was picking up on the saw. Like they each gave eachother mini lessons about their own instruments, though the lesson about the Saw was obviously more indepth. She seems like such a passionate and excellent teacher!
Natalia is so enthusiastic about the music and her energy is so beautiful in her own way. This is probably one of my favorite instruments you've learned so far Rob!
She has a fantastic personality
She picked up the guitar absurdly fast
The business with the talcum powder is called "Chladni patterns", and the lines where the powder stays are really where the sound is *not*. It's a classic acoustics demonstration, and I, as a physicist and a musician, got really excited when you decided to try it out.
I can't remember the history but I believe Fourier demonstrated this to Napoleon.
The scientific name of this phenomena is Cymatics
A saw sounds like a ghost wailing out a song. I love it.