Get EXCITED About TF2's Summer Update
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- Опубликовано: 30 июн 2024
- Summer? I hardly know her!!
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Are you excited about the update?! Or more pessimistic?
And what was your favorite Summer update in the past?
I'll always be super nostalgic for the Uber Update.
More pessimistic since they removed the “who knows what else?” I took that as more contracts,events,unique hats like Hat of Undeniable Wealth.
But i guess it will only be an crate update with some maps..
I only started playing in I think 2021 because that's when I got my computer. since then I've logged close to 2k hours in tf2. one of my favorite games, and I really want it to be so good it blows all expectations, but I know realistically that it'll probably only be one half-step above standard
pessimistic
Rly excited cause i started just after jungle inferno dropped, so its gonna be - wait fuck this means i have to update my hud :( - my first actual update (blue moon kinda counts ig).
Nothing was more hype than the Uber Update.
Regardless of an update or not, it’s still amazing that the community is alive, kicking, and just as passionate as ever.
Of course it is, dying is gay after all
@@SomeGuyWithABlueMask if dying was gay the entire TF2 fandom would be dead
Its pretty dead by now
Unlike OW lmao
@@CBRN-115 tf2 players are so salty they will always take easy jabs at any game that isnt the great tf2, grow up dude
Let’s just hope it won’t disappoint by being a crate update
It probably will
It will be.
It won't be.
Correction: A CRATE would be cool, since it would mean new Stranges.
I LOVE CRATES❤❤❤❤ 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
The last time we had a balance change officially was during Blue Moon, so I'm definitely not expecting any given the wording of the update, but this is the most active/excited I've ever seen the TF2 community and at the very least we've got content creators excited for it.
It's unrealistic to expect item/class balance considering the TF2 "team" is probably 2 people. Sure, we can hope, but balancing stuff requires a gameplay designer, and I doubt there's any left.
@@thesucc990 the problem is that tons of weapons could use minor changes, decrease the amount of charge you lose when you get hit with the baby faces blaster, reduce honk much cloak disguising costs with the your eternal reward, give the sandman a melee swing speed debuff and take away it's health penalty, triple the charge time on jarate, decrease weapon switch time on pro's jetpack, general tightness increase on heavy's minigun so his best DPS option for even both guns being revved isn't the mobile minigun, give the red tape recorder more health to counteract the longer time it needs to so its job, making it a weapon you bring to get a sentry open to attack then an attempt to kill it, give sentries that have a sapper on them get seen through walls, and I could go on for days
@@calebbarnhouse496 Again, these may seem like minor changes to you, but game balancing is never easy nor is it taken lightly, no matter how small the changes are.
Balance is especially hard when it comes to multiplayer games like tf2, because there are many variables you have to take into account, and more often than not, it requires direct feedback from players. At this point I think we all know how much communication there is between us and Valve.
@@thesucc990 no, you don't get to say that truth is balance is ass, improve small shit, there is no other way it will get better
@@thesucc990 Bit then again things like Fish on a stick's gameplay balance server works fine. If community creators who don't get paid can do it, why can't people who actual do it for a job do it?
To me it feels like Valve are thinking of treating TF2 the way they treat Steam overall; Valve just needs to clear it for it to go up. I like the system, and seeing as TF2 is 15 years old I'm okay with it being supported more by the community rather than the company.
I'm glad you got the channel fixed and are feeling better! You've been my favorite TF2 channel since like 2015. So, like, half of TF2's life ago I guess. Good stuff!
7:18 “I’ll keep my expectations extremely low”
Also after breakfast “GET EXITED FOR THE SUMMER UPDATE”
Shrodingier's tf2 hype
"Holiday-sized update"
This killed all my hopes for the next update
As the old saying goes with Valve:
"If you always keep your expectations EXTREMELY low you're never gonna be disappointed."
As far as I'm concerned, in terms of content, getting even one thing extra than what we'd normally expect from a typical summer update is awesome, and was always the reason for my excitement of the announcement, regardless of the edit in the blog post
Now... what I'm ACTUALLY pessimistic about is the bots. They're not too bad on other gamemodes, but they've been ravaging CTF for all of the times I've tried to play there, and if the latter half of Smissmas was anything to go by, they can shift their focus to destroying the update-specific maps whenever they please. If that happens, regardless of what they add to the game, it's gonna be unplayable, and that's gonna suck.
At least bug fixes and the likes would technically affect the game as a whole, so that would be nice, but... man, if the bots are just as bad as they were in Smissmas I'm gonna be super bummed
Oh hey! It's the smash trivia guy!
I know some of the bugs they can fix would reduce the impact that bots can have on the game. But if we want the bots to be neutered, valve is going to need to put some dedicated effort in.
Of course, we could ask valve to do something rather cheeky and make it so that players will accidentally snap their own necks if they turn more than a certain number of degrees within a game tick. Would be funny if a bunch of bots joined and all of the sudden you see *"[insert bot name here] turned around too fast"* in the kill feed.
Yeah, I've tried to play 2fort a bunch of times in casual and it's almost always a bot wasteland- other game modes seem to be doing better which is good, but ctf is still a part of the game and it sucks that the bots have pretty much taken over there :((
Two things we're guaranteed to get in this update:
1. New maps
2. New cosmetics
Two thing I REALLY hope to see done and done well:
1. HUGE bug fixes, not just in normal gameplay but especially in MvM
2. Decent balance changes that actually give the bad weapons reasons to be used
we are going to get payload maps with enormous sightlines
Balance changes especially. Playing on a rebalance mod server, with sensible changes with actual thought put into them, has breathed new life into the game for me, especially considering weapons such as the BFB, Natasha, Scorch Shot, and Cleaner’s Carbine
Third guaranteed thing:
Updated localization files.
@@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413 every payload map has terrible sightlines its not a map problem its a gamemode problem
@@cowboysfan1996 Not really?
You could use a Strange Count transfer tool to add the kills of your strange weapons to the decorated strange ones.
and they're cheap too!
Even if it's not as big as a major update, I do hope that we do get some balance changes to some weapons and I will be pleased if they just do that!
Exactly this, I don't care if we're not getting some massive themed update that we got in 2015-17, some balance changes every summer to effect some weapons to either improve, nerf, or test ideas is the major thing we need.
Out of subject, but nice sniper icon, mate :D looks cool!
You are a god amongst men ❤
@@damnedtosuffer666
I must ask, do you know the legendary Stickmaster500?
For he appears in every comment section of every TF2 video.
And I hope that this is the start to a long line of updates to come.
How can I get excited when all TF2 does is make me sad?
dont be sad
Get glad!
Get MAD!!
I DON’T WANT YOUR DAMN LEMONS WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO WITH THESE?!
I feel ya dude... I feel ya...
I kinda want more story related stuff than anything else, TF2’s characters have fantastic personalities and valve has just absolutely WASTED that
there is the comics, but...yeah.
Comics 💀
Shoutout to the final issue of the comic that never came out
Vs Saxton Hale being added in would be the major uptate we didn't knew we needed.
As someone who joined shortly after the meet your match update and missed being present for the jungle inferno update because I was like 13 at the time, having this update be even somewhat good will be amazing because I've never gotten to experience an update that wasn't just 'uPdAtEd ThE lOcAlIzAtIoN fIlEs'.
I am taking a TF2 break until the summer update, gonna be real fun coming back to the game with new maps to play!
Honestly, this is one of the more reasonable things to expect. 90% of the Tubers keep trying to hold out hope that it'll be something more, even a little more, when realistically it's probably jsut going to be maps, skins and cosmetics. Maybe a small handful of community fixes, but that is so vague it could mean anything and there's always a chance nothing comes from it.
@@Vaniity_Velvet New maps in the general pool is honestly a big deal to me, it brings a lot of variety to casual, as long as they are good of course.
Also I absolutely wouldn't mind a rebalance update, we haven't had one since Blue Moon
@Vaniity_Velvet You were ON THE DOT, extremely lackluster and basically bug fixes so useless they might as well not even exist
I'm honestly the most excited for the community fixes. New maps are awesome but it's not like I can't just play the cool custom maps right now. My mods folder is absolutely FILLED with fixes for visual bugs but they don't work in casual. The community has really been pulling their weight submitting these bugfixes for the update too and I hope that Valve *actually* considers them this time. The fact that the gibs and Ubercharge textures are still using temporary beta textures over 15 years after release is absolutely insane
EDIT: you brought up engie's uber lol
I did not catch that they edited the blog post, so thanks for pointing that out. I honestly forgot about the update until this video popped up in my feed, but I remain cautiously optimistic, same as when they announced it.
Glad you're back! Your voice and energy is just such a perfect fit for the environment of TF2.
I’m extremely excited, more than I should be. TF2 is extremely important to me, I love this game and want it to flourish. I hope we get a good update.
Damn sorry dude, looks like it's a complete flop
Therapy/support group talk for long-suffering TF2 fans.
-validate thoughts and feelings. It’s OK to feel _____ about (Valve, TF2’s future, …)
-validate all possible viewpoints of the upcoming update
"But this year, we're planning on shipping a full-on holiday-sized update"
I hope the idea of you kick starting an enormous community movement and perhaps being the reason we even get an update of this kind this year keeps your spirits up.
I think if VALVᴱ adds the Vs. Saxton Hale Vscript as a gamemode (most likely in the extras section like mannpower and PASS time), it would be very interesting on how the update would be
Aw man, that’s scary I didn’t even know you were hacked, but glad you got your channel back
1:34 Nitpick here but an important rule when making a pool; Don't influence the pool by putting your own opinion in the prompt.
*slams book* "Like thats ever gonna happen."
I'm honestly just expecting a hat crate and a war paint case. Maybe two or three maps.
Obviously I hope we get more than that, but after they changed the blog post to lower expectations I think we shouldn't expect much.
It’s good that you finally got your channel back, squirm.
Good to hear you're doing better, I was worried we lost you. You make good stuff!
I literally have no expectations about this update so whatever comes will surprise me. I've seen my friends getting overhyped for something that ended up being utterly disappointing enough times to stop getting hyped altogether, but who knows what will happen once the update drops?
Bots are no longer a problem unless you're playing CTF on maps like 2fort. Besides that seeing a bot in casual on say Dustbowl or payload maps is pretty much nonexistent.
valve changing the blog post was them trying to be more transparent and more accurate with what they say. for a decade we've been asking them to be more transparent and when they finally do the community loses their shit
Stealth changing the blog post without making any other comments about it isn't being transparent...
Its damage control after seeing the reaction to the initial post.
If you hadn't seen the original post you'd have no way of knowing it was edited. Or if you read it when it came out you likely wouldn't have known it was changed unless someone else told you.
Welcome back Jim, always thanks for the filling video mate!
As a resident of everyone's favorite non-nuclear wasteland, Arizona, this is the only time I've ever been excited about the coming of summer.
So exited for 187 new hats that don’t fit the games aesthetic and a non-play tested map! In all seriousness, if we do actually get something like balance changes and the pressure gauge for the Dragons Fury I’d be pleasantly surprised.
The only balance change they should bother with is reversing everything Blue-Moon did. The Vaccinator wasn't busted as shit, Phlog's didn't infest every pub and the Vita-Saw and Syndey Sleeper were still viable. (There are others, those are the just the main ones off the top of my head.)
Was wondering why you hadn't posted in a while, welcome back!
WELCOME BACK!!! PWP,,,
I was so scared when I saw that your channel was hacked!!
Glad everything worked out
TF2 community try not to set yourselves up for disappointment challenge
I'm cautiously optimistic about it. Glad you got your channel back quickly!
I'd honestly be very happy if this was an update focused on major and trivial fixes. This update would be an excellent time to implement such a massive fix.
9:00 SquimJim is now a confirmed walkaholic. We're all praying for your wellbeing, brother.
Welcome back man, good to see ya again
Coming from someone who joined post jungle inferno, I am kind of excited about this update, as I have no idea what those major updates were like. So being able to have a small version of one is kind of exciting lol
Same
I seriously feel sorry for you, I played since 2008 and seen the game grow and prosper. Anyone who plays post jungle update missed out on it’s golden age in the early 2010s. It’s like you joined the party when it was long over hours ago and you get footed the bill.
@@Labyrinth6000 Those were good days. I ended up leaving after meet your match.... I think TF2 stopped being the old TF2 then.
You're videos are always my favourites out of anyones, so don't worry and always prioritise your mental health above all. Glad you're feeling better
I personally kept myself in-check even from the original blog post, since I figured it would likely be some community stuff like hats and maps like always, but primarily focused on dealing with bots or making the game more self-sufficient.
Honestly, (along with dealing with the bots for good) a simple balancing patch that changes some of the most egregiously OP or bad weapons like the Scorch Shot and Bison would be monumental. We really don’t need things like new weapons when we have plenty of unused/overused ones that need some love/nerfing.
good to have you back
Glad you're back and feeling better man. As for the update, turning it over to the workshop for fixes and curating them seems like a great idea, though I don't know how someone gets paid for something like fixing a model. Even if they're doing it primarily out of love for the game, people should still be compensated for their labor.
When they removed the "Update Sized Update" and that from the text, i basically gave up.
Im honestly not confident in the update, but the small fixes and bug squishing sounds welcome.
That subtle amongus round start sound at 4:55 scared me legit
Bro I woke up to the blog post edit on my birthday. What a present.
I have a nagging suspicion that even with curbed expectations, we will still be disappointed. I hope I'm wrong.
i like with the hat removal post, everything is so professional, and then the box is just " REMOVE THE FUCKING HATS "
The new wave of bots play as Heavy, Scout, and Engineer, and they kick regular players and say “F1” and “F2”
glad everything is fine after the hacking, keep up the good work king
Im glad you got ur account back you are 100% my favorite tf2 youtuber
Yeah, not going to get "excited" for another let down.
"Nobody is gonna want to wear them 11 months out of the year."
Meanwhile, like 50% of my cosmetics in my sets came from the 2022 winter crates.
like a guy from a random casual game said the bot hosters are probably having a summer break and for the update it self i whouldnt get my hopes just lets wait and see whats gonna happen
when it comes to bots
as i have about 90 percent of maps in my queue, i still have easily over 10 bot lobbies per night of play, which isn’t very long due to said bots
its the small things they fix I remember submitting a bug to mann manor because a water spout was blocking the ladder leading to the top of the tunnel between first and second point and they removed the clipping because it was blocking the entire team and clipping everyone. small bug fixes and consistency really get my jimmies going.
Me: my expectations for Valve are so low they are literally on the floor. There is no way they can possibly fail.
Valve: hand me a shovel
I'm mostly excited, but also worried that my expectations are too high.
I'm looking forward to seeing the community made content like maps and possible fixes. A part of me still has hope that they'll make weapon balance changes, but I fully understand if they choose not to. I've got bigger fish to fry in my life though, so I'll be happy with whatever they put out.
I am not ready to put another tick in the "Times that Valve got my hopes up" box.
For me I just want to see bug fixes and new maps. But to have new contracts would be the icing on the cake
Just wanted to add that I play early morning (4am) due to work and still a lot of bots in casual. Might be less in the evenings
Some new main menu backgrounds would be cool to see as well!
I was already very hyped. But this video made me even more!!!
i think the reason why they updated the page wasn't to shut down all hopes but to lower the expectations so that the fanbase doesn't expect major stuff like the heavy update
2:30 I don't think it's right to call it a scummy thing to do. If I haven't been misinformed, the update is essentially a response to UEAKcrash's open letter to Valve about new maps being added that aren't the same old holiday-themed maps that only stick around for a month, which worked. We're getting new permanent maps that could be incredibly unique and interesting thanks to vscript. To me, it seems Valve didn't meant to imply we'd be getting a host of new weapons and balance changes like everyone and their grandma really wants, but that's how the community took it, so they changed it to keep expectations in line. Should they have made it more clear and communicated this better? Absolutely. Would I ever expect Valve to be transparent with the community? No, never, it's fucking Valve.
I'm optimistic about this about, not in a unhealthy/unrealistic way i'll be happy as long as the map choices aren't total garbage. And maybe if the community responds positively valve may show more interest in tf2. Don't know if we will ever get like a real major update again but just generally getting small summer updates, bug fixes, community fixes, hell maybe even balence changes again would be more than fine in my eyes.
8:00 been doing that nonstop since the update got announced and only recently stopped. i tell you 80% of items are bad and half of the 20% deserve to be added. Valve need that quality control back!
This is the Make or Break update, and it will show if valve actually gives a damn anymore or not.
The wording of the original blog post was so ambiguous, and the new rewording even moreso, that all I'm really expecting from this update is it just being the summer equivalent of the last few years worth of Christmas and Halloween updates. Anything even *a little* more than that, and I'll be immensely surprised and satisfied. Would it be cool to get another Jungle Inferno, or Gun Mettle, or Love and War? Yeah, absolutely, but that's insane thinking at this point in time. Maybe a year or two we can see something like that in size and scope. But right now, a non-Christmas or Halloween update is all I need.
8:50 me and you both pal. Much love to you and I hope your doing well now! ❤
I'm glad you acknowledged the human cheaters because I've been seeing tonnes of them recently.
This will be the first actual update that I will be experiencing, started playing in 2020 and man I've been looking forward to this!
You started in 2020?? Man i feel so sorry for you. Played since 2008 and saw this game grow and entered its golden age of the early 2010s when so many games and merchandise wanted to be promoted along this game. Joining the game post jungle update is like going to a party that was over hours ago and you get foot the bill.
the chances of us getting another Pyromania or Gun Mettle Update is so slim that you might as well start believing in Santa Claus
Ugh, sorry about the channel getting hacked, that sounds like a headache and a half to deal with. Glad you got it back quickly. Anyway yeah, I hope the update is going to be bringing some good stuff to the game. People complained when they changed it from "update sized update" to "holiday sized update," but ya gotta understand that holiday updates ARE major updates, we just take them for granted because all the stuff in them are holiday locked. I mean take Meet your Match, for example. Yes it made the comp changes and stuff, and that WAS a big deal, sure, but in terms of actual new content, it was 3 community made maps and 4 taunts. Invasion was a cosmetic crate, 4 community maps, and some stupidly expensive weapon reskins. End of the Line was a cosmetic crate... and a taunt. Compare that with last scream fortress: 6 maps, 5 taunts, and a crate with 22 cosmetics. That is a BIG update, it's just that we expect this stuff to be limited-time. However, if we can numbers like that for this summer update, that's INSANE. So I'm lookin forward to it.
+ we got stuff like the cowmangler and what not in a holiday update. so, who knows
To be fair, even during Smissmas there were new weapons added but the only for Australian Christmas 2010 and Smissmas 2014. But because we can't really have high expectations, some summer themed weapon reskin would suffice for me due to lack of actual balance changes or new guns.
Meet Your Match and End of the Line are both considered some of the worst "major" updates the game has ever seen. It's not new content if we can already play all of it on community servers. It's just running on different servers.
Good way to put it.
Tbh if they aren't adding new weapons it seems like a minor update, the meta is discovered, people have made hundreds of thousands of suggestions that will make the difference between a playstyle and a subclass from simple a sandwich in the primary slot for a fat scout, to body armor on him, medic literally just needs a banner he can hold in his medigun slot and now you can actually play battle medic, new taunts are not enough to be a major content drop, in most games that'd be premium battle pack filler
I expect it to be like the Blue Moon update: not large enough for a Jungle Inferno-like anouncement, but with a surprisingly large amount of content, of which the majority is decent to *really good*
Stop. You need to stop. It's fucked that Valve is abandoning it, but it's even more fucked that people can't accept that for whatever reason. You keep this thinking up and all you're going to do is disappoint yourself and get angry at Valve.
Oh don't you worry, I honestly stopped caring a looong time ago, and I don't have high expectations from Valve anymore. I sometimes go back for Community organised events, and that's it.
Hoping MVM gets some fixes among other things always loved the game mode and i hope valve pays attention to it in this new update
They should call it the long wait update
I am really sad we (probably) won't get balance updates. Shit like:
sandman
sun on a stick
bison
manmelter
sharpened volcano fragment
caber
sticky launcher
natascha
buffalo steak
warriors spirit
pomson 6000
wrangler
every syringe gun
sniper
spy
all of these have serious balance issues but they will probably never be fixed. Sadge.
The legend of "iBangRosalina128" lives on... Thanks for showcasing my war paint, squim!
SquimJim, did you know, that your name is on the TF2 Wikipedia page? You're actually a part of history and you should be proud of it.
I would really love for for a fix to be added where glove or hand cosmetics show up in viewmodels. like the spooky sleeves, and digit divulger, and of course the something special for someone special.
Very happy you got it back
2:08
Squib will ALWAYS find a way to enter in your video
Honestly I want to see this update as them testing the waters for potentially more support.
I'd love getting some new maps in rotation and a few cool hats, but I'm trying to keep a steady balance of hopeful and skeptical. As much as I highly doubt that we'll get stuff like the consistent viewmodels pack or the disable cosmetics option, I feel like this update will still have something worth it in the end.
I am going to assume it will be just a Halloween/Smissmas update, except with maps that will stay around for the whole year, and way more bug fixes than the usual.
And i sure do hope that i'm wrong, so that they can get me to yell "HOLY SHIT!" if it ever turns out to be something big.
Man I didn’t know you got hacked...
And I also didn’t know that I wasn’t subscribed to you.
I’ll sub now, to be safe.
No matter how this update is, here's my most realistic expectation: that if it does well, Valve will allocate more resources to TF2 moving forward. What that would mean content-wise who knows but I'm really hoping this does well enough to refocus some of Valve back onto this amazing game that STILL has a community.
My pie in the sky hope is that they'll port the game over to source 2 but that's entirely unrelated. Such a thing would allow for interface overhauls that the game desperately needs, better security since TF2's source code had leaked, and it opens the opportunity to rerelease on modern consoles which could be immensely profitable with all the bells and whistles tf2 has gotten through updates over the years. It would be quite the task to port years worth of content over but it would be worth it I think.
Damn you SquimJim i never noticed the sniper glove issue
I'm still pissed at valve for the switcharoo they thought they could pull and no one would notice
I won’t get excited until I see good reasoning to be excited
You know I do think community stuff curated by valve is the best for the game, but at the same time i hope we never get a new update the community is just so insufferables about update. (Just look the other comments here lol)
Also something like the last stand/invasion update stuff is examples that community stuff work
True, we don’t need another update managed by the community or else we will have another invasion where the community screwed the entire thing and yet Valve had to take the blame. Also this community seems to think that Workshop content is unpaid labor which is extremely stupid since Valve isn’t forcing them to do it.
Yeah, weird story about the bots. During my first 25 hours of picking up the game, new player, bots were not just an issue, it was an apocalypse. I had to server surf for like 20 minutes just to find a game with only 2-3 bots.
I quit for a few months.
Picking the game back up, I've only seen maybe 3 bots in my past 40-ish hours of playing the game since I quit.
And now, I'm actively being kicked from lobbies because people are so on edge looking for bots and I play on controller. So I don't have the same jitters most mouse users have.