3D Scanning My Barn-Find Porsche 356! | Barn-Find Porsche 356 Restoration | Episode 3
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- Опубликовано: 8 окт 2022
- Learn more about how to get the best price for your vehicle and start your free car valuation at: bit.ly/DominicChinea. To restore the Porsche 356 accurately, I'm going to need to make a buck. With the help of a 3D scanning expert and a bunch of laser beams...
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I've seen 3D scanning, but this is next level. The hardware and software is amazing.
As an Industrial Designer, I must say it is amazing to actually see some of the technology we used in College for real world application as this is very rare to see in common use. I love this video for what it shows how far we have come in recreating physical to digital. Thanks! Love the 356 restoration and have been following for quite some time now. If you ever need any parts you can’t find anywhere, I can 3D model them for you! Thank you again! The Triangle Phrase he mentioned is quite smart to mention in a quick way, he is taking the data front he scan and making them Polynurb Surfaces, which can be res’d up to get the perfect surface which I see with his rendition of the white and black reflection render. This man is legit!
I wish you would have scanned Geoff’s bonnet and done a comparison just for grins. Happy to see you get on with the 356. Very cool!
I imagine Geoff is glad he didn't..lol
The buck starts here!
I completed my masters degree in Computer Aided Engineering back in 2007, I can’t believe how far it’s come. I remember learning “new” solidworks”, FEA (Finite Element Analysis) and 4D CAD. I’ve been out of that game for 10 years, so it’s great to see the technology trickle down
Brilliant stuff as usual Dom. Looking forward to seeing your progress. Keep up the great work 👍
Thank you for sharing Dom. This is going to be a very interesting project to follow. Love your channel.
As someone who is going to use this technology in carving the faces and backs of stringed instruments, I can't wait so see how that scanned image is going to be used to build the.body buck. This is just too cool! Thank you so much for taking us with, Dom! Who knows, maybe I'll also get to use it on the restoration I'm doing on a little frog eyed sprite!
Will it ever be a "stradivarius" ?
A paint by numbers Mona Lisa 🥸
Absolutely fascinating stuff and the anticipation for future videos is just getting bigger! This is the best project on RUclips right now.
Great video Dom . . . fascinating technology.
Absolutely love this.
Nice to see you back on te Porsche, which is why I'm here : ) 2 options: points scan then prepare the data- then mill bucks, what's the cost? or as I did, admitedly 'only' a motorcycle tank ( search ' harley davidson barista ' if you are interested ) take the grp negatives which I took off the original clay model- lay in 2mm wax sheet- lay in lots of grp for a 'positive' 2mm smaller than the final design which gives me the buck for sheet metal work . . . one day . . . ; ) takes time, costs of grp and materials, all a 'lot' old schooly . . . but possible for any/every home worker
Love it and I used to be a CAD jockey before for I retired and miss it to this day. Amazing technology. You will have a very valuable ’pointcloud’ and surface to be sure. Oh the things you can do with that. Look forward to next chapter. Cheers mate!!
Facinating technology! The potential uses are endless!
Great content Dom. Fascinating
It's one of those cases when free-dee scanning is not actually free ;-)
Seriously, thanks for a very interesting video!
Clever stuff. Way above my head Thank you for sharing 🌞
Great system. And nice work. Big step forward. Well dune look forward to the panels. Big 👍
Scanning is the way. Had my Intermeccanica Italia front end scanned & buck built for it. All from a-pillar forwards was rebuilt from sheet metal with English wheel.
Good stuff
Another video of yours that made me go " Wow". I recall a Time Team episode where this technology was used to map a cave.
Absolutely bloody marvellous what a fantastic use of a scanner thanks Dom and thanks to Stuart for allowing us to see this hope he gets lots of work out of this
I hope so too, stuart has such an amazing ability to use those programs, it’s amazing
Fascinating indeed. It will be interesting to watch what comes out of it 🙂👍
Brilliant video Dom. We did this recently on a perfect Pre-A body and I was truly overwhelmed with the endless details, which go right down to picking up chassis data points that I have center punched in my Jigging system beneath the car. We were then able to incorporate these into our scan to show the specific inner chassis reference points as well, all within the one exterior scan.
Top job Dom, as usual
Hiya Dom absolutely amazing video I'm looking forward to seeing more on the porker and watching the process às you go along some modern technology is outstanding keep up the amazing work ♥️👍👍
wow , what a peice of fantastic equipment ❤
Hi Don just had your book delivered just started to read it it looks excellent thanks 😂👍
Dare say one of them laser jobies would be handy in the repair shop Dom, another happy Sunday thanks mate
What an amazing piece of kit! Incredible technology, like science fiction Thanks Dom + Steve.
So cool isn’t it!!
Just amazing technology, I’ve seen them use this scanning system on the great Pyramids in Egypt, but never on a car, incredible 👍🙂
Incredible!! ❤❤
And we're off!!! Fantastic bit of tech, makes the old motor look quite smart!! Now I know why you've got all those Ranalahs, lots of wheeling coming up???!!👍👍👍
Absolutely incredible! Thanks
Your so welcome!
Really fascinating film… I didn’t know this technology even existed for car restoration 😮
Love this video Dom. one minute you're working with the Ranalagh - almost an antique technology - and then you're embracing CAD to restore your Porche.
Awesome! Love seeing how you’re using this technology to help you rebuild something as beautiful as the Porsche 😍😎👍🏻
Stuart is a very very clever guy!
A common phrase in the motor trade when I worked in bodyshops was, "you can't see both sides of the car at the same time!"
We used to repair the one side so it looked good. That was the standard.
Another piece of kit that would be useful in my never ending arsenal of tools, but think this time the wife would really say, "How Much?".
Really clever, it's amazing what you can do these days when you can link a very useful piece of kit and the right software.
Can't wait to see the next stage of the project.
Hello Dom. Looking forward to video. Happy you have sponsor. Excited about 3D
Thank you for the support, it helps fund the videos!
This is so exciting! Really looking forward to seeing how this progresses. This is one project when I'd love to be in the workshop watching the whole thing (although I'd be in the way, asking endless questions and generally being a pain in the ass so don't send a limo to pick me up).
Haha well I will film every step of the journey so you can watch along and ask questions on here!! Win win!
@@DominicChineas Thank God for technology (despite the frequency and level of profanity with which I swear at my laptop, my phone... and don't get me started on 'Alexa'). I'll watch it in my shed for atmosphere. At 8ftX12ft, it's not exactly your workshop but it gives me a better buzz than the sofa.
Loved this. I've bought a 3D scanner to do the same thing on my 356 as I've got to make a whole new frontend. I'm putting an A front on my 356B so I wanted to check the panels will all align. I hadn't thought of getting a buck made. I'm watching with interest!
probably not same lidar as this one, which one did you get?
Hello Dom,
Interesting video... another step forward in the project, well done.
Take care.
Paul,,
Very interesting! Thanks, Dom.
Your welcome! Glad you enjoyed it
Great stuff!
Wow, you've got to be pleased with that. Such an interesting video. I saw one being used to map a cave once, I think it was on Time Team. Looking forward to see how nervous you'll be when you cut the front off. Good luck
Fascinating 😊
This was fascinating and I loved the 'stranger things'-esque music. A great episode and looking forward to more 👏
That was brilliant Dom,really interesting.👍👍
I’m glad you enjoyed it! Thank you
I bet you could make a matchbox mini of exactly your car with that data. And thinking of merch, a t-shirt with just the point field image... 👌 It is fascinating to see the images generated. I work with LiDAR so feeling a connection 😉
They used something like this on time scanners a tv programme,worth a watch! When they did St Paul's in London.
Hi Dom, Gob smacked, what you can do today, Fantastic , can't wait next please, All the best Brian 😃
It’s mad isn’t it!
Brilliant stuff Dom, I know this is used on buildings etc but I now can't wait to see your body buck and want to know will the production of new Porche bodies be your next project 🤣🥸
Been reading your book interesting read 👍
Dom, excellent video, I'm I right in thinking that you will get a virtual Buck to work with which will show a dimensional relationship throughout the car. I received last week your book, very interesting read full of interesting stuff.
Fascinating stuff Dom! Also fascinating is your new book which arrived in the mail last week. Really interesting content for a old tool nut like me and on top of that magnificently illustrated . And to make things even better I got a refund from amazon. One happy man here in Flanders..
What a brilliant video!!
Glad you enjoyed it
Fascinating Dom, thank you I look forward to the transformation into a buck. Kind regards, Richard.
That will be another video in a few weeks!
Received your book the other day, great purchase 👍👍
So glad you enjoyed it, thank you for the support
Being clumsy is my best talent Dom 😂🤣 great video as usual 👌😊
Amazing video.
I got your book the other day and had a quick look. It’s looks great. I was given a choice by She who must be obeyed. Either I buy it and I can read it now, or she’s buying it for my birthday in November.
I’m not good at waiting 😂😂😂
That was really interesting Dom. Thanks very much for taking so much trouble with this video. I am sure I speak for a good many people when I say that I was fascinated to actually see how the scanning was done. Plus on something we are all interested in.
I am sure we all dream of making a buck for something, but only imagine the old way of a pair of callipers and lots of plywood patterns. To see your 356 laser scanned was a rare opportunity.
I for one would be curious to know roughly what that type of expertise costs.
Brilliant
Thanks✌🏼
Your welcome!
Hi Dome another great video and what agreat use of technology to restore and old car. By the way the Tool book has arrived and the little I had a chance to read is great!!!
Thanks for ordering the book!! The technology and Stuart’s knowledge is incredible!
Excited to see you back on the porsche!!! From the looks of things, that car is really rough. You may be building a new car. That car might just donate its image. Look forward to finding out!!
I think you’ll be surprised , It’s not THAT bad!
That is very cool 😎👍.
Isn’t it!
If all else fails: i know the Helmut Pfeiffer museum of porsche in Austria Gmuend has such a wooden template sitting there.
but i think you got this covered. awesome project! cannot wait how this turnes ot. cheers!
Thank you Frans, that is the sort of feedback we all enjoy. Sharing our knowledge with each other. Just imagine you needed a 356 buck and you have just solved the problem. Great stuff!
WOW! This is amazing stuff! You could even have a model kit of your workshop built? 🤔👍
Good work, crucial to have that buck eh.
WOW! you can 3D print your car!
seems a lot of Technology
for a hand made car wen Sam lovgrov dose it with a sheet of metal and a einglsh wheel.
but keep up the good work we need all the old cars back on the road if we want the petrol to keep flowing?
all the best
Kevin
Thatsa handy bitta kit.
Came here for the split bus, stayed for the 3D model of a Porsche. What a time to be alive!
Exactly what I'm doing with my project car, but as I'm deisgining it from scratch I need to 3d scan the scale clay model, upscaled it in the computer and build a buck from that. Great to see bascially the same process ahead of me doing it :)
You should speak to stuart at Cadcar or 3d engineers, he will help you out so much!
@@DominicChineas Cheers for the pointer
I've seen places on the you tubes that can CNC machine an entire car body out of a block of foam using not much more than that CAD file you now have, then you can slice it up any way you like to make a buck or just glass/carbon the whole thing and make a mould or one off shell ( terminology is probably incorrect but you get my drift ).
Using a Cartesian system that was developed in the 17th century but in a 2022 package….. I have seen first hand the laser surface technology, superb piece of kit. I know why he didn’t want Mr Clumsy around it, he knows it’s value and what they cost to replace! £££££
Definitely don’t blame him! Haha
What an amazing match of old and new engineering. I guess you will be able to rent out or sell the buck once you've finished with it.
Should sell the 3D Scan to upload?
Although there is an interesting video on RUclips called Porsche made by hand these cars were never truly built by hand like a ferrari from the fifties. They were mass produced pressings assembled on precision Jigs ( as shown in the video) The fact that you were able to obtain a set of Cellette brackets /fixtures is testament to this. Looking forward to the next instalment. Great stuff.
They were definitely finished by hand, so no 2 are exactly the same..
@@DominicChineas Hi Dom. I suggest you watch the video " porsche 356 made by hand" on RUclips. These cars are categorically not individually made by hand. Only the lead work around the apertures is. In the video you can clearly see the use of Jigs (yellow) for hood opening /apertures and the doors. Also nearby are other Jigs for rear window openings etc. The floor pans are also made on Jigs. As somebody who restores Lancias which share similarities with the construction methods of the porsche there is some hogwash talked about individual differences between cars. I am interested to see the variations the scanning reveals. I do know that fulvia Zagatos are 6mm longer on one side because two different teams made the patterns for the front wings and that's what was used for the press tooling.
I don't mean to rant but we mustn't draw the wrong conclusions from old cars. If your pulling the front end off you're car you must have a front window aperture jig in place. I think you can still hire them from the porsche club
@@alistairallan1178 Agreed. The body on my 1953 Rolls-Royce Silver Dawn was constructed by Pressed Steel in Cowley. The body shell was constructed from small pressed panels that were welded together. Although many people tell me that "no two are the same" I have cut up around 10 bodies for authentic parts and am amazed at the accuracy.
Over the past 30 years I've asked many people in the trade about the welding method used to join sub-panels but cannot get a definitive answer. The panels appear to be butt welded together - maybe with a small overlap. The finished panel is absolutely smooth on the top side but underneath there is a heavy weld bead. This appears to be "drop through" from welding on the top side. The underside welds are not uniform and vary in appearance suggesting manual welding rather that an automatic process. Underneath there are pick hammer marks showing where the welded panel was hammered to remove welding sinkage. The smooth top side was finished with a coarse sander maybe 40 grit. I suspect that the panels were stick welded but no one seems to know. Any ideas?
@@mikewhelan5992 cars like the Rolls you mentioned, Jensen Interceptor, MK 2 Jags have overlapped or joggled joints spot welded together ( are those the "pick marks" your witnessing) finished with copious amounts of lead! Lead sinkage is knocked back up with a pick hammer and re filed.
Jensen can have 6mm of lead on the door shuts. Over the years the press tools can wear and lead to discrepancies but not huge ones. Iv'e found that most variations are down to how the car is being measured by the restorer. Undoubtedly there can be some variation for a whole variety of reasons but the porsche 356 was built using Jigs very similar to the way the Ferrari Daytona was. The only possible way two cars could be significantly different is two or three jig sets were produced that were all different. Even then the Jigs would be compared to a Master Set.
Iv'e had people swear that "all cars were different" back in the day. I then scanned the same panel on 3 different vehicles and found them all to be identical.
A English version of 'Ruetter' made by hand author 'Judd' just received it, shows many unseen images of tooling,jigs, body production,letterheads,etc many great photos back in the day!
Mesmerising, and great you’ve managed to pick up some sponsorship.
Love the Stranger Things music vibe!
Thanks so much, glad you enjoyed the video!
Very clever, a bit beyond my intellect though. But It will ensure the panels you make will be absolutely perfect. Brilliant video as usual Dom, looking forward to more.
Your not the only one haha stuart is a clever guy!
With the 3D scan you can easily make the profile shapes. With the Wray Shelin method of the flexible shape pattern you can then create the panels in the correct curvature and then you do not need a buck....All you need is a couple of rolls of tape...
I work in warships and we had the whole hull of a Type23 Frigate 3D scanned...it even picked up two blokes having their lunch which was deliberately left in the final presentation 😀
Wray Schelin (Wray Schelin's ProShaper Workshop) uses a flexible shape pattern to fabricate body panels as opposed to the buck form. A very interesting and highly accurate way to form body panels when you have original panels to work with. I highly recommend checking out his work and channel for anyone interested in hand forming panels.
Wray's videos on making panels to a wireform buck is very thorough, flexible shape pattern is great for making a mirror of the part to be symmetrical .
Really interesting! About 25 years ago I did work experience at my dads workplace and used what I assume was a precursor to this tech. It was a table based unit with a surface of about 2x3 metres in size, which had a robotic arm with a laser on the end that took individual reference points around an object to test the tolerances were within a certain range. Like you I was told to be very careful around it... unlike you, when placing an object to be measured, I head utterly the laser (which I'd previously been told were about 8k a pop). Luckily I didn't damage it 😬
Back then it was a farro arm usually made of carbon fibre to keep stable with temperature change, do point to point checking. Now 3D scanning has taken over.
Nice. This will be finished before Binky
The world of technology helping the past come to life can I ask did I miss the landrover coffee being finished?
Dominic, When you make your wooden buck, will it all be cnc cut from plywood at regular station points or perhaps irregularly to match up with areas of greatest change in curvature of surfaces ?
Technology :)
Once you have a complete 3D model you could do a scaled 3D model print of the car
Hi Dom, I'm relatively new to the channel, I'm enjoying it very much... Are you planning on making a complete new body out of aluminium?
No no the body will stay steel, just the bonnet and engine lid, maybe doors one day
Amazing how far computer modelling can take you.
WoW…
has he done any scans of more than one car to see what differences are say of two Porsche cars so that he builds a library of scans to resurrect what ever has been scanned can this be connected to a 3 d printer to make models or to make 1 to 1 buck's
Your mate Stuart looks like a lost brother of Bob Mortimer! Can't help see the resemblance now! 😀
I'm struggling with why you're making another bonnet, isn't the one you made yours?
Absolutely fascinating. Once you've got the buck, will it be specific to your car, or could it be used to make panels for other 356 owners? If it is, do I sense a business opportunity?
It will definitely be able to be used to make panels for other cars!!
Is there hidden damaged structure that requires cutting the front off? I recall from way back that you had determined the front to be in perfect alignment so I'm wondering about the motivation.
Yes there is a lot of rusty panels that need replacing!
So what we need then is all classic cars scanning and the files made available in the public domain, ideally that would include empty engine bays, underneath etc
Hi Dominic. how did panel beaters of the 50s, 60s, and 70s, do without their 3d laser scans. in order to do their work.
The same way I explained how we made the bonnet with Geoff, making profile gauges out of strips of metal, simple!
@@DominicChineas Sorry, maybe I should have asked, how do you translate the Scan of your car. Into the full size body Panel To be Beaten. Wasn't this capable in the 50s - 70s. Was your car Handmade, or was it mass produced on an assembly line?
Commission Workshop Will to build your buck 👍😊
It’s going to be made from stainless steel!
I hope you'll have what's left of the body Dom :)