John Kreese VS Terry Silver: Who Was RIGHT?
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- Kreese VS Terry Silver: Who Was RIGHT?
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Cobra Kai is an American martial arts comedy-drama streaming television series and a sequel to the Karate Kid's original movie directed by Robert Mark Kamen. The series was created by Josh Heeld, John Harwitz, Hayden Schlossberg, and Ralph Macchio and William Zabka, who repeated their roles as Daniel LaRusso and Johnny Lawrence in the 1984 movie The Karate Kid. Thirty-four years later, the Cobra Kai examines the story of "Miyagi Verse" from Johnny's point of view, his decision to reopen the Cobra Kai Karate Dojo, and the resurgence of his old competition with Daniel. The Cobra Kai also plays Courtney Henggeler, Xolo Mariduena, Tanner Buchanan, Mary Mouser, Jacob Bertrand, Gianni Dechenzo, Martin Kove, Vanessa Rubio and Peyton List. This series boasts high ratings on both RUclips and Netflix and has received widespread positive reviews from critics. The third season was also nominated for an "Outstanding Comedy Series" at the 73rd Primetime Emmy Awards. The first season started on RUclips Red in 2018 and the second season continued in 2019. After the production of the third season was completed, RUclips decided to stop producing the original scripted show and leave the show without a house. Netflix acquired the series in June 2020 and released the third season on January 1, 2021. Netflix expanded the series to the fourth season, released on December 31, 2021. The fourth season of the Cobra Kai was released on Netflix on December 31, 2021 and consists of 10 episodes. This series is a direct sequel to the four original films of The Karate Kid franchise, focusing on the characters of Daniel LaRusso and Johnny Lawrence, more than 30 years after the original film. Following the first two seasons on RUclips, Netflix will release the second season. There are 12 protagonists in the season, nine of which are back from the previous season, two are added to the main cast after being repeated in the previous season, and one is a newcomer to the series that repeats the role from the franchise. John Kreese, known magnanimously as Kreese, is the main antagonist of The Karate Kid film franchise and Cobra Kai. Kreese is a cruel, vicious, and unhinged Vietnam War veteran and sensei of the 1980s karate dojo, Cobra Kai. He instilled a dangerous philosophy of "no mercy" in his students and encouraged generations of bullies. Most notably, Kreese taught karate to a teenaged Johnny Lawrence and feuded with his karate rival Mr Miyagi. After repeated losses at the hands of Daniel LaRusso and Mr Miyagi, Kreese fled the valley and lost contact with his students. Over thirty years later, Johnny Lawrence reopened Cobra Kai, triggering Kreese to make a surprise return to the valley. He eventually acquires the dojo through nefarious means, becoming the Sensei to an entirely new generation of students. With his rivals teaming up, Kreese seeks out his old Army friend Terry Silver to help Cobra Kai prepare for the All Valley Karate Tournament. As hostilities continue to flare between the rival dojos, Kreese plays the angles to get into his opponents’ heads. After Cobra Kai's victory in the tournament, Kreese is betrayed by Silver, who Silver framed for the assault of Stingray. Terrance "Terry" Silver is the secondary antagonist of The Karate Kid franchise, serving as the main antagonist of The Karate Kid Part III and the overarching antagonist of the RUclips Red/Netflix television series Cobra Kai, serving as a mentioned character in the first two seasons, the deuteragonist of the flashback arc in Season 3, one of the two main antagonists (alongside John Kreese) of Season 4 and will return as the main antagonist of Season 5. He was an acquaintance of John Kreese from his military days and easily his closest friend. He is also the head of DynaTox Industries, the sponsor of the All Valley Karate Tournament and the antithesis of Daniel LaRusso. He and Kreese train Mike Barnes in an effort to defeat Daniel after him and Mr. Miyagi defeated Kreese's dojo Cobra Kai. Years later, Silver is called by Kreese to help him after Kreese takes over control of Cobra Kai again, as Kreese wants him to help in his vendetta against LaRusso and his former student Johnny Lawrence. He is Daniel's archenemy and tormentor.
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#terrysilver #kreese #cobrakai
Kreese is honestly the main reason of a lot of stuff that happens in Cobra Kai and I honestly feel bad for Terry he is clearly traumatized by the war and wants to live a peaceful life but his trauma and the fact that he was saved by Kreese is being used against him is honestly very sick and very despicable of Kreese, Terry was always used by Kreese and when he released the devil that was Og Terry Kreese didn’t know how uncontrollable he actually is and actually released a monster worse than him
Terry wasn’t ALWAYS used by Kreese. He was now, but not then.
well said
If this was real life, I would have to say that Johnny Lawrence should never have starred in cobra Kai in the first place. Kreese was living in a homeless shelter, while Terry Silver was living a peaceful life in his mansion. No rivalries would have risen between the kids. The only thing is that Miguel would have continued to be bullied by Kyler in his bully friends. Also, Aisha would’ve continued to be made fun of by Yasmin. Of course, Johnny starting cobra Kai back up again did some good things, but then he brought Kreese back to life, which then led to craze taking over, which then led him to waking up Terrance Silver and then turning him back into Terry Silver.
@@chuckmanofgod He should have ‘starred’ a karate dojo and that’s it.
@@CORNERofTECH yea Just not cobra kai. He could have just named it eagle fang and I doubt it would even restart the rivalry between daniel as well.
I’ll have to go with Terry (S4 ep 1-5). In the beginning he had some restraint, wasn’t bloodthirsty.
Kreese triggering & exploiting his trauma, brought out the worse in Silver
Yeah
💯 thank you!
its just whos the lesser of two evils. kreese's cobra kai is less emotionally damaging, but still obviously traumatized johnny and his gang. the best cobra kai is the one that makes the little suburban boys and girls the happiest, because at the end of the day it is all just karate its an after school hobby, so johnnys is the best. if he wasn't feuding with daniel or kreese didn't come back, then it would have been perfect. miguel, aisha, and hawk make friends and gain confidence, and kids like tory would get a positive role model. if only...
for alot of ppl karate is far more than an after school hobby
Kreese brought it on himself
He strangled his student
Trying to kill Johnny twice
Sooo please don’t defend kreese he is the worst man ever
Karate kid krese is way different then cobra Kai krese he learned from Johnny krese wasn’t about cheating or killing in cobra Kai but terry was so that why he told him off
@@ihatenagi season three kreese almost killed Johnny before Daniel step in
He is the same
Terry silver is different until kreese pushing it too far with vietnam
Terry is so evil he makes kreese look like a good guy
@@poutsamouni5483 not really. Kreese was the one who had the Cobra Kai students attack Miyagi Do and also in season 3 when he sent his students inside Daniel's house to cause chaos. Terry was telling Kreese the whole time that they should not repeat the past and they should focus on their students and not have them fight meaningless fights outside. Terry also told Daniel in the first 3 episodes of season 5 a couple of times to back up and there wouldn't be any revenge. Terry is a master manipulator who will do anything to win but the guy wants to make his style of Karate the best and to make his students the best so he can have his legacy live on. Kreese was the one who was obsessed with Daniel and Miyagi and getting revenge on them, he's been saying that to Johnny for 5 seasons now, the guy hates Daniel with a passion even though he was the one that was causing shit to Daniel, Terry even went and apologized to Daniel last season because he truly was changed and was sorry for what he did, Kreese would have never done that
Really he made a deal with mr miyagi, he could have refused
I feel Terry in the beginning he wasn't as agresive. But john has a point on finishing your enemy so they can't take advantage of you when u least expect it.
But it’s cheating/no mercy which would be going to far so early season 4 silver is in the right. Silver is pretty much following Johnny’s eagle fang philosophy in the beginning of season 4 then goes back to cobra Kai philosophy of no mercy
Essentially Terry is like palptine in star wars, he's a manipulater and good at fighting, Johnny is alot like Vader or maybe the other way around because some aspects work like Vader does alot of the fighting and is essentially the emperor fist which terry does fit into there's also
Actually Terry silver is more Vader and Kreese is more palpatine
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@@Willow-moI disagree. Kreese lost his girl during the war, turned to the dark side, and killed his own mentor, just like Vader
I’d say neither is palptine, I think silver wants what’s best for his students like kreese while palptine just wants power. But I’m not sure what terry wants in season 5, like sometimes it feels like he wants his students to be successful or sometimes he doesn’t care about them & just wants to be successful himself
I highly doubt Silver is going honor his deal with Stingray. Silver: I’ll make you Cobra Kai; just not with this class.
No one knows maybe he will honor his deal
Now that kreese is gone
@@yosifalhasil559 Probably put Stingray in one of the many Cobra Kai dojos across the valley. A dojo with adult students
@@Karlos1234ify I can see this happening too. I had a funny idea where Stingray is promised his own dojo and walks in all psyched but we the camera pans over to old folks. Turns out Stingray is put in charge of a retirement home dojo for bored elderly people.
@@Aaron-zt5ee Or better yet put Stingray in group of people his own age. People that can knock him flat on his ass. 😂
Stingray: You said I could be a Cobra. Where’s everyone? Robby & the others?
Silver: It’s only fitting to be with people your age. Or is that going to be a problem for you? ?
He's probably just going to dump Stingray with some other sensei on some back-alley dojo with the Cobra Kai name branded on it.
John Kreese is more honorable. Terry Silver is wiser. If only someone could embody both those qualities without the flaws and weaknesses of either men.
I feel like Terry is the better sense, watching what he did with a rookie Kenny within a few months shows how effective he is.
right... then he taught him a quick method... ((silver bullet)) to take hawk out so quickly
I think kreese would have been able to do the same thing to Kenny only difference is silver seems like he knows more secret techniques than kreese does, like the silver bullet
The real villain is captain Turner period
Yes I agree. Captain Turner and Col Dugan
@@MeltinJohn who was col.Dugan?
@@pinpoint4644 NEXT Karate Kid with Hilary Swank.. he was the villain .
@@pinpoint4644ironoc in s3 kreese past guy who fight to death in Vietnam before kreese vs cap. Is Col.Dugan
Real Villain Kim Sun Yung
Terry was right because his strategy is superior 1st of all. 2nd Kreese done something no one should do and especially to his best friend- Bringing back his PTSD to a new record. That was the reason Terry pushed him away at first, because when he saw his face again he knew why John is there. And after he is redeemed he didn't want to return on past mistakes and John pushed him too much. But you can take this madness they teach and turn into something good, it's all depend on the person who trains under them and most of them are bad.
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Who was right? Both. Who is the better fighter between the two? Terry Silver. Why? Because Johnny lawrence and Daniel LaRusso surpassed John Kreese but Terry Silver can beat JL and probably Daniel LaRusso as well.
Kreese was the one who had the Cobra Kai students attack Miyagi Do and also in season 3 when he sent his students inside Daniel's house to cause chaos. Terry was telling Kreese the whole time that they should not repeat the past and they should focus on their students and not have them fight meaningless fights outside. Terry also told Daniel in the first 3 episodes of season 5 a couple of times to back up and there wouldn't be any revenge. Terry is a master manipulator who will do anything to win but the guy wants to make his style of Karate the best and to make his students the best so he can have his legacy live on. Kreese was the one who was obsessed with Daniel and Miyagi and getting revenge on them, he's been saying that to Johnny for 5 seasons now, the guy hates Daniel with a passion even though he was the one that was causing shit to Daniel, Terry even went and apologized to Daniel last season because he truly was changed and was sorry for what he did, Kreese would have never done that. Kreese has done way worse shit than Terry in my opinion
💯 another thank you for this synopsis
Kreese is a mad dog!!!! Silver is a racketeer!!!! Silver wins!!!
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Silver understood kreese is using him for his own benefits ( by using victim card of Vietnam cage scene). Now silver wants to be in top that's it.
silver cares about cobra kai more than kreese thats why he had to anything in his power to make cobra kia win. if it was not for silver cobra kia would not exists
No they both equally care about cobra Kai. Kreese would have paid off the ref if he had terry’s kind of money which he should given that in season 1 Johnny repaid Sid’s money back decently fast with the money he got from his classes
kreese started the whole kung fu war and terry made it more dangerous
This video is a very good debate
I actually think Johnny father might be ponytail and I think it’s highly possible
Give me Terry but also give me good students with morals.
Remember people no matter how evil silver becomes in season 5 kreese is to blame
Your right. Kreese had keep on telling Silver about Vietnam: saving him and hold his promise to help and bring evil Terry back by telling how CK lost twice to Daniel which was both there fault
Silver is in the right Kreese told him off just because silver helped teach the class
Silver is the better fighter I wanna see Silver vs Kreese is season 6 but it only makes sense for Silver to win since he's WAY better than Kreese
Hey you know what I guess Kreese will beat his friend and that he teams up with Daniel,Chozen,Johnny,Amanda, Carmen,Kumiko,Ali,Julie. Guess what if Kreese created a new Dojo? and of course the All Valley Tournament is over now I hope there's another tournament coming out in the Upcoming season.
Es lo que en las temporadas en las serie
Lo q je es lo mejor de esta en cobra kai lo es alumnos de esta
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Que nuevos sensei en la esta temporada en cobra kai
Terry Of Course
I’m going with Terry
Tylern can you do a video of jack from kickin it vs Miguel I think jack solos the whole universe
John Kreese was been sent from the Past hoping that would change his life but Terry Silver was right all along they were best buddies for a very long time and both taught Cobra Kai the way of the fist
I'll go with Terry. He got results. Kreese never did.
To be fair terry had money to rig the tournament
Before Terry Silver started going back to his old ways in episode 8 of season 4, I didn’t feel like his way of Karate was dishonorable, unlike with Kreese. With Kreese’s way of turning anger into a weapon, he would make his students become asshole soldiers, especially because I believe anger is more of an offensive weapon. With Terry Silver though, how he described his way of Karate by only using it at the tournament where it matters, finding characteristic flaws in fighters, and using fear as a weapon, he would make his students become like warriors, especially because I believe that fear is more of a defensive weapon. But by the time we get to episode 8 and onwards at the end of season 4 and throughout season 5, Terry Silver would change his Karate style so that it would make his students become asshole warriors.
I feel like it’s Kreese’s fault for bringing old Terry back, but at the end of the day, Terry did still have his old self hidden inside of him. He blames his old nature on drugs, but he snapped just like that. Kreese may be harsh, but he does bad things because he genuinely thinks they are right, Terry, when he’s in Terry mode, just does things to be evil. I think it’s the fault of Kreese for making Terry this way, however in Terry’s eyes Kreese is doing these bad things just to be superior, he doesn’t know Kreese has an actual reason for it, so due to poor communication, Kreese does what he does because he’s trying to help people, Terry does what he does because he thinks he right, a lack of communication has caused this difference. If Kreese expressed to Terry his true intentions, maybe Terry would be the same amount of cruel, but with more reasons. They are both at fault, and have caused each other to be in their own situation.
Terry does know kreeses goal of helping kids. Silver says this in season 4, when he says cobra kai was about turning your fears into your strength or something like that for the kids. But in season 5 I didn’t get that impression from silver, it felt like he was doing it for himself & just making sure nobody lost so he could succeed but maybe I’m wrong
Im mostly excited to see Kreese in prison i hope they Dont just keep that out and not show anything
In cobra Kai Terry silver clearly
Can you do johnny vs robbie
They both have great teachings just evil purposes
Hey they both did bad stuff but who is the one who almost killed stingray and framed someone else for it.or when he told him not to bring johnny buy he could not dhow remotse.
I think terry sliver is right in my opinion.
Well silver had the right plans for CK bit the problem is he will do everything and cross everyone to get there. Kreese is just about himself and maybe Johnny. Mastermind of manipulation
Silver doesn't believe in half measures that's why everything that happened happened. Once he was back he was gonna follow through with the stated mission of Cobra Kai and hold nothing back. Or he was gonna walk away forever.
Terry Silver Was Right. He Was Never Tryna Beef With Miyagi-Fang In The First Place. He Even Gave Daniel PLENTY Of Chances To Back Down With NO RETALIATION
He wanted to also show mercy at the beginning and not cheat or play dirty
Silver's weakness is Daniel not kreese just like Kreese weakness is Johnny who help beat Kreese Johnny who helped beat Silver Daniel so thats there students wants upon a time so there two strongest students even tho temporary learned how there Is former sensei think and Mike Chosen Johnny and Daniel helping each other came out Victorious
Kreese kicked half the Dojo out for showing sympathy for a mouse he wound up feeding to snake in front dumbfounded and scared students. Sliver was minding his business and had his life. Kreese came back putting ideas in his mind and reminding him of saving his life. Neither is good, but Kreese is the worst.
Terry had got himself together, living his best life.. then.. hurricane Kreese came rolling in.
I like to think he wanted terry to get back into helping kids succeed which isn’t a bad thing
Silver all the way
Yess! I sooo agree with this synopsis about Terry and John! Kreese manipulated, exploited and took full advantage of a man he once called His Best Friend. I know that's why he beat Stingray up, he was FED!, up wit his MESS!
Kreese did that cause he knew he needed terry’s help to win so he could make sure kids were successful in life. He did it for a good reason but it’s still wrong to do
Can you do a what if Miguel kick Robby off the Balcony
Terry Silver!
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Kreese is right
Kreese definitely
Kreese
Y’all got it all wrong Terry been a bad guy since the beginning Lmaoo like what?? You don’t have to trigger somebody To bring out something that was already there I strongly believe Daniel would have Brung terry out the wood works anyways If his team won the tournament and terry caught wind of it With or without Krease The snake would have been slithering in Cobra Kai’s establishment regardless!
Not at all. Terry wanted to do things the legit way. Kreese kept stomping it out for his own benefit. It wasn't until Kreese brought back Terry's debt to him that Terry started reissuing the "quicksilver" method of fighting too. Terry showed no signs of being evil until Kreese gradually pushed him back to his old self.
@@onemuststand7353 Bro you can’t make someone evil He’s been evil & already had a plan too takeover Crobra Kai You gonna see in this new season it’s gonna be explained
@@eviltwn You can absolutely make someone evil. Evil isn't a base standard. It's created and nurtured. If you treat someone like trash, you can't expect them to remain a good person. People react different ways on how they're treated. If a man murders a killer because the killer killed the man's daughter, does that mean the man was evil all along? No. And it's really really stupid to think so.
@@onemuststand7353 lol bro I understand you trust me and I agree with you for sure but we talking about Crobra Kai & terry but I totally agree with with your last message
Kreese is soft
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Bro… Neither wtf
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