Does Marvel Make Good Horror? - What If Episode 5 Breakdown
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- Episode 5 of Marvel’s What If asks What If...Zombies or whatever. And the answer is chaos, death, Zombified versions of Iron Man, Captain America, Hawkeye, Black Widow, Doctor Strange and the rest of the Avengers. With Spider-Man, Bruce Banner plus The Hulk, The Wasp and Black Panther going up against in an effort to find a cure. It’s like the Marvel Zombies from the comics but a show. You get it. Thanks for watching!
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Bruce: “Vision, before you kill yourself could you maybe laser the horde of zombies?”
Vision: “Nah”
"You've got this right?"
"No? We clearly don't"
"Yeeeeaaah you've got this"
@@exzyyd392 Vision: “And deny the others their sacrificial deaths? I would never.”
Vision became the opposite of a smart robot with one of the most powerful stones in his head this vision was so stupid lol I had to pause the show this episode this what if series is not that good
This episode really does feel like u could continue it with different characters like Bucky cause no way he’s dead or hulk
The Avengers: "Hey, Vision, i know you did some horrible things but how about we forget that for now and you help us save the World?"
Vision: "Nah imma kill myself for no reason."
Vision “I am doing this really bad thing”
Bucky “Don’t be bad”
Vision “I am now good, I’m gonna kill my self”
Vision git hit by better logic
Saying "my self" instead of "myself" does make it sound a lot more Visiony
Maybe he was infected and all it was able to do was chip away at his decision making skills
Or bucky when he kills his best friend of 100 years “guess this is just the end of the line lmfao 😎” or the wasp when she explodes in sharon who they were friends surviving the zombie apocalypse with “ewww I’m covered in sharon”
@@cybergames3436 "5 year old Android DESTROYED by Facts and Logic"
bucky: *chops his childhood best friend in half*
bucky: oh no! anyway
End of the line
it needed to be longer especially for emotional impact. bucky did a quip instead of being sad when his bff of 100 years died? come on....vision the android the only w/human emotions!
@@vonniestewart4416 I mean this is “what if” Bucky probably didn’t care that much in this universe.
@@naveenchandra2629 Not how that works.
@@supermysticsonic2 but what if.... it did
Best part of that episode was when the chair turns around and Scott says “Maclunky”
Scott Lang is George Lucas
What is that a reference to? Sounds familiar but I can’t quite place it
@@waverider6302 to understand you must fight 9 and a half wars
@@waverider6302 Greedo in George Lucas re-edit #69
@@PulseAnimations878 oh isn’t it Greedos last words?
If I had a nickel for every time Hank Pym doomed the earth, I would have two nickels, which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
Nice Phineas & Ferb reference
Except it wasn't Hank Pym who doomed the earth in the original Marvel Zombies, it was Reed Richards messing around with portals to alternate dimensions.
@@lutherheggs451 he’s talking about episode 3 of what if
@@juanportal2575 IDK if Hank does doom that world. Nick will have both Captains...almost certainly at some point Steve gets Mjolnir. Honestly, it's more Avengers 2.0 with Strange and T'Challa certainly joining up and all the other non OG Avengers still potentially out there other than Vision w/o Stark
@@rubaiyat300 wait would strange still become a sorcerer in this universe or would the cultural changes of living under Loki affect him too much
Marvel Zombies? More like Hank fucks up the Marvel Universe: Part Two
if i had a nickel for every time hank pym caused the deaths of the avengers in what if, i'd have two nickels.
it isn't much, but it's weird that it happened twice.
Now they just need to make him the creator of Ultron (like he should be) in the 'Ultron wins' episode & then we can have a complete *Bad Bloke Pym* trilogy
What if...?
More like Hank Pym ruins everything.
@@ItsTheGuy77 that guy just can't stop coming up with ways to fuck up the Marvel universe huh?
Why blame Hank for something done to him? If a rabid animal attacks you, do you blame the animal or the rabies?
"Guys, I have a plan"
*Vision has left the game*
I get that spiderman and antman would be cracking jokes all the time since it's their thing, but i feel like a lot of characters lacked maturity considering this was literally a zombie apocalypse.
Exactly that ruined the episode 4 me
Kids show
@@4LiveRastaJoy Well yes but last episode was like adult asf
Happy continuing to "Blam!" as he's being dragged to his death/zombification was just too dumb.
For some of it, particularly Peter and Scott, I viewed it more as them coping with it. I think I agree with you overall though, there were just a bit too many quips for a pretty silver situation.
I really appreciate that this episode both did the Sling Ring portal decapitation and the Antman going inside Thanos & growing to explode them fan theories/jokes pre-Endgame
They did the growing inside someone kill in the one where hank pym was a killer
@@bigchungus7050 He just grew Hulk's heart in that one. Would've been way more obvious if Hank had just been standing there after Hulk exploded
@@exzyyd392 you're right, that was not the same at all
It didn’t do the Antman v Thanos butthole thing though cause it wasn’t against Thanos. Even the Hulk one was technically his own heart growing through him right, not Hank who may have been squished?
I always thought if they tried the ant man thing to Thanos nothing would happen because thanis beat the shit out of the hulk so ant man would just get crushed by Thanos and he would just shit out bones and guts
The watcher witnessing the moment that started the zombie apocalypse:
“Oof.”
The Watcher is like “Damn, that sucks”
The Watcher has now Canonical said Oof
“Oof.”
I didn’t get why vision didn’t wait to take out his stone until after they were all safely on the plane, that could have saved like two extra lives.
Plot!
They needed the stone and he didn't want to leave
They did need the stone.
So the movie can happen!
Wow wow wow.
@@Mayydayy86 this comment is tight!
Seems like Hope should’ve kept the ants that instantly eat zombies around. She kinda just uses them once and forgets about it. Also having a literal army of big ants you could definitely take on a zombie hoard.
i accept the small ones but can you imagine huge zombie ants walkin around
well the what if writers are literally no names, does that surprise you ?
Maybe she had to be careful how often she used her Pym particles serum stuff.
Characters have to be dumb for the story to work
Characters have to be dumb for the story to work
I hated when hope sacrificed herself i was like “shrink down bitch we finna have a titan zombie walking around this mf!!”
What’s stupid is how she just lets them eat her up, like just swat them away from your face first
exactly. also I thought she'd de-suit or something to make sure a zombified version of her doesn't infect people the way antman did
would not really matter, the Zombies know how to use things, she would have figured out how to become big while a zombie, at some point. She would have to get nekkid right before she died and she didnt have time.
Zombie Ant-Man literally changes size at the start
@@nyuan15 Or at least take the pym particles out of the suit and crush the vials or something to disable the suit.
My biggest criticism with this show is that each episode isn’t an hour, with 30 minutes you get no time to really explore anything and really flesh out those ideas, it’s just always here’s the decent concept-race to the finish line.
It would be cool if we got a separate series for this
You do good story telling in 30 minutes there’s better shows that do that but Marvel can’t do that
It’s unfortunately very similar to the 23ish pages of the original what if comics
“Flesh” out zombie humor haha
@@1kbmahan Marvel does it with a ton of shows, but nice try. What if is trying to cram entire worlds and hours worth of lore into 30 minutes. There's a massive difference.
“I got Sharon all over me” that was in poor taste to me😂 she was just one of the last survivors and a close friend id assume.
yeah, this episode was fun and all, but like episode 3 with the murder mystery there's too much inappropriate tonal shifts. Too many jokes at the wrong time, like Scott making a joke when his friend Kurt dies.
@@pakochanchan881 yeah, the Kurt death joke was a very bad timing
"You killed the zombie Hawkeye!"
"He was a zombie?"
I understood that reference.
the world is literally overrun by zombie
The Avenger : ight imma head out with no protection gear what so ever on a bridge full with zombies
I mean iron man had armour and...yea it didn't help
@@misterroyale6519 looking at the clip again when it was shown here,Black Panther was on the bridge and later he was fine. Should have had that vibranium suit Tony!
MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY. Like wtf is this amateur writing
@@seabassrun they probably didn’t know how big the threat was yet
@@galaxymoonlqght3732 They could have looked. With their eyes. At the ground. Neither Tony or T'Challa had any knowledge? they both agreed "yeah lets just get on in there"?
This episode made me want to see Spidey and Wasp interact in the movies one day. I loved their dynamic here!
That was definitely my favorite part.
@@jaminelvers7250 Kids got a heart and this is why spider man's death is destined in no way home.
Spider-Man: Hey everyone.
Literally any adult superhero within a five mile radius: (starts signing adoption papers)
It's weird cause didn't Wasp hate Spidey in the comics?
@@avanishdutta2658 lmao if you think spiderman is going to die in no way home then you are going to be dissapointed
I felt like most people were actively trying to be zombified in this episode
This felt really weird to me, like none of the characters cared about anything or had any serious emotions. They just brutalised their zombified friends and then cracked a dumb joke.
Yeah it was the epitome of when people say that the mcu ruins the tension with jokes... I dont normally have a problem with that but this episode felt like a Scary Movie sequel 😶
Go watch DC. This is marvel's formula
@@dejuanhickman3175 it's been stale for years now
@@dorianjareth9198 to you but millions still love it. Until marvel gets some competition you gotta deal with it.
@@dejuanhickman3175 Marvel had those bad tension breaking moments, but it has never been as bad as in this episode. (Except for the graveyard scene in Black Widow of course)
I was shocked at the level of gore Disney let Marvel get away with in this one. I guess it’s the most we are gonna get for a Marvel Zombies adaptation but still shockingly violent for Disney.
What gore? Some bones and missing skin?
@@wmcarter6096 Human dismemberments (decapitation & slicing bodies in half), human body parts when they explode, etc. Gore doesn’t necessarily mean just blood and guts.
It makes me sad how low the bar is for Disney that people are shocked they showed barely any gore lol.
@@Anthonycheesman33 it’s shocking in context, like, you don’t expect real guns in nick jr or something, even if it’s not something horrible, it would shock you to see one
@@Anthonycheesman33 Oh no, I was expecting this episode was going to be PG-13/TV-14 like the rest of the MCU lot. I was just surprised at how much gore they let Marvel do is all.
Vision: My Work here is done
Bucky: But you didn't do anything?
Vision: Didn't I?
*Kills Self*
😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣 hilarious every time
I really liked the interactions between Peter and Hope. Kinda gave a little brother-big sister vibe. I also really liked Peter’s talk about how he manages to stay positive. The Cloak of Levitation and Scott were also highlights of the episode IMO.
Scott (and some plot holes) dragged the episode down
@@tonylozano1728 ok, I was just talking about my opinion lol
I was amazed that this was the first time Uncle Ben and Peter’s parents were mentioned in the MCU. And Wasp turning giant, hope that happens in Quantumania!
Uncle Ben was 'mentioned ' in the first spiderman movie, just not directly
Uncle Ben has been mention in mcu atleast once
@@thehellyousay8571 that "mention" is just a nod to source material,you wont ever see him , introducing ben's death now would ridiculous after he just got over starks death.
@@Tannerj50 I never said you would see him, nor did I say they should introduce his death, your comment was weird.
@@thehellyousay8571 weird? Nah it was relevant,You brought up uncle Ben and I mentioned how he's irrelevant at this point , nothing weird about it.
They were literally cracking jokes while making their zombie friends expload from within......
I don't mind the MCU's quips. But at tim es it does get annoying. Especially when it's overdone. Like the ones that immediately undercut every serious moment
It was overdone in this for me. It was quip-palooza. Personally, not a fan. Especially couldn't stand Antman in this. And I usually like him
@@ItsTheGuy77 Ant made me LOL with the wingaurdium leviosa, and when she threw the zomb at the jet, but yeah, the humour was too much given the circumstances.
"Guys, I've got Carol all over me". I was like damn, a little too soon isn't it?
@@ItsTheGuy77 usually im on marvels side and some movies do kinda over quip things.... but my goodness this episode made me nauseous lmao
That's why I hate this show. The characters act NOTHING like themselves
Also loved seeing Bucky wield the shield and guns at the same time just like he does when he is Captain America
What if... It's evil Dr strange who assembles a team of people who lost their universes and that's when the watcher steps in???
That sounds so much like DC's metal event. The batman who laughs collects alternative versions of batmen who's universes are doomed & attack the main universe
@Latest Obsession he’s been becoming more and more defined. That being that it seems to me his appearances in the past were like outlined in the stars or sky. This week we can like see him almost in fall
I want this!
That could totally lead into an Exiles series.
What if the watcher interferes by recruiting Dr. Strange, Cpt. Carter, Starlord T’challa, Spider-Man with a cape, etc. to save some universes?
I think bucky should have shown maybe more emotion to the fact he had to cut his friend in half
Its not the capt, its just a dead body
And this was a more "Dark Humor" or "Shaw of the dead" take in Marvel zombies.
@@chrislatam5423 I understand if this was meant to be a dark comedy but it to me definitely had a tone issue
And I think the tone issue could have been fixed if the zombies were closer to the comic
We needed all the Walking Dead actors in a What if Zombie episode
- Michael Rooker as Yondu
- Danai Gurira as Okoye
- Jon Bernthal as The Punisher
- Ross Marquand who has taken over from Hugo Weaving as Redskull
- And Lauren Ridloff who will be Makkari in the Eternals
That legit sounds like the dumbest idea I've ever heard
Would have been a fun nod but the most random group of characters I've ever seen
I can't imagine a good story coming out of this, but credit where credit is due, I did in fact wonder "What If?"
I love the fact that vision turned so easily, they just had to tell him: "dude, stop it with the evil shit"
That's the great thing about Vision, you can reason with the guy!
Tchalla could reason with Thanos but not the vision lmao
"The love of my life is now a zombie and while she is dead, I will keep her corpse around and feed it with innocent people including a superhero who's the king of the last and most powerful nation on earth."
"Yeah man, that's kinda mean."
"You are correct, I will now kill myself"
Who wrote this shit?
Except he's operated from emotional pain which is clouding his judgement. If he was still thinking reasonable he wouldn't do this at all.
I hope there’s a part two to this episode. I’d love to see these Apocalyptic Avengers vs Zombie Thanos.
Maybe when all hope is lost, Thor, Groot, & Rocket show up last second to back them up.
It's a shame they didn't bring the shrink car or the size changing flying ants with them on the train. They could have been pretty useful for getting to the base.
Oh good grief you made me remember that Wasp used flesh-eating ants to get rid of the zombies in the beginning and then literally never again 😑
Reminds me of the "why didnt the Gandalf and the gang ride those eagles to Mordor from the get go" argument 😂
I really loved the sorta big sibling relationship between Hope and Peter. Would love to see this in live action if they ever are in another movie together.
I loved it too! Technically she's old enough to be his mom but the relationship definitely felt like siblings rather than parental.
If they dialed back the jokes by about 90% this wouldve been way better
I love how Kurt was freaking out about Baba Yaga being nearby and minutes later its revealed zombie wanda is being kept there, meaning he was right about an evil Witch after all
I'm really hoping for a whole show on this. Just a 6 part series. First episode we can see the Avengers come together after Civil War which they just brushed off here. They could have an episode of Thanos arriving. Maybe one for Vision luring people in.
But specifically I wanna see Thor and the Guardians show up. See how maybe things are going in space. There's so much to do here!
Flashnash
Yeah Thanos just showed up at the end and it kinda threw me off. Like what even happened in Wakanda? I'd want another episode to flesh the story at but at the same time this episode left a sour taste in my mouth so I don't really care.
@Wally Webbs going for the head,the best way to kill a zombie.
It is a whole show
Groot would be op
Seeing zombie Thanos with the Gauntlet was insane!
Foreal! I loved how they ended another episode with a dark tone, like you know the universe is fucked.
i wonder how the hulk’s skin was durable enough to not get bitten but thanos’ was🤔
@@owaindavies1076 yeah, it made no sense. The ending kinda ruined it.
It was a really cool visual! But why was he in Wakanda? He has literally no reason to be there.
I can’t believe Mephisto made Corn of Coblin a zombie… this episode was so sad
boosting this comment, rip coblin
I think this episode was way too funny, and the characters are not taking their situation very seriously. The MCU is clearly capable of being serious (looking at the early part of Endgame) and this would have been a great chance to do good horror.
LMFAO you aren't going to get horror from Disney or Disney+...They don't care about the 40 year olds who want super cereal horror, just doing what they did for the episode probably stretched what would be allowed.
@@lutherheggs451 Thank you! the 40 years old especially made me laugh. these dudes expect too much and I say this as person who the MCU to death.
The fact that this followed up from the downer episode with Doctor Strange makes it all the worse, because it shows that the show is capable of making serious material.
@@lutherheggs451 I think doctor strange 2 won’t have as much comedy though
@@giornogiovanna2038 saying you love the mcu to death isn't a good argument, because that means you're more likely to defend them (which you just did here).
The Watcher, a cosmic being with boundless knowledge and vast powers, viewing the destruction of a universe to a zombie virus that kills many of the greatest heroes:
*”Oof. That happened.”*
Episode 1 and 2: Your typical Action-Adventure Comedy episodes
Episode 3: Murder Mystery episode
Episode 4: Romantic Drama episode
Episode 5: Zombie Apocalypse episode
I’d give episode 2 a little more credit as an Oceans 11 style heist, but other than that, completely agree and enjoy what they are going with
@@Backtothezack Ahh, so Episode 2 is a Heist episode. Thanks for noticing!
Episode 1 was a war pop action episode
Episode 2 was a heist episode
Episode 4 Romantic Drama? What?!
How about Time Travel? Cosmic Horror?
@@blyzer7373 Strange lost Christine in a car crash. There some battles like in the original, but the episode focus to save her. In one scene he reversed time and time again to save Christine, but fails missrably. There is a final scene when Strange tried to save the world, he notice the Watcher to fix this. But he refuse and blame Strange for he commited. Then he said he wants to punish himself and letting the world and the woman he loved lived, the Watcher still refuses and leaves him in sorrow.
TLDR, Just read the episode title and BTW, I get your point, it was a time travel cosmic horror episode with a bit of a drama to get some tense and the lore of the plot of the episode itself.
The group of ppl that were together and how they interacted was really cool to see.
One thing I’m noticing from the WHAT IF’s is how powerful AntMan is. The multiple ways the pym characters can kill is mind blowing.
Pym is easily one of the most OP characters. His morals kept him in check. They had to depower him by making the tech faulty then making him a fugitive for the MCU.
Think of civil war fight scene but morals off. Who wins that fight if it's fight to kill?
@@Gandalfmandalf everyone with decent reaction slills that can cath antman even if he's little
I feel like when Bucky literally kills his best friend with his own shield, he shouldn’t make a joke immediately after.
It wasn't as much a joke as it was a reference that they'll be together until the end of the line from first avenger
It really wasn't a joke, it was a solem reference to their line in TFA. They were together until the end of the line.
It wasn’t a joke, it was a reference, and sticking to their promise. He was with him to the end of the line.
@@gabrxael it honestly made bucky sound like if he had some jealous intentions over cap
I don't think they ever said this was going to be a kid show. They probably expected more kids would watch this than the other Disney+ shows but then again, this show is way darker than all of them combined. Just because it's animated doesn't mean it's for kids.
It is rated TV-14, so not meant specifically for kids. It’s more like a PG-13 movie.
the past 3 episodes have been kinda dark for a kid's show to be honest.
One of the of the other disney plus shows has a character set pows, and their families on fire.
Yeah I'm confused by the "kids show" comments. That Doctor Strange ep was dark, depressing and messed up. I loved it, but it did leave me feeling icky afterwards. I can imagine it scarring young kids.
This zombie ep was the opposite and felt way too jokey leading me to just not care. That was not the tone to take with this subject matter.
screw kids
Clearly nobody cared about Agent Carter cause she one second she's human the next she turns, Wasp kills her and then immediately quips about it 😂
This is why she became so bitter.
Whatever happened to Disney's no beheading rule?
Also that Black Panther line in the quinnjet got me right in the feels.
Thanos was beheaded in the beginning if Endgame.
@@supermysticsonic2 That could have been an exception. The way Thor cut into him seems like he cut into the shoulder. Plus we never saw the head.
Edit: we did see the head my bad
@@GC-ps9mn That's not true at all. We literally see Thanos's head fly off his shoulders. You need a link?
@@GC-ps9mn wasn't his head literally lying on the floor
@@GC-ps9mn you need to watch endgame again bro
Hudson Thames is a cool guy. He really goes with the flow.
Remember when people were speculating that the Zombies episode was going to take place during Captain America: Civil War?
Placing it during Infinity War was WAY crazier, and it definitely paid off tbh
In retrospect we should’ve known it was Infinity War since Tony was in his cutting edge suit
Yeah I never understood why people thought that when Iron Man had his Infinity War armour and Spider-Man was an established hero in all the promotional material.
@@goonishereva ITS NANO TECH
Honestly, infinity war played basically NO role in this episode. Thanos and the stones are forgot about for the entirety of the episode
@Wally Webbs You do not always have to defend marvel lol
This What If? Series reminds me of a telltale game, imagine if they made a game series like this with soo many possibilities in the Marvel universe.
million dollar idea
Still waiting on Wolf Among Us 2. Thanks for reminding me that Telltale existed :'(
Why? What about this is remotely similar? The art style? Yep that’s all..
The only questions I had at the end of this episode were: When did Thanos get the time stone?.. And how is Thanos even a zombie when he has 5 infinity stones?... Other than that, I enjoyed it! 😁👍
Same with iron man, the guy in the airtight suit that can fly, being instantly turned into a zombie
Well, Zombie Strange's corpse was left in New York, so he probably showed up there instead of going to Titan, and got jumped by the entire New York Zombie population. MY biggest question is... why is he in Wakanda? What purpose could he possibly have for going there while Vision was in an American army base?
@@insertclevernamehere1186 but even then he shouldnt have bled that easily tony had a hard trouble making thanos bleed and it was a scratch, so taking that tony is decapitated and dead and strange is also dead there isnt anyone out there who can make him bleed or infect him like that
@@josejeronimo4409 They made a point of specifying that the infection was spread through "saliva", so I think we can all safely assume that Thanos made out with a zombie.
@@Taurusus Well in the comics he simps for the female personification of death so... he clapped them undead cheeks
I’m not convinced that was Scott Lang, I think it was “Mac and Me”s very own Paul Rudd as the head.
Peter being meta and being totally aware of their horror movie situation was absolute gold ahahah
rip happy though, will miss his blam blam
Are you saying blam?
BLAM!
should of DBL tapped The Wasp though... Rookie mistake
yet he still insists its best to keep a bitten person alive (which he doesnt acknowledge, and that also would totally have gotten them all killed if hope hadnt died anyway lmaoo)
I thought the Dr Strange episode was spookier/darker, this episode balanced off most things with some jokes (e.g. this is the end of the line), with the only scary, and disturbing thing, was T'challa being used as livestock which was taken from the comics sure, but considering Vision isn't a zombie while doing it, it made it scarier. I definitely enjoyed the episode though, it was a fun ragtag team and had a lot of fun moments.
To me, this episode is really rushed, and rushing in a supposedly "horror" genre is a bit mismatch. Also, why are there too many jokes? It feels like every 2 seconds, a new joke emerged, even when it was a scene when a close friend just died. It's just weird. Spider-Man looks too relaxed, even tho in the movie, he was literally crying whenever something bad happened. Scott Lang is just a comic relief. Bucky is just heartless, he didn't show any emotions upon witnessing his "friends" got chopped down in two. I know at that point his friends were already gone, but come on. The previous episode is better when it comes to horror, even tho it might not be intended to be one.
there’s a couple things in this episode that I thought “meh I don’t know if that’s actually how it would happen.” but i still enjoyed the episode
These heroes were strangely upbeat and quippy for living in a zombie apocalypse lmao
Fax
Shock
For people who were actively looking for a cure for their friends they didn't seem to have much hesitancy at all about killing said friends
Well, it's like Spider-Man said on the train, "I've lost a lot. But my Aunt May says... well, used to say... that if we don't keep smiling when they can't, then we might as well just be gone too."
Just decapitated my best friend time for a joke
I laughed so hard when I saw that it was called What If Zombies, after each one told you exactly what was going to happen.
The thing that bothered me this episode is how Tony got infected in the first encounter. Like, how? He's literally clad in hich tech armor. Would be nice of them to show a quick shot of Hank shrinking and going through the cracks but this version of zombies doesn't seem to have that kind of mental capacity.
My brother said the same thing. My reply....We know Cap gets infected right away, so he turns pretty quickly, and we also know Cap can bust his way through Tony's armor. Aside from Hank going small, I can't think of any other way. Also, yes, I do think they have the brains (ha ha) for that. The first zombie thing we see, is Dr. Strange and Tony, doing a team attack. Portal blast. If they can do that, they can plan other stuff out.
I love the random character meetings. Told me a year ago next year I’d get to see Spider Man, Happy, and Kurt film a zombie apocalypse survival video I’d call you insane
Right? That was my absolute favorite thing about this episode. Having characters that haven't even met, interacted or teamed up in the MCU doing so in this episode. That was just awesome to watch.
Yeah, the unexpected random team-up is one of the great joys of Marvel comics, and now that the MCU has over a decade of characters built up it’s something they’re able to do as well
Where is Kurt from? I was having such a hard time trying to remember what movie this guy was from
@@blazefoster5845 Ant Man, he is the russian hacker friend. It's the guy who played Polka Dot Man in The Suicide Squad.
My favourite episode yet, felt a real cut above the rest tbh. Kinda made me want a whole series on this concept
Read the comics
I was thinking the same thing. I actually would have loved for this to be a feature film
@@4LiveRastaJoy ummmmm no?
The Watcher steps in during the last episode, and becomes The Mostly Watching. The 90% Watching.
The cape was the real MVP this episode
That sort of 'tone deafness' of comedy not meshing well with serious scenes was exactly the same complaint I had. Though couldn't it be argued those 'quips' and 'jokes' occur in comics already, we're just used to them?
I think it depends on not only the character, but the writer of the book. For instance, Deadpool in Uncanny X-Force, though still mildly humorous, express real disdain and conflict over what they did to Kid Apocalypse and Logan wasn't exactly cracking jokes after he drowned his son Daken. Another example is Cap's conflict over what to do about Winter Soldier in Brubaker's run that inspired the movie. The DnA run of GOTG, the cosmic books in general really, had dark humor throughout the run, but always handled the killing of enemies and death of comrades quite appropriately. Tony's alcoholism and the consequences of it weren't treated as a laughing matter. The Scarlet Witch's madness was handled without comedy. Captain Marvel's death was a pretty somber affair. The death of Gwen Stacy wasn't treated as a joke. When Blink, Illyana, Nightcrawler, or Jean Grey/Phoenix (Initially) died in X-Men, it was most certainly not immediately followed up with a quip.
Just saying, not all comics treat death so glibly. This seems to be a newer thing over the last decade. For me, it's a fourth wall break that I don't really appreciate.
Of course they don't make good horror - but - still a cool series.
Wdym? they make great horror haven’t you seen captain marvel ayoooooo
@@mattrandazzo5491 Oh a captain marvel joke. Never heard that one!
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A bit too short for me, I'd love to see continuations for this and the Chris Pratt teaser in a series 2 if that becomes a thing, maybe we see a few episodes become mini ongoing series
Other than Supreme Dr Strange, I feel every episode thus far feels like COULD be followed up if they wanted to
what if either zombie thanos travels to the t'chala star lord timeline or ego travels to the zombie timeline and both their cliffhangers get solved in a single episode
This show is making the characters we know feel more like comic book characters. Having their own storylines and then meeting in offshoot stories like this one where we get to see interactions we haven’t seen before. We got a taste in the crossovers like endgame but this is awesome to see.
I really appreciate edits like SEVEN and Let me tell you, James. Always great work on these, Collings.
Big love Otadoe < 3
I hope all these dark endings are going to be used as examples for why Kang set up the "sacred timeline"
the sacred timeline is just any timelines that don't lead to the creation of kang. he doesn't care about these ones.
My theory: The ninth and final episode won't be a "what if..." its going to be about The Watcher. I'd guess it starts with a quick senario that he is showing us, and he interferes with it to help some people out, and then we get to see that THOSE ramifications are.
"What if The Watcher..."
Bucky got yeeted to the shadow realm, Jesus, out of all of the ways to die that has to be the most abrupt one.
How did he die again? Scarlett tossed him into zombies?
To be fair, he doesn't explicitly land in the horde, and he's survived larger falls.
I think it's really just the cast of characters they chose to be the survivors. Just about all of them are jokesters. Happy is comedic relief in the Iron Man and Spider-Man movies, Kurt is comedic relief and from a comedy series of movies, Scott and Peter are already designed to be funnier characters, then you have Hope and Okoye which are the straigtmen of their movies and that's a form of comedy, and Bruce became more of a jokey character with Ragnarok and Infinity War, which then leaves Bucky and Sharon. More than half your crew are funny people, whether they're trying or not. At the same time though, when the episode does go dark, it gets pretty dark, so the levity is not unwanted. After rewatching the episode, it got a lot better than upon first watch, so I think it definitely works as an episode, but it's not as strong as it could be.
I just really want more content in this universe, even just another episode with the few Avengers left running from Zombie Thanos would suffice, since it would feel a lot more tense
Once Thanos get a hand of the last infinity stone, also the mind stone bear that in mind, he might wish for him and all the zombies to have (their) consciousness (be brought back). Voila, we now got Marvel zombies-esque approach.
That would be a really interesting subversion to have zombie Thanos end up winning and saving the day.
I didn’t feel like anyone was safe I think it’s the first time I really felt that with marvel. Tony was a surprise but this was any minute dead. I hope Bucky still alive
The Chandler and Monica clip was the perfect visual for what they were saying 🤣🤣🤣
Fantastic editing as always Rob Collins - the jar visual gag was great 👌🏻
Everything we’ve had on Uncle Ben so far in the MCU has been, “when you can do the things that I can and you don’t, “everything she’s been through” and the suitcase
Big twist, Uncle Ben didn't die, he was just a dickhead and left them
Zombie Scarlet Witch is spooky
Marvel zombies 1 reintroduced me to comic books as an adult. The series as a whole is such an amazing read.
09:57 Black Panther's speech reminds me of Robin William's speech at the end of Night at the Smithsonian 3; like they both knew what was coming
Outside of this timeline having zombies, this is probably the only timeline where Grand Central station has trains that go to NJ. (Trains in Grand Central station either stay in Manhattan, go to the Bronx, Brooklyn, Queens, or go further north into NY state or Connecticut.)
Episode was fine. Waaaaaay too quippy for me. The dialogue felt like 75% humor so I couldn’t take the scenes that were dramatic or supposed to be scary seriously. I think the doctor strange episode was a better balance, probably my favorite of episodes this far.
The humor and tone worked for me. My favorite episode so far.
Ben your editing skills are unmatched. I see all the subtle stuff you do and I am constantly impressed every video. Appreciate you
I feel a lot of people give Hope a ton of flack for turning into a zombie in giant form, but also, the zombies seem to keep the knowledge and ability of there tech, magic, skills, etc. So, Zombie Hope likely could’ve just turned giant even if she did turn little before dying
Yup, but everyone loves to complain about small issues that they don’t think through because they’re so caught up with their anger.
Also, I believe there’ll be another Zombies episode
Honestly the first thing that came to my mind was that scene of a tiny Hank biting Steve, figures the end twist was gonna be a tiny Hope on the Quinjet
Well, what I thought is that she should have left her costume behind, I mean, without it she's just a normal woman that knows kung-fu
@@feliperodriguezmunoz8155 if the Avengers retain their knowledge to use their powerset/abilities then it’s not out of the question if Zombie Hope did the same moves
@@thelastsith2706 yes, I know, that's why I said she shouldn't have kept her costume after getting bitten. I mean if she became small she could have killed everyone just like ant man bit captain in the flashback. They could have used Dr strange cape to fly everyone, one at a time, without that sacrifice and leave the suit to anyone else instead of losing it.
I know is just an episode of 30 minutes and those holes in the script are needed to make impressive scenes and to move the plot, but for me it was kind of silly.
Can we talk about how Spider-Man looks literally nothing like Tom Holland
He was so tall and buff!
I read somewhere that the characters whose actors couldn't return had to be changed a little bit due to copyright's image, like with Black Widow, so perhaps the same happened to Peter
I love the editing the Friends 7 scene in the video. So funny!!!
Oooooo that edit and sync up to Monica saying Seven was 👌
My ideal zombies plot would start in Civil War, with the catalyst being that henchman dropping the chemical, except in this universe it wasn’t caught
there were far too many jokes for how grim the situation was
Good timing on the video editing!
I especially liked the part where Not Tom Holland had to fight a zombified Corn of Coblin, great use of the extended Spider-Man rouges gallery
Just glad they finally mentioned uncle Ben
My favorite part of the episode was when John Krasinski teamed up with Mephisto to defeat the zombified Corn Of Coblin. Brought a tear to my eye.
I love your editing skills and timing 😃
Another banger vid Collins! Thanks!
Youuuuu absolute top bloke doing it again - top weekend to you KO < 3
Let Okoye take the lead, she's got tons of experience with killing zombies!
I like how they made a team of some of the funniest marvel characters lol I loved the quips tbh
And Sharon Carter.
honestly i hate them for joking every damn minute, how am i supposed to be scared, the joke even so dry that i have to drink multiple times
Top notch edit, RAW and outsourced crew!!!
The whole huge team will appreciate it mate, thank you!!
Thank you for featuring my drawing at 11:45 :)