Was What If A Success? - What If Episode 9 Breakdown
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- Episode 9 of Marvel’s What If… asks the question The Watcher Broke His Oath? The end result is a real group of oddbods with The Guardians Of The Multiverse consisting of Captain Carter, Dark Doctor Strange, Party Thor, Kilmonger, Star Lord, Gamora and Black Widow taking on Infinite Ultron. Was this a fitting conclusion to the series? Thanks for watching this review!
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Strange Supreme absolutely carried that team. It wasn't even close.
He always carries
@@321criko123 Yeah, but in that battle he literally did like 99% of the work if you exclude the Zola arrow.
Legit even Ultron was like "Yo I kill you I win"
@Ash Correll and captain marvel
@@Aleph-Noll She shouldn't even be in the MCU
The most groundbreaking part of the finale was having a Tony Stark still living and breathing by the end
Who was the big bad in his and gamoras universe?
I'm sure that's because we only saw a few seconds from that universe, and not the whole thing, and that episode probably was the one that was pushed...
@@Jaksi-a are you telling me… that there is absolutely zero hope for Tony in this series at all?
@@ashtonlee7766 he isnt saying that, Marvel apparently is 😂
@@quanny3324 grand master maybe
"Thor Ragnarok with Tony Stark and Gamora" sounds so fucking awesome, too.
Iron Man: Ragnarok sounds cool too
Yes
I’m pretty sure it would’ve been based around avengers 1 times. Tony would’ve flown the nuke into the wormhole but it’d be; what if…Tony didn’t make it back from the wormhole, instead he ends up floating through space until he reaches another wormhole, ending up on saakar. He would’ve then built the suit and fought in the grandmasters arena in whatever order. Not sure how thanos killer gamora would’ve played out tho but I was most excited for this episode and was super let down….PS there’s a lego set based around this and the suit that Tony has transforms into a race car! You can see the wheels in the episode!! He was gonna build a saakarian hulk buster transformer 😂😂
It's confirmed to be moved to season 2 so you will find out!
There is a Lego set based on it.
*ultron destroys the entire universe*
Supreme Strange: nom nom tasty
When I saw that the first time I thought he ate the soul stone and I was so confused
Wtfuck was that about??
@@normak7041 wait he didn't eat the stone?
@@battleandjams no, he was consuming Ultrons "spells", its why ultron didnt just 1shot everyone.
The stone ended up in the robit
It was a galaxy not a universe
Pretty cool overall. It was kind of rushed but obviously 30 minutes shows have their limits, though they could've apporached it several ways regardless.
The dialogue always felt constantly rushed. Yeah, there’s thirty minutes to work with, but shows have had less and not rushed their screenplay.
@@PittsburghSonido Yes agreed. I suppose it's probably due to them just having to edit the original dialogue down too though.
@@i.m.crazee5195
Yeah, it doesn’t break my immersion in the show itself. Just a nitpick. The animation alone is marvelous imo.
It's a cartoon...
@@chand911 cool bro. Someone is giving their opinion. Ignore it if it's not for you. You'll live a happier life.
Episode 9 was my favorite for Heath Ledger’s performance as the Joker alone.
ok
Ahh what
I think some people commenting on this didn’t listen to the best/worst comic book performance podcast lol
@@archive_kev9958 oh definitely
@@archive_kev9958 Definitely my favourite podcast episode just for Heath Ledger's performance as the Joker alone
I feel a bit cheated that we didn't get the Tony and Gamora episode. Apparently we have to wait to season two.
Yeah but you can’t really blame me or was because of covid
Covid is the cause
@@mememanbehindtheshadows546 What a bullshit excuse. They’re a multi billion dollar company and covids been around for damn near 2 years now. So tired of hearing “covid” every time a company fails nowadays
@@michaelthatoker7125 bro, a multi billion dollar company can’t do shit about having to quarantine if an employee gets covid. It’s not about money slowing them down. It’s the actual production being halted
@@bootmanbill2362 Yeah and you’re acting like if ONE of them got covid, the whole production would have to be halted. That’s not how these productions work not to mention that even if they had an outbreak, they only have to quarantine for a couple weeks and you literally won’t get it again for a long ass time after that. Even if they did get covid and had to quarantine, you can still work from home , especially on something like this that’s animated so wtf are you talking about. This whole pandemic is exaggerated. Most people who get it have it for literally a day or two max. Obviously there’s extreme examples…..less than 2% end up being like that. It’s a shitty excuse and I’m tired of it.
Hopefully we get to see the Gamora and Tony episode in the next season!
Yeah. I saw that part and had to go back in the episode menu to see if I had just missed a full episode.
Was that the Thanos-buster suit?
It was already confirmed to be in the next season. They just pushed it back.
Clearly not because they’ve already been introduced now lol
@@tomwardle lol Yoo facts I did the same thing 😂
Thor screaming when The Watcher grabbed him was hilarious😂
VIVA LAS VEGAS!!!
This is my new favorite Thor haha I love it
it was a Ragnarok easter egg
Tbf wouldn’t you scream if you had a giant bald guy grabbing you
What they did with party Thor in his two episodes was absolutely my favorite part of the show.
If I was the Watcher I'd get like a thousand Doctor Strange's, a billion Thor's, and a trillion Captain Marvel's.
Your head must be bigger than his.
I always felt like, if there's an infinite number of universes, there must be several where Ultron has the infinity stones but has decided protect all intelligent life rather than destroy it. Just get a few of those, and let them fight the bad one.
I try to think of how Dr. Strange was like there's only one way to the good outcome. This team was just going to be the one to do it, no matter how off they seemed.
Also, was it just me or were they pushing against Killmonger was right/fair people?
Yeah we would just get living tribunal to shut off the universe like he did in what if korvac won!
I think he only had an hour.
I spent the whole episode going “where tf did Gamora and Tony come from” thinking Id totally missed something. Covid robbed us again.
I just wish they had made it to not be so confusing for the audience, like Strange asking "were we supposed to take this one" and the Watcher saying he got her in a hurry or something.
There where going to be 10 episode but they cut one so I think that what the episode was going to be.
It's apparently postponed to season 2
The duplication spell Strange did on Thors hammer was pretty sick.
So many Jonathans.
So Dr Strange's destiny is to wait for a long time in every universe that he's in? Even in the main MCU timeline, the Dormammu bit probably took ages and ages. He's the man who's got time.
The two whole lines Ego spoke in these two episodes must've been outtakes from Kurt Russell from Guardians vol 2... Im sure hes not even aware hes in this
Yeah I strongly doubt they brought him into studio just to do two lines
Lol they would’ve had to legally tell them he is in it🤣
@@jasongreen6826 And they would have had to pay him for his voice appearance.
@@jasongreen6826 i was joking
Yeah it was weird he didn’t get much of follow up on that. That and kill monger episode.
I love that Disney is really committed to Georges St.Pierre's, Batroc the Leaper and I hope he comes back for many more films and t.v. series.
George St.Pierre deserves the love
Sucks that he died in Falcon and the Winter Solider. Would have loved for him to be a reoccurring low-level bad guy. MCU needs more villains who are basically just glorified henchmen.
Sharon Carter: I'm going to end this man's career
@@groovymovies390 He could just show up again with a line like: "I always wear a bulletproof vest, in case some idiot tries to shoot me!"
@@mathiaswalker350 I'd actually love it if they did that
I believe, if they get the soul stone Ultron can’t just get another one because he can’t make a sacrifice for one.
It's probably just because thats the least useable one in a fight, they tend to focus on Reality and Power in both Ultron and Thanos' case
What *does* the soul stone do, anyway? I get that there's a deleted scene in Infinity War where Thanos used the Soul Stone on the team at Titan and just basically ripped everyone's astral form from their physical self. Could it have managed to control the zombies though? Sort of like necromancy?
I think it powers the stone crusher. Cos once they get it it goes into it and activates. He doesn't need all 6 anyway cos he's not bothered about the snap.
@@firetruckabc I'm pretty sure this is it. I'm also assuming it would have been explained more either in the cut episode, like when they use it to defeat Thanos or whatever, or if this one had been longer.
@@TheJackedOLantern I think the soul stone lets the user know everyone who has a soul
Given how damaged the Infinity Gauntlet was after Thanos' Snap, I imagine Ultron might not want to exert that power for fear of destroying himself in his Android body
Synthetic organisms don't suffer the same decay as living ones
If he had an iPhone body he'd be fine.
@@umcThunder72 And you know this because?
@@umcThunder72 The infinity gauntlet was synthetic and was burnt to a crisp by the snap. If Ultron's vibranium body is acting as the "gauntlet" why wouldn't the same thing happen to him? I don't get your point
Agreed - Thanos only snapped half the universe, and it messed up the gauntlet pretty bad. Hulk brought back said half of the universe, and it turned his arm into a twiglet. If Ultron tried to snap his entire universe at once, pretty sure it would just melt him, hence why he’s doing it one planet at a time.
I interpreted their need for the Soul Stone to be that it would be the essential part of the Infinity Crusher which brought it to life and made it go to town on the other stones.
It’s probably a detail we missed in that missing episode. 🤷🏻♂️
Yeah, I got that too.
Or they just went with the one they laid their hands on.
@@wait....whatsmynameagain1099
Nah, they mentioned prior to that moment that they needed the soul stone specifically.
I dont get why the watcher chose that team, just get 5 Doctor Strangers have them do the duplication spell and dogpile Ultron with a trillion Stranges.
It's because nothing about it is logical, it's just random bullshit.
@@LapisPebble This
he handpicked that team so he could trap zola and kilmonger (what if the watcher interfered)
i think the idea was they all had a specific way to do things, thor drew him to them, killmonger had to betray to seperate the stones, gamora needed to "crush" the stones etc. etc. they all had a route to take to get the outcome of a trapped zola and killmonger
@@LiseNado why include Killmonger? Just get a Wanda to destroy them after they are separated.
For the deleted episode, it would’ve been based around avengers 1. Tony would’ve flown the nuke into the wormhole but it’d be; what if…Tony didn’t make it back from the wormhole. instead he ends up floating through space until he reaches another wormhole, ending up on saakar. He would’ve then built the suit and fought in the grandmasters arena in whatever order. Not sure how thanos killer gamora would’ve played out tho, but I was most excited for this episode and was super let down….PS there’s a lego set based around this and the suit that Tony has transforms into a race car! You can see the wheels in the episode!! He was gonna build a saakarian hulk buster transformer 😂😂
Maybe she’s the existing champion instead of Hulk?
Thanos is the grandmaster,Gamora Is the champion. They team up to kill Thanos before he starts collecting stones
I really liked how doctor strange was just so powerful in this that he really was just the biggest threat to ultron throughout.
My guess for who is in the Hydra Stomper: They winter soldier Steve. Steve gets captured during a mission, but instead of just losing his arm, his entire body is badly damaged and they fuse his body with the armor. Basically a big darth vader suit. They do the winter soldier thing and turn him into an assassin, unfreezing him between missions. The Steve that Peggy has just rescued is still indoctrinated, but has lost touch with his humanity feeling more machine than man.
That would be an incredible season 2 episode.
this actually happened in a what if comic where rogers never got the serum but the military gave him an iron man suit. but in order for it to work it must be bonded onto his body.
I'm wondering if they super-soldiered Steve like they did fir Bucky in the Winter Soldier program.
So maybe he will be big and buff now but twisted.m- and maybe missing an arm.
@theroburrito
Steve is gonna look Palpatine inside that armour. There’s was no mention of immortality/anti-aging juice.
I don't think the Hydra Stomper would be as useful as an assassin, since its a giant robot suit and those happen to be fairly noticeable.
I liked it overall. That makes sense that the episodes were supposed to be longer because a lot of them felt rushed. Glad to learn it wasn't intended to be that way.
What was clever is that they hinted at the real winning objective near the start of the episode when Strange and Uatu say “The only way to kill Ultron is by separating the stones from his body.” Strange remembered that at the end when he trapped Killmonger and Zola in the pocket dimension, and I really loved that detail.
In my culture, death is not the end. They are still with us, as long as we do not forget them.
Feels right to post this after the last we'll ever hear of Chadwick Boseman's warm, wonderful voice. He will be sorely missed,.
Tony and Gamora teaming up is obviously a nod to the Avengers: Infinity War trailer that made it seem like Tony and Gamora would have a conversation in the film but come the film no conversation was had.
Or a nod to iron man being a member of the guardians of the galaxy in some comics , even goes out with gamora at some points
@@caelenm1 i would say you are correct.
I love how this is the same week Scarlet settled her dispute with Disney and this ends with Widow returning to the Avengers here. Cosmic coincidence
And also the Black Widow movie dropped out of Premier Access onto Disney+ properly for all subs
Black Widow didn't return to the main MCU universe. She was brought to the universe where Hank Pym killed Hulk, Clinton, and Tony Stark.
What dispute?
More like comic coincidence
@@WiGgYof09yessir.
The soul stone powered the infinity crusher by giving it a soul.
Yeah. They didn't make it clear ahead of time that was why they needed the Soul Stone. Or why they crusher needed it. Maybe that was shown in the missing episode as well?
That was what I was thinking. It is the stone in Ultron's head. It is what makes him alive.
@@jermox the stone in his head is the mind stone in the MCU.
@@WiGgYof09 Dangit. I knew I should have looked it up first.
Living Tribunal was also referenced in Doctor Strange. When Strange is first training, they mention a Staff of the Living Tribunal.
11:35 Nerd Alert: The group that originally was in charge of the infinity stones was called the Infinity Watch and consisted of Gamora, Adam Warlock, Drax, Moon Dragon, Maxum, and Pip the Troll.
I’m still confused how Zola is a more powerful AI than Ultron. How was Ultron not able to fight off a guy who was essentially a dial up AI?
Not even an AI really, more like a voicemail with delusions of grandeur
Zola was not digital, he was an analog and thus ultron has to physically make connection with his server in Siberia but ultron is digital or simply everywhere
don't ya know, nothing beats german engineering
Ultron wasn’t expecting another AI to enter his body
@@niranjanr8075 that even speaks more to my point. Zola is 70’s rotary binary computing. This version of Ultron was built on the literal cosmic embodiment of soul, and prior to that was a planet destroying AI. And he couldn’t fight off matrix face?
Star Wars reference: Ultron thinks he killed the Guardians and turns away saying “All too easy.” which is what Vader said in Empire when he thought he had Luke.
Is anyone else worried that Strange Supreme's hand is going accidentally tentacle up like before and just smash that snow globe to bits? Like, "Don't worry Watcher, I'll take care of-Whoopsie! I got apocalypse all over the carpet."
Lol or maybe strange decides to team up with the bad guys like a criss cross
My immediate thought was that Strange would pop that miniverse in his mouth and suck on it like an Ed Edd and Eddy style jawbreaker. He eats powerful beings to get stronger, after all.
@@evan6338 For a second I thought he absorbed the soul stone. That would be cool. But now I'm imagining a much sillier scenario.
"Dormammu, I've come to scam!" Stephen Strange just trapping powerful beings and charging them 25¢ to leave.
I was bummed Carter's world basically ended up exactly the same as the MCU despite it being a radically different concept (Iron Monger in 1944). But I guess we needed that to get the connection to Natasha. I did call the heel turn of Zola and Killmonger, but assumed they'd just kill each other along with Strange.
I know it was shown to be this way in the MCU, but I did find it a little underwhelming how limited Ultron was in using the Stones. Like he could blast stuff all day sometimes to huge effect, but then he finally use the Time stone (shouldn't that have been how he first tried to get the Soul stone back) and then was stopped by Strange's Time stone....but he also has the Reality and Power stones to amp his effect. It's WHY having all the Stones is such a big deal...why even having two in one place was so dangerous.
I think Ultron didn't overuse the stones because the energy could have destroyed him similarly to the damage done to Thanos's Gauntlet. Of course, it's also just a writing issue that the Stones are so overpowered that they had to nerf them just for the story to make sense
@@Whiteythereaper It's weird cause we almost certainly will have new characters introduced that can throw down against a person not using the Stones effectively. Like Captain Marvel or Wanda level minimum. Frankly this would have been a good kind of story for Silver Surfer and Phoenix level mutants to be introduced if the Watcher needed folks to throw down against this kind of Ultron.
@@rubaiyat300 in a perfect universe, yeah. But they aren't going to introduce new heroes in What If, they save those for the movies.
@@rubaiyat300 it’s gonna take 10 years before they introduce them
They really neutered Ultron this episode after showing just how powerful he when fighting the Watcher. It as honestly super disappointing that they basically handicapped him and reduced his powers to "shoot multi-colored lasers".
19:48 pure gold, chef's kiss, compliments to the editor!
Cheeky RAW Collings! That little slip-in made my week! 🤣
I appreciate that this confirms that under the same circumstances Peggy just flat out lives the same life as Steve.
I’m sure eventually they’ll release the Gamora episode. People want to see more of this show so it would make sense to finish the episode and put it out in season 2 if that happens (tbh it’ll probably happen).
Implying she would have loved him? An odd possibility but who knows…
Heavy spoilers channel has said that they cut the episode and it will come in season 2
Season 2 was actually confirmed a while ago, along with confirmation that episode will show up there, as well as another Captain Carter episode and an episode based on the Black Widow movie (along with other phase 4 episodes)
@@KnowYourMarvelNews Actually a recent interview made it sound like we're not getting another Captain Carter episode despite an earlier interview making it sound like there would be one.
@@bruced09 Seems a little weird to me too cause I feel Gamora would get annoyed by his ego and kill him. This is a Gamora who killed Thanos and probably has more self-confidence, so maybe Stark is more her type in this universe.
Next season we do need a what if the other half got snapped, endgame with the other heroes all in a short story would be great
My headcanon is that the missing Gamora and Iron Man episode had them building the infinity stone crusher using the soul stone as a power source, as that was the one stone Gamora knew the location of.
If there are an infinite number of universes then it should be relatively simple to find one where there's a benevolent Ultron who also has all the Infinity stones and have him fight evil Ultron. It's probably just one pane over. :-P
Infinite number of universes and you want the watcher to find one specific ultron. Wouldn't that take like forever finding one?
@@AppropathTo being like The Watcher who exists outside of time and space and pulled 6 specific not-Avengers out of their universes to form his own team? Super easy barely an inconvenience....
@@LizardSpork well he hasn't exactly seen a good ultron, not yet at least. As for the multiverse guardians, well yeah he literally was observing those realities for the past 7 episodes
It'd take too long probably. And even if the Watcher exists outside of time, Ultron was still out there nuking the multiverse. He had to move quick
@@juandirection3751 Exactly! He could've gotten heavier hitters but like he said he was out of options.
For the Watcher's oath, the answer in the comics is in Original Sin. They are an ancient race who provoked a catastrophe for a younger race by trying to help them. So they made that oath to themselves to never intervene again and as a punishment to be the memory of the universe.
Obviously, the Watchers in the comics and this Watcher aren't the same. This Watcher observes the Multiverse while Uatu only observes Earth.
@@GothamClive Yeah. In the comics each universe has their own version of Uatu and his fellow watchers. Here there is only one watcher.
@@scarlox5044 Not if you remember Guardians of The Galaxy 2. We see the Watchers discussing with Stan Lee's character at some point.
@@GothamClive Yes, that's why I said "in the comics" ^^
@@palaniuki Yeah I remember that. I think this watcher is not Uatu as the writers have not confirm that it's him and the character's name is also never mentioned in the series.
Collins, you are a true bro for editing all of these as quickly as you have, you get a fistbump, and a bagel.
Collings that transition at 19:15 was done perfectly.
Not only because of the literal circle, but it also looks as if the characters are jumping into the podcast so the boys can talk about them. *Chef's kiss*
Collings's edits get better and better each video! I love it!
Also: I also missed why they wanted the soul stone in particular, but from Collings's edit here, looks like they needed it (or maybe any one stone) to power the infinity stone crusher
Something that annoys me is that a huge chunk of the mission involves the infinity crusher, a device that thanks to the missing episode we know next to nothing about but it's handwaved because we are already supposed to know this stuff. If it was such an important episode, why completely cut it out instead of just pushing back the schedule one or two weeks if necessary?
Also, not for nothing, but the Lego Sakaar Hulkbuster was one of the bigger What If sets that came out...
It's 8n the name mate. Yes, it would have been cool to see it, but were you really lost?
@@therealeverton no, but I was extremely lost at the significance of stealing only the soul stone, for it to then be placed into the infinity crusher, which grew legs and proceeded to then (in what I can only describe as) mow the lawn on Ultron's chest...
@Latest Obsession then why not use the stone that Strange Supreme already had? They didn't know about the "different reality stones" problem yet. Plus, they were pretty adamant on taking only the soul stone. I'm 95% sure that this was to be explained in the missing episode.
@@insertclevernamehere1186 who’s to say that the stone Strange had would power it? The soul stone brought the machine to life, I doubt the time stone would do that
@@insertclevernamehere1186 The Soul stone turned it on,, s far as I could tell. Souls Stone was the one that was "safe2 to touch. I agree we would "know" more if we had gotten the episode. (not their fault, waiting months to be able to finish it wasn't worth it) but it worked well enough without.
I’m just theorizing for that Gamora episode Tony would arrive on Skcar during the New York fight after he took the missile through the portal he saved everyone but as he fell down the portal closed and another sends him to the planet becoming the champion before Gamora arrives to destroy in thanos’s name possibly as she fights him and frees the planet from the grandmaster becoming the champion to then challenge her father thanos.
You heard another youtuber say that and now you came here to sound like you have this new groundbreaking theory.
Lol
I just realized that whole zombie episode was almost a waste when it comes to the team up aspect. You see zombie wanda for like 5 seconds.
Zombies are just a distraction in cinema now not a real threat everyone knows that
Honestly they should have cut that episode instead of the Gamora one
Strange Supreme holding the infinity snowglobe while smiling was ominous as hell
Weird how the Stone Crusher couldn't destroy the Stones because it wasn't from the same universe but the Soul Stone still powered it? Alright
I guess it's still similar to Gamora's infinity stones that's why it's powered but can't be destroyed.
This video was phenomenal, as always, but I can’t believe that more people haven’t picked up the Maid Marian Easter egg. Truly remarkable stuff
What's that?
@@pepbeats7673 19:47
I picked it up. I didn't comment, though.
That cut at 7:29 was the GOOD STUFF. Collings you’ve done it again.
That transition was so smooth I caught myself wondering why had Steve suddenly got a metal arm.
@@apenasmaisumdiogo.7115 same. Brilliant.
Im honestly confused what was going on in party Thor's world, because we saw stoned up Ultron in his universe at the end of that episode, but the Watcher took him out of that universe so ig that wasn't the same Ultron they ended up fighting? Probably just covid limitations but I wonder if I just missed something.
i think it was like, the initial attack? so hordes of drones before ultron himself rocks up
I don’t wanna be “that guy” but Widow just happening to eat shit near where the arrow was kinda annoyed me
That’s Disney bullshit, I’m used to it tbh.
I think Dr. Strange's protective spell stood up to Ultron's power was largely because he had a time stone.
Every time Chadwick Boseman / black panther was on the screen he completely owned and was the best in all the scenes. His episode was the best one for me. 10/10 and best version of thanos too.
Is it just me or does Ultron with his visor up kind of gives him a bit of Galactus-esque aesthetic? I hope it was deliberate as a reference to the main reason Uatu interfeered in the comics.
I feel like What If is just high budget Fanfiction where the series was written with the philosophy of 'How much different can we make it?' While subsequently sacrificing important bits to flesh out each individual story and make them end in a satisfying manner.
This was a problem especially in the Ultron episode
@@IcyDiamond It quite literally wasn’t
Those bits weren’t sacrificed though
@@RM-cn8pw I feel it was imo
@@IcyDiamond like what bits?
I do wish Strange was able to have a better ending than what he got… he carried the team hard and he deserved one especially when everyone else got one…
IDK he was singularly responsible for the death of everyone in his universe. Seems like an eternal vigil is getting off easy compared to the eternal punishment he probably deserved.
@@rubaiyat300 I mean he still trapped in his dead universe, Watcher didnt give him a get out of jail free card, he is still suffering for his decision.
@@Super_Broly Sure, but I'm talking being sent to Marvel Hel(l) or whatever. just being bored and alone for all time is getting off easy.
@@rubaiyat300 I guess I could see that, but he also went out of his way to save every multiverse as well so I kinda feel like it balances out
Uatu swore not to interfere, so he put everyone back where they were, Nightmare Strange/Strange Supreme is still being punished for what he did to that universe as that doesn't disrupt the plan and also doesn't create another universe
COLLINGS! That transition at 19:13 was **chef's kiss**
In the movie Ultron said the strong would survive his meteor. He wasn't trying to kill everyone.
He also said that’s the only thing living after the meteor will be metal, implying that everyone would be killed or like transferred into robot bodies? idk but it sounded like genocide
A really good send off in the season finale. My main takeaway was two things: Making Ultron relevant again, since AOU wasnt the best Marvel movie out of the whole line-up. Ultron really can be a great villain given time and story. And secondly, a bit of fan service seeing Black Widow live through different means. I think we have to accept that we're not going to see this BW in the MCU again.
I was theorizing that they needed the soul stone to bring the infinity crusher to life, seeing as putting the stone in seemed to awaken it. Maybe it needs a soul to work? I guess we might understand it better if we ever get the Gamora+Tony episode.
I think it might have been simply because it was the only stone t'challa could've phisically hold (the time stone just kind of floated so I dunno)
Lol I completely agree with the oddness of the way that line was delivered “you stole my soul stone” - lol 0 urgency or even anger it felt like
This was my favorite show by far. Seeing where all these stories end up is super fascinating.
Infinity Crusher looks like a robot paper shredder from Space Staples.
🤣
Sort of looked like the Yu-Gi-Oh card Koa'ki Meiru Supplier
8:15 He did absorb the powers of beings that exist outside of the bounds of time and space, and was powerful enough to destroy his own universe, so I can buy that he can make protective spells to fight evenly.
I appreciate you not using pirated or leaked footage. I hate it when channels do this. It degrades their content just to get views.
That moment of recognition from Captain Carter to the Cthulu creature was *chef's kiss*
Very enjoyable series but everything felt rushed and the humor is just oversaturated. It's basically fan fiction but with a big budget. Hopefully it gets better in the next season.
agreed
Exactly my thoughts.
There was some good episodes.
What if the whats were the ifs we made along the way?
awesome episode. although I must say that the literal only three zombies we see come through the portal are the three individual zombies that got mutilated in their episode. they seem to be back to normal.
Collings, incredible work with that "good soup" audio drop
I was pretty mixed on the show as a whole, but I just got a venom trailer before this video and I realized, it is in fact comparatively pretty great
Outside of the universe, we have to figure that the “protection spell” is simply so it doesn’t get so graphic for the kids watching. More possible streams
19:48 - FOX MAID MARION ENDED MY CHILDHOOD!!!
Collings is the real MVP. These video edits are amazing.
The only let-down to this otherwise great series, was being left without a conclusion to marvel zombies
Probably will have a follow up in season 2
I don't think you or alot of people seem to grasp what What If? was....Its not meant to be a continuing series, its not meant to really have conclusions, its literally just meant to be a one off story that is contained to one issue. I have no doubt that is exactly what the show was meant to be. None of it ties into anything, none of it ties into the MCU, your not going to see anything from a What If? pop up in the MCU.
“Everyone died, the end.” - Patrick Star
@@lutherheggs451 I could see a What If? character appearing in Multiverse Of Madness
They all die. The End.
I hope they change the animation to something actually bold in the next season. I hate how it looks like a Telltale game.
Same
I wish the animation was like adventures of tintin.
@@ARBLACKx at that point, why not make it live action?
Mason's "I messed up man" impression was spot on! 😆
Fun fact, I'm a Librarian and they do still release these on DVD oddly enough. We get a lot of patrons who come in specifically to check out the latest streaming shows but they can't afford the subscription.
Ultron quoting Vader was amusing!
And I'm curious how long it's going to take Zola and Killmonger to realize they're in a pocket dimension :P
I can't tell what fight I loved more
Thanos or The Actual Age of Ultron
RAW Collings is literally the third Beatle of the Weekly Planet. I hope James N. Mason invite that mad lad onto the show someday.
I like to think that Strang Supreme and Uatu are best buds and sit down for tea while Uatu recounts tales of the multiverse to his new buddy.
They've never missed a thing, and they always get 100% on 100% of the 100% quizzes
I thought it was pretty disappointing to be perfectly honest, a lot of my complaints boil down to the episode being rushed and Ultron being incredibly underpowered compared to Ep 8.
To address complaint one, while I appreciate catching up with characters during the recruitment montage, what we saw during the episode didn't really justify why any of the Guardians besides Strange and Widow needed to be there. Thor was only around for comic relief (which I personally found cringey), and Gamora was from a cut episode and was only there to introduce a literal Deus Ex Machina as a red herring. Most disappointingly Killmonger never had any meaningful dialogue with the alternate version of his cousin, and was there just to betray everyone. This leads me to complaint number 2.
While I appreciate the solution being something other than overpowering Infinity Ultron, a lot of what we saw relied entirely on Ultron being neutered and just forgetting to use his powers. I understand the challenges of writing a character that OP, but the solution isn't to suddenly make him an idiot. The power to annihilate entire universes with a single thought and Ultron just shoots lasers instead. No real uses of any of the stones powers, the Time Stone gets a brief moment to... just freeze people midair. Just a profound lack of creativity all around. Alternate versions of heroes and villains assembled to fight a multi-universal threat... and really only Strange does anything.
has the power to crush multiple universes in one single thought and some random enchanced invidual like starlord blackwidow managed to steal his stone and insert zola virus, absolute dumb shit writing, has the power to stop time and easily win and only use them to shoot some shitty laser smh
@@fuokir2305 This version of T'Challa Starlord isn't even enhanced. He was abducted before he got the Black Panther powers so he's literally just a regular guy with some tech and jetboots.
Quill at least had the benefit of being partially Celestial.
@@phantomninja01 The members are being enhanced by Strange though with his runes, both defense and offense. That explains why T’Challa can survive being thrown around by Ultron and also why the team can sort of go toe to toe against Ultron.
But yeah when I saw how powerful Ultron is in eps 8, I know he’s going to be reduced to a jobber on eps 9 lol. Feels pretty iffy he got damaged by that arrow and destroyed by Zola. Would’ve prefer he simply got separated by the stones and trapped in that dimension bubble by Strange. But then again I’m biased for Ultron and want to see him again in the live action.
When they pulled out the USB arrow I thought, you're eliminating one problem but then you have Zola with the infinity stones and that doesn't sound safe
Zola being a robot stomach in concept art for antman also looked fantastic
The Infinity Stones are only supposed to work in their universe, when they travel into another one they lose all power. They acknowledge this, yet Ultron is still able to use his stones, yet they can't destroy them because it's a different Universe. *I'm a bit confused gif*
Also Dark Strange was able to use his stone, too even though the comics and Loki show established that they are paperweights outside of their universe.
Nobody said it can't work in any other universe only tat it won't func in TVA whoch everyone misunderstood.
@@davidm4566 donno abt the comics but loki was in TVA which is outside the timestream bro
I think the important thing to note about Ultron taking his time is that he's still half tony stark so it makes sense that he's a raging narcissist who would pull shit like that. Also, maybe they should've done Sakaar Tony instead of the zombies
True, but you can't do What if and NOT do zombies. It'd be like doing an Avengers movie without Cap, you just have to.
Why would they take out zombies. They very clearly could cut the Yellowjacket episode
Um na he's not tony hes the mind stone also he's supposed a robot so really should be more cold and calculated
@@dannycudzik852 but...Tony programmed him. Tony puts himself in all of his AI. Even Jarvis. He was a raging narcissist (with good intentions) but still a narcissist with a huge ego. Stands to reason that ultron would adopt that and merge it with his objective
fellas. thank you so much for these. for all the content. been binging the back catalog since I'm all up to date and stuck in a shoe box of a room that hopefully by the time I've finished all your episodes, it'll be a music studio. have a wonderful day!
oh my gosh, the way this is edited and yall's commentary!!! is truly brilliant
It looked like the soul stone powered the stone crusher. Not sure why that one instead of the power stone, but being able to hold it makes sense.
Gave the robot a soul maybe, kinda cooked writing tbh
it sucks we didn't get Corn of Coblin or John Krasinski
Maybe the real corn of coblin were the friends we made along the way.
Strange gets so screwed. Nat gets to hang out in a better universe, and strange gets a crystal sphere inside a bigger crystal sphere.
Strange also murdered his entire universe out of arrogance while BW fought tooth and nail to keep hers alive. And even kept fighting after her universe was dead.
They deserve their respective endings, and Strange Supreme even agrees.
@@Hunterfalke Strange Supreme didn't know there was another option. I imagine someone so powerful can eventually find a way into another reality and that might be his plan, but Widow got sent last.
Always good to see corn of coblin make an appearance
Ultron wielding 5 out of 6 infinity stones (including space, time, and reality) and still getting up and physically running to grab the soul stone was one of the dumbest things I've seen happen in the MCU. I have a lot of issues with the writing of the series and the writers not seeming to either understand, know, or care about so many aspects, and that single shot of Ultron running like any other shmuck really summed up a lot of what I think.
Also I guess Vision's eyes are just some glass over two USB ports.
Agreed with your general sentiment. Also, he has the complete set of stones and he can't defend himself from an arrow?
The show runs too free and loose with a lot of details. It makes aspects of the show a little difficult to sit through.
They should have gotten James Spader or have Ultron have one voice BUT when fully upgraded he gets Spaders voice
He was busy he was filming for another movie at the time
19:20 Sad to hear that James and Mason haven’t been able to see Venom 2 and Shang-Chi because of being in a COVID lockdown, but it does make me happy to hear that I’M NOT the only one who’s in that boat. I haven’t gone to theaters in over a year
Living Tribunal was first hinted at in Doctor Strange when they name dropped the Staff of the Living Tribunal