It will be revealed that Ms Minutes is behind it all, then in that scene Ms Minutes will morph into Mobius revealing that Mobius was really behind it all. Then Mobius will morph into Kang The Conquer revealing Kang is the true Villian. Then when you think it's over Kang will slowly shrink and then transform into Alligator Loki. The true villain of the MCU going forward.
I think he was just embarrassed that none of his counterparts seemed to realise that if they were planning on betraying a supposed ally, another Loki would be planning on doing exactly the same thing to them, and so on and so on
Think about what all of those Lokis were fighting for... To be king of a trash pile at the end of time. Lokis are conditioned to be narcissistic and backstabbing to the point of demanding rulership of practically nothing. Very embarrassing. Even Lokigator wanted out of there...
Just wanna continue my weekly shoutout of Collings' amazing editing. Not only does he turn this around in like one day, he's throwing in all kinds of little inserts and running gags. My goodness man I am in awe.
I'll never stop appreciating this. It's just so damn kind. And also probably too generous but it gets me through so thanks mate. Wishing you a top weekend ahead over there.
@@rawcollings hey Collings - in the off chance you see this before you publish the finale video, just wanted to point out that the Sphinx’s nose in particular at 13:22 looks like Jonathan Majors (the actor playing Kang in Quantumania). He even draws attention to his nose in the finale when talking about the compliments alt-versions say to each other. Wonder if this was a tribute built to a Kang in an alternate timeline and the primitive Egyptians built it thinking he was their God. Great job with these videos man, been loving them!!
The most unbelievable thing about this video is the fact that we have not 1, but 2 Australians who can neither confirm nor deny if that version of Loki is a crocodile or alligator.
If it is Kang, seems like a version that has been pruning other versions of himself (with the sphinx and the building). Someone else mentioned awhile back it could be Immortus trying to keep the other Kangs in line or non-existent. Could be the reason we haven't seen mutants or the Fantastic Four before now. Seems like the show would go with a Loki, though. God King Loki, as he mentioned in episode 1. It would also fit that he would prune Kangs since Kang would be a threat to his time manipulations. It would also fit with the Lokis mostly not knowing how strong they were. Honestly, would be pretty cool to see Richard E Grant showing up as an evil Loki, since we have just seen him being the best Loki.
honestly, i think it is just gonna be some variant of Loki too. It's a safe choice for the writers, and it's in line with the theme of the show. Loki/Sylvie confront Evil King Loki or whoever, discover the extent of their powers(ala Thor Ragnarok), take down said villain, end of story. But what i'd really like to see is the introduction of Kang. Not as in - some variant of Kang, but THE Kang which we'll see in the next Ant-Man/Wasp movie. The only issue with this is - it's NOT a safe choice for the show. If they go with Kang, then he can't just be some throw away baddy of the week/variant. It has to be a strong portrayal of the character(who of course must survive the Loki series) that will leave the audience wanting more, thus building up hype for Quantumania. So my vote would be - do Kang... but with charisma & depth, which audiences will be waiting with anticipation to see again.
I’m here after the finale (didn’t wanna watch any of these during the show’s air because people always guess something that I end up wishing I didn’t know). At any rate, I wanna point out that it’s interesting how the Sphinx with an unbroken nose bears resemblance to Jonathan Majors (Lovecraft Country) who will be playing Kang in Quantumania. Could be from a timeline where primitive people built the Sphinx in honor of him. Really loved how that part was handled and for someone that doesn’t read the comics and has no knowledge of Marvel outside of the films MCU and now the Disney trio of shows, I thought they did an interesting enough job with the part that they have me curious to know more and what’s going to happen next. I’m super excited there will be a S2 of the show as well. Is there a possibility of the other two shows getting a second season or were they definite one-offs?
@@MrJagermeister i hadn't heard Jonathan Majors was playing Kang in Quantamania til u mentioned it & although he wasn't how i expected Kang to be portrayed, he was just what i wanted: a character i can't wait to see more of. He was entertaining, unpredictable, quirky, & just a little bit nuts. I'm glad to hear that they'll be sticking with Majors in the future. And a 2nd season of Loki is a bonus. Overall - i wouldn't say the first season was great, but it was pretty good. Loki is my favorite character in the MCU so i'm biased. Some of the highlights for me were: Hiddleston & Wilson's chemistry(they're great together), Richard Grant & alligator Loki, & the reveal of Kang.
They should of made the car the same model or close to lighting McQueen but keep it rusty looking and I liked allgator Thor but I would rather of seen frog Thor go with them lol
Long shot theory but one I came up with: The "big bad" is a Loki variant who's specifically tailoring the timeline to give Thor the best life he can. Loki's realised that there will never be a happy ending for Lokis so gives it to the next best thing, his brother. Think about all the pruned timelines we've seen. - Sylvie. She was playing the hero with her toys. She could've ended up a good person and been given the throne of Asgard instead of Thor. - Kid Loki. Pretty obvious one here. Killed Thor. - Classic Loki. After 100's or 1000's of years he wanted to reconnect with Thor who assumed him dead. Could've caused a lot of chaos in old man Thor's peaceful life. - Boastful Loki. Possibly kills Thor's friends in New York, possibly kills Jane as well. - Our Loki. Escapes in 2012, Either isn't around to sacrifice himself to Thanos so Thor is killed instead or isn't present for Ragnarok so Thor is killed by Hela. So perhaps the Sacred Timeline is the one where Thor lives a long happy life with friends and a family.
@@cctakethelgaminghdclipsnmo257 He might have the worst life in the whole MCU. His dad, mom, brother, sister, his best friend, half his people, his planet, his hammer all gone. Though break up with Jane. Unable to stop Thanos, which caused trillions to die. He's had a hard life
@@cctakethelgaminghdclipsnmo257He’s still only young, he could live for thousands more years and grow old with a family still. And whilst not a “good life” it could just be the best life available to Thor where the other timelines have him die earlier or have no family. The current Thor has a better life than he would’ve had in the pruned Loki timelines.
My favourite part of the episode was the sacrifice of Classic Loki, building up the Asgard that he misses in it's full glory through illusions. That combined with the fantastic score gave me a tear in my eye, while also showing the potential power of Loki. Best episode so far!
I saw a really cool theory where the Kang they find in the next epiosode is the "good" Kang; the one Kang who is a good guy. He set up the TVA to prune every time line except the one where he's good for the betterment of the universe. Loki and Sylvie take him down giving rise to the true, evil, Kang and setting off the next big bad of the MCU.
Hot damn. Spot on, context is a little different and the characterization (still fantastically unnerving from Major) as it is evident that he has grown tired yet excited to pass on the responsibility to someone else. This is a villain who has clearly won and has lived for so long, that he was looking for a new way out.
This channel is the only pop culture media review I can listen to. You KNOW all the prevalent theories are silly and stupid, you always have fun and don't take any of it too seriously, and you still provide a lotta great backstory and info on stuff I would otherwise miss. Great show!
My friend and I came up with an origin for "Loki-dile" he was tricked into transforming into a crocodile and is trapped in that form and was taken by the TVA as the only Loki to get "tricked"
I love how all other RUclipsrs headlines are "Loki breakdown", "Loki Easter Eggs", "Loki SPOILERS!!!" James and Mason on the other hand... "We figured it all out!!!! We did!!!!! Were the best and smartest!!!" So incredibly humble...
"We figured it out! It's one of these ten versions of Kang. Or it's one of several versions of Loki. Or it's Miss Minutes (or maybe Barry minutes). Or Mobius. And maybe Renslayer is in on it but maybe she's not. SOLVED, stick a red circle on it, this video is done."
The editing when you're talking about the USS Eldridge was beyond next level. How the fuck did he think to put that clip of Bucky in there? Perfection. I'd watch a video on Collings' process. Does he have a hard drive with the entire MCU cut into meme-able chunks?
That little Ben Grimm running across the bottom of the video when they say "here's the thing though".... That got me, fucking love your videos, informative and fun, keep it up mates!
I tried to get my wife to listen to The Weekly Planet with me. She got as far as “shooting up your butthole” and then she got mad at me and walked away. But anyway, keep it up boys!
It's gotta be Classic Loki! 1) It has to be someone we know, otherwise who cares? 2) Why cast Richard E. Grant for such a short role? 3) What do we know about classic Loki? He fakes his death. That's the story he tells of escaping Thanos, he does it when escaping the base with the other Lokis, and so I think we can assume his self-sacrifice bit at the end was a trick as well. 4) If it were Kang, I don't think most viewers would get that at all. "Who's this guy? Why does he matte? I guess they'll explain this in 'Quantumania'?" 5) Assuming Classic Loki is telling the truth about his escape from Thanos, he may also be the Loki from the movies. What made him a variant was that he decided he missed people, not that he wasn't killed by Thanos.
I think the self-cest angle is really just more of a metaphor than Loki wanting to "romance himself." Loki is taking a long, hard look at himself, thus realizing he is pretty much an ineffectual shit, and in this new awareness is deciding to do something about it and be a better man. He's on a fast-track to where he was before he "died" without all the months of therapy and self-help exercises.
I really want to get excited to see Kang show up at the end as the villain but I’m mostly expecting Jonathan majors to show up as the character Hugh Janus and get killed by Loki
@@RED01SEA what I understood is that she knew what being "adopted" implied. But it's still possible I suppose given all the variations that could lead to a Loki
14:08 The timing of Bucky’s nod and transition to smh, all set to James’ utterance of “nod” and Maso’s “decloaked behind you” gag. I don’t know how you do it, Rob. Like, how quickly did you gravitate to using this shot of Bucky? It’s insane how subtly perfect it is.
One theory I’ve started to like is that King Loki is behind the TVA. I’m the comics, King Loki was a future version of Loki who became King of Asgard and became insane. He then went back in time to try and ensure his existence in the future. Seeing as how we’ve had various variants of Loki, I think it would be interesting if he was the protagonists and antagonist in this too. It’s basically one Loki who succeeded in his ultimate goals and tries to ensure that no other Lokis will pose a threat to his existence. In some screenshots from the trailers, that haven’t been in episodes yet, one is of a Loki in the Asgard throne room standing with his arms out wide, while Asgardians applause him. So maybe that’s the King Loki when he first took power?
Hmm, true, we haven't seen that throne room scene yet. King Loki doesn't sound all that interesting, though. But I can totally belive that Marvel would throw in a billion Kang references to get people excited and then reveal it was King Loki. That's right up their ally.
@@emilianoortiz8795 In the context of the show I think it could be pulled off, after coming to terms with being told their only purpose is to fail, and help others better themselves, it could be quite the contrast in having a Loki that ultimately succeeded where others didn’t and is in fact trying to keep all other Lokis from succeeding and improving themselves.
It’s probably another Loki, there was a scene of Loki in his outfit in a dark room much like the castle, our Loki doesn’t seem to want to change his dress shirt and tie, there’s also him in Asgard’s throne room which is yet to be seen. Also Mobius’s comment that they prune more Loki’s than any other variant hints towards it as well. I would say the time keepers laughing isn’t something Kang would do, Loki would be the one to enjoy the looks on their faces when they realize the Time Keepers were fake.
I predict that it’s gonna be like the first Avengers where Loki is the bad but he works for an ever bigger bad (Thanos). And in the show it’s gonna be a bad King Loki working for Kang
I'm convinced it will be a Loki too. Not just any Loki, I think it might be "our" Loki far in the future. Remember Sylvie asking Loki if she could trust him not to betray her at the very end? It made me think - if the big bad is Kang or someone similar, there's not a chance in hell that Loki would betray Sylvie for them at this point, so it's a weird question. The only person I can think of which might make Loki think twice about betraying Sylvie right now is himself. If he sees himself at the fruition of his glorious purpose, effective ruler of all of the timelines, and that version of him tries to convince him to take over the TVA in the past, to eventually become the Loki in the future - *that* might give him a moment of doubt. In my mind this scenario perfectly embodies all of the themes of the series. Destiny/duty/glorious purpose, self doubt/self loathing/seeing the best in oneself/learning to love oneself, trust and betrayal. All condensed down to a single choice: does Loki choose Sylvie, who shows him what a Loki is capable of, or does he choose his long desired crown and power. Of course I fully expect that Loki will stick with Sylvie (probably after a fake-out where he pretends to betray her to get closer to king Loki) and they'll end up taking down king Loki,. And then (possibly in a post-credits) we'll find out he wasn't ruling over the timeline just because he enjoyed ruling, but that he was deliberately trying to stop Kang by pruning the multiverse, and that will lead into Kang in the movies. And then we'll see Mobius on a jet ski, because Chekov's jet ski.
Richard E Grant put in one of the best and most memorable performances in the history of Comic Book Media. Easily my favourite episode from any of these series and one of my favourite episodes of TV ever
this is when the show reveals that everything is just an endless cycle of Loki variants usurping a throne at the end of time, his true ultimate purpose is to overthrow a version of himself over and over again.
I think the big bad is king loki, makes sense that a show about a self center person would be his own villain, also it makes sense that hes killing past versions/timelines in order to prevent them from changing the timeline that leads to him
@@FerociousPaul the ONLY clue is the Queng on avengers tower. May be a red herring but yeah i.m.o. a loki created the TVA maybe even our "killed" by thanos loki
That would make more sense thematically but it wouldn’t be the most exciting twist. So i’m not sure how ppl would react knowing that a lot of them are hoping for Kang
The Master did have a brief relationship with himself, John Simm's Master came back and interacted with Michelle Gomez's female version and turned her against the Doctor after he'd spent a few centuries trying to reform her & they were very much handsy and all over each other
I think that was different tho because that was literally the same person a few years apart, whereas Sylvie and Loki are different people with different parents and all. Both are weird IMO.
@@dyiawblou1671 yeah so in the episode with the two of them, if I recall correctly, it ends with John Simn master being killed and going lower in the ship, to regenerate into Missy, hence why Missy teamed up with the cybermen the first time we see her. Missy then dies but Moffat literally said at the time that the Master would return *somehow*. So yeah I think we’re just supposed to believe that she lived somehow, or time got rewritten, doesn’t really matter at the end of the day.
There were also at one point two Amy Ponds in the TARDIS flirting with each other in a minisode. And Jack Harkness fantasized about 10th Doctor X Metacrisis Doctor
I would like for the big bad guy to be Kang, I don’t think it’s impossible, but I feel like we still haven’t learned our lesson from Mephisto. I think it’s almost certainly another Loki.
You know the living tribunal head was totally just an asset from endgame they wanted to get their money’s worth out of (hence Asgard showing up so often)
Cheers so much mate! Was looking for an excuse since that ep. It only kinda fits in the topic but anyway this is probably too much information and thank you!!!
The middle of the episode felt like a game of D&D. DM: “You see a gargantuan eternal guardian of this realm. What do you do?” Rouge: “I ENCHANT IT!” DM: “Sorry what now...you *enchant* the eternal realm guardian?? You’ll need a nat 20.” Rouge: NAT20 DM “goddamnit”
The text on top of the bunker entrance is in Hindi. Top text is just an "Aa" sound but bottom texts say: Saavdhaan meaning caution and Barfeela meaning snowy.
@@Salty010 Well so far everyone has basically expected just that to happen in every series, and so far CRAZY UNEXPECTED CAMEO/TWIST is 0/2. I assume it'll be 0/3.
The Thing sliding across the screen at 9:19 when mason says ‘well I dunno here’s the thing though’ is absolute *John Favreau Kiss* (like chefs kiss cos he was in the film chef). The quality of these is always so good. Collins and the wickadee wackadee boys at it again!
8:02 They are both Frost Giants. Loki Laufeyson and Sylvie Laufeydottir both have Laufey the Frost Giant as their father. It's literally in their names.
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But then after that, when Renslayer was asking for the files on the creation of the TVA, it also felt like she was perhaps stalling or trying to divert.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Mobius was a Loki of some kind. He is able to catch their lies and manipulate them showing that he is on the same level as a Loki in the trickery department. Mobius also said he was a fan of Loki and definitely is continued to be shown to have a soft spot for the Loki’s. Him liking the Loki’s could go into the whole narcissistic situation of Loki’s only being able to like themselves
The scene where Mobius drives a pizza truck is a double Pixar easter egg. It references Owen Wilson’s role as Lightning McQueen, as well as the Pizza Planet truck.
I really think Miss Minutes acting “suspicious” was just her complying with a kidnapper and surreptitiously calling security. Idt she’s at the center of all this
. I was wondering the same thing. She does hold all the info related to how the TVA started, maybe she's not suppose to reveal that type of info to anyone, including Judge Renslayer. Maybe there's info in there on her, that she's not suppose to know. I'm assuming Renslayer was mind wiped how everyone else was in the TVA, so she could wanna know who she really was before the TVA. Just my guess/opinion
@@eastvandb i believe that Miss Minutes is in charge of certain information that is outside of Renslayer’s level of clearance but i dont think she’s behind the scenes operating any of the TVA shenanigans. I think she’s quite literally just a computer system for the TVA and thats that
Given that they made Enchantress a Loki variant, I see no reason they couldn't make Kang a Loki variant, too. PS: This move also has the benefit of both rewarding comic book fans (for noticing the Kang references) and *still* being a twist that we wouldn't see coming. Also, I'm still holding out for the theory that EVERYONE IN THE SHOW IS JUST A LOKI VARIANT.
I only knew of the existence of the Thanos Copter thanks to my favorite CoG episode, which also discusses the nuances of slippery cubes and cross-eyed dogs. So when I spotted it in the show, I was well-prepared. In addition to being riotously funny, you guys are a masters-level educational resource! 😂
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It will be revealed that Ms Minutes is behind it all, then in that scene Ms Minutes will morph into Mobius revealing that Mobius was really behind it all. Then Mobius will morph into Kang The Conquer revealing Kang is the true Villian. Then when you think it's over Kang will slowly shrink and then transform into Alligator Loki. The true villain of the MCU going forward.
Villainception? 🤔
The move you'd expect from mephisto played by John krasinski
This made my life complete
Damn! How did you get the leaked script for Episode 6?! D8
That was a rollercoaster of emotions
9:18 “here’s the Thing though”
God damn Collings you mad editing genius
Aha very generous on the genius but appreciate it double D!
I love when all the double crosses were going down in the hideout that Loki didn’t seem very scared, just annoyed
Yeah that exasperated look on his face was gold.
“What did you expect?”
*doublecross*
Loki: oh for fucks sake
It's like that dry Blackadder persona; Ben Elton style.
He had such huge "oh, so *this* is what it feels like" energy.
I think he was just embarrassed that none of his counterparts seemed to realise that if they were planning on betraying a supposed ally, another Loki would be planning on doing exactly the same thing to them, and so on and so on
Think about what all of those Lokis were fighting for... To be king of a trash pile at the end of time. Lokis are conditioned to be narcissistic and backstabbing to the point of demanding rulership of practically nothing. Very embarrassing. Even Lokigator wanted out of there...
Just wanna continue my weekly shoutout of Collings' amazing editing. Not only does he turn this around in like one day, he's throwing in all kinds of little inserts and running gags. My goodness man I am in awe.
I'll never stop appreciating this. It's just so damn kind. And also probably too generous but it gets me through so thanks mate. Wishing you a top weekend ahead over there.
@@rawcollings hey Collings - in the off chance you see this before you publish the finale video, just wanted to point out that the Sphinx’s nose in particular at 13:22 looks like Jonathan Majors (the actor playing Kang in Quantumania). He even draws attention to his nose in the finale when talking about the compliments alt-versions say to each other. Wonder if this was a tribute built to a Kang in an alternate timeline and the primitive Egyptians built it thinking he was their God. Great job with these videos man, been loving them!!
Given how many Loki's there are and how Loki's are, I'd like to think that the scene with the multiple betrayals happens like every couple of weeks.
I'd watch an entire season in the Void of Loki backstabbing Loki like Survivor to see who Alilith doesn't eat.
Yes
The Treasure of Sierra Madre but all 3 lead characters are Loki.
*hours
They punch for a bit then they're mates?
I’d laugh my ass off if they took a hard left turn at the end and it’s Mephisto.
You'd lmao
@@amritaddanki5627 thank you. Yes, I’d lmao
@@amritaddanki5627 that's funny lol
It is.
Watch it really be though
The most unbelievable thing about this video is the fact that we have not 1, but 2 Australians who can neither confirm nor deny if that version of Loki is a crocodile or alligator.
Well there aren't alligators in Australia so how would they know the difference?
Webbed feet, interlocking teeth, darker hide, u shaped snout instead of a v shaped snout, it’s a alligator.
@@Theendman42 but the headgear? Crocodile.
Somewhere Steve Irwin is weeping.
Erik Voss explained it in detail in his New Rockstars video. To be clear, it's an alligator
If it is Kang, seems like a version that has been pruning other versions of himself (with the sphinx and the building). Someone else mentioned awhile back it could be Immortus trying to keep the other Kangs in line or non-existent. Could be the reason we haven't seen mutants or the Fantastic Four before now.
Seems like the show would go with a Loki, though. God King Loki, as he mentioned in episode 1. It would also fit that he would prune Kangs since Kang would be a threat to his time manipulations. It would also fit with the Lokis mostly not knowing how strong they were. Honestly, would be pretty cool to see Richard E Grant showing up as an evil Loki, since we have just seen him being the best Loki.
honestly, i think it is just gonna be some variant of Loki too. It's a safe choice for the writers, and it's in line with the theme of the show. Loki/Sylvie confront Evil King Loki or whoever, discover the extent of their powers(ala Thor Ragnarok), take down said villain, end of story. But what i'd really like to see is the introduction of Kang. Not as in - some variant of Kang, but THE Kang which we'll see in the next Ant-Man/Wasp movie. The only issue with this is - it's NOT a safe choice for the show. If they go with Kang, then he can't just be some throw away baddy of the week/variant. It has to be a strong portrayal of the character(who of course must survive the Loki series) that will leave the audience wanting more, thus building up hype for Quantumania. So my vote would be - do Kang... but with charisma & depth, which audiences will be waiting with anticipation to see again.
Oh man honestly I didn’t even think of that. Now that you bring that version of him up it seems fairly reasonable it could be him.
I’m here after the finale (didn’t wanna watch any of these during the show’s air because people always guess something that I end up wishing I didn’t know). At any rate, I wanna point out that it’s interesting how the Sphinx with an unbroken nose bears resemblance to Jonathan Majors (Lovecraft Country) who will be playing Kang in Quantumania. Could be from a timeline where primitive people built the Sphinx in honor of him.
Really loved how that part was handled and for someone that doesn’t read the comics and has no knowledge of Marvel outside of the films MCU and now the Disney trio of shows, I thought they did an interesting enough job with the part that they have me curious to know more and what’s going to happen next. I’m super excited there will be a S2 of the show as well. Is there a possibility of the other two shows getting a second season or were they definite one-offs?
@@MrJagermeister i hadn't heard Jonathan Majors was playing Kang in Quantamania til u mentioned it & although he wasn't how i expected Kang to be portrayed, he was just what i wanted: a character i can't wait to see more of. He was entertaining, unpredictable, quirky, & just a little bit nuts. I'm glad to hear that they'll be sticking with Majors in the future. And a 2nd season of Loki is a bonus.
Overall - i wouldn't say the first season was great, but it was pretty good. Loki is my favorite character in the MCU so i'm biased. Some of the highlights for me were: Hiddleston & Wilson's chemistry(they're great together), Richard Grant & alligator Loki, & the reveal of Kang.
I was very disapointed when Mobius showed up in a car and not a jet ski.
I assume they’re saving it for the end, but agreed.
There'd better be a jet ski in the season finale!!!
They should of made the car the same model or close to lighting McQueen but keep it rusty looking and I liked allgator Thor but I would rather of seen frog Thor go with them lol
But it was the pizza delivery car from Toy Story. So that's okay. I guess.
@@EatinPaste I mean it looked kind of like it could be an Easter egg if so that is cool
Long shot theory but one I came up with:
The "big bad" is a Loki variant who's specifically tailoring the timeline to give Thor the best life he can. Loki's realised that there will never be a happy ending for Lokis so gives it to the next best thing, his brother. Think about all the pruned timelines we've seen.
- Sylvie. She was playing the hero with her toys. She could've ended up a good person and been given the throne of Asgard instead of Thor.
- Kid Loki. Pretty obvious one here. Killed Thor.
- Classic Loki. After 100's or 1000's of years he wanted to reconnect with Thor who assumed him dead. Could've caused a lot of chaos in old man Thor's peaceful life.
- Boastful Loki. Possibly kills Thor's friends in New York, possibly kills Jane as well.
- Our Loki. Escapes in 2012, Either isn't around to sacrifice himself to Thanos so Thor is killed instead or isn't present for Ragnarok so Thor is killed by Hela.
So perhaps the Sacred Timeline is the one where Thor lives a long happy life with friends and a family.
you think thor has had a good life
@@cctakethelgaminghdclipsnmo257 He might have the worst life in the whole MCU. His dad, mom, brother, sister, his best friend, half his people, his planet, his hammer all gone. Though break up with Jane. Unable to stop Thanos, which caused trillions to die. He's had a hard life
@@cctakethelgaminghdclipsnmo257He’s still only young, he could live for thousands more years and grow old with a family still. And whilst not a “good life” it could just be the best life available to Thor where the other timelines have him die earlier or have no family.
The current Thor has a better life than he would’ve had in the pruned Loki timelines.
This is a surprisingly wholesome theory
Boastful Loki has done none of those things.
My favourite part of the episode was the sacrifice of Classic Loki, building up the Asgard that he misses in it's full glory through illusions. That combined with the fantastic score gave me a tear in my eye, while also showing the potential power of Loki. Best episode so far!
He sounded so much like tom hiddleston as he laughed his way to death like fucking Joker. What a scene.
The music there sounded like it was definitely drawing upon Wagner's _Ride of the Valkyries_
The classic helmet hitting the ground after was glorious.
@@jeynarl oh definitely, bordered on plagiaristic
He found his glorious purpose.
I saw a really cool theory where the Kang they find in the next epiosode is the "good" Kang; the one Kang who is a good guy. He set up the TVA to prune every time line except the one where he's good for the betterment of the universe. Loki and Sylvie take him down giving rise to the true, evil, Kang and setting off the next big bad of the MCU.
Damn spot on
Have you seen the episode 5 days ago? LOL
Hot damn. Spot on, context is a little different and the characterization (still fantastically unnerving from Major) as it is evident that he has grown tired yet excited to pass on the responsibility to someone else. This is a villain who has clearly won and has lived for so long, that he was looking for a new way out.
9:18 "Here's the Thing though." That almost killed me lol.
I missed it the first time. Thanks for pointing that out!
Alternative title: James knows way more about Doctor Who that he would like to admit.
Ryuko
Noone who knows anything about doctor who wants to admit it.
@@massivecockhaver4689 That’s not true. I’ll freely admit I know plenty about Doctor Who. In particular Classic Doctor Who.
Couldn’t believe Corn of Coblin was a Loki variant all along
Corn of Coblin kills Kang and takes his place to become the new big bad guy!
In the comics corn of coblin once briefly mentioned mephisto in a now retconed timeline
Therefore this coblin is working for mephisto now
@@thenetherone1597 My theory is that he IS Mephisto
Corn of Coblin CONFIRMED. New MCU Big Bad. Corn of Coblin will make Thanos look like the bunny variant of Whiplash.
@@mrmeowsermoney probably just a variant
13:55 the easter eggs at this point feels more like 3D models from the Marvel movies that they got ready to go than something relevant to anything.
Like a game right? When they have 3D models of a cancelled game and they re purpose it for another one as maybe an easter egg or something else
Why would they have a frog Thor or Thanos copter for?
@@craighicksartwork not all of course
This channel is the only pop culture media review I can listen to. You KNOW all the prevalent theories are silly and stupid, you always have fun and don't take any of it too seriously, and you still provide a lotta great backstory and info on stuff I would otherwise miss. Great show!
They don't take it seriously is the reason why i enjoy them so much, especially maeso who just doesn't gives a shit about any franchise
agree man~ since the day the first vid i watch James tell info about dr strange lore, before movie out give it a try.... its damn funny
They are Australian, after all 🤣
WandaVision led to me unfollowing A LOT of channels. They're just so annoying. These fellas though, they have fun.
My friend and I came up with an origin for "Loki-dile" he was tricked into transforming into a crocodile and is trapped in that form and was taken by the TVA as the only Loki to get "tricked"
I love how all other RUclipsrs headlines are "Loki breakdown", "Loki Easter Eggs", "Loki SPOILERS!!!" James and Mason on the other hand...
"We figured it all out!!!! We did!!!!! Were the best and smartest!!!"
So incredibly humble...
"We figured it out! It's one of these ten versions of Kang. Or it's one of several versions of Loki. Or it's Miss Minutes (or maybe Barry minutes). Or Mobius. And maybe Renslayer is in on it but maybe she's not. SOLVED, stick a red circle on it, this video is done."
@@TheDelinear You're not fooling anyone, James.
Probably because they know how fucking dumb other channels are.
The editing when you're talking about the USS Eldridge was beyond next level. How the fuck did he think to put that clip of Bucky in there? Perfection.
I'd watch a video on Collings' process. Does he have a hard drive with the entire MCU cut into meme-able chunks?
Shoutout to the Thanos Copter and Throg easter eggs
And Ecto Cooler!
That little Ben Grimm running across the bottom of the video when they say "here's the thing though"....
That got me, fucking love your videos, informative and fun, keep it up mates!
I tried to get my wife to listen to The Weekly Planet with me. She got as far as “shooting up your butthole” and then she got mad at me and walked away. But anyway, keep it up boys!
She got further than mine mate 😂
Ask her to return when they change the intro
So shes your ex now right?
My lady laughed at that!
@@zabeerfarid7687 wait! They aren't changing it are they?! My Son and I sing along every time!
Iron Monger in a wig. Just yelling “To-ny!” that’s what’s in the castle.
Or it's s a variant of the box of scraps dude
Doctor Who has had ‘selfcest’ with Michelle Gomez’s Missy and John Simm’s Master in Season 10. Same person but during different regenerations.
that scene made me chuckle
Yeah, when I thought Loki was going in that direction my mind immediately went to that episode.
"By the way, is it wrong that I..."
"Yes, very."
ruclips.net/video/LyIHvwFG9zs/видео.html This relationship didn't end well for them though.
It's referred to as, Master-bation.
@@ccayco ha! nice...
It's gotta be Classic Loki!
1) It has to be someone we know, otherwise who cares?
2) Why cast Richard E. Grant for such a short role?
3) What do we know about classic Loki? He fakes his death. That's the story he tells of escaping Thanos, he does it when escaping the base with the other Lokis, and so I think we can assume his self-sacrifice bit at the end was a trick as well.
4) If it were Kang, I don't think most viewers would get that at all. "Who's this guy? Why does he matte? I guess they'll explain this in 'Quantumania'?"
5) Assuming Classic Loki is telling the truth about his escape from Thanos, he may also be the Loki from the movies. What made him a variant was that he decided he missed people, not that he wasn't killed by Thanos.
I wouldnt mind seeing a version of the Avengers where they are like the worst/dumbest versions of themselves with David Hasselhoff as Nick Fury.
Black Panther played by Martin Lawrence.
@@PittsburghSonido Michael Sera as Ironman
chris evans as human torch
Hell yes
You mean Zardu Hasslfrau
I think the self-cest angle is really just more of a metaphor than Loki wanting to "romance himself." Loki is taking a long, hard look at himself, thus realizing he is pretty much an ineffectual shit, and in this new awareness is deciding to do something about it and be a better man. He's on a fast-track to where he was before he "died" without all the months of therapy and self-help exercises.
He’s learning to love himself.
I really want to get excited to see Kang show up at the end as the villain but I’m mostly expecting Jonathan majors to show up as the character Hugh Janus and get killed by Loki
If Loki's pretending to be cold then so is Sylvie
😏
i dont think every version of loki is a frost giant
@@RED01SEA She confirms that she knows she's a frost giant in Episode 3
@@Moizsh10 no , she confirm that she is adopted , last time i checked adopted dont = frost giant
@@RED01SEA what I understood is that she knew what being "adopted" implied. But it's still possible I suppose given all the variations that could lead to a Loki
14:08 The timing of Bucky’s nod and transition to smh, all set to James’ utterance of “nod” and Maso’s “decloaked behind you” gag. I don’t know how you do it, Rob. Like, how quickly did you gravitate to using this shot of Bucky? It’s insane how subtly perfect it is.
Right?! It was so excellent, maybe it came to him because they're both called James lool
3:49 “A friend of mine” playing over the video of “a friend from work” was a just one of many small strokes of genius from this vid. Great job all.
One theory I’ve started to like is that King Loki is behind the TVA. I’m the comics, King Loki was a future version of Loki who became King of Asgard and became insane. He then went back in time to try and ensure his existence in the future. Seeing as how we’ve had various variants of Loki, I think it would be interesting if he was the protagonists and antagonist in this too. It’s basically one Loki who succeeded in his ultimate goals and tries to ensure that no other Lokis will pose a threat to his existence.
In some screenshots from the trailers, that haven’t been in episodes yet, one is of a Loki in the Asgard throne room standing with his arms out wide, while Asgardians applause him. So maybe that’s the King Loki when he first took power?
although it would be kinda lazy to have as the bad guy a dark version of the protagonist again.
Hmm, true, we haven't seen that throne room scene yet. King Loki doesn't sound all that interesting, though. But I can totally belive that Marvel would throw in a billion Kang references to get people excited and then reveal it was King Loki. That's right up their ally.
@@emilianoortiz8795 In the context of the show I think it could be pulled off, after coming to terms with being told their only purpose is to fail, and help others better themselves, it could be quite the contrast in having a Loki that ultimately succeeded where others didn’t and is in fact trying to keep all other Lokis from succeeding and improving themselves.
Omg Borat saying “wawaweewa” after discovering Barry Minutes was behind everything all along killed me
It's simple: we call the Gator "Florida Loki."
It is the craziest gator I've seen since lake placid.
Florida-Man Loki?
Bayou Loki
Everyone online seems to have decided on 'Croki'
@@SirStrangefolk Personally, I'll stick with Lokigator. Since it's an alligator.
The Sphinx's nose didn't broke, so that's why it was pruned into the end of time lol
It’s probably another Loki, there was a scene of Loki in his outfit in a dark room much like the castle, our Loki doesn’t seem to want to change his dress shirt and tie, there’s also him in Asgard’s throne room which is yet to be seen. Also Mobius’s comment that they prune more Loki’s than any other variant hints towards it as well. I would say the time keepers laughing isn’t something Kang would do, Loki would be the one to enjoy the looks on their faces when they realize the Time Keepers were fake.
I predict that it’s gonna be like the first Avengers where Loki is the bad but he works for an ever bigger bad (Thanos). And in the show it’s gonna be a bad King Loki working for Kang
It’s also possible that they pulled an avengers infinity war and put a couple scenes in the trailer that aren’t really in the show
Sounds better to me than anything else said.
I'm convinced it will be a Loki too. Not just any Loki, I think it might be "our" Loki far in the future. Remember Sylvie asking Loki if she could trust him not to betray her at the very end? It made me think - if the big bad is Kang or someone similar, there's not a chance in hell that Loki would betray Sylvie for them at this point, so it's a weird question. The only person I can think of which might make Loki think twice about betraying Sylvie right now is himself. If he sees himself at the fruition of his glorious purpose, effective ruler of all of the timelines, and that version of him tries to convince him to take over the TVA in the past, to eventually become the Loki in the future - *that* might give him a moment of doubt.
In my mind this scenario perfectly embodies all of the themes of the series. Destiny/duty/glorious purpose, self doubt/self loathing/seeing the best in oneself/learning to love oneself, trust and betrayal. All condensed down to a single choice: does Loki choose Sylvie, who shows him what a Loki is capable of, or does he choose his long desired crown and power.
Of course I fully expect that Loki will stick with Sylvie (probably after a fake-out where he pretends to betray her to get closer to king Loki) and they'll end up taking down king Loki,. And then (possibly in a post-credits) we'll find out he wasn't ruling over the timeline just because he enjoyed ruling, but that he was deliberately trying to stop Kang by pruning the multiverse, and that will lead into Kang in the movies.
And then we'll see Mobius on a jet ski, because Chekov's jet ski.
They are deleted scenes from a movie. Don't know which one.
Richard E Grant put in one of the best and most memorable performances in the history of Comic Book Media. Easily my favourite episode from any of these series and one of my favourite episodes of TV ever
9:18 "Here's the thing though" OK RAWCollings, you win lmao
🤣🤣🤣
Aha cheers for catching!
7:28 editing gold!
this is when the show reveals that everything is just an endless cycle of Loki variants usurping a throne at the end of time, his true ultimate purpose is to overthrow a version of himself over and over again.
Yo...this might actually be it
Probably not since theres most likely gonna be a season 2
@@Jayden-fg8on maybe the cycle is broken by the Loki we are following🤔
Fun fact: The Tv show Doctor Who did in fact have a scene of two characters committing “Self-cest” in the episode entitled “the Doctor Falls”
Also, the mini-episodes Time and Space have Amy flirting with herself. Rory does not have a problem with it.
The Doctor also bangs historical figures as well.
He did snog Madame Du Pompadour lol (im not googling the spelling, deal with it)
Doctor Who: Time Bard
@@doomstadt2371 and Queen Elizabeth I, Rose, Marilyn Monroe, Stephen Fry, Cleopatra...
11:39 What a fantastic edit! Don't know how he you would have thought to use that clip but it works so well.
Cheers to your overworked editor!
I think the big bad is king loki, makes sense that a show about a self center person would be his own villain, also it makes sense that hes killing past versions/timelines in order to prevent them from changing the timeline that leads to him
Same. It just wouldn't make sense for a brand new character to show up in the finale
Only a Loki can overthrow a Loki.
@@FerociousPaul the ONLY clue is the Queng on avengers tower. May be a red herring but yeah i.m.o. a loki created the TVA maybe even our "killed" by thanos loki
That would make more sense thematically but it wouldn’t be the most exciting twist. So i’m not sure how ppl would react knowing that a lot of them are hoping for Kang
Thor 1 will now and forever be called “Thor: First Thor” 15:01
The Thanoscopter everyone!
Next up, Thanos Car.
Dammit, Rob. That Thanos butt shot made me spit coke on my monitor.
that part when Mephisto came out as bisexual was amazing
The part where ppl troll dumb sayings on every one of these videos is the WORST thing ever
Mr Sunday movies comments sections are some of the best I’ve ever seen.
@@captaintoyota3171 the part where you can’t even make a sentence that makes sense
Me fist men.... Am I right!
@@BLACULA-Skeewoah yes
The Thing sprinting across the screen at 9:19 was also an extremly funny edit.
The Master did have a brief relationship with himself, John Simm's Master came back and interacted with Michelle Gomez's female version and turned her against the Doctor after he'd spent a few centuries trying to reform her & they were very much handsy and all over each other
I think that was different tho because that was literally the same person a few years apart, whereas Sylvie and Loki are different people with different parents and all.
Both are weird IMO.
@@dyiawblou1671 yeah so in the episode with the two of them, if I recall correctly, it ends with John Simn master being killed and going lower in the ship, to regenerate into Missy, hence why Missy teamed up with the cybermen the first time we see her. Missy then dies but Moffat literally said at the time that the Master would return *somehow*. So yeah I think we’re just supposed to believe that she lived somehow, or time got rewritten, doesn’t really matter at the end of the day.
There were also at one point two Amy Ponds in the TARDIS flirting with each other in a minisode.
And Jack Harkness fantasized about 10th Doctor X Metacrisis Doctor
The Master never really dies, so I don't think it's an issue.
@@SirStrangefolkOh yeah I absolutely forgot about the two Ponds lmao, Steven Moffat loves writing scripts with one hand
I would like for the big bad guy to be Kang, I don’t think it’s impossible, but I feel like we still haven’t learned our lesson from Mephisto. I think it’s almost certainly another Loki.
Yeah, its King Loki.
I mean, at least Kang's already cast and confirmed in another project down the line. We didn't have that with Mephisto.
@@viniciusvyller9458 I would like King Loki, if they really leaned into it.
You know the living tribunal head was totally just an asset from endgame they wanted to get their money’s worth out of (hence Asgard showing up so often)
I thought the black Loki with the hammer was supposed to be “Loki: god of thunder”, like in his universe he swapped powers with thor or something
I mean, we don't really know much about his backstory since his story seems to be a lie so that he can brag, so could be
He's a Thor that's trying to pretend to be Loki, maybe!
The hammer was made out of a wrench and a piece of girder or train track. Might have been a nod to wrecking crew?
@@LobbyDaLobster it was actually a Piston rod from an engine not a wrench, but it’s not like it matters
Loki, Loki and Loki walk into a bar…
"Three pints of Glorious Purpose, please."
Glorious Purpose is a good name for a guest ale.
That's Loki-wang!!!
@@luckyspurs A* reply, thank you
Collings did a awesome job with the cut from Loki falling in Ragnorok to him getting up in the Lamentis episode
Cheers so much mate! Was looking for an excuse since that ep. It only kinda fits in the topic but anyway this is probably too much information and thank you!!!
The middle of the episode felt like a game of D&D.
DM: “You see a gargantuan eternal guardian of this realm. What do you do?”
Rouge: “I ENCHANT IT!”
DM: “Sorry what now...you *enchant* the eternal realm guardian?? You’ll need a nat 20.”
Rouge: NAT20
DM “goddamnit”
Loki assisted, so she got to roll with advantage
Classic Loki pulling off a 9th lvl Major Image
Rogue, not rouge.
@@kendyer8761 now I want to roll a prestige class called Rouge just to confuse things.
I didn't interpret Ms.Minutes as being "sus" at all. I thought she was just helping Renslayer buy time till the guards got there to deal with Sylvie
The only theory I have is that Throg's Nexus event is he's the only frog in the multiverse to escape Tom Holland's mouth
Oh my god. I audibly squeaked when I read this. Bravo.
Absolute banger comment Elijah, deserved more likes
My favorite part was when Mason says “here’s the thing” and a tiny little The Thing goes across the bottom of the screen… excellent editing.
I'm very disappointed they didn't even mention the weird floating ball headed purple chicken running around in the Void....
That's no wall to talk about Simon Pegg.
@@luckyspurs 😂😂😂
I absolutely loved Classic Loki. I hope to see more of him and other flashy '60s style characters.
Can’t believe I missed the Polybius cabinet, it’s my favorite urban legend.
Polybius was a Loki variant too. That's why it played mind games with people.
The text on top of the bunker entrance is in Hindi.
Top text is just an "Aa" sound but bottom texts say:
Saavdhaan meaning caution and Barfeela meaning snowy.
Maybe the last part has to do with them being frost giants 🤔
@@rpandya97 Yep
"Here's the Thing though..." Brilliant!
Everyone is going to be SO UPSET when it turns out it was OWEN WILSON ALL ALONG.
Not mobius, the actual actor Owen Wilson
Inverted Mobius. It was in Endgame all along.
yeah so far to me its owen wilson or kang the counquer but it has 1 episode left how the heck they gonna introduce new char?
@@markdavis2053 Maso would want it no other way.
@@Salty010 Well so far everyone has basically expected just that to happen in every series, and so far CRAZY UNEXPECTED CAMEO/TWIST is 0/2.
I assume it'll be 0/3.
The Thing sliding across the screen at 9:19 when mason says ‘well I dunno here’s the thing though’ is absolute *John Favreau Kiss* (like chefs kiss cos he was in the film chef).
The quality of these is always so good. Collins and the wickadee wackadee boys at it again!
Loki actually did make friends along the way. What a trickster
Y’all literally have the best editors on RUclips
Apparently the secret to Collings' quick turnaround is a plethora of Borat references
Very nice.
No comment < 3
8:02 They are both Frost Giants. Loki Laufeyson and Sylvie Laufeydottir both have Laufey the Frost Giant as their father. It's literally in their names.
My fan theory is that the fans though about it more than the writers.
I think Sylvia's nexus event is that she's not actually a Loki.
Entrantress instead
@@ordinary_deepfake I was about to mention this bit actually
I certainly hope so.
That random borat was hilarious! “King of the castle” 😂
The only thing we figured out were the friends we made along the way
Do you want to hug me? Then I have to shatter your dreams: I am in a relationship with TWO females! They are also huge fans of me, YT Megastar AxxL! Please don't be too disappointed, dear ty
Who needs friends when you have FAMILY
This is actually accurate all things considered
The editing on these videos is incredible underrated haha.
Thank you!!
Miss minutes was stalling for time so the guards could come and kill sylvie
Yeah i thought that the "time ship" was a rather obvious signal or code word for "call for help!", as well.
But then after that, when Renslayer was asking for the files on the creation of the TVA, it also felt like she was perhaps stalling or trying to divert.
yeah they completely misread that and they need to not do so mach talk on a character the average person barely remembers
@@tobiolufotebi8995
They knew it was a stall. They were just speculating on whether it was also a lie.
(Most likely it was, of course.)
Rewatched the last two episodes recently. It's still bloody cracking. It's my favourite show apart from She-Hulk but to be fair they're probably tied
Slim chance, but I want a Dr Doom reveal in that castle!
I wouldn’t be surprised if Mobius was a Loki of some kind. He is able to catch their lies and manipulate them showing that he is on the same level as a Loki in the trickery department. Mobius also said he was a fan of Loki and definitely is continued to be shown to have a soft spot for the Loki’s. Him liking the Loki’s could go into the whole narcissistic situation of Loki’s only being able to like themselves
Also he automatically reached the void like other pruned Lokis
I love how when Collings was forced to represent himself in the edit, he chose exclusively shots of Alligator Loki.
Great stuff for mentioning Ahoy! His channel is brilliant.
Kid Loki was sipping on Hi-C ecto cooler in the boy cave
The scene where Mobius drives a pizza truck is a double Pixar easter egg. It references Owen Wilson’s role as Lightning McQueen, as well as the Pizza Planet truck.
Thanks for being such a good mate, Collings.
Jesus, Collings is amazing, the editing this week is so clever!
Completely unlikely, but I want it to be Stan Lee in the castle controlling it all. It would be the best final cameo.
Props to Collings for the editing. The transition at 7:27 was awesome
Props to Branse Lowe for being a freakin' beacon of positivity. Cheers legend.
I really think Miss Minutes acting “suspicious” was just her complying with a kidnapper and surreptitiously calling security. Idt she’s at the center of all this
Totally agree.
Sure, but why is she being suss when she's with Renslayer alone?
. I was wondering the same thing. She does hold all the info related to how the TVA started, maybe she's not suppose to reveal that type of info to anyone, including Judge Renslayer. Maybe there's info in there on her, that she's not suppose to know.
I'm assuming Renslayer was mind wiped how everyone else was in the TVA, so she could wanna know who she really was before the TVA. Just my guess/opinion
@@eastvandb i believe that Miss Minutes is in charge of certain information that is outside of Renslayer’s level of clearance but i dont think she’s behind the scenes operating any of the TVA shenanigans. I think she’s quite literally just a computer system for the TVA and thats that
@@80lemon80
I guess we'll find out next week!
The editing matching your commentary with scenes, faces, and situations is perfect.
Barry Minutes is already my favourite MCU character and he’s not even real 9:59
Of course you think he's not real. That's exactly what he needs you to believe so he can pull all of the strings behind the scenes.
Good job on these Cawlings
Given that they made Enchantress a Loki variant, I see no reason they couldn't make Kang a Loki variant, too.
PS: This move also has the benefit of both rewarding comic book fans (for noticing the Kang references) and *still* being a twist that we wouldn't see coming.
Also, I'm still holding out for the theory that EVERYONE IN THE SHOW IS JUST A LOKI VARIANT.
You’re a Loki variant.
Collings is so good at editing these things. The footage of Johnathan Majors putting on a clown nose at the 17:15 …. Amazing.
I think the main villain is going to be… a jet ski, and the only way to defeat it is to have Mobius rides it… bring that story full circle lol
"Ride me!! If. You. Dare."
Fantastic video. The team is doing such a great job.
These videos just make me want dr who reviews from james and mason
Shout out Ahoy's shout out, the man deserves some recognition
Personally, I'd guess Immortus is using the TVA to prevent Kang from coming into existence.
I only knew of the existence of the Thanos Copter thanks to my favorite CoG episode, which also discusses the nuances of slippery cubes and cross-eyed dogs. So when I spotted it in the show, I was well-prepared. In addition to being riotously funny, you guys are a masters-level educational resource! 😂