I thought she was going to be sitting in her time lair, and being like welcome loki now I will explain my timecrimeschemery. And no she's just flying by the seat of her pants the episode still resulted in an exposition dump but definitely situated to shed alot of the mystery around Enchantress, and she's on a revenge kick too all Loki's are teenagers. It really gelled for me when Loki said "You're So Weird" It's like a meta comment on the strong female character archetype thats big right now where she's strong and motivated but has no idea what she's actually all about why she's doing any of it really, looks like they may play around with it.
I think that is to show that like Loki, she’s still very much a bullshiiter, she’s very secretive already, so how much of the little info we have is actually true?
@@elderrusty541 We're talking about Loki, God of mischief, Burdened with glorious Charisma. I wouldn't be surprised if he already knew how to do enchantments and this is all an act to get information out of Sylvie. Who are you? Where did you learn magic? What's your endgame? What are my potential escape routes? ect
@@piffling2238 Nah in the last episode he made it pretty clear that it was a unique ability that he didn't have when he first met her when she was controlling the people in the Roxxon store or whatever.
The issue with the Sylvie enchanting Loki theory is that she says that for tricky minds she has to create an illusion based on their memories and there’s no way Loki has memories of Lamentis
She says that AFTER the Enchanting is supposed to have already worked…. I think her napping makes it less likely though. The trick I’m thinking is the Time Pad being destroyed at all. It wasn’t in his pockets…
I have a theory that Loki put Sylvie in a mind control illusion because she specifically said she wasn't going to sleep and yet we later saw her waking up from a nap. Plus Loki reversed a falling building
Or maybe its a double illusion? Sylvie put loki in an illusion when she touched his head at the start and went into the illusion with him to find the tempad. But on the train loki put sylie into an illusion also, which has caused sylvie to forget she was casting an illusion
@@grandmoffjake6871 or maybe the entire MCU is an illusion and it was created by this corporation called Disney to further their capital gain and agendas
I feel like this was a medicine episode, they need to establish a relationship between Loki and Sylvie so they just got it all in during this episode so hopefully the second half is more exciting now that their dynamic is setup.
The postman that Sylvie is in a relationship with is OBVIOUSLY the postman from Wandavision, wich will come back in this show and reveal himself as Mephsito!
@@teddy-fl6hm yall keep throwing that out in the wrong way, dude wants to fuck dogs, dont lump the pan community in with that (loki i mean, loki fucks dogs)
@@connorbovingdon8563 Calm down mate and separate the myth from the Marvel. We all love our horse-mom Loki jokes, but I'm fairly certain this version of Loki doesn't do doggos. Dog-esque aliens that might appeal to furries? Who's to say? But no canon bestiality here.
@@Mayydayy86 Correction: before the Dr. Who movie came out in the 80's Paramount pitched an idea of the doctor being played by several famous people at the time, Michael Jackson is one and Bill Cosby another. Although they settled for the wonderful Paul McGann
@@dobson. the movie came out in the 90s, and the Michael Jackson thing was pitched in the 80s. They were both pitched to Paramount but as seperate ideas.
Theory: Mobius is the post man that Sylvie was in love with. She was hiding out in his era, before an earthquake decimated his town and everyone in it. She eventually decided to talk to him, after seeing him die over and over, thinking it wouldn't change anything. The jet ski mag was a piece of junk mail he delivered and they had small talk about it (like how it looks cool, and he really wants to try it). But the conversation convinced him to yolo, leave his job and town, to go to Hawaii and jet ski. He lives and voila, he's a variant.
I like the theory that the TVA is in the quantum realm, and it's the city we see in the background of antman and the wasp... because both antman and the original wasp both say time works differently in the quantum realm, which is exactly what Mobius says about the TVA. Also... we know Antman 3 is called Quantumania, and Kang is the main villain. So it would make sense if Kang is the behind the TVA.
@@Montross If you think that will be the last time we see Kang you're very wrong, they're only introducing him in AntMan so more people will see it since AM&TW failed
@@Montross I doubt they're wasting him... I guarantee he'll be back in other films. I'm hoping they're setting him as the next big threat. Early theory, they're using him to set up a secret wars arc at the end of this new saga... I mean they're really working hard on this whole Multiverse thing, and since this last saga was all about the infinity stones, with Thanos being the end goal for that set up. It would make total sense for this whole 2nd saga to be all about the Multiverse so we can lead up to a Secret Wars movie. With Kang being the puppet master behind it.
@@Whiteythereaper Nah not the Tardis, like the actual instrument used in the DW intro from 60’s was used in the intro when Loki was looking around the TVA.
@@ClayCampbell the instrument is called a theremin! Edit: theremin’s do exist but they didn’t use one for doctor who. Shout out to “Thread Bomb” below for the correction
I think Sylvie is Loki's daughter from the TVA future. She hates being called Loki, She has been running from the TVA all her life and she's never met her mum. Loki keeps bringing up his mum as one of the only people he actually likes. I think Loki is Sylvie's mum and Owen Wilson is her dad. They made love on a jet ski and abandoned Sylvie to be a time criminal.
Thanks for making me laugh so often and consistently with your videos fellas, i’m battling very severe levels of depression, i cant laugh enough these days, much love
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If loki could throw a building without time stone assistance, how has he had his frost-giant-arse handed to him by characters weighing less than a building?
No, from the latest Marvel featurette it looks like Sylvie was kidnapped from Asgard as a little girl by the TVA (probably arrested for being a Variant). So she never got to grow up on Asgard or participate in Ragnarok.
I really like how they’re giving Loki a lot of dialogue and how he interacts with people and even himself, for me at least, gives a better sense of how he truly is as a person.
I think Lokis the one fooling Silvy in this episode, not the other way around. Silvy really believes Loki broke their one ticket home after getting near drunk and bumbling off the train, but in fact that broken time pad was an illusion. He's waiting for her to divulge all the information about her plan after she accepts they are going to die anyway. Then he will whip it out and reveal he never broke the time pad. Maybe he will be evil and leave her there to die in a drastic tone change for the series.
I could see that... well, all of it except him leaving her there. I dont think he'd do that. If anything he'd try to keep her alive and convince her to help him overthrow the "time keepers"
@@samwisefieri6696 I agree that's more likely. But Hiddleston did say theirs an episode in the middle of the series where after thinking he knew where the script was going, it went in a completely different direction than he was expecting for the rest of the series. Maybe he was talking about the seemingly unearned arc of Loki turning good at this stage in his life. Maybe it looks like he's slowly realizing his potential as a good guy, and is trying to do the right thing for everyone, but in fact hes still evil and back stabby. Maybe it looks like he wants to team up with this fellow rebel Loki, but In fact he wants to do things all on his own still. Or the twist hes talking about is purely time travel rules related. Who knows.
however you can't expect anything from AoS to be Canon in the MCU. Especially given how differently they seem to be dealing with time travel and the rules of such.
My girlfriend and I have been holding out for Owen Wilson to say "kachow". Now that "wow" is officially confirmed to not be taking up that opportunity I'm very excited.
Not really an issue but it bugs me the TVA suffer from "lightsaber syndrome" (patent pending). They've got a weapon that kills with the lightest touch yet they pull back their arm for big powerful swings and slashes as if it's a sword. Jabs would work way better. Watch some of the lightsaber fights in the prequels and see how much energy and time they waste trying to generate powerful attacks when a quick poke would win the fight.
@@PseudoFiction Slashing itself isn't a bad idea. Doing really big exaggerated slashes is. The blade is mostly light* so it doesn't really weigh much so they should by all means do incredibly quick and simple slashes since they don't need any force behind their strikes to actually be effective. Fencing still isn't a bad idea though, with a proper stance you'd remove yourself as for as possible from the enemy lightsaber whilst still being able to strike.
I think everything is probably a lot simpler than fan speculation is going for on this one; the TVA being a fascist organisation in that it enforces a singular, sacred timeline, and every variant, alternate timeline, or multiverse (that judging by the quick look at all the different variations on Loki, already totally exist) are probably just being suppressed or otherwise dominated by the TVA, and Sylvie just wants to end that and allow the multiverses to exist freely, each being valid in their own right.
@@vinoveritas757 I’ve heard a theory that she was raised by the evil King Loki variant (played by Richard E Grant) and that’s why she hates being called Loki.
shes said that thing about loik being a prince. thats leads me to think she was not a princess and didnt grow up on asguard she also mentioned runing from the TVA her whole life.- one would assume that her whole was destroyed by the tva or some other entity.
@@Nnm26 Laufeydottir is a patronymic, not a surname. It means "daughter of Laufey". If her father was Loki, she would be Lokidottir. Asgardians don't use surnames but patronymics, that's why Thor refers to himself as both Odinson and "son of Odin" interchangeably, and why he calls agent Coulson "son of Coul". Parents and their children don't use the same patronymic, for example Odin is Odin Borson (not Odin Odinson) because his father's name was Bor.
2:16 Funny you should say that because during this episode I came to the conclusion that Female Loki was the Female Doctor Who we deserved. Stoic, clever, charming, stylish, cool, bad ass and capable with a thick coat of mystery. Not the floundering amalgamation of all the bits stuck to the side of a blender that recently held the previous male incarnations, but a unique character who differentiates it's self from it's male counterpart.
And with much better writing. I feel like Jodie had worse acting in doctor who. I'm sure she is good in other things like broadchurch but I hated her as the doctor. Even tried to rewatch but I stopped after a season and a bit. I thought it might get good later - I was mistaken. Everyone watching now must have stockholme syndrome
@@jamesramplin8124 No. It's hope. The Doctor keeps being reborn. As long as viewership doesn't drop, and the show doesn't get canceled, there is hope for a better Doctor. As far as Jodie's version, the problem isn't her. Her talents are being wasted. She could be an excellent Doctor. The character development was a disaster. Instead of basing the new personna off of her strengths as an actress and adding a dash of quirks or some sort of Easter egg from previous incarnations for continuity and flavor, they literally based her characterization on a hodge podge of what came before. The show runner took all the traits of every whacky Doctor that came before, placed all of their traits on a wall, and threw darts and kept what stuck. The result is neurotic mess that seems like she is trying to hard to be something she's not. Manic pixie girl with an identity crisis.
@@bern9642 yeah, also Loki and Sylvie have great chemistry surprisingly, I thought the train scene was going to he awkward but I honestly really enjoyed it
I'm kinda shocked at your feelings on this episode. The word "filler" never crossed my mind while watching this episode. I've seen other channels say this is the best so far, and while I don't know if I'd say that, I really enjoyed it, certainly not any less than the other 2. But you guys state multiple times like it's the common consensus, that this was the weakest episode / a filler episode. I mean we're all entitled to our opinions of course, I was just taken back a little after what I thought was a strong episode and character introduction for Sylvie. Regardless, great video, Collings rocks, and I loved the live segment.
@@SaulGMV Filler is much more than that. There are filler episodes in many long series, and filler songs on most albums, but I don't feel many of these short series have filler. In the instance of the these shorter 6-10 episode series, I think you're absolutely right. This episode was fun and probably explains some of the most important parts of the story, and certainly had the most Loki story in a series called Loki.
@@andrewrussell5653 Well actually, so did James & Maso, inspiring my comment in the first place. So... what are you saying here? You're not being contrarian, you're agreeing with what my original comment was surprised at with zero explanation. So you did nothing here. Explain your case, or you've essentially added nothing to this discussion.
It felt like filler to me because at the end of episode 2 they end with everyone at the TVA dropping a duce because "someone bombed the sacred time line". That sounds like a significant development that should have major developments in the next episodes moving forward. Instead the episode has a buddy cop road trip story. The end of the previous episode really is not addressed through the bulk of this episode. Instead of tackling the over arching storyline set up in the previous 2 episodes, this deviates and ATM doesn't feel connected to the established throughline. I personally left episode 2 expecting to see the aftermath of lady loki's actions and it was kind of exciting. Instead it was these two bumbling around for 30 minutes. I'm curious if when we see episode 4 if you'll be able to skip the majority of episode 3 and not be confused or missing anything. If you can skip it, that means it's just filler. I hope that this clears up why they said that it feels like filler. If you liked or loved the episode, great. I'm not trying to take that away from you. But personally it was a disappointment and I felt let down at the end.
The moment they both realised they were stranded on this moon my excitement dropped, thought this episode really dragged even though its the shortest yet. I liked the first 2, hoping the next eps pick up the pace a bit Edit: If Mobius saves the Loki's on a Jet-Ski next episode then the series is 10/10
Loki didn't stop the building with the time stone. The scene didn't display time being rewinded. Loki has telekinesis which he definitely showed he had in episode 2. Marvel went out of their way to show you that ability.
It was definitely the selective time reversal from the end of Doctor Strange. TK would have pushed it up or out, but not EXACTLY back in its upright position (moving up exactly on the arc it fell on) with all the debris and chunks from the base of the structure formed back into place, FUSED back into the building, and the building immediately restablalized like it never collapsed.
I really like the bit where Loki sounds sad or disgusted when he realizes the rich people/government of the moon will let the people die which shows he isn't pure evil, with Pompeii it was out of the control of people and was a surprise but here they had time and more resources to help people but just let them die
Doesn't really fit his character imo, he was just murdering people on Earth for fun a week ago. If it was Ragnarok Loki, sure, but not a week post Avengers Loki.
@@majorleaguegains5597 I do somewhat agree that he feels like Ragnarok Loki sometimes even tho this is right after Avengers, but I always thought Ragnarok Loki was basically Loki if he had a bit of an epiphany which kind of happened in the first episode to a slight extent
My rampant speculation theory is that Sylvie isn't actually a Loki variant, she's his daughter from another timeline (and her dad is King Loki and like wrecked her entire universe)
Can we talk about how depowered loki is in this series. Like he is a frost giant, raised by asgardians and yet he keeps getting his ass handed to him by regular humans. Like the time cops are one thing, they had tech that caught him of guard, but literally just random shoppers in the last episode and the train guards in this one. He should easily be able to take out any number of humans at once.
Interesting theory that it's Sylvie creating the illusion. What if it's Loki? He finds out how she controls minds but had reversed it on her to find out what she's really about. The time pad isn't broken, that's just Loki's illusion for her so he can find out what her real intentions are.
I’m risking this cliche sh*t HOPING the show doesn’t go this way: Owen’s character is Sylvie’s lost love. Let’s F*CKING HOPE THIS ISN’T THE ROAD THEY’RE TAKINGGGG
Since Sylvie's a fan of hiding in apocalypses, I thought the Postman might be a cheeky reference to the post-apocalyptic Postman books/movie with Kevin Costner.
Loki reversing the falling building suggests either he's being tricked by Sylvie, or he's pocketed a Time Stone from the drawer full of Infinity Stones - can't wait for the next episode!
Does anyone else think that the "meteor" storms were VERY convenient? All of a sudden they can walk across swaths of wasteland without a single meteor falling?
Mason: I don’t think Loki has the ability to move stuff with mind Collings: On screen now you’ll see several examples of Loki moving things with his mind.
The reason Owen Wilson likes jetski is that he was a jetski before working for the TVA
He was a variant in the universe where he was supposed to be born a red racecar
JetSki is just short for John krasinSki!
He is a Coulson variant and the jetski is a combination of Coulson's love for cars and beaches.
Yes he was a jetski
He's already been a car and a motorcycle
I was a little saddened that the big reveal didn't turn out to be James's Brother, the one Maso doesn't like.
I always wonder if his brother watches any of these videos.
Do you mean ...Grames? I'm pretty sure the ellipses is part of his name.
Her plan that was “years in the making” was pretty shit tbf which means she definitely is a Loki because he makes exclusively shit plans
the only reason her plan didn’t go as planned is because of Loki
I thought she was going to be sitting in her time lair, and being like welcome loki now I will explain my timecrimeschemery. And no she's just flying by the seat of her pants the episode still resulted in an exposition dump but definitely situated to shed alot of the mystery around Enchantress, and she's on a revenge kick too all Loki's are teenagers. It really gelled for me when Loki said "You're So Weird" It's like a meta comment on the strong female character archetype thats big right now where she's strong and motivated but has no idea what she's actually all about why she's doing any of it really, looks like they may play around with it.
Her plan? Judo throw all the Mall Cops.
The years in the making, was she getting all the reset charges.
Which Loki? Him Loki or her Loki?
Sylvie says she doesn't fall asleep on trains, then falls asleep on the train. I think that's where the "didn't really happen" begins.
Maybe this is an enchantception. Sylvie enchants Loki at the trailer, then Loki enchants Sylvie on the train.
I think that is to show that like Loki, she’s still very much a bullshiiter, she’s very secretive already, so how much of the little info we have is actually true?
@@elderrusty541 We're talking about Loki, God of mischief, Burdened with glorious Charisma. I wouldn't be surprised if he already knew how to do enchantments and this is all an act to get information out of Sylvie.
Who are you? Where did you learn magic? What's your endgame? What are my potential escape routes? ect
@@piffling2238 Nah in the last episode he made it pretty clear that it was a unique ability that he didn't have when he first met her when she was controlling the people in the Roxxon store or whatever.
@@robertfrost8264 but then she teaches him how to do it. It seems like magic is taught in the MCU and not a unique trait.
The issue with the Sylvie enchanting Loki theory is that she says that for tricky minds she has to create an illusion based on their memories and there’s no way Loki has memories of Lamentis
Maybe Loki is enchanting Sylvie?
She could’ve been lying, you know like Loki would….
She says that AFTER the Enchanting is supposed to have already worked….
I think her napping makes it less likely though.
The trick I’m thinking is the Time Pad being destroyed at all. It wasn’t in his pockets…
What if Mobius is literally just a variant of Owen Wilson
An army of Owen Wilson’s from the all the timelines
Mobius is Loki.
And Lightning McQueen is another one
@@HelloWorld-yn6fx cachow
Kinda reminds me how there's a version of spiderman that's just an actor in the Spiderman Animated series.
I think that the time pad breaking was Loki's illusion and a deliberate plan in order to get to know Sylvies motives
Tom Hiddleston's male Lokie should be renamed Blokie.
I’ve been calling the female one Cloaki because of her cape
'E's a feckin' legen' mate!
And female Loki should be Woki, am I bloody right?
Great joke Dad
Can puppet James be in these videos more often? The package opening clip was hilarious!
I have a feeling that Miss Minutes definitely has an eight-legged horse in this race.
“It could be you, me or Dupree!” Maso killing it as always
And he can do firework hands
That puppet really captured James’ frantic nature
Puppet?
Yeah the puppet
Very good
Very very good
you mean the one sitting next to James?
I have a theory that Loki put Sylvie in a mind control illusion because she specifically said she wasn't going to sleep and yet we later saw her waking up from a nap. Plus Loki reversed a falling building
Or maybe its a double illusion? Sylvie put loki in an illusion when she touched his head at the start and went into the illusion with him to find the tempad. But on the train loki put sylie into an illusion also, which has caused sylvie to forget she was casting an illusion
@@grandmoffjake6871 illusionception
@@grandmoffjake6871 or maybe the entire MCU is an illusion and it was created by this corporation called Disney to further their capital gain and agendas
@@grandmoffjake6871 that will be very unsatisfying.
@@bern9642 why?
Much love from Ireland lads 🇮🇪
Woh a fellow Irish fan
Poser
@@Gnarlypapa wait are you Irish as well, cause if so 2 Irish berserk fans let's goo!!!
Yup dublin here
@@evanrooney5903 I'm from cork
I feel like this was a medicine episode, they need to establish a relationship between Loki and Sylvie so they just got it all in during this episode so hopefully the second half is more exciting now that their dynamic is setup.
So this series is Doctor Who, just set in the MCU. Both Loki and the Doctor are both run-a-ways, there’s time travel, a time war, and companions
This feels very much like a Doctor Who episode, and I loved it.
Also, for sure one of the other Loki variants is Corn of Coblin.
The postman that Sylvie is in a relationship with is OBVIOUSLY the postman from Wandavision, wich will come back in this show and reveal himself as Mephsito!
I genuinely wonder if it's him and the hex is an "apocalypse" event
Loki being revealed as bi fits his character and they don't make a big awkward scene of it. Totally natural and believable.
🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈👍
I kind of assumed he was like Quill where he'd bang just about anything.
@@lordhughmungus so pansexual?
@@teddy-fl6hm yall keep throwing that out in the wrong way, dude wants to fuck dogs, dont lump the pan community in with that (loki i mean, loki fucks dogs)
@@connorbovingdon8563 Calm down mate and separate the myth from the Marvel. We all love our horse-mom Loki jokes, but I'm fairly certain this version of Loki doesn't do doggos. Dog-esque aliens that might appeal to furries? Who's to say? But no canon bestiality here.
John Krasinski is confirmed as Dr Who in the next Loki episode.
Fantastic 4 confirmed!!!
FUN FACT: Dr Who was originally meant to be played by Michael Joseph Jackson
@@Mayydayy86 Correction: before the Dr. Who movie came out in the 80's Paramount pitched an idea of the doctor being played by several famous people at the time, Michael Jackson is one and Bill Cosby another. Although they settled for the wonderful Paul McGann
He'd need a scarf in my eyes, baker style
Get this man a scarf
@@dobson. the movie came out in the 90s, and the Michael Jackson thing was pitched in the 80s. They were both pitched to Paramount but as seperate ideas.
Theory: Mobius is the post man that Sylvie was in love with. She was hiding out in his era, before an earthquake decimated his town and everyone in it. She eventually decided to talk to him, after seeing him die over and over, thinking it wouldn't change anything. The jet ski mag was a piece of junk mail he delivered and they had small talk about it (like how it looks cool, and he really wants to try it). But the conversation convinced him to yolo, leave his job and town, to go to Hawaii and jet ski. He lives and voila, he's a variant.
but what if because of their relationship he invented jet skis TOO SOON and thats why he variated?
@@WildFungus Would be cool.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who cultivated the "Postman Mobius" theory after this episode.
@@emilyclaire28 he's been off camera long enough at this point he could just be Moon Girl by the time he shows back up.
@@emilyclaire28 in the words of General Zod, "you are not alone".
I like the theory that the TVA is in the quantum realm, and it's the city we see in the background of antman and the wasp... because both antman and the original wasp both say time works differently in the quantum realm, which is exactly what Mobius says about the TVA. Also... we know Antman 3 is called Quantumania, and Kang is the main villain. So it would make sense if Kang is the behind the TVA.
That could explain the science behind their time travel powers and understanding through pre established lore for the mcu
Naw
Gtfo they are wasting Kang on antman???
@@Montross If you think that will be the last time we see Kang you're very wrong, they're only introducing him in AntMan so more people will see it since AM&TW failed
@@Montross I doubt they're wasting him... I guarantee he'll be back in other films. I'm hoping they're setting him as the next big threat. Early theory, they're using him to set up a secret wars arc at the end of this new saga... I mean they're really working hard on this whole Multiverse thing, and since this last saga was all about the infinity stones, with Thanos being the end goal for that set up. It would make total sense for this whole 2nd saga to be all about the Multiverse so we can lead up to a Secret Wars movie. With Kang being the puppet master behind it.
Haven’t we learned anything from Wanda? There is way too much thought going into this and it will end with a giant space laser fight.
Wrong.
Nope we do all of marvels creative development for them in head canon
Will it be purple? Blue? Green? Mauve? Start your speculation now!
Ohhhh, I get what you are saying. Loki is Mephisto confirmed.
I love the edit at 16:25 where they included my reaction to that news
I think the biggest reveal was that Loki can't ride backwards on trains.
Puppet James excitement for the Miss Minutes Clock was the best part of this video. Love you guys 🥰
In relation to the doctor who vibe comment, I’m 95% sure they reused the Tardis sound effect during this episode
@@croebot5446 they used the same instrument as the original Doctor Who intro.
I thought i heard the tardis sound from the ark when it was readying
@@ClayCampbell Tardis sound is a house key being dragged along a piano string
@@Whiteythereaper Nah not the Tardis, like the actual instrument used in the DW intro from 60’s was used in the intro when Loki was looking around the TVA.
@@ClayCampbell the instrument is called a theremin!
Edit: theremin’s do exist but they didn’t use one for doctor who. Shout out to “Thread Bomb” below for the correction
When I watched the episode yesterday I didn't realize how much I needed to see loki smash his cup and yell "ANOTHER!"
I think Sylvie is Loki's daughter from the TVA future. She hates being called Loki, She has been running from the TVA all her life and she's never met her mum. Loki keeps bringing up his mum as one of the only people he actually likes. I think Loki is Sylvie's mum and Owen Wilson is her dad. They made love on a jet ski and abandoned Sylvie to be a time criminal.
I wasn't with you until the last sentence but now I'm fully on board
You're so right to say it felt like an episode of Doctor Who, I got the same feeling exactly.
Loki pulled a sneaky one with the broken time control, he defo made an illusion kinda like in Thor: The dark word with Thor’s severed hand
Shit you’re definitely right
well yeah its clearly in subspace not his 'back pocket'
Thanks for making me laugh so often and consistently with your videos fellas, i’m battling very severe levels of depression, i cant laugh enough these days, much love
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If loki could throw a building without time stone assistance, how has he had his frost-giant-arse handed to him by characters weighing less than a building?
Yeah, that Telekinesis ability sure would've been handy against Thor.... Coulson.... Hawkeye.... Hulk.... Thanos....
He's telekinesised some chairs in the past but yeah chairs vs a building ???
@@adamarycurtis7016 Thank you, you have a brain unlike most on here
because the plot needed him to be weaker then humans, even though hes a god
because comic books.
This was actually my favourite episode so far, but I am a Dr Who fan so maybe it's my favourite cause of that.
I like bottle episodes. Good for character building. You might like the fly episode of breaking bad.
If grames doesn’t replace James for the Loki reviews we RIOT
@Stegerj Stickela xie xie
Lol. I was going to comment something similar to this. " More Grames or we riot!"
Your's is better.
Props to whomever edits these videos. They're very engaging!
oh wow mate, thank you!
Anyone notice her outfit most looks like Ragnarok Loki’s? Maybe that’s where she’s from in her timeline. Or maybe it’s just a cool look.
Maybe both 👀
No, from the latest Marvel featurette it looks like Sylvie was kidnapped from Asgard as a little girl by the TVA (probably arrested for being a Variant). So she never got to grow up on Asgard or participate in Ragnarok.
@@proximashining776 spoilers dude
Her style is actually a lot like the God of Stories Loki in the recent comics, with the small crown with one horn broken off.
I really like how they’re giving Loki a lot of dialogue and how he interacts with people and even himself, for me at least, gives a better sense of how he truly is as a person.
I think Lokis the one fooling Silvy in this episode, not the other way around. Silvy really believes Loki broke their one ticket home after getting near drunk and bumbling off the train, but in fact that broken time pad was an illusion. He's waiting for her to divulge all the information about her plan after she accepts they are going to die anyway. Then he will whip it out and reveal he never broke the time pad. Maybe he will be evil and leave her there to die in a drastic tone change for the series.
I could see that... well, all of it except him leaving her there. I dont think he'd do that. If anything he'd try to keep her alive and convince her to help him overthrow the "time keepers"
@@samwisefieri6696 I agree that's more likely. But Hiddleston did say theirs an episode in the middle of the series where after thinking he knew where the script was going, it went in a completely different direction than he was expecting for the rest of the series.
Maybe he was talking about the seemingly unearned arc of Loki turning good at this stage in his life. Maybe it looks like he's slowly realizing his potential as a good guy, and is trying to do the right thing for everyone, but in fact hes still evil and back stabby. Maybe it looks like he wants to team up with this fellow rebel Loki, but In fact he wants to do things all on his own still.
Or the twist hes talking about is purely time travel rules related. Who knows.
Aww james loves it! Thanks Grames for filming such a beautiful moment
Muppet James attacking that clock might just be the funniest thing I’ve seen this week 😂
The editing in this video (and every video) is 100% on point. Cheers, Collins
"It has been confirmed Owen Wilson doesn't say 'wow' in the show"
Worst series ever, 0/10
I'm gutted
i actually enjoyed this episode more than the other two. it finally started to become interesting i didnt see this as a filler.
Sylvie: "You're drunk"
Loki: "No, I'm just full"
Full is the Norwegian word for drunk
Hiddlestons singing in Norwegian was flawless as well
the meaning that we couldnt handle any more liquor seemed readily obvious for sure. tight writing on this show. I like it.
OMG, I was trying to figure out where I have seen this style before and couldn't put it together..... DR. Who.... Thank you
Enchantress' sister showed up in the second episode of Agents of Shield where Sif guest starred. There was no mention of Enchantress however.
however you can't expect anything from AoS to be Canon in the MCU. Especially given how differently they seem to be dealing with time travel and the rules of such.
@@Coldheart322 early AOS is a lot more credible than later AOS though, from what I remember this is season 1 or 2
Yeah as I understand it, AoS is canon up until the time fuckery.
They could just make it a parallel world once the multiverse is open.
You haven't watched it. If you did, you'd know the series' time travel fits with Endgames and Lokis.
My girlfriend and I have been holding out for Owen Wilson to say "kachow". Now that "wow" is officially confirmed to not be taking up that opportunity I'm very excited.
The "I feel like you're always looking down on me it's appropriate." line has to be foreshadowing.
I had the great fortune to play the Lamentian Homesteader and blast Loki not once, but twice. Loved every minute! ❤️
Congrats Susan! 😁😁😁
This whole episode really made you feel like whalers on the moon carrying a harpoon.
"you and I are me and you" is a great line, even better in the context of this series
Not really an issue but it bugs me the TVA suffer from "lightsaber syndrome" (patent pending). They've got a weapon that kills with the lightest touch yet they pull back their arm for big powerful swings and slashes as if it's a sword. Jabs would work way better.
Watch some of the lightsaber fights in the prequels and see how much energy and time they waste trying to generate powerful attacks when a quick poke would win the fight.
the only time a big swing with a lightsaber is necessary is when fighting someone else with a lightsaber lmao
I have an issue that punching someone in a helmet knocks them out and hurts them
So it should be more like the og trilogy fencing style?
nah man, a lightsaber's entire blade is deadly, definitely makes it primarily a slashing weapon, not a stabbing one
@@PseudoFiction Slashing itself isn't a bad idea. Doing really big exaggerated slashes is. The blade is mostly light* so it doesn't really weigh much so they should by all means do incredibly quick and simple slashes since they don't need any force behind their strikes to actually be effective. Fencing still isn't a bad idea though, with a proper stance you'd remove yourself as for as possible from the enemy lightsaber whilst still being able to strike.
Thank you for taking the time to get an instrumentalist, I will be watching this again!
I think everything is probably a lot simpler than fan speculation is going for on this one; the TVA being a fascist organisation in that it enforces a singular, sacred timeline, and every variant, alternate timeline, or multiverse (that judging by the quick look at all the different variations on Loki, already totally exist) are probably just being suppressed or otherwise dominated by the TVA, and Sylvie just wants to end that and allow the multiverses to exist freely, each being valid in their own right.
AGREED!
WandaVision and WinterFalcon both turned out to be simpler than a lot of the wacky theorists thought they would be, so you might be right
I do think it’s simpler, but I don’t think Sylvia is as altruistic as that. She has some other motivation. Don’t know what, though.
@@vinoveritas757 I’ve heard a theory that she was raised by the evil King Loki variant (played by Richard E Grant) and that’s why she hates being called Loki.
@@vinoveritas757 well being concerned about her own freedom in her universe doesn’t seem completely selfless
I laughed at and rewatched the box opening part more times than I'm willing to admit
shes said that thing about loik being a prince. thats leads me to think she was not a princess and didnt grow up on asguard she also mentioned runing from the TVA her whole life.- one would assume that her whole was destroyed by the tva or some other entity.
If she didn't grow up on asgard then the whole "I know I'm adopted" doesn't make any sense.
@@Nnm26 adopted by a Loki
@@heinricheverson and apparently she got the last name laufedottir from him to lol.
@@Nnm26 Laufeydottir is a patronymic, not a surname. It means "daughter of Laufey". If her father was Loki, she would be Lokidottir. Asgardians don't use surnames but patronymics, that's why Thor refers to himself as both Odinson and "son of Odin" interchangeably, and why he calls agent Coulson "son of Coul". Parents and their children don't use the same patronymic, for example Odin is Odin Borson (not Odin Odinson) because his father's name was Bor.
@@proximashining776 I know, it's sarcasm
Outstanding work from Collings, as usual!
In Sylvie's timeline (Lady Loki), she is an Asgardian and was adopted by the Frost Giants instead of the other way around.
But she’s wearing such fine Asgardian leather!
I was just about to fall asleep when I heard "Rest In Post" and laughed super loud and now I'm wide awake at 3am lol. Nice one!
If they needed to get to the last rocket off the planet in order to survive, why were they walking? Run to that thing!
Why run when you can pander
@@saintniccage2818 lmao you people. How does being bisexual equal to pandering? It’s literally one line, blink and you miss it.
@@bacon222 twerk, eat hot chip and lie?
@@extremetoast5723 The 'no politics' crowd are obsessed with politics.
@@saintniccage2818 how is it pandering when Loki has literally always been bi, that is who the character is, like how mythological gods usually are
This channel is just so wholesome
I couldn't stop thinking how much everything looked like the game the outerworlds
SAME😭
2:16 Funny you should say that because during this episode I came to the conclusion that Female Loki was the Female Doctor Who we deserved.
Stoic, clever, charming, stylish, cool, bad ass and capable with a thick coat of mystery. Not the floundering amalgamation of all the bits stuck to the side of a blender that recently held the previous male incarnations, but a unique character who differentiates it's self from it's male counterpart.
And with much better writing. I feel like Jodie had worse acting in doctor who. I'm sure she is good in other things like broadchurch but I hated her as the doctor. Even tried to rewatch but I stopped after a season and a bit. I thought it might get good later - I was mistaken. Everyone watching now must have stockholme syndrome
@@jamesramplin8124 No. It's hope. The Doctor keeps being reborn. As long as viewership doesn't drop, and the show doesn't get canceled, there is hope for a better Doctor.
As far as Jodie's version, the problem isn't her. Her talents are being wasted. She could be an excellent Doctor. The character development was a disaster.
Instead of basing the new personna off of her strengths as an actress and adding a dash of quirks or some sort of Easter egg from previous incarnations for continuity and flavor, they literally based her characterization on a hodge podge of what came before.
The show runner took all the traits of every whacky Doctor that came before, placed all of their traits on a wall, and threw darts and kept what stuck.
The result is neurotic mess that seems like she is trying to hard to be something she's not. Manic pixie girl with an identity crisis.
I was so up for a Loki and Owen Wilson solving mysteries thing, didn't really like the change in tone of Ep 3
first epi without owen wilson and the epi sucks, coincidence i think not
@@noirknight9770 I enjoyed the episode a lot. We get to see two characters trying to outsmart each other.
I think y'all just Owen Wilson fans
@@bern9642 I agree.
How dare a TV show introduce new characters. How dare they I say!
@@bern9642 yeah, also Loki and Sylvie have great chemistry surprisingly, I thought the train scene was going to he awkward but I honestly really enjoyed it
YES! I thought I was the only person that thought it was a DR Who episode - 13 meeting 11 and going on an adventure
I'm kinda shocked at your feelings on this episode. The word "filler" never crossed my mind while watching this episode. I've seen other channels say this is the best so far, and while I don't know if I'd say that, I really enjoyed it, certainly not any less than the other 2. But you guys state multiple times like it's the common consensus, that this was the weakest episode / a filler episode. I mean we're all entitled to our opinions of course, I was just taken back a little after what I thought was a strong episode and character introduction for Sylvie. Regardless, great video, Collings rocks, and I loved the live segment.
Filler is just a buzzword people in fandoms throw around when an episode doesn't go towards what they have decided is the real end point.
I thought it was the weakest actually
@@SaulGMV Filler is much more than that. There are filler episodes in many long series, and filler songs on most albums, but I don't feel many of these short series have filler. In the instance of the these shorter 6-10 episode series, I think you're absolutely right. This episode was fun and probably explains some of the most important parts of the story, and certainly had the most Loki story in a series called Loki.
@@andrewrussell5653 Well actually, so did James & Maso, inspiring my comment in the first place. So... what are you saying here? You're not being contrarian, you're agreeing with what my original comment was surprised at with zero explanation. So you did nothing here. Explain your case, or you've essentially added nothing to this discussion.
It felt like filler to me because at the end of episode 2 they end with everyone at the TVA dropping a duce because "someone bombed the sacred time line". That sounds like a significant development that should have major developments in the next episodes moving forward. Instead the episode has a buddy cop road trip story. The end of the previous episode really is not addressed through the bulk of this episode. Instead of tackling the over arching storyline set up in the previous 2 episodes, this deviates and ATM doesn't feel connected to the established throughline. I personally left episode 2 expecting to see the aftermath of lady loki's actions and it was kind of exciting. Instead it was these two bumbling around for 30 minutes. I'm curious if when we see episode 4 if you'll be able to skip the majority of episode 3 and not be confused or missing anything. If you can skip it, that means it's just filler. I hope that this clears up why they said that it feels like filler. If you liked or loved the episode, great. I'm not trying to take that away from you. But personally it was a disappointment and I felt let down at the end.
always the best editing on youtube
Why does Loki act so surprised at the idea of enchantment when just earlier he was using his staff to mind control people
It had the tesseract in it
@@Generalindifference No, it had the mind stone
The final long take shot at the end was really impressive.
Ayyyy- thanks Collings!
17:37 Never would’ve expected to see anything persona related on this channel but it’s a welcomed surprised
couldn't resist < 3
The moment they both realised they were stranded on this moon my excitement dropped, thought this episode really dragged even though its the shortest yet. I liked the first 2, hoping the next eps pick up the pace a bit
Edit: If Mobius saves the Loki's on a Jet-Ski next episode then the series is 10/10
I had the same theory as Collins. Very interesting show with lots of potential plots.
Everyone freaking out over the bisexual thing, the very next scene he exclaims “I’m hedonistic”. What do you expect?
I love that the entire last action scene was a continuous one shot
You can’t spell Jetski without John Krasinski.
Fantastic Four cameo confirmed.
RAW Collings is the bloody best man!
No you!
(and for real thanks mate, half awake and this is the best)
Theory: the time keepers are or a version of the living tribunal.
It does make sense, there are 3 of them
They're 3 Kang variants
Do you think there’s more to the ‘space Lizards’ line?
It was an enchantment all along!! I like that theory for this episode.
Loki didn't stop the building with the time stone. The scene didn't display time being rewinded. Loki has telekinesis which he definitely showed he had in episode 2. Marvel went out of their way to show you that ability.
So where was Loki's scarlet witch level telekinesis during every fight he's ever been in?
If he moved a pencil across a desk sure but a whole building.. that's a big ask
It was definitely the selective time reversal from the end of Doctor Strange. TK would have pushed it up or out, but not EXACTLY back in its upright position (moving up exactly on the arc it fell on) with all the debris and chunks from the base of the structure formed back into place, FUSED back into the building, and the building immediately restablalized like it never collapsed.
Or he has another stone :)
I really like the bit where Loki sounds sad or disgusted when he realizes the rich people/government of the moon will let the people die which shows he isn't pure evil, with Pompeii it was out of the control of people and was a surprise but here they had time and more resources to help people but just let them die
Doesn't really fit his character imo, he was just murdering people on Earth for fun a week ago. If it was Ragnarok Loki, sure, but not a week post Avengers Loki.
@@majorleaguegains5597 I do somewhat agree that he feels like Ragnarok Loki sometimes even tho this is right after Avengers, but I always thought Ragnarok Loki was basically Loki if he had a bit of an epiphany which kind of happened in the first episode to a slight extent
@@majorleaguegains5597 isn't it implied that Loki was being at least some what influenced by the Staff ?
@@morgansheppard8215 forgot that thanks for reminding
@@morgansheppard8215 could be, can't say for sure. He's always been a little murderous after the first Thor lol
My rampant speculation theory is that Sylvie isn't actually a Loki variant, she's his daughter from another timeline (and her dad is King Loki and like wrecked her entire universe)
Her last name was Laufeydattir
I was thinking this the whole episode.
Can we talk about how depowered loki is in this series. Like he is a frost giant, raised by asgardians and yet he keeps getting his ass handed to him by regular humans. Like the time cops are one thing, they had tech that caught him of guard, but literally just random shoppers in the last episode and the train guards in this one. He should easily be able to take out any number of humans at once.
this was honestly such a good episode
It was the perfect exposition episode wasn't it! 😍
I loved it as well. Feels like the public consensus on this show is always the opposite of mine. I was indifferent to episode 1, but loved this one
Jesus, James got really excited when he saw that clock. I guess sometimes it's the little things that make life worth living
Imagine if we didn’t know what James looked like and we just knew him as a goat man the whole time.
Interesting theory that it's Sylvie creating the illusion. What if it's Loki? He finds out how she controls minds but had reversed it on her to find out what she's really about. The time pad isn't broken, that's just Loki's illusion for her so he can find out what her real intentions are.
Genius
Is Grames the brother Mason doesn’t like?
Nah he's the original founder of InfoGrames
Probably the one he likes, cause he is so thankful to him for filming.
I love how dancing zemo will always make an appearance in these videos 🤣🤣🤣
I’m risking this cliche sh*t HOPING the show doesn’t go this way: Owen’s character is Sylvie’s lost love.
Let’s F*CKING HOPE THIS ISN’T THE ROAD THEY’RE TAKINGGGG
God damnit. I can totally see that....
Since Sylvie's a fan of hiding in apocalypses, I thought the Postman might be a cheeky reference to the post-apocalyptic Postman books/movie with Kevin Costner.
We'll see them together on a jetski.
Nah, it'll be the dude from the TVA that had the drawer full of stones.
Man. I feel like that's it now
Ah validation it did feel classic Dr Who especially the mid 70's Doctor and Leela
Spoiler for the lego leak
It's throg
LETS GOOOO
Loki reversing the falling building suggests either he's being tricked by Sylvie, or he's pocketed a Time Stone from the drawer full of Infinity Stones - can't wait for the next episode!
I don't know. As a god of chaos and such, reversing entropy sounds within his wheelhouse
Maybe Sylvie doesn’t like Loki or being called Loki because Loki was her love and the tva took him from her so she starts this campaign against them
Next episode starts Owen going "Wow" just surprised as they go over saving those wild and crazy Lokis 💯
The actor for Sylvie should have been the Doctor.
Agreed
Any other female actress in England should have been the doctor. Joe Martins Doctor should have been the Doctor.
Still though, the main problem is Chibnall's writing. The main cast isn't horrible but most of them have nothing to do.
@@awesomedavid2012 I agree as well, Chibnall is 80% to blame.
I'm really not enjoying Sylvie's acting in this. Hoping she grows on me but I'm not a huge fan of the casting so far
This was my favourite episode so far. I find it in no way disappointing. And yes I do like Doctor Who, or at least I did.
Does anyone else think that the "meteor" storms were VERY convenient? All of a sudden they can walk across swaths of wasteland without a single meteor falling?
I liked when they came back just as our heroes were butting to the front of the line to get on board the Ark.
Mason: I don’t think Loki has the ability to move stuff with mind
Collings: On screen now you’ll see several examples of Loki moving things with his mind.