These guys are getting killed. Exiting is one thing, but this is a step way too far. Confidence breeds ignorance. They are on their high horse now but they slipped up somewhere too.
Wanna know who can delete you, get caught yet walk free, or even admit they did it in 60 years later, and nobody will even bother try to arrest one of them. The C.I.A.
@@tfwmemedumpster Why? They can't exactly go to the police ;-) (OK, some may be part of a government) It would be funny if it was a CIA op for financing themselves.
Claiming a "hack" is pretty standard in exit scams to sow confusion and doubt while they cut and run, but the lengths they went to are truly insane. My speculation is that, with this level of effort, they set up a fall guy.
viewing the development in the Ai and esp "aware" models, i'm sure in short-term some Ai model will represent a mafia boss person, which no one could distinguish from human (r/ai_tests) and impossible to find and esp no way to destroy
Maybe dumb of me to ask, but... Who trusts that they will actually purge seller's info once they pay? "We lied about encryption and we have gathered all the info about you. Pay us and we will definitely not leak it to the cops" like what??????
Nobody should trust them, and nobody should pay them, it's a grave mistake to do so, for one the 'data' is useless. If you could be indicted for an address MOST people would be incarcerated atm.
It was dope to see my thumbnail in your video! I seriously thought that our niche was to small to pull the numbers you do, you proved that to be wrong. 😊 Thanks for encouraging situational awareness for the community. NOBODY should pay these people, as LE (In the US) can do f*^k all to the buyers. Yes, cartels use the darknet. I did business with a few of them personally. It's 'controlled delivery' not 'controlled buy', they are different things. Someone on the DN having your address is NOT an indictable offense. I could literally order drugs to your house now in that case, and then get you a bid.
holy shit you were on jack rhysiders podcast! i was literally thinking about your post office shipping strategy when he was talking about how law enforcement could use the data incognito was threatening to leak
Doing stuff that involves these markets is always a gamble. People just trust they are not the one to be scammed, but by now, everyone knows the market is going to go down eventually. Always just a matter of time.
Monero is being black marbled by an attacker increasing its daily txns from 25-30k/day to over 200k/day, reducing its anonymity and lowering its inherent utility and price. The creators want to increase transaction fees which will likely cause a devaluation cycle over the next months. *~*~*the more you know*~*~*
Thing is, in anarchocapitalism there is a greater amount of transparency due to economic agents operating in an open market. So yes, this resembles that somewhat, but at the same time there is a lot of subterfuge involved so not really.
@@AndalusianLuis It is not open in the sense that Law Enforcement does not allow for it to exist publicly. The need for obscurity causes information and competition to be less available than in a standard market, so buyers are more susceptible to scams due to the constrain of alternatives. In theory anarchocapitalism society works entirely via voluntary agreements, so yes the buyer is subjected to the provider, but it is far more likely for them to switch to another competitor upon disagreements, thus having more bargaining power. This does not mean that anarchocapitalism is viable or desirable in practice. No ancap society has existed so you can only entertain it via thought experiments and the proxy of classical liberalism.
@@waterbloom1213 it does exist publicly though. Again, anyone can join it. Also yes They can switch to other providers here too lol. I don’t think you’re thinking this through.
@@thatguy1729 the facts that you don't know whether it's his real IP suggests that it's probably not. And an IP only gives you a general geographical area and a service provider. Without more info, it's a nothing burger. You'd at least need a name to do some social engineering for more.
@@theKashConnoisseurYou can also just pay someone at that telecom company to search up his address. And if organized crime is involved, then they'll get that address.
@@bipolarkeyboard good luck trying to promise a customer service operator large amounts of money in exchange for customer info while you're on a recorded line, lmao. Don't you think that would be a little... obvious? Wouldn't take the cops long at all to pick you up.
Imagine, lol, we practially just allow scammers to scam us out of hundreds of billions a year, ruining lives utterly, but they want to put people in a cage for a consentual transaction between 2 adults or for wanting to ingest something into their own bodies. Insanity. But then, how would LE justify their massively bloated budgets when crime is at a 50 year low?
Every normal person, that is someone who isn't involved with drugs, will have more sympathy for the scammers than the vendors and the users. But with the way that's changing, how everyone is doing them these days, who knows? Maybe you'll get what you want.
@gatonegro187 Exactly, this information can't be used in a conviction in a meaningful way. Lawyers can argue quite easily it's all fake data to extort their clients.
Silver lining to this is that people will (hopefully) do their own encryption. Boggles my mind that people would trust a website run by criminals to do their encryption for them
Pretty sure with Alphabay and possibly others, the auto encrypt feature was compromised after law enforcement took control, so if people didnt learn after that, they wont learn here either. Plus its not like the vendors could stop their buyers from using the feature either, and same with any messages sent to that vendor. It probably doesnt tell you whether it was "automatically" encrypted so they wouldnt even know.
Thank you Mental Outlaw. You're the reason I'm still changing on to the deep Web loop. Never would've known about this otherwise. Also I'm very glad that figuring out how to PGP encrypt on your own is relatively easy ☺️
Yup pgp is super easy. I don’t trust those sites that have pgp messaging built in because they have the staff pgp pub key built in so they can see the messages too. It’s best to just use the pgp key encryption for the pub key of the vendor only (not the market).
No. It could be real. You can construct a locally valid tx that is for some reason not broadcasted properly. Bitcoin core will still locally store the transaction
I really appreciate these posts. Security is important. Don't trust anybody without verification/qualifications. This video keeps me current in current scams. Please watch. So many details you need to be aware of. Might as well go underground when buying stuff off dark web site. Yes they want you money but mot by selling you stuff but by extortion. One suggestion was to keep another laptop/computer air-gapped from your main device.
@@gatonegro187 can't find a single source backing your claim. WHM announced closure and allowed vendors and buyers to clear accounts prior, it's the diametric opposite of an exit scam.
Where is bohemia it disappeared from dread forums and no one talks about it and the same guy hugbunter is admin of both. Yet somehow he is seen as a hero for not taking a bribe from other bad guys. 🤔
pharoah got arrested news broke ~ 8 hours ago. i would love to think hubris caught up to him for trying to extort his vendors and they didn't like that. maybe it would have went different if he just left silently and didnt try to double down and do some extortion
They kidnap specialist to set up their comm systems in Mexico, not a far stretch to assume they don't also do the same to IT specialists or sending their kids to good schools to end up working for them doing the high end stuff @@MrCmon113
The moment everything isn't exactly perfect in one of these things, you don't do them. That goes for all personal and extralegal deals. Trust is everything. And the slightest hiccup should be enough of a warning to get out and find someone else.
They might be lying and the messages were actually encrypted and were automatically deleted, this is just a money grab. Think about it, their reputation is already lost, might as well scam one more time. No need to release anything to the authorities, it's actually a lot of extra work. If I were them I wouldn't bother.
shit that's pretty wild. gonna be a pretty rough opsec lesson for a lot of people. If those site admins get doxd they're done for. WHM did i think the most graceful exit from the scene - didn't get busted by L.E and posted a warning up ahead of site closure giving people the opportunity to clean house and withdraw.
@@mountaink2zYeah keeping all that data would be super risky on Pharoah's side in case LE ever got a hold of the servers. It always felt like auto-deleting things was a way for him to cover his ass too
I’m very interested in hidden market places but firstly I have no need or desire for anything illegal plus how do you keep up to date of what is legit or already exit scammed?
do they really think it's a good idea to upset multiple people who are scary and probably have scary connections? Yikes. Even if you think you're "safe", it takes only one small slip up to find yourself taking the room temperature challenge unwillingly at the end of someone's weapon.
@@sleep3417No this is criminials we are talking about and def cartel and stuff they want blood getting it is gonna be tricky if the if the scammers play there cards right
Whats the possibility they actually stored the information anyways? What is the police supposed to do, search every house on the list? Most got a warning to hide their stuff anyways!!
Any market that makes you use a site wallet is bound to exit scam eventually. Also, anyone who doesn't self-encrypt their information deserves to get busted lmfao
They already probably made so much money cuz any successful place makes hundreds of millions so i dont see why they’re harming people like this for no reason its just going to bring unnecessary heat cuz its illegal to extort anywhere
They don't make hundreds of millions, only a few million. Let's do some math. Let's assume that the average order is $100. Now Incognito mentioned that they had 557k orders. They charge 2% fees on order. That 1.14m dollars. Let's also assume that they were online for 100 weeks and had a linear amount of orders through (just to make the math easy.) If the average order stays in escrow for 2 weeks before being cashed out, then that means 2/100th of the all time 557k orders were in escrow at the time of exit scam. Or 11140 orders, meaning the exit scam netted them 1,114,000. Plus some people falling for the exit scam late and whatnot. In conclusion Incognito probably made over half their money from the exit scam, for a total of ~$2.25M based on $100 per order. Once/if they release the dox the math would be much easier to calculate, if the average order is $200, then they probably made $4.5M, the average order is $500, they probably made $6.25M. But I doubt the average order is much more then $100, most people just order for personal use.
@@TerzoCapro it’s not even about that lmfao, if I was a drug dealer who made bank and I just got busted and I posted on let’s say my Snapchat story that anyone who’s ever done business with me will be ratted on in order to help me get a lighter sentence unless they pay me to not say anything, am I the asshole or is it your fault for using me as a plug? Think about it. It’s bs anyway you slice it and a ton of people are trying to dox him so if that happens that would be one for the history books. I don’t really care cause I’m not affected by it, I dont shop on marketplaces I just occasionally like to browse dread every once in a while. I’m afraid to ever make a purchase cause I feel like so much can go wrong.
a bit different than silkroad as the owners of incognito have some serious pull to the point of buying Darknetlive in order to keep the info about them exit scamming out of the sight of users even claiming that HugBunter the creator of dread was running a smear campaign on them. its closer to what alpha bay / worldmarket did than silkroad.
@@funkymonkey7202That’s a big RICO case my man.Bro what do you think the feds would like to get ? A couple of small niche dealers or a giant RICO indictments
@@seansingh4421Not small niche dealers some of them were huge for sure and some cartel but you right they would probably try to also go after them as well
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We should stop trivializing pinky promises
It used to mean that you cut off your pinky
@@fredred8371if thats what pinky promises are, im only trusting dick promises from now on
@@fredred8371yeah. I remember when I was a kid. A pinky promise meant nothing, no kid was ever ruthless enough to requisition their pinky promise
@fredred8371 nah, it used to mean you'd swallow a thousand needles. Starting to sound like an appealing change over anonymous lack of repercussions.
@@fredred8371 Imagine having a prosthetic pinky.
No facecam this video, I guess his deepfake is being updated
What the hell 😭
Cool robot
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Training
It’s in training. He had to remove it since Gemini AI accidentally made him a Transgender Native American Indian with Chinese heritage clothing.
These guys are getting killed. Exiting is one thing, but this is a step way too far. Confidence breeds ignorance. They are on their high horse now but they slipped up somewhere too.
Out of all the people to try and extort criminal gangs have to be one of the stupidest choice you can make.
Wanna know who can delete you, get caught yet walk free, or even admit they did it in 60 years later, and nobody will even bother try to arrest one of them. The C.I.A.
@@tfwmemedumpster Why? They can't exactly go to the police ;-) (OK, some may be part of a government)
It would be funny if it was a CIA op for financing themselves.
Yeah the russian will have a private word with them. U dont threaten to rat on these guys
@@hbt739 The word is "Honorable"
and they are not.
The vendors should put together a shared monero pool for the person able to successfully dox Pharaoh
And then keep it for themselves after the dox, right? KEKW
@@j.r.8176i doubt they would. they'd want a clear example made of what can and will happen. Coming through with the bounty would be advantageous.
You just invented gofundme but with exit scam opportunity
Bro is going to be the star of Funky Town 2 when the dox drops since the cartels on the site are probably pissed.
@@SamTheEnglishTeacherGoFundMes are actually exit scams pretty often already 🤣
when owners start with this bs, you know that things aren't right...
I'm still waiting for my bloody Plutus withdrawals from 2022. Such a shitshow.
Can't say whether the admins need to be more concerned about the glowie feds, or the spooky cartel mobsters lol
The balls they have is almost respectable while also insanely short-sighted
Nah, the cartels are busy mourning the loss of Akira Toriyama. (Too soon?)
The government has statute of limitations. The cartel does not.
@@GrumpyIan you may be in the old folks home and they still will get you
@@RockyPixel mexican GDP in shambles
you mean criminals aren't trustworthy...?
Look at market history, 90% of them exit scammed.
If Google could do it with a daughter company and get away with it they would.
If you could do it and get away with it, wouldn't you?
whoa, steady on now pal, thems fighting words
@@kevinkramer4310 its wrong.
@@kevinkramer4310 nope. I am honest to a fault.
"Yes, this is an extortion" ecks dee
Mate I'm fucked I didn't encrypt shit
@@Peppaq lol
@@PeppaqIf you just bought stuff, ignore it.
@@MrCmon113 yeah only £20 worth no stress
@@Peppaqnow you learn to ALWAYS encrypt????
There’s just no way Jayson Tatum can do all these uploads, farm, and be an NBA all star
And release new music albums
😂😂😂😂 yeah no way
And carry the Boston Celtics all by himself
EVERYONE IS A POSSIBLE FED, STAY SAFE.
Lol I knew I wasn't the only one that thinks he looks like 'em lol
thank god hugbunter had integrity
Ye, it's strange to see since he has nothing to gain over it.
@@yosutzuhruoj Which honestly makes their claims of a smear campaign even more laughable.
hugbunter exit scammed his own market wtf is he still doing there?!
@@gatonegro187 no
“No less than 5 beheadings” is a hell of a line to say about anything
Claiming a "hack" is pretty standard in exit scams to sow confusion and doubt while they cut and run, but the lengths they went to are truly insane. My speculation is that, with this level of effort, they set up a fall guy.
Whoever pulled this either has balls of steel or is full on insane
its a fine line
They're basically saying I'm undoxable come try me to people who know everything about opsec
viewing the development in the Ai and esp "aware" models, i'm sure in short-term some Ai model will represent a mafia boss person, which no one could distinguish from human (r/ai_tests) and impossible to find and esp no way to destroy
Could just be state sponsored
exactly. I reckon they're just state sponsored@@ChamplooMusashi
Maybe dumb of me to ask, but... Who trusts that they will actually purge seller's info once they pay? "We lied about encryption and we have gathered all the info about you. Pay us and we will definitely not leak it to the cops" like what??????
well, they are 100% releasing it if you _don't_ give them money
@nicolopez2181 sucks to suck then. They should've encrypted their info themselves and they wouldn't have this problem lmfao
@@grizchicagoYeah... Fuck Incognito but anyone relying on a DNMs auto-encryption weren't covering their tracks enough.
@@nicolopez2181
Sounds like Mossad tactics
Nobody should trust them, and nobody should pay them, it's a grave mistake to do so, for one the 'data' is useless. If you could be indicted for an address MOST people would be incarcerated atm.
There is no trust between thieves
It's honor
@@SouthPeter98 the fun killer, found it! You couldn't let it slide could you?
Wow, can you come to mother's bible recital this sunday? Such wise words.
There's more honor among thieves than there is among the ruling class
a lot of the people involved are drug dealers not thieves. just the site doing the thieving.
It was dope to see my thumbnail in your video! I seriously thought that our niche was to small to pull the numbers you do, you proved that to be wrong. 😊
Thanks for encouraging situational awareness for the community. NOBODY should pay these people, as LE (In the US) can do f*^k all to the buyers.
Yes, cartels use the darknet.
I did business with a few of them personally.
It's 'controlled delivery' not 'controlled buy', they are different things.
Someone on the DN having your address is NOT an indictable offense.
I could literally order drugs to your house now in that case, and then get you a bid.
holy shit you were on jack rhysiders podcast! i was literally thinking about your post office shipping strategy when he was talking about how law enforcement could use the data incognito was threatening to leak
800 comments and 125k views in 4 days, crazy
You probably know more than me but why would you admit your dealings?
Ironically, I can see a lot of folks being discouraged from future illegal activity as a result of this.
It happens one gets shutdown another one pops up a week later, that’s just the game
Doing stuff that involves these markets is always a gamble. People just trust they are not the one to be scammed, but by now, everyone knows the market is going to go down eventually. Always just a matter of time.
@@Kaiyats Never mind a week later. There are many markets currently open for business.
Most of the better markets do not have a shared deposit address anymore. A single address is created per each transaction.
@@Kaiyatsyeah, likely with the same people behind it too :D
I literally can't believe he actually said "pinky promise".
and i can't believe there was someone who believed them with their pinky promise (6:05)
Right? Is nothing sacred
Exit scamming is one thing, but blackmailing too??? That's low
You expect criminals to have morals? lol
@@HydraCFW scamming people is wrong, even if you're a criminal lol
@@jonahbranch5625😂
what crimes did they committed at first place?@@HydraCFW
@@HydraCFW Morality and law are not the same thing.
If they are not using monero, it’s a honey trap.
y
Not true, most used currency for crime is generally tether USDT, monero is overhyped
Overhyped, aka the only anonymous cryptocurrency?
@@ohokcool You are wrong.
Monero is being black marbled by an attacker increasing its daily txns from 25-30k/day to over 200k/day, reducing its anonymity and lowering its inherent utility and price. The creators want to increase transaction fees which will likely cause a devaluation cycle over the next months. *~*~*the more you know*~*~*
The dark web is literally an example of what anarcho capitalism would look like.
Since there is no laws, you are at the mercy of the service provider.
Thing is, in anarchocapitalism there is a greater amount of transparency due to economic agents operating in an open market.
So yes, this resembles that somewhat, but at the same time there is a lot of subterfuge involved so not really.
@@waterbloom1213how is this not an open market? Anyone can join it as long as they know how to find it
you need to study sociology better, there's laws, unwritten ones and very clever techniques.
@@AndalusianLuis
It is not open in the sense that Law Enforcement does not allow for it to exist publicly. The need for obscurity causes information and competition to be less available than in a standard market, so buyers are more susceptible to scams due to the constrain of alternatives.
In theory anarchocapitalism society works entirely via voluntary agreements, so yes the buyer is subjected to the provider, but it is far more likely for them to switch to another competitor upon disagreements, thus having more bargaining power.
This does not mean that anarchocapitalism is viable or desirable in practice. No ancap society has existed so you can only entertain it via thought experiments and the proxy of classical liberalism.
@@waterbloom1213 it does exist publicly though. Again, anyone can join it. Also yes They can switch to other providers here too lol. I don’t think you’re thinking this through.
I don't get how criminals have not yet figured out that you can't trust criminals.
I was thinking the same thing right before you brought up who is the likely vendors. This people are ballsy.
they gonna eff around and get one of those colombian neckties.
Don't tell me it's the thing that was put in a movie around brad pitt's character neck , these exist ?
@@Anon20855yes, colombian necktie is a real thing. Just google it
@@Anon20855Buddy you’re wayyy far off. Colombian neckties are way worse and they’re a type of message job.
@@Anon20855it’s slang for be head ing
@@Anon20855 it's a really fancy ceremony and everyone comes to watch them get it
So, they chosen to rebrand themselves into a LiveLeak content creators
?
@@itsawill9268it’s a joke saying the owners are going to get themselves killed from all the burnt vendors
Oh snap.
Very kosher tactics they are using.
antisemetic ugh
jews
@@groyperape kek
oy
Strategically tiny hat indeed , good sir 🧐
The admins of this market better have good opsec, because they definitely will get killed over this if they don't.
Pharos ip was leaked pretty quickly. Dunno if it was actually correct.
@@thatguy1729 the facts that you don't know whether it's his real IP suggests that it's probably not. And an IP only gives you a general geographical area and a service provider. Without more info, it's a nothing burger. You'd at least need a name to do some social engineering for more.
@@theKashConnoisseurYou can also just pay someone at that telecom company to search up his address. And if organized crime is involved, then they'll get that address.
@@theKashConnoisseur money talks, it wouldn't take long to get a contact at the ISP.
@@bipolarkeyboard good luck trying to promise a customer service operator large amounts of money in exchange for customer info while you're on a recorded line, lmao. Don't you think that would be a little... obvious? Wouldn't take the cops long at all to pick you up.
Imagine drugs being legal and the feds going after scammers instead. That would be a nice world.
Imagine being stabbed by meth addicts.
maybe one day, hopefully before I'm dead.
*ERAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHHHHH IT'S RUNNING THROUGH MY VEINS GRAAAAH*
*I'M SO GLAD THEY LEGALIZED EVERYTHING RAAAAGH* * Breaks car window *
Imagine, lol, we practially just allow scammers to scam us out of hundreds of billions a year, ruining lives utterly, but they want to put people in a cage for a consentual transaction between 2 adults or for wanting to ingest something into their own bodies. Insanity. But then, how would LE justify their massively bloated budgets when crime is at a 50 year low?
Every normal person, that is someone who isn't involved with drugs, will have more sympathy for the scammers than the vendors and the users.
But with the way that's changing, how everyone is doing them these days, who knows? Maybe you'll get what you want.
They're gonna take the money and still publish the names. Bet.
I dont know why publish names because theres nothing anyone can do with them
@@gatonegro187law enforcement can arrest, rival gangs can pursue. Plenty of people can use that info
@gatonegro187 Exactly, this information can't be used in a conviction in a meaningful way. Lawyers can argue quite easily it's all fake data to extort their clients.
Police have very strict standards for evidence and it likely won’t be a factor.bet.
If they're smart they nuked any data they had to begin with and are just bluffing to pocket more money
thats some heavy shit. these scammers are gonna have to watch their backs for the rest of their lives.
Silver lining to this is that people will (hopefully) do their own encryption. Boggles my mind that people would trust a website run by criminals to do their encryption for them
Pretty sure with Alphabay and possibly others, the auto encrypt feature was compromised after law enforcement took control, so if people didnt learn after that, they wont learn here either. Plus its not like the vendors could stop their buyers from using the feature either, and same with any messages sent to that vendor. It probably doesnt tell you whether it was "automatically" encrypted so they wouldnt even know.
That thumbnail is some "Darknet Diaries" heavily inspired artwork
Made me click it ... But it's a good vid
that would be because it’s the same guy who does jack rhysider’s thumbnails lol. he commented on this video
@@jackmitchell951I thought Jack did his own thumbnails
Imagine getting extorted by someone who says "y'all".
twitter artist spotted
Hey, don't talk down to our African-American friends like that. They can extort just like the rest of us!
That's actually a very good way to minimize the places the man could potentially live if it isn't a bluff
This is going to be one hell of Darknet Diaries one day.
Thank you Mental Outlaw. You're the reason I'm still changing on to the deep Web loop. Never would've known about this otherwise. Also I'm very glad that figuring out how to PGP encrypt on your own is relatively easy ☺️
Yup pgp is super easy. I don’t trust those sites that have pgp messaging built in because they have the staff pgp pub key built in so they can see the messages too. It’s best to just use the pgp key encryption for the pub key of the vendor only (not the market).
The fake transaction ID was enough to prove malice. They put the effort in to give people the wrong impression.
No. It could be real. You can construct a locally valid tx that is for some reason not broadcasted properly. Bitcoin core will still locally store the transaction
I really appreciate these posts. Security is important. Don't trust anybody without verification/qualifications. This video keeps me current in current scams.
Please watch. So many details you need to be aware of. Might as well go underground when buying stuff off dark web site. Yes they want you money but mot by selling you stuff but by extortion. One suggestion was to keep another laptop/computer air-gapped from your main device.
Oh neat, these people definitely aren't going to end up in a trunk.
"Customers stunned as owners market aimed at criminals commits crime"
They could have called it blackmail, but chose extorsion because the x makes it sound cool. I like that.
Crazy, I see this video pop up on my feed today and then start searching Reddit for more info, only to find out Pharaoh was arrested yesterday.
Wonder if theres a reward for both his hands
Hugbunter the real MVP 🔥
thats an amazing username forreal tho
hugbunter exit scammed his own market real mvp
@@gatonegro187 cope npc
@@gatonegro187 can't find a single source backing your claim. WHM announced closure and allowed vendors and buyers to clear accounts prior, it's the diametric opposite of an exit scam.
Where is bohemia it disappeared from dread forums and no one talks about it and the same guy hugbunter is admin of both. Yet somehow he is seen as a hero for not taking a bribe from other bad guys. 🤔
pharoah got arrested news broke ~ 8 hours ago. i would love to think hubris caught up to him for trying to extort his vendors and they didn't like that. maybe it would have went different if he just left silently and didnt try to double down and do some extortion
Don't trust Pharaoh, trust Kleopatra.
hahaaaaa i get it
Underrated comment
My man
mental. Can you cover the new breach forums?
why
@@IIlIlIlIlIlIlIII why not?
Good idea
@@glaxglax4438 atleast someone agrees
I bet there is a small number of devs who have performed a large number of these exit scams. They must be rolling in monero
The actual cartel boss who had been through 5 beheadings be like: So you have chosen...death!
I don't know a single instance of "mafia" people doing anything on the dark web, let alone having good IT skills.
@@MrCmon113 you'd be really surprised, don't underestimate actual mafia
They kidnap specialist to set up their comm systems in Mexico, not a far stretch to assume they don't also do the same to IT specialists or sending their kids to good schools to end up working for them doing the high end stuff @@MrCmon113
Damn he survived 5 beheadings? I’d be scared too
Mr outlaw will you please autograph my linux distro
Is it arch btw?
@@calligraphysthetiche installed gentoo
This is just a natural part of a darkweb market life cycle.
the way you say withdrawals makes me smile every time
Now say "drawers"
The moment everything isn't exactly perfect in one of these things, you don't do them. That goes for all personal and extralegal deals. Trust is everything. And the slightest hiccup should be enough of a warning to get out and find someone else.
It's definitely an interesting power move to try and blackmail the types of people who be level 5 vendors.
... I'm sure this will work out great.
yah, level 5 vendors have computer experts on standby who can trace these guys but dont know how to make a website to sell the shit
After all that bs, do you even trust them to remove your info if you payed them?
They might be lying and the messages were actually encrypted and were automatically deleted, this is just a money grab.
Think about it, their reputation is already lost, might as well scam one more time. No need to release anything to the authorities, it's actually a lot of extra work. If I were them I wouldn't bother.
@@25566 yeah, I considered that as well. They very well may not that shit but yeah, why not take a stab at extorting a even more money, nothin lose.
shit that's pretty wild. gonna be a pretty rough opsec lesson for a lot of people. If those site admins get doxd they're done for.
WHM did i think the most graceful exit from the scene - didn't get busted by L.E and posted a warning up ahead of site closure giving people the opportunity to clean house and withdraw.
Cannazone too did that
had to stop after the third "withdraral" just couldn't handle the discrimination. Give w's a second chance. Not just one.
Hahahaha same
Good thing their timing didn't have anything to do with ATH.
it’s so over
how did i get so into this lol
IF YOU WERE INVOLVED IN THIS: DO NOT PAY RANSOM! EVER! THEY ROBBED YOU ONCE ALREADY DO NOT GIVE THEM MORE MONEY!!!
this dark market doing this will only make it more difficult for other sales markets. no honor at all.
Nah not really. This is relatively common. Newer markets are doing things to make this much less of a problem.
@@thatguy1729is dread a good place to get news on things like thos? Total noob question
ty i acually stumble on smt like this in dread the other day and wonder what it was
Craziest pronunciation of "withdrawals" ever
“That’s a bold move Cotton, let’s see if it works out for them”
This guy must be smoking some vendor products to think he has a chance of surviving this. You cross 1 drug dealer that's one thing, cross hundreds??!
If they're vendors are hooked on their own supply he might have a fucking chance
Lot of these drug dealers are small fish hence why they sell on the dark Web instead of local clientele
and now the person behind incognito got arrested in new york earlier today
He's gotta have a big bag on his head
he's cooked
Whenever bitcoin spikes, exit scams start.
That’s what I told my boy, your vendor is balling rn 😂
I noticed the same thing lmao
they cant be serious right ? Going after vendors seems like such a bad idea lord....
No honor amongst thieves.
They must be sitting comfortably behind at least 7 proxies.
I wonder if they are stupid enough to actually hand it over to law enforcement.
I doubt it, most likely just bluffing to get money from paranoid vendors/buyers
Its an address book. Think about it
Thanks for this video, I enjoyed seeing a recap of all the Dread drama.
who would trust them to actually delete the data if you pay them off
Who would trust them that they actually stored the data in the first place?
They could easily be lying about it just to make a final buck.
@@mountaink2zYeah keeping all that data would be super risky on Pharoah's side in case LE ever got a hold of the servers. It always felt like auto-deleting things was a way for him to cover his ass too
Crypto in theory: There is no central authority!!!
Crypto in practice: That authority is just somebody else.
Feelin pretty good about always using pgp rn
If they ever find the site owners, I hope they pick a better song than FunkyTown for the upcoming video.
God i love the chaos of the deep web
😂
I’m very interested in hidden market places but firstly I have no need or desire for anything illegal plus how do you keep up to date of what is legit or already exit scammed?
Use dread.
do they really think it's a good idea to upset multiple people who are scary and probably have scary connections? Yikes.
Even if you think you're "safe", it takes only one small slip up to find yourself taking the room temperature challenge unwillingly at the end of someone's weapon.
They have a lot of money all they have to do is change identities and go to a new country and retire.
I don't doubt many would want to get rid of them, but again, they'd need to find them first.
@@sleep3417No this is criminials we are talking about and def cartel and stuff they want blood getting it is gonna be tricky if the if the scammers play there cards right
Whats the possibility they actually stored the information anyways?
What is the police supposed to do, search every house on the list? Most got a warning to hide their stuff anyways!!
Police can't really act on extorted data. Who's to say it's not just made up to get more money.
ah, how much we now all miss White House Market
Alpha Bay*
ok boomer
could you point me to the tool used to make that list of markets at 00:10? please.
Lucid chart or microsoft visio, most likely
Any market that makes you use a site wallet is bound to exit scam eventually. Also, anyone who doesn't self-encrypt their information deserves to get busted lmfao
It's very shocking anonymous criminals steal money. Who would have thought. If you can trust criminals, who can you trust?
“There is no honor among thieves” - Jeffrey Archer
the vendors weren't thieves
Many organized crime groups have more honor than politicians, though.
"Right?" - Sterling Archer
with the current price of BTC they must have made a literal FORTUNE. Pharoah must be pretty confident
They already probably made so much money cuz any successful place makes hundreds of millions so i dont see why they’re harming people like this for no reason its just going to bring unnecessary heat cuz its illegal to extort anywhere
Can't believe they'd break the law
Uh oh, they broke the law 😡
They don't make hundreds of millions, only a few million. Let's do some math. Let's assume that the average order is $100. Now Incognito mentioned that they had 557k orders. They charge 2% fees on order. That 1.14m dollars. Let's also assume that they were online for 100 weeks and had a linear amount of orders through (just to make the math easy.) If the average order stays in escrow for 2 weeks before being cashed out, then that means 2/100th of the all time 557k orders were in escrow at the time of exit scam. Or 11140 orders, meaning the exit scam netted them 1,114,000. Plus some people falling for the exit scam late and whatnot.
In conclusion Incognito probably made over half their money from the exit scam, for a total of ~$2.25M based on $100 per order. Once/if they release the dox the math would be much easier to calculate, if the average order is $200, then they probably made $4.5M, the average order is $500, they probably made $6.25M. But I doubt the average order is much more then $100, most people just order for personal use.
@@TerzoCapro it’s not even about that lmfao, if I was a drug dealer who made bank and I just got busted and I posted on let’s say my Snapchat story that anyone who’s ever done business with me will be ratted on in order to help me get a lighter sentence unless they pay me to not say anything, am I the asshole or is it your fault for using me as a plug? Think about it. It’s bs anyway you slice it and a ton of people are trying to dox him so if that happens that would be one for the history books. I don’t really care cause I’m not affected by it, I dont shop on marketplaces I just occasionally like to browse dread every once in a while. I’m afraid to ever make a purchase cause I feel like so much can go wrong.
Money loves more money but even tho extortion is illegal any country would be licking their lips for level 5 vendors
Love your videos man. I’m busy with life/work and can’t keep up with tech news. Keep it up 👍
Best one (exit scam) was Bohemia so far
Update: no it evidently wasn't
wait when did bohemia exit scam?
yes and the admin hugbunter is the one exposing this new scam
@@Enzo187a month ago or around that time
@@gatonegro187 lol admin? He runs/owns Dread
A smart contract can automate escrow transactions.
I smell another silk road....
didnt you run a pay 2 win minecraft server
lol what if anything id compare that to a.b, or worldmarket
a bit different than silkroad as the owners of incognito have some serious pull to the point of buying Darknetlive in order to keep the info about them exit scamming out of the sight of users even claiming that HugBunter the creator of dread was running a smear campaign on them. its closer to what alpha bay / worldmarket did than silkroad.
There are at least two other large markets I know of
hey wait it's that person who advertised gambling to kids and scammed them
I feel like the "bitcoin server going down" just days after BTC hit an all-time high is a pretty damn good indicator lol
Sad Bohemia also went down. I lost some money due to the exit scam :(
So many markets pulling out recently
Is part of this thumbnail from Jack Rhysiders Darknet Diaries?
I can't find any of this while in incognito mode! What's the URL for the site?
lol, lmao even
Stop wile you're ahead brother.
Gotta enjoy onions first.
"Greetings Citizen,
Your computer has been encrypted. HAHA sorry"
LMFAO
Its a bluff. No LE would let a big platform operators off in exchange for a few misdemeanors and couple of felonies arrests
They can dump info and leave themselves all they did was build the market
@@funkymonkey7202That’s a big RICO case my man.Bro what do you think the feds would like to get ? A couple of small niche dealers or a giant RICO indictments
@@seansingh4421Not small niche dealers some of them were huge for sure and some cartel but you right they would probably try to also go after them as well
Escrow sounds a lot like escroc in french which means scammer 😂
No honor between thieves anymore!
8:00-10:00 *wildddd*
Purging records is also probably a scam lol
How long till some vendor pays some hackers to find info on the site owner and have them....handled.