small note for rings Blackstone Ring Binds when picked up Unique Finger +6 Stamina Item level 54 Requires Level 49 Equip: +20 Attack Power. Equip: Improves your chance to hit by 1%.
dude this video was the first from your channel but i will be watching more! great wow content. i especially like the fonts that you used during editing and the items are zoomed in so i can read the stats.
As a dagger rogue you would much rather have +5 Weapon damage on your main hand than Crusader. Your offhand can be crusader / +15 agi. Also it's better to go for a faster offhand for poison procs.
Thanks for the great video, very informative.. some minor things tho; for shoulders it is worth throwing some +5 frost resist or +5 all resist from Argent Dawn also +15 agi wont be out till P2
L33T GUILDS: Best guild on server: YOU MAY NOT ENTER MY GUILD UNLESS YOU HAVE PRE-RAID BiS Casual Rogue player: *A month later - Gets it* Best guild on server: YOUR GEAR IS NOT PRE-RAID BiS?! Did you not know the game WAS UPDATED A WEEK AGO, NEW DUNGEONS ARE OPEN, REPLACE THOSE SHOULDERS, FEET AND NECK YOU NOOB. Casual Rogue player: *3 weeks later - gets* Best guild on server: YES YOU DO HAVE PRE-RAID BiS BUT WE NO LONGER NEED ROGUES, WE ARE FULL, ASK ME IN A MONTHS TIME Casual Rogue player: *Asks in a months time* Best guild on server: OH YOU SHOULD OF ASKED ME LAST WEEK, WE HAD A SPOT FOR A ROGUE BUT ITS BEEN TAKEN Casual Rogue player: *But you told me to ask in a months time?!* Best guild on server: DID I?! I FOR ONE DO NOT RECALL Casual Rogue player: *Okay fuck this i will apply to the 2nd best guild on the server QQ* 2ND Best guild on server: OH YOU HAVE PRE-RAID BiS, hmmm okay welcome to the guild BUT BE AWARE YOU WILL NOT BE FIRST CHOICE FOR THE RAIDS, OUR BETTER PLAYERS WILL PLAY BEFORE YOU AND IF THEY CAN NOT MAKE THE RAID OR LEAVE HALF WAY IN THEN YOU CAN PLAY. Casual Rogue player: *Urm, okay* Casual Rogue player: *''8 RAIDS LATER AND FINALLY GETS THE CHANCE TO RAID'' - YESSS!!* 2ND Best guild on server: WHAT IS THIS SHIT? WHY ARE YOU COMING INTO THE RAID WITH NO CONSUMABLES?! AND IS THAT A PVP SPEC? WHY DO YOU HAVE COLD BLOOOD!??!?! Casual Rogue player: *UUURRRMMM...uhmm....* 2ND Best guild on server: GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY RAID!! NEXT TIME BRING CONSUMABLES AND PVE SPEC OR I WILL NOT JUST KICK YOU FROM RAID BUT THE GUILD ALSO! Casual Rogue player: *For fuck sake!!!, FUCK raiding, I will just gank noobs in STV and maybe try to get rank 10 sometime later on*
Ok, not gonna lie. I was born in 2002, I was 2 when my dad bought WoW, I started playing as a kid in 2008 when I was six and since then im playing WoW and I came here to prepare for Vanilla and to at least TRY to knock some ranks in phaze 2.
I like the video. But I disagree with barman shanker. The proc can break your cc. I would prefer something like the shadow foot stabber due to weapon speed normalization and the CC reliability.
corehound's tooth offhand with crusader and Perdition's blade main hand with superior stiking if you have these dagger's as a rogue it won't be until phase 5 you will upgrade
This was a very unique idea for BiS list. I have one question for you though: I’m going Hemo pvp spec using swords (my personal favourite). If I get Vis’kag for MH, is it better to use a fast weapon like Corehound Tooth/dagger or slow weapon like Brutality Blade/sword in offhand?
mr1337viking if you want more poison procs a fast one is better, if you want more burst potential a slow one, i personally would go with fel striker for off hand in that situation
I am guessing you’re going CB/hemo? If you are daggers are far superior. Everyone wants the cool “big” swords. They fail to mention dagger rogues eat them alive.
Just really wanted a refresher on vanilla gear and was expecting to find a "perditions/FS cb-prep t1 mix sets for p2 or you literally may as well quit" love the options/routes. Covering every option even arguably worthless fist weps because someone wants to play it(i see you RP server). Thanks for the detailed video and just giving info on the topic not your spin on the info.
I’m kinda new to rogue and I’m really wanting to do some BRD runs. I spent a while in Orgrimmar looking for a group and never came up with anything. Are rogues the lesser choice when it comes to dungeons like BRD?
Atacas thats not true, mages are more over populated then rogues and so are warriors but everyone still wants them in their dungeon group cause of AOE and tanking services.
Bonestock Orc is best all around imo, but Undead is super troll and looks awesome lol so if you want to perform better, orc, if you wanna look cool and piss people off in pvp, go undead
Look Alive only in the beginning, it gets moved to emp’s loot table later on, at the time of making this video we didnt know they would be switching loot tables around
What about Drudi video? I used to play it in vanila. But i was a kid and didint know shit about wtf I'm doing... Now when classic is coming out i'd like to relive it again but play it right... I see that thare is so much ways druid was plaid in vanilla... so how bout that
timelostdream yup, and thats what I did with the selection, but each class is different and specifically rogues dont need as much stamina, as they shouldnt be getting hit as much as other classes if they are playing properly. And I believe this gear puts you at 6% hit, can’t remember but I am aware that you only need 5%.
Don't know if i would count this list as "pre pvp" bis having in mind that quick strike, Perdition's blade, blastershot and brutality blade are phase 2
small note for rings
Blackstone Ring
Binds when picked up
Unique
Finger
+6 Stamina
Item level 54
Requires Level 49
Equip: +20 Attack Power.
Equip: Improves your chance to hit by 1%.
dude this video was the first from your channel but i will be watching more! great wow content. i especially like the fonts that you used during editing and the items are zoomed in so i can read the stats.
As a dagger rogue you would much rather have +5 Weapon damage on your main hand than Crusader. Your offhand can be crusader / +15 agi. Also it's better to go for a faster offhand for poison procs.
Victory for the FORSAKEN! Undead Rogue for life! I love the video! So much work to do before phase 2, cant wait! Thanks!
Nikolay Bichev no problem brother! See you on the battlefield!
Love this video, keep up the great work!!
NijelBlakk thanks my dude!
awesome video buddy, thank you for all the work you do
Sleepy Two thanks brother!
I'd love to see warlock next
Sleepy Two I’ll try to cover them all eventually!
Yea....I’ll just go get felstriker
Thanks for the great video, very informative.. some minor things tho; for shoulders it is worth throwing some +5 frost resist or +5 all resist from Argent Dawn also +15 agi wont be out till P2
L33T GUILDS:
Best guild on server: YOU MAY NOT ENTER MY GUILD UNLESS YOU HAVE PRE-RAID BiS
Casual Rogue player: *A month later - Gets it*
Best guild on server: YOUR GEAR IS NOT PRE-RAID BiS?! Did you not know the game WAS UPDATED A WEEK AGO, NEW DUNGEONS ARE OPEN, REPLACE THOSE SHOULDERS, FEET AND NECK YOU NOOB.
Casual Rogue player: *3 weeks later - gets*
Best guild on server: YES YOU DO HAVE PRE-RAID BiS BUT WE NO LONGER NEED ROGUES, WE ARE FULL, ASK ME IN A MONTHS TIME
Casual Rogue player: *Asks in a months time*
Best guild on server: OH YOU SHOULD OF ASKED ME LAST WEEK, WE HAD A SPOT FOR A ROGUE BUT ITS BEEN TAKEN
Casual Rogue player: *But you told me to ask in a months time?!*
Best guild on server: DID I?! I FOR ONE DO NOT RECALL
Casual Rogue player: *Okay fuck this i will apply to the 2nd best guild on the server QQ*
2ND Best guild on server: OH YOU HAVE PRE-RAID BiS, hmmm okay welcome to the guild BUT BE AWARE YOU WILL NOT BE FIRST CHOICE FOR THE RAIDS, OUR BETTER PLAYERS WILL PLAY BEFORE YOU AND IF THEY CAN NOT MAKE THE RAID OR LEAVE HALF WAY IN THEN YOU CAN PLAY.
Casual Rogue player: *Urm, okay*
Casual Rogue player: *''8 RAIDS LATER AND FINALLY GETS THE CHANCE TO RAID'' - YESSS!!*
2ND Best guild on server: WHAT IS THIS SHIT? WHY ARE YOU COMING INTO THE RAID WITH NO CONSUMABLES?! AND IS THAT A PVP SPEC? WHY DO YOU HAVE COLD BLOOOD!??!?!
Casual Rogue player: *UUURRRMMM...uhmm....*
2ND Best guild on server: GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY RAID!! NEXT TIME BRING CONSUMABLES AND PVE SPEC OR I WILL NOT JUST KICK YOU FROM RAID BUT THE GUILD ALSO!
Casual Rogue player: *For fuck sake!!!, FUCK raiding, I will just gank noobs in STV and maybe try to get rank 10 sometime later on*
Rachid Khamlichi Niice!!
if you showed up to raid in pvp spec u deserve to get kicked. deadass. not only will your damage be shit, hemo takes up a precious debuff slot.
Nice one, please consider hunter as next class
Ok, not gonna lie. I was born in 2002, I was 2 when my dad bought WoW, I started playing as a kid in 2008 when I was six and since then im playing WoW and I came here to prepare for Vanilla and to at least TRY to knock some ranks in phaze 2.
I’m here to help brother, I don’t care how old you are just do the best you can and have an open mind
I like the video. But I disagree with barman shanker. The proc can break your cc. I would prefer something like the shadow foot stabber due to weapon speed normalization and the CC reliability.
Hey I’m that kid that got in a conversation with u at the restaurant about rust and that we shouldn’t play it
Pre raid should i switch out night slayer for shadow craft?
corehound's tooth offhand with crusader and Perdition's blade main hand with superior stiking if you have these dagger's as a rogue it won't be until phase 5 you will upgrade
Very good guide well done
Nice video!
Bilko thanks brother!
for swords what about Teebu's Blazing Longsword ? you can loot it from lock box's and im pretty sure its in phase 1 isnt it ?
great video! thanks for refreshing on those memories. see you in classic pvp ;)
This was a very unique idea for BiS list. I have one question for you though:
I’m going Hemo pvp spec using swords (my personal favourite). If I get Vis’kag for MH, is it better to use a fast weapon like Corehound Tooth/dagger or slow weapon like Brutality Blade/sword in offhand?
mr1337viking if you want more poison procs a fast one is better, if you want more burst potential a slow one, i personally would go with fel striker for off hand in that situation
I am guessing you’re going CB/hemo? If you are daggers are far superior. Everyone wants the cool “big” swords. They fail to mention dagger rogues eat them alive.
early on, hemo is hands down just better. after bwl drops it will increase in power
what do u think of the lbrs mace / dagger weapon set combo from the spiders?
Very good video!!
João Faria thank you!
Just really wanted a refresher on vanilla gear and was expecting to find a "perditions/FS cb-prep t1 mix sets for p2 or you literally may as well quit" love the options/routes. Covering every option even arguably worthless fist weps because someone wants to play it(i see you RP server). Thanks for the detailed video and just giving info on the topic not your spin on the info.
I’m kinda new to rogue and I’m really wanting to do some BRD runs. I spent a while in Orgrimmar looking for a group and never came up with anything. Are rogues the lesser choice when it comes to dungeons like BRD?
Jerlemi2 rogues are just overpopulated /:
Atacas thats not true, mages are more over populated then rogues and so are warriors but everyone still wants them in their dungeon group cause of AOE and tanking services.
Question, what would you recommend for race? I'm looking to be both heavy PVP and PVE. Orc? Undead?
Bonestock Orc is best all around imo, but Undead is super troll and looks awesome lol so if you want to perform better, orc, if you wanna look cool and piss people off in pvp, go undead
@@Atacas Awesome thanks! and amazing guide!
Bonestock thanks brother, check back for an updated one soon
I want Krol blade for my Rogue.
You forgot Ebon Mask: Equip: Improves your chance to get a critical strike by 1%.
Equip: +36 Attack Power.
Vogel Hund get you one! And yeah i only included a few pieces for each slot
Ebon mask quest not available for ages
yeah ebon mask isn't until like phase 5
Argent dawn shoulder enchants are out. Bit of resistance
Hand of Justice drops from General Angerforge!
Look Alive only in the beginning, it gets moved to emp’s loot table later on, at the time of making this video we didnt know they would be switching loot tables around
Didn't poisons remove weapon enchants in classic?
Or was it just a bug in early TBC? (was trying to find info on this but I couldn't)
shinshilko i dont recall that, but if they did, pretty sure it was a bug
@@Atacas Thanks =)
shinshilko np brother
so i have a realy dumb question.. is there any way to get into pvp without going to raid?
Absólem of course, you can pvp just using whatever gear you’ve had from questing, you just wont be as strong
@@Atacas and then i just gank people and rank up to get the pvp set right.. is there anything better than the pvp set for pvp? like T2 or
Absólem the set bonuses for pvp gear most classes make them better then most sets
Baron cape is 100% better than raggy cape imo
what would you recommend a casual player who wants to pvp to go rogue or warrior?
rogue definitely
@@Atacas is that because warrior requires top notch gear to unleash at its full potential while rogue dont require as much?
@@Nighttimes. in a nutshell, yes. rogue's base level damage is very high so gear isnt required to be strong
nice video ofc
Payo thanks brother
Is the CB+Hemo build better with sword or daggers?
sword
God those weapons are a pain to get...thrash blade and mirah song atm
Same. for a looong time.
I disagree with a lot of the items and enchants. Stamina is too important to be left out just to get some AP
Please do this for every class
Edit: just subbed. Please do this for every class. Thanks
Aaron Hinchman i got you brother, I’ll work on it
Atacas awesome, thanks! Hunter, paladin, priest, warrior prio for me(:
great video boss
Thanks brother
Ironfoe has a really bad proc-rate compared to private servers, its so low other weps will have greater dmg overall, especially in a pvp situation
Do same for hunters , cant wait to play in few weeks
good video
Erik Sundell thanks brother!
Do a mage pre-pvp BiS guide please!
I like how you used the OG tier 2 skins. repped
You know what it is! ;]
What does BiS mean?
Best in slot. Meaning the best possible gear you can get in the game.
What about dark mantle set?
kmcbrown that set wont be available until the AQ patch
nice video new sub :)
Spriest !
What about Drudi video?
I used to play it in vanila. But i was a kid and didint know shit about wtf I'm doing... Now when classic is coming out i'd like to relive it again but play it right... I see that thare is so much ways druid was plaid in vanilla... so how bout that
Hey I don't understand Alt ... What mean? Alternative ?? right?
why no Keris of Zul'Serak
Can break CC. So can barman shanker but for some reason it's in the video too. Shadowfoot stabber or something else is what you want
So these are pre-pvp bis, not pre-raid? because in pvp, you need less %hit and a lot more stamina, some items could be bis instead
timelostdream yup, and thats what I did with the selection, but each class is different and specifically rogues dont need as much stamina, as they shouldnt be getting hit as much as other classes if they are playing properly. And I believe this gear puts you at 6% hit, can’t remember but I am aware that you only need 5%.
thanks for the guide brother. about to hit 60 and shit on some gnomes
Jake fuck yes haha
Don't know if i would count this list as "pre pvp" bis having in mind that quick strike, Perdition's blade, blastershot and brutality blade are phase 2
no they aren't those are all items from molten core, which is available now
Really good fuckign vid omlll
Fainly i have best gear rouge 2000h plays xD time to endgame fishing
Nice vid. Hunter next pls.
Payo dosen't approve this video Kappa nice
ok so Human best pve damage and orc for pvp
Depends.. Will of the forsaking is pretty good
deepfury bracers
Pally guide=)