The way I understood continents on Pangaea to be is different than just having small islands nearby. The entire Pangaea land mass will itself be divided into continents much like how Europe and Asia are one continuous land mass, but separate continents. It's pretty cool. :)
Yep. I was really hoping they are generating their maps off of plate tectonics, the way a civ 5 map mod did. I don't think they are doing that but I think it would make for more realistic continents, especially where things like mountain ranges are concerned. I really really hope they haven't slacked off on map generation and have put some work into it.
+John Doe yeah, but for the Scythians it's more acceptable since they perished a long time ago, it would be ridiculous if the had any bonuses in the late game because they don't even exist in the late game! But the Germans are a thing today and they are powerful they should have better bonuses. I agree that they should be aim to production and military but the one against the city states is too bad. Then again it's the leader bonus I think, so the problem is they should have chosen a more modern leader, there aren't many options for Germany so it's one of the civs that I wouldn't have changed the leader Bismarck was the best option.
+Casrv Sfv Remember that it's possible to 'levy' city state units and control them in Civ VI, so Germany would be good against those sort of 'mercenary' armies.
Casrv Sfv It's acceptable for the Scythians, since all their bonuses are pretty much focused on early game rush. There's a very clear theme there. With Germany's City State bonus, there doesn't seem to be any clear idea how to best apply it. If was a bonus to City State units that YOU control (I like this one, reminds me of Landsknecht), that would make more sense. After all, medieval Germany and Italy were the lands of mercs. But it's clear that City States are worth much more if they're friendly to you. Not only that, City States generally have weaker armies than a player's civ at a war footing. So why would we waste a valuable civ bonus slot for fighting them?
If you didn't get a natural wonder it wasn't an ability at all. Not just a bad one, it was like playing in disadvantage with one bonus less than everyone else. And even if you managed to settle near a natural wonder it wasn't that good either. The worst special ability of all in Civ V, no doubt. This one, on the contrary is one of the best ones.
I really liked the end of the video when it fades from Phillip to Drew. Phillip was talking, and gesturing with his hands. Then, Drew takes over doing similar gestures 4:05 You should do that at the end of every video.
Drew, I just wanted to say that, after watching your most popular video, The AI Only Battle Part 1, you have really improved! Keep up the great work cracklord!
It seems that Spain will also want to play very expansionist heavy. Their bonus for trade routes + their unique buildings bonus for not being on the same continent as the cap' would lend toward land grabbing.
Yeah, Spain are pretty OP. As far as I remember so far, they have the most focused bonuses that synergize extremely well with each other and a victory type unlike Germany for instance (at least apparently). It's unreal. I was also thinking that they would probably be one of the first Civs that I try. Thanks for the update, Drew.
+Leon Reddick It could be this way, certainly, but it doesn't look very convincing to me mostly because of the city state bonus. Isn't befriending city states more profitable than destroying them? We'll have to see how all this plays out in a real game.
Well i have a theory about their city state bonus. We already know that when you are a suzerain of a city state you can Levy their troops temporarily. So will Germany's bonus still apply to these troops when they are being controlled by another civilization? If so that could be a big plus to that ability.
Everybody expects the line about the Spanish inquisition! With regards to continents on a pangea map, I'll repeat what I've said before: a continent is not the same as a continuous landmass. The game will subdivide large landmasses into several continents. It's the same in the real world. Europe, Asia and Africa are all connected, the same goes for North and South America.
Drew I think you misunderstood the update on how continents work. The pangea continent itself is actually broken into continents much like Europe to Asia or much like pangea would have been historically. The continent is decided below the surface. When you hover over a tile it tells you the continent it belongs to. So people on opposite sides of pangea land mass are actually on separate continents.
I really like Spain, I always try to play religious-war builds in Civ V. I don't know if I would say that Spain is OP, I mean the tercios are very strong but they become obsolete at some point in the game, the unique building is great but I don't think its game breaking specially with how important pillaging will become. Also the combat bonus I feel is self-balancing because since you are already going for a religious victory its more likely than not that your religion will spread decently and your neighbours will probably follow your religion. That said I think spain will be really strong and so far has become my favorite civ.
two things! a. i think Spain may be the first civ I play, depending on the last few civs that come out b. did anyone else notice that in the video it showed the trader going overseas? i guess this means no more cargo ships, which is probably expected since embarked builders have replaced work boats.
Hey Drew hope you see this because I wanna ask... How do you like the idea of having the same Civ, but being able to choose a different leader? Like you can play America and get the American bonus units and stuff, but a different leader bonus like choosing Washington or Roosevelt or maybe JFK and getting some science boost or something with space :)
I'm not Drew but I love that they did that, although I'd prefer the units to change too. For example, the conquistadors are from Philip's time, I'd prefer that they also changed the unique unit with the leader. But I really like the idea of giving some continuity to the civ special ability even when the leader changes.
Think the Americas, or better yet Europe and Eurasia. Europe is physically a part of Eurasia but is clearly a different continent, Americas less so but they are still technically connected by land but are very much different continents.
in civ the continents bonuses have always applied to landmasses separated by water though, so you'd get the bonus for a place like japan or the british isles, but not for europe/asia or north/south america
+Marcusjnmc That's what we are discussing. It's been changed for civilization 6 so that's no longer the case. Continents can now be on the same land mass's. Which it seems they should make more note of because plenty of people don't know that yet. Which is huge for these continental bonuses.
And it seems it would be fun to play as Spain with how focused their traits are for a Religious Victory, possibly my favorite so far But then again it also probably because Spanish is one of the 3 Languages I can speak XD
Methinks Spain would be a great villain if you end up playing against their AI! Especially if you're after a religious victory. Although in every civ game I've played and most every civ I've played as I've wondered... am I actually the bad guy... Playing as Spain... Yes! Yes you are!
Philip II? Aw... I thought we were gonna see Charles V in the game (it was my guess when I saw the thumbnail) then again it would make more sense for him to be the Holy Roman Empire, he did rule Spain though.
Actually, he was more the king of Spain than the ruler of the HRE. The HRE was harder to rule and Spain had much more potential to get the money or the armies to back his campaigns, in fact he lived in Spain (where his wife and son lived too) and died in Spain. In any case during this time Spain was tied to the HRE and it was weaker than with Phillip II with whom it broke free. And also most people see Charles V/I as the emperor, even though as I said his real power came from the Spanish crown, not the empire.
i was really hoping that charles the second would be the new spanish leader. Even if he was genuinely retarded, he still has a special place in my heart!
Thought exactly the same, their special abilities are set for that. If only they had chosen Elizabeth I for Britain instead of Victoria, that would have been completely accurate.
@@casrvsfv3172 during Elizabeth's rule, England was in decadence. Queen Victoria was an empress, founder of United Kingdom of England... It's fine that she was chosen to be in The Game.
are you joking? this the time is when they just butchered every non-catholic; including muslim and jew. The umayyad era of andalusian spain is more islamic representation. learn history damnit
+TheCreator 901 yes but they are more historically relevant to their countries than Franco is to Spain. I mean Spain's golden age gave very iconic leaders like Philip II that would make Franco look somewhat irrelevant, for both Russia and China (or even Germany if you don't count the Holy Roman Empire) they haven't really been that relevant in global history until recent times, so they lack those kind of influential leaders and modern ones like those are pretty much all they have (relevant or famous enough), even if they are polemic.
I understand the point you are putting across. And I agree with you because Franco is pretty irrelevant in Spanish History but I had the feeling Franco will be leader. I dont know why
+TheCreator 901 Franco, irrelevant for Spanish History? Sadly we shaped today's Spain by a cruel 40 years of dictatorship. Of course, he didn't do anything internationally speaking, he just fucked his own country so badly. We, Spaniards would feel insulted if we had that man as leader.
Well that was how the Habsburgs dressed during the renaissance, and even more so the Spanish branch. Philip III and IV as well as Charles II dressed all the same. About the similar look as you said is logical since they're father and son.
Casrv Sfv yes, but Philip very rarely wore the armour, even when comanding(the captain of his guard hated him for this) and he was more kin to wearing maroon/scarlet coloured clothes, unlike the black that was iconic of Charles's wardrobe, i think they wanted to use charles, but it was too much of a hassle since he could also be used for ruler of austria or germany, although, he spent little of his life directly ruling over them, most of his youth was spent in burgundy, and his adult life was spent mostly on Spanish soil (either in iberia or or the italian possessions)
+RichyArg yeah, that's true he usually wore black clothes in the paintings, but I think they went for a more iconic Habsburg look not really for his personal one, like in their traditional portrays.
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BUT NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!
yeah! NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!
Our chief weapon is surprise, surprise and fear, fear and surprise...
+Da Rat Bastid our two weapons are fear and surprise, and ruthless efficiency, three!
And now for something completely different...
No. 1 The Larch
Spanish Inquisition. Unexpected since 1970.
Spain is my favorite so far.
España esta muy orgullosa de ti
+Gero hurtado Hehe xD
Jajajajjajajajjajajajaja
+Gero hurtado they think you're super religious guys, only faith bonuses, Jesus (jajaja)
sem ideia do q por We were super religious at that time
It's safe to say I did not expect the Spanish Inquisition. Well played, Firaxis.
The way I understood continents on Pangaea to be is different than just having small islands nearby. The entire Pangaea land mass will itself be divided into continents much like how Europe and Asia are one continuous land mass, but separate continents. It's pretty cool. :)
Yep. I was really hoping they are generating their maps off of plate tectonics, the way a civ 5 map mod did. I don't think they are doing that but I think it would make for more realistic continents, especially where things like mountain ranges are concerned. I really really hope they haven't slacked off on map generation and have put some work into it.
will every new nation make Germany look even weaker?
Yeah Germany is the only one that I think had legitimately bad bonuses rather than ones I personally might not use as much.
Comparatively speaking, yes. They're situational, which isn't too good compared to other civs. The same could be said of the Scythians in late game.
+John Doe yeah, but for the Scythians it's more acceptable since they perished a long time ago, it would be ridiculous if the had any bonuses in the late game because they don't even exist in the late game! But the Germans are a thing today and they are powerful they should have better bonuses. I agree that they should be aim to production and military but the one against the city states is too bad. Then again it's the leader bonus I think, so the problem is they should have chosen a more modern leader, there aren't many options for Germany so it's one of the civs that I wouldn't have changed the leader Bismarck was the best option.
+Casrv Sfv Remember that it's possible to 'levy' city state units and control them in Civ VI, so Germany would be good against those sort of 'mercenary' armies.
Casrv Sfv
It's acceptable for the Scythians, since all their bonuses are pretty much focused on early game rush. There's a very clear theme there.
With Germany's City State bonus, there doesn't seem to be any clear idea how to best apply it. If was a bonus to City State units that YOU control (I like this one, reminds me of Landsknecht), that would make more sense. After all, medieval Germany and Italy were the lands of mercs.
But it's clear that City States are worth much more if they're friendly to you. Not only that, City States generally have weaker armies than a player's civ at a war footing. So why would we waste a valuable civ bonus slot for fighting them?
NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!
I like to think the guys at Firaxis put the buff on the inquisitors just because of Monty Python.
I wonder where Monty Python got their inspiration...
scarletrobin Who the fuck knows, especially with stuff like and now for something completely different.
Nobody expects the Civ Inquisition!
I like how they made Spain's special ability a lot better cause their last one sucked
What the last one was basically a snowball effect ?
+Yahir Tapia No the one that only applied if you got wonders.
their last one ruled
If you didn't get a good wonder it wasn't that great of an ability.
If you didn't get a natural wonder it wasn't an ability at all. Not just a bad one, it was like playing in disadvantage with one bonus less than everyone else. And even if you managed to settle near a natural wonder it wasn't that good either. The worst special ability of all in Civ V, no doubt. This one, on the contrary is one of the best ones.
I really liked the end of the video when it fades from Phillip to Drew. Phillip was talking, and gesturing with his hands. Then, Drew takes over doing similar gestures 4:05 You should do that at the end of every video.
0:26 NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPAINISH INQUISITION!!!
Drew, I just wanted to say that, after watching your most popular video, The AI Only Battle Part 1, you have really improved! Keep up the great work cracklord!
when i first downloaded civ V the first civ i played as was spain i think i will keep this tradition alive in civ VI
Spain and the USA will be my go to civs in this.
It seems that Spain will also want to play very expansionist heavy. Their bonus for trade routes + their unique buildings bonus for not being on the same continent as the cap' would lend toward land grabbing.
Yeah, Spain are pretty OP. As far as I remember so far, they have the most focused bonuses that synergize extremely well with each other and a victory type unlike Germany for instance (at least apparently). It's unreal. I was also thinking that they would probably be one of the first Civs that I try. Thanks for the update, Drew.
I would say that Germany is probably more focused towards a domination victory due to their bonuses.
+Leon Reddick It could be this way, certainly, but it doesn't look very convincing to me mostly because of the city state bonus. Isn't befriending city states more profitable than destroying them? We'll have to see how all this plays out in a real game.
Well i have a theory about their city state bonus. We already know that when you are a suzerain of a city state you can Levy their troops temporarily. So will Germany's bonus still apply to these troops when they are being controlled by another civilization? If so that could be a big plus to that ability.
Sweet, a main Civ i have played a lot and those bonuses are nice. Looking forward to spreading the word :P
Now for Rome...
Philip ll is the king of iberian union, not only spain but a union betwen Portugal and Spains (small kingdoms that form spain of now days)
Everybody expects the line about the Spanish inquisition!
With regards to continents on a pangea map, I'll repeat what I've said before: a continent is not the same as a continuous landmass. The game will subdivide large landmasses into several continents. It's the same in the real world. Europe, Asia and Africa are all connected, the same goes for North and South America.
Drew I think you misunderstood the update on how continents work. The pangea continent itself is actually broken into continents much like Europe to Asia or much like pangea would have been historically. The continent is decided below the surface. When you hover over a tile it tells you the continent it belongs to. So people on opposite sides of pangea land mass are actually on separate continents.
a science victory is just as well as a military victory too but we also dont know how important eurekas are going to be
I really like Spain, I always try to play religious-war builds in Civ V. I don't know if I would say that Spain is OP, I mean the tercios are very strong but they become obsolete at some point in the game, the unique building is great but I don't think its game breaking specially with how important pillaging will become. Also the combat bonus I feel is self-balancing because since you are already going for a religious victory its more likely than not that your religion will spread decently and your neighbours will probably follow your religion. That said I think spain will be really strong and so far has become my favorite civ.
two things!
a. i think Spain may be the first civ I play, depending on the last few civs that come out
b. did anyone else notice that in the video it showed the trader going overseas? i guess this means no more cargo ships, which is probably expected since embarked builders have replaced work boats.
I think I will be using Spain as my go to
Hey Drew hope you see this because I wanna ask...
How do you like the idea of having the same Civ, but being able to choose a different leader? Like you can play America and get the American bonus units and stuff, but a different leader bonus like choosing Washington or Roosevelt or maybe JFK and getting some science boost or something with space :)
I'm not Drew but I love that they did that, although I'd prefer the units to change too. For example, the conquistadors are from Philip's time, I'd prefer that they also changed the unique unit with the leader. But I really like the idea of giving some continuity to the civ special ability even when the leader changes.
Is that a trireme in deep water at 0:50?
Maybe a tech unlocks the ability for all boats to go into deep water?
yeah maybe but still
you have to explain continents better than saying British isles... one big pangea landmass can have more than one continent...
Exactly. So many people tend to forget that Continents don't have to be separated by water like in civilization 5. Which is true to life.
Yup. I mean, The americas house different continents without the need for 'islands'. So does Eurasia, etc.
Think the Americas, or better yet Europe and Eurasia. Europe is physically a part of Eurasia but is clearly a different continent, Americas less so but they are still technically connected by land but are very much different continents.
in civ the continents bonuses have always applied to landmasses separated by water though, so you'd get the bonus for a place like japan or the british isles, but not for europe/asia or north/south america
+Marcusjnmc That's what we are discussing. It's been changed for civilization 6 so that's no longer the case. Continents can now be on the same land mass's. Which it seems they should make more note of because plenty of people don't know that yet. Which is huge for these continental bonuses.
I honestly find it kinda funny how Felipe/Phillip II is if I am not wrong a Great Grandson of the previous leader from Civ 5 Isabella I
And it seems it would be fun to play as Spain with how focused their traits are for a Religious Victory, possibly my favorite so far
But then again it also probably because Spanish is one of the 3 Languages I can speak XD
Well the question is of course will the conversion ability will be inherited. If not the window for useing it is quite narrow.
Quick conversion then during the mid game, more realistic. Anyway, there are lots of other bonuses that still remain in the late game.
why the hell did you have to change your hair drew!?!
It was perfect!
VIVA ESPAÑA
Methinks Spain would be a great villain if you end up playing against their AI! Especially if you're after a religious victory.
Although in every civ game I've played and most every civ I've played as I've wondered... am I actually the bad guy...
Playing as Spain... Yes! Yes you are!
the Inquistion, what a show!
the Inquisition, here we go!
I didn't know that was a thing either ? Could you combine ships into fleets in Civ 5 ?
No you can't.
aaahhhh idk if I should get the deluxe or the standard
Drew you never said WHAT the Unique Unit was I mean yea you can read and look at the original video
I won a Diplomatic Victory while playing as Korea for the first time, completely on accident.
Arabia better be a match to spain's aggressive religion abilities by being aggressive in religion too. I'd speculate India should as well.
Tyercu Uhbitu it seems you speculated brilliantly!
You like the style because he looks and acts like you with black hair and a beard.
What? Why is Jakarta a city-state. Is Indonesia not a civ? PLZ TELL ME FRAXIS.
Philip II? Aw... I thought we were gonna see Charles V in the game (it was my guess when I saw the thumbnail) then again it would make more sense for him to be the Holy Roman Empire, he did rule Spain though.
Actually, he was more the king of Spain than the ruler of the HRE. The HRE was harder to rule and Spain had much more potential to get the money or the armies to back his campaigns, in fact he lived in Spain (where his wife and son lived too) and died in Spain. In any case during this time Spain was tied to the HRE and it was weaker than with Phillip II with whom it broke free. And also most people see Charles V/I as the emperor, even though as I said his real power came from the Spanish crown, not the empire.
It turn out 300% of the commenters are dutch. Hallo.
hallo
hjb kill
Hoi :)
hahahaha, and they relly hate phillip
I can't wait to see who will lead the arabs and the persians !!! by the way, I really like your videos !!
The enemy of the netherlands Filliph the second
+thom hopstaken Yes, but i think William will be in a DLC so we have to wait again after the release 😢
+Gerben Strokap Who is this William you are talking about?
+John Norris William Van Orange
You wanted to say the rightful ruler of the Netherlands
+Maernus William of Orange is the one who led the Dutch to freedom from the Spanish Empire.
Yes Spain is a good civ to play as a religion victory
i was really hoping that charles the second would be the new spanish leader. Even if he was genuinely retarded, he still has a special place in my heart!
Spain is actually even better than what Korea or Babylon were because even it's units contribute to it's over all aim.
Looking forward to Anglo-Spanish colonial wars, especially if America is on the non-home continent.
Thought exactly the same, their special abilities are set for that. If only they had chosen Elizabeth I for Britain instead of Victoria, that would have been completely accurate.
Casrv Sfv Maybe she'll be an alternate leader? Those are all but confirmed by now.
Jack Tanton not long until they finally confirm them already.
@@casrvsfv3172 during Elizabeth's rule, England was in decadence. Queen Victoria was an empress, founder of United Kingdom of England... It's fine that she was chosen to be in The Game.
the enemy of spain is the netherlands ( fhilps 2 vs wilhem of orange
The Netherlands were more of a rebellious colony, the real enemy at that time was England or even France.
I am waiting for ottomans!
No Ottomans in base this time around forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=570683
If that thread is correct, then that would be a very interesting civ/leader lineup for the base game.
It just got me more excited :)
@@Tytoalba777 ottoman is now in g and f
I think the next first look is going to be the neatherlands
Nope.
Amsterdam is a city state.
+Petr Vilímek fuck really?
I hope they change that
The civs already leaked, Netherlands isn't in there this time
VAMOS ESPAÑA
Do we know what Spain's agenda is yet???
I've been asking for centuries!! They seem to have given the name "defender of the faith", but not what it consists of.
yeah.
Like someone else said, he does look really nice, but his hands are a bit too large :D
Watch yourself Montezuma.
This spain seems quite slamic. "Religious of """"peace""""" :V
So in other words, Civ 6 Spain is modern Islam.
are you joking? this the time is when they just butchered every non-catholic; including muslim and jew. The umayyad era of andalusian spain is more islamic representation. learn history damnit
Eissa Cozorav So, wanna a cookie, cracudo?
henrique neto
just dont be ignorant dude, its just simply cruel joke.
Eissa Cozorav 1. It's a joke. 2. Have you seen ISIS? They butcher every non-Muslim.
Why isn't the leader Francisco Franco leader?
With Carrero Blanco as a Great Person to boost the Space Race?
Javitomanzano It would be wonderful
+Javitomanzano top
Why isn't Hitler the leader of Germany? Why won't Stallin be the leader of Russia? Isn't it obvious?
TheSystemRequirements GG It's cuz Firaxis isn't hip
I had a feeling Franco would have been thespanish leader
There are lots of better leaders in Spanish history, putting aside moral and ideology. It would be an unnecessarily polemic choice.
I know. But we cannot forget that Mao and Stalin were previously leaders in the series
+TheCreator 901 yes but they are more historically relevant to their countries than Franco is to Spain. I mean Spain's golden age gave very iconic leaders like Philip II that would make Franco look somewhat irrelevant, for both Russia and China (or even Germany if you don't count the Holy Roman Empire) they haven't really been that relevant in global history until recent times, so they lack those kind of influential leaders and modern ones like those are pretty much all they have (relevant or famous enough), even if they are polemic.
I understand the point you are putting across. And I agree with you because Franco is pretty irrelevant in Spanish History but I had the feeling Franco will be leader. I dont know why
+TheCreator 901 Franco, irrelevant for Spanish History? Sadly we shaped today's Spain by a cruel 40 years of dictatorship. Of course, he didn't do anything internationally speaking, he just fucked his own country so badly. We, Spaniards would feel insulted if we had that man as leader.
wait THERES A RELIGIOUS VICTORY!?
yea...
But no diplomatic victory anymore. It's science, domination, cultural and religious
but nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition, Catholical Power yei 🇪🇸🇪🇸✝
Vamos España!
legend says if your this early the cracklord himself will reply
hello
that Philip the second looks an awful lot like Charles the first/fifth... i mean, i know he's his son, but the outfit is too similar
Well that was how the Habsburgs dressed during the renaissance, and even more so the Spanish branch. Philip III and IV as well as Charles II dressed all the same. About the similar look as you said is logical since they're father and son.
Casrv Sfv yes, but Philip very rarely wore the armour, even when comanding(the captain of his guard hated him for this) and he was more kin to wearing maroon/scarlet coloured clothes, unlike the black that was iconic of Charles's wardrobe, i think they wanted to use charles, but it was too much of a hassle since he could also be used for ruler of austria or germany, although, he spent little of his life directly ruling over them, most of his youth was spent in burgundy, and his adult life was spent mostly on Spanish soil (either in iberia or or the italian possessions)
+RichyArg yeah, that's true he usually wore black clothes in the paintings, but I think they went for a more iconic Habsburg look not really for his personal one, like in their traditional portrays.
no one expects the spanish Inquisition
Spain is op
Viva España!
jeez can we have another African and an Arab civ please!
NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!!!
civ 6 is coming hahahaha😇😇😇😇