Thank you for your review) I was looking forward to see this movie. I loved the original Joker. But as reviews pile up, there are few that are even a little bit positive. Very sad that critiques like you have a better ideas than people who actually write scripts. They could've made such a great story, exploring the inner battle of Arthur. More like Jakyl and Mr. Hide. Harley could have been a force of nature, bringing Arthur to his demise like a femme fatale. But we have what we have🤗
*Spoilers I think people really misjudged the entire plot. What I saw in this flick is truly magnificent. Read the breakdown below. The entire film revolves around a central theme: Does Joker truly exist, or is it just Arthur faking it? Throughout the film, it wasn’t Arthur trying to become 'The Joker.' Instead, 'The Joker' was already within him, pushing constantly to emerge. The dream-like sequences we see in Arthur’s mind, banging the Judge and killing people are the struggles of that inner battle. Arthur resists at every turn. It was a Joker's thing in the first iteration that he would kiss unexpectedly as he greets. Here, Arthur's resistance is visible when he tries to kiss his lawyer, which becomes an awkward mess. Even when he attempts to embody 'The Joker' in the courtroom, his fake accent is evident that he's just not fully there yet. His followers sense this too, as he fails to truly connect with them. Even to the audience, the entire act is a failure on Arthur's part. After all the miseries, after feeling lost and helpless, Arthur does something that he shouldn't have done at any cost. DISRESPECTING THE JOKER. He disrespects 'The Joker' when he takes full responsibility for the 7 murders he did, hence taking away the credit from 'The Joker', which has always been dear to him. Those who have read him in the comics know it very well Joker then begins to show up intangibly. You could see Arthur's supporters parting away from him. Harley leaves him. All the support he (indirectly the Joker) had abandons Arthur. When Arthur becomes a NOBODY, 'The Joker tactically finds the one who truly admires 'The Joker's' persona, who admired Joker's kiss at the beginning of the film. The Joker chooses him as his new host by killing Arthur, who will soon be forgotten while Joker's legacy will continue. Killing Arthur was Joker's 8th Murder. Folie à Deux isn’t just a shared state between Arthur and Lee-it's shared with the entire community. 'The Joker' is the parasite no one can disrespect, even the host he occupies." Whether you like this film depends on whether you saw 'The Joker' doing what he does best.
@@prateekbhanushali1956 very insightful analysis. I appreciate those thoughts. It’s a great way at interpreting it. I agree with a lot of it. Thanks for your thoughts!
wow this is a fabulous analysis of the film. and it fits with the opening animated sequence (one of my fave parts of the whole film! i thought it was so interesting!). think you’ve hit the nail on the head.
wow i think you were right on the money when you said folie a deux feels less like a sequel and more like an epilogue. i can’t help but feel like they should’ve made it into a tv show for hbo max, like the penguin has got, and it would’ve gave them time to flesh out the characters, work on the writing etc and instead of having loads of small scale musical sequences, have one very large and extravagant musical number each episode that pops up randomly that you get excited for each week. i think that would’ve fixed almost every issue i had with folie a deux. as it stands its not the “total garbage” everyone is claiming it to be, but it’s far too overambitious for a film that comes in just over the 2 hour mark. i know many scenes with gaga were cut which i feel like is a big issue (harley as a character was very weak and we know little to nothing about her, her motivations, and what if anything she was being honest about), maybe if there is enough demand for it they’ll add these deleted scenes in for a directors cut blu ray.
I adored it. I watc everything on 1.5 speed,I think this helps alot. It was incredible, the acting, the aesthetic, the sets, the script, the songs all of it was phenomenal. I'm DYING TO SEE LEE TURN INTO HARLEY! I WANT A PART 3 Still have not seen the first one
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Thank you for your review) I was looking forward to see this movie. I loved the original Joker. But as reviews pile up, there are few that are even a little bit positive. Very sad that critiques like you have a better ideas than people who actually write scripts. They could've made such a great story, exploring the inner battle of Arthur. More like Jakyl and Mr. Hide. Harley could have been a force of nature, bringing Arthur to his demise like a femme fatale. But we have what we have🤗
*Spoilers
I think people really misjudged the entire plot. What I saw in this flick is truly magnificent. Read the breakdown below.
The entire film revolves around a central theme: Does Joker truly exist, or is it just Arthur faking it?
Throughout the film, it wasn’t Arthur trying to become 'The Joker.' Instead, 'The Joker' was already within him, pushing constantly to emerge. The dream-like sequences we see in Arthur’s mind, banging the Judge and killing people are the struggles of that inner battle. Arthur resists at every turn. It was a Joker's thing in the first iteration that he would kiss unexpectedly as he greets. Here, Arthur's resistance is visible when he tries to kiss his lawyer, which becomes an awkward mess. Even when he attempts to embody 'The Joker' in the courtroom, his fake accent is evident that he's just not fully there yet. His followers sense this too, as he fails to truly connect with them. Even to the audience, the entire act is a failure on Arthur's part.
After all the miseries, after feeling lost and helpless, Arthur does something that he shouldn't have done at any cost. DISRESPECTING THE JOKER. He disrespects 'The Joker' when he takes full responsibility for the 7 murders he did, hence taking away the credit from 'The Joker', which has always been dear to him. Those who have read him in the comics know it very well
Joker then begins to show up intangibly. You could see Arthur's supporters parting away from him. Harley leaves him. All the support he (indirectly the Joker) had abandons Arthur.
When Arthur becomes a NOBODY, 'The Joker tactically finds the one who truly admires 'The Joker's' persona, who admired Joker's kiss at the beginning of the film. The Joker chooses him as his new host by killing Arthur, who will soon be forgotten while Joker's legacy will continue. Killing Arthur was Joker's 8th Murder.
Folie à Deux isn’t just a shared state between Arthur and Lee-it's shared with the entire community. 'The Joker' is the parasite no one can disrespect, even the host he occupies."
Whether you like this film depends on whether you saw 'The Joker' doing what he does best.
@@prateekbhanushali1956 very insightful analysis. I appreciate those thoughts. It’s a great way at interpreting it. I agree with a lot of it. Thanks for your thoughts!
wow this is a fabulous analysis of the film. and it fits with the opening animated sequence (one of my fave parts of the whole film! i thought it was so interesting!). think you’ve hit the nail on the head.
wow i think you were right on the money when you said folie a deux feels less like a sequel and more like an epilogue. i can’t help but feel like they should’ve made it into a tv show for hbo max, like the penguin has got, and it would’ve gave them time to flesh out the characters, work on the writing etc and instead of having loads of small scale musical sequences, have one very large and extravagant musical number each episode that pops up randomly that you get excited for each week. i think that would’ve fixed almost every issue i had with folie a deux. as it stands its not the “total garbage” everyone is claiming it to be, but it’s far too overambitious for a film that comes in just over the 2 hour mark. i know many scenes with gaga were cut which i feel like is a big issue (harley as a character was very weak and we know little to nothing about her, her motivations, and what if anything she was being honest about), maybe if there is enough demand for it they’ll add these deleted scenes in for a directors cut blu ray.
Very good review!!
I adored it.
I watc everything on 1.5 speed,I think this helps alot.
It was incredible, the acting, the aesthetic, the sets, the script, the songs all of it was phenomenal. I'm DYING TO SEE LEE TURN INTO HARLEY! I WANT A PART 3
Still have not seen the first one
Watch the first one and you’ll quickly understand why people are entirely disappointed