Hey Ricky. Your "How to's" are brilliant. No nonsense straightforward. Making a really daunting task simple. I got my first 14 foot boat 5 months ago. I knew it was going to need a little work. However turned into a can worms! I'm OK with glassing. It's the rest I'm unsure about. Couldn't of been better timing as I'm now moving onto gelcoat and then paint it in the winter. Thanks you for the videos. I look forward to seeing more of restoration and up keep of boats.💪🤙😎
Great advice on keeping the DA level, I see so many people hacking away on the edge of the sanding disc then leaving an unfair finish. Top job. Great explanation. Cheers Rossco
My experience is that there is a great loss of gel coat in the high ridges that is sanded down. Try getting a long piece of cellophane that's as wide and long as the area that you're working on, and [using a friend], stretch it out the length of the freshly applied gel coat and allow it to bond with the gel coat at the center and slowly lay it into the gel coat until it reaches the ends so air is not trapped inside. You can not shift the cellophane after contact or a mess will happen. After running a straight edge over the cellophane lightly the gel coat will be absolutely flat so sanding off the cellophane is a snap, with almost no gel coat loss.
This video helped me more than any of the other ones that had the dude adding a ton of different additives and stuff. I like the simple method, maybe a little more sanding involved but it’s simpler that way.
Thank you for posting , really helping me to decide between painting and gel coat ! Was the majority of your boat surface painted or gel coated ? Mine has gel coat and have no clue as to if gel coat can be applied over the top of original gel coat or will I have to sand down to fiberglass? I would rally like to be able to use gel coat on my sailboat but if it has to be taken all the way down to fiberglass may just end up painting with the alexseal system and their new additive to roll the paint on. Thanks again for taking time to post very informative !
Mine was painted over gelcoat and reacted bad . That's the only reason I sanded mine back to fibreglass. If yours is gelcoat a good polish will bring it up like new again . Or just give it a key and go over the gelcoat base
Thanks for the video, maybe we have different terminology in Australia, but my understanding is gelcoat is unwaxed, flow coat is waxed. Aren't you cut and polishing flowcoat ? or have I got it wrong ? thanks, John.
The result was amazing! Just a quick question, just before you buffed out, you sanded with 600 grit, so that was the last sand paper grit? You did not sand with 1200 before polish?
Great educational video mate. I bought a 1980 Jeep CJ5 about 2 years ago. It has a fiberglass tub/body & has a jelcoat (white) finish that they painted a blue automotive paint. My question to you all is this: Would it be easier to strip the paint off & jelcoat it or can I just shoot another layer of auto paint over it? I'm leaning towards striping the old paint off & shooting a nice jelcoat on it. What's your thoughts on it?
The two videos are terrific! I repainted my aluminum fishing boat with rattle cans and the effort spent trying to stop runs was huge. I don’t think the end result was particularly “thick” and my bumpers scuffed off the surface pretty quick. Would it be possible to roll the paint on in more thinner coats to eliminate the heavy ribbing ?
Thanks mate . You can roller on paint as well as brush it on . The paint probably won't stick to the bumpers due to the type of plastic/ rubber there made from . Might be worth trying an etch primer
Better to spray the gelcoat so you can start sanding with 320. Using a machine with 120 to get to the bottom of brush strokes will take the whole surface out of fair in my opinion.
This video was for people that done have the specialist equipment and the finish on this boat after cut and polish is perfect . Look at my other video of the finish
Very helpful videos; many thanks for doing these. I have done a number of sailing dinghy restorations but have always used paint (Brightside or two part epoxy) as boat were being dry sailed. Now doing one that will be wet sailed so gelcoat is the primary choice. Really had no clue the difference vs paint and this answered a lot of questions. Thanks again.
I've sanded out some scratches, it all looks smooth in some light, but in others it still looks matte rather than shiny. Worked on it forever, sponge and buffer. How do I know if I'm using the correct polish?
May be for the sanding can be better using water instead the dry sanding .... Less dust more healthy and the surfaces stay more clean (the dust washed and stay down with water) ..... Best Regards from Hellas (Greece)!!!!
Although I do respect what you've done here. I prefer spraying. Often I can start sanding with 320 or even 400 grit,then continue with 600,800,1200,1500 ,2000 and finishing with a 3000 grit pad . All on the sander.no buffer. Just a couple coats of wax. Smoother than a dolphin.
On your first video re the gelcoat application. Can you tell me how long you had with any one tub (you had four tubs) of gelcoat with the hardener, before it became unworkable? Great videos 😊thanks
It all depends on the ambient temperature . And how much catalyst you use . You can add more or less to help your work time . You can mix a big amount but add less catalyst . I found one at a time I'd best for me
I was told that the final coat should be flowcoat not gelcoat as the additive in flowcoat makes it set on the surface where gelcoat remains tacky and difficult to sand?
that is pretty impressive from dry 600 to buffing/polish, but becarefull dont go to fast and get to hot. and keep your sand paper clean. i like to do this with a bit of spray water and then more water and do 1000 sanding. but this guy know what he is doing and doing it fast.
Thank you, I was worried because my Gelcoat, which I'm currently applying, looked as rough as a badgers ass. I honestly thought I'd completely screwed it up. A side note, my Erbauer DA, melted the backing pad with the friction, how did you avoid that happening?
@@westcoastprojects01 thanks mate👍 I’ve painted a boat before using 2 part primer then 2 part epoxy and it came out well but thought topcoat being one product might be easier
Automotive Paints can look good on boats but are much less durable. They will scratch much easier, and chemicals like gasoline may lift/ruin your finish.
They painted my boat with gelcoat. I sanded with 120 before painting. 3 coats, now I’m into polishing I did wet sanding 600,800,1000. Still can see the scratches from the 120 over the new gelcoat. What you recommend? Think I should go lower than 600?
Hey Ricky. Your "How to's" are brilliant. No nonsense straightforward. Making a really daunting task simple. I got my first 14 foot boat 5 months ago. I knew it was going to need a little work. However turned into a can worms! I'm OK with glassing. It's the rest I'm unsure about. Couldn't of been better timing as I'm now moving onto gelcoat and then paint it in the winter. Thanks you for the videos. I look forward to seeing more of restoration and up keep of boats.💪🤙😎
Great advice on keeping the DA level, I see so many people hacking away on the edge of the sanding disc then leaving an unfair finish. Top job. Great explanation. Cheers Rossco
My experience is that there is a great loss of gel coat in the high ridges that is sanded down. Try getting a long piece of cellophane that's as wide and long as the area that you're working on, and [using a friend], stretch it out the length of the freshly applied gel coat and allow it to bond with the gel coat at the center and slowly lay it into the gel coat until it reaches the ends so air is not trapped inside. You can not shift the cellophane after contact or a mess will happen. After running a straight edge over the cellophane lightly the gel coat will be absolutely flat so sanding off the cellophane is a snap, with almost no gel coat loss.
That sounds like the way to go for me.
You mean like wide cling wrap?
For anyone reading this good advice, wax paper also works for the same purpose, and it is a little easier to manage than cellophane.
Great tip
@@Madiba100cling wrap is as different product , cellophane is like the stuff you get flowers in . It does not stretch. 😊
Looks great I'm sold on re gelcoating over paint
Brilliant demo! Looks amazing!
Excellent video Rick.
Great video, thanks . Maybe we will have the confidence to do our boat now
This video helped me more than any of the other ones that had the dude adding a ton of different additives and stuff. I like the simple method, maybe a little more sanding involved but it’s simpler that way.
Nice job !!! Thanks for the advices...
You make it look easy.
Good finish work. 👏
Excellent job sir
Thank you
for me this looks better than paint
Thank you for posting , really helping me to decide between painting and gel coat ! Was the majority of your boat surface painted or gel coated ? Mine has gel coat and have no clue as to if gel coat can be applied over the top of original gel coat or will I have to sand down to fiberglass? I would rally like to be able to use gel coat on my sailboat but if it has to be taken all the way down to fiberglass may just end up painting with the alexseal system and their new additive to roll the paint on.
Thanks again for taking time to post very informative !
Mine was painted over gelcoat and reacted bad . That's the only reason I sanded mine back to fibreglass. If yours is gelcoat a good polish will bring it up like new again . Or just give it a key and go over the gelcoat base
Thanks for the video, maybe we have different terminology in Australia, but my understanding is gelcoat is unwaxed, flow coat is waxed. Aren't you cut and polishing flowcoat ? or have I got it wrong ? thanks, John.
No you are correct there buddy .
Thank you. I would have been good if you had taken one small area and taken it through the whole process on that one spot.
The result was amazing! Just a quick question, just before you buffed out, you sanded with 600 grit, so that was the last sand paper grit? You did not sand with 1200 before polish?
I started with 120 grit then all the way up to 1200 grit . You can go even finer with the discs but that worked well enough for that finish
Nice job , good how to video.
Man, that looks great!
Thanks
Great educational video mate. I bought a 1980 Jeep CJ5 about 2 years ago. It has a fiberglass tub/body & has a jelcoat (white) finish that they painted a blue automotive paint. My question to you all is this: Would it be easier to strip the paint off & jelcoat it or can I just shoot another layer of auto paint over it? I'm leaning towards striping the old paint off & shooting a nice jelcoat on it. What's your thoughts on it?
Nice work
The two videos are terrific! I repainted my aluminum fishing boat with rattle cans and the effort spent trying to stop runs was huge. I don’t think the end result was particularly “thick” and my bumpers scuffed off the surface pretty quick. Would it be possible to roll the paint on in more thinner coats to eliminate the heavy ribbing ?
Thanks mate . You can roller on paint as well as brush it on . The paint probably won't stick to the bumpers due to the type of plastic/ rubber there made from . Might be worth trying an etch primer
Great video, thank you 👍
Very informative thank you
Glad you liked it bud
can i do all this steps under the waterline? i wanna have a smooth surface under the boat and good glide
Yeah mate no issues at all
Awsome!
Excellent, thanks mate.
If I may ask, how many coat of gel coat did you apply ? thank you
I did 2 coats
THANKS!
Better to spray the gelcoat so you can start sanding with 320. Using a machine with 120 to get to the bottom of brush strokes will take the whole surface out of fair in my opinion.
This video was for people that done have the specialist equipment and the finish on this boat after cut and polish is perfect . Look at my other video of the finish
Fokkin nice man
Cheers bud
Can the gel coat be sprayed on.
Yeah mate
@@westcoastprojects01 thanks
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Won't to glass bottom hull 18 foot icelandic wot glass do you recommend
Real nice 🤙☺️
Very helpful videos; many thanks for doing these. I have done a number of sailing dinghy restorations but have always used paint (Brightside or two part epoxy) as boat were being dry sailed. Now doing one that will be wet sailed so gelcoat is the primary choice. Really had no clue the difference vs paint and this answered a lot of questions. Thanks again.
Nice work
I've sanded out some scratches, it all looks smooth in some light, but in others it still looks matte rather than shiny. Worked on it forever, sponge and buffer. How do I know if I'm using the correct polish?
You want a cutting compound not a polish
May be for the sanding can be better using water instead the dry sanding .... Less dust more healthy and the surfaces stay more clean (the dust washed and stay down with water) .....
Best Regards from Hellas (Greece)!!!!
Although I do respect what you've done here. I prefer spraying. Often I can start sanding with 320 or even 400 grit,then continue with 600,800,1200,1500 ,2000 and finishing with a 3000 grit pad . All on the sander.no buffer. Just a couple coats of wax. Smoother than a dolphin.
Thin with styrene and the spray smooths out like awlgrip. No peel, bro. For your purpose u can start and finish w 400 grit.
On your first video re the gelcoat application. Can you tell me how long you had with any one tub (you had four tubs) of gelcoat with the hardener, before it became unworkable? Great videos 😊thanks
It all depends on the ambient temperature . And how much catalyst you use . You can add more or less to help your work time . You can mix a big amount but add less catalyst . I found one at a time I'd best for me
Good video
Brilliant ... what a difference from the Dulux paint at start up. It has given me confidence to do the same to my boat.
Do you strip the wax from gelcoat prior to sanding?
No mate . Just sand
Thanks a lot ! Great job
What steps do I need to do in applying the Gelcoat to able to actually sand and buff without any issues?
Have you seen my other video . How to gelcoat a boat
I was told that the final coat should be flowcoat not gelcoat as the additive in flowcoat makes it set on the surface where gelcoat remains tacky and difficult to sand?
It's topcoat/flowcoat I've used
Excellent video. Can you gelcoat over paint if you key the paint?
I don't see why not . Although your bond will only be as good as the bond between the paint . If the paint is on there solid it's worth a test patch
@@westcoastprojects01 I'll give it a go and let you know. Thanks for getting back to me 👍
that is pretty impressive from dry 600 to buffing/polish,
but becarefull dont go to fast and get to hot. and keep your sand paper clean.
i like to do this with a bit of spray water and then more water and do 1000 sanding.
but this guy know what he is doing and doing it fast.
Thank you, I was worried because my Gelcoat, which I'm currently applying, looked as rough as a badgers ass. I honestly thought I'd completely screwed it up.
A side note, my Erbauer DA, melted the backing pad with the friction, how did you avoid that happening?
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Hi’ lovely job. Did you put all three coats on the same thickness as a match box like you said.? Thanks
Hi there. Yeah all coats was the same thickness
Cheers fella. Much appreciated
@@westcoastprojects01 did you apply all 3 coats in one go while tacky and was wax in all coats. Thanks mate👍
@@damienduggan9060 I let mine set between coats and sanded each coat between . I was using topcoat so the additive was already in the mix
@@westcoastprojects01 thanks mate👍 I’ve painted a boat before using 2 part primer then 2 part epoxy and it came out well but thought topcoat being one product might be easier
excellent videos I will use this information thank you.
Hiya mate, Did you sand back in-between layers?
What gel coat
do you use please
What’s the difference between gel coating a boat and painting a boat ? I plan on doing my boat in a new colour but I’m confused
Gel coat is thick and hard. Paint is paper thin and doesn't last or look good for an external finish
Gelcoat is a lot more labour.
Paint is definitely a better finish and easier to maintain. Easier to repair.
Automotive Paints can look good on boats but are much less durable. They will scratch much easier, and chemicals like gasoline may lift/ruin your finish.
They painted my boat with gelcoat. I sanded with 120 before painting. 3 coats, now I’m into polishing I did wet sanding 600,800,1000. Still can see the scratches from the 120 over the new gelcoat. What you recommend? Think I should go lower than 600?
What did you re paint the boat with . Was it jelcoat or paint
If there is 3 coats of gelcoat over the 120 grit you shouldn't see any sanding marks threw that .
It was gelcoat. Not sure why I’m still seeing the marks from the 120.
It was with a painting gun, not with a roller. Maybe the guy that applied the paint didn’t spray it too thick
@@yusmanigarcia1016 are you sure it was gelcoat if he used a spray gun .