I’m m learning to play the game all over again. I don’t have much of a friend base since my return. Ty for the video. I am playing rogue completely blind. I am def going to try this out.
Welcome back! There is so much that’s changed and so much that feels the same. You’re welcome and if there is anything you want to know or are unsure of, just ask away and I will be happy to help :) I’ve got a few Rogue guides on here that strip it all all back to basics. From a general overview of Rogue to guides like this for both Hero specs. Give them a go and hopefully you will find what works for you. Thanks for the support friend!
I dont really understand did i have to use crismon tempest in 2v2 or its useless to use it for just one enemy ? Thanks for your guide , i dont speak enough english to understand everything but its will help me a lot 😊
Hey, that's no problem. Always happy to break things down. Think of it as - if 2 or more targets would get crimson applied who don't already have it, use it. If Crimson is already applied and no other bleeds need refreshed - use envenom. I hope this helps, but if not please let me know and I can try help :)
@@MasterDk4ever thanks! If you use BetterBlizzFrames, there is a dark mode in there. If not, it’s on Curse and honestly didn’t think I liked it at first - but it’s now something that feels odd not to have!
Thanks for the guide it’s really helpful. I have been using fatebound for a little while and it feels so much better that deathstalker. Think it’s easier to get the damage off or something. I seem to get way more kills and pressure with it.
It’s honestly such a nicer and simpler spec that gives us more control since we can spend our globals better. I’ve been playing about with it for about a week now and made much more progress with it also. I initially tried it, but just couldn’t get into the play style of Fate, but that’s because I was playing about trying to get the buffs from the coins. Now I realise they are good, but we shouldn’t play trying to align them. Glad you’re having a good experience with it also and it’s only a credit to it actually being better!
@@TheWeekend_Warrior yeah I just switched and didn’t think about anything, just played like I did in dragonflight and it seemed to work a lot better. Definitely got some good tips on things I can improve from your vid thanks!
Sub will see you well! Deathstalker Sub is strong atm and probably the best spec for objective gameplay. Has a lot more survivability compared to Assa also. I get Sub etc, I just don’t really like the play style sadly. I’m a dot/rot play style person. How are you getting on with it yourself?
@TheWeekend_Warrior initially it was overwhelming, but i figured it out. For example the use of like 69 cooldown skills, what to do out of stealth in 1v1s, bursting from stealth. i like the up front real time damage, found that when you can't rely on your team, dots is not the way to go. With real time abilities, you are more in control, with dots, you invest in slow over time damage, and that wasn't working in my favor trying to turn the tide of the battle
@propelproject 100%! The dots require teamwork where you rely on others with the upfront dmg or even just coordinated team play. I still play other classes, played Arms warrior for most of my time on WoW. But I find something about the dot classes / specs that just soothes my soul haha
@@David_loves_foods to avoid the cliche, if you were equally skilled on both, Sub in a lot of situations. I prefer Assa play style personally, sub is very repetitive to me and bores me. Also find that Assa in a 1v1 is also strong. I think 11.0.5 might push Sub to being very strong with some of the talent buffs in the rogue tree - but they will also benefit Assa. Which do you prefer?
Exactly the same here. The idea of a deathstalker sub rogue sounds amazing to me. But the play style of assa with the dot and rot style - wins me over every time.
Hey, I love watching your guides, but I always get confused when you are Explain how to do openers so if u can be kind and please type the opener in comments
Hey, thank you and I'm glad you're loving them! Sure I can, in the video I give an example of a single target opener by using the following: Cheap Shot Garrote Rupture Slice & Dice if you have Serrated bone spike Cheap shot again Garrote again will give you the extended duration on it At this point we would be looking to either would be deciding if we are going to burst or not. Can use Evasion / Cloak to stay aggressive, or vanish to let them rot a little more and move to other targets. Just be mindful that due to Cheap shot being used, Kidney shot will be impacted by diminishing returns. Obviously there is so many openers with Rogues depending on the situation. For example, if its a mage - open with garrote first as they can blink out of the initial cheap shot, but are silenced if you open with garrote. I'm going to start streaming on Twitch soon so people can see live what I do, but also to play a bit of a mix of classes with Rogue being the main ofc. But this will help with the live interaction and questions to be asked. Hope the above helps and always more than happy to answer questions :)
Completely get it tbh. For me, Deathstalker seems to fit better thematically. Even the talents seem to be better suited to Assa. But I cannot argue with the results I get with Fatebound
Amen to this! I think for me it feels lacklustre when it’s compared to Hero talents like Void Weaver, Dark Ranger etc. if the Rogue talents had a little flair to them other than the stupid visual of a coin - it would make me feel more satisfied.
"drop indiscriminate carnage" bro what are u even saying. Indiscrim is one of the best talents bc it lets u spread garrote easily for 3 second silence 8 second 15% damage done reduction on the applied enemy 50% bonus damage the garrote does as well. so much free dam and it applies for ur ruptures which having multiple of is huge damage and energy. Besides fatebound is worse than deathstalker.
I play it 99% of the time also. However if you prefer simple duels or focus on 1v1 etc, it’s useless. The extra damage on the garrote doesn’t come from the talent also. However I think I’m may be misreading your message slightly. If you prefer deathstalker and it’s working for you, that’s cool. If it’s not, there is fatebound and this is what the guide is about. Which is also recommended for Assassination by most R1 players. It just gives you a bit more wiggle room with openers. I assume you’re a rogue player and would assume you know different scenarios call for different tactics. Simply what the guide is for. The spec is RNG, however has yielded better results for me and for many other high rated assa rogues. Feel free to check the description for Both builds with and without indiscriminate carnage 😊
“You can drop indiscriminate carnage and take kingsbane if you want more single target damage, however, I use the one on screen now and not opt to take kingsbane in favor of indiscriminate carnage.” Selective hearing.
Amazing work man, keep it up. Your videos will be in recommended soon
@@rayrivera5793 Thank you for the kind words and support! Appreciate you, bro!
I’m m learning to play the game all over again. I don’t have much of a friend base since my return. Ty for the video. I am playing rogue completely blind. I am def going to try this out.
Welcome back! There is so much that’s changed and so much that feels the same. You’re welcome and if there is anything you want to know or are unsure of, just ask away and I will be happy to help :) I’ve got a few Rogue guides on here that strip it all all back to basics. From a general overview of Rogue to guides like this for both Hero specs. Give them a go and hopefully you will find what works for you.
Thanks for the support friend!
Keep going on man. Your videos are so helpful.
Glad you like them! Thank you for the support 😊
Love to seee the Rogue Content man Keep it up ❤
Glad you are enjoying it!
I dont really understand did i have to use crismon tempest in 2v2 or its useless to use it for just one enemy ? Thanks for your guide , i dont speak enough english to understand everything but its will help me a lot 😊
Hey, that's no problem. Always happy to break things down. Think of it as - if 2 or more targets would get crimson applied who don't already have it, use it. If Crimson is already applied and no other bleeds need refreshed - use envenom.
I hope this helps, but if not please let me know and I can try help :)
Nice gameplay bro, whats your addon skin for dark mode please?
@@MasterDk4ever thanks! If you use BetterBlizzFrames, there is a dark mode in there. If not, it’s on Curse and honestly didn’t think I liked it at first - but it’s now something that feels odd not to have!
Thanks for the guide it’s really helpful. I have been using fatebound for a little while and it feels so much better that deathstalker.
Think it’s easier to get the damage off or something. I seem to get way more kills and pressure with it.
It’s honestly such a nicer and simpler spec that gives us more control since we can spend our globals better. I’ve been playing about with it for about a week now and made much more progress with it also. I initially tried it, but just couldn’t get into the play style of Fate, but that’s because I was playing about trying to get the buffs from the coins. Now I realise they are good, but we shouldn’t play trying to align them.
Glad you’re having a good experience with it also and it’s only a credit to it actually being better!
@@TheWeekend_Warrior yeah I just switched and didn’t think about anything, just played like I did in dragonflight and it seemed to work a lot better.
Definitely got some good tips on things I can improve from your vid thanks!
@richiem6682 that is exactly it! It feel like Dragonflight S4 but just a bit better.
Good info
Thank you ❤️
I went back to subtlety, i finally figured out how to play it. I guess my spec is a flip of a coin LOL
Sub will see you well! Deathstalker Sub is strong atm and probably the best spec for objective gameplay. Has a lot more survivability compared to Assa also.
I get Sub etc, I just don’t really like the play style sadly. I’m a dot/rot play style person.
How are you getting on with it yourself?
@TheWeekend_Warrior initially it was overwhelming, but i figured it out. For example the use of like 69 cooldown skills, what to do out of stealth in 1v1s, bursting from stealth. i like the up front real time damage, found that when you can't rely on your team, dots is not the way to go. With real time abilities, you are more in control, with dots, you invest in slow over time damage, and that wasn't working in my favor trying to turn the tide of the battle
@propelproject 100%! The dots require teamwork where you rely on others with the upfront dmg or even just coordinated team play. I still play other classes, played Arms warrior for most of my time on WoW. But I find something about the dot classes / specs that just soothes my soul haha
@TheWeekend_Warrior the pvp gameplay is so high paced right now, the bursts are the blink of an eye
I do have evidence of that for some footage haha. Had 2 fury warrs and an MM all target me and was dead in less than 1 second haha
between Sub and Ass which one if you only focus Single target combat
@@David_loves_foods to avoid the cliche, if you were equally skilled on both, Sub in a lot of situations.
I prefer Assa play style personally, sub is very repetitive to me and bores me. Also find that Assa in a 1v1 is also strong. I think 11.0.5 might push Sub to being very strong with some of the talent buffs in the rogue tree - but they will also benefit Assa.
Which do you prefer?
@TheWeekend_Warrior I love the sub fantasy but was always a fan of poison dot Assassin
Exactly the same here. The idea of a deathstalker sub rogue sounds amazing to me. But the play style of assa with the dot and rot style - wins me over every time.
Hey, I love watching your guides, but I always get confused when you are Explain how to do openers so if u can be kind and please type the opener in comments
Hey, thank you and I'm glad you're loving them! Sure I can, in the video I give an example of a single target opener by using the following:
Cheap Shot
Garrote
Rupture
Slice & Dice if you have Serrated bone spike
Cheap shot again
Garrote again will give you the extended duration on it
At this point we would be looking to either would be deciding if we are going to burst or not. Can use Evasion / Cloak to stay aggressive, or vanish to let them rot a little more and move to other targets. Just be mindful that due to Cheap shot being used, Kidney shot will be impacted by diminishing returns. Obviously there is so many openers with Rogues depending on the situation. For example, if its a mage - open with garrote first as they can blink out of the initial cheap shot, but are silenced if you open with garrote.
I'm going to start streaming on Twitch soon so people can see live what I do, but also to play a bit of a mix of classes with Rogue being the main ofc. But this will help with the live interaction and questions to be asked.
Hope the above helps and always more than happy to answer questions :)
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I feel fatebound feels kinda meh compare to deathstalker idk
Completely get it tbh. For me, Deathstalker seems to fit better thematically. Even the talents seem to be better suited to Assa. But I cannot argue with the results I get with Fatebound
They both feel meh tbh... i dislike most hero talents.. but i get overall better results with fatebound, + i hate using ambush 😂
Amen to this! I think for me it feels lacklustre when it’s compared to Hero talents like Void Weaver, Dark Ranger etc. if the Rogue talents had a little flair to them other than the stupid visual of a coin - it would make me feel more satisfied.
"drop indiscriminate carnage" bro what are u even saying. Indiscrim is one of the best talents bc it lets u spread garrote easily for 3 second silence 8 second 15% damage done reduction on the applied enemy 50% bonus damage the garrote does as well. so much free dam and it applies for ur ruptures which having multiple of is huge damage and energy. Besides fatebound is worse than deathstalker.
I play it 99% of the time also. However if you prefer simple duels or focus on 1v1 etc, it’s useless. The extra damage on the garrote doesn’t come from the talent also. However I think I’m may be misreading your message slightly.
If you prefer deathstalker and it’s working for you, that’s cool. If it’s not, there is fatebound and this is what the guide is about. Which is also recommended for Assassination by most R1 players. It just gives you a bit more wiggle room with openers.
I assume you’re a rogue player and would assume you know different scenarios call for different tactics. Simply what the guide is for. The spec is RNG, however has yielded better results for me and for many other high rated assa rogues.
Feel free to check the description for Both builds with and without indiscriminate carnage 😊
“You can drop indiscriminate carnage and take kingsbane if you want more single target damage, however, I use the one on screen now and not opt to take kingsbane in favor of indiscriminate carnage.”
Selective hearing.