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I was never in the friendzone for the reason I make my intentions clear early on. Never accept to be their friend, you gain nothing. If you enter the friendzone she will ask you for favors and use you for her own benefit while you gain nothing. And once you are no use for her I assure you she will cut you off, this is the female solipsism for you. If she doesnt give sex to you there is absolutely no reason to invest your valuable time. Dont involve yourself with women that are not willing to do sex with you. By being their friend you are actually one of their girlfriends. Huge time and energy wasting. Women as friends are a big joke compare to men friends. Male friendship is priceless. Those are the male truth bombs. We want youth, beauty and sex from a variety of women. A woman friend will never be loyal on your friendship. Never. Their hypergamy and solipsism skip men faster than you will ever imagine. You can protect yourself by never pick a woman by a place of scarcity, but from a place of abudance, meaning that you should always pursue more women, having more options to choose, options, options, NEVER focus on 1 girl. Even if you get the girl you like NEVER let your guard down and always talk to other women as well. It doesnt have to be sexual, just keep them around (spin plates) and meet more and more while you keep the girl you deemed worthy of your time. She will feel that competition anxiety deep in her and she will try to push your comfort zone every day to turn you into a beta. Keep your frame intact at all cost, the shit testing will be relentless, its a tough game out there brothers and I promise you anyone can change their circumstances if they are truthfuly willing to change. Dont let past failures limit your potential, continue to fight and be the man you are proud of. You are the prize.
I got friendzoned after a few 10-15 sec conversations and being added on social media (she added me) and she said she didn't want to lead me on and I never even asked her out. I didn't beg her. I didn't chase her but we are in the same social circle. Maybe I didn't show intent or who knows.
I always ask if she has single friends lmao and they usually ask why i would even ask that. Well obviously since you're off the market then i figure your friends would be a better use of my time. I've actually had chicks take this and go out with me again. otherwise i just ditch them entirely
@dave4248 You're half correct...…….being seen in the company of another (attractive) woman or women is pre-selection (in her mind). The 2 problems are: 1) A HUGE percentage of women spend the bulk of their time with the guy(s) they're fucking. She miiiiiiiiiight gab on the phone with him, but not very likely to hang out with him. 2) I have never met a guy who was introduced to an ATTRACTIVE woman, by his female 'friend'. Women aren't that stupid. She ain't gonna help you to take away her free attention AND she ain't gonna' get rid of her 4th string QB. If ALL else fails, and nothing works out with the 5 or 10 guys she wants, then, she miiiiiiiiiiiiight let him sniff it.
@Shaun A this is how we do it. And that first chick will eventually chase after you because you will become more sexually attractive to her. Both chicks banged. What's better than that. Maybe a friend of that friend? 🤔😀
Advice to the fellow: forget about women for now and focus on improving your health. Lose weight, eat healthy, get better sleep, exercise and be the best you can be. As a student doctor, get on track with your studies and job opportunities.
Very good advice. That is what I did long ago when I was overweight and tired of living. That alone gave me a crazy alpha attitude and I got laid a lot, with women pursuing me, because I didn't give a shit about them. I was focused on my goals.
Agreed, she has already put you in the "friend zone box", it's very difficult to get out of this from this woman specifically. Almost always not worth a man's time, on to the next one.
*This brother needs to get his own sh|t together before worrying about women.* His mental strength is in the gutter and I would start by working on self-esteem and physical health. This won't change over som week. Give yourself time.
Yeah, trying to attract any women (let alone the girl of your dreams) while you're not anywhere near being your best self is a recipe for disaster. Trust me, I know from personal experience, lmao. The better of a man I've become, the less desperate I've been for women -- and the more women have been attracted to me. It's really not rocket science. Just focus on being the best version of yourself you can be, and women will come naturally especially the more comfortable you feel about yourself.
@@brandondaniels9471 This is very true. I get more attention from women, since I started concentrating on myself. If you look desperate, you will find it hard to attract anyone.
I took out a girl from school to the sushi bar and we had a great time. I took her back home and she hugged me and kissed me after I walked her to her door. She said " think we'll be great friends." I told her that I wasn't interested in being her friend. I told her I was much more interested than that. She said she wasn't looking for that with me. I never gave her the time of day again and she texts me from time to time to this day. I have not answered her and her texts get meaner and meaner.
1. Health / Muscles 2. Purpose (leads to money & status) 3. Quality woman If 1 and 2 aren't on track, forget about 3. If you put women first, you'll always lose in life.
" She wasn't emotionally available for another relationship yet" ...short time after banging his friend....women will break the rules for the Alpha that they make for the Beta....
That’s not really how this works. She is just lying to him. That’s her way of saying, “I don’t find you attractive,” and she wants to keep you in the friend zone. Women are always available for a relationship with a man of value.
I was once dumped after 3 years and put in the friend zone. She said “I hope we can be like best friends”....My reply was “In the exact same way that I wasn’t good enough to be your man, you aren’t even close to being good enough to be my friend”..then I went no contact forever. She couldn’t believe it and begged for me back. But when I make a choice I stick by it, no I never looked back. 💪🏻
Any time a woman has placed me in the friend zone, I placed myself in the former acquaintance zone. If you ever manage to get yourself out of the friendzone, she is settling and it is only a matter of time till she hates you for it. If she puts you on the back burner, you will never be the main dish.
@@Kaz.2719 Kaz I was as deep into the abyss as the guy in this video and pulled. Myself out. You know what? The guy is right, gym and putting yourself out there was the best thing I ever did. Oh and discovering red pill
It is easy. View your friendzoning for what it really is, namely a rejection of you by her. She has rejected you. Accept that immediately. Then break off contact. And move on to better and more satisfying prospects. Do not let her back in. She had her chance and made her choice. Now make yours. There is no oneZ
My husband was a master on this, We were friends but he say to me "I don't want to be your friend, I want everything or nothing so this is our last conversation" and that was it
@@netfischer it wasn't our last conversation, We are married. We have being together for almost 16 years now. When that happened I was calling him all day and night bc I really like him.
"You need support after a death in the family".. Women dont care about your feels .. They talk about wanting a guy with feelings.. They want Chad to have feelings.. My biggest mistake with a women was to show her my pain after my brother passed .. Sad but true..
The last girl I dated, she tried to put me in her friend zone. I told her I wasn't interested in having a platonic relationship with her and she went no contact with me. This was very heartbreaking for me because I truly feelings for her, I even was ignorantly blissful at the time, thinking that she could be "The One". Me like a lot of us, I never grew up in a loving family, so I never had a level playing field in regards to learing about emotional maturity. My emotional immaturity has lead me down the path of having a pathetic love life, and life long bachelorism.
Man, the cure for that is clubbing, banging and dumping. Once you you got laid a lot and learned more about women, you will stop worshipping them or seeing them as special. If you have no game, just go for it without minding the rejections. It's better to go clubbing with really good buddies, the kind you have fun with and can be natural with them. Then you will oberflow confidence, and when women in a club see you are having fun with your people, they will flock to you. Like dogs, they go to where the fun is.
I got friend zoned by a woman at work. I still remember how painful it was when I realised she was banging some other jerk when I thought there was something developing between us. It's really difficult when you still have see her everyday at work. I distanced my self from her, but still I wasn't over her. Eventually after months, I internalized all her lies, and I got angry with her. Really angry! I told her what a lying cow she was, and told her she could fuck off. And boom, like that, I was over her. This was the start of my red pill journey. 2.5 years later, I've now been trough my first ltr, survived to tell the tail, and I currently have 2 plates spinning.
I was in the friendzone for 3 years. She finally wanted to date, but I had already mentally moved past looking at her romantically. After a little pushing from her, I decided to give it a chance. It never felt right. I backed off. She questioned, and when I told her it wasn't working after she asked what was going on, I was called an a-hole and blocked on all social media accounts. Getting out of the friend zone isn't worth it. It's not what you expect, and it won't end well.
I had a fwb who during pillow talk would tell me about her male friend that her and her friends loved to go out with, because he would buy them drinks and when they needed to move they would call him as well. They would laugh behind his back because he never got any sex from any of them. Don't get friend zone.
I feel sorry for the guy, we have all been there a time or two. Also men need to realize time easily spent is time easily lost, and they'll never get that back. Time is VALUABLE; and the time he has spent working on attempting to be with this person, he could've been spending it on fixing himself. The advice from the video is priceless, great advice. I wish I could've had advice like this in my twenties.
Don't waste time trying to get out of the friend zone. Just walk away and don't be a friend to any of them. When you are not a friend, and when you do not care for their attention one tiny bit, suddenly they will not allow you to be alone.
One of the things I love about your videos and statements is you focus on the guys themselves and try to fix things from within (which is the fundamental requirement to become a better version of yourself) rather, focusing on women and try to analyze or judge their thoughts and actions, as a matter of the fact, you always respect women for what they do and what they are (i.e. "she is a single mom and her children are her priority which they should be, she is their mom") The fact that a guy (in my opinion anyone) needs to be held accountable for what he is going through in his life should be a lesson that everyone should learn regardless of their gender Best of luck to you
Without redpilling RUclips videos, my generation had to guess and experience how women behave, how they think, love and play games. Now, with all information out there, it doesn't take a lot of IQ to just make a simple search. But knowing about hypergamy and the female nature is just a part of the whole picture. Richard Cooper is the guy who could have spared me years of grief and shitty experiences beyond imagination if he had been around in the 90's. But I have to blame myself too: it took me a long time to make the steps which are needed for a great life as a man in his fourties. Everything will come around and one day you will be proud of what you have become and how so many of your dreams came true.
I constantly got put in the friend zone by women because I lacked an abundance mindset was 100% blue pill. I was given a copy of the rational male (no plug) and began to live by red pill principles. I lost weight, put on muscle, got my finances in order and developed an abundance mindset. biggest key for me was being my own mental point of origin, operating in my frame and deciphering the medium in the message when listening to what women were saying. These things have helped me avoid the friend zone with women
My friend was on antidepressents (lamictal)(zeldox)for 2 years but it never helped him it had side effects like him gaining weight etc about 2 years ago he decided to taper off of these medications and start weightlifting he now has a sixpack with a v line and is the happiest ive ever seen him
Great points Rich but I would also tell him in 3-5 years, he'll be a practicing physician, easily making six figures and in his peak SMV. Which means he'll get the last laugh to all the women who friend-zoned him.
Hes needs a different field. Those female nurses will drive you crazy and turn you into a woman. My health has been a lot better since if left the medical field.
I would in this order: -Own the fact that your values and actual belief system put you in this holes -Change your diet cut the junk food and everything soy related. Also the meds. If you don't have any medical conditions look into IF. - Then pick up heavy stuff like Rich said. Time to focus on yourself and turn it around
How to get out of the Friend Zone? Don't put yourself there to begin with. Only spend time as friends with people (both men and women) who you are happy being friends with. If an individual is someone you can't appreciate friendship with without wanting something else, do both of you a favour and move on. Also, if you're finding yourself swooning for someone who doesn't reciprocate, start working on yourself; you obviously don't see yourself as deserving or worth enough if you don't find those feelings naturally fading quickly when you discover they aren't reciprocated.
Bro, this is eye-opening. This guy is me in high school. Thank God for the hard lessons in the past and for this guy to make me understand what I did wrong.
When she tries to put you in the friend zone you just reject the offer. Just say "No I'm not interested in that." Then she will know you are the one controlling the situation and not her. Also cut all contact with her if you can. Then ask someone else out.
Dude ive stopped chasing them ladies and taking care of myself . For a month now. Its like ive reached the light at the end of a tunnel Life had never been great. Now im the one being chased and its great being able to choose what i want when i want Keep up the great work i apreciate it
Friends zone? Fugget about it. The "Let's just be friends" cliche is basically a middle finger and it's best to move on and not waste your time pursuing a dead end. Personally, I'd prefer a more honest response like "I'm not into to you." Move on if you get the LJBF line.
Whatever is happening, just be sure to live your life, you only get one life. If she doesn't want you, she just doesn't, and it's time to move on. There are plenty of girls out there to choose from.
Just wanted to add that grad school is extremely difficult from a psychological standpoint. There are multiple anecdotes and peer-reviewed studies confirming this. For me personally, by the time I got out of grad school I was completely fried. If it were me being asked I'd say seeking love or relationships at this point is going to be too much. Fill your fridge up with healthy food, walk everywhere you can, and focus like a laser on your studies and job search. There'll be plenty of time to do everything else once school is done, and you'll be able to do it well. Grad school and career at this point are more than enough.
How to avoid the friend zone? Don’t be ugly. It also helps if you are not poor, and/or you are high on the social totem pole (I.E.: not a mere middle manager, but upper level).
haven't watched this yet, but I'll share my comment anyway. sorry if it's a repeat of what you said, Rich. If you want to get out of the friend zone, you have to be willing to let her go. Permanently. You're in the friend zone because she thinks she can keep you as an orbiter and that she can push you around. Put your foot down. You don't need to turn it into a passive-aggressive "you won't have sex with me so I'm taking my toys and going home" thing. don't make a scene. JUST GO. And be glad you saved yourself the trouble of dealing with her in a relationship.
Correct. She’ll get pissy, but if you stand your ground, state you’re not interested in being friends, she’ll feel your strength which will actually make her feel some respect and attraction for you. The quickest way to get someone’s attention is to remove yours. You’ll stand the best chance of getting her back... if, that’s what you want.
I find if you are "friends" with a woman that doesn't want anymore than that let her see you with another attractive woman and watch her interest in you change. Women are very competitive and it clicks in another woman see something in you. Works quite often.
Arrrg you have covered this situation many times! Why do people only listen to you Rich if you talk to them about their exact situation...when it is exactly the same as the other stories! Your sir a very patient teacher.
I went swimming with a girl a few months ago. After sex she told me she didn’t want to “friend zone” me after she saw me with out a shirt. Working out will help you in a way you can not imagine until you get it. Do the work! You’ll have fun!
I like being in the friend zone with women. That way they let their hair down and show me what they really think. And I get to know if they are manipulative or deceptive. And when I find the right one, I start doing things that will make her think about me in a loving way.
A girl I've been lightly chasing at my company for a year blew me in the front seat of her car after a company social. What did I do different in the last 30 days?...........treated her and every other woman in the office like crap. No validation, no conversation, no attention, no anything.......BINGO, IMMEDIATE attraction!........women are weird, it's actually pathetic. The whole time in the front seat I'm thinking I Won, you lost!
Women don't put men in the friendzone, men put themselves there. The woman will stick around as long as you're giving them attention they don't have to reciprocate. It's taken me my lifetime to figure that out.
There’s 3 ways you’re in the FZ! A) She saw you and simply put you in the friend zone category. B) You started a sexual chemistry with her but you lost frame n started turning beta and she put you in the FZ C) You went the FZ route in the first place
You will have more confidence and become more attractive to woman by getting yourself in shape physically and mentally. A starting point is getting the weight off---I did it and you can do it----it makes a big difference in how people view you and how you view yourself. Work on yourself before chasing women.
I don't understand this friendzone stuff. Women can't put men anywhere. Guys put themselves on the friendzone when they keep hope after being rejected. It is a self-imposed situation. If a woman rejected you, be friends with her if you may, but give up on her romanticaly and don't go out of your way to please her because she "might change her mind" or "finaly see the great guy you are". Women are oblivous to how good you are or what you feel for her, they only care about what they want and will only be pleased with men that have the qualities or resources she wants to get. The amount of women I've seen go for guys that match their superficial type just to bitch about them endlessly is no joke. They don't know what they want and I'm not interested in discovering. They are dumb as fuck and are in no position to validade you as a person.
It's taken me a while to realize that, but you're spot on. A woman doesn't friendzone a man, a man friendzone's himself. He gives the woman the initiative to "come around", but does that by his own free will.
Was in a long term relationship from 2010 until 2017. Dumped her and immediately started dating women who came onto me. Clueless as hell! I thought that if I tried to let her see I'd make a good boyfriend she'd find me sexually attractive and I'd get laid. LOL After 7 boring "nice guy" dinner dates she rejected me with a text that read "I'll text U another day". I never contacted her again. But caught oneitis. It took lots of education and WORK mental and physical to over come that crap and update my thinking. Thank you Richard! Big brother I never had.
WAIT until you finish med school and residency/fellowship. Once you start making money as a doctor and improve yourself women will come along. You can never lose women chasing money.
I was this poor dude when I was 20 years old, I hit rock bottom. But I studied and mastered David DeAngelo material and turned things around in my favor. I look back and thanked the girl who broke my heart but taught me a very good lesson.
Hey man, Rich is right. You're super young. You have a lot of potential and if you're studying to be a doctor you obviously have smarts to go along with it. I had trouble with an LTR and had a absolutely destructive case of oneitis just a couple months ago, so I'll do my best to help you out here. For me, I'm a college kid and recently just got attractive because I started to take care of myself. Dated a girl for a few months, she broke up with me when I flew out to visit her and I put myself in the friend zone afterward by saying that I wanted to be FWB. Fast fowards, she manipulated me and destroyed my self-confidence eventually leaving. I can get into it more, but just know I've been there done that. Dedicate time to work on yourself. Be in solitude. Lose the meds, the weight, and the previous mentality that you had. It's all crucial to re-establishing who you are as a person. Make sure that your priority in life is your success and your dreams. Understand that life sucks for everyone, but we need to get over it and work through it. Power through and keep yourself as first priority. Invest into thhis you enjoy in your free time. Hobbies you had from years past or anything that spurs your interests. Politics, motorcycles, you name it. Just have some productive stuff that you can use to reinvent yourself. This will be essential because the more you devote to the promotion to your own life, the more women will come to you as a result. You eventually might find yourself turning down women. From my experience, after I started working like crazy on myself, my attention with women absolutely skyrocketed. Remember, that the only person in life that will be with you till you die is yourself. Don't let the external world shape who you are. Take advice, but meditate and create your own truth based on what you see, both factual and opinionated. Also, read a shit ton of philosophy. I like nietzsche, jung and peterson as a start. Good luck brother. May the transformation begin.
Workout in the morning, 2 hours after waking up, chug some coffee too, then go kill it. Working out at the end of the day NEVER works for me, I'm too tired (I'm 50) ..also, do a 2 week fresh press juice FAST, this will reset many things in your body (see John Rose videos).
Grandpa's Swapmeet, how long have you been doing the juice fast? I turn 40 this November and I seriously need to retool my lifestyle regarding diet and exercise. Juice fasting is an option I’ve had on my mind, I just want to do it correctly. I’m not overweight; I’ve actually lost ten pounds in the past couple of months but it’s due mainly to calorie deficit and work related stress. That and I’ve made drastic cuts in my beer drinking. This was very painful but I bit the bullet. Still, I’m feeling the decline in energy but what really scares me is a decline in cognitive ability at work. I know I need to sort myself out. I see you work out two hours after waking up, am I reading that correctly?
Exceptional video. I've been struggling with a version of this problem. I've been broken up with my ex-fiance for three years now. I've dated more than a dozen women in that time but I keep comparing them to her and oddly kinda end up resenting them for not being more like her. I feel like it's not fair to date more women until I can get this one out of my head. She only had sex with one guy in those three years and, of course, he just used her. In fact, she hadn't had sex for four years before we met (single mom focusing on her son). She also had sex with me once about a year ago when we both got really drunk together. Bottom line is that she's not a good partner for me because I'm very active and success-oriented and she's not. but I love her feminine personality, her tight little body, her natural beauty, and we have a great time together. When we were together the sex was the best of my life and I've been with a lot of women. It's bizarre to me that a woman that is so amazing in the sack goes years without having sex. She even agrees that the sex was amazing with me but thinks that would complicate her life. She's pretty much decided that she's going to be single for the rest of her life. I've been there for her emotionally and helped her with different things in her life... but I'm deep in the friend zone at this point. Sooo.... I'm off to the gym now... and I've been thinking about starting up Judo again... with your advice to that guy I'm going to join up today. Also going to work that much harder to build my digital agency. Thanks for the great advice you gave that guy... because you gave it to me too.
1. The suicidal ideation worries me. You need to talk to a psychiatrist who can adjust your medications and get you into counselling to deal with the suicidal thoughts. A lot of this comes from being in a high stress field where you are working long hours. 2. You are a doctor. You are sitting in the cat bird's seat. You are/will be working in hospitals where every nurse wants to marry a doctor. You do not get a higher sexual market value in anything other than being a doctor. Any woman who would not be interested in marrying a doctor is brain damaged and you don't want her. 3. Forget this girl. She is using you. She will continue to use you for as long as you let her. (Been there, done that.) You need to put distance between you and her. This is hard when you are working together or are in the same program. But you will not have any peace until she is out of your life for good. This may mean transferring to another hospital and eventually moving to another city -- the geographical cure for oneitis works wonders. At the very least ghost her. If she wants to talk to you, you are too busy and will get back to her later. 4. As a doctor, you are in a better position to evaluate your weight problem than anyone here. Lifting weights builds muscle, but aerobics burns fat. You should be making enough money to hire a personal trainer; having a personal trainer with a scheduled time forces you to work out regularly, whether you feel like doing it or not. A personal trainer will help you lose lots of weight (been there, done that). Riding a bike or walking on a treadmill an hour a day or so can work wonders.
Why would you want a women who put you in the friend zone in the 1st place. But there are alot of guys that have no respect for themselves thinking women are the prize when it men who are.
Wish I could see a picture of this supposedly amazing unicorn. In my experiences (my own and others) we sometimes fall head over heels for someone that’s probably not even worth it on many levels. I went through a similar situation but it was more a barrage of smaller friend zones and rejections that made me suicidal, at a later age. Somehow I got lucky you get being unskilled with women and all. My suggestion to the guy, if he needs no one in general, to press the nuke button, disconnect, isolate, keep contact only with family and maybe best friend. Some might say that it’s unhealthy but it did a hard reset on me, the afterwards gaining back slowly the right amount of commitment with people in general that doesn’t become a burden and by extension falling in those oneitis conundrums. When an equilibrium is formed at least I think twice before adding someone more to my world.
Never trust a girl's excuse ...because it's an excuse 🙄 for god sake.. Each and every man should note this " I am getting out of a bad relationship...drug addict etc...etc."..like she told him in his face that she doesn't like him.. Just get out of this societal conditioning of true love bs
I don't think this guy was ever really in the friend zone. She invited him to Thanksgiving dinner. She made out with him. Clearly she was very interested and wanted him to be more than a friend. It sounds like he just completely failed to ever make a move or ask her to be in a relationship. That's what killed it.
Holy shit...reading these letters from these poor forlorn men is painful to hear. I was put in the friend zone a few times when I was very young and had very little experience with women. Once I became "tuned in" or was red pilled (before that was even a thing) I made it a point to make my desire of her known. If the vibe was not reciprocated I moved on. This is one of the first steps a young man takes going from a beta to an alpha. I haven't been put in the friend zone since my teens simply because I don't allow it. There is nothing more awful and pathetic to watch than a beta who is clearly a "girlfriend" of a woman he is attracted to and continuing down this path with the thought that he will eventually "triumph in the end".
Two things if one uses in his life can never be mislead: 1- watch actions, not words, and it will show you what a person is. 2- if you do something, it produces bad or no results,,, change your behavior. If you combine the above two, you will be guided to happiness. No confusion and no misleading.
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stopped at 44 seconds... if she doesn't actually play any musical instrument that dude shouldn't even be talking to her
I was never in the friendzone for the reason I make my intentions clear early on.
Never accept to be their friend, you gain nothing. If you enter the friendzone she will ask you for favors and use you for her own benefit while you gain nothing. And once you are no use for her I assure you she will cut you off, this is the female solipsism for you.
If she doesnt give sex to you there is absolutely no reason to invest your valuable time. Dont involve yourself with women that are not willing to do sex with you.
By being their friend you are actually one of their girlfriends. Huge time and energy wasting. Women as friends are a big joke compare to men friends. Male friendship is priceless.
Those are the male truth bombs. We want youth, beauty and sex from a variety of women. A woman friend will never be loyal on your friendship. Never. Their hypergamy and solipsism skip men faster than you will ever imagine.
You can protect yourself by never pick a woman by a place of scarcity, but from a place of abudance, meaning that you should always pursue more women, having more options to choose, options, options, NEVER focus on 1 girl.
Even if you get the girl you like NEVER let your guard down and always talk to other women as well. It doesnt have to be sexual, just keep them around (spin plates) and meet more and more while you keep the girl you deemed worthy of your time. She will feel that competition anxiety deep in her and she will try to push your comfort zone every day to turn you into a beta.
Keep your frame intact at all cost, the shit testing will be relentless, its a tough game out there brothers and I promise you anyone can change their circumstances if they are truthfuly willing to change. Dont let past failures limit your potential, continue to fight and be the man you are proud of. You are the prize.
I was actually shocked when you got to the part where he said "I still didn't have sex with her".. my jaw actually dropped.
You need money to get out of the friend zone.
I got friendzoned after a few 10-15 sec conversations and being added on social media (she added me) and she said she didn't want to lead me on and I never even asked her out. I didn't beg her. I didn't chase her but we are in the same social circle. Maybe I didn't show intent or who knows.
Learned the hard way. If any woman says “you’re a great friend”; eject and deny them your attention.
Yep, Ditch the relationship altogether and move on, leave her alone, forever.
Friend zoned guys are there to provide attention while they are riding the cock carousel.
dave4248 noted
I always ask if she has single friends lmao and they usually ask why i would even ask that. Well obviously since you're off the market then i figure your friends would be a better use of my time. I've actually had chicks take this and go out with me again. otherwise i just ditch them entirely
@dave4248 You're half correct...…….being seen in the company of another (attractive) woman or women is pre-selection (in her mind). The 2 problems are: 1) A HUGE percentage of women spend the bulk of their time with the guy(s) they're fucking. She miiiiiiiiiight gab on the phone with him, but not very likely to hang out with him. 2) I have never met a guy who was introduced to an ATTRACTIVE woman, by his female 'friend'. Women aren't that stupid. She ain't gonna help you to take away her free attention AND she ain't gonna' get rid of her 4th string QB. If ALL else fails, and nothing works out with the 5 or 10 guys she wants, then, she miiiiiiiiiiiiight let him sniff it.
If a girl ever friendzones you just let her go ( go full no contact ) and look for other women. Why torture yourself by being friends?
Well, a female friend can be a great source of red pills.
Just observe her and learn..
openly date other women in front of her
she will chase you ASAP
@Shaun A this is how we do it. And that first chick will eventually chase after you because you will become more sexually attractive to her. Both chicks banged. What's better than that. Maybe a friend of that friend? 🤔😀
Exactly
I’m not looking for new friends. Not taking any applications. Ha
Friend zone is her saying “You are good enough to be my emotional tampon but not good enough to sleep with me”
On an even deeper level she's saying "Your genes aren't worthy of reproduction and they deserve to join you in your grave when you die."
I slept with a girl about 25 times and she still friendzoned me, or atleast tried to but i declined
Advice to the fellow: forget about women for now and focus on improving your health. Lose weight, eat healthy, get better sleep, exercise and be the best you can be. As a student doctor, get on track with your studies and job opportunities.
That's exactly what I was thinking.
Agreed. Only 30 years old. Plenty of time to turn this franchise around.
Focus on becoming the best version of yourself...
Very good advice. That is what I did long ago when I was overweight and tired of living.
That alone gave me a crazy alpha attitude and I got laid a lot, with women pursuing me, because I didn't give a shit about them. I was focused on my goals.
I’m a lady and I couldn’t agree more.
Woman who keeps u in the frienzone are the same woman who sees u as a back up plan or second choice.move on and find someone who prioritize u
At that point you are just a utility kept waiting.
Agreed, she has already put you in the "friend zone box", it's very difficult to get out of this from this woman specifically. Almost always not worth a man's time, on to the next one.
No flakes, and only give your time to those who give you theirs.
Or even plan Z. In other words, if all else fails at least I have THIS guy.
Not even. She just wants the attention and validation from knowing that someone wants her.
*This brother needs to get his own sh|t together before worrying about women.*
His mental strength is in the gutter and I would start by working on self-esteem and physical health.
This won't change over som week. Give yourself time.
@Natural Man Yes, I'd say it's even more important.
Well said!
Yeah, trying to attract any women (let alone the girl of your dreams) while you're not anywhere near being your best self is a recipe for disaster. Trust me, I know from personal experience, lmao. The better of a man I've become, the less desperate I've been for women -- and the more women have been attracted to me. It's really not rocket science. Just focus on being the best version of yourself you can be, and women will come naturally especially the more comfortable you feel about yourself.
@@brandondaniels9471 This is very true. I get more attention from women, since I started concentrating on myself. If you look desperate, you will find it hard to attract anyone.
Yes, working on yourself is the best you can do.
How to get out of the Friend Zone? Don´t get in one, simple
yes xD
That's how to prevent it...stop being friendly is how to get out of it
Real Advice, no need not to be friendly. Either fuck them, or don't hang around. In both situations you can be friendly.
I took out a girl from school to the sushi bar and we had a great time. I took her back home and she hugged me and kissed me after I walked her to her door. She said " think we'll be great friends." I told her that I wasn't interested in being her friend. I told her I was much more interested than that. She said she wasn't looking for that with me. I never gave her the time of day again and she texts me from time to time to this day. I have not answered her and her texts get meaner and meaner.
@@thedevilsadvocate3710 Good job man 👍
1. Health / Muscles
2. Purpose (leads to money & status)
3. Quality woman
If 1 and 2 aren't on track, forget about 3. If you put women first, you'll always lose in life.
Plus money
" She wasn't emotionally available for another relationship yet" ...short time after banging his friend....women will break the rules for the Alpha that they make for the Beta....
Bien dicho.
Hell yeah lol
That’s not really how this works. She is just lying to him. That’s her way of saying, “I don’t find you attractive,” and she wants to keep you in the friend zone. Women are always available for a relationship with a man of value.
ghost and move on, I've enough friends
He is way too invested in this girl. With no return on investment.
I was once dumped after 3 years and put in the friend zone. She said “I hope we can be like best friends”....My reply was “In the exact same way that I wasn’t good enough to be your man, you aren’t even close to being good enough to be my friend”..then I went no contact forever.
She couldn’t believe it and begged for me back. But when I make a choice I stick by it, no I never looked back. 💪🏻
Women can be such treacherous creatures, playing with men's feelings and lives with no regard to the consequences.
@@danielhartin7680 Women are the Queen of Betrayal tho
You're a Sigma Gigachad and Top G
At that point she was only worthy of your silence.
Alpha response mate
Any time a woman has placed me in the friend zone, I placed myself in the former acquaintance zone. If you ever manage to get yourself out of the friendzone, she is settling and it is only a matter of time till she hates you for it. If she puts you on the back burner, you will never be the main dish.
When she says let’s just be friends, I whisper in her ears “with benefits”. They always laugh at that but trust me, it works.
When I find out someone is taking any kind of anti-depressant or other psychiatric drug, major red flag.
@Shake half? more like 90% of the western population. lol
@@Kaz.2719 Kaz I was as deep into the abyss as the guy in this video and pulled. Myself out. You know what? The guy is right, gym and putting yourself out there was the best thing I ever did. Oh and discovering red pill
It is easy.
View your friendzoning for what it really is, namely a rejection of you by her.
She has rejected you.
Accept that immediately.
Then break off contact.
And move on to better and more satisfying prospects.
Do not let her back in.
She had her chance and made her choice.
Now make yours.
There is no oneZ
The only chance you have of getting out of the friendzone is by removing your nonsexual attention and focusing on raising your SMV.
HEYYYYYYY Got Any Grapes
My husband was a master on this, We were friends but he say to me "I don't want to be your friend, I want everything or nothing so this is our last conversation" and that was it
So it wasn't your last conversation? Or did you divorce your friend after he wanted sex for the first time? I'm confused
@@netfischer it wasn't our last conversation, We are married. We have being together for almost 16 years now.
When that happened I was calling him all day and night bc I really like him.
@@gpg8204 Gotcha. thanks for Clearing up. And good for you.
@@netfischer thank you. He is amazing I am really lucky 🤗
@@netfischer dont validate her. She was leading her husband on. And fucking him up in the head.
Don't be afraid to let a woman know you intentions from the jump
I think this is the key point.
Webster Kollie MOOOODE 1
Even if she rejects you she'll respect you for that.
Webster Kollie but the sexual tension won’t be there anymore
she either reciprocates or she doesn't hear from me again. simple as that.
Step 1: Don't.
Step 2: Stop wasting energy on a woman that rejected you and doesn't see you romantically.
Guy needs to forget the ladies for now and focus on improving his health and his career position. Women should be the least of his concerns
Friendzone = Bye Felicia !
How to get out of the friendzone, avoid her completely go your own way .
"You need support after a death in the family".. Women dont care about your feels .. They talk about wanting a guy with feelings.. They want Chad to have feelings.. My biggest mistake with a women was to show her my pain after my brother passed .. Sad but true..
If you don’t eject from the friend zone quickly, you can end up ejecting like Goose from Top Gun.
That hit me in the feels so hard. Poor goose
The last girl I dated, she tried to put me in her friend zone. I told her I wasn't interested in having a platonic relationship with her and she went no contact with me. This was very heartbreaking for me because I truly feelings for her, I even was ignorantly blissful at the time, thinking that she could be "The One". Me like a lot of us, I never grew up in a loving family, so I never had a level playing field in regards to learing about emotional maturity. My emotional immaturity has lead me down the path of having a pathetic love life, and life long bachelorism.
Man, the cure for that is clubbing, banging and dumping. Once you you got laid a lot and learned more about women, you will stop worshipping them or seeing them as special.
If you have no game, just go for it without minding the rejections.
It's better to go clubbing with really good buddies, the kind you have fun with and can be natural with them. Then you will oberflow confidence, and when women in a club see you are having fun with your people, they will flock to you. Like dogs, they go to where the fun is.
What most women teach us is there is never going to be “the one.” There is miss temporary or miss right now but long term….?
I got friend zoned by a woman at work. I still remember how painful it was when I realised she was banging some other jerk when I thought there was something developing between us.
It's really difficult when you still have see her everyday at work. I distanced my self from her, but still I wasn't over her. Eventually after months, I internalized all her lies, and I got angry with her. Really angry! I told her what a lying cow she was, and told her she could fuck off. And boom, like that, I was over her.
This was the start of my red pill journey. 2.5 years later, I've now been trough my first ltr, survived to tell the tail, and I currently have 2 plates spinning.
LOL, Rule 1: Don't shit where you eat, aka don't date coworkers! I wouldn't hang out with them.
I concur. Dating at work is a no win situation. Never a good idea. It always ends badly.
Gary van der Merwe
Out of interest, did she ever reach out to you again?
@@VoiceOfThe Not since I told her to fuck off. (I still see her almost every day at work.)
Don't dip your pen in the company ink lol
I was in the friendzone for 3 years. She finally wanted to date, but I had already mentally moved past looking at her romantically. After a little pushing from her, I decided to give it a chance. It never felt right. I backed off. She questioned, and when I told her it wasn't working after she asked what was going on, I was called an a-hole and blocked on all social media accounts. Getting out of the friend zone isn't worth it. It's not what you expect, and it won't end well.
The more you want them the less they want you.
The friendzone doesn't exist thats just men pining after women who dont want them
I had a fwb who during pillow talk would tell me about her male friend that her and her friends loved to go out with, because he would buy them drinks and when they needed to move they would call him as well. They would laugh behind his back because he never got any sex from any of them. Don't get friend zone.
Student Doctor should research his attachment style and address these childhood traumas.
They affect your entire life if not taken care of.
I feel sorry for the guy, we have all been there a time or two. Also men need to realize time easily spent is time easily lost, and they'll never get that back. Time is VALUABLE; and the time he has spent working on attempting to be with this person, he could've been spending it on fixing himself. The advice from the video is priceless, great advice. I wish I could've had advice like this in my twenties.
Don't waste time trying to get out of the friend zone. Just walk away and don't be a friend to any of them. When you are not a friend, and when you do not care for their attention one tiny bit, suddenly they will not allow you to be alone.
One of the things I love about your videos and statements is you focus on the guys themselves and try to fix things from within (which is the fundamental requirement to become a better version of yourself) rather, focusing on women and try to analyze or judge their thoughts and actions, as a matter of the fact, you always respect women for what they do and what they are (i.e. "she is a single mom and her children are her priority which they should be, she is their mom")
The fact that a guy (in my opinion anyone) needs to be held accountable for what he is going through in his life should be a lesson that everyone should learn regardless of their gender
Best of luck to you
I agree. But the problem is he is not fully aware of how helplessl blue-pilled he is
I actually cracked opened a beer for this and made some popcorn.
Without redpilling RUclips videos, my generation had to guess and experience how women behave, how they think, love and play games. Now, with all information out there, it doesn't take a lot of IQ to just make a simple search. But knowing about hypergamy and the female nature is just a part of the whole picture. Richard Cooper is the guy who could have spared me years of grief and shitty experiences beyond imagination if he had been around in the 90's. But I have to blame myself too: it took me a long time to make the steps which are needed for a great life as a man in his fourties. Everything will come around and one day you will be proud of what you have become and how so many of your dreams came true.
The friendzone is like a weird religious sect, easy to get into but massively difficult to get out off
Says he dont do drugs, hes on 3 different pills lol
I constantly got put in the friend zone by women because I lacked an abundance mindset was 100% blue pill. I was given a copy of the rational male (no plug) and began to live by red pill principles. I lost weight, put on muscle, got my finances in order and developed an abundance mindset. biggest key for me was being my own mental point of origin, operating in my frame and deciphering the medium in the message when listening to what women were saying. These things have helped me avoid the friend zone with women
"Worst case of oneitis in human history"
Damn, this is gonna be fun.
*Grabs popcorn*
*sneaks hand in to take popcorn
Nahh, I used to friend zone myself, I literally had a girl come over and take her pants off in my bedroom.
😃
It was bad but not worst
@@killcat1971 nigga, you're gay.
My friend was on antidepressents (lamictal)(zeldox)for 2 years but it never helped him it had side effects like him gaining weight etc about 2 years ago he decided to taper off of these medications and start weightlifting he now has a sixpack with a v line and is the happiest ive ever seen him
Great points Rich but I would also tell him in 3-5 years, he'll be a practicing physician, easily making six figures and in his peak SMV. Which means he'll get the last laugh to all the women who friend-zoned him.
This guy should NOT be in med school. He should not be a doctor for everyone's sake.
Not everyone has sake you know... Some prefer gin, vodka, etc.
He might do suicide, doctors have the highest rate with females doing the most.
Hes needs a different field. Those female nurses will drive you crazy and turn you into a woman. My health has been a lot better since if left the medical field.
I dunno, if he gets his shit together and starts lifting and having success it could change his whole mindset and he'll be fine.
@@ericharwood1047 it doesnt matter how bufff you are those female nurses will break you down
I would in this order:
-Own the fact that your values and actual belief system put you in this holes
-Change your diet cut the junk food and everything soy related. Also the meds. If you don't have any medical conditions look into IF.
- Then pick up heavy stuff like Rich said.
Time to focus on yourself and turn it around
All sound advice, however if you want to cut out excess estrogen you need to ditch all milk and cheese, not soy.
How to get out of the Friend Zone? Don't put yourself there to begin with. Only spend time as friends with people (both men and women) who you are happy being friends with. If an individual is someone you can't appreciate friendship with without wanting something else, do both of you a favour and move on. Also, if you're finding yourself swooning for someone who doesn't reciprocate, start working on yourself; you obviously don't see yourself as deserving or worth enough if you don't find those feelings naturally fading quickly when you discover they aren't reciprocated.
Bro, this is eye-opening. This guy is me in high school. Thank God for the hard lessons in the past and for this guy to make me understand what I did wrong.
A lot of women will take advantage of your future socioeconomic status as a doctor.
When she tries to put you in the friend zone you just reject the offer. Just say "No I'm not interested in that." Then she will know you are the one controlling the situation and not her. Also cut all contact with her if you can. Then ask someone else out.
"Secretly seeing someone behind his back." How??? No one owns another human being, she can do whatever she wants 🤣
Boy: We have soo much in common wow Girl: So your in the medical Field how much money do your make?
How much do I make ?, Why, how much do you cost....
@John The perfect response. 100%
Friends are nice to have. Friends with benefits are even better.
Dude ive stopped chasing them ladies and taking care of myself . For a month now. Its like ive reached the light at the end of a tunnel
Life had never been great.
Now im the one being chased and its great being able to choose what i want when i want
Keep up the great work i apreciate it
Friends zone? Fugget about it. The "Let's just be friends" cliche is basically a middle finger and it's best to move on and not waste your time pursuing a dead end.
Personally, I'd prefer a more honest response like "I'm not into to you."
Move on if you get the LJBF line.
Or when she says, "Let's just be friends," amend it by responding "With benefits."
He's suffering from "simp-poisoning."
You can avoid the friend zone ridiculously easily. Don't give her any attention.
*"Ask me how I know."*
Mic drop right there.
Whatever is happening, just be sure to live your life, you only get one life. If she doesn't want you, she just doesn't, and it's time to move on. There are plenty of girls out there to choose from.
I've been the fat nice guy for too long, major changes are already underway.
(Racks shotgun) lol
Just wanted to add that grad school is extremely difficult from a psychological standpoint. There are multiple anecdotes and peer-reviewed studies confirming this. For me personally, by the time I got out of grad school I was completely fried. If it were me being asked I'd say seeking love or relationships at this point is going to be too much. Fill your fridge up with healthy food, walk everywhere you can, and focus like a laser on your studies and job search. There'll be plenty of time to do everything else once school is done, and you'll be able to do it well. Grad school and career at this point are more than enough.
How to avoid the friend zone? Don’t be ugly.
It also helps if you are not poor, and/or you are high on the social totem pole (I.E.: not a mere middle manager, but upper level).
haven't watched this yet, but I'll share my comment anyway. sorry if it's a repeat of what you said, Rich. If you want to get out of the friend zone, you have to be willing to let her go. Permanently. You're in the friend zone because she thinks she can keep you as an orbiter and that she can push you around.
Put your foot down. You don't need to turn it into a passive-aggressive "you won't have sex with me so I'm taking my toys and going home" thing. don't make a scene. JUST GO. And be glad you saved yourself the trouble of dealing with her in a relationship.
Correct. She’ll get pissy, but if you stand your ground, state you’re not interested in being friends, she’ll feel your strength which will actually make her feel some respect and attraction for you.
The quickest way to get someone’s attention is to remove yours.
You’ll stand the best chance of getting her back... if, that’s what you want.
Back to square 1
I find if you are "friends" with a woman that doesn't want anymore than that let her see you with another attractive woman and watch her interest in you change. Women are very competitive and it clicks in another woman see something in you. Works quite often.
Arrrg you have covered this situation many times! Why do people only listen to you Rich if you talk to them about their exact situation...when it is exactly the same as the other stories! Your sir a very patient teacher.
Just ghost and block her on
Your phone. SIMPLE!
Block her too? Or keep her to make her jealous when somebody really likes him?
I went swimming with a girl a few months ago. After sex she told me she didn’t want to “friend zone” me after she saw me with out a shirt. Working out will help you in a way you can not imagine until you get it. Do the work! You’ll have fun!
And this dude is going to be a doctor!!!
... lmmfao ... Deadass ... ikr ...
Best revenge is treat her back like a friend. It pissed her off big time 🤣
Dude put himself in the friend zone because he acted like a friend, instead of a potential romantic partner
30 yo guy still falling for the friend zone? Dudes need to step their game up!
Most likely still a virgin.
Go on a low carb ketogenic diet immediately
I like being in the friend zone with women. That way they let their hair down and show me what they really think. And I get to know if they are manipulative or deceptive.
And when I find the right one, I start doing things that will make her think about me in a loving way.
A girl I've been lightly chasing at my company for a year blew me in the front seat of her car after a company social. What did I do different in the last 30 days?...........treated her and every other woman in the office like crap. No validation, no conversation, no attention, no anything.......BINGO, IMMEDIATE attraction!........women are weird, it's actually pathetic. The whole time in the front seat I'm thinking I Won, you lost!
Haha! Well done, man
Women don't put men in the friendzone, men put themselves there. The woman will stick around as long as you're giving them attention they don't have to reciprocate. It's taken me my lifetime to figure that out.
This isn’t a truth bomb. It’s a truth nuke.
Have been in that sad state of existence.
Am NOT getting back into that BS.
It. Ain't. Worth. It.
At least to me its not.
There’s 3 ways you’re in the FZ!
A) She saw you and simply put you in the friend zone category.
B) You started a sexual chemistry with her but you lost frame n started turning beta and she put you in the FZ
C) You went the FZ route in the first place
You will have more confidence and become more attractive to woman by
getting yourself in shape physically and mentally. A starting point is getting
the weight off---I did it and you can do it----it makes a big difference in how
people view you and how you view yourself. Work on yourself before chasing
women.
Eric congrats but thats generalizing don't you think what if the man has a medical condition that wont allow him to get the weight off..
I don't understand this friendzone stuff. Women can't put men anywhere. Guys put themselves on the friendzone when they keep hope after being rejected. It is a self-imposed situation.
If a woman rejected you, be friends with her if you may, but give up on her romanticaly and don't go out of your way to please her because she "might change her mind" or "finaly see the great guy you are".
Women are oblivous to how good you are or what you feel for her, they only care about what they want and will only be pleased with men that have the qualities or resources she wants to get.
The amount of women I've seen go for guys that match their superficial type just to bitch about them endlessly is no joke. They don't know what they want and I'm not interested in discovering. They are dumb as fuck and are in no position to validade you as a person.
It's taken me a while to realize that, but you're spot on. A woman doesn't friendzone a man, a man friendzone's himself. He gives the woman the initiative to "come around", but does that by his own free will.
Raw fucking truth soo tyy
Was in a long term relationship from 2010 until 2017. Dumped her and immediately started dating women who came onto me.
Clueless as hell! I thought that if I tried to let her see I'd make a good boyfriend she'd find me sexually attractive and I'd get laid. LOL
After 7 boring "nice guy" dinner dates she rejected me with a text that read "I'll text U another day".
I never contacted her again. But caught oneitis.
It took lots of education and WORK mental and physical to over come that crap and update my thinking.
Thank you Richard! Big brother I never had.
WAIT until you finish med school and residency/fellowship. Once you start making money as a doctor and improve yourself women will come along. You can never lose women chasing money.
“I'll keep it simple"
Wall of text ensues.
Jesus!
A grave case of tl:dr with this guy.
I was this poor dude when I was 20 years old, I hit rock bottom. But I studied and mastered David DeAngelo material and turned things around in my favor.
I look back and thanked the girl who broke my heart but taught me a very good lesson.
Hey man,
Rich is right. You're super young. You have a lot of potential and if you're studying to be a doctor you obviously have smarts to go along with it. I had trouble with an LTR and had a absolutely destructive case of oneitis just a couple months ago, so I'll do my best to help you out here.
For me, I'm a college kid and recently just got attractive because I started to take care of myself. Dated a girl for a few months, she broke up with me when I flew out to visit her and I put myself in the friend zone afterward by saying that I wanted to be FWB. Fast fowards, she manipulated me and destroyed my self-confidence eventually leaving. I can get into it more, but just know I've been there done that.
Dedicate time to work on yourself. Be in solitude. Lose the meds, the weight, and the previous mentality that you had. It's all crucial to re-establishing who you are as a person. Make sure that your priority in life is your success and your dreams. Understand that life sucks for everyone, but we need to get over it and work through it. Power through and keep yourself as first priority.
Invest into thhis you enjoy in your free time. Hobbies you had from years past or anything that spurs your interests. Politics, motorcycles, you name it. Just have some productive stuff that you can use to reinvent yourself. This will be essential because the more you devote to the promotion to your own life, the more women will come to you as a result. You eventually might find yourself turning down women. From my experience, after I started working like crazy on myself, my attention with women absolutely skyrocketed.
Remember, that the only person in life that will be with you till you die is yourself. Don't let the external world shape who you are. Take advice, but meditate and create your own truth based on what you see, both factual and opinionated. Also, read a shit ton of philosophy. I like nietzsche, jung and peterson as a start.
Good luck brother. May the transformation begin.
Workout in the morning, 2 hours after waking up, chug some coffee too, then go kill it. Working out at the end of the day NEVER works for me, I'm too tired (I'm 50) ..also, do a 2 week fresh press juice FAST, this will reset many things in your body (see John Rose videos).
Grandpa's Swapmeet, how long have you been doing the juice fast? I turn 40 this November and I seriously need to retool my lifestyle regarding diet and exercise. Juice fasting is an option I’ve had on my mind, I just want to do it correctly. I’m not overweight; I’ve actually lost ten pounds in the past couple of months but it’s due mainly to calorie deficit and work related stress. That and I’ve made drastic cuts in my beer drinking. This was very painful but I bit the bullet. Still, I’m feeling the decline in energy but what really scares me is a decline in cognitive ability at work. I know I need to sort myself out.
I see you work out two hours after waking up, am I reading that correctly?
Detox smoothies?
Exceptional video. I've been struggling with a version of this problem. I've been broken up with my ex-fiance for three years now. I've dated more than a dozen women in that time but I keep comparing them to her and oddly kinda end up resenting them for not being more like her. I feel like it's not fair to date more women until I can get this one out of my head. She only had sex with one guy in those three years and, of course, he just used her. In fact, she hadn't had sex for four years before we met (single mom focusing on her son). She also had sex with me once about a year ago when we both got really drunk together. Bottom line is that she's not a good partner for me because I'm very active and success-oriented and she's not. but I love her feminine personality, her tight little body, her natural beauty, and we have a great time together. When we were together the sex was the best of my life and I've been with a lot of women. It's bizarre to me that a woman that is so amazing in the sack goes years without having sex. She even agrees that the sex was amazing with me but thinks that would complicate her life. She's pretty much decided that she's going to be single for the rest of her life. I've been there for her emotionally and helped her with different things in her life... but I'm deep in the friend zone at this point. Sooo.... I'm off to the gym now... and I've been thinking about starting up Judo again... with your advice to that guy I'm going to join up today. Also going to work that much harder to build my digital agency. Thanks for the great advice you gave that guy... because you gave it to me too.
Last century coachs were friends and dads, and they were for free.
cant believe ur giving this info for free great content
I never enter that shameful friend zone, as soon as I discover that the lady is trying to play me, I pull the rug off her feet and ghost her for good.
1. The suicidal ideation worries me. You need to talk to a psychiatrist who can adjust your medications and get you into counselling to deal with the suicidal thoughts. A lot of this comes from being in a high stress field where you are working long hours.
2. You are a doctor. You are sitting in the cat bird's seat. You are/will be working in hospitals where every nurse wants to marry a doctor. You do not get a higher sexual market value in anything other than being a doctor. Any woman who would not be interested in marrying a doctor is brain damaged and you don't want her.
3. Forget this girl. She is using you. She will continue to use you for as long as you let her. (Been there, done that.) You need to put distance between you and her. This is hard when you are working together or are in the same program. But you will not have any peace until she is out of your life for good. This may mean transferring to another hospital and eventually moving to another city -- the geographical cure for oneitis works wonders. At the very least ghost her. If she wants to talk to you, you are too busy and will get back to her later.
4. As a doctor, you are in a better position to evaluate your weight problem than anyone here. Lifting weights builds muscle, but aerobics burns fat. You should be making enough money to hire a personal trainer; having a personal trainer with a scheduled time forces you to work out regularly, whether you feel like doing it or not. A personal trainer will help you lose lots of weight (been there, done that). Riding a bike or walking on a treadmill an hour a day or so can work wonders.
You don’t need Wellbutrin or Abilify, what you need is a prescription for some Beta Blockers.
😂 bruh
Why would you want a women who put you in the friend zone in the 1st place. But there are alot of guys that have no respect for themselves thinking women are the prize when it men who are.
Wish I could see a picture of this supposedly amazing unicorn. In my experiences (my own and others) we sometimes fall head over heels for someone that’s probably not even worth it on many levels.
I went through a similar situation but it was more a barrage of smaller friend zones and rejections that made me suicidal, at a later age. Somehow I got lucky you get being unskilled with women and all.
My suggestion to the guy, if he needs no one in general, to press the nuke button, disconnect, isolate, keep contact only with family and maybe best friend. Some might say that it’s unhealthy but it did a hard reset on me, the afterwards gaining back slowly the right amount of commitment with people in general that doesn’t become a burden and by extension falling in those oneitis conundrums. When an equilibrium is formed at least I think twice before adding someone more to my world.
Never trust a girl's excuse ...because it's an excuse 🙄 for god sake..
Each and every man should note this " I am getting out of a bad relationship...drug addict etc...etc."..like she told him in his face that she doesn't like him..
Just get out of this societal conditioning of true love bs
I don't think this guy was ever really in the friend zone. She invited him to Thanksgiving dinner. She made out with him. Clearly she was very interested and wanted him to be more than a friend. It sounds like he just completely failed to ever make a move or ask her to be in a relationship. That's what killed it.
Holy shit...reading these letters from these poor forlorn men is painful to hear. I was put in the friend zone a few times when I was very young and had very little experience with women. Once I became "tuned in" or was red pilled (before that was even a thing) I made it a point to make my desire of her known. If the vibe was not reciprocated I moved on. This is one of the first steps a young man takes going from a beta to an alpha. I haven't been put in the friend zone since my teens simply because I don't allow it. There is nothing more awful and pathetic to watch than a beta who is clearly a "girlfriend" of a woman he is attracted to and continuing down this path with the thought that he will eventually "triumph in the end".
Aripiprazole is an atypical antipsychotic and likely to cause weight gain. Surprised a medic didn’t know that
He is young and highly educated. He just needs to make himself look good. 🙂
Two things if one uses in his life can never be mislead:
1- watch actions, not words, and it will show you what a person is.
2- if you do something, it produces bad or no results,,, change your behavior.
If you combine the above two, you will be guided to happiness. No confusion and no misleading.