Talk about your DO EVERYTHING kayak for a tournament angler. Great walk through! Going to be a LOT of these sold this year. Probably THE most versatile kayak on the market this year.
Really, great review! They have setup this boat so clean,with multiple motor, electronics, and accessory mounting options. The bow storage, and recessed battery storage into the hull, for your motor. The swivel seat is amazing. I love my pdl drive, with my rear motor setup. Especially on a 12ft boat. I can't wait to this kayak with the different setups, and ideas people will use. And make it their own. 💯 🛶 🎣
There are 2 new kayaks out that are just amazing...The OldTown EPDL and the TitanX are both high on my wish list!! The issue for me is deciding which one and acquiring the funds and approval from the wife. 🤣
I got to take out the EPDL for a test drive, alongside a regular Native Titan and not the X. I can only imagine what the X will be like, but I'd rather have a Titan 13 with an Xi3. They were both amazing, but adding a motor to the Titan would be, what I felt, was a more stable platform and for less money.
You will have to drill to run lines. Foot control is an option that is not available to ship yet (soon) I just wanted to do bare bones as several ICAST videos were done with it fully rigged
Great overview! I can't wait to see one of these in person. I would like to see the bottom of the kayak though to determine if my Lowrance 3-in-1 transducer will comfortably fit in their transducer area. I've seen a few different videos and none of them have displayed the bottom. Thanks again.
I just uploaded a video short showing the entire underneath of the kayak. I run a Lowrance hook7 tripleshot. I would have no issue putting that underneath
Love everything about the new Kayak. I can only pull the trigger on it it meets my one specific demand please the hull speed has to be capable of faster speeds or equivalent then a hobbie kayak. I know Kayaks are not meant for speed. But i need to cover more water with my style of fishing. And NO I dont want a bass boat. lol.
Motorized? Or non motor? The Hobie drive will be faster. The prop style drive gives you a lot more control (instant reverse, etc) Speed will go to the Hobie though.
You think the new seat system would mount on to a previous model? I would be really interested in doing that for mine, never was a big fan of the current seat base system. Would rather have the space under the seat with a tray.
Best video on this new model when u plan on going water testing can you do the scupper plugs 🔌 both in and out want to know if this a dry boat 🛶 or not Thanks for doing these
Titan X is nice, but I still love my Titan 13.5. Yes, it’s a Barge, for me I got it for the stability being I fish in the back bays of NJ and some of the larger reservoirs throughout the state.
Good (Dry, as opposed to "On-the-Water") review of some of the features and upgrades of the Titan series 'Yaks. (But what the heck are you doing wearing a Jackson 'Yak SHIRT...?) Lol... Heck, I'm still waiting for my "promised" T-shirt from Native, that the dealer said I'd get...and that was over 5 years ago when I bought my Titan...! Haha! I WANT one, but "Fully Rigged" it would cost over $9,200 Bucks! (Electronics, Newport Nk-300, Bow trolling motor with "spot-lock", batteries, micro-poles, lighting, etc...!
Iam thinking the native 12 .5 X will be my next kayak great video I bought the P127 last year in March 2022 the turning ratio was terrible I sold the kayak it took 3 months
I love it! Thanks for the great review. I look forward to seeing the 10.5 also as it might be more practical for me. I’m pretty sure a Native Titan X will be a winter purchase. I anticipate using a bow-mount trolling motor and not a stern drive. Want and need that pedal-drive exercise.
Outstanding presentation ! You are very knowledgeable and thorough about your products. I have an old town 106 MK and also as Ap120 for my Florida trips . The Native you showed is a fantastic kayak, probably the most innovative and adaptable on the market today . Thank You for the walkthrough.
Really thinking of going from a Hobie PA12 to this. The only thing holding me back is the seat. Not crazy about the swivel seat but I love the Hobie Vantage seat.
@@thebeardedpaddler One of the biggest sell for the Hobie is how comfortable the seat is. The Native seat just doesn't look comfortable. It looks like it was designed with the swivel feature in mind rather than comfort. I'd obviously have to sit in it to see but other than that I'd love to have the Native.
@@newenglandangler its actually a Millennium seat. They design seats for boats and have the same seats on Nucanoe kayaks. Its very comfortable to me as the back has a bit of an arch support. That being said, Hobie PA seats will be a bit more comfortable. I rock a Kayak Kushion regardless whether im in a Hobie or a Native though.
Love your videos!!! what i really really want to see is how do you route the cables from a torqeedo 1103 AC install to the battery inside the rear battery box while maintaining some form of water tight integrity and ability to remove the motor. Also, fyi, Native is not giving away the motor plate on their more current builds, they say they changed it so it's no longer free. thank you!!!
Good question. I would route inside to the access plate to the stern to plug the motor into. This would require a hole to be drilled through the battery tub. Best bet would be to put a thru-hull grommet on the tub itself to maintain the integrity
Want to get you’re opinion on something. After you having experience with hobie PA and native titan X as of today which one do you like better. Money is not a factor. Great videos and info as always!
I still prefer the drive on the Hobie. BUT the overall hull design and features on the Titan X. The turning radius and stability are much better on the Titan X and that really surprised me. If I could go back, I can say I wouldn't choose a Titan X to be honest
Hello sir, I have a question. Trying to decide between the slayer max 10 or the titan x 10.5. Really only considering 10 foot size so I can keep it in my truck bed. Most I am going to do is a simple fish finder and maybe one day consider a torquedo or something similar. I am just looking for quality of life such as ease of transport, loading/unloading from my truck bed (no trailer), moving on the water, storage compartments. Which would you recommend between the 2?
Slayer Max 10 for the reasons you stated. It's going to be lighter and for your needs/plans it's not overkill. The Titan X is almost 150lbs. They are both really great platforms and both have the exact same pedal drive.
Native makes a wheel transport system called the sidekick for its kayaks. With a Ss127 I would really use a bar style cart like the wildy cart or the yakattack cart.
Any idea how low this kayak sits in the water? I'm curious if it can be used in shallower rivers like the Susquehanna, etc. - i know it wouldn't be ideal but could it get by occasionally?
@@thebeardedpaddler oh man..... I think we might of met a couple years ago then. We have some friends that live in Cotter. Def will have to swing by next trip down there.
There are pros and cons to both. Instant reverse is nice on bicycle and it helps when you have a fish on to be able to instantly pedal away ro maintain tension. The fins are better in tall grass and weeds and have better speed and less energy used
@thebeardedpaddler no, just when I stand it's really wobbly. It's my first kayak and I love kayak fishing I just want to be able to stand to skip docks amd punch mats..... if you had to give a percentage on the increase in stability on the titan what would it be? Thanks a lot
@@jimmywallhanger8402 it's the difference between primary and secondary stability. Primary is that initial "wiggle" and secondary is one the kayak is "leaned" until you feel additional resistance. Titan x has more primary but you are talking about a kayak that weighs 100lbs more. I would get used to your Unlimited more and get your sea legs used to it.
Native still hasn't released the finished weight on their website.... One of the most important factors when selecting a fishing kayak. It must be a tank.
@@thebeardedpaddler That is crazy, when does a kayak stop being a kayak? I have a 18'2" and a 17'2" kayaks and both combined weigh less than this thing does. My back hurts just thinking of moving that thing around.
I’ve had 3 natives and with that being said all have been wet rides when scuppers aren’t in place and it rains or gets windy… does water come up through the open scupper holes ?
That info has not come out officially from Native yet. If I had to guess, it would be in the high 130lb range for the 12.5. It's heavy but comparable to kayaks around the same size
I never understood why guys buy two expensive graphs only to mount them beyond their feet up front. This is rediculous. There is NO WAY to see detail when imaging and side-scanning on a graph that is five feet or more from your face. A graph should be mounted knee-length away MAX.
Have you tried those mounting options? Me personally, I haven't. The ones I have seen though are much bigger screens than I use. I think it's overkill honestly but some people prefer it for big tournaments
LoL! I would argue that this one is actually better handling than some of the kayaks that preceded it. Ill get this out on the water soon to test it out
😂 It’s like anything, tournaments get involved, money gets involved and I think just human nature? Gotta take things to the extreme. Older I get (50) the more appealing these “barges’ become!!! Just a note I still run a PROFISHA 525 which is about the sleekest big water yak there is. Cheers man
Let me know what you think of the Titan X.
Here is a short clip of the bottom of the kayak!
ruclips.net/user/shortsibZdOo_L8RI?si=QINfMECTK6TAIuOX
Talk about your DO EVERYTHING kayak for a tournament angler. Great walk through! Going to be a LOT of these sold this year. Probably THE most versatile kayak on the market this year.
The Titan X and the PWR129 both coming from the same company (Big Adventure LLC) is going to really position them to be one of the best values.
The future of kayak bass fishing motors motors motors
Thanks for doing this let’s see a 10.5 x
They are not available yet. All they sent was the 12.5. I will get one out asap though! Thanks for watching
Really, great review! They have setup this boat so clean,with multiple motor, electronics, and accessory mounting options. The bow storage, and recessed battery storage into the hull, for your motor. The swivel seat is amazing. I love my pdl drive, with my rear motor setup. Especially on a 12ft boat. I can't wait to this kayak with the different setups, and ideas people will use. And make it their own. 💯 🛶 🎣
Great video Andy 👊😎 Jackson shirt to review a Titan 🤣
Native needs to send me some shirts! LoL
There are 2 new kayaks out that are just amazing...The OldTown EPDL and the TitanX are both high on my wish list!! The issue for me is deciding which one and acquiring the funds and approval from the wife. 🤣
Depends on what you want to do. You can easily motorize this and have spot lock for less than the $6k that the EPDL costs
I got to take out the EPDL for a test drive, alongside a regular Native Titan and not the X. I can only imagine what the X will be like, but I'd rather have a Titan 13 with an Xi3. They were both amazing, but adding a motor to the Titan would be, what I felt, was a more stable platform and for less money.
Wish you showed where the foot control go and weather or not we have to drill to run our lines
You will have to drill to run lines. Foot control is an option that is not available to ship yet (soon) I just wanted to do bare bones as several ICAST videos were done with it fully rigged
Great overview! I can't wait to see one of these in person. I would like to see the bottom of the kayak though to determine if my Lowrance 3-in-1 transducer will comfortably fit in their transducer area. I've seen a few different videos and none of them have displayed the bottom. Thanks again.
I'm so sorry. I thought I included it in the video. Ill upload a video short with that on it so you can see. Give me just a few minutes!
I just uploaded a video short showing the entire underneath of the kayak. I run a Lowrance hook7 tripleshot. I would have no issue putting that underneath
Awesome, thanks for that quick update.@@thebeardedpaddler
@@jamesclark9494 no problem..thanks for your feedback and letting me know!
Kayaks and more did a video yesterday that shows the bottom. They got the first 3 off the line
Love everything about the new Kayak.
I can only pull the trigger on it it meets my one specific demand please the hull speed has to be capable of faster speeds or equivalent then a hobbie kayak.
I know Kayaks are not meant for speed. But i need to cover more water with my style of fishing.
And NO I dont want a bass boat. lol.
Motorized? Or non motor? The Hobie drive will be faster. The prop style drive gives you a lot more control (instant reverse, etc)
Speed will go to the Hobie though.
Can't wait to demo one! Can you confirm the weight and the dimensions of the forward battery box?
You think the new seat system would mount on to a previous model? I would be really interested in doing that for mine, never was a big fan of the current seat base system. Would rather have the space under the seat with a tray.
Not sure. That's a good question. I should be able to find out tomorrow
That would be great, thank you so much!!!@@thebeardedpaddler
It does not fit on older models.
Ah dang. Oh well. Good to know. Thanks for checking anyway i appreciate the time you took to test it out!@@shanebenedict3204
@@thebeardedpaddler The Millennium seat by itself can be mounted almost to anything as its just a standard 4 bolt pattern , had one on my slayer p10.
Best video on this new model when u plan on going water testing can you do the scupper plugs 🔌 both in and out want to know if this a dry boat 🛶 or not
Thanks for doing these
ruclips.net/user/shortsv5QdA5cydC0?feature=share
Video of the pedal drive without scupper plugs in
Titan X is nice, but I still love my Titan 13.5. Yes, it’s a Barge, for me I got it for the stability being I fish in the back bays of NJ and some of the larger reservoirs throughout the state.
Nothing wrong with that at all! It's a great platform with plenty of room
Good (Dry, as opposed to "On-the-Water") review of some of the features and upgrades of the Titan series 'Yaks.
(But what the heck are you doing wearing a Jackson 'Yak SHIRT...?) Lol... Heck, I'm still waiting for my "promised" T-shirt from Native, that the dealer said I'd get...and that was over 5 years ago when I bought my Titan...! Haha!
I WANT one, but "Fully Rigged" it would cost over $9,200 Bucks! (Electronics, Newport Nk-300, Bow trolling motor with "spot-lock", batteries, micro-poles, lighting, etc...!
Iam thinking the native 12 .5 X will be my next kayak great video I bought the P127 last year in March 2022 the turning ratio was terrible I sold the kayak it took 3 months
It's a great kayak. I expected some things but was surprised with others. It's a great choice
Picked mine up yesterday
It's great
I love it! Thanks for the great review. I look forward to seeing the 10.5 also as it might be more practical for me. I’m pretty sure a Native Titan X will be a winter purchase. I anticipate using a bow-mount trolling motor and not a stern drive. Want and need that pedal-drive exercise.
You're welcome! Thanks for watching
Outstanding presentation ! You are very knowledgeable and thorough about your products. I have an old town 106 MK and also as Ap120 for my Florida trips . The Native you showed is a fantastic kayak, probably the most innovative and adaptable on the market today . Thank You for the walkthrough.
@@thebeardedpaddlerAny chance we'll see a walkthrough of the 10.5 soon?
@@MarcoRoman89 yes. They haven't shipped out yet. It will be very similar, but I will be doing one.
Really thinking of going from a Hobie PA12 to this. The only thing holding me back is the seat. Not crazy about the swivel seat but I love the Hobie Vantage seat.
What's your biggest hold back to.the swivel? Just curious
@@thebeardedpaddler One of the biggest sell for the Hobie is how comfortable the seat is. The Native seat just doesn't look comfortable. It looks like it was designed with the swivel feature in mind rather than comfort. I'd obviously have to sit in it to see but other than that I'd love to have the Native.
@@newenglandangler its actually a Millennium seat. They design seats for boats and have the same seats on Nucanoe kayaks. Its very comfortable to me as the back has a bit of an arch support. That being said, Hobie PA seats will be a bit more comfortable. I rock a Kayak Kushion regardless whether im in a Hobie or a Native though.
@@thebeardedpaddler either way I'm gonna keep an eye out for a demo event close by and maybe I'll fall in love with it.
Love your videos!!! what i really really want to see is how do you route the cables from a torqeedo 1103 AC install to the battery inside the rear battery box while maintaining some form of water tight integrity and ability to remove the motor. Also, fyi, Native is not giving away the motor plate on their more current builds, they say they changed it so it's no longer free. thank you!!!
Good question. I would route inside to the access plate to the stern to plug the motor into. This would require a hole to be drilled through the battery tub. Best bet would be to put a thru-hull grommet on the tub itself to maintain the integrity
could you possible show the transducer mount please?
The pinned comment has a link to the video short with the whole underneath of the kayak. Sorry I left that out!
Looks very interesting . I am still happily fishing My 2012 NWC manta Ray 14 .
Want to get you’re opinion on something. After you having experience with hobie PA and native titan X as of today which one do you like better. Money is not a factor. Great videos and info as always!
I still prefer the drive on the Hobie. BUT the overall hull design and features on the Titan X. The turning radius and stability are much better on the Titan X and that really surprised me. If I could go back, I can say I wouldn't choose a Titan X to be honest
Hello sir, I have a question. Trying to decide between the slayer max 10 or the titan x 10.5. Really only considering 10 foot size so I can keep it in my truck bed. Most I am going to do is a simple fish finder and maybe one day consider a torquedo or something similar. I am just looking for quality of life such as ease of transport, loading/unloading from my truck bed (no trailer), moving on the water, storage compartments. Which would you recommend between the 2?
Slayer Max 10 for the reasons you stated. It's going to be lighter and for your needs/plans it's not overkill. The Titan X is almost 150lbs. They are both really great platforms and both have the exact same pedal drive.
Great review. This is definitely not for the weekend angler. I’d love to buy one but no way I’m putting that thing on top of my crosstrek.
Would I need a trailer, I really don’t want a trailer. I pre ordered the 12.5 but maybe I should get the 10
Get the sidekick wheel transport. It will really help with transport
Does Native sya that Boonedox are allowed? I have a SS127 and Bonafide syas if damage occurs while using them it wont be covered.
Native makes a wheel transport system called the sidekick for its kayaks. With a Ss127 I would really use a bar style cart like the wildy cart or the yakattack cart.
Any idea how low this kayak sits in the water? I'm curious if it can be used in shallower rivers like the Susquehanna, etc. - i know it wouldn't be ideal but could it get by occasionally?
I did an on the water test of the same kayak. Check it out and let me know if you have any questions!
Would this be a good kayak for salt? Like bays and ocean? I want to go after lingcod and salmon here on the coast of Oregon.
I seen an OMTC sticker....... are you a shop in Arkansas?
I bought my Hobie Outback in the Ozark store.... Good guys there!!
New sub too haha.
Thank you! Yes, I manage the store in Cotter, AR
@@thebeardedpaddler oh man..... I think we might of met a couple years ago then. We have some friends that live in Cotter.
Def will have to swing by next trip down there.
@@SargesAdventures absolutely!
my only issue i have is the landing gear bar will lay across the battery cover. I hope that's not an issue.
The Sidekick does go over the box. That is why the cover is shaped the way it is so that you can slide it out from under the Sidekick bar.
If I did not already have my Hobie I would have gone this one.
It's great. I doubt it's going anywhere anytime soon so when you get the next kayak then it's worth looking at
What trailer brand do you recommend ?
Yakima or jetski trailer
@@thebeardedpaddler best Yakima model for 2 Titan X 12.5’s?
@@51ddb the trailer called the EasyRider
@@thebeardedpaddler got it
Still has a bicycle pedal. For the price, a better push/pull pedal system could be used. For this price, I’ll stick with PA14
There are pros and cons to both. Instant reverse is nice on bicycle and it helps when you have a fish on to be able to instantly pedal away ro maintain tension.
The fins are better in tall grass and weeds and have better speed and less energy used
How does the stability compare to the Unlimited?
Nothing is more stable than the Titan X industry wide. The Unlimited is very stable though
@thebeardedpaddler I have an unlimited and I just don't find it to be that stable.
@@jimmywallhanger8402 really?? Have you tipped it over?
@thebeardedpaddler no, just when I stand it's really wobbly. It's my first kayak and I love kayak fishing I just want to be able to stand to skip docks amd punch mats..... if you had to give a percentage on the increase in stability on the titan what would it be? Thanks a lot
@@jimmywallhanger8402 it's the difference between primary and secondary stability. Primary is that initial "wiggle" and secondary is one the kayak is "leaned" until you feel additional resistance.
Titan x has more primary but you are talking about a kayak that weighs 100lbs more. I would get used to your Unlimited more and get your sea legs used to it.
So stupid that the xi3 plate doesn’t come with the kayak. I guess the first couple of trips I have to go old school and peddle lol 😢
No other manufacturer is doing that lol. Not everyone will run the Xi3 on it so I'm assuming it's a cost saving measure
What color is this?
Hidden Oak
Makes me want to sell my PA14 immediately
I'm debating it
Native still hasn't released the finished weight on their website.... One of the most important factors when selecting a fishing kayak. It must be a tank.
Well we got the first ones out of the facility. That being said, my guess would be around the mid to upper 130lb range
@@thebeardedpaddler That is crazy, when does a kayak stop being a kayak? I have a 18'2" and a 17'2" kayaks and both combined weigh less than this thing does. My back hurts just thinking of moving that thing around.
How much does it weigh?
No official weight yet. My guess is around mid to upper 130lb range
172 with the paddle drive and seat.
@mlukat holy crap! That's massive. Wow! No wonder they held off so long in announcing it. Still a sweet rig, though.
I’ve had 3 natives and with that being said all have been wet rides when scuppers aren’t in place and it rains or gets windy… does water come up through the open scupper holes ?
It does not retain water like the older models.
ruclips.net/user/shortsv5QdA5cydC0?si=Ws0KN4iO3SlabWkY
What does it weigh?
That info has not come out officially from Native yet. If I had to guess, it would be in the high 130lb range for the 12.5. It's heavy but comparable to kayaks around the same size
Thanks!
You have one, just weigh it...
The hull is like the slayer max so you dont have to use the terrible landing gear.....
I never understood why guys buy two expensive graphs only to mount them beyond their feet up front. This is rediculous. There is NO WAY to see detail when imaging and side-scanning on a graph that is five feet or more from your face. A graph should be mounted knee-length away MAX.
Have you tried those mounting options? Me personally, I haven't. The ones I have seen though are much bigger screens than I use. I think it's overkill honestly but some people prefer it for big tournaments
@@MassReelFishingnot at all. Those bassboat guys get on their knees when they're on the bow of their boats fishing and nobody is watching. Lol
You lost me at $3500. I’m buying a used boat for that.
thanks for watching
If you’re here and I’m here doesn’t mean it’s our time?
Fast times!!! Lol
40" wide. At what point do we stop calling these barges kayaks?
LoL! I would argue that this one is actually better handling than some of the kayaks that preceded it. Ill get this out on the water soon to test it out
72” sir
😂 It’s like anything, tournaments get involved, money gets involved and I think just human nature? Gotta take things to the extreme. Older I get (50) the more appealing these “barges’ become!!! Just a note I still run a PROFISHA 525 which is about the sleekest big water yak there is. Cheers man
What about a 20’ kayak? At what length you wanna stop too? Or maybe just keep the classification as it is described.