Yeah. It was so humbling to hear a soft spoken Ephey call your itemization dogshit. And the dogshit comment wasn't from Ephey's personality. It's from Dota culture that she's using to describe Grubby's decisions. Dota is effing harsh. You're not fighting NPCs. You're not in a shooter where the player enemies are reacting to seeing you. In Dota, the enemy is working, planning, and scheming to kill you. The un-polite community is just a reflection of the harshness of the game.
yea was not very cool since are many words you can use instead ...that's i stopped watch singsing for language like that..felt forced and used for content and so unbecoming...
@@markvincentcocjin Idk man, you know people would be just as harsh in any other competitive team game, it's the online gaming demographic in general, we're used to getting super frustrated playing our games (remember angry unreal tournament kid XD) and then we take it out on whoever makes a mistake we happen to see. There is a reason n00b is a well-established insult in gaming, we all hate playing with someone who is inexperienced and feel like it's okay to abuse them.
It's truly impressive, there are many players as knowledgable (maybe even more so) but in terms of having perfect explanations that all contribute to a clear picture of what you have to do - she's really freaking good.
1:07:45 great coach on skome in dota, and also this ones 1:21:54 always bee with your team in the team fights at soon as posible always. 1:26:30 the first item is the most important item for a support, you have to think in your first item very well depending every situation beacuse it wil be touy only item for a long time in the game, 32:45 don't Die as a support, only die to save your cores.
Grubbys going to be Divine so damn fast. He asks all the right questions and is genuinely interested in sorting out the holes in his knowledge. Best kind of student possible.
It's such a shame Grubby didn't let her coach with Earth Spirit. I think it would suit Grubby's pos 4 play style and she's one of the most suitable coaches for the hero since she plays him a lot at a high level. I myself climbed my way to Divine just spamming Earth Spirit.
This is Dota... There is always something more you can do or a better item to have. And that's the beauty of it! The game is so deep that there is always something to improve even for Miracles and Topsons of the world. And that's why we keep playing, there is something to improve on, always...
this video proves why u cannot rank up by solely playing support in 3k and below, random braindead shitstains like the spiritbreaker/pa will throw games even if u give them the perfect start
truely humbling experience from my boy.. as always that's how you appreciate Ephey. very well versed. can't wait for grubby to make Stroger. moments like this makes dota player becomes immortal.
@Grubby Some OG advice (thousands and thousands of dota 1 games, heroes like Invoker did not exist yet): Try less strategic (macro & theory, wc3 style) and play more instinctive (micro). Also take the 12345 roles with a grain of salt until you are in top leagues. In these mediocre leagues just dominate everyone. Always. All the time. With any hero. Like a true dota gosu. Break their mental. Low level dota players generally have weak mentality and give up & rage after being outplayed once or twice. I love your Sven support. This is true dota. Final point, Ephey is right. Dieing is NOT ok. Never. Aim for 25/0 always. (Except high level games)
oh grubby btw if youre still on this serious learning vibe i would recommend some of henrys (rawdota) old coaching videos from about 2 years ago it might be a controversial recommendation as a lot of people in community dont like him because a) he is toxic in pubs (flaming smurfing etc.) and b) he peaked rank wise i think at like rank 200 iirc but he had an ego like he was a pro player which he couldnt justify skill wise buut i think in terms of pure coaching, ive never seen anyone be able to articulate big picture concepts of dota and relate them to matchup specifics in the same way he isnt very active now i think because of depression that he has mentioned before but if you dont mind the content being on an old patch i cannot recommend him more highly. he was waay ahead of bsj teaching wise back then and even 2 years on bsj is just catching up to the standard he set. "How To CARRY LIKE A SMURF and DESTROY GAMES with 1 CONCEPT" is a good start quite short too
The problem with a lot of her advice is that it boils down to putting the onus on you to make calls, and then convince your team to follow them. By far this is my greatest challenge. I'm not going to type out directives in chat. Period. Not going to happen. But if I ping things to either retreat or attack specific map points or whatever, good luck getting people on board. So at that point, even if you were an absolute genius. Rain man of MOBAs. You also need to be a psychologist and a people person to have any shot at getting people to do what you need them to do. And this is why I don't play ranked. My personal rank, owned only my me, is influenced and ultimately determined by 4 other people in a game that I have zero control over.
@Omvi Lya I'm not complaining about it, he deserves the attention. It was more of a compliment. Nah I couldn't care less to promote the game. Thanks though.
aeon disk is a luxury item on supports. grubby likes to build it early on most of his supports games, but you have to remember, after like 12-15 mins your life as a support barely matters. protecting your cores has way more value than you surviving the fight and getting 1-2 spells off because of aeon. so a force/glimmer is 90% of the more valueable than an aeon. you would have spent less gold AND you would have gold for buyback. So you can safe your core, die, buyback and join the fight again. not even talking about the octatine core which is completely out of line other than that, great video! will recommend it to my lower ranked friends
I don't think Grubby realises that wraith pact so broken that it was grief not to buy it. But greaves is not broken, it's good, but you don't have to buy it to win a game. Whereas that wasn't the case with wraith pact - you had to buy it.
@Omvi Lya I'm talking about on the previous patch - gubby was talking as if greaves is as broken as wraith pact was. He started playing Dota during a patch with such a broken aura item that he thinks you NEED an aura item in every game even if it doesn't synergise with your hero. In previous patches the wraith pact was so broken that it wasn't grief to buy it on a 3 4 or even a 5!
Lol Grubby tried to say he has to buy offlane items on a pos4 and Ephey had none of it. She pretty much said if you bought Aghanim you probably win instead of guardians :D
Grubby do you remember a game you played vs someone with a italian name like Stephano or something like this? Orc vs Human. He destroyed your bases but you kept raiding him and hiding Townhalls around the map.
Im 5-7 minutes in and I definetely don't agree with Ephey Her recommendations are good for a high level match where the builds are considered during drafting. Instead I can see a fast aeo heal rush agains invoker luna is super valuable, and self dispell from BH track too. Shard is definetely super valuable y specially when there is a sb in your team, but force staff really seems like having bad value regardin the picks and the skill bracket: the invoker bh void can definetely chase down whoever is forced back, unless some superior communication+positioning is going on, which would never happen in a solo ranked legend game. Baseline is, her advice is not adapted, and adapting your build is a major factor of playing dota correctly
@@RodelIturalde no item/built/hero is best in every game - every context - no matter what. You gotta prioritize and adapt, or you are simply another flatbrain "find match" click addict. Statistics are a consequence, not a cause. If the "usual" cause does not apply, you'll be smart to realise you are in the exception side of the rule. I don't know in what other way to ilustrate the same thing over, so if you don't get it, go ahead, play autopilot, but don't cry if rest of team sucks too.
Finally a true dota2 gamer girl. Authentic toxicity and salt prerequisites are met and EXCEEDED. We need more queen b*tch of the universe *insert high pitched babyrage*
I understand pros helped grubby and that was helpful, but I am pretty sure Grubby will take over these NA immortals in no time. So Ephey being a person who got really popular with her voice (and she being a woman in DOTA scene), I hope Grubby dont get too exiceted and implement everything she said...
Ephey trying to voice cute then shows her dog instead. At least she could've showed her feet at least or her A.... imean shoulders xd Lots of things i learned tho from her its just the voice makes me think of other stuff
She is insanely well spoken , high game knowledge, witty, funny. What an actually great coach.
And so cuuuute
@@Jackiecon 🧐
Huge simp
@@lopppopp9581 100% im the biggest ephey simp
most jordanians dont talk like that, must have rich parents.
That roast at the end regarding his itemization was just gold.
1:28:44
Yeah. It was so humbling to hear a soft spoken Ephey call your itemization dogshit. And the dogshit comment wasn't from Ephey's personality. It's from Dota culture that she's using to describe Grubby's decisions.
Dota is effing harsh. You're not fighting NPCs. You're not in a shooter where the player enemies are reacting to seeing you. In Dota, the enemy is working, planning, and scheming to kill you. The un-polite community is just a reflection of the harshness of the game.
yea was not very cool since are many words you can use instead ...that's i stopped watch singsing for language like that..felt forced and used for content and so unbecoming...
@@markvincentcocjin Idk man, you know people would be just as harsh in any other competitive team game, it's the online gaming demographic in general, we're used to getting super frustrated playing our games (remember angry unreal tournament kid XD) and then we take it out on whoever makes a mistake we happen to see. There is a reason n00b is a well-established insult in gaming, we all hate playing with someone who is inexperienced and feel like it's okay to abuse them.
That was brutal lmao
Ephey is a great coach. Very articulate and breaks things down well.
Ephey describes the game so beautifully! Great video I learned a lot.
It's truly impressive, there are many players as knowledgable (maybe even more so) but in terms of having perfect explanations that all contribute to a clear picture of what you have to do - she's really freaking good.
I like she asks questions to challenge him to learn to think about situations.
"It's dogshit" - Ephey, 2023
1:07:45 great coach on skome in dota, and also this ones 1:21:54 always bee with your team in the team fights at soon as posible always. 1:26:30 the first item is the most important item for a support, you have to think in your first item very well depending every situation beacuse it wil be touy only item for a long time in the game, 32:45 don't Die as a support, only die to save your cores.
HER VOICE TOUCHED MY SOUL TBH
Grubbys going to be Divine so damn fast. He asks all the right questions and is genuinely interested in sorting out the holes in his knowledge. Best kind of student possible.
This is some HQ mic she has, sheesh!
It's like she was next to me irl. What's her mic?
my mic sounds just like that and it's the standard Yeti Blue
Dota asmr
DotA 2 balance is really good, so items are rarely overpowered in general. If an item is so strong it's for specific heroes in specific matchups.
the level of mindfulness in this video in the first 3 mins is great and an admirable approach to learning dota
1:28:47 For expecting dog's poo poo... 😂😂😂
It's such a shame Grubby didn't let her coach with Earth Spirit. I think it would suit Grubby's pos 4 play style and she's one of the most suitable coaches for the hero since she plays him a lot at a high level. I myself climbed my way to Divine just spamming Earth Spirit.
We talked about it before and she deemed it unwise at this stage due to my level and inexperience
ephey should make a asmr channel. her voice is so smoothing.
Grubby Wife Reaction video next
This is Dota... There is always something more you can do or a better item to have. And that's the beauty of it! The game is so deep that there is always something to improve even for Miracles and Topsons of the world. And that's why we keep playing, there is something to improve on, always...
this video proves why u cannot rank up by solely playing support in 3k and below, random braindead shitstains like the spiritbreaker/pa will throw games even if u give them the perfect start
truely humbling experience from my boy.. as always that's how you appreciate Ephey. very well versed.
can't wait for grubby to make Stroger. moments like this makes dota player becomes immortal.
I'm a bit late, but there are a lot of good tips in the first 10 mins alone. Really easy to learn with how Grubby and Ephey communicated too
Here come the sweaty coomers
Can confirm, am cooming
1:28:21 Big OOF
Yey! The collab I need.
Here before the horni community comes and jump the views
Luna with no W , "It worked , I am so happy for him " 😁...
"Truly dogshit." - This is why I watched this to the end. 🤣 Oh man... It's definitely even more painful heard coming from her kind voice. 😂
Ephemeral! Great coaching👌You da boss Mira!
@Grubby Some OG advice (thousands and thousands of dota 1 games, heroes like Invoker did not exist yet):
Try less strategic (macro & theory, wc3 style) and play more instinctive (micro).
Also take the 12345 roles with a grain of salt until you are in top leagues. In these mediocre leagues just dominate everyone. Always. All the time. With any hero. Like a true dota gosu. Break their mental. Low level dota players generally have weak mentality and give up & rage after being outplayed once or twice.
I love your Sven support. This is true dota.
Final point, Ephey is right. Dieing is NOT ok. Never. Aim for 25/0 always. (Except high level games)
Where is this step-by-step coaching in the workplace XD?
oh grubby btw if youre still on this serious learning vibe i would recommend some of henrys (rawdota) old coaching videos from about 2 years ago
it might be a controversial recommendation as a lot of people in community dont like him because a) he is toxic in pubs (flaming smurfing etc.) and b) he peaked rank wise i think at like rank 200 iirc but he had an ego like he was a pro player which he couldnt justify skill wise
buut i think in terms of pure coaching, ive never seen anyone be able to articulate big picture concepts of dota and relate them to matchup specifics in the same way
he isnt very active now i think because of depression that he has mentioned before but if you dont mind the content being on an old patch i cannot recommend him more highly. he was waay ahead of bsj teaching wise back then and even 2 years on bsj is just catching up to the standard he set. "How To CARRY LIKE A SMURF and DESTROY GAMES with 1 CONCEPT" is a good start quite short too
Ephey AYAYA
grass
Grass. Please touch it.
Great video Grubby. Big fan of Ephey.
Ephey should replace "Alexa"
The problem with a lot of her advice is that it boils down to putting the onus on you to make calls, and then convince your team to follow them. By far this is my greatest challenge. I'm not going to type out directives in chat. Period. Not going to happen. But if I ping things to either retreat or attack specific map points or whatever, good luck getting people on board. So at that point, even if you were an absolute genius. Rain man of MOBAs. You also need to be a psychologist and a people person to have any shot at getting people to do what you need them to do.
And this is why I don't play ranked. My personal rank, owned only my me, is influenced and ultimately determined by 4 other people in a game that I have zero control over.
I for one think the first question around 5 minutes is legit. It's the same as buying wards as a pos1 if nobody else is doing it.
Oh my god, I was watching the whole video thinking SB was screwing the game but in the end it was grubby's fault???!!!
So jealous. All these extremely well known Dota players helping you.
@Omvi Lya I'm not complaining about it, he deserves the attention. It was more of a compliment. Nah I couldn't care less to promote the game. Thanks though.
I've been waiting on this!
Poor grubby. She never agreed with him once. lol
13:58 ФЫАХАХФЫХАЫФХАЫХЫААХЫХЫАХАХАХ
there is no link to her stream -.-
Damn, that's a voice for radio
aeon disk is a luxury item on supports.
grubby likes to build it early on most of his supports games, but you have to remember, after like 12-15 mins your life as a support barely matters. protecting your cores has way more value than you surviving the fight and getting 1-2 spells off because of aeon.
so a force/glimmer is 90% of the more valueable than an aeon. you would have spent less gold AND you would have gold for buyback. So you can safe your core, die, buyback and join the fight again. not even talking about the octatine core which is completely out of line
other than that, great video! will recommend it to my lower ranked friends
I don't think Grubby realises that wraith pact so broken that it was grief not to buy it. But greaves is not broken, it's good, but you don't have to buy it to win a game. Whereas that wasn't the case with wraith pact - you had to buy it.
@Omvi Lya I'm talking about on the previous patch - gubby was talking as if greaves is as broken as wraith pact was. He started playing Dota during a patch with such a broken aura item that he thinks you NEED an aura item in every game even if it doesn't synergise with your hero. In previous patches the wraith pact was so broken that it wasn't grief to buy it on a 3 4 or even a 5!
I think force is broken this patch at least 1 support needs it
Lol Grubby tried to say he has to buy offlane items on a pos4 and Ephey had none of it. She pretty much said if you bought Aghanim you probably win instead of guardians :D
She also said, if you had been in the fight instead of not TP because you where upset, you could have won.
Ephey's voice is easy to recognize.
Ephey coach grubby.
Can't believe in such a short time Grubby is higher ranked than me.
for real... i have 8k hours and i'm barely legend xDD
Grubby do you remember a game you played vs someone with a italian name like Stephano or something like this? Orc vs Human. He destroyed your bases but you kept raiding him and hiding Townhalls around the map.
i think that's stephano the legendary SC2 zerg player (french). he used to play human in WC3, still does I think every now and then.
I fell in love
Top notch coaching
0:01 hello hellow 😳
Coach ephey!!
I see ephey i click grubby
No Warcraft 3 video today? 😥😥😥😥😥😥
this girl :o
Her Voice is so cute
@@ironmonkey4411 wtf is wrong with you
@@ironmonkey4411 I didn't say"I don't get it", I said "what is wrong with you"
@@ironmonkey4411 He could just have found your joke to be in very poor taste.
@@ironmonkey4411 Point proven, very poor taste.
@@ironmonkey4411 It's clear that you're a moron if you think 'the point' was a funny or good one
her voice sounds like asmr
The sweetest, most feminine voice in Dota
Grubby UwU
*B A S E D*
que merda esa es su voz ? nunca la habia escuchado pero si sabia que era host en ingles jajaja
Ephey lowkey looks like a grown up Jenna Ortega - Netflix's Wednesday
ANY AYAYA / s in the chat?????
nice
Ahik hik hik
Im 5-7 minutes in and I definetely don't agree with Ephey
Her recommendations are good for a high level match where the builds are considered during drafting. Instead I can see a fast aeo heal rush agains invoker luna is super valuable, and self dispell from BH track too. Shard is definetely super valuable y specially when there is a sb in your team, but force staff really seems like having bad value regardin the picks and the skill bracket: the invoker bh void can definetely chase down whoever is forced back, unless some superior communication+positioning is going on, which would never happen in a solo ranked legend game.
Baseline is, her advice is not adapted, and adapting your build is a major factor of playing dota correctly
Force is like the best support item in the game, in all brackets.
Creating distance is sometimes enough to save your core, which makes it worth it.
@@RodelIturalde no item/built/hero is best in every game - every context - no matter what. You gotta prioritize and adapt, or you are simply another flatbrain "find match" click addict. Statistics are a consequence, not a cause. If the "usual" cause does not apply, you'll be smart to realise you are in the exception side of the rule.
I don't know in what other way to ilustrate the same thing over, so if you don't get it, go ahead, play autopilot, but don't cry if rest of team sucks too.
Such a nice voice.
ayaya
Monka shesh
Sounds like doing coaching from a bathtub...aka Twitch style
Finally a true dota2 gamer girl. Authentic toxicity and salt prerequisites are met and EXCEEDED.
We need more queen b*tch of the universe *insert high pitched babyrage*
what
I wanna play with her 😏
I more love EPHEY than Grubby... sorry....
If you are a massive Ephey simp, like me, like this post!
First
I understand pros helped grubby and that was helpful, but I am pretty sure Grubby will take over these NA immortals in no time. So Ephey being a person who got really popular with her voice (and she being a woman in DOTA scene), I hope Grubby dont get too exiceted and implement everything she said...
What are you talking about? She's not bad at all. You're implying she's not that good and she only has a good voice.
Miraaa's voice 😍😱😍😱😍😱
I could listen to her all day and night omg 😍😍😍
Anybody thst reads this. If you talk to me. Talk with mira's voice. Thank you
Please stick to pro players for coachings.
Ephey trying to voice cute then shows her dog instead.
At least she could've showed her feet at least or her A.... imean shoulders xd
Lots of things i learned tho from her its just the voice makes me think of other stuff
The artificially tuned, high pitch accent makes it too hard to listen to her, not my cup of tea :/
if only your brain could be artificially tuned :(
Doesn't she literally get this comment all the time and it's literally how she talks
there's nothing like the shrill voice of a mid-30s californian woman pretending to be an adolescent girl
@@MrDNE1000 Hey! Is the accent of a woman from California the same as the accent of a woman from Los Angeles?
her voice is..... Way too sweet for me to focus properly, sorry.
Ephey "let me just grab the Aegis to try to look cute on camera when I have not business touching it"
ephey was in Norway, she couldn’t have touched the aegis go touch grass
Ephey cant couch herself out of a paper bag, this is like the blind leading the blind....
yeah she’s only 7k what are you