2 Times TI Winner CEB Shows GRUBBY Some 10K MMR Tricks! | Dota 2
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- Опубликовано: 6 янв 2025
- I've had a blast being coached by Ceb on Alchemist, now let's see if he can make me a better Bounty Hunter player!
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2 Times TI Winner CEB Shows Me Some 8K MMR Bounty Hunter Tricks! (Game played on 10-September-2022)
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Dota 2 community needs more humans like ceb that makes you love the game !
Big fan of you grub
Look at what you wrote in the Dota chat and you will immediately change your mind about him)
@@weight2570 imagine being competitive
this game is the dame as DOTA all stars 20 years ago. even the item names are the same. idk how people don't get bored of this concept. they do. there is just no alternatives imo
That's funny because historically, he's known to be one of the most toxic pros, inside and outside the game.
@@enso8762 TBF he is just returning the toxicity.
53:50
Seb asks "are you familiar with the word kiting"
Grubby answers "yes" in an angry orc voice, remembering not being able to hit those dryads, remembering the pain, the frustration. DAMN YOU NIGHT ELF PLAYERS!
I watched the whole game, so basically you really need to track them all the time, not only do you get vision, it also makes them uncomfortable on the map knowing that they're tracked. It's actually vision plus brain damage.
This is the problem with low rank, i m confuses why they never track hero...mana? It's only 50 mana... Hard to find hero? You got invis, how hard is it? It's easy diff hero
Good to know, only my third game with him, I'll keep that in mind!
Mental damage>actual damage
-ceb probably
@@Vanille173 It makes a little sense as Slardar since he's more mana starved than Bounty. But even when I play the hero, if someone's in range I like to slap on that vision and - armour.
@@FollowGrubby ,i think its good hero for your) Its rly need strateg-brain! more video lke this!) And w8 for your with MEEPO or Terrorblade- think its good 2
pudge pinging his items when this build was approved by an immortal 2x ti winner tells me a lot about how much you should take into account tilted teammates that died from playing out of position inside enemy territory
sounds like every over passive player
True. Although you have to take into account that sometimes people ping items not because of a bad build but because of their timing/current (low) farm.
this is why wc3 is more enjoyable , dealing with teams in dota stress enough
He was pinging the fact that they were not on CD, taking notice that Grubby spent absurd gold on items to not even use them effectively. An immortal 2x ti winner can tell you what items to buy, but he can't press the buttons to use them for you. It's fine because he's new and still learning, but Grubby objectively does not push all of his buttons when their CDs are available and the Pudge was completely fine to call this out.
@@addand2665 Pudge and AA were good. Grubby held them back by going AFK farming top. Pudge tried to infiltrate their jungle a couple of times and died alone. If Grubby had some dota experience, he and pudge would easily dominate this game with AA ulti.
Ceb is such a great guy, love your collabs
ceb is the nicest guy to people who are nice and willing to learn. His choices of diction goes south real quick when you are an arrogant, toxic guy, who isn't willing to listen though LOL.
Oh these are from Ceb's participation at the Z-Event , I just realized from the people walking in the background , I hope there's more collabs between you two I love these.
the pain ceb had to endure in some of these moments must have been very srong so gj for keeping calm xD
Right? I have to constantly remind myself Grubby is new because for old dota players the foundation is pretty solid so minor mistakes are especially irksome.
8:46 You can hear Zeus bolt. After your attempts at killing the couriers, Zeus knew there was a ward behind the tower. But Ceb told you to place it far left, so it's not in the "usual" spot.
It really goes to show the sheer amount of skill and depth in dota that a war3 veteran doesn't get all the moving parts immediately. As a long time dota fan and player since tft dota Allstars and a war3, starcraft and hots player I'm so happy you finally picked up dota Grubby.
This is so wholesome. Both of these gents are just so chill and this teaches me way more than those silly "broken" hero guides. Two legends whom I've followed for years combining. Love to see it!!! More of this please!!!
Grubbz to see you struggle for doing all what u need to do on time when im used to see you play like a god in warcraft 3 really tells me one thing. It clearly shows me the power of practise, and thank you for learning dota on youtube and on stream cause it opened my eyes that even one of the top wacraft 3 players of all time would struggle with a new game if he never practised it. So better stop getting angry at loses and just practise and enjoy the games we play!!
Whoever make the thumbnail, give him a rise.
Thanks! It's always gratifying when the thumbs get noticed :D
I did :)
me 😊
Man seeing my idol from Warcraft and idol from Dota together, puts a big smile on my face.
The smile on ceb's face throughout this game is priceless xD
ye the level of this games is literally on the opposite side of his league :()
Watching you two has been a joy. The chemistry and the things you share in common, your passions for gaming and your mindsets are quite similar--it's been really fun to watch haha. Thank you for these vods, Grubby! I'm super glad you're enjoying the game and having fun with it all.
Love the combo of you and Ceb. His insight is invaluable.
That moment when Ceb says "That was a sick call from Axe", you know shit's got real.
I love your current content so much. My favorite WC3 and Hots Streamer being coached by one of my all time favorite dota players. I would have never thought that this will happen.
Should team up with Purge
Ceb: "Bounty hunter gets the most gold from hunting bounties"
Grubby: "Wow, I was just gonna farm"
LOVE how Grubby picks his talents in a greedy way, he can only see word "Gold" in the description...
52:27 Ceb says "I have never seen this AA build. He is absolutely killing it"
I see it all the time.. in low MMR SEA games where I play XD
Which AA build is that(
@@greencupofdeath aghs + attack speed
@@msavasacar thx. Like a moonshard?
@@greencupofdeath yeah like moonshard
He then did the AA build mid versus Entity huskar and Gorgc a few days later 😂
I se everyone else mentioned the tracking and everything, I would suggest you practice Bounty "trick shots". The range on the bounce is absolutely insane and can get you some really cool looking kills (or even kill enemies that are halfway across the map if the enemies line up perfectly). Whenever you get the chance, shuriken any other target than the one that is tracked, and you will get a feel for it. Plus, this is better to do in general (unless you need that mini stun asap) since you will get the damage + gold w/ scepter on the tracked target(s) anyway, might as well get some on other targets as well. It is a very counter-intuitive playstyle at first, but extremely fun and hard to deal with for the enemy if you get a hang for it
@ Grubby, remember that when a neutral creep kills one of your minions, ennemies dont get gold or XP. Pulling waves is how you get to be lvl 5 when they are still lvl 3.
I love CEEEEEEEBB. You should invite him more to your streams. CEB is the only one best guy i like in pro players. Very calm and positive. He is the actual reason why OG won TI. Always smiling even when he loose. Acts very humble but totally master from inside.
OG.Grubby?
Really enjoying this series!! Never knew bounty hunter can be this fun!! Will be trying this hero soon!! Love your work man!! 😀😀
Imagine watching both true sights, commenting on how great of a coach Ceb is, and then getting coached by Ceb, ON STREAM
My childhood hero in grubby with my adulthood hero in ceb playing the game of my childhood and adulthood. More of this please!!! Been a grubby fan since the grubby and tod wc3l 4K days 🎉
Love your new dota serie. Was my main game before (played for over 15 years). I can't play anymore dota because I become toxic really fast when I climb ladder. Still love to watch it! A great and deep game have fun!
Thank you for the boost, the community needed it :)
found it hilarious ceb kept being asked questions he never even considered, "what range is x, ceb - ahhhhhh "
Grubby probably just wanted a feeling, not an exact number -- like "very big" or "not that far". He hasn't played the heroes, so he wants to figure out how far he has to stay away.
Ceeeeeeeb! Haha I loved this Collaboration !
Title: "10K MMR Tricks!"
Me who clicks on a random spot on video: "press phase boots"
"You didn't get invis at lvl 2, get it at lvl 3". Lvl 4 and still no Shadow Walk 😋
In every 12v12 match someone is spamming the Ceeeeeeeeeeeb emote 😂 I love it
A little general tip: if you're laning against a magical damage nuker and have trouble surviving (zeus or skywrath mage are good examples), there's an item called infused raindrops which is very overlooked by most but it ends up saving you more than once. So basically if you see that you keep getting bursted by magic or have a high chance to die to a lingering effect like witch doctor's maledict, raindrops are cheap and give some mana regen + survivability (tho they disappear after 6 uses)
One note though is raindrops is particularly bad against sky/zeus specifically since they will drain the raindrops very quickly with their spammable, low damage Q spell
@@Teinve I still think it's worth buying against those heroes because you basically deplete their entire mana pool and if you have stick on top of that (which you should against these heroes) it's probably worth it. But yeah the reason I think it's generally good to have against zeus even past 10 min is to bait his ult, it's the "he thinks he will kill you but you survive type of thing you know", I think it will work particularly well at grubby's mmr
Zeus just insta deletes raindrops at my rank.
Seeing him juggle the slippers of agility was so funny LMAO, i know that feeling way too well
I love that Ceb was really quite serious about the emotional damage
It would be fun to watch Grubby teach Ceb wc3 too.
man these videos are crazy good
Grubby, I think for this rank. If you know that it is a support hero that you track and he is alone I think you could try to kill him (for this game it is zeus and sniper) as long as they are not on your enemy high ground or you think that they are alone. Because that is where you will have a kill potential.
Also preferrably, you can track them while you are defending tower, that is where you will have vision advantage on them via your own tower's vision. And try to track as many as 5 enemies for that moment because there will be lots of dead heroes when a fight breaks out at that moment. Your enemies will be afraid in pushing a tower if you harass them so much when you have an aghs scepter because 1. They'll be afraid because they know that they will not buy a sentry ward to put near tower when they push.(Literally 95% of games in herald to crusader rank) so that they could find and try to kill your hero and 2. Because they are just gonna be afraid of your aghanims timing. You know when in pros, specifically they smoke when the cores have bkb item completed?
You could do that too when you have an aghanims scepter on your Gondar. That is one of your item timings that you are looking for for that hero.
In short: let your enemies think that they could push. But in reality, you are only preparing them for your track and bouncing shurikens and **cha ching** **cha ching** you can now collect your bounties! :)
I had no idea that BH could be played like this. So cool. Edit: remember that you get all the strength bonuses from heart, except the damage. It's well worth it for non-STR heroes.
Manually casting w is mostly useful in lane as it allows you to orb walk and not wasting the hit on creeps while the cd is long. Tought you something even Ceb didnt think about, I must be the best coach ever Kappa
Ceb proved this year that he is the GOAT of DoTA. I really enjoy these coaching sessions you're having. Your team was horrendously bad. The only decent player was the AA. So many of those idiots were going high ground and trying to fountain farm solo.
Man I cant wait to see u start doing ranked, you playing Dota is one of my favorite things now
46:45 My favorite thing this game. So small but so funny. Pudge pinging Grubby's octarine core and making fun of it as if a TI winner didn't tell him to build it. If he only knew 😂
rly fast paced game actually and you kept up. GG!!!
P.S. Take notes from CEB !!!
Remember when tracking used to give like surrounding vision on the hero too my god...
If you have glimmer or a smoke can't you cast inviz on the sniper ulti to break it?
watching you being coached makes me enjoy the game more because I can properly play my hero now XD
Whoever made that thumbnail deserves a raise.
Good job 👌👍🏻
Man I love how your first question is "why" when ever Ceb suggests something you to do or buy. Sadly it's so rare to hear people who asks the "why?" question these days.
It's most certainly the days' fault.
Ti winner dying inside for 1 hour straight. CEB is so polite.
now I know what was Ceb doing in that crazy game vs Gorgc, getting his builds at 1k mmr :D
The reason why you don't farm the jungle with BH is because he's very slow at clearing camps. Alchie on the other hand is very fast, which is why you farm jungle with him. It's all about efficiency.
@Professor Thinker
Farming jungle != stacking camps.
Farming jungle != killing enemies.
Farming jungle = killing neutral camps.
The reason why you don't farm the jungle with BH is because he's very slow at clearing camps, which makes it inefficient. That is the right reason, because if BH could clear camps in 1 hit, then you would absolutely farm jungle with him.
The more appropriate term is "efficiency", not "proactivity". BH can spend his time more efficiently doing other things.
I love how he uses the shadow walk like it is used in WC3 with blademaster for harass :D old habits die hard
Man, I hope when you play silencer or invoker, the thumbnail better be your face edited into a 5Head on the hero :D
I make the thumbnails and I approve this comment xD
@@NaldaxTV Keep up the gud works man
invoker nerfed
DOTA2: It's always mental damage.
Fire Thumbnails!
From where is Ceb streaming ... the deck of a ship _(people walking by all time in background)_ °_o?
Grubby! your Dota 2 content is EPIC. I love seeing you play a spin off/mod of WC series. Keep at it
2 time with CEB?
POG sir
53:52 Imagine asking 4 times esports world champion if he knows what kiting is xD
Yeah but Grubby defined it in 3 sentences without saying "kiting".
It wasn't so popular term in WC3 as I know. It basicly called just "hit and run".
@@maksimtroshkov173 Actually, the term kiting is used all the time in Wc3. "Hit and Run" usually refers to the strategy where you hit the enemy base and run away, not the enemy units.
@@kevin-7091 Hmm... I didn't use to watch a lot of english speaking streams before (only about a couple of last years). But I'm pretty sure that there is another term when it's about bases. I've never heard using term "hit and run" when someone talked about bases, but a lot of times when it was about fighting, even in my language people used to say english phrase "hit and run" for this.
Only thing to be aware is Lotus Orb. When someone activates it and if u try to track that person u will track yourself too bcs of lotus
21:25
Ceb missed the joke that you said his old nickname "7ckingmad". I don't know if you know that grubby but you said it. LOL
Nice vid, with TI nearing, great refresh also
Grubby do you know the "5 reasons to pick" videos on youtube? Those are funny animated short videos about every hero with tons of jokes, definitely worth to look at :D
Thats a really cool thumbnail sir
I don't know how helpful this will be, but I think you should play Bounty Hunter like you would the Orc Blademaster, except you'll die faster if you screw up (Dota units have higher damage compared to your HP than you do in WC3 - you usually have 900-1,000 HP at level 7, and a maxed out basic nuke spell does around 300).
It's great that you're playing around your invis around the 40 minute mark onwards, but it should be the norm for your hero. If you're going to an area with fog, pop that invis immediately, and don't harass with Toss unless your invis CD is back up.
I prefer going for Shadow Walk on level 2 (sometimes at level 1 if your team would prefer to defend than attack at level 1).
If you have Scepter and you want to harass with the bouncing Shuriken Toss, try to hit an untracked hero or a ranged creep and then have it bounce to your tracked targets.
In your early game harass when you're hitting TB with Toss>Jinada, you're better off flipping that into Jinada hit out of invis then Toss. Shadow Walk slows the target you hit. Doing Toss>Jinada would make you Toss at its max range which is farther than your melee range, and it could complicate landing the Jinada hit.
I like to be as annoying as possible to the enemy team as bounty
The rat bounty, you are a mne of culture as well
@@juve9le4cs the communist build aghs rush
your money? it's OUR money
A small mistake I noticed is that you would sometimes Q before using your R. You really wanna get R up first
Please explain me. How can bounty hunter be core(carry)? Like how can he compete with other cores during team fight? Like him Vs Sven or what ever?
holyshit grubby is already controlling equilibrium with aggro tricks. you are immortal in no time
You can also kill supports when you play BH. Because his ult gives you crit dmg every timr you hit which good pair to your 2nd skill
Good to see you learn more and more about Dota; this level of wholesomeness was so much needed.
Quick question tho: What's the setting or shortcut you use to send an item to quickbuy? Instead of having to drag it from the shop to the slot?
Shift+Click on the item
@@PerritoGG 10 years playing dota, and somehow I never figured this out... Thank you so much!
shift + click or control shift + click to asign more items, then u need to set a hotkey for quickbuy and courier delivery
@@b4sh936 Yeah I pretty much have hotkeys for everything; this was the only thing I was missing.
I love the thumbnail on this one lmao
I don't remember seeing you use hex even once :P Very much a beginner problem, been there, done that. Buy an item and then forget to ever use it when opportunities come along.
Hey grubby, you should put more short clip of your games, I get a lot of shortclips from channels other that your's
its crazy how ceb can just tell u guys are gonna win this fight here straight after their pos 1 gets deleted id be running away from the fight lol
since Grubby is still not familiar with all the heroes and their skills, I think this was a good attempt!
Once you get more experienced you will know when you are strong and should engage. You played too passively this game when you were in fact way stronger than your opponents.
He was playing too safe
invisi then track all enemies, then toss all of them with 1 toss. you keep letting enemies go back into the darkness without providing vision.
I'm here waiting for Grubs' A-Z Ember video!
I'm surprised how often grubby isn't watching the fights. I'd expect him to have better camera movement tbh
I would have also been tilted AF as pudge in this game lol. So often that enemy heroes revealed themselves and didn't get tracked. Also i don't think grubby hexed a single time
Still, he's new and his build gave him tons of buttons to press
Unrelated, but I miss the old patch BH with aghs shuriken bounce. You can deal a ton of damage while practically watching from a distance.
BH`s track also good for combo with Tinker, you can spam missile with a good vision . It`s pretty annoying , lol.
Now that I watched the history of OG, ceb might try to recruit you lol.
Grubby, Ceb, Topson, Gorgc, +1 stream
Bounty is actually a more difficult hero than Meepo .. it's more of positioning, vision , and teamplay .. once you have your agh, aetherlense
you can get forcestaff , lotus kinda team items.
The role of BH in competitive dota after level 7 is not last hit or farming, it's constantly roaming around the map, warding, scouting, sometime you smoke tank for your team, often times you will be the cover for the core heroes that need farming. Usually the BH player are the one needs to aware the mini map the most, call ganking, call missing for the team, help your team with vision. After laning phase, BH staying in lane and farming is wrong...
Why are there people walking behind cen
this aa's ulti always on point, damn
Why didn't Ceb tell him to buy wards at all this game?
Nice thumbnail sir
where tf is ceb streaming from lmfao... dude looks like he's at an airport or something
He was at the Z Event, a French charity event gathering 60 streamers/content creators
@@NaldaxTV oh ok that makes sense, thank you bossman
Grubby if you have an enemy tracked and its too far out of range, you can bounce them off creeps too.
Ceb said the same in the video, so it must be true.
what's with the terrain and the towers? he bought it or modded?
Everbody got autumn terrain for free with dota plus, they have given out dota plus to all players for a limited time due to an inconvenience.
Also, I created a new account and now you get 2 months dota plus + terrain for free (on every new account). Its pretty cool.
Grubby is going to be nasty with meepo once he gets his foundations down
havent been in dota for a while. but excuse me wtf is that sniper weapon?!?!
Why didn't you hex axe when he jumps in. He has no bkb
It's so disturbing seeing him last hitting this bad