Agreed!! The way you present your videos and the information, it is straight to the point, very objective, and I love it. Thank you for all your awesome work!
Hey, you really supported my hype with your predictions and product description. I'm totally getting into this set and I wanted to thank your cover on this, I really liked it. Have a great week!
I love The Jolly Balloon Man as an include in attack trigger decks. Having another option to get the attack trigger without worrying about losing the original creature in combat is always appreciated!
valgavoths lair doesnt require one mana to activate, its the tap symbol, so its a hexproof enchantment land that taps for a color of your choice (chosen when it enters)
Demonic counsel is N U T T Y for standard… Also nutty for EDH. Valgavoth is pretty cool… was expecting a bit more for the face commander. Maybe secondary will be better.
@@arsenicwafers7536 it’s absolutely cracked as a commander, there’s so many things that can deal one damage to a player on their upkeep. One turn cycle and you’ve got 3 counters in it and drawn 3 cards
We don't run tutors in my playgroup, but god, do I want that Demonic Counsel art on a playmat. Gorgeous. Another excellent video, Tauna - stay amazing!
Hey! Just like my play group! No tutors no infinites. Just good ol fashion magic. And we can still pop off by turn 4-7 of we have the right cards in hand. So much more fun this way!
@ac1d212 well I own the Mothman deck, so I can relate to that lol. Still don't own a Rakdos deck, it would be a good enough reason for me to pick it up I guess.
Just watched the reveal but I absolutely wanted to hear your opinion! Thanks for all your content, I also hope to see your preview of a commander deck, best luck 🤞
The jolly balloon man could be a really fun addition or even commander for an ETB based deck especially if you did some kind of shenanigans to untap him repeatedly.
Thanks mate! Great overview/preview. Love how your channel is growing and evolving. I’m really looking forwards to this set, the mechanics seem interesting and easily incorporated into regular magic, the only one which is out of the norm is manifest, but that’s returning so it has past support… Just wished they didnt introduce the modern aesthetic to it, but I guess their marketing think that Stranger Things would sell/appeal more than Lovecraft/Ravenloft. I would prefer the later. Also agree on the bundle commentary. But they want people to buy more product- I just want the full-art lands in foil. Will they be in regular/CB?
"My Champion Stands Supreme" is actually a reference to the end of the main story, where it seems Val took Winter to use as a champion or host or something.
Thanks! Great overview/preview. I’m really looking forwards to this set, the mechanics seem interesting and easily incorporated into regular magic, the only one which is out of the norm is manifest, but that’s returning so it has past support… Just wished they didnt introduce the modern aesthetic to it, but I guess their marketing think that Stranger Things would sell/appeal more than Lovecraft/Ravenloft. I would prefer the later. Also agree on the bundle commentary. But they want people to buy more product- I just want the full-art lands in foil. Will they be in regular/CB?
So for Zimone, it seems like it can be a combo deck if you hit 2 lands in the same turn? Like rampant growth, cloak something like Aesi or something else that lets you play more lands. Play a land for turn, flip whatever the thing is that lets you play more land, then keep looping that until you run out of ways to hit extra land drops? Or just play a spell like shadowrift with orvar on the field, create a copy of the creature allowing you to have extra land drops and keep going that way?
It's the number of lands. "And you control a prime number of lands..." "... Then put that many +1/+1 counters on it." It would have to say "then put a +1/+1 for each prime number lower than and equal to the number of lands you control onto primo" for it to only be each prime number.
The enchantment land at the end looks like it taps for one mana of the chosen, not pay 1 and tap. If thats the case, itd be really nice in enchantress decks. Can they board wipe your enchantment land, sure, but its probably done plenty by the point they enchantment board wipe
I wish Kaito had Commander Planeswalker Ninjutsu & had the tagline of "can be your commander." He would've been a wonderful alternative for a Ninja typal deck. He isn't too powerful/broken as Yuriko, The Tigers Shadow & he would actually use Ninjas unlike Saturo Umezawa. I LOVE Zimone's prime number card. I have wanted to & tried to build tribal fractals with the Quandrix Dean but they were way too slow. Mirror Gallery, Mirror Box & Sakashima of a Thousand Faces will definitely be in the 99 to stop the Legend Rule. I want to make a Fractal every time I am on a prime number of lands. Winter is kind of pushed as a 4 drop legend in Jund colors with that Delirium effect. I mean, you can theoretically be at delirium from casting those self mill and discard/draw spells. You can run the useful enchantment creatures as well as the battles that flip into things with discard outlets (I think there are two in these colors) as well as Grist, Wrenn and Six & Wrenn and the Realmbreaker for your planeswalkers (Liliana of the Veil too if you got the space in the 99) Then just add Disa from the MH3 precons, all the good Lhurgoyfs with Fauna Shaman & Survival of the Fittest/Natural Order to get Disa out with him. I just cannot believe there is a Jund commander who allows you to draw three cards per turn for 4 mana.
At first I thought Kaito is similar to Grist in terms of that he is a (ninja) CREATURE and therefore can be your commander. But the card doesn’t say “in addition to its other types” and sadly has the limitation of “during your turn”. Hence I assume there is no chance of him being eligible as a commander…
You asked "what do we think". I ...believe... I'm mostly underwhelmed. This set probably wasn't for me. And the degree to which I thought it might, it 'zigged rather than zagged". Maybe it will feel better after more previews. I'm beyond booster tired of treatments. They're not long a 'treat' because we have them too often.
The only real thing that really interested me in the set is the Group Slug precon since I don't have a deck with that archetype. Also, not really a fan of the Paranormal Frame art cards, they look really cheap.
I kinda disagree with this in regards to precons. Simic is Morph/Manifest, but is also meant to be heavy on instants. We did just have a Face Down precon with Kaust in Naya colors with MKM, but given this is meant to use Manifest Dread, I'm guessing we'll have a bunch of Graveyard spellslinging Simic stuff too. Rakdos isn't Sacrifice, it's Group Slug (aka Damage Everyone). I don't think there's been a Group Slug precon... ever? I might be wrong. Golgari is easily the most boring, self mill and graveyard play. Maybe the fact it's Delirium will make it more interesting with like Enchantment/Artifact creatures and lands? But I doubt it. Esper is top deck, which we last had in 2018 with Animatou I think. But this time around it's got Miracle which is a VERY unexplored area, and Enchantments. While they aren't breaking the bank with going extremely different, I think the precons are relatively interesting and different to previous ones, and can explore some nice themes that we've not seen often (Aminatou), ever (Valgavoth) or in a more interesting way (Zimone, I hope). We'll see, but I'm remaining optimistic
The land you showcased at the end doesn't read like that... This is the card Hexproof Enchantment Land, this land enters tapped. As this land enters, choose a color Tap: add 1 mana of the chosen color
@@TaunaMTG Yea yea, we tried planeswalkers as commanders and it worked :) We have that a lot because we only draft commander and have no premade decks. And as many sets have very few legendary creatures we allow any rare/mythic/legendary creature to be commanders. The idea is mostly the same anyways as rare/mythic creatures are "meant to be built around" as with legendary creatures. Or they are very friendly to build around for benefits which feels just right. And we had a planeswalker as a commander, but that was a big risk/reward thing, most things are solved in multiplayer anyways as if something is "too good" people will just attack you until you seem less of a threat or convince them you won't stomp them and so on
I mean, I'm not using buzz words intentionally. Just use words that are in my vocabulary. I don't cater for the algorithm, just have young kids lol. But I apologize if it comes across as not organic or whatever.
@@TaunaMTG it was a joke my man, liked and subscribed !!! Amazing channel dude sorry for sounding like a curmudgeon you are like a rubber band !!! You snap back quick!! i like it !! cheers mate!!
@@TaunaMTGdude you totally don’t i just hate that word man your clearly a super nice and respectful person thanks for not letting my hate for that word make you wanna block me !! lol very well done too… your format is perfect imho with the screen behind you etc , pace, information provided vs opinion is perfect!!
You are EASILY the most underrated mtg channel
Thanks so much! The community have been an amazing support, and I've loved every minute of it
Won’t be for long!
Agreed!!
The way you present your videos and the information, it is straight to the point, very objective, and I love it.
Thank you for all your awesome work!
Hey, you really supported my hype with your predictions and product description. I'm totally getting into this set and I wanted to thank your cover on this, I really liked it. Have a great week!
I love The Jolly Balloon Man as an include in attack trigger decks. Having another option to get the attack trigger without worrying about losing the original creature in combat is always appreciated!
@@AnimalTTC I was thinking of my energy satya deck!
valgavoths lair doesnt require one mana to activate, its the tap symbol, so its a hexproof enchantment land that taps for a color of your choice (chosen when it enters)
Demonic counsel is N U T T Y for standard…
Also nutty for EDH.
Valgavoth is pretty cool… was expecting a bit more for the face commander. Maybe secondary will be better.
@@arsenicwafers7536 it’s absolutely cracked as a commander, there’s so many things that can deal one damage to a player on their upkeep. One turn cycle and you’ve got 3 counters in it and drawn 3 cards
We don't run tutors in my playgroup, but god, do I want that Demonic Counsel art on a playmat. Gorgeous.
Another excellent video, Tauna - stay amazing!
Hey! Just like my play group! No tutors no infinites. Just good ol fashion magic. And we can still pop off by turn 4-7 of we have the right cards in hand. So much more fun this way!
@@tommieboi707 Amen and hallelujah. Game on, my friend!
Good to know i wasn't the only one sitting up in the dark this morning 🤘🍻
Insta buying valgavoth commander deck
@tricksinmyhand704 what exactly excites you about getting it? Just curious because people seem to be more hyped than for the other decks.
@@edwarddaignault5243rakdos style mothman. The community seems to be very excited when moths are involved
@ac1d212 well I own the Mothman deck, so I can relate to that lol. Still don't own a Rakdos deck, it would be a good enough reason for me to pick it up I guess.
@@ac1d212 we love moths...we are moths
Mothman is sorta more like ob nixilis more the the nre rakdos precon coss its once per turn. Unless I'm miss understanding the card
This set looks awesome! Lots of influence from Lovecraft, all the way to Resident Evil ❤
Just watched the reveal but I absolutely wanted to hear your opinion! Thanks for all your content, I also hope to see your preview of a commander deck, best luck 🤞
The jolly balloon man could be a really fun addition or even commander for an ETB based deck especially if you did some kind of shenanigans to untap him repeatedly.
Have you any thoughts on how you've become my most trusted, new MTG presenter in what seems already to be a very choked space?
Thanks mate! Great overview/preview. Love how your channel is growing and evolving.
I’m really looking forwards to this set, the mechanics seem interesting and easily incorporated into regular magic, the only one which is out of the norm is manifest, but that’s returning so it has past support…
Just wished they didnt introduce the modern aesthetic to it, but I guess their marketing think that Stranger Things would sell/appeal more than Lovecraft/Ravenloft. I would prefer the later.
Also agree on the bundle commentary. But they want people to buy more product- I just want the full-art lands in foil. Will they be in regular/CB?
That enchantment land taps to add one of any color, it was spoiled a bit ago
"My Champion Stands Supreme" is actually a reference to the end of the main story, where it seems Val took Winter to use as a champion or host or something.
Thanks! Great overview/preview. I’m really looking forwards to this set, the mechanics seem interesting and easily incorporated into regular magic, the only one which is out of the norm is manifest, but that’s returning so it has past support…
Just wished they didnt introduce the modern aesthetic to it, but I guess their marketing think that Stranger Things would sell/appeal more than Lovecraft/Ravenloft. I would prefer the later.
Also agree on the bundle commentary. But they want people to buy more product- I just want the full-art lands in foil. Will they be in regular/CB?
New sub
I’m so excited for this
Ima try and get collectors for it and the precons
Would be my first collectors set I go for 🎉
I’ve been looking for a clone deck besides the master multiplied and the jolly balloon man looks cool as hell for a pick!
I would guess that Winter's fear is Betrayal, while Zimone's is definitely Compleation
Hope kaito has new voice lines in arena I love seeing my fav destiny boy in my fav card game
So for Zimone, it seems like it can be a combo deck if you hit 2 lands in the same turn? Like rampant growth, cloak something like Aesi or something else that lets you play more lands. Play a land for turn, flip whatever the thing is that lets you play more land, then keep looping that until you run out of ways to hit extra land drops? Or just play a spell like shadowrift with orvar on the field, create a copy of the creature allowing you to have extra land drops and keep going that way?
You read it wrong. It only resolved twice per turn.
Nope, can resolved more than once.
First time she Manifests Dread.
Second and onwards, she flips something faceup.
@@TaunaMTG yeah. It says Otherwise
Ohhhh my bad! Thank you both for the clarification!
Kaito reminds me of The Wandering Emperor. I think he will play similarly and be really good in standard.
Go-Shintai of Life’s Origin is going love those room cards.
animate continues to be an awesome stax commander
what is animate?
@@danieldejesusyanezhernande4675 aminatou
It's not an amount of lands. It's amount of Prime Numbers involved. Ex. if u control 3 lands, it's only +2/+2 becuz 2 and 3 is the only prime numbers
It's the number of lands. "And you control a prime number of lands..." "... Then put that many +1/+1 counters on it." It would have to say "then put a +1/+1 for each prime number lower than and equal to the number of lands you control onto primo" for it to only be each prime number.
The enchantment land at the end looks like it taps for one mana of the chosen, not pay 1 and tap. If thats the case, itd be really nice in enchantress decks. Can they board wipe your enchantment land, sure, but its probably done plenty by the point they enchantment board wipe
Yep. I got that wrong
So keen 🎉🎉🎉🎉
The Eerie mechanic is a AND keyword, so you get the effect when an enchant etb AND you have a room fully open am i wrong ? (you said OR in the vid)
It says AND because it activates whenever either of those happens.
@@TaunaMTG okok MB
Does the jolly balloon man just go infinite with any extra combat creatures that untap lol like combat celebrant
I wish Kaito had Commander Planeswalker Ninjutsu & had the tagline of "can be your commander." He would've been a wonderful alternative for a Ninja typal deck. He isn't too powerful/broken as Yuriko, The Tigers Shadow & he would actually use Ninjas unlike Saturo Umezawa.
I LOVE Zimone's prime number card. I have wanted to & tried to build tribal fractals with the Quandrix Dean but they were way too slow. Mirror Gallery, Mirror Box & Sakashima of a Thousand Faces will definitely be in the 99 to stop the Legend Rule. I want to make a Fractal every time I am on a prime number of lands.
Winter is kind of pushed as a 4 drop legend in Jund colors with that Delirium effect. I mean, you can theoretically be at delirium from casting those self mill and discard/draw spells. You can run the useful enchantment creatures as well as the battles that flip into things with discard outlets (I think there are two in these colors) as well as Grist, Wrenn and Six & Wrenn and the Realmbreaker for your planeswalkers (Liliana of the Veil too if you got the space in the 99) Then just add Disa from the MH3 precons, all the good Lhurgoyfs with Fauna Shaman & Survival of the Fittest/Natural Order to get Disa out with him. I just cannot believe there is a Jund commander who allows you to draw three cards per turn for 4 mana.
How is the enchantments gonna go for bello if there white and blue lol
At first I thought Kaito is similar to Grist in terms of that he is a (ninja) CREATURE and therefore can be your commander. But the card doesn’t say “in addition to its other types” and sadly has the limitation of “during your turn”. Hence I assume there is no chance of him being eligible as a commander…
Unfortunately yeah, he's more like Gideon
How long until it’s on arena
You asked "what do we think". I ...believe... I'm mostly underwhelmed. This set probably wasn't for me. And the degree to which I thought it might, it 'zigged rather than zagged". Maybe it will feel better after more previews. I'm beyond booster tired of treatments. They're not long a 'treat' because we have them too often.
Did they say 9% for japanese showcases? Maybe i heard wrong
The only real thing that really interested me in the set is the Group Slug precon since I don't have a deck with that archetype. Also, not really a fan of the Paranormal Frame art cards, they look really cheap.
Simic commander- Simic stuff (pure value)
Rakdos commander-Rakdos stuff(sacrifice)
Golgari commander-Golgari stuff (graveyard)
Esper commander-Esper stuff(animatou)
Seems like wizards running out of ideas
@Bonkers2 yeah not terribly exciting, but maybe the deck lists will be more interesting when we get to see them lol
I kinda disagree with this in regards to precons.
Simic is Morph/Manifest, but is also meant to be heavy on instants. We did just have a Face Down precon with Kaust in Naya colors with MKM, but given this is meant to use Manifest Dread, I'm guessing we'll have a bunch of Graveyard spellslinging Simic stuff too.
Rakdos isn't Sacrifice, it's Group Slug (aka Damage Everyone). I don't think there's been a Group Slug precon... ever? I might be wrong.
Golgari is easily the most boring, self mill and graveyard play. Maybe the fact it's Delirium will make it more interesting with like Enchantment/Artifact creatures and lands? But I doubt it.
Esper is top deck, which we last had in 2018 with Animatou I think. But this time around it's got Miracle which is a VERY unexplored area, and Enchantments.
While they aren't breaking the bank with going extremely different, I think the precons are relatively interesting and different to previous ones, and can explore some nice themes that we've not seen often (Aminatou), ever (Valgavoth) or in a more interesting way (Zimone, I hope).
We'll see, but I'm remaining optimistic
Kaito is going in yuriko, yesterday
How would rooms and Anikthea work?
It enters as creature with no effect
@@splittingimage7780 you would have to pay the room cost for both in order to unlock them
Valgavoth is such a commander card. It sucks that Duskmourn is yet another Standard set designed around…an unrelated format.😢
I kinda disagree. I think he's worse than Tergrid for EDH myself.
I don't know if it's just me getting old but none of these cards will do me any good 😢
The land you showcased at the end doesn't read like that... This is the card
Hexproof
Enchantment Land, this land enters tapped. As this land enters, choose a color
Tap: add 1 mana of the chosen color
Oh, I thought it said (1) : Add 1 Mana
So it’s Uncharted Haven from Bloomburrow with hexproof added on.
@@TaunaMTGyou can look on MTGpreveiws and you can see the card
@@liveanotheranime3526 👍
Just make planeswalkers as commanders, who gives a shi*. A lot of rules for commander are dumb anyways xD
Can easily rule 0 it. I doubt anyone cares
@@TaunaMTG Yea yea, we tried planeswalkers as commanders and it worked :)
We have that a lot because we only draft commander and have no premade decks.
And as many sets have very few legendary creatures we allow any rare/mythic/legendary creature to be commanders.
The idea is mostly the same anyways as rare/mythic creatures are "meant to be built around" as with legendary creatures. Or they are very friendly to build around for benefits which feels just right.
And we had a planeswalker as a commander, but that was a big risk/reward thing, most things are solved in multiplayer anyways as if something is "too good" people will just attack you until you seem less of a threat or convince them you won't stomp them and so on
i was going to like and subscribe until i heard “bonkers” …ughhh buzz words plz
I mean, I'm not using buzz words intentionally. Just use words that are in my vocabulary. I don't cater for the algorithm, just have young kids lol.
But I apologize if it comes across as not organic or whatever.
@@TaunaMTG it was a joke my man, liked and subscribed !!! Amazing channel
dude sorry for sounding like a curmudgeon you are like a rubber band !!! You snap back quick!! i like it !! cheers mate!!
@@TaunaMTGdude you totally don’t i just hate that word man your clearly a super nice and respectful person thanks for not letting my hate for that word make
you wanna block me
!! lol very well done too…
your format is perfect
imho with the screen behind you etc , pace, information provided vs opinion is perfect!!
Hahaha okay all good. I was like "wait, bonkers is a buzz word?" Lol