back in the day it was a thing to leave sinkholes in a reseal because it would excite the newbs and make them feel safe but wasn't a true target for finance reasons.
Plus you have plausible deniability: “why would I leave a sinky AND Sol if I was searching it?!?!” It’s obvious, but by the time he cracked it there was no reason to not just proceed I guess. It’s a shame.
If it was resealed it was left in the correct sheet order. The commons and uncommons were sequentially perfect, and Wolf and Bodyguard are next to each other on the rare sheet. The other card next to Wolf is Wheel of Fortune 😂
2:25 what the heck are you doing with that knife? You’re cutting the 1nm seal, why are you sawing through the middle of the stack to the handle of the blade?
@@therealtimmy13 What are you talking about? Its all on video if the pack was fake. You inspect the outer for other tampering signs before cracking the inside if its a concern. A bit sketchy since the dude didn't do the pull tab first, but there could have been tampering on the bottom of the outer seal
@@therealtimmy13 That's why you get a dealer that insures the pack in case of fraud. Paymoneywubby has opened several tampered ABU decks, got burned on the first but after that has always had a vendor that guarrentees money back, aslong as it's all on continous video with no cuts ect. If they had a proper dealer they should have taken it straight back the second they saw that hair-dryer reseal. It also helps if you do these things on stream with several people in chat that have opened tons of these before and are actual scholars on ABU card mapping ect. It not only helps with knowing wether something is real but also wether you won the 50/50 coinflip on the island rare slot vs timetwister slot ;P
"Provenance tracing back to 2009" is hilarious. So we know where it's been the last 15 years, but not the 16 years prior? Except for the time it was underneath a hair dryer of course.
And these are the preeminent experts in the sealed magic field. No sealed magic is safe. Either keep it sealed or don’t buy it. Dan got fooled by that Revised box too. I love the guys, but if THEY can’t tell…
@therealtimmy13 you can tell Rudy had a bad feeling since the beginning. I think the guy didn't want to put the owner of the shop in a bad spot by raising the question.
Rudy 100% cheers these people opening up the sealed boxes and packs because it makes all Rudy's sealed prices go up!! Less sealed product means sealed is more rare and therefore MORE EXPENSIVE.
I just can never trust buying those old sealed boxes especially boosters , after I saw a friend who had his own card shop open boosters take out the rares that were good and replaced with rares that were doodoo. He did this with a razor and resealed with a heat gun. This was way back during fallen empires so I’m not sure if the booster packs are still made of the same material , he said it was time consuming but could be done were you could see no tampering.
the only thing that keeps it special to me is, like the guy said in the video, they may be breaking a heap now but theres only a few hundred of some of these items left in the world so we really could be seeing history every single time.
Ya I don't understand why people want to watch wubby, a rich guy throwing money at expensive rare stuff, open anything... it just doesn't mean anything if you can just buy your way through tons of product
Wubby is actually pretty cool but when Charlie opened that starter with him it felt really youtubey and lame and not respecting the sanctity of it at all.
Makes me sick to know how many I opened up in 1993! I'm sure I opened well over 40 of these backing the day. Equivalent to over $1M today, at least. Where's my time machine!,
Dude I gave away my pokemon card collection in the early 00s back then it was propably already a couple hundred bucks today it would have been my retirement 😂 it's done
that was a fun watch, i do have to say i was amused as he keeps going.... its so quiet.... and i keep thinking the best part of this opening is that the POS that normally sits and reads off the sheet on his phone everytime you guys open a pack was either not there or finally a decent human being and shut his mouth. great video thanks guys
After all the beta starters and unlimited starters I opened in 94-97 I can say this had to be resealed and my guess is the person who done it had a copy or pic of common,uncommon sheets along with a decent collection and swapped out cards...I would say both rares were a swap for sure but that Inner seal was nowhere close to any factory seal I've cut open on beta or unlimited starters
Provenance tracing back to 2009 - aka no provenance at all. Its not like searching and repacking started in 2010, right? As a rule of thumb, no Beta product with more than two owners (The OG buyer and you) since 1993 is unsearched.
Dude. Why did he go in fowards the rulebook?! I get it, its just a rulebook. But the seal at the top and bottom was so bubbled out he could have easily poked the knife through without touching the cards at all. Such anxiety
The smartest scammers are going to keep the card order in mind and leave a couple of good to decent cards behind in order to not make it too obvious, especially if they're trying to keep their reputation pristine. They'll earn a bit less and take more time doing so but avoid far more suspicion in the long run. Not 100% sure if this deck was a re-seal or not but from the sound of it, the deck was bought from a seemingly legitimate source.
After opening countless boosters back in the day, i can confirm that one looks cery suspect. Ive never seen a bottom like that. Owned a shop that sold magic from 1994 or so to 1996
a box of packs had 36 rares - a box of starters 20 rares ... both of the boxes were about the same price back in the day. So players always bought the pack box. Thats why so may starter boxes sat.
That was searched and resealed one million percent. Need more TP for those rares! That bottom seal was painfully obvious. You should get your money back. If you can’t trust someone named The Great Cornholio on the internet, who can you trust?
2 things. You could find them but not on top condition. Being pack fresh makes it possible to be worth more than what you see in the market. Specially the ones that were played. Another thing is the experience. I 100% agree with you that is always better to buy singles.
I like how he used the shittiest old knife to open it. EDIT: Don't let Butterhands McNeverusedatoolinhisentirelife open anything ever again...even if it is his stuff. Double EDIT: These guys always using shitty penny sleeves always kills me.
lots of old product was resealed. The 1st edition pokemon booster box with GI Joe cards is something to consider when people invest in old sealed stuff. The idea is that, when someone spends that much cash on something, the seller assumes that it will be left sealed forever. But a lot of people are opening cards these days looking for power and unraveling decks resealed 10 or even 20 years ago with no way of getting their money back from the original “provenance.”
The collation is perfect on this deck, all the cards are in the correct order. I don't know the provenance on this deck, but if it's solid, I don't expect anybody in 2009 or prior would know what order to put the cards in. On top of that, the centering indicates that the cards came from the same sheet. Contrary to what they said in the video, the rares were on the correct side of the rulebook. I just double checked several other RUclips opening videos, and Beta rares are on the uncommon side of the rulebook, but Alpha rares or commons in the rare slot appear on the common side of the rulebook. I agree with them that the inner seal looks weird. IF this was resealed (big IF), they just peeked at the cards and put them all back without swapping or moving anything. The contents of the deck are what the factory put there, the only question is whether someone along the way peeked at them.
@@ashens2 LOL, not even close to the same thing. They're both made with a laser printer, but similarities end there. The Ebon Dragon is printed on paper adhered to one of the filler cards R&D regularly used for playtesting, is intended to resemble the finished product, was created for official company use before the set was released, comes directly from the set designer himself, and is autographed by them. You have a Black Lotus proxy, printed directly on a World Championship blank that was widely available to the public almost a decade after the last set with a Lotus, it doesn't look like any real Lotus, has the wrong font, was apparently printed by a player in Italy, not for official WotC use, not directly connected to any WotC employee, and not autographed by its creator. Additionally, the MIC marks show that they're not created on the same printer.
@@TavisKingsChannel it's not a proxy. The detail of the Lotus needs to be SEEN, which you've never done. All you did was spend months trash talking about me and my card online without any clear evidence. You've never inspected it under a microscope or held it in person. Judging books by their covers is something I didn't expect from you. Which "player" printed my card? Please enlighten me lol
A graded Complete set in That condition? I think the only obstacle financially speaking is that he isn't choosing a main stream grading service. But taco man probably gave him a killer deal
You have to. 30k and ~400 left? You have to open 399 of them, so you can sell the last sealed in existence for 25 million. Thats basic business taco theory.
You gotta clip the crowd "Woooh" and make a short out of it, or I will lol.. jk. That was just awesome, it's like the choir showed up for the rip (indoor voice style lol)
God remember when commons were actually allowed to be good and not just chaff with a few good cards sneaking their way into the common slot by accident?
That was 100% resealed With a hair dryer and extra Taco Bell sauce
Poor guy
Agreed
resealed they shouldnt be like that bellow
and if it wasnt resealed how does he know if it was scanned alrdy ?
The scammed guy was in denial. The bias is real
To experience the Rudy reseal in person…priceless.
Searched pack. That Sinkhole was gifted by the dude that swiped a Mox circa ~2009
how do they know they re not scanned anymore ? lol
@@peterga3658 CT scanner only shows foils...
@@peterga3658 cant scan cards if there are no foils
I think you only can scan for holographic cards?
@@ztr1337 lol !
back in the day it was a thing to leave sinkholes in a reseal because it would excite the newbs and make them feel safe but wasn't a true target for finance reasons.
Hook line and sinker. Fun rip but I knew they were done when I saw that bottom seal 😂😂😂
Plus you have plausible deniability: “why would I leave a sinky AND Sol if I was searching it?!?!” It’s obvious, but by the time he cracked it there was no reason to not just proceed I guess. It’s a shame.
25k sol ring makes my $100 revised sol ring feel not so bad...
@@lionelg4648revised?
@@lionelg4648 more like 5k but only if it’s a good grade
Thanks from the community for dropping the dough to take that dog of a starter deck off the market.
If it was resealed it was left in the correct sheet order. The commons and uncommons were sequentially perfect, and Wolf and Bodyguard are next to each other on the rare sheet. The other card next to Wolf is Wheel of Fortune 😂
AND: If you did that shitty of a job on the reseal, why not just try again? Not like there’s any risk if you’re already resealing it.
still 100% could have just been searched, left in correct order and resealed given there really weren't any big hitters.
OMG its not hard to google, you act like people rush to scam
that makes the chance of a reseal very low. thanks for the info. Im sure Tavis would confirm this too.
@@nickna694 in this level of magic/collectibles, yes they fuckin do lmao. Must be young.
2:25 what the heck are you doing with that knife? You’re cutting the 1nm seal, why are you sawing through the middle of the stack to the handle of the blade?
That inner seal was sus. Just watched another Beta Starter opening on Openboosters and the seal didn't look like that...
No, the seal is usually folded (like cigarette packs) 🙂
When Rudy expresses immediate concern on first glance you got a problem. Surprised they didn't instantly take another look at the outer wrap
Exactly
At that point it’s too late anyway. They were screwed the moment the outer seal was re-opened
@@therealtimmy13 What are you talking about? Its all on video if the pack was fake. You inspect the outer for other tampering signs before cracking the inside if its a concern. A bit sketchy since the dude didn't do the pull tab first, but there could have been tampering on the bottom of the outer seal
@@therealtimmy13 That's why you get a dealer that insures the pack in case of fraud. Paymoneywubby has opened several tampered ABU decks, got burned on the first but after that has always had a vendor that guarrentees money back, aslong as it's all on continous video with no cuts ect. If they had a proper dealer they should have taken it straight back the second they saw that hair-dryer reseal. It also helps if you do these things on stream with several people in chat that have opened tons of these before and are actual scholars on ABU card mapping ect. It not only helps with knowing wether something is real but also wether you won the 50/50 coinflip on the island rare slot vs timetwister slot ;P
the sheet order is right, if it was resealed then they left it as is
I don’t even collect magic, but this guy sawing through it with a butter knife had me raging
didnt matter tho cause it looks re sealed
Some slamming them into the table and then says"corner damage" on the first card like he wasn't the one that damaged them
"Provenance tracing back to 2009" is hilarious. So we know where it's been the last 15 years, but not the 16 years prior? Except for the time it was underneath a hair dryer of course.
All it takes is a hot knife to reseal these 😂😂
@@P99-v6n and some taco sauce
And these are the preeminent experts in the sealed magic field. No sealed magic is safe. Either keep it sealed or don’t buy it. Dan got fooled by that Revised box too. I love the guys, but if THEY can’t tell…
@therealtimmy13 you can tell Rudy had a bad feeling since the beginning. I think the guy didn't want to put the owner of the shop in a bad spot by raising the question.
😂😂
Rudy 100% cheers these people opening up the sealed boxes and packs because it makes all Rudy's sealed prices go up!! Less sealed product means sealed is more rare and therefore MORE EXPENSIVE.
then why would Rudy have opened all his sealed alpha starters?
@@williamlockwood9729 Rudy doesnt open them, he gets paid then open it for the buyer
I don’t think Rudy has much sealed alpha/beta product.
Thx Timmy
The seal on the bottom looked more busted than my ex
facts
Right down to the yellow stripe…. Yuck! 🤢
😂😂😂@@therealtimmy13
Swampy
Like a blown out duffel bag!
Bro you were shaking like crazy. That pack had already been opened and you knew it and kept going.
I just can never trust buying those old sealed boxes especially boosters , after I saw a friend who had his own card shop open boosters take out the rares that were good and replaced with rares that were doodoo. He did this with a razor and resealed with a heat gun. This was way back during fallen empires so I’m not sure if the booster packs are still made of the same material , he said it was time consuming but could be done were you could see no tampering.
Gotta say after watching Wubby’s channel for the last month, none of this stuff feels special anymore lol
the only thing that keeps it special to me is, like the guy said in the video, they may be breaking a heap now but theres only a few hundred of some of these items left in the world so we really could be seeing history every single time.
Ya I don't understand why people want to watch wubby, a rich guy throwing money at expensive rare stuff, open anything... it just doesn't mean anything if you can just buy your way through tons of product
@@wademiller2376 Most of the breaks are through buy ins
Wubby is actually pretty cool but when Charlie opened that starter with him it felt really youtubey and lame and not respecting the sanctity of it at all.
Wow yeah this comment really captures my objections to a Wubby. Just open a bazillion decks and kinda take the magic out of it.
Saint -- "$25k is the value the market is down"
Rudy -- *makes title of video $30k*
Alllllllrighty
🎶Don't you know pump it up, you have to pump it up🎶
its 25k for the pack and 5k for the therapy needed to deal with being scammed for a reseal.
Makes me sick to know how many I opened up in 1993! I'm sure I opened well over 40 of these backing the day. Equivalent to over $1M today, at least.
Where's my time machine!,
It’s about the journey not the destination
Back in the day i owned a shop. Bought and sold hundreds of the power nine and thousands of duals.
That's pocket change. If you have a time machine you go not so far back and buy bitcoin.
@@Shendue right lol
Dude I gave away my pokemon card collection in the early 00s back then it was propably already a couple hundred bucks today it would have been my retirement 😂 it's done
How to turn $25k into $500
Well, $1000 anyway.
This is a re-seal and the guy got hosed.
Man, as someone who started with 3R this was such a nostalgia bomb
Man I love the look of beta cards. The colors are so vivid.
Rudy kept panning over to the cosplay girl and creeping her out. She had to leave to do dorkier things...
I love how they dress up for attention, but then get all upset when people look. =X
Ive seen bags of weed with a cleaner seal than that
…. And the experts forgot there’s a pull tab for early magic hahaha
But then you can't reseal it...
@@gr1mington952 true. And to think it was even put in a case lol
"price doesn't matter" ... "THIS SUCKS"
that was a fun watch, i do have to say i was amused as he keeps going.... its so quiet.... and i keep thinking the best part of this opening is that the POS that normally sits and reads off the sheet on his phone everytime you guys open a pack was either not there or finally a decent human being and shut his mouth. great video thanks guys
Looks resealed
1:37
@@Silvergoldbro wouldn't open anything from these boys
Sure does
After all the beta starters and unlimited starters I opened in 94-97 I can say this had to be resealed and my guess is the person who done it had a copy or pic of common,uncommon sheets along with a decent collection and swapped out cards...I would say both rares were a swap for sure but that Inner seal was nowhere close to any factory seal I've cut open on beta or unlimited starters
I love this content! I know very little about Magic, but this is so much fun to watch!!!
Provenance tracing back to 2009 - aka no provenance at all. Its not like searching and repacking started in 2010, right? As a rule of thumb, no Beta product with more than two owners (The OG buyer and you) since 1993 is unsearched.
I love how someone said “nobody would’ve left a sinkhole in it,” but sinkhole is only a 50$ common these days. In 2009 it was probably 10$
Welcome to Poundtown
Nobody gonna talk about the gold AP Tourbillon that guy has? One hell of a watch. $30k watch right there damn
Brutal. Absolutely brutal. Like getting mild taco sauce when you wanted diablo.
Ive been playing lots of MTG Shandalar so I recognize most of these cards now lol
A game so good it's criminal to not have a sequel/modern version of the game.
That was the first game that I played online.
Great game, still play it once in a while.
The way he opened that pack made me panic.
Dude. Why did he go in fowards the rulebook?! I get it, its just a rulebook. But the seal at the top and bottom was so bubbled out he could have easily poked the knife through without touching the cards at all. Such anxiety
Nice! Ah well Saint, better luck next time. Still looked like a blast to experience.
Epic to see the draws, what a journey, thank you all so much.
Happy to be here at the beginning of the new top Rudy video.
"These are all going to PCG"
LOL
Casual gold Audemars Royal Oak Flying Tourbillon on the wrist of the Magnolia shop owner.
Duh bro these idiots are dropping college tuition on playable cardboard pictures
Good gosh!
Thanks for noticing :)
@@magnoliagaming6910
Opens Rudy Video ... wait...is that Spencer?
@@magnoliagaming6910 I love it when two of my hobbies collide! Beautiful piece.
Love you representing my beloved country with that gorgeous Aotearoa game mat! Chuuur
If it makes you nervous to gamble 25k you shouldn't be gambling 25k.
…um That is exactly why people gamble, for the rush and adrenaline. It’s the adrenaline that makes you shaky.
Thanks for sharing this experience with us!
The smartest scammers are going to keep the card order in mind and leave a couple of good to decent cards behind in order to not make it too obvious, especially if they're trying to keep their reputation pristine. They'll earn a bit less and take more time doing so but avoid far more suspicion in the long run. Not 100% sure if this deck was a re-seal or not but from the sound of it, the deck was bought from a seemingly legitimate source.
It's all scanned bro, I have an MRI in the basement of my Taco stand
These videos take me back so hard to the pre-covid Alpha Investment on location videos
After opening countless boosters back in the day, i can confirm that one looks cery suspect. Ive never seen a bottom like that. Owned a shop that sold magic from 1994 or so to 1996
I see Beta/Unlimited Starter openings really often in the past year or two - Are their just not many booster boxes left of this stuff? Why Starters?
a box of packs had 36 rares - a box of starters 20 rares ... both of the boxes were about the same price back in the day. So players always bought the pack box. Thats why so may starter boxes sat.
Always a fun watch!
These are the pulls that make the good ones fell so good❤❤❤
That was searched and resealed one million percent. Need more TP for those rares! That bottom seal was painfully obvious. You should get your money back. If you can’t trust someone named The Great Cornholio on the internet, who can you trust?
Folks! Hello and welcome back to open boosters!
The most expensive sol ring in the world... History is made !!!
When you realize he could've sold that deck sealed and bought all 5 played beta moxes instead.
He did say it wasn't about getting the best cards. He wanted the experience of opening a rare deck like this.
@@adam551982 If you know who he is, he's already had tons of experience opening vintage sealed like this before.
2 things. You could find them but not on top condition. Being pack fresh makes it possible to be worth more than what you see in the market. Specially the ones that were played.
Another thing is the experience.
I 100% agree with you that is always better to buy singles.
I like how he used the shittiest old knife to open it. EDIT: Don't let Butterhands McNeverusedatoolinhisentirelife open anything ever again...even if it is his stuff. Double EDIT: These guys always using shitty penny sleeves always kills me.
FOOOOOOOOOOLKS!
Perfect example of why you don't buy this.
it's a Gamble.
Go from the Back... That's what she said 😂
& we won't need that anymore... about the sheath when I'm going in the back 🚪 😅😊😮
Is the Lady Caroline the Fab Cosplayer she does some great work!
HISTORY IS MADE - $30,000 - Taco Opening
Hopefully the money made from the video helps ease the disappointment
I must’ve missed the history or that’s just another one of Rudy’s clickbaity titles.
Heyyy, thank you for the screen time!
8:33 Rudy has a full room full of those in his basement and he's hyping and hawking them for 25k a pop like he's the OPEP of cardboard or something.
Pound town gains another resident.
Gouging with a knife instead of pulltab had to be staged lmfao what
my thoughts exactly.
lots of old product was resealed. The 1st edition pokemon booster box with GI Joe cards is something to consider when people invest in old sealed stuff. The idea is that, when someone spends that much cash on something, the seller assumes that it will be left sealed forever. But a lot of people are opening cards these days looking for power and unraveling decks resealed 10 or even 20 years ago with no way of getting their money back from the original “provenance.”
The collation is perfect on this deck, all the cards are in the correct order.
I don't know the provenance on this deck, but if it's solid, I don't expect anybody in 2009 or prior would know what order to put the cards in.
On top of that, the centering indicates that the cards came from the same sheet.
Contrary to what they said in the video, the rares were on the correct side of the rulebook. I just double checked several other RUclips opening videos, and Beta rares are on the uncommon side of the rulebook, but Alpha rares or commons in the rare slot appear on the common side of the rulebook.
I agree with them that the inner seal looks weird.
IF this was resealed (big IF), they just peeked at the cards and put them all back without swapping or moving anything.
The contents of the deck are what the factory put there, the only question is whether someone along the way peeked at them.
Your Bill Rose signed card is the same as my gold Black Lotus and there's no denying it.
@@ashens2 LOL, not even close to the same thing.
They're both made with a laser printer, but similarities end there.
The Ebon Dragon is printed on paper adhered to one of the filler cards R&D regularly used for playtesting, is intended to resemble the finished product, was created for official company use before the set was released, comes directly from the set designer himself, and is autographed by them.
You have a Black Lotus proxy, printed directly on a World Championship blank that was widely available to the public almost a decade after the last set with a Lotus, it doesn't look like any real Lotus, has the wrong font, was apparently printed by a player in Italy, not for official WotC use, not directly connected to any WotC employee, and not autographed by its creator.
Additionally, the MIC marks show that they're not created on the same printer.
@@TavisKingsChannel Stop talking nonsense.
@@ashens2 You're the one talking nonsense, and you've been doing it all year with repeated false claims about your Lotus proxy.
@@TavisKingsChannel it's not a proxy. The detail of the Lotus needs to be SEEN, which you've never done. All you did was spend months trash talking about me and my card online without any clear evidence. You've never inspected it under a microscope or held it in person. Judging books by their covers is something I didn't expect from you. Which "player" printed my card? Please enlighten me lol
Curious about the graded value of all these. Will Saint get back $25K?😬
A graded Complete set in That condition?
I think the only obstacle financially speaking is that he isn't choosing a main stream grading service.
But taco man probably gave him a killer deal
@@arkive11 Probably took him to Hose Town, but at least gave him a reach around 👌
It's not very likely unfortunately. Only if a few of them grade VERY high.
@@arkive11what are the best grading services?
Hell no. 😂
damn 2 Pikachu promos, not bad
Very painful
Thanks for the opportunity to open some Vintage MTG on your channel Rudy!
Hope to do it again soon, but with Alpha 🫡🫡🫡!
You're definitely one of my top picks for handling and sleeving the cards for grading.
You're a pro at that.
If you line up Guardian Angel and Paralyze diagonally, the angel is shooting the centaur. Same artist.
You can tell that guy doesn't smoke cigarettes
lol underrated comment
God I love how floppy these tacos are
shatter "tshhh" love it
Wait, you guys actually OPEN that stuff? You are crazy!
You have to. 30k and ~400 left? You have to open 399 of them, so you can sell the last sealed in existence for 25 million. Thats basic business taco theory.
Saint rules!!
is about the journey and the friends we made along.
cool opening, have a great day!
The guy sitting across from him has a 200k audemar Piguet royal oak extra thin tourbillon.
You can cut the tension with a dull knife! A dull knife COVERED in taco sauce.
Resealed pack! With the new scanning Rudy is probably panicking to get these dumped.
Love you rudy!!!❤
30 thousand opening and he doesn t even know there is a pull tab
Better you than me, thanks for sharing!
You got duped 100%
You gotta clip the crowd "Woooh" and make a short out of it, or I will lol.. jk. That was just awesome, it's like the choir showed up for the rip (indoor voice style lol)
Back in the day I used to run a deck with Veteran Bodyguard + Blessing :P
You can feel that last reveal...
NGL homies AP ruined it for me. That watch is worth 3 1/2 of those decks.
Is Michael J. Fox opening this pack? Bro's hands are shaking like he just got caught by Chris Hansen.
I think packs like this should always be opened with friends and/or people that care about it.
if there was an editor for this,
they'd have used the price is right fail theme at the end.
that AOTEAROA mat is FIRE
God remember when commons were actually allowed to be good and not just chaff with a few good cards sneaking their way into the common slot by accident?
Volume zero
Playback speed double
Brutal