Huge thanks to all of the Companies that have supplied parts for this build! Check them out here! gfb.com.au www.harrop.com.au www.precisionintl.com camtechcams.com.au www.golebysparts.com.au musclegarage.com.au www.hughesperformance.com www.pacemaker.com.au www.haltech.com
Skid Factory suppliers list of names is like a who's who of top shelf parts. With any luck this will be the start of a great friendship and lots of f#@ken awesome cars. Keep up the awesome work!
Can I come and work with you guys? It’s a bit hard doing all this in my shed. With limited tools and space. The things I could do with your work shop................
I've built a few of these bad boys, from trial and tribulation, here are some things to consider: ~Oil pan/capacity 7-9ltrs crank scraper and windage tray, eg High Energy ~Vr-Vs blocks are considered the better choices, additional webbing and relieving for stroker crankshafts. The VT blocks have shown inferior metallurgy and casting faults. ~Quality crankshafts COME or HARROP, ground to accept chevy rods (more selection than Holden) and chevy rear main seal, cross drilled of course. ~ I have used 6 inch rods, better dwell, less reciprocating weight. ~Quality harmonic balancer ~Studs all round ~Cast iron oil pump, low volume, not alloy. I modify them to make pressure relief adjustable. ~Timing chain can be swapped out for the Mercedes triplex chain (same pitch) just need to cut to appropriate length. ~Oil restrictor fitted to centre cam bearing. gallery. ~relieve/smoothen out valley/ lifter area to aid oil return. ~Pre flattened wire head gaskets ~Never use cork gaskets, later model have neoprene sump gaskets, I have always used quality liquid gasket for the valley with no problems. ~Heads, lots of varieties, I have had good results using COME cast iron "Bracketmaster", these are not available new any longer, they were VN OE refinished by COME, with stock size valves, but fitted with sodium filled. More modern alloy, would probably have better figures. ~ Get rid of the "bunch of nana's" , this is where your choice of ignition will dictate your direction. I personally ran carbs so I ran with a Harrop single plane. These engines will produce good HP with longevity, such a shame Holden stopped producing them, in favour of the LS. Its as though their fate was sealed in 1998.
Wish i read this earlier 😅 just finished my 355 build with a roller cam and 10.6.1 comp. Got about 3 hours run time before the permaseal graphite head gaskets blew out into the valley 😑 iv pulled the heads back off and im waiting for my felpro steel oring gaskets to arrive. Hopefully they last longer than the permaseals
Just like to say that as a new owner of a VR that has the V8 upgrade, this is so informative and easy watching that I think I'm using more internet than the kids.
I love the old GM/Holden V8's and V6's, simply designed and they go forever if they're looked after. I've pulled heads off a few 300,XXX km+ ones that have looked about 80,000km old inside
The LS is built by folks that take pride in their work, much like the Japanese, the Canadians. They're very weird to most of us Americans, but I appreciate them completely. LS the world. One tiny thing that I learned the hard way, when using guide plates for your pushrods, you want to use hardened (forged) pushrods. The ones they put in look to be hardened btw, so I'm not whining.
it's because all the keyboard warriors want clickbait garbage and unboxing video garbage not real engine builds. mcm and skid factory are light years beyond most channels in content quality
Hes not wrong it was the TRD boys who showed them how to desighn an engine if it werent for Toyota and Isuzu Gm would still be cranking out shit boxes with small blocks and gutless 6.5 diesels
@@MrRyumaru my teacher at school worked at the gm testing facility when they brought the new desighns to the table and the Trd boys were there to help with it they gave the credit to a gm engineer but if it wasnt for the toyota boys walking them through all the processes for the casting and machining it would of took them longer to get it into production and a new duramax is just two isuzu forklift engines sharing a common crankshaft they used to say isuzu on the heads in early production commercial trucks
@@MrRyumaru thats fine but my teacher legit worked for basically general motors version of skunkworks still does as far as i know but he was telling us about a mid engine supra that the trd boys brought to mid ohio to flex there skills to the gm execs when they were trying to get them to invest in building a truck plant here in the states he said they impressed them pretty good because that mid engine supra they brought over in 1997 spanked the lt1 powered corvette all over the track gm put a hault to them bringing the supra back to the states for twenty years they werent about to let a sister company import anything that smoked there flagship vette but they were more than willing to take a little help from some guys who can desighn a powertrain that is virtually bullet proof short of flat running it out of oil and i used to work on commercial trucks with the duramax diesels and its fact the earlier head castings said isuzu on the emission exempt versions
I always watch till the end of your videos, it's like nearly every movie made by Marvel, you know there's always gonna be an extra scene after the credits have rolled so you always wait till the very end
We did MVM at school (Motor vehicle maintenance) in the 1980's, we had to make cork gaskets for the engine's at the back of the class, some Morris engines from the 1960's... The amount of cork sheet we destroyed must have been legendary.
i just noticed the Australian flag from The Simpsons with the ass and boot!! so glad to see that old Simpsons is a worldwide thing, anyone around my age knows that in the 90's the Simpsons was damn great! Thanks for the great content guys!! Keep it up! love the show, hi from toronto canada!!
23 kids, 9 adults and 15 dogs. A dead roo on the roof racks and a bootload full of grog. Now I'm flash as Michael Jackson now I'm living next door to Alan...
An American an Australian and a Japanese man crash land their plane on a deserted island. After they climb out of the wreckage the Australian decides to delegate tasks for survival, he points to the American "you go out and find some timber to build a shelter, I'll go see if I can find fresh water" He then looks at the Japanese man and says "you go into the wrecked fuselage and organise the supplies" After about 2 hours the American and the Australian meet up and head back to the plane to see how the Japanese man was getting on. There were no signs of him around the site and it was eerily quiet so they decided walk up to the plane to have a look inside, just as the Australian put his head inside the door of the plane the Japanese man springs out of the doorway and yells SUPPLIES!!!!
I remeber in around 1982 mates calling the 308 in my mates Hatchback Torana a 'plastic' motor because they considered their small block Chevs to be a proper V8
The Aussie Unprofessional they were called plastics because every v8 previously was a Chev when Holden brought out the 253 they were seen a cheap plastic copies.
Hey at abt 15.00 ur talking about how the geometry of the valvetrain is complicated etc. It is especially so when the new generation doesnt even try. PS these old engines will never get old in my eyes.
Love this series. Love the Australian content. It’s bloody fantastic. I’m pretty sure people called it “Plastic” because it was a toy compared to a SBC of the time. That’s what my old man says anyway. Can’t wait to see the finished product
I know very little about aussie muscle cars but I hope its a 1973 Torana LJ GTR XU-1 2 door. That would be sick. I’m also a fan of the 1972 Valiant charger.
Pulls out a set of Tri-Y's "Ahh, bugger- they're going for an auto..." A few moments later... "Ahhh, sweet....at least it's a T700!" :D I reckon I know which way it's going now, probably a choice in the long run & should keep things interesting. Best of luck in Seppotopia & looking forward to yers return, thank you!
They were called the “plastic” V8 because they were viewed as inferior or a toy in comparison to the small block Chevy. I think they stood the test of time though. What I find really interesting is that Holden made a prototype overhead cam version before deciding on the LS for VT2
Agree, and tupperware coming on the market then and plastic was pushed quite hard. I think Jack Brabham had a lot of input with Repco Development with his F1 racing, I believe.@@JosephCowen-ru7up
I sure hope you guys figured out some kind of method for drag week this year so you don't have to wear hearing protection while driving between drag stips. Yoda was right, too big exhaust makes it drone. It would be neat to have a kind of removable cap for the exhaust like a baffle, or you could even get fancy with a V-band. If you got a 2.5" down turn for the end that quiets things a lot in my experience.
They dissemble themselves at a similar power level you would expect from an engine made of plastic. Also heavy use of the magic plastic will be required, assuming you want to build an engine to make half the power of a small block at twice the price. Regards, an ex 355 owner :)
If the surprise build is the awesome “T” word on the tuff mounts box, I may be able to finally get Mum to sit down and watch the build. As she had a 1978 LH model with the bog standard 6 cylinder red motor and 4 speed manual when I was a kid around 7 - 9 years old before she got a done up 1984 Gemini.
Huge thanks to all of the Companies that have supplied parts for this build!
Check them out here!
gfb.com.au
www.harrop.com.au
www.precisionintl.com
camtechcams.com.au
www.golebysparts.com.au
musclegarage.com.au
www.hughesperformance.com
www.pacemaker.com.au
www.haltech.com
Skid Factory suppliers list of names is like a who's who of top shelf parts. With any luck this will be the start of a great friendship and lots of f#@ken awesome cars. Keep up the awesome work!
those tri-y headers look sweet.
When you gotta go... you gotta go.
Can I come and work with you guys? It’s a bit hard doing all this in my shed. With limited tools and space.
The things I could do with your work shop................
Enjoy Drag week guys.
I see that caterpillar on woodies top lip has metamorphosed and flown off 😂
Some granny's cooter prolly flexed and snatched it right off his face.😳
DrDisrespect did not approve....
Got a bit breezy and the fluff blew away. Thank god!
He had to, otherwise the yanks wouldn't let him in.
I've built a few of these bad boys, from trial and tribulation, here are some things to consider:
~Oil pan/capacity 7-9ltrs crank scraper and windage tray, eg High Energy
~Vr-Vs blocks are considered the better choices, additional webbing and relieving for stroker crankshafts. The VT blocks have shown inferior metallurgy and casting faults.
~Quality crankshafts COME or HARROP, ground to accept chevy rods (more selection than Holden) and chevy rear main seal, cross drilled of course.
~ I have used 6 inch rods, better dwell, less reciprocating weight.
~Quality harmonic balancer
~Studs all round
~Cast iron oil pump, low volume, not alloy. I modify them to make pressure relief adjustable.
~Timing chain can be swapped out for the Mercedes triplex chain (same pitch) just need to cut to appropriate length.
~Oil restrictor fitted to centre cam bearing. gallery.
~relieve/smoothen out valley/ lifter area to aid oil return.
~Pre flattened wire head gaskets
~Never use cork gaskets, later model have neoprene sump gaskets, I have always used quality liquid gasket for the valley with no problems.
~Heads, lots of varieties, I have had good results using COME cast iron "Bracketmaster", these are not available new any longer, they were VN OE refinished by COME, with stock size valves, but fitted with sodium filled. More modern alloy, would probably have better figures.
~ Get rid of the "bunch of nana's" , this is where your choice of ignition will dictate your direction. I personally ran carbs so I ran with a Harrop single plane.
These engines will produce good HP with longevity, such a shame Holden stopped producing them, in favour of the LS. Its as though their fate was sealed in 1998.
Great info mate.
Wish i read this earlier 😅 just finished my 355 build with a roller cam and 10.6.1 comp. Got about 3 hours run time before the permaseal graphite head gaskets blew out into the valley 😑 iv pulled the heads back off and im waiting for my felpro steel oring gaskets to arrive. Hopefully they last longer than the permaseals
LOL.... “It’s like wiping your bum Woody, sometimes you have to, sometimes you don’t, but you always do it”.
Legend. Watch til the end.
Don't let go of the IRON LION Woody, if you say it enough, it will be a thing. Al's cringing only makes it better ;-)
More like the IRON LIAR. :P
Alan may use that 8 ball as gag ball on Woody. 😂
Just like to say that as a new owner of a VR that has the V8 upgrade, this is so informative and easy watching that I think I'm using more internet than the kids.
I love the old GM/Holden V8's and V6's, simply designed and they go forever if they're looked after. I've pulled heads off a few 300,XXX km+ ones that have looked about 80,000km old inside
Enjoying this build. Got a soft spot for these engines being the last Aussie Holden V8.
Can't believe it's been a year since I watched your drag week.
It looks like it is very therapeutic with all the tactile hands on fitment. I'm feeling quite chilled out watching the assembly, nice work boys!
The LS is built by folks that take pride in their work, much like the Japanese, the Canadians. They're very weird to most of us Americans, but I appreciate them completely. LS the world. One tiny thing that I learned the hard way, when using guide plates for your pushrods, you want to use hardened (forged) pushrods. The ones they put in look to be hardened btw, so I'm not whining.
Apprenticing with Turbo Yoda.
Every day at work is the best day at work.
Ford guy says “Yeah baby”! Such an underrated piece of iron right here!
Bust'n a nut for Drag Week fellas, last year was ace, and this year will hopefully be better. Best of luck.
Bloody Al just flexing his knowledge on everything he works on, hahaha. So Epic.
How is it possible that this channel doesn’t have millions of subs???
Best car channel out there!
it's because all the keyboard warriors want clickbait garbage and unboxing video garbage not real engine builds. mcm and skid factory are light years beyond most channels in content quality
@@rcichosz9223 My thoughts exactly!, yes, low attention span content = more subscribers.
Hahaha an LS is "like a GM Holden motor built by Japanese guys". Love your banter Yoda :)
Hes not wrong it was the TRD boys who showed them how to desighn an engine if it werent for Toyota and Isuzu Gm would still be cranking out shit boxes with small blocks and gutless 6.5 diesels
@@79huddy any sources on that man?
@@MrRyumaru my teacher at school worked at the gm testing facility when they brought the new desighns to the table and the Trd boys were there to help with it they gave the credit to a gm engineer but if it wasnt for the toyota boys walking them through all the processes for the casting and machining it would of took them longer to get it into production and a new duramax is just two isuzu forklift engines sharing a common crankshaft they used to say isuzu on the heads in early production commercial trucks
@@79huddy Yeah an anecdotal story ain't gonna cut it my dude, sorry.
@@MrRyumaru thats fine but my teacher legit worked for basically general motors version of skunkworks still does as far as i know but he was telling us about a mid engine supra that the trd boys brought to mid ohio to flex there skills to the gm execs when they were trying to get them to invest in building a truck plant here in the states he said they impressed them pretty good because that mid engine supra they brought over in 1997 spanked the lt1 powered corvette all over the track gm put a hault to them bringing the supra back to the states for twenty years they werent about to let a sister company import anything that smoked there flagship vette but they were more than willing to take a little help from some guys who can desighn a powertrain that is virtually bullet proof short of flat running it out of oil and i used to work on commercial trucks with the duramax diesels and its fact the earlier head castings said isuzu on the emission exempt versions
I always watch till the end of your videos, it's like nearly every movie made by Marvel, you know there's always gonna be an extra scene after the credits have rolled so you always wait till the very end
What a great Iron Lion build
Al is correct. Google results for Iron Lion is Bob Marley. Woody fails.
Al is always correct, except when he's not, which is rare 👍 Woody has lost his super powers now he removed the ol soup strainer
Google gave me a cards/comics/collectibles store in colorado springs called the iron lion
Strange. My results were for a crossfit gym and some 80s glam rock thing.
Huh...mine gives p0rn results...time to clear the browsing history I guess.
in orange county, i got iron lion soaps
Oi, my lads....great content. Much love from a Texan displaced to Florida.Don't change, don't stop being who you are.
Cork gaskets! Good lord I haven't seen one of those since the early 80's!
Haha there's a good reason it's not in wine bottles anymore.
We did MVM at school (Motor vehicle maintenance) in the 1980's, we had to make cork gaskets for the engine's at the back of the class, some Morris engines from the 1960's... The amount of cork sheet we destroyed must have been legendary.
I've got them going on my Ford Crossflow I'm rebuilding.
@@Rich77UK Now that's dedication to originality!
Thank you for making the end of the video worth waiting for to watch
i just noticed the Australian flag from The Simpsons with the ass and boot!! so glad to see that old Simpsons is a worldwide thing, anyone around my age knows that in the 90's the Simpsons was damn great! Thanks for the great content guys!! Keep it up! love the show, hi from toronto canada!!
Good luck at Drag Week. Love and light to all.
I'm loving the Holden/GM stuff lately guys, thanks for playing with some engines/cars I know about haha
I got 30 friends, 5 dogs and a burnt out blue FJ (aren't I doing well?) and I'm livin next door to Alan ...
23 kids, 9 adults and 15 dogs. A dead roo on the roof racks and a bootload full of grog. Now I'm flash as Michael Jackson now I'm living next door to Alan...
oi keep it down i'm busy been dead ya flog
hey, I wanna know where you hid all the missing money from WA Inc!?!
@@shoominati23 brain burke and JANET homes a court got it all, those cunts dug me up and stole it ....i had it buried with me
Hey, this place look alright
I can't wait to hear this thing running!
Thanks for all the uploads while you're over in my neck of the woods. Have fun and good luck!
You guys are trending!!!! Epic
This channel just keeps getting better!!
Hey Al, awesome to see someone who is as skilled and knowledgeable as you are to still ask for help. Cheers man good work.
Of course I watch until the end. There's usually something cheeky after the credits.
Enjoy your trip to Drag Week in the US. Last year's trip looked mad, so hopefully this is just as good.
Have an Awesome time in the states guy's 😉🙂
Sure it's already been fun🙂👍👍
Boostcruising haha I remember those days
The filthy power robbing ‘bunch of bananas’ inlet manifold... Great job on this build, looking forward to seeing it go into the car. 👍🏻
Funny they used the same style bunch of bananas on the LS motor and it goes fine
An American an Australian and a Japanese man crash land their plane on a deserted island. After they climb out of the wreckage the Australian decides to delegate tasks for survival, he points to the American "you go out and find some timber to build a shelter, I'll go see if I can find fresh water"
He then looks at the Japanese man and says "you go into the wrecked fuselage and organise the supplies"
After about 2 hours the American and the Australian meet up and head back to the plane to see how the Japanese man was getting on. There were no signs of him around the site and it was eerily quiet so they decided walk up to the plane to have a look inside, just as the Australian put his head inside the door of the plane the Japanese man springs out of the doorway and yells SUPPLIES!!!!
Great explanation on the differences between the vn to vt and roller cam set up
Enjoy your trip. Thanks for your hard work on the videos.
🤣😂🤣 the wiping the bum bit at the end, I’m using that.
Cleanest snap of an episode!
Hail the mighty Iron Lion. Love this motor it may not be the fastest or most horses but it's iconic and has the best sound 👌 great job guys 🍻😎
I'll see you guys at drag week! I'll be running a very old car. You'll know it when you see it.
That's a stout valvetrain for something with compression in the high 8's... Surely the pacemakers are a decoy.
baby face is back keep up the legendary work lads
Id say the plastic nickname comes into it because all the 304 's came out in the plastic bumper gen cars
The VK model I would assume.
I thought plastic chev came from the ls series motors having a plastic intake manifold
I remeber in around 1982 mates calling the 308 in my mates Hatchback Torana a 'plastic' motor because they considered their small block Chevs to be a proper V8
I always thought the name had something to do with the engine cover's/intake piping?
The Aussie Unprofessional they were called plastics because every v8 previously was a Chev when Holden brought out the 253 they were seen a cheap plastic copies.
”Long on the top, short on the bottom, just like Woody” 😭
Good ep Al good luck Drag Week, what am i saying...it's a junket and you're there for the food and catering enjoy the drive.
Ty Mackie it’s no junket, you’ll see next week.
@@theskidfactory ha ha just stirring. It'll be the one that sets a new benchmark for you all. Memories, bucket list, new friendships the lot.
Keen to see the rest on your return, great build definitely excited to see what you have for us while your at drag week !!
33:17 hell yeah!! So damn pumped up for another dragweek with the Aussie homies. Ill donate 200 bucks to see Allen drive at every track hah
'Do your best' - bloody legend!
Good luck at drag week boys. 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
All I could hear during the valve adjustment part was Mike Galley from Horsepower on PowerNation saying "half a turn... past zero lash".
Hey at abt 15.00 ur talking about how the geometry of the valvetrain is complicated etc. It is especially so when the new generation doesnt even try. PS these old engines will never get old in my eyes.
Do your best. Stellar, broad advice.
Well done Al!
17:35
it's 112.5°
Cross multiply and divide.
Every degree is .0002
Love this series. Love the Australian content. It’s bloody fantastic.
I’m pretty sure people called it “Plastic” because it was a toy compared to a SBC of the time. That’s what my old man says anyway.
Can’t wait to see the finished product
Plastic because of the thin çylinder walls
I know very little about aussie muscle cars but I hope its a 1973 Torana LJ GTR XU-1 2 door. That would be sick. I’m also a fan of the 1972 Valiant charger.
Pulls out a set of Tri-Y's
"Ahh, bugger- they're going for an auto..."
A few moments later...
"Ahhh, sweet....at least it's a T700!" :D
I reckon I know which way it's going now, probably a choice in the long run & should keep things interesting.
Best of luck in Seppotopia & looking forward to yers return, thank you!
69 bonus point for Allen dropping a "UHF" quote!
Great stuff Al and Woody ... Thanks
Good work boys! Can't wait to see this go in the Gemini!
Have a safe trip, hope to meet you in New Jersey
damn, i was waiting for the 🎱 to appear in the box of goodies Jackson skull dragged in from the bat cave...
1993kawasaki it was in the box with the old lifter gear if you look closely
@@coenlowe93 well.... i missed that LOL good pickup!
Nice one fellas
*boostcruising haha that brings back memories for me of 2001 when it use to be the bomb diggity of car forums for SEQ*
When your boobslosing member number has 3 digits 😬
Always watch all the way til the end.
And it's always worth it :)
Thanks for the upload dudes. My messed up hand cant stop me. Lol Gonna work on my W.J. till its comfortable for me.
Awesome video guys. Always stay to the end of the video. Always. Gold nuggets for sure, every time!
Woody, you look a lot better without that dead caterpillar on your upper lip.
Have a great time at drag week.
See you guys soon
I can't wait for Drag Week 2019! The world is a better place. Welcome to America Gents!
(Plastic power steering reservoir) I love you guys keep it up 🙌much love from the states
Oh, and it looks like the storm this year might miss y'all.
good luck
They were called the “plastic” V8 because they were viewed as inferior or a toy in comparison to the small block Chevy. I think they stood the test of time though. What I find really interesting is that Holden made a prototype overhead cam version before deciding on the LS for VT2
Great engine build, good luck with Drag Week guys, I'll be watching back here in Melbourne, looking forward to the competition of this series 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
I wonder what would Alan do, if he get enough sponshorship to do his dream build whatever it is. i'll not miss any episode of that!
Plastic Motor - inferior injection or because it used an alloy intake and covers rather than pig iron
The reason I heard them refereed to as "plastic is that the early ones, especially the 253ci (4.2L) were renowned for having soft crankshafts.
Crap, they were called plastic as they had alloy timing gears, oil pump, intake, water pump when Ford and Chev used cast iron for all these !
Agree, and tupperware coming on the market then and plastic was pushed quite hard. I think Jack Brabham had a lot of input with Repco Development with his F1 racing, I believe.@@JosephCowen-ru7up
Looking forward to the drag week videos!!!!
It’s true though, even if the first wipe is clean you always go back for a second just to make sure.
Savagely true.
"Like wiping your bum.. Sometimes you need to, sometimes you don't, but you do it every time." Haha classic.
36:13
19:39 that stopper, how often might you check?
Loved the content love the 304 they are good street cruisers love the sound of them love the snap happy response
Man, after binge watching the skiddy boiz I wanna rebuild some heap of shit
Good Work Boys.
You know so much stuff! Great veiwing.
Steel cap Aussie thongs for Jackson!!
Turbo yota the philosophy guy, but he’s right. 👍🏼🏁
The Woody Allen show, was, and still is, the best source of entertainment.
Top end of IRON Lion!!!!
I sure hope you guys figured out some kind of method for drag week this year so you don't have to wear hearing protection while driving between drag stips. Yoda was right, too big exhaust makes it drone. It would be neat to have a kind of removable cap for the exhaust like a baffle, or you could even get fancy with a V-band. If you got a 2.5" down turn for the end that quiets things a lot in my experience.
They dissemble themselves at a similar power level you would expect from an engine made of plastic.
Also heavy use of the magic plastic will be required, assuming you want to build an engine to make half the power of a small block at twice the price.
Regards, an ex 355 owner :)
If the surprise build is the awesome “T” word on the tuff mounts box, I may be able to finally get Mum to sit down and watch the build. As she had a 1978 LH model with the bog standard 6 cylinder red motor and 4 speed manual when I was a kid around 7 - 9 years old before she got a done up 1984 Gemini.
Well explained fellas
THE IRON LION!!! hahahah I'm excited about the drag week stuff!
During Drag Week, Woody should check out "Lion's Den" locations for performance parts for his Iron Lion...👌
Good luck guys,