Laying out the Perfect scroll
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- Опубликовано: 24 сен 2014
- A simple formula to create scrolls to match existing scrolls.
Most architectural scrolls old or new are based on this system whether it be three, four, five or even the six option.
The four system seems to be the most common.
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fantastic I learned something new, Liked
Gary, love your work and videos. Simple. Elegant. Effective. The formula is wonderful! Looking for the next video!
Thanks Gary. More and more I keep coming back to your videos for help and inspiration. Keep up the good work.
Thanks for sharing this and your other videos. I thoroughly enjoy them.
Thank you. That was an awesome illustration on getting the proportioning correct!
Great video !! Thanks for the outstanding training !!!
Thank you for posting such a useful & easy method. Cheers mate.
perfect timing. Just what I was looking for. Thanx
Thank you Gary
Hi, Gary! Congratulations for your videos! You are an inspiration to me, as I became a lonely blacksmith apprentice. I've got to say that I do it as a hobby, and it gives me so much fun!
Again, thank you very much! And please forgive my bad english!
Greetings from Capão do Leão, South Brazil!
Oh my god I have been searching for this forever. Thank you very much for showing this amazing technique!
Greetings from germany!
THANK you for posting this! Super simple and very useful.
Having a bit too much time on my hands, I worked out the ratio of what you have here. The progressively LARGER arcs here are about 1.33 the size of the preceding arc, or an inverse relationship of about .75. That is interesting because the classic "golden proportion" is 1.618 with an inverse of course of .618. HOWEVER...I think yours is far more pleasing to the eye for ironwork; I drew these out (yours and the golden one) and the folks I showed them to actually agree! Yours has a gentler appearance. Thanks very much for posting this.
nice vid Gary. I have been doing fences for more than a couple of years and had never seen that formula before. thanks.
Thanks for posting, learned something new again fantastic!
Thank you very much for this instruction. Well done.
Thanks! I look forward to trying this.
Brilliant video, thank you 👍
Thanks for teaching.
Two Thumbs Up :)
You made this much simpler for me..... great system
Thank, man.
That'll come in handy some day.
Thanks for this video. You made my life a lot easier 👍
Great info! Thanx!
Thank you, very helpful
Thanks !
Fantastic. Got my next demo for the monthly blacksmith meeting.
Genius!!!!
Thanks so much.
Excellent video. Your video helped me make 2 identical scrolls and passed my blacksmith class. I'm now using your video to teach this method to my students.
Wow! I’ll take that as a huge compliment!😊😊
Interesting indeed!
Thanx a lot, sir !
Thank you so much 🙏🙏🙏
You're most welcome
Thank you very much needed this! 💯💪🇺🇸👍
That is great to know!
Well done.
just what i was looking for.
now to build my sroll bender jijiji.
thanks.
Very clever
Nice!!!
Nice video
спасибо. thank you
Nice video. I would like to see a video on the formula about how to make a funnel.
Great
I liked this.i wish I could share my wreck and heeling with you Gary
@@garyhustonI watched this video this morning and I do understand it sorry I didn't yesterday
Excellent idea regarding perfect scroll. May Allah always provide u with such brilliant ideas and we always learn from you
Gratzie
Спасибо.
Great demonstration!! That's a different approach which I like very much.
As a suggestion, try to use one of the drawing compasses like school kids use and put your silver streak pencil in it. I have used those on my steel table top and they work great. Much easier to see than the scribe mark. Only problem is that they don't do large circles. Maybe find a drawing compass that does.
Large circles? Try mounting your pencil in trammel heads mounted on a bar
good 👍👍👍
I use Avogadro's ratio, but this is much easier to plot and trace!
Cool
How do you make the first scroll Gary?can you make a video on that?specially the very tip of it!thank you i love the videos
Don't quite know what you mean by the first scroll. Do you mean the former? If so I have a video already of making a scroll former, for the perfect scroll you just make the former to the scroll drawn on the bench..
ruclips.net/video/v6ZVudcbvTI/видео.html
Fibonacci spiral, or a variation of it. It appears in nature in the same sort of perfection.
Cactus Makeshop It's one of my favourite shapes in the world. :)
Every snail, whelk,etc..
perfecto
Neat technique! A very quick way to get a quality scroll. Do you know if this follows the phi spiral?
No idea what the phi spiral is so can't comment!
Gary..do you have plans available for the belt sander??
In the description of part 11
What kind of pencil are you using? I have soapstone but not in small rounds like you are using.
MARKAL - SILVER STREAK WELDER PENCIL
Para todos los que quieren las medidas, la linea corta tiene 4 pulgadas y la linea larga 16 pulgadas, el resto del procedimiento esta a la vista,en unos dias subo un video a mi canal explicado paso a paso en castellano
I'd like to see the process of making the scroll form to fit the pattern. I've been tickling about with it and it's driving me bonkers!
What trouble are you having?
+garyhuston I was having trouble in getting the scroll form to conform to the drawn scroll. I was trying to hammer it and making too much change all at once. On advice from another quarter I switched to bending forks and had a better outcome. Maybe a primer on the use of bending forks ( and their making?) would fit in well with the other videos. Thanks, Gary L.
Saludos maestro Gary Huston desde MEXICO, seria posible que tradujera su vídeo en español, seria de mucha ayuda para los que nos interesa este tipo de trazos acá en MEXICO es un trazo sencillo pero muy proporcionado en la espiral, gracia spor compartir sus conocimientos!!!
estas son las medidas de las lineas con la que forma el angulo de 90 grados la corta tiene 4 pulgadas y la linea larga tiene 16 pulgadas despues el procedimiento esta a la vista
En estos dias voy a estar subiendo un video tutorial de como sacar esta medida y llevarlo a el metal para realizar rizos y figuras todo en castellano
saludos
Hey Gary,
Cool video as usual. I love formulas and jigs. They make things go quicker easier.
Thanks Ken
Isn't Maths beautiful! Thanks for sharing ;)
I've always called this the 'Ammonite Scroll' - they had this cracked 100 million years ago
RUclips is the rebirth of the industrial revolution.
How would You make a 4" scroll continue to the size of the steel one you have maintaining the 4" pattern if your downsizing , In other words drawing one the size of your steel scroll and yet be a 4" scroll If you know what I mean?
ARCTURUS WELDING & FABRICATION STEEL FABRICATION I know exactly what you mean but for the life of me can't remember how I did it. The whole thing is based about a ratio, I used inches as an example so if you made the units bigger the start would be bigger, there must be a formula but I don't know it! I'll try and remember and post later once I've properly woken up!
Gary Huston Thanks For posting the video, I have been retired since 2001 My last job was Fabricating the steel barrier fence that surrounded ground zero after 911 So that lump thats two foot above my ass Is a little rusty.
Very cool indeed, Gary! :o]
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I believe it's called the mathematical golden ratio
GREAT VIDEO GARY ! YES I HAVE SEEN BEFORE !BUT YOUR STYLE IS BETTER FOR EXPLAINING IT , IT APPEARS IN THE BOOK OF THE GOLDEN RATIO ; ITS INSPIRATION IT SEEMS STEAMS FROM NATURE . GREAT JOB . MIXAEL.
Does the center starting point stay the same? I tried to follow it but it looks like it changed?
No, of course not, watch the video, it starts 90 degrees from the end of the last line..
I tried to recreate this in CAD and the centerpoint absolutely changes. Take a look at 2:42 in the video. When he uses the shorter dimension from the triangle on the second line (from 4" to ~3"), he orients the previous ENDPOINT _towards_ the previous CENTERPOINT, but it's short! The compass then creates a 'new' centerpoint that is used to rotate 90-degrees. I discovered this when I used a single centerpoint for all the dimensions, and none of the arcs were 90 degrees. Clearly the compass can ONLY make 90-degree arcs, so the centerpoint has to move.
Corey W the start point always just joins the end of the previous line and the new center point is at 90 degrees. The center point is almost irrelevant.
Corey W very easy in CAD if you understand the principal
Amigo me podrías regalar las medidas en cm para poder hacer esa espiral gracias 👍
estas son las medidas de las lineas con la que forma el angulo de 90 grados la corta tiene 4 pulgadas y la linea larga tiene 16 pulgadas despues el procedimiento esta a la vista En estos dias voy a estar subiendo un video tutorial de como sacar esta medida y llevarlo a el metal para realizar rizos y figuras todo en castellano saludos
clever you are...
A bit confused on the center. Are you using same center point each time??
No, if you watch the video you will see the next 90 degrees starts at the end of the previous one so the center point is perpendicular to that.
I think you've might have forgotten to mention that when continuing each scroll segment, the pin of the divider needs to begin at the perpendicular of the tangent.
Wasn't that obvious from the video? Not that I understand a word you have written!
Yeah but it felt like if you didn't show it, most people would just freehand it and not actually ever know the origins of the perfect scroll.
John Mirror
But I did show it, weren't you watching!
Oh crap... that's my attention span for ya! lol... No wonder my prof's always ask me if I'm listening when they're talking to me... lol...
John Mirror
LOL! I may not have made a lot of it but I think it was there! I think as soon as anyone were to try it out they would soon realize if they were doing it wrong....
cuales son las medidas?
+manolo fg what ever you like!
estas son las medidas de las lineas con la que forma el angulo de 90 grados la corta tiene 4 pulgadas y la linea larga tiene 16 pulgadas despues el procedimiento esta a la vista En estos dias voy a estar subiendo un video tutorial de como sacar esta medida y llevarlo a el metal para realizar rizos y figuras todo en castellano saludos
Procédé fort intéressant, mais il aurait été mieux de faire la démonstration sur une feuille de papier. Merci Monsieur Gary Huston. Yvan-Gilles
interesting
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You tube university to the rescue again. Thanks!
Great video,,but should of used paper,,,that screeeeech made me hairs stand up !!!...lol
Golden ratio. Phi