4k miles later, the good/bad on 2021 Ford F-150 Powerboost Hybrid
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- Опубликовано: 7 май 2021
- In this video, Tim covers the good and bad on the 2021 Ford F-150 Powerboost hybrid after putting over 4k miles on it for the past 5 months. Watch now to see what he likes and doesn't like about the F-150 Powerboost.
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I love the chrome - she’s good looking truck you should be proud.
I don't worry about recalls. I am happy they are doing them. Go back 20 to 30 years ago and most of the things that should have been recalled was stuff you ended up paying for.
only reason that’s the case now is because the government got involved and started lemon laws & other such protections for customers.
I agree with your statement about customer expectations. If I am going to spend around fifty thousand for a truck it better be a good quality vehicle.
Guess you're never driven a new maserati or alfa romeo. Lol
This ford-- in king ranch and above trim level-- isn't lagging anywhere compared to my amg e class in interior quality.
50? North of that buddy!
@@SPHINX144 the interior materials on the AMG E are in a completely different ballpark of quality compared to Ranch/Platinum/Limited. Yes, they are nice trucks, but they are using low end veneers in very small quantities... the doors have barely anything on them other than plastic. The interior in general is like 90% hard plastic with 10% dressed up trim. The AMG E is loaded with ultra clean carbon fiber and has grossly superior infotainment and seat quality, steering wheel, screens, the list goes on.
@@SPHINX144 I'm not sure u have an amg or have driven top Ford trims. I owned e63s AMG and currently own 2020 f150 limited and interior quality and materials in AMG are much better its not even close.
Another great video! Thought I would pass my experience with the new F150 Hybrid.
Just returned from a 2000k trip towing a 6000 lb RV trailer to Rapid City, SD in my 1 month old 2021 F150 Lariat. We used the truck to power the RV when boondocking. I can say I am very impressed overall with the amazing electronics but also have a few gripes. 1) my mileage towing has been terrible. Averaging between 5 and 6 mpg at 70mph. I do hope that will get better once the truck is broken in ( you'd think it would be by now). 2) When driving in town (kansas City) I have been really impressed with my mileage, so not all bad. Driving in the mountains was effortless, and my gas mileage was incredible when not towing.
3) The center console shifter, really is rather "clunky". I have always been a fan, but think it is time for Ford to do away with it. 4) I have not had any annoying squeaks but do agree, the electronic alerts make you feel like you are driving "a nag". Seems like the vehicle is always "harping" at me about something. I understand the need for warnings but they should figure an update to tone that down, once you have been recently warned.
Keep the videos coming!
"2000K?" That is 2000,000 or do you mean 2000km (kilometers)?
Terry thanks for great feedback! Dont care for that lie towing mpgs
Terry how many miles do you currently have on the clock? We're also in KC and looking to get a new f150. Seems you can only find 2.7 and powerboosts right now, if at all. Curious how yours is holding up and if you've had issues.
Solid reviews on the F150 amigo! I like how you own these long term reviews vs other channels that just hit the high points and then you never hear about them again.
My buddy bought this truck yesterday, he took me for a ride and this truck can drive it self. Nothing new these days, but really nice to have. The seats were so comfortable, 110v and 220v outlets in the truck bed, 110v outlets on the dash for the passenger, interesting set up. Its leather inside, chrome package and I think he got it for $58k. We all have so many options these days.
All killer no filler! That was a great list Tim. I'm glad you kept this and not sell it like you thought you might earlier.
Great video. Much prefer the longer term reviews than someone who drove it for 20 minutes in a press event telling me it’s the greatest thing since sliced bread 👍
THERE IS NORMAL CRUISE CONTROL. Found simply under driver assistance setting, super easy to find.
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Tried to tell him that awhile ago.
Ford tech here.. my primary concern with these trucks and why I won't own one myself, (yet) is the hybrid drive assembly. It consists of the engine clutch, electric motor and transmission torque converter. It comes all in one unit , and sits between engine and transmission. Ive done a few 40, 50, 60k mile trucks that the clutch failed, which requires replacement of the whole assembly because its non-serviceable. The part alone is $7500, plus the labor is intensive due to having to remove the transmission to replace it. Luckily, ford offers an 8 yr/100k mile warranty on hybrid components, so due to that ford covered each one. But I would be very concerned about needing one of these after warranty period if you do keep the truck for that long. Some people put 100k on a vehicle in a few years. The whole bill parts and labor was just shy of $10k that ford paid, id hate to see a customer pay that much for a freaking clutch.
As a new PB owner I really enjoyed your video! I bought a PB lariat with the 7.2KW generator option. In a week I've found I use the generator almost daily on my farm. I use the 240V outlet with a splitter cord that supplies 6 120V outlets. For my small welder I have a 240V adapter cable. That was one of the big reasons I bought the truck. Yes, I could buy portable generators. The closest equivalent inverter generator is the honda 7000 watt inverter generator which runs about $5k. I have a 15KW pto generator and small 4KW portable. I really love the generator and the rest of the truck too!
Why do I like the generator? 1) I don't have to worry about gas 2) quietest generator there is except for a solar/battery genny 3) efficient; unlike other generators this one does not run constantly unless I am doing something like welding 4) no more lugging generators around or hooking up the generator to my tractor. 5) convenient...I always have power where ever I am with the truck.
An amazing piece of trivia, at least for me. I just sold my original owner 94.5 F350 XLT 5spd RWD CC power stroke ... and the tow rating for that truck was less that the tow rating is for my lariat with the standard tow package.
In a previous life I worked quite a bit with electronic manuals so I don't find them as off putting but do understand.
Noises...yep annoying but moving from my first generation powerstroke to this is like night and day. Have owned hybrids before...braking, weather and speed are all major factors. Again I really enjoyed your video (s) thank you!
You are so correct. If after a long trip. If you back and butt do hurt, the seats pass the test. 👍
I grew up in Iowa. We always had our new cars sprayed under the car to protect it from the salt so it didn’t rust.
You can select regular cruise control by making the change in the settings. Haven't had the radio station random change but when my wife was driving see would hit the tab button on the wheel accidentally changing the station. While I get the gripe about the rust on the unpainted areas under the truck, I do appreciate the care taken in painting the inside of the boxed frame where the cpetitiom doesn't.
Tim I have a 2020 never looked underneath till I saw your video on it it had the same issue as yours I used a black rustolium paint and it still looks like I just did it. I will probably spray it again at the end of the summer
I had a 2019 XLT 302A package and it had none of these options nor were they available. Sold it and bought a 2021 F150 Limited 4x4 Powerboost. It's an amazing truck!
It is a very nice truck. I like the chrome also.
I definitely agree with you on the seats. I found the leather seats in the King Ranch to be really stiff and uncomfortable, but I just melted into the cloth seats in the XLT.
I like that my ram has 2 different buttons on the steering wheel where I can choose between adaptive cruise or regular cruise. Love the power in bed features.of this truck.
Another great video
Would love to see a real world gas’s mileage comparison using same route between hybrid and a normal 3.5 .
Thank's for the update. Enjoy your organized and thoughtful reviews. Had just put a deposit down on a 2021 hybrid XLT. This will replace a bullet-proof 2008 Toyota Highlander, and be a trailer tow rig, replacing a problem-free 2006 Sprinter camper-van. Our other car, a two year-old Tesla; has few quirks, and solid build. Now poised to pay the same as the Tesla, for something that comes out of the gate squeaking, leaking, rusting and false-alarming, with glitchy gauges, and useless owner's manual. Finger's crossed.
Tim, this is a great video that I greatly enjoyed.
Now would you please also do one identical to this one for the 2022 Toyota Tundra when it finally comes out next year?
Thanks.
Excellent Update Tim. Also it's just surface rust don't worry too much about it.
Great overview. Really well done.
Tim -Thanks Great story and review of the F150 Powerboost. Based upon the small differences in fuel economy I think I will stick with a 3.5 Ecoboost. Great down to earth everyday driver review. Your reviews cover a lot of issues that several other RUclips channels seem to overlook.
Really helpful, thanks! How did you take care of the rust on the undercarriage?
Great video I'm getting the V8 2022
My 2012 FX2 Ecoboost has 207189 miles on it and still running strong. Never any issues.
A useful summary, Tim - thank you. Some gripes will be addressed over time by flashes and OTA fixes. The one BIG issue you overlooked - which you struggled with when finding a Powerboost before 12/31/20 - was the stupendously poor job Ford did with its rollout. This is now disguised by the microchip shortage but remember all the 'built' F150's that were stored awaiting quality follow-ups. Orders going back to Fall are still awaiting production. Windshield, door alignment, some drive train rust issues far beyond yours. And zero communication from Ford.
Very true on the rollout job.
I’m quite impressed with this truck. It generally seems to be well thought out and is presented on an attractive package.
In fact, Ford seems to be coming alive lately. That Bronco Sport is a very capable with an AWD system that is rivaled by few in its class.
The rattle is exactly what I’ve complained of. It’s the black triangle piece between the window and dash. Wedge about 3 toothpicks under abs and break them off. Fixed!!!
My friend took delivery of a Powerboost Lariat a couple of weeks ago and we spent the day visiting him and his wife last week.
There was a lot of conversation about the new truck and the special order experience.
Both of them expressed that the truck kinda jerked and did not feel very smooth when starting out and when it shifted between electric and gas power in normal driving the engine starting up and the switch over from the motor was not smoothly executed.
They both expressed hope they would get used to it.
Hollis took me for a drive and everything they had talked about was very evident to the point I wondered if something was wrong with it.
This week I test drove a Powerboost King Ranch and a Platinum 3.5L.
The King Ranch Powerboost operated exactly like my friend's Lariat and the Platinum 3.5L was unbelievably smooth and the engine/transmission operated seamlessly.
Functionally I understand the way the hybrid system works but the low level noises associated with the regenerative braking is also annoying.
I know it is a first generation effort for the F150 hybrid but I was surprised at how unpolished it feels to drive or ride in.
On the plus side Hollis and I sat out in the truck for 30 minutes having conversation and the way the air conditioner works on the Powerboost is impressive.
Temperature was in high 90's and the battery operated the AC keeping the air very cold, once in a while the truck would start itself and run for a couple of minutes and then turn off.
Anyone that normally idles their truck for long periods for the AC would really appreciate this, I do not know if the battery operates the heater or if it is still dependent on hot water flow.
I like the FORD innovation and I think that truck looks pretty good. Although I hate the digital owners manual. If you blow the fuse for the display, for whatever reason, how will you look up the location of the fuse block, especially if there is a hidden one behind a kick panel or something else weird that might not be intuitive and you need to look it up. I know you can use your phone but I go many places that are our of the way and don't have service. I am sure people will give me a 1000 and 1 ways to look it up but in my opinion give me a paper manual any day. Thanks for all the great videos.
ford cuts costs at any place possible where people won't initially notice it... go try to drain and fill your diffs in 5 minutes! go.... NOW
strait up awesome review.
Great review!
My son bought the F250 7.3 push rod engine. Very reliable .I like Crome too. The lariat is the Best Buy for goodies or the 302 package on the XLT. Get the big screen radio because is expensive to install a after market Kenwood .Love my 2016 3.5 Ecoboost. Strong engine after 40,000 miles.
you're right, sensors and electronics will determine longevity. but it's the same for all vehicles now, so many sensors and microchips etc. 20 yrs from now, doubtful there will be any way to replace. I have 2018 F-150 Lariat 3.5 EB - no issues so far, tow 7,200 lb travel trailer, no issues, incredible power for 1/2 ton, Would love to have the on-board generator, but can't justify upgrade just to replace my stand-alone inverter generator in the bed of the truck now. :-)
I have a powerboost very similar to yours. I live just south of you a few hours. My pickup just hit 10,500 and my mileage is much better than it used to can’t tell if it’s just broke in or if a software update helped.
To add on to my MPG comment of the ecoboost, one owner in the forums suggested to lock out 10th gear and raise the RPM to about 1700-1800 when cruising 70-75 mph, (depending on the gear ratio). Reason being, the slightly higher RPM increases the horsepower without dipping into the boost. Cruising at 1500 will lug the engine, forcing the turbos to increase the boost. The boost is what kills the MPG. It sounds counter intuitive, especially to those with V8s and other NA engines but it does make sense. I have yet to try it, but my truck is a 2012 steel body with the old 6-speed and 3.73s.
Tim, let us know if you get time to do another interview with victor and his second tundra with the mileage and what kind of issues he has had using it as a hot shot driver. Your interviews with all those guys have been awesome... nice update video as well sir...👍👍👍
I’ve been keeping up with Victor. Probably another 2 years until he gets close to a million.
Awesome. I wonder how many miles he has on the truck now and if he’s had any major issues... thanks again for what you do for us tim. Love the channel sir...👍👍👍
Since it's a hybrid, your braking technique impacts your gas mileage. Nice, easy, coasting braking charges the battery much, MUCH more than short, hard panic braking.
you are 100% correct. i have brake coach and ev coach on mine and it helps a lot
My Frontier undercarriage has some kind of coating on it, but it's peeling off. Not worried though because I get it sprayed with Rust Check annually.
Great video thanks!
Very cool video… Do you Sir, or does anyone else have any thoughts about this particular year being a huge re-design year..and those are usually the models that have issues since the kinks haven’t been worked out of them yet.?? And if so, does Ford have teams that constantly assess new problems like the ones you’ve mentioned..??
Trucks cost more these days, but they do have more features standard, too. Interesting! thanks for your follow up.
Very nice review!
I have the same rattle in my Powerboost XLT on the driver side, based on where you pointed. Mine is coming from the triangular plastic piece by the A pillar. It rests on a horizontal plastic trim piece on the top of the door panel. I haven't fixed it yet, but it should be easy--maybe a little wedge between the two?
Nice video. Is that the 6.5' bed? I'm curious what your payload, gvwr and gcwr were on that particular model.
I have always liked the color of your truck.
I like to have access to the truck manual digitally, but always prefer a printed copy.
I would imagine you can down load and print almost anything
Hi Tim. Couple questions. Have you done a video comparing the hybrid to the 2.7 turbo boost for MPGs. Or know anyone who has. I am interested in those two for MPGs and daily driver. Also, have you heard of any improvements for 2022 for hybrid such as more power for the electric battery? Thank you and appreciate you taking time
I traded my 2.7 for the Power Boost. The 2.7 averaged 20mpg for 63k miles. I never drove in the economy mode, mostly normal mode and sometimes in sport mode.
Thanks for sharing. I got an AMB Platinum with 3800 miles and am getting a range of 24.5 to 31.5 mpg.
Crazy how much the mpg varies.
What's AMB?
@@anthony2558 AntiMatterBlue
Good point, Ford wants (a lot) more for their trucks now-a-days. Ford better expect the customer wanting more for that price. Also, good video.
Richard although I still think it is insane how much I spent on my truck, for example that xlt with 302a package to me at least is pretty sweet. And absolutely not like previous xlt models. They have added so much more standard features
I own a 21 f150 but 302a high package powerboost and I found Whats rattling. Remove the mirror cover trim on the doors and you will find a 7mm bolt that holds the door panels on tighten it. For some reason they’re all loose from the factory.
Hope that helps.
Excellent comment on the XLT being a much heavier optioned vehicle than it was before. The safety features alone are great, but with the 302 A package it is a VERY loaded vehicle. Especially once you get into the hybrid and add the moonroof into the package. Better brakes, better frame, better suspension better powertrains, more comfortable, better fuel economy. It’s just not the same anymore, the XL actually compares to a 2005 XLT.
Yeahhh, the recalls are just there. Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Mazda the more “reliable” brands all have recalls. It’s what happens. Now if the vehicle is breaking down and stranding you,,,,, then it’s time to get p*ssed off.
I haven’t had any real issues with the varying fuel economy. I drive in a very consistent manner, mind you. I don’t speed, I use cruise control to a fault really, but my driving is really consistent unless I’m going off-road. Then I drive to the conditions. 2 friends drive F150 Hybrid Limiteds, $94,000 Canadian dollars!!! One drives as fast as he feels. He shouldn’t because he is half deaf so the trucks being so quiet as they are now, he drives frighteningly fast sometimes. His fuel economy is all over the place and he complains. We can’t get it through to him that the speeds he drives, a Prius would be hard on gas!! The other friend doesn’t trust cruise control, never has, and his fuel economy is not as good on the highway, but the same in the city. I haven’t had a chance for quite a while to speak with the other few guys that have bought Hybrids this year. I know initially one of the guys that was able to snap up a XL that was dealer ordered as it was still on the transport truck!! Hahaha. He drives a lot like me and was initially doing very similar with the fuel economy. I have not noticed a difference yet in the fuel economy between the XLT hybrid I had before the accident, and the Lariat I have now. I do have a slightly different levelling kit and what I think are better tires in BFG KO2s versus the Cooper ST Maxx I had on before. If anything it is possible the Lariat with more features could be less fuel efficient, but the tires are making up for that.
My biggest complaint lately is that there are a lot of hybrids starting to show up in my area and I often end up in a discussion about the trucks and the conversation goes,,,,,,,” did you try this? How was it? Did you try that?? How was it? And if you know the answers and they don’t, they use you for the manual instead of reading it for the,selves!! Hahaha. I just stay out of the city instead! Haha. I was fueling up today in the small town we live near, and wound up in that discussion at the gas station. Now when they ask, I say nope, not yet, but will try it out soon and play stupid as possible (not that hard for me,,,,,).
I love my truck in Iconic Silver. Would prefer the Blue, but you cannot get that colour with the sport appearance package and I like the 18 inch wheels! I kept them with the lift and they look good with the more aggressive tires. The recalls are not too annoying to me. I haven’t had quite the issue you have with the trailer on behind. When I back up, it’s a bit annoying having to ok the fact a feature is off. They can do better than that. I have t had it freak out when I left it hooked up overnight though. I have had it hooked up to a 18 foot V-nose car trailer and a R-Pod travel trailer. I love the generator feature. The truck is faster than my 2019 Raptor, but not much. I can feel the difference off the line though.
Time will tell if the features stand up well. I’m gonna test the heck out of them this summer. If we come out of lockdown, we have a package waiting out at the off-road area we use to build a very large shop with 3 of the walls being sea containers and a wooden front for the overhead doors to close it in fully. Gonna be fun!
I liked the video Tim!! Thanks!
Nice Review, I usually like the sport trim with body color on trucks and I prefer them on the RAM and GM trucks but for some reason I to prefer the chrome on the F-150. Only thing this XLT lacks is 4WD auto both GM and Ram offer that on their mid line trucks. I think it would be especially beneficial on the Ford with so much power and being extremly light on the rear end, would be nice for driving in the rain.
So, I actually said Auto 4wd out of habit. Luckily I caught it in editing and cut it out. I can just hear the comments on that slip of the tongue!
I bought the 2021 Ford F-150 limited hybrid nothing but issues I’m at 8,000 miles I do a lot of driving. The wind noise is a issue with mine as well. My exhaust rattles extremely loud I’ve taken it in to the dealership now 4 times. I have had so many issues with this truck I am actually in the process of a buy back. And I was approved. Shifting issues, AC blowing hot air had to restart it to get it to have the AC blow cold. Im extremely upset. I did watch your videos in the past prior to purchasing this truck and I liked alot of what you had said well now I regret the truck completely.
Man that sucks. Sorry for your bad luck.
I agree. I test drove a Platinum and it had the same rattle issue but on the driver side. It sounded like the tweeter speaker rattling around in the housing. For $73,000, that should never be an issue.
Hey Tim,
Thanks for sharing your feedback.
Would love one spec made, with anti matter blue or rapid red. Not only could I camp in it but when I need to tow something I can!
If I was driving in a headwind I was down to 13 miles per gallon with a 3.5 turbo if I wasn’t I was up to 22 it was all over the place also.
I have a little over 4,000 miles on my hybrid F150 as well. Do not have any rattling issues, sorry to hear that. The MPG is weird, basically if you hot rod around in it, you get awful fuel economy. Only negative I have is the beeping when its in reverse. Wish I could turn that off and just have the engine kick on every time I put it in reverse. I also had one software glitch that scared the hell out of me. Fortunately it has only happened once. Don't need to go into details, but I almost had to change my pants.
LOL no changing your pants.
Seriously considering this pickup
that bit about the truck beeping with trailer issues and maddening, repetitive warnings in simple scenarios is why we need people doing this kind of review on vehicles. To many utubers get a vehicle for a day or two and then make a video. This is good stuff.
Can't wait to see the 300,000 mile review!
Just kidding. I do hope u keep this longer to illustrate the issues that creep in but in this line of work you probably have to switch vehicles more frequently. I think being the guy that does a 6 month, 5000 mile review could be a niche you could own. Buuuut then u could do only 4 a year...Also, maybe the odd fuel economy jumping around comes from using the truck to power electrical equipment?
How does that work? If you run a trailer and/or a saw/welder does that show up in the MPG in the trip computer?
When you use the power like you described, you’ll see the trip odometer update the mpg downward for the trip.
helpful video - will stick with my 2017 Platinum ... don't want beeping when I'm backing up and DEFINITELY want a paper owners manual
Great video as usual.
I wonder if the radio changing has to do with multiple key fobs.
Hmm... I only use one though.
@@Pickuptrucktalk hopefully gets fixed with an update. Sounds pretty annoying.
Hey Tim. I'm concerned about electronics too. I'm mechanic and what I'm seeing in my daily jobs is that modern electronics (including control modules) are not as reliable as old ones (90's). I'm from Latin America ( part of our country fleet is really old but reliable ) and I can tell you that most of my jobs are in "recent" cars (>2003). Sensors, harnesses, connectors, control modules, actuators, all of them fail, for me, heat cycles are the number one enemies. Greetings
More electronics = more expensive repairs IMO.
We have a 19 ram Cummins and a 18 f250 lariat 6.7 the truth is the ram is well built and gets better mpg .The rattles and other crazy faults like the trailer codes going off are just annoying.6.7 is a power house but so many problems with it make my next truck a ram so far.
Great review Tim. Surprised the zone lighting did not make the like list though.
Damn. I thought I included it in the features. I was trying to be concise.
@@Pickuptrucktalk I may have missed.... will watch again
The inconsistent MPGs is just the nature of the 3.5 ecoboost, even now on it's 3rd generation. I've own my 1st gen for almost 9 years and I have yet to get consistent mpg on hwy driving. City driving is pretty consistent though... consistently horrible at 14mpg. I wonder how consistent the 5.0 is? It may be lower than what the ecoboost can achieve but I'll be happier knowing its gonna get 20-21 mpg on the highway every time!
i consistently get 17.4 mpg combined in my 2015 5.0 and still do now in 2021. I'm about the switch to the Powerboost early 2022. The improved mpg will be nice but its the 7.2kw inverter I really desire.
I bought a '21 Lariat 3 weeks ago.
Yep, we are in a truck shortage due to the microchip issue.
There was not a Hybrid available within 500 miles of my home but I did get the 3.5 and almost every option.
MSRP was $72,xxx and the dealer added a $3K markup.
Having sold new Fords back at the turn of the millennium, I knew about invoice and holdback.
I managed to get the truck for a fair price below MSRP inspite of strong protests from the dealer.
-My power running boards are very noisy.
-I have improvement suggestions for the front and rear cameras.
-I bought the FX4 package and wish those cameras were mounted lower, perhaps fish eye lenses and would operate in off road modes while moving 5mph.
- I do not like the power stowing shifter.
- I do have worries about electronics longevity and durability, I live in humid, coastal Oregon.
Those are my observations after just over 500miles.
So much money.
Thanks for the update, Tim. 4K miles is nothing, I’d like to hear a review after about 20k miles.
20k miles would be a lot for me. Going to need another tax write off next year which means new truck this Fall. I don't see myself driving that much through the summer.
@@Pickuptrucktalk Is that tax write because you use it for business?
@@TheRetiredVeteran yes.
I wish Chevrolet did something like this paired with their 3.0L diesel. I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
Did you check out the 40/20/40 front bench seat on the fords? They seem hard to find but I think the armrest space you get is more comfortable for road trips.
I haven’t checked out a bench seat Ford in a while.
Nice job
I agree I wish I could get a printed manual
It is online and you can print it. www.fordservicecontent.com/Ford_Content/Catalog/owner_information/2021-Ford-F-150-Owners-Manual-version-1_om_EN-US_09_2020.pdf
One of your annoyances on the fuel mileage probably has to do with headwinds. The truck is lightweight and the wind takes its toll on fuel. I have a 21 ecoboost KR and I am pretty happy. I’ve owned a 16,18, 19 & now a 21. The only real issues I had in the past was on the 18 (5.0) with bad starter they didn’t want to fix. The 21 is so much quieter as well. Like your video and appreciate you getting directly to the point. Keep it up!!
My 2021 F150 Power Boost is changing stations on me also, thought I was hallucinating but I never change my station. Thanks for confirming that I am still sane!
People tell me it’s a Sirius XM issue. The advice is to have Sirius resend the signal to activate the radio.
The only real issue I have with the 3.5 EcoBoost is the waterpump replacement...maybe it's a little different with the F150, but with the SUV's and cars (Taurus, Explorer, Flex), the waterpump is an expensive piece of preventative maintenance to be done about every 100k miles. That's my concern with the engine/truck lasting 300k or 15 years+. The tech (ECU, TCU, etc) don't bother me.
I have the base model 2021 F150 4WD XL. They skimped on many things, but my old truck engine (2009 fwD F150 XLT 247,000 mi.) blew up in June and it was 120F and almost nothing was available and the dealers wanted top price for the few they had. (Before the 2009 I had a 1997 4WD F140 that had 332,000 miles and still ran like new when i traded it in because they were selling trucks at a good price at the time and offered a decent trade in too - $28,000 - $4,000 i think...I was thinking of trying for a million in that one.)
Various problems:
The Pirelli Scorpion tires. One just totally broke on a smooth dirt road in an area out of cell phone range. Abruptly went flat. Didn't hit anything, not even a bump. Couldn't see anything wrong. Had a hard time getting the spare on. Couldn't get the pole in for one thing. Bought 4 new Michelin truck tires. The guy at the tire place said the Pirelli Scorpions that came with it were not made 4 a big truck like this, they were car tires. When i called Ford later the guy said people prefer car tires (!) I shld hv brought it back to Ford but i needed to do things and neither Ford dealer in town was answering their phone. I reported it to the NHTSA Complaint #11438697 29Oct2021. I should have saved them, or at least the blown one, to bring to Ford, but I didn't.
I don't have a normal mirror on mine like he does. I have a part concave mirror that is dangerous especially in an emergency as the eye can't quickly adapt to the different perspectives. The 1/4 concave part is useless.
The electronic compass on both the screen and the dash only work on very rare occasions. Ford service said it's a known "software problem" and Ford is working on it and an update will fix it. Baloney a software problem can be fixed overnight. This is already last years model.
It has about 7,500 miles on it now and I have already HAD TO ADD TWO QUARTS OF OIL! It's not dripping oil on the ground. I don't know where the oil is going but it is a brand new engine. To add to the mystery the oil level has stabilized the last couple of weeks and now seems to he holding steady.
The base level infosystem screen is not as nice as his and is unintuitive and obnoxious, same with the online only manual, as he mentioned, and the XL screen lacks many of his features and is smaller. Old sytem buttons and knobs were so much more intuitive and safer as they didn't detract attention from driving. I also have his radio changing stations/modes/suddenly starting problem.
A warning came telling me something is loose in the oil system (!) like a missing oil filler cap, but now that warning is gone. I did remove the oil filler cap to add oil, but that was the day before.
At two points the back up camera went black and it flashed "see dealer". The infoscreen has also gone black a couple of times.
The on off thing is annoying. I need to remember to push the shut off button every time i start it to stop it from doing that.
Mine has had a seat belt recall.
Warning "malfunction indicator lamp regulatory" came on at one point. Now it's gone.
Small 23 gallon gas tank.
Did that generator built in to the box come standard or was it an option? What is the KW rating? Great vids, btw.
Option. $725. 7.2kW.
When you are noticing the radio station change issues, are you listening to SirrusXM? If so then it was an update from them. Btw I wouldn’t worry as much about surface rust on a diff cover, just spray it and be done. When I here rust I think of frame and body. That would be a 10 out of 10 as far as concerns for me. Thankfully for you Ford does a good job with coating the frame and your Aluminum body will likely last decades longer than the powertrain or interior electronics...lol
No wind noise in my 3 yr old XLT. Maybe just happened in yours .No body rattles either. I can get 26 hwy on a trip over all in straight 3.5 non power boost. at 25,000 miles now on 2019.
Great video
Glad you enjoyed it
In general, I save a PDF copy of the owner’s manual in One Drive or Google Drive. It works great! I keep it simple 😀
Woo Hoo. First model year woes.
I agree with the radio changing, what's up with that?
Hey there Tim, when will you do a video on your 1962 Chevrolet pickup truck, eh?
I'm sure that will be an interesting one!
Here's the latest one I've done. It has been in the shop for a while getting a new engine.
ruclips.net/video/PVao4qrhueg/видео.html
You're right about the F150. They are more of cars now rather than trucks. Bed is too small to use, truck isn't tough. I have a 2020 F150 and a 1997 7.3 Powerstroke. Anytime I need a truck, I have to use the 1997. It will probably still outlast the 2020.
2 questions, Do you think having 18" wheels instead of 20" wheels makes the ride better? Have you had an issues with the Moonroof, leaks or rattles like the older generation F150's did?
I don't think the ride differs that much with the sizes, I think it matters more on the tread of the wheel IMO. I certainly didn't notice any difference between the XLT and Limited for example with different size tires.
No issues with the moonroof and I do like it. Makes the dark gray days seem more sunny with the extra light in the cabin for example during the winter. As the weather gets warmer, I often close the back half and open the glass on the front half. This way I get the warm air inside the cabin without the direct light coming in from behind my head.
2022 F150 Powerboost here, 12k miles on it, bought it brand new. It is constantly in the shop, and when it is they have it for 3 weeks or more because they do not have staff at any of the 5 dealerships near us that can work on them. We have had the plug in the bed corroded and cause ground faults twice, the aux transmission pump went out, the battery has had to be replaced twice, It has had issues with switching from electric to gas causing it to overheat. When it does this it will not shut off for up to 10 min after pressing the button. Sometimes it puts itself into a limp mode where it has barely any power, supposedly so it can get you to safety and shut it off. Ford has refused to buy it back. Currently it is in the shop waiting on an aux transmission pump and has been for almost 6 weeks. They cant support it, wont buy it back. When we took it in this time even before they kknew what the problem was they told us it was going to be there for awhile. This truck is a POS. If you are thinking about purchasing one, run away fast!
So torn on waiting for the new Tundra hybrid or getting the f150 PB. Having been in both, which one did you like more? Which one is more refined etc? I’m not towing. Also how did you like the pano moonroof in the f150? I want that option, but have read owners having issues with it. Thanks for the great videos.
I think the F150 PB is quieter and more refined. The Tundra hybrid is just a different beast. Powerful, and you feel it, and smoother ride with the coils.
Loved the pano moonroof. Never had an issue.
@@Pickuptrucktalk thank you for the quick reply! Just subscribed. I’m a lifelong Toyota owner.. currently in a bulletproof 2016 Lexus GX. I’m just really hesitant to drop the money on the Ford vs Toyota. I’ve had such good ownership experiences with Toyota. I want to try the f150, it still appears to be the segment leader. Toyota pricing will make or break my decision. I’m hoping the Toyota hybrid is similar to the Ford so I can be on electric in parking lots car pool lines etc.
Hi, I just got my f150 hybrid XLT, on the second day a rattling sound was coming from the driver side. It sounded more like a fan blade scraping, the higher the RPM the louder it got until I reached 55 to 60 it stops. I’ll be taking it to the dealership but your input would be very appreciated.
Thx, Edward
I still haven't had mine looked at, so I don't have any info sorry.
Ford's radios have been crap ever since they introduced Sync. I've been dealing with these horrible radios since my first car with Sync in 2008. My friend who works in the infotainment sector said that Ford historically went with the minimum recommended specs on the hardware to save on money, and then kept on pushing the hardware to the absolute limits with unrealistic expectations. I used to have to disconnect the battery on my 2008 Focus about once a month. They did a software update so you can reset the radio on the 2013 Focus ST through the menu now, and I have to do that about once a month as well. I think it's a memory leak issue.
Do you think the extended range fuel tank will make it to the hybrid power boost? Seems like having a onboard generator, more fuel would be needed without taking away from driving range.
Hybrid gets a 30 gallon tank.
Likely not, the hybrid battery takes up some space typically used by the 36 gallon tank.
sensors are the big problem that the future holding.. it won't be cheap .. Good luck
How were the Pirelli tires in the winter? I've heard different things about them.
Old ones sucked. These have been redesigned. No problems on my end.
My Driverside window acts up when its cold and wet. Does not go up automatically. Then when it does work it goes up automatic then comes down about 3 inches.
Hey Tim, Your comment about over specing the truck and in effect making this a XLT Plus, makes me wonder on the impact of resale. Is it better to jump up to next level if your spending more than X amount on options on a lower model? Could be a topic for a Vlog. It probably depends on the brand and specifics, but it is an interesting consideration. Not sure there is that much resale info on your truck yet.
That's a really interesting question and one that has been on my mind. I truly wonder what the resale is going to be since my truck has the 7.2kW on board. When I sell it this Fall, that is going to be a really interesting video.
@@Pickuptrucktalk It probably comes down to how you spec it. I think the 7.2kw inverter setup will be in high demand and more than pay for itself. I look forward to your sales experience and comments.