FORD knocked the ball out of the park with the F150. It's such a pleasure watching your videos; you're well spoken, not goofy like some reviewers and very knowledgeable. Thank you....
How’s the transmission? I have the 2018 with the 2.7 eco boost 4x4 crew cab. Gets 20.7 mpg lifetime a mix of city hwy with 26k miles. My trans is clunky at times. So not sure if the hybrid trans helps with that. It’s a lease so watching hybrid reviews close to consider a trade in.
Ha ha!! LMBO!! I have a 2014 Silverado near fully loaded Z71 with a 5.3 V8! On long trips with the cruise control set at 74 to 76 MPH I have AVERAGED 22 to 24 MPG numerous times!!! Numerous times!!! It's 7 years older has 122,000 miles on it!!! I get between 590 and 605 miles on a 26 gallon fuel tank!! Typical Ford garbage!!! With 87 octane!!!!
@@philllsxga.7737 have fun with you clapped out, 15.8 sec 1/4 mile, lifter ticking, MDS trash, plastic everywhere garbage truck. This F150 can tow more and probably has a higher payload with better fuel economy and more comfortable than your truck could ever. I’ve worked on the big 3 trucks and Chevy is definitely #3 followed by Ram at #2.
@@andrewmcmillan8110 RUclips deboss garage why I'm not a fan of Ford. RUclips car wizard tears down a 5.4 Triton. RUclips New warning to Ecoboost owner's... RUclips Chevy powered mustang wrecks the yard. RUclips LS swapped f150. RUclips k.p. mustang. RUclips LS 9 mustang. RUclips LS RAM RUclips LS Lamborghini. RUclips LS Ferrari. RUclips twin turbo LS fox body mustang. RUclips twin turbo LS Challenger. RUclips LS3 Ford ranger. RUclips LS powered AC Cobra. Oh and how about those lovely Ford spark plugs hitting the hood breaking off now that's engineering at its finest!!!! I can tell you never turned a wrench!!!! You know Ford spent two billion dollars more than GM in warranty claims in 2020 again Ford spent two billion more in warranty claims over GM in 2020 2 billion dollars and GM are junk?!?!?? Google it!!!!
@@philllsxga.7737 You’re taking about Ford as a whole. I’m strictly talking about the F150 Ecoboosts vs Chevy 1500s. I’m not brand loyal because I have worked in all 3. I used to own a ‘03 Silverado with a Texas Speed 370, Precision 7675, TH400 putting down 700whp on 15lbs. I loved that truck. I also build a 240sx LS1/T56 hatch drift car back in 2012. I love LS engines and I wouldn’t hesitate to drop one in another project build. However, now that I’m older and need something different. I have a 2015 Ram Rebel currently and I’ve had too many issues with it and the payload is trash. My buddies 2.7 Ecoboost has been going strong with zero issues since he’s bought it 60k miles ago. My buddies 3.5 eco boost runs 12s with just a tune! He also hasn’t had any issues and he’s at 25k miles(not that much). Every manufacturer has lemons, even Toyota but from my experience the chevys fall apart so much more quickly than any other truck out there. My sister in law just traded her 5.3 Yukon in because of lifter failure! The dealership told her she needed an entire engine. This is real life experience my friend which trumps internet opinions in my book.
Thank you for the review. I have a 2017 Platinum that is my everyday truck. It is loaded with nearly every feature and my fave is the adaptive cruise and auto park. I can also say that the 10 speed makes a huge difference from the earlier 6 speed (had a 2015). I get the platinum as it usually has a greater payload capacity than the Limited. The trucks only require regular gas on the octane. I am soon up for a new model and I am looking at getting the hybrid. The electric is intriguing; however, it was already concluded that a 300 mile range towing a 7000# camper lowers 60% of the range- 140 miles. That is too cumbersome a charge cycle for travel camping.
Personally, I don't think these high end trucks make much sense, unless you just have to have every single bell and whistle available. The 3.5 XLT or Lariat with the top option package is the way I'd go for $25k to $30k less. That configuration gives you many of the luxury features (B&O stereo, etc) without wasting a ton of money on high end materials, which just aren't important to me. Plus the 3.5 gets 23 MPG on the highway, almost matching the hybrid. Obviously, to each their own, but I could never justify spending $80k for a truck that I was actually going to use as a truck.
I have a 2020 RWD Lariat 2.7 with most of the bells and whistles and have been averaging 22 mpg combined in town and highway 75mph. I agree the Lariat trim level is a value.
For the average person they don’t make sense. For the average laborer, it’s plain stupidity that’d lead one to buy and destroy one of these trucks. For a white collar family man, those that travel for work, well to do project managers, or the wealthy they make perfect sense. Also let me say, the secondary market for trucks is insane. When it comes to the high end trim levels, it’s even worse. No car is an investment, but if you are gonna buy one out of need or desire, it’s not a bad choice.
Right, but still he puts in high octane fuel as that isn't what the car is designed to run on optimally. It can certainly compensate but high octane fuel generally delivers lower mpg because of reduced energy per gallon and certainly will with something designed for 87. It's a waste of money and also will give inaccurate range in this test
Also he pumped at pump #13 first n refilled at pump #5. Should fill up at same pump if he really wanted more accurate result. Also automotive way is that do 3 test with average it would be more ideal. Lol
@@gummoonamerica Technically gas pumps all have the same technology that makes them stop. Different pump at same station shouldn't make a difference. The pump shuts off fuel once fuel comes to a high enough point that the air gap inside the fuel nozzle is gone, that triggers the pump to shut off. So fuel level would be at same point to trigger the auto shut off in the pump. The most important thing is to put the pump inside the tank in the exact same fashion each time. All the way inserted or 3/4 inserted whatever it is must be consistent as that will dictate how high the fuel level in the fuel tank neck will be.
In the 3rd quarter of 2021, there will be a $600 update to the software that will allow hands free driving on over 100,000 miles of roads on the US. The truck currently see’s the speed limit signs and on intelligent cruise control, will speed up and slow down accordingly. It does not see school zones well as the signs are not your typical white on black. The lane centering feature on the limited will drive itself. We just took a trip to Atlanta and back and it performed flawless. But it gets issued if you do not use a lot of driver input. It constantly tells you to keep hands on the wheel even though the truck is doing perfectly fine. This is an amazing truck. I absolutely love it. My mileage on our 1200 mile trip was just under 20 @ 75-78 miles and hour with only 34 miles of electric driving. It cannot see stop signs or red lights and if you do not input a steering function, it will come to a stop. We tried it. Lol. And, this dang truck will fly! 0-60 under 6 seconds. Insurance is cheaper on the 2021 Limited than it was on my 2018 King Ranch. And ladies, you can plug up your 1500 watt hair dryer into the dash 110 volt plug, and get your hair did going to the track! I love my Limited Powerboost!
put the same drive train into a station wagon and you would get better mileage as it is most likely lower with better aero. For that matter station wagons are now called SUVs which do the same function.
90 RON fuel (European measurement) is comparable to 87 R/M rating we see in the States. Using premium might have skewed your results, but probably not. Had you been testing power output it probably would have made a difference; such as acceleration runs, towing, situations were you'd use a lot of boost.
I got 26.5 mpg hiway using cruise on my new used 7000 mile hybrid over 125 miles on my new used 7000 mile 2021 XLT. Using regular. On second day today 1-26-22 did a reset and got 23.5 mpg around town. In Myrtle Beach, SC.
I don't know if there are hills on you loop but my experience on constant speed travel with a 2021 Powerboost f-150 is while watching the powerflow graphic on the screen, The Hybrid is active and helping the combustion engine up the hill and getting regen on the way down. The boost gauge remains at or near zero. Give it try.
I have a 2013 F150 FX4 with the 3.5 ecoboost. It weighs over 6000 pounds. The hybrid being tested has an additional motor in the transmission plus a battery pack that weighs quite a bit. My guess is it weighs more than my truck.
I agree, I have a 2022 F150 Lariat Powerboost full hybrid, has Pro-Power 7.2Kw on it so bit heavier, picked in November 2022 so still breaking-in, currently under 1500 miles, and it gives me 21-22 mpg in the City driving on 87 octanes regular gas, and shows about 20%-25% on the electric driving mode. I've tri-fold tonneau cover so don't know if it helps. Awesome performance and efficiency partnered together and Ford has done it right.
RON (Research Octane Number) is a worldwide standard for octane. 91+ RON converts to regular gasoline in the US, so you could saved the money and just put regular into the truck. I have a question about the cruise/Copilot 360. How long can you leave your hands off of the wheel before the cruise disengages? Some people on Tesla's wedge a water bottle in the steering wheel to simulate torque on the steering wheel so that don't have to keep "touching" the wheel.
Regarding the comment about not running in electric mode over 45MPH or so, I find that a bit surprising. This was the way back before we had the transmissions we have today. Our Hybrid SUV will go down the freeway at 70mph in electric mode given the 6-speed we have. If the 10-speed isn't able to do the same, it must be due to a lot more displacement given the aerodynamics.
Please do the MPG calculations on the big screen of the smartphone, as they do, for example, on the TFL channel. It looks better in the video and not everyone hears the information well. Since you use in U.S. the average octane between motor and engineering computational methods, you may probably take the average MPG between the dash board and the fuel pump also. Nobody knows for sure whether the meter and the pump works right at these gas stations, right?
By law pumps are certified periodically and a seal is placed on each after certification. It is possible for the pump to go out of certification, obviously, but the pumps are generally pretty durable.
when this hybrid engine came on, I went to a Ford dealer (because I needed a new vehicle for work for hauling boxes and occasionaly towing a trailer with a couple of pallets). For what this engine cost, I ended up leasing a XLT crew with the 2.7L engine instead. GREAT fuel economy, quick engine! Good paylload, and since I wasn't towing anywhere over 4500lbs, (most towing was less than 3000lbs), the 2.7l Ecoboost was the perfect engine. I eventually did get a hybrid car (a Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 4.x Plug in hybrid). I know Kyle didn't like hwo that drive, and the F-150 did drive better on highway, has so much more space, and youcan take 5 person (even 6 on models with the front bench) comfortably!, where for long trips, you can't really put only 4 on a Jeep. I would have gotten Bronco, but I'd still be waiting for one of those, so the Jeep did the job, though space is cramped, and when I put a trailer with a total load of 3000 lbs (including trailer) I"m somewhat pushing its limit, but that is fine for me, I dont' need 10K towing. Love the F-150, miss beign able to go with 5 people on road trips, Miss the Co Pilot 360 I had as well, adn while jeep coudl have been fitted with adaptive cruise control, I the car I found on a dealership didn't have it, and I didn't think I needed it. I ened up getting a minivan for longer trips, which is inconvenient to need to cars, but I'll take the jeep if I'm goign with myself, or maybe a couple of people (took it to Alaska earlier this year after watchign Kyle's videos. Wow. Wrote a lot! F-150 is good truck though! that woud probably have been a better road tripper to Alaska with a roof top tent as I did. I would go for the XLT myself, save some bucks and add some stuff like the leather seats, the 3.5 Powerboost, and that would be cheaper than the Limited, myself, think you an spec an XLT very well for as much as a limited would cost, and then That'd let me get Powerboost.
My 2012 Ford FX4 5.0L V8 Supercrew, consistently gets 22mpg. So yeah.............. I was hoping for more like 30mpg out of this. My wife has a 2021 Honda CRV hybrid and she is currently getting 40mpg as per Honda's. These hybrids (especially the trucks) have a long way to go in the fuel efficiency realm. I do like the F150 hybrid's 120v plug in's and tailgate power hub. Very cool for many many many reasons. Like for example, when your out glamping, rather than needing to have a dedicated generator for your RV trailer, you could just hook your RV directly into the bed if the F150.
Nothing personal, you’re like the 5th person I’ve responded to with the same ignorant complaint. Hybrids do NOT excel on the highway. They excel in city driving. I guarantee your 5.0 will not even get close to 24 mpg in the city which is what the Powerboost gets easily. Also gotta realize there is still a 400 hp gasoline engine pushing a 3 ton brick!
Some guy during the Texas outages in February managed to power his home off the F-150's generator, and I think it was said he used 1/4 tank of gas for 3 days worth of powering his house.
@@jaysson1151 Not sure if "ignorant" is the correct word here. I do though see your point wrt city driving. My last truck was a (full-size: 8' box Supercrew with tow package) 2010 F150 XL with the 5.4L 3V; on the highway, I was getting around the 21-23mpg range.
@@jaysson1151 No, those numbers are strictly the highway driving; in the city on the other hand, "Big Red" love to drink gas! I spent the money on good highway tires, a Leer cap and driving around the 105-110kph (62-65mph)
I drive about 85 miles one way, basically 170 miles round trip between home and work, Daly 5-6 days a week, hybrid basically will do nothing for me since it’s all highway, I been looking into this to see what options their is , since I’m buying about $150 gas a week . Maybe the all Electric be different
I get around 20 mpg in the city with my 2.7 EcoBoost with 87 octane so I would probably get 24+ hwy. Stay tuned because I have a 3 hour plus trip when I take my truck in the near future.
@@dlg5485 its a gimmick. More crap to fail and ford has enough stuff that fails they don't need to add more. Guess to justify the stupid price they ask for these things.
@@paulkruger2310 To be fair, the hybrid does offer some amazing features, like an onboard power plant that can power your job site, campsite or whatever electricity needs you have. You have to admit, that's pretty cool, but certainly not worth the absurd price.
@@paulkruger2310 theres a market where people want everything. Why are there $1mil supercars or $120k teslas or $500k fricken boats? This is for the construction or camper crowd and Ford cant make enough.
@@Dirtyharry70585 there to expensive and unreliable long term. They won't sell a huge amount of those. Only crazy people spend 80k on a ford f150. And even more crazy on super cars and big boats. Yeah they sell them but not on a huge scale like a toyota corolla or rav 4. More people can buy those or regular trucks. You don't need a rolling generator to camp and fish
I hope Ford makes an optional suspension package for the F-150 with a Watt's link rear end available as part of the package. The lightning and the Raptor both have their own rear suspension designs so having the option to upgrade to something better than leaf springs on the rest of the F-150 range makes sense. I do like how Ford is embracing Hybrids the PowerBoost drivetrain is impressive with some great fuel economy and performance figures excellent job Ford. Also having the option of AC power outlets in the rear bed is an extremely innovative and handy feature for tradespeople and campers with many surprising uses coming to the fore. 😎🇦🇺👍
24 is great for a truck. People need to stop whining about mpg or how expensive it is and on and. No one is forcing you to buy it. Get what you like and be happy.
You’re in Fo Co! Go Rams! Thank you for the great content. This is helping me make a decision on a vehicle. What is your favorite truck for gas mileage?
My 98 Silverado was getting 22 highway back in 2002. I have always figured up my mpg this way. The Silverado was a 350 with a 4 speed automatic. Maybe the F-150 would get a few more mpgs if cars today didn't have so much crap in them that they cost as much as $70k and above. Sticker on my Silverado was $26k and change.
One consideration is your 98 Silverado probably only had 200ish horsepower and couldn't tow 12-14,000lbs. The price of these new trucks is getting ridiculous though. $80k for an F150 is crazy.
Yes I feel like they should've shown the dash or at least throw up comparison numbers. Generally I think the on-board are a tad more optimistic, but would love to see a direct comparison
I use my cruise and resume to moderate my drive speed and acceleration and come up to a range of over 600 mile after a top Off! My 2022 Lariat Power Boost. May be the Limited it heavier then my Lariat. I don’t have a glass roof on my Lariat but do Have the 7.2 kWh generator!
I have a 2019 F150 Sport EcoBoost. It averages about 20 MPG city and highway and 24 MPG on the highway at 60 MPH. I am considering the F150 Hybrid. The one Hybrid at the Ford dealer cost $62,000 without a premium trim package. I am weighing the cost versus the benefit of the Hybrid for my intended use. That said, it is a sharp truck.
Nice review. You are at some elevation and always wind in Wyoming. MPG would have been different and better especially after 15K miles and sea level. Eco mode means it controls throttle input. The truck is never in AWD/4WD unless you put it in it so not understanding comment
Listen I'm impressed by you! I watched your vids on electric and left it there thinking that's all you were. But now I appreciate you and Subscribed. I love electric, but we're not there yet to tow our Travel Trailer and try charging at a charging station and stopping every 150 miles Ouch. When I turn my truck in 12 mths; will consider this F150 Powerboost Hybrid since it can run my A/C in the Travel Trailer while boondocking and we need that here in Florida. I don't find a Hybrid to be no different than my Truck on the HWY where the hybrid is a champ, City Driving. I have managed on my 2020 2.7L 4cycl GMC crew cab 33 MPG's staying at 48 mph as an average from Key Largo to Big Pine Key, Florida, have it on video here on YT. And in many occasions, I capture 23-24 at 70 mph. Where I lack is city driving, where I get 18 mpg's on average.
I've had my 2021F-150 Hybrid King Ranch for about 4 months and I'm somewhat disappointed with it. The jerky transmission is seldom mentioned. This is very noticeable accelerating from a dead stop or when slowing down before making a turn. A RUclips video I saw suggested driving in the "Eco" mode which, for some reason, made the truck shift a little smoother. I had a 2016 F-150 Ecoboost prior to this one and it usually exceeded the EPA ratings. So far, this truck has not come close! I've read where the electric motor is mainly used during "in town" driving versus "highway". This is where probably 90% of my driving takes place. Would I buy the truck again? I don't think so, especially for what it cost! If my dealer asked me if he could buy it back for what I paid for it, I'd very likely jump at the opportunity despite buying it for $500 under MSRP.
everyone and their brother knows the fact that hybrids excel with mainly in town driving under full or partial electric. All the 10 speeds are jerky compared to previous 6 speed but much better mpg. Sounds likely you didn't do your research
I love mine, summer I get around 27 hypermiling and winter 21.7 average sometime more on trip sometimes less. I got the platinum but I love the limited too!
24 mpg? In my 2.7L I drove from Detroit to Atlanta and averaged 25.5 mpg the whole trip mostly with the cruise control set at 70mph. I was expecting more from the hybrid. Kinda disappointing.
Hybrids won't excel on thr highway unless there are rolling hills. Try a 55 mph road with hills and a light throttle as you regen on down hill and use it use it up on up hills.
To add on what Norm is saying, hybrids excel in city traffic where there is a lot of stop and go. But at 70+ mph, it’s all on gasoline power. You also gotta remember it still has a 400 hp 3.5L Ecoboost engine (detuned to 392 hp) pushing a 5600-5800 lb brick. The hybrid truck is much heavier than the regular trucks.
@@jaysson1151 The hybrid gets 24 mpg overall that's not much better than my 2.7 which is doing 21 mpg. When you factor in the price premium for the hybrid I'd say not much improvement over the standard gas. Even the 3.5 ecoboost can get 20 mpg overall.
charles king you said 20 overall, that means combined.... the 3.5 in a 4x4 is rated for 18 in the city.... Usually it gets lower than that. I have a 2012 3.5 4x4 and I’m lucky to get above 14 when commuting in 100% city the whole way. You also don’t buy the Powerboost if your only intention is to save gas. It’s still designed to haul and tow. You’re also limited to 8000 lbs of towing with your 2.7. You also cannot get the 2.7 in a 4x4 Lariat and above. The 5.0 is the base engine, making the Powerboost a $2500 option. If you’re getting a 3.5 anyway, then it’s only $1900 more.
there are some this truck comes with column shift in the xlt no need for these high end crap and besides would never buy drive any care with the dumbass panoramic roof the xlt can be bought with out it
How many miles can you run on Eletric/ battery alone, keeping the slowest necessarily speed, and what is the speed in which the truck switch from electric to gas ( on even flat road)?? Thanks
One time in North Dakota driving into a 60+mph head wind my mpg went from ~21mpg down to about ~9mpg and the engine hood was shaking so bad I was afraid the hood latch was going to come loose there was tons of air lifting upwards and I could barely hold 65mph. I hated the experience
Damn, do any of you people know how a hybrid works?!? Hybrids excel at city driving! Can your 2003 3/4 ton get 24 mpg in city driving with red lights, bumper-to-bumper traffic, potholes, J-walking pedestrians, cabbies cutting you off, etc etc??? I bet not!
@@jaysson1151 my daily is a hybrid- so no, I have no idea how hybrids work. Also, the 3/4 ton outweighs the 150 by almost 1,000lbs. Ford didn't design the hybrid system to save fuel, they designed it to be a rolling generator for jobsites.
Yankee Doodle wow 2 months later? Your comeback didn’t prove anything or answer my question. Did you even read my whole comment or just the first sentence? Does your 3/4 ton diesel get 24 mpg in city driving conditions? Seeing how the non-hybrid truck with the same engine gets far less mileage in the city, I’d say that’s a huge improvement for just $1900 more. Most compact crossovers don’t get that kind of mileage in the city either.
What's the life of a power boost battery? Cost for replacing? Haven't see this question asked. Since the GUARANTEE is eight years might be a good calculator. Looking to purchase a Lariat next week.
Interesting test. However there’s a technical imprecision: any adverse external condition will NOT be completely compensated by going both ways. The reason is that anything that slows down the speed (say, adverse wind) will make you spend MORE TIME in negative condition, while the other way (wind in favor) will make you spend LESS TIME in positive condition. The net result is always a loss of performance when you have wind or altitude variation in the out-and-return route. Btw, this is very well known by any airplane pilot,
@@skellington2000 if you do it you will consume more gas pushing the accelerator to keep the speed with a front wind that what you spare by driving with the wind on the back. End result: you use more gas when it's windy...
I agree with the other guy. He set his cruise control to 70 mpg both times so he’s not going to spend more time going either way. Just more fuel into the wind.
Actually thats a bad idea. City driving is very irregular. My city vs your city may have drastically different traffic patterns. If anything to test city driving they should just cruise around a track at around 25mph so it is always runnining in a low gear and stop for a few minutes every lap. I do agree they need to do at least till the 1/4 full mark though to get a more accurate result. Not all the way down because most peopke do not drive to empty.
@@Hallowsaw Maybe the best thing to do, is just ask people who have one how good the mileage is? I am sure that you will get a lot of different numbers, it depends so much on how you drive, whrere you drive, ect. But, you might get a good general idea of what to expect in the real world. These tests are like the EPA mileage ratings, they really do not replicate a persons mileage over a span of time and conditions, and seasons.
Really? So you're saying if I want to know 70mph highway MPG, I should drive around the city with all kinds of driving for a "realistic" test? That makes no sense at all. If you want "realistic" - as in across all styles of driving, you need a controlled test with highway, a controlled test with city, a "fuel miser" test, an "aggressive driver" test, and a mixed driving test, then people can see how each of those things affect the MPG. You need more than one data point to get the full picture.
Thats awesome mpg.. but i have one caviate. Where i live, the interstate speed limit is 65 within the civilization.. butas soon as we are out of the built area, The speed limit jumps to 80.. how do these trucks do at 80 mph?? Will it drop from 24 to 22? Or from 24 to 12??? Im also very curious to see mog tests in city traffic.. my daily commute rarely sees anything higher than 55 mph, and at least a dozen stop lights.. i am curious to see how these vehicles perform in those conditions too. Should i go diesel, gas or hybrid???
I really want Lincoln to hive the truck segment one more try ...but this time no compromise... and should have features that Ford does have ... full rear window that rolls down, a rugged yet elegant interior design, a design language only for a luxury active vehicle ...
I'm currently driving a 2018 F150 Platinum, thinking of selling that and upgrading to this new one... The upgrades really seem worth it, any advice? I do a lot of daily city driving, combined with many weekend road trips and longer summer camping trips.
@@nohowtoplz1 super scarce. Purchased one in Feb with a hope for April/May delivery but a fire at chip factory has killed the supply. No ETA. Could be fall until it’s resolved.
I hope you can answer this 🙏 I know that now you have a Rivian truck and love it. And after watching this video, I’m unsure about which you’d prefer, the powerboost or the Rivian? I feel you will answer the Rivian truck. But I’d like for you to confirm it, because this is where I am right now. I’m trying to decide which to go with. Thank you in advance!
Best thing is that the RV being towed can be connected to the truck as a endless power generator at 30 amp output... very quite and trucks entire fuel tank to run generator...
Platinum hybrid is 69k. Plus you get a 7500 tax credit from uncle Sam. You have a luxury suv with the capability of a truck and 24mpg city...which you could push to even higher if you are light footed in the city. Everything about this truck makes sense
90 RON = Approximately 86 US spec (R+M)/2 ... So 87 should be fine, but possibly 89-91 would give you slightly more power.. Not sure why you would have the European specification on the fuel door with a US truck. Check the operator manual for best results. Good mpg for that size of truck, as long as you stay out of the turbos .. But what's the fun of that :-)
higher octane does not give you more power, this has been researched ad nauseam many many times. It only resists detonation with heavy loads and towing where computer would kick back power to prevent detonation. Try it. ZERO difference in everyday driving. None
It would be interesting to hear what the millage was from the truck computer to check the disparity. My 2018 f150 with 2.7 the computer told me 19.9 mpg but the actual mileage was just over 17.
I don’t know how anybody can actually get 24mpg in this truck. I’ve had my 2021 F150, same motor in platinum trim, for a month. I do have the FX4. I’ve been babying the hell out of it for 2 weeks, always in hybrid mode, and I can’t get an average better than 20. The first two weeks I drove it in sport mode, regular mode, towed a Jeep with it, and really put it through the paces. I averaged 18. If you buy this truck for 24mpg you’ll be disappointed. That aside, I love mine. It’s everything I want in a truck. More luxurious than my Lexus and it can do everything you’d want out of a half ton pickup
@@officialyasir I saw the video. I’m on the 2021 F150 forum and nobody can get 24 mpg average at speeds above 55. Are my tires bigger? Maybe but they came with the truck with a sticker advertising 24mpg highway and city. I’m sure once I do my leveling kit and put 34’s on it’ll drop even more. Again I’m not losing sleep over it. Truck is an awesome beast that’s more luxurious than my Lexus or BMW and with more tech. But mpg statements are just false
My 2019 F150 3.5 Ecoboost consistently gets 9.7 L/100 kms (24 mpg US) on highway trips with cruise set at 100 km/h; town and highway combined I consistently average 11.2 L/100 km (21 mpg US). A couple notes: I always use 91 octane, ethanol free fuel, I leave my drive mode in normal not Eco, I like to drive it hard at times but for the most part I drive it like I own it and my mileage drops about 5-10% in the winter with my snow tires on. Loving the Ecoboost........ power and fuel economy. I have a 2022 Powerboost on order.
** update ** After giving up on the mpg and just driving the truck.. 6 months later I started averaging 22.5 mpg. I really think the motor needed a break-in period. That was driving in without a thought given to mpg but admittedly, I don’t drive vehicles as hard as I once did. Last month I put a 2.25 leveling kit on the truck and OC 34’s. I’ve dipped down to 18 mpg.
I think Plug in hybrid will be the way to electrify most of the cars in North America. I myself own a Plug in Hybrid (PHEV) and I love it! 90% of my driving is done on battery only (since most of my trips are under 20 miles round), and I only fill my tank up to half once a month (rarely use fuel, only when I need to tow a trailer every other week for work or on longer road trips like Moab). That will be the case for Most people,and having vehicles like Plug in hybrid SUVs and mini-vans will be how most people can use electric most of the time, still haivng gasoline for longer times. Eventually, I believe Most people will get EVs, but their price and size is also another issue. F-150 Lightning is first larger vehicle, R1S can have 7 Pax and the MOdel X (those are expensive cars, and you can get vans or cross overs for half the cost of some of those). SO, I think again, that for most people saying Plug in hybrid is not the way... I'd disagree. PHEV will be first true large wave of EVs in U.S. I think, and most of those will run on electric 90% of the time since average person in US drives 40 miles a day, and average PHEV range is around 30-35 miles on battery only.
If youre doing only highway mileage then yeah those would be better options. But the majority of buyers don't do more than 90% of their driving on the highway. City and average mpg is the point, if this truck actually gets 24 miles to the gallon then that's definitely an improvement over 2 wheel drive trucks that get 16 to 20 in the city. Plus new diesels have higher cost per mile than similar gas engines, even when the diesel engine gets 30% better average mileage.
And to add onto Vito’s comment: diesels don’t do well in short commutes. Never reaching optimum engine temperatures, never getting a chance to regen, shorter maintenance intervals, more DEF consumption. Too much headaches for a city dweller. However they are great highway cruisers!
NO TOW HOOKS on 2023? I ordered last week. The 2023 Build page is now up. I see that the 2023 F150 XL, XLT, Lariat, King Ranch and Platinum does NOT come with tow hooks. You have to buy a $4380 package to get the tow hooks on the Platinum. WTF. Does anyone know if I'll be able to add aftermarket front tow hooks ?
I get 22 mpg at 70 mph on a 2020 F150 Crew 6.5 bed 3.5 ecoBoost. If I run 50 mph empty on level roads I've seen 29 - 30 mpg. That's on 87 octane. With the extra cost, maintenance, and reduced towing and payload the hybrid doesn't seem worth it.
@@smarterthanyou2674 It is a 4x4 with the XLT high trim, MaxTow, plus a few more options. It has every option I need. Payload and towing capacity are more important to me. That is why I avoided the FX package because it reduces both. I got a great deal on this F150 on the dealers lot. If i were to order my ideal F150 it would be an XLT mid level trim with the max payload option, which is impossible to find on a dealers lot.
@@luisbarraza9709 No, but I paid $43,000 plus tax for the truck. After buying a generator I can still buy 200,000 - 300,000 miles worth of fuel with the price difference, plus I can tow and haul more, which is why I bought a truck.
FORD knocked the ball out of the park with the F150. It's such a pleasure watching your videos; you're well spoken, not goofy like some reviewers and very knowledgeable. Thank you....
i agree,no goofy
I get 28 to 32mpgs on my 80 mile drive to work every day, all highway, and 80 miles home.
This week I got 1,007.4 miles to my one 30.6gal tank.
No you don't LOL
@@thewireman134 yes I do
@tanks any tips ? I’m getting my 21 power boost tomrorow
@@onpointmvp high Octane ethanol Free fuel, AEM drop-in air filter or AFE Momentum GT CAI, and pump your tires up to 44psi rear and 48psi front.
You should adjust the mpg down to an 87 octane mpg equivalent from a cost perspective. Fuel cost is more important than range as it relates to mpg.
I get what you are saying but if you can afford an $80K truck, you can afford 91 octane.
@@rdsii64 I agree, but it would be interesting to see what impact 87 has though.
I agree. That's why diesels in America are unpopular since they just expensive to run.
For an Ecoboost the difference between 87 and 93 octane is 3% MPG, so it will get 23.2 MPG on 87 octane vs 24.0 MPG on the 93.
@@hughhemington9559 none.
Just got mine. Driven 1750 miles so far and getting 20.7 on 87 octane. Love the truck.
How’s the transmission? I have the 2018 with the 2.7 eco boost 4x4 crew cab. Gets 20.7 mpg lifetime a mix of city hwy with 26k miles. My trans is clunky at times. So not sure if the hybrid trans helps with that. It’s a lease so watching hybrid reviews close to consider a trade in.
Ha ha!! LMBO!!
I have a 2014 Silverado near fully loaded Z71 with a 5.3 V8!
On long trips with the cruise control set at 74 to 76 MPH I have AVERAGED 22 to 24 MPG numerous times!!! Numerous times!!!
It's 7 years older has 122,000 miles on it!!!
I get between 590 and 605 miles on a 26 gallon fuel tank!!
Typical Ford garbage!!!
With 87 octane!!!!
@@philllsxga.7737 have fun with you clapped out, 15.8 sec 1/4 mile, lifter ticking, MDS trash, plastic everywhere garbage truck. This F150 can tow more and probably has a higher payload with better fuel economy and more comfortable than your truck could ever. I’ve worked on the big 3 trucks and Chevy is definitely #3 followed by Ram at #2.
@@andrewmcmillan8110 RUclips deboss garage why I'm not a fan of Ford.
RUclips car wizard tears down a 5.4 Triton.
RUclips New warning to Ecoboost owner's...
RUclips Chevy powered mustang wrecks the yard.
RUclips LS swapped f150.
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Oh and how about those lovely Ford spark plugs hitting the hood breaking off now that's engineering at its finest!!!!
I can tell you never turned a wrench!!!!
You know Ford spent two billion dollars more than GM in warranty claims in 2020 again Ford spent two billion more in warranty claims over GM in 2020 2 billion dollars and GM are junk?!?!??
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@@philllsxga.7737 You’re taking about Ford as a whole. I’m strictly talking about the F150 Ecoboosts vs Chevy 1500s. I’m not brand loyal because I have worked in all 3. I used to own a ‘03 Silverado with a Texas Speed 370, Precision 7675, TH400 putting down 700whp on 15lbs. I loved that truck. I also build a 240sx LS1/T56 hatch drift car back in 2012. I love LS engines and I wouldn’t hesitate to drop one in another project build. However, now that I’m older and need something different. I have a 2015 Ram Rebel currently and I’ve had too many issues with it and the payload is trash. My buddies 2.7 Ecoboost has been going strong with zero issues since he’s bought it 60k miles ago. My buddies 3.5 eco boost runs 12s with just a tune! He also hasn’t had any issues and he’s at 25k miles(not that much). Every manufacturer has lemons, even Toyota but from my experience the chevys fall apart so much more quickly than any other truck out there. My sister in law just traded her 5.3 Yukon in because of lifter failure! The dealership told her she needed an entire engine. This is real life experience my friend which trumps internet opinions in my book.
Thank you for the review. I have a 2017 Platinum that is my everyday truck. It is loaded with nearly every feature and my fave is the adaptive cruise and auto park. I can also say that the 10 speed makes a huge difference from the earlier 6 speed (had a 2015). I get the platinum as it usually has a greater payload capacity than the Limited. The trucks only require regular gas on the octane. I am soon up for a new model and I am looking at getting the hybrid. The electric is intriguing; however, it was already concluded that a 300 mile range towing a 7000# camper lowers 60% of the range- 140 miles. That is too cumbersome a charge cycle for travel camping.
Personally, I don't think these high end trucks make much sense, unless you just have to have every single bell and whistle available. The 3.5 XLT or Lariat with the top option package is the way I'd go for $25k to $30k less. That configuration gives you many of the luxury features (B&O stereo, etc) without wasting a ton of money on high end materials, which just aren't important to me. Plus the 3.5 gets 23 MPG on the highway, almost matching the hybrid. Obviously, to each their own, but I could never justify spending $80k for a truck that I was actually going to use as a truck.
lariat with your options is nearly always the best bang for buck
Roger that. Folks love testing wll these new frills just to have content. In reality how many of us can afford that? From the land of XL work truck
I have a 2020 RWD Lariat 2.7 with most of the bells and whistles and have been averaging 22 mpg combined in town and highway 75mph. I agree the Lariat trim level is a value.
I am that guy who went from 2016 XLT to 2016 Limited. 31k-65k. Will never do that again. They ride the same.
For the average person they don’t make sense. For the average laborer, it’s plain stupidity that’d lead one to buy and destroy one of these trucks. For a white collar family man, those that travel for work, well to do project managers, or the wealthy they make perfect sense. Also let me say, the secondary market for trucks is insane. When it comes to the high end trim levels, it’s even worse. No car is an investment, but if you are gonna buy one out of need or desire, it’s not a bad choice.
I recently did a 261 mile trip on 87 octane in my Ram 1500 Classic Tradesman extended cab with the 5.7 Hemi 2wd with a few mods. Got 25.6 mpg
BS
😂 a ram? No way
RON is the European fuel rating system. 90 in RON equals 86.5 U.S. Octane.
Right, but still he puts in high octane fuel as that isn't what the car is designed to run on optimally. It can certainly compensate but high octane fuel generally delivers lower mpg because of reduced energy per gallon and certainly will with something designed for 87. It's a waste of money and also will give inaccurate range in this test
I'd love to see this same test done at 80 MPH and 85 MPH.
Carful. I think TFL has a patent on that fill up method....
Also he pumped at pump #13 first n refilled at pump #5. Should fill up at same pump if he really wanted more accurate result. Also automotive way is that do 3 test with average it would be more ideal. Lol
Lol
TFL went down hill! Not literally 😂
@@officialyasir what did they do?
@@gummoonamerica Technically gas pumps all have the same technology that makes them stop. Different pump at same station shouldn't make a difference. The pump shuts off fuel once fuel comes to a high enough point that the air gap inside the fuel nozzle is gone, that triggers the pump to shut off. So fuel level would be at same point to trigger the auto shut off in the pump. The most important thing is to put the pump inside the tank in the exact same fashion each time. All the way inserted or 3/4 inserted whatever it is must be consistent as that will dictate how high the fuel level in the fuel tank neck will be.
In the 3rd quarter of 2021, there will be a $600 update to the software that will allow hands free driving on over 100,000 miles of roads on the US. The truck currently see’s the speed limit signs and on intelligent cruise control, will speed up and slow down accordingly. It does not see school zones well as the signs are not your typical white on black. The lane centering feature on the limited will drive itself. We just took a trip to Atlanta and back and it performed flawless. But it gets issued if you do not use a lot of driver input. It constantly tells you to keep hands on the wheel even though the truck is doing perfectly fine. This is an amazing truck. I absolutely love it. My mileage on our 1200 mile trip was just under 20 @ 75-78 miles and hour with only 34 miles of electric driving. It cannot see stop signs or red lights and if you do not input a steering function, it will come to a stop. We tried it. Lol. And, this dang truck will fly! 0-60 under 6 seconds. Insurance is cheaper on the 2021 Limited than it was on my 2018 King Ranch. And ladies, you can plug up your 1500 watt hair dryer into the dash 110 volt plug, and get your hair did going to the track! I love my Limited Powerboost!
Can’t wait til next year when they test the f150 ev!
Your good impression is why Families switched from station wagons of the past to crew cab pickups
put the same drive train into a station wagon and you would get better mileage as it is most likely lower with better aero. For that matter station wagons are now called SUVs which do the same function.
I have had 150's since they invented them. This (but in King Ranch) is my next one.
Thank you.
90 RON fuel (European measurement) is comparable to 87 R/M rating we see in the States. Using premium might have skewed your results, but probably not. Had you been testing power output it probably would have made a difference; such as acceleration runs, towing, situations were you'd use a lot of boost.
Seeing the fuel prices in this video makes me nostalgic for 2021.
I got 26.5 mpg hiway using cruise on my new used 7000 mile hybrid over 125 miles on my new used 7000 mile 2021 XLT. Using regular. On second day today 1-26-22 did a reset and got 23.5 mpg around town. In Myrtle Beach, SC.
Good video. Thanks for sharing. The loop should be longer for better accuracy as the gas pumps are not so accurate as most people may think.
To avoid future confusion and discomfort about the name of the gas station, Kum & Go will be renamed to "Jizzum & Go"
Kinda makes you wonder what "special services" they offer in the Mini Mart!
We used to call it the Splash and Dash
Skeet n Bounce
Jizz and jet
Jerk and squirt
I don't know if there are hills on you loop but my experience on constant speed travel with a 2021 Powerboost f-150 is while watching the powerflow graphic on the screen, The Hybrid is active and helping the combustion engine up the hill and getting regen on the way down. The boost gauge remains at or near zero. Give it try.
24mpg @ 70mph in a 4700 pound truck IS OUTSTANDING!
5500 lbs
Less outstanding with the use of 91 octane.
I have a 2013 F150 FX4 with the 3.5 ecoboost. It weighs over 6000 pounds. The hybrid being tested has an additional motor in the transmission plus a battery pack that weighs quite a bit. My guess is it weighs more than my truck.
Kum&go, cant wait to get mine
"What are your plans with my daughter tonight?"
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Thanks for the review. Did you compare your MPG to the trip computer MPG? I’m curious if they are the same.
All the HP and torque pushing 6000 lbs and 24 mpg hell yah nice!
except a 2.7 ecoboost on highway will get very close to that, mine did, so what exactly are you paying for?
I agree, I have a 2022 F150 Lariat Powerboost full hybrid, has Pro-Power 7.2Kw on it so bit heavier, picked in November 2022 so still breaking-in, currently under 1500 miles, and it gives me 21-22 mpg in the City driving on 87 octanes regular gas, and shows about 20%-25% on the electric driving mode. I've tri-fold tonneau cover so don't know if it helps. Awesome performance and efficiency partnered together and Ford has done it right.
Starting off at the ol' Jizz-n-Split.
Uhhhhh, what was the name of that fueling station? 😂
Just make sure you wear safety glasses when you pump
They must keep it immaculately clean. I went inside and the whole place smelled like bleach
you caught that too huh :)
LOL I had the same thought....
Welcome to the upper Midwest where innuendos don't matter.
RON (Research Octane Number) is a worldwide standard for octane. 91+ RON converts to regular gasoline in the US, so you could saved the money and just put regular into the truck.
I have a question about the cruise/Copilot 360. How long can you leave your hands off of the wheel before the cruise disengages? Some people on Tesla's wedge a water bottle in the steering wheel to simulate torque on the steering wheel so that don't have to keep "touching" the wheel.
wow 25mpg in a 3.5 ecoboost is amazing!! My 2.7 doesn't even do that good!! good video
Regarding the comment about not running in electric mode over 45MPH or so, I find that a bit surprising. This was the way back before we had the transmissions we have today. Our Hybrid SUV will go down the freeway at 70mph in electric mode given the 6-speed we have. If the 10-speed isn't able to do the same, it must be due to a lot more displacement given the aerodynamics.
I’ve had mine electric only up around 80mph! It won’t do it for long, but it’s certainly not speed limited to affect regular driving.
Please do the MPG calculations on the big screen of the smartphone, as they do, for example, on the TFL channel. It looks better in the video and not everyone hears the information well. Since you use in U.S. the average octane between motor and engineering computational methods, you may probably take the average MPG between the dash board and the fuel pump also. Nobody knows for sure whether the meter and the pump works right at these gas stations, right?
By law pumps are certified periodically and a seal is placed on each after certification. It is possible for the pump to go out of certification, obviously, but the pumps are generally pretty durable.
when this hybrid engine came on, I went to a Ford dealer (because I needed a new vehicle for work for hauling boxes and occasionaly towing a trailer with a couple of pallets). For what this engine cost, I ended up leasing a XLT crew with the 2.7L engine instead. GREAT fuel economy, quick engine! Good paylload, and since I wasn't towing anywhere over 4500lbs, (most towing was less than 3000lbs), the 2.7l Ecoboost was the perfect engine.
I eventually did get a hybrid car (a Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 4.x Plug in hybrid). I know Kyle didn't like hwo that drive, and the F-150 did drive better on highway, has so much more space, and youcan take 5 person (even 6 on models with the front bench) comfortably!, where for long trips, you can't really put only 4 on a Jeep. I would have gotten Bronco, but I'd still be waiting for one of those, so the Jeep did the job, though space is cramped, and when I put a trailer with a total load of 3000 lbs (including trailer) I"m somewhat pushing its limit, but that is fine for me, I dont' need 10K towing. Love the F-150, miss beign able to go with 5 people on road trips, Miss the Co Pilot 360 I had as well, adn while jeep coudl have been fitted with adaptive cruise control, I the car I found on a dealership didn't have it, and I didn't think I needed it. I ened up getting a minivan for longer trips, which is inconvenient to need to cars, but I'll take the jeep if I'm goign with myself, or maybe a couple of people (took it to Alaska earlier this year after watchign Kyle's videos. Wow. Wrote a lot!
F-150 is good truck though! that woud probably have been a better road tripper to Alaska with a roof top tent as I did. I would go for the XLT myself, save some bucks and add some stuff like the leather seats, the 3.5 Powerboost, and that would be cheaper than the Limited, myself, think you an spec an XLT very well for as much as a limited would cost, and then That'd let me get Powerboost.
My 2012 Ford FX4 5.0L V8 Supercrew, consistently gets 22mpg. So yeah..............
I was hoping for more like 30mpg out of this.
My wife has a 2021 Honda CRV hybrid and she is currently getting 40mpg as per Honda's.
These hybrids (especially the trucks) have a long way to go in the fuel efficiency realm.
I do like the F150 hybrid's 120v plug in's and tailgate power hub. Very cool for many many many reasons. Like for example, when your out glamping, rather than needing to have a dedicated generator for your RV trailer, you could just hook your RV directly into the bed if the F150.
Nothing personal, you’re like the 5th person I’ve responded to with the same ignorant complaint. Hybrids do NOT excel on the highway. They excel in city driving. I guarantee your 5.0 will not even get close to 24 mpg in the city which is what the Powerboost gets easily. Also gotta realize there is still a 400 hp gasoline engine pushing a 3 ton brick!
Some guy during the Texas outages in February managed to power his home off the F-150's generator, and I think it was said he used 1/4 tank of gas for 3 days worth of powering his house.
@@jaysson1151 Not sure if "ignorant" is the correct word here. I do though see your point wrt city driving. My last truck was a (full-size: 8' box Supercrew with tow package) 2010 F150 XL with the 5.4L 3V; on the highway, I was getting around the 21-23mpg range.
@@martinroncetti4134 8 foot box on a supercrew F150? 5.7L in a 2010 Ford? Please tell me you’re joking…
@@jaysson1151 No, those numbers are strictly the highway driving; in the city on the other hand, "Big Red" love to drink gas! I spent the money on good highway tires, a Leer cap and driving around the 105-110kph (62-65mph)
I drive about 85 miles one way, basically 170 miles round trip between home and work, Daly 5-6 days a week, hybrid basically will do nothing for me since it’s all highway, I been looking into this to see what options their is , since I’m buying about $150 gas a week . Maybe the all Electric be different
I get around 20 mpg in the city with my 2.7 EcoBoost with 87 octane so I would probably get 24+ hwy. Stay tuned because I have a 3 hour plus trip when I take my truck in the near future.
The 2.7 is rated at 24 MPG highway, same as the hybrid. Even the 3.5 is rated at 23 MPG highway, so I think it's hard to justify the hybrid.
@@dlg5485 its a gimmick. More crap to fail and ford has enough stuff that fails they don't need to add more. Guess to justify the stupid price they ask for these things.
@@paulkruger2310 To be fair, the hybrid does offer some amazing features, like an onboard power plant that can power your job site, campsite or whatever electricity needs you have. You have to admit, that's pretty cool, but certainly not worth the absurd price.
@@paulkruger2310 theres a market where people want everything. Why are there $1mil supercars or $120k teslas or $500k fricken boats? This is for the construction or camper crowd and Ford cant make enough.
@@Dirtyharry70585 there to expensive and unreliable long term. They won't sell a huge amount of those. Only crazy people spend 80k on a ford f150. And even more crazy on super cars and big boats. Yeah they sell them but not on a huge scale like a toyota corolla or rav 4. More people can buy those or regular trucks. You don't need a rolling generator to camp and fish
I hope Ford makes an optional suspension package for the F-150 with a Watt's link rear end available as part of the package. The lightning and the Raptor both have their own rear suspension designs so having the option to upgrade to something better than leaf springs on the rest of the F-150 range makes sense. I do like how Ford is embracing Hybrids the PowerBoost drivetrain is impressive with some great fuel economy and performance figures excellent job Ford.
Also having the option of AC power outlets in the rear bed is an extremely innovative and handy feature for tradespeople and campers with many surprising uses coming to the fore.
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24 is great for a truck. People need to stop whining about mpg or how expensive it is and on and. No one is forcing you to buy it. Get what you like and be happy.
You’re in Fo Co! Go Rams! Thank you for the great content. This is helping me make a decision on a vehicle. What is your favorite truck for gas mileage?
Excellent review.!
My 98 Silverado was getting 22 highway back in 2002. I have always figured up my mpg this way. The Silverado was a 350 with a 4 speed automatic. Maybe the F-150 would get a few more mpgs if cars today didn't have so much crap in them that they cost as much as $70k and above. Sticker on my Silverado was $26k and change.
One consideration is your 98 Silverado probably only had 200ish horsepower and couldn't tow 12-14,000lbs. The price of these new trucks is getting ridiculous though. $80k for an F150 is crazy.
@@time_on_target It was rated at 255 but would fry the tires off without power braking.
merging onto the interstate under the posted speed limit should earn you a kick in the nuts.
Curious how accurate was the onboard computer calculation...great review btw
Yes I feel like they should've shown the dash or at least throw up comparison numbers. Generally I think the on-board are a tad more optimistic, but would love to see a direct comparison
I was expecting him to show that.
My 2015 is usually off by two MPGs. Says I got 20 when only actually got 18. Not very accurate.
Dream truck
I use my cruise and resume to moderate my drive speed and acceleration and come up to a range of over 600 mile after a top
Off! My 2022 Lariat Power Boost. May be the Limited it heavier then my Lariat. I don’t have a glass roof on my Lariat but do Have the 7.2 kWh generator!
Is premium fuel required for this truck? Truck manual recommends 87 and above.
I have a 2019 F150 Sport EcoBoost. It averages about 20 MPG city and highway and 24 MPG on the highway at 60 MPH. I am considering the F150 Hybrid. The one Hybrid at the Ford dealer cost $62,000 without a premium trim package. I am weighing the cost versus the benefit of the Hybrid for my intended use. That said, it is a sharp truck.
I get 33.5 to 40.5mpg in the city on my 2021 XLT Powerboost.
And I religiously get 26 to 28mpg highway, I live in Louisiana, so it's basically flat.
You have to get more then that, I average 20-21 at 66mph on my 2015 f150 5.0 and it has 151k on it
No very often you see the little town of Wellington on these review videos!
Please give us the super duty hybrid with 7.3l and built in generator
Nice review. You are at some elevation and always wind in Wyoming. MPG would have been different and better especially after 15K miles and sea level. Eco mode means it controls throttle input. The truck is never in AWD/4WD unless you put it in it so not understanding comment
He stated the wind was 5 mph at most that day.
Listen I'm impressed by you! I watched your vids on electric and left it there thinking that's all you were. But now I appreciate you and Subscribed. I love electric, but we're not there yet to tow our Travel Trailer and try charging at a charging station and stopping every 150 miles Ouch. When I turn my truck in 12 mths; will consider this F150 Powerboost Hybrid since it can run my A/C in the Travel Trailer while boondocking and we need that here in Florida. I don't find a Hybrid to be no different than my Truck on the HWY where the hybrid is a champ, City Driving. I have managed on my 2020 2.7L 4cycl GMC crew cab 33 MPG's staying at 48 mph as an average from Key Largo to Big Pine Key, Florida, have it on video here on YT. And in many occasions, I capture 23-24 at 70 mph. Where I lack is city driving, where I get 18 mpg's on average.
I've had my 2021F-150 Hybrid King Ranch for about 4 months and I'm somewhat disappointed with it. The jerky transmission is seldom mentioned. This is very noticeable accelerating from a dead stop or when slowing down before making a turn. A RUclips video I saw suggested driving in the "Eco" mode which, for some reason, made the truck shift a little smoother. I had a 2016 F-150 Ecoboost prior to this one and it usually exceeded the EPA ratings. So far, this truck has not come close! I've read where the electric motor is mainly used during "in town" driving versus "highway". This is where probably 90% of my driving takes place. Would I buy the truck again? I don't think so, especially for what it cost! If my dealer asked me if he could buy it back for what I paid for it, I'd very likely jump at the opportunity despite buying it for $500 under MSRP.
everyone and their brother knows the fact that hybrids excel with mainly in town driving under full or partial electric. All the 10 speeds are jerky compared to previous 6 speed but much better mpg. Sounds likely you didn't do your research
Great write up, I’m really considering ordering one but I’m very concerned ford is smudging those mpgs.
Good review, nice and concise!
I love mine, summer I get around 27 hypermiling and winter 21.7 average sometime more on trip sometimes less. I got the platinum but I love the limited too!
24 mpg? In my 2.7L I drove from Detroit to Atlanta and averaged 25.5 mpg the whole trip mostly with the cruise control set at 70mph. I was expecting more from the hybrid. Kinda disappointing.
Hybrids won't excel on thr highway unless there are rolling hills. Try a 55 mph road with hills and a light throttle as you regen on down hill and use it use it up on up hills.
To add on what Norm is saying, hybrids excel in city traffic where there is a lot of stop and go. But at 70+ mph, it’s all on gasoline power. You also gotta remember it still has a 400 hp 3.5L Ecoboost engine (detuned to 392 hp) pushing a 5600-5800 lb brick. The hybrid truck is much heavier than the regular trucks.
@@jaysson1151 The hybrid gets 24 mpg overall that's not much better than my 2.7 which is doing 21 mpg. When you factor in the price premium for the hybrid I'd say not much improvement over the standard gas. Even the 3.5 ecoboost can get 20 mpg overall.
charles king you said 20 overall, that means combined.... the 3.5 in a 4x4 is rated for 18 in the city.... Usually it gets lower than that. I have a 2012 3.5 4x4 and I’m lucky to get above 14 when commuting in 100% city the whole way. You also don’t buy the Powerboost if your only intention is to save gas. It’s still designed to haul and tow. You’re also limited to 8000 lbs of towing with your 2.7. You also cannot get the 2.7 in a 4x4 Lariat and above. The 5.0 is the base engine, making the Powerboost a $2500 option. If you’re getting a 3.5 anyway, then it’s only $1900 more.
Why do most truck reviews consist of the most decked out cars / trucks ? where are the average reviews , Thank you
there are some this truck comes with column shift in the xlt no need for these high end crap and besides would never buy drive any care with the dumbass panoramic roof the xlt can be bought with out it
How many miles can you run on Eletric/ battery alone, keeping the slowest necessarily speed, and what is the speed in which the truck switch from electric to gas ( on even flat road)?? Thanks
I'm not a Ford fan, but, looks like this will be my next truck. Nobody else makes a hybrid or full electric with a proper 6ft bed, except Ford.
One time in North Dakota driving into a 60+mph head wind my mpg went from ~21mpg down to about ~9mpg and the engine hood was shaking so bad I was afraid the hood latch was going to come loose there was tons of air lifting upwards and I could barely hold 65mph. I hated the experience
A 3/4 ton diesel truck from 2003 gets the same hwy mileage.
17 years is a long way for just bells and whistles.
Damn, do any of you people know how a hybrid works?!? Hybrids excel at city driving! Can your 2003 3/4 ton get 24 mpg in city driving with red lights, bumper-to-bumper traffic, potholes, J-walking pedestrians, cabbies cutting you off, etc etc??? I bet not!
@@jaysson1151 my daily is a hybrid- so no, I have no idea how hybrids work.
Also, the 3/4 ton outweighs the 150 by almost 1,000lbs. Ford didn't design the hybrid system to save fuel, they designed it to be a rolling generator for jobsites.
Yankee Doodle wow 2 months later? Your comeback didn’t prove anything or answer my question. Did you even read my whole comment or just the first sentence? Does your 3/4 ton diesel get 24 mpg in city driving conditions? Seeing how the non-hybrid truck with the same engine gets far less mileage in the city, I’d say that’s a huge improvement for just $1900 more. Most compact crossovers don’t get that kind of mileage in the city either.
I haven’t gotten better than 19 mpg in mine. I did a 423 mile trip with 24 electric miles and I can only get 18.4 mpg.
What's the life of a power boost battery? Cost for replacing? Haven't see this question asked. Since the GUARANTEE is eight years might be a good calculator. Looking to purchase a Lariat next week.
What was the gear ratio in that truck and what did the fuel meter in the truck say in comparison. Great content
All powerboost trucks get 3.73:1 gearing and a 30 gallon gas tank.
Interesting test. However there’s a technical imprecision: any adverse external condition will NOT be completely compensated by going both ways. The reason is that anything that slows down the speed (say, adverse wind) will make you spend MORE TIME in negative condition, while the other way (wind in favor) will make you spend LESS TIME in positive condition. The net result is always a loss of performance when you have wind or altitude variation in the out-and-return route. Btw, this is very well known by any airplane pilot,
@@skellington2000 if you do it you will consume more gas pushing the accelerator to keep the speed with a front wind that what you spare by driving with the wind on the back. End result: you use more gas when it's windy...
I agree with the other guy. He set his cruise control to 70 mpg both times so he’s not going to spend more time going either way. Just more fuel into the wind.
What made you want to put in 91 instead of 87? Most people don't use premium fuel
I'm getting TFL vibes from the octane ratings and fuel-up procedure.
A sixty mile loop is too short. You need to run a full tank of gas with all kinds of driving, city and highway to get a realistic test.
Actually thats a bad idea. City driving is very irregular. My city vs your city may have drastically different traffic patterns. If anything to test city driving they should just cruise around a track at around 25mph so it is always runnining in a low gear and stop for a few minutes every lap. I do agree they need to do at least till the 1/4 full mark though to get a more accurate result. Not all the way down because most peopke do not drive to empty.
@@Hallowsaw Maybe the best thing to do, is just ask people who have one how good the mileage is? I am sure that you will get a lot of different numbers, it depends so much on how you drive, whrere you drive, ect. But, you might get a good general idea of what to expect in the real world. These tests are like the EPA mileage ratings, they really do not replicate a persons mileage over a span of time and conditions, and seasons.
Really? So you're saying if I want to know 70mph highway MPG, I should drive around the city with all kinds of driving for a "realistic" test? That makes no sense at all. If you want "realistic" - as in across all styles of driving, you need a controlled test with highway, a controlled test with city, a "fuel miser" test, an "aggressive driver" test, and a mixed driving test, then people can see how each of those things affect the MPG. You need more than one data point to get the full picture.
I'd like to know what the on board computer said it was getting for fuel mileage.
Thanks for using the GPS. True data yields true results
Thats awesome mpg.. but i have one caviate. Where i live, the interstate speed limit is 65 within the civilization.. butas soon as we are out of the built area, The speed limit jumps to 80.. how do these trucks do at 80 mph?? Will it drop from 24 to 22? Or from 24 to 12???
Im also very curious to see mog tests in city traffic.. my daily commute rarely sees anything higher than 55 mph, and at least a dozen stop lights.. i am curious to see how these vehicles perform in those conditions too. Should i go diesel, gas or hybrid???
What did the truck’s computer report for mileage?
The 2022 Lariat Hybrid cost about 61k with 1k + 3k cash back it sell for about 57k out the door!
I see that you used premium fuel, is that what ford recommends?
I really want Lincoln to hive the truck segment one more try ...but this time no compromise... and should have features that Ford does have ... full rear window that rolls down, a rugged yet elegant interior design, a design language only for a luxury active vehicle ...
Silverado 1500 3L Duramax diesel can easily achieve 33-34 mpg on a highway and it costs way less.
Fuel price covers the difference in economy. Plus it's not rated to pull my 10,000 lb trailer.
yah NO. About 27 at highway speeds empty. Diesels have high maintenance costs and fuel is more. Nice truck though
I'm currently driving a 2018 F150 Platinum, thinking of selling that and upgrading to this new one... The upgrades really seem worth it, any advice? I do a lot of daily city driving, combined with many weekend road trips and longer summer camping trips.
I've got a 2019 F150 Limited. I'm buying a 2021 F150 Limited Hybrid as soon as I can find one. Supply is scarce.
@@nohowtoplz1 super scarce. Purchased one in Feb with a hope for April/May delivery but a fire at chip factory has killed the supply. No ETA. Could be fall until it’s resolved.
I hope you can answer this 🙏 I know that now you have a Rivian truck and love it. And after watching this video, I’m unsure about which you’d prefer, the powerboost or the Rivian? I feel you will answer the Rivian truck. But I’d like for you to confirm it, because this is where I am right now. I’m trying to decide which to go with. Thank you in advance!
Engine is tuned for 87 octane
The truck can tell octane by knock sensors, so can pull or add timing as needed. For best power and efficiency 93 is best
Makes me want one. 24 mpg and all that power is amazing and what's the towing capability for the power boost
For the truck he drove equipped that way 10500
TFL showed it getting worse mileage than a non-hybrid engine towing.
@@rustynail7866 it's heavier. So it will use more fuel
Best thing is that the RV being towed can be connected to the truck as a endless power generator at 30 amp output... very quite and trucks entire fuel tank to run generator...
Platinum hybrid is 69k. Plus you get a 7500 tax credit from uncle Sam. You have a luxury suv with the capability of a truck and 24mpg city...which you could push to even higher if you are light footed in the city. Everything about this truck makes sense
90 RON = Approximately 86 US spec (R+M)/2 ... So 87 should be fine, but possibly 89-91 would give you slightly more power.. Not sure why you would have the European specification on the fuel door with a US truck. Check the operator manual for best results. Good mpg for that size of truck, as long as you stay out of the turbos .. But what's the fun of that :-)
higher octane does not give you more power, this has been researched ad nauseam many many times. It only resists detonation with heavy loads and towing where computer would kick back power to prevent detonation. Try it. ZERO difference in everyday driving. None
It would be interesting to hear what the millage was from the truck computer to check the disparity. My 2018 f150 with 2.7 the computer told me 19.9 mpg but the actual mileage was just over 17.
I don’t know how anybody can actually get 24mpg in this truck. I’ve had my 2021 F150, same motor in platinum trim, for a month. I do have the FX4. I’ve been babying the hell out of it for 2 weeks, always in hybrid mode, and I can’t get an average better than 20.
The first two weeks I drove it in sport mode, regular mode, towed a Jeep with it, and really put it through the paces. I averaged 18. If you buy this truck for 24mpg you’ll be disappointed. That aside, I love mine. It’s everything I want in a truck. More luxurious than my Lexus and it can do everything you’d want out of a half ton pickup
Your bigger wheels in the platinum are probably hurting your mpg. Check out the daily motor channel, he got 23.7 mpg going at 70 mph on a loop.
@@officialyasir I saw the video. I’m on the 2021 F150 forum and nobody can get 24 mpg average at speeds above 55. Are my tires bigger? Maybe but they came with the truck with a sticker advertising 24mpg highway and city. I’m sure once I do my leveling kit and put 34’s on it’ll drop even more. Again I’m not losing sleep over it. Truck is an awesome beast that’s more luxurious than my Lexus or BMW and with more tech. But mpg statements are just false
My 2019 F150 3.5 Ecoboost consistently gets 9.7 L/100 kms (24 mpg US) on highway trips with cruise set at 100 km/h; town and highway combined I consistently average 11.2 L/100 km (21 mpg US). A couple notes: I always use 91 octane, ethanol free fuel, I leave my drive mode in normal not Eco, I like to drive it hard at times but for the most part I drive it like I own it and my mileage drops about 5-10% in the winter with my snow tires on. Loving the Ecoboost........ power and fuel economy. I have a 2022 Powerboost on order.
** update ** After giving up on the mpg and just driving the truck.. 6 months later I started averaging 22.5 mpg. I really think the motor needed a break-in period. That was driving in without a thought given to mpg but admittedly, I don’t drive vehicles as hard as I once did. Last month I put a 2.25 leveling kit on the truck and OC 34’s. I’ve dipped down to 18 mpg.
You do realize the Platinum is heavier and has the high performance 3.5?
Oh you can’t use regular gas in them? You have to use premium?
I think Plug in hybrid will be the way to electrify most of the cars in North America. I myself own a Plug in Hybrid (PHEV) and I love it! 90% of my driving is done on battery only (since most of my trips are under 20 miles round), and I only fill my tank up to half once a month (rarely use fuel, only when I need to tow a trailer every other week for work or on longer road trips like Moab). That will be the case for Most people,and having vehicles like Plug in hybrid SUVs and mini-vans will be how most people can use electric most of the time, still haivng gasoline for longer times. Eventually, I believe Most people will get EVs, but their price and size is also another issue. F-150 Lightning is first larger vehicle, R1S can have 7 Pax and the MOdel X (those are expensive cars, and you can get vans or cross overs for half the cost of some of those). SO, I think again, that for most people saying Plug in hybrid is not the way... I'd disagree. PHEV will be first true large wave of EVs in U.S. I think, and most of those will run on electric 90% of the time since average person in US drives 40 miles a day, and average PHEV range is around 30-35 miles on battery only.
What's so great about that... my F250 7.3 does that and more on the highway!
You used pump 13 outbound then pump 5 inbound. Pump 5 is notorious for a weak cutoff. With error correction that F150 got 60mpg.
How much ist the mpg in a city highway mix though?
Great video! Just subscribed! 👍
What is the point 5.0 two wheels drive is doing over 24 mpg in Florida on highway and diesel silverado is doing 28 mog
If youre doing only highway mileage then yeah those would be better options. But the majority of buyers don't do more than 90% of their driving on the highway.
City and average mpg is the point, if this truck actually gets 24 miles to the gallon then that's definitely an improvement over 2 wheel drive trucks that get 16 to 20 in the city. Plus new diesels have higher cost per mile than similar gas engines, even when the diesel engine gets 30% better average mileage.
And to add onto Vito’s comment: diesels don’t do well in short commutes. Never reaching optimum engine temperatures, never getting a chance to regen, shorter maintenance intervals, more DEF consumption. Too much headaches for a city dweller. However they are great highway cruisers!
Have you tested how far it goes on hybrid only? Just curious how far the battery got you.
Have you checked under the truck for rust because that has been a big problem for the truck
I get 17 mpg in my 4.6 V8 2009 F150. In Canada it is $250 to fill up.
Amazing truck😘
What would be even more impressive is if you used your hand to press the octane button instead of spilling fuel all over the button for next person.
Like the features a ton but dont like the interior presentation if that makes sense, may just be the color though
NO TOW HOOKS on 2023? I ordered last week. The 2023 Build page is now up. I see that the 2023 F150 XL, XLT, Lariat, King Ranch and Platinum does NOT come with tow hooks. You have to buy a $4380 package to get the tow hooks on the Platinum. WTF. Does anyone know if I'll be able to add aftermarket front tow hooks ?
How much is the battery that will need to be replaced in 4 yrs.
I get that in my 2021 Ram 1500 Hemi. Get closer to 25mpg in Arizona at 70mph.
Hybrid doesn't do much for highway mileage.
What model year is this?
I get 22 mpg at 70 mph on a 2020 F150 Crew 6.5 bed 3.5 ecoBoost. If I run 50 mph empty on level roads I've seen 29 - 30 mpg. That's on 87 octane. With the extra cost, maintenance, and reduced towing and payload the hybrid doesn't seem worth it.
This truck runs on 87 just the same and is yours 4x4 with every option?
@@smarterthanyou2674 It is a 4x4 with the XLT high trim, MaxTow, plus a few more options. It has every option I need. Payload and towing capacity are more important to me. That is why I avoided the FX package because it reduces both.
I got a great deal on this F150 on the dealers lot. If i were to order my ideal F150 it would be an XLT mid level trim with the max payload option, which is impossible to find on a dealers lot.
And your truck gets 24mpg in city and has 430hp/570tq? Oh and 7kw generator?
@@luisbarraza9709 No, but I paid $43,000 plus tax for the truck. After buying a generator I can still buy 200,000 - 300,000 miles worth of fuel with the price difference, plus I can tow and haul more, which is why I bought a truck.
@@Doug-gp2qw guaranteed you don’t get a 24 mpg average with your truck and also the powerboost comes in lower trim levels