THE WAVE GUIDE THAT YOU ARE NOT SURE WHAT FOR......is a bandpass 6TH configuration for the low woofer. There are 2 chambers ( the big one reacting with the 2 ports resonators and the little one ( created by the wave guide in front of the cone ). This configuration give a boost in SPL and limit a part of some distorsions. Generally, you can study the bandpass 6th principle also. It;s an old system but rare seen in the fullrange speakers. Usually , seen at very powerfull speakers systems for big venues.
The fact that you just went right into this speaker no fluff no monologue just right into the video and you didn’t stop taking it apart you I thought you were gonna rip the woofer right outta the basket! This was an awsome video
Very interesting hearing the speaker without the wave guide. IMHO, the wave guide really helps in keeping the speaker natural sounding. It makes it especially useful as a vocal monitor on stage.
If I could like this video 200 times I would can you guys do more of these you are the best you actually give useful info, not just some old guy playing music without a meter....
Great video! Do you know what type of screw bit or screwdriver you used to take the grill off? I bought a Torx 5 point set but none of the bits fit the screws.
I wish I’d seen this video before I bought two EON612 amps on eBay. They say they’re rated 1000W, I don’t see how that’s possible. Thanks for the tear down. The replacement EON612 amps I just bought came with no documentation. I also have JBL PRX812w’s, they crank. But none of them approach the volume of my discrete horn, mid, & sub setups.
That coil you found on the speaker leads is probably to filter out any 400kHz from the class D oscillator. Any chance you have a copy of the schematic? Or know how to get one?
great video! which fullrange speaker would you recommend to get the "bass in the chest" feeling? I would use it to play hard techno, acidcore,... music genres with a hard kick and bass
Usually I use the volume of speakers at 12h. But those have volume knobs. Which position should I use those master and Chanel volumes to make them sound loud without have any damage on speaker?
Question, I just bought the 610, plugged a mic. In line, and it’s not loud at all, do I need to run a mixer for loudness? If I use the mic option, it is a bit louder. Thoughts? Thank you.
Thanks for the video, I bought a pair of Eon 612'ves refurbished at eBay about 2 years ago. One tweeter blew out on my third gig (I'm a casual Home DJ for home parties), at that time, the speaker was under JBL warranty. This weekend the same thing happened on the other speaker, my question is: Is this a common problem from these Models? I hardly ever use the EONS since I own several other speakers. I find it shocking that after only 8-10 gigs this problem persists. Any comments on this issue? Thanks.
Great video! What are your thoughts on this as a stand-alone system for acoustic singer-songwriter type stuff? The “no low end” made me nervous 😬 Thanks!
Bro bu removing the wave guide you lose the bass response of those speaker I did that and thought my boxes were bad put them back on and you will notic the difference....
going down the rabbit hole of pa systems and I stumbled upon your interesting channel. hope you continue tearing shit apart. maybe get enough subs yah tearing down a heresy 4 or a triangle theta.
Sorry for the delay! New video this week, The second video for the hifi budget series, keep ya eyelids peeled! Thanks for all the comments and support!
Hey I have a vonyx ap1500a and it’s Chinese and I’m tryna find da real version of my speaker if are familiar with my speakers could u pls tell me da acc brand dat makes the speakers thx
Don't forget that the db that all manufacturers tell are very difficult to get. They may reach those values with a very lenear music and with low base equalization on mixer. These models have 500w Rms and they are very loud. If you add a sub for gigs or weddings they are perfect. I have 2 eon12" and a db technologies15" sub and don't need more than this for weddings up to 200 guests.
@@LioSintra Thx,so i tested my little 6,5 monitors with a dB meter look like similar in @ 20w rms ~ 108,7dB! That's why I was interested. If you have an 500w amp powered by 400w @ 95dB sensivity speaker 10 feet - 111dB + more can do. 3 feet 121 , 3 feet - 20 watt 108dB... questionable that its true sensitivity is no less than 95dB 1w\m. When i have time to listening this JBL 612 would be curious.
You should d oa test and a teardown to the JBL EON618S 1,000 Watt peak 500 RMS. So frickin loud in person and i barely even went up volume and the bass is just INSANELY DEEP BASS AND BOOMING XD I tested it out at the Guitar Center on a couple of my music and holly craP I AM GETTIN' THAT BEAST NOW XD I have 2 2,000 Watt QSC K10 K.2 10 inch top subwoofer speaker. Insanely loud and thumping punching bass from them. I have the Gains set to the 12 O' clock position and i barely have the volume up (I always have the setting preset to Dance and i frickin love them. 2 QSC 2,000 Watts 10 inch K.2 K10 10 inch Drivers. (I sound tested them at Guitar Center and i was like Oh my god i am GETTIN' DEM BOYZ XD AND ALSO I SOUND TESTED THE JBL EON 618S 1,000 WATT SUBWOOFER LOL. SO INSANELY LOUD AND DEEP BASS OF PUNCHING DEEP THUMPING BASS ASWELL. It shook the entire big display-room / show-room. I'm soon gonna get it in like 2 more months.
I have two 612 to replace my old Mackie Srm450 and made a configuration with JBL app via Bluetooth and I it is very impressive the sound of it. If you also have one can do the configuration that Djrickweb did, it looks a total new speaker with that configuration. Thanks for your videos.
Your model are very good and I like more the sound of Grey model (only have volume knob) instead of black model with eq buttons. But when you need high volume they loose quality. With this model if you use the app you can get the same quality in all volumes. I even made them clip and the sound keep same quality and much more louder than old jbl models. I think this is a kombat speaker model just like old g2 were. Other manufactory like Mackie can't make new kombat models like the old srm 450 v1 and V2. But Jbl and Yamaha still can.
Wow, JBL loaded with a $10 woofer and dry (non-ferrofluid cooled) tweeter. Its light, its loud, its clear, its not cheap and is made cheaply BUT it has a wingnut yaaay... R.I.P. - JBL
The components were incredibly cheap, no wonder the whole thing was so light, I don’t think it would stand up to sustained high volumes. To be fair though, it is common among all companies to use cheap components, it’s just that these are among the worst I’ve seen
@@sonny9546 The pa 302 is not bad for the casting subwoofer, although it is a Chinese copy. However, there are pressed chassis in the top crates of almost every brand, even in slightly more expensive speakers. Eg the big QSC K, Ev Zlx, Ekx, but even in Etx, Hk audio Premium pro, Linear 3, but even in Linear 5 (Linear 5,115 FA: $ 1,230 Thomann) !!!!!
THE WAVE GUIDE THAT YOU ARE NOT SURE WHAT FOR......is a bandpass 6TH configuration for the low woofer. There are 2 chambers ( the big one reacting with the 2 ports resonators and the little one ( created by the wave guide in front of the cone ). This configuration give a boost in SPL and limit a part of some distorsions. Generally, you can study the bandpass 6th principle also. It;s an old system but rare seen in the fullrange speakers. Usually , seen at very powerfull speakers systems for big venues.
Please man don't stop doing this... you're great... expecting more PA's..!
The fact that you just went right into this speaker no fluff no monologue just right into the video and you didn’t stop taking it apart you I thought you were gonna rip the woofer right outta the basket! This was an awsome video
Very interesting hearing the speaker without the wave guide. IMHO, the wave guide really helps in keeping the speaker natural sounding. It makes it especially useful as a vocal monitor on stage.
Does it have deep bass or bass is really good than its patybox speakers
If I could like this video 200 times I would
can you guys do more of these you are the best
you actually give useful info, not just some old guy playing music without a meter....
Great video! Do you know what type of screw bit or screwdriver you used to take the grill off? I bought a Torx 5 point set but none of the bits fit the screws.
Yes what tool and bit is used to remove the grill?
I’m running these JBLs with an older 18 inch EV sub and they sound amazing.
Finally a great detailed video of this!!!
I have one else showing the clip to my uncle good clip you're very well detailed and very well-informed on your talk about speakers
Great review and loved the teardown. I already own a pile of eons for small to medium live events and love them. Keep up the good work, thank you!
Can I use this equipment for karaoke songs?
I wish I’d seen this video before I bought two EON612 amps on eBay. They say they’re rated 1000W, I don’t see how that’s possible.
Thanks for the tear down. The replacement EON612 amps I just bought came with no documentation.
I also have JBL PRX812w’s, they crank. But none of them approach the volume of my discrete horn, mid, & sub setups.
I had a 612 eon one time that I converted to passive, and it was a pretty good sounding speaker
Do you recommend for spoken word? Say Stand Up comedy in bar, restaurants etc?
That coil you found on the speaker leads is probably to filter out any 400kHz from the class D oscillator.
Any chance you have a copy of the schematic? Or know how to get one?
We would need to contact the manufacturer for that and hope for a reply
So, should I take the Waveguide Plastic Off?
Could I connect some Behringer Eurolive B1200D-PRO to these? Would I just run a cable from the “through”?
Where does the cord hook up to? I'm replacing a woofer and this red cord is just here. Help please
Which are the 3-way speakers at rear ?
How did you connect Bluetooth ??
Can you do some content on best affordable powered subwoofer
great video! which fullrange speaker would you recommend to get the "bass in the chest" feeling? I would use it to play hard techno, acidcore,... music genres with a hard kick and bass
Jbl Eon 612 vs Rcf art 712 ?????? Thanks
Are these better that the alto ts312?
Good review . I'd like to see you take apart a JBL PRX 815 to see differences between the two series of powered tops.
Hola, cual recomiendas, jbl eon 12” o la bocina QSC PC8 ? Gracias
Would this be good for private karaoke events and wedding reception karaoke?
Nice video. Would love to see you give the Eon 712 the same treatment.
Which cables I need to conect my JBL 12” and JBL 15” to mackie mix ?🙏
Usually I use the volume of speakers at 12h. But those have volume knobs. Which position should I use those master and Chanel volumes to make them sound loud without have any damage on speaker?
The best way we used it was, 12-3 o'clock on master with the channel gain anywhere from 0 to max.
@@2DudesAudio what is the difference between
jbl eon 610 1000 watts
and
Jbl eon 615 1000 watts
Do they sound different?
Or what is the difference?
@@2DudesAudio So can I use on 3/4 on master and max on individual channel? Will the sound work well? Thx!
@@GlaucoMoledo yes
Hai raggiunto 118 decibel, ad arrivare ai 126 dichiarati si arriva o sono solo valori dichiarati in eccesso?Grazie
can you make a video with yamaha dbr10?
Hi there , i'm from belgium and have a request, can you please do a revieuw of the behringer b1500xp or b1800xp please please....greetings
Where do you get these at $299?
Question, I just bought the 610, plugged a mic. In line, and it’s not loud at all, do I need to run a mixer for loudness? If I use the mic option, it is a bit louder. Thoughts? Thank you.
Does this particular speaker need a amp
Hi guys will the qsc cp 12 will be better choice the eon 612?
The waveguide is there to help control sound dispersion. To help prevent waveform frequency cancellation. It's not to improve frequency response.
Hmm where the hell is the process box?
I'm thinking about getting one to xrl out of my guitar amp wonder how it would sound
Thanks for the video, I bought a pair of Eon 612'ves refurbished at eBay about 2 years ago. One tweeter blew out on my third gig (I'm a casual Home DJ for home parties), at that time, the speaker was under JBL warranty. This weekend the same thing happened on the other speaker, my question is: Is this a common problem from these Models? I hardly ever use the EONS since I own several other speakers. I find it shocking that after only 8-10 gigs this problem persists. Any comments on this issue? Thanks.
i have a pair, i replaced the tweeter on one speaker twice. idk y?
can you check out the jbl vrx918s
Great video! What are your thoughts on this as a stand-alone system for acoustic singer-songwriter type stuff? The “no low end” made me nervous 😬 Thanks!
What about JBL vs Mankie?
What do you think about the eon 610?
Newer eons will get the job done 👍
Which pair of speakers are they in the background. 4x4
Polk audio SDA
Can a car amplifier work on the speaker
Hope one day soon you get a change to have hands of the eon one powered speaker and or that new irx112bt jbl series to have a tear down .
you invented a new format of product review
Mine is muffled but idk why like the bass and all that I can still hear it like it's being heard through a wall or sum🤦
Can you review the cerwin vega cve-15
Hey do some rcf fbt and Db tech reviews👍🏾
Please make more videos please!!!! Also can you make a video about the studio subwoofers on your 10th video please!!!!
Bro bu removing the wave guide you lose the bass response of those speaker I did that and thought my boxes were bad put them back on and you will notic the difference....
do you think that the bass would be good enough for apartment use? why does he say that the bass isnt good when its 12 inches?
What speaker you recommend that can be used alone?
That's a tough question. Depends on use.
going down the rabbit hole of pa systems and I stumbled upon your interesting channel. hope you continue tearing shit apart. maybe get enough subs yah tearing down a heresy 4 or a triangle theta.
Keep breaking them cabs down dude!!! Great video again.
love your reviews thanks so much
Keep coming with the speaker vids!!!!
Im looking for a great sub to buy...
Sorry for the delay! New video this week, The second video for the hifi budget series, keep ya eyelids peeled! Thanks for all the comments and support!
Can you guys Review Alto Ts315?
Ev zlx, zxa1 sub tear down! 🙃
Hey I have a vonyx ap1500a and it’s Chinese and I’m tryna find da real version of my speaker if are familiar with my speakers could u pls tell me da acc brand dat makes the speakers thx
Really like your review bro. Yam fajei
Great review guys thanks
I will like to get a review on the jbl eon618 sub
Now please review the EON 618s
We sure will try!
Is JBL party box 300 better than it ?
Not sure. I would assume no but we havent checked one out
@@2DudesAudio JBL party box has no power.. that's sad cause it has a very nice song
maybe partybox 300 sounds better, but not as loud
@@sonny9546 I agree, the sound is way better but is'nt enough for a huge place
I have the party box in my car and it works well
@@ĐayzZ-ed partybox 1000 should be suitable for large places but it is very expensive but I think it sounds better than PA
Do i see a folded horn box in the background? Or am I tripping
You may be a little psychic since we plan on featuring a folded horn sub in a new video.
mackie trump 15a teardown video please
This one or the alto ts312?
JBL all the way
2 Dudes Audio thanks for the quick reply, which one has more bass?
When you going to review the Jbl Irx 12? And great vid by the way
JBL always old school one of the best.
Old school JBL is the besttt 4300s all day!
These speakers are way better than the mackie thump 12a's. I had them both and these blow those out of the water!
Great video!
Zlx please!!
This driver is an upgrade magnet to the jrx225 speaker hehe
Thanks vid
108dB ? Something wrong with the spl meter ? Description read... 126dB max SPL from what distance half than 1m. :O
I like the video anyway. 🙃
Yeah it's what we got at 1 meter roughly. Dont get me wrong it was insane loud. Remember every 3 db is twice the intensity.
Don't forget that the db that all manufacturers tell are very difficult to get. They may reach those values with a very lenear music and with low base equalization on mixer. These models have 500w Rms and they are very loud. If you add a sub for gigs or weddings they are perfect. I have 2 eon12" and a db technologies15" sub and don't need more than this for weddings up to 200 guests.
@@LioSintra Thx,so i tested my little 6,5 monitors with a dB meter look like similar in @ 20w rms ~ 108,7dB! That's why I was interested. If you have an 500w amp powered by 400w @ 95dB sensivity speaker 10 feet - 111dB + more can do. 3 feet 121 , 3 feet - 20 watt 108dB... questionable that its true sensitivity is no less than 95dB 1w\m. When i have time to listening this JBL 612 would be curious.
@@2DudesAudio 108 Db is not that loud, I have a jbl partybox 300 that sounds as loud at 1 meter, I measured it
You should d oa test and a teardown to the JBL EON618S 1,000 Watt peak 500 RMS. So frickin loud in person and i barely even went up volume and the bass is just INSANELY DEEP BASS AND BOOMING XD I tested it out at the Guitar Center on a couple of my music and holly craP I AM GETTIN' THAT BEAST NOW XD I have 2 2,000 Watt QSC K10 K.2 10 inch top subwoofer speaker. Insanely loud and thumping punching bass from them. I have the Gains set to the 12 O' clock position and i barely have the volume up (I always have the setting preset to Dance and i frickin love them. 2 QSC 2,000 Watts 10 inch K.2 K10 10 inch Drivers. (I sound tested them at Guitar Center and i was like Oh my god i am GETTIN' DEM BOYZ XD AND ALSO I SOUND TESTED THE JBL EON 618S 1,000 WATT SUBWOOFER LOL. SO INSANELY LOUD AND DEEP BASS OF PUNCHING DEEP THUMPING BASS ASWELL. It shook the entire big display-room / show-room. I'm soon gonna get it in like 2 more months.
I have two 612 to replace my old Mackie Srm450 and made a configuration with JBL app via Bluetooth and I it is very impressive the sound of it. If you also have one can do the configuration that Djrickweb did, it looks a total new speaker with that configuration. Thanks for your videos.
Excelent!!
The manufacturing quality is better in Mexico then in China .
My EON G2's were $799 new. These new EON's are cheap and they sound like it lol.
That's what happens when buyers demand cheap prices
Yeah, the older generation sure packed more punch, all the new stuff is dsp out the butt.
Your model are very good and I like more the sound of Grey model (only have volume knob) instead of black model with eq buttons. But when you need high volume they loose quality. With this model if you use the app you can get the same quality in all volumes. I even made them clip and the sound keep same quality and much more louder than old jbl models. I think this is a kombat speaker model just like old g2 were. Other manufactory like Mackie can't make new kombat models like the old srm 450 v1 and V2. But Jbl and Yamaha still can.
@@LioSintra You're saying that these 615's have the same sound quality as the G2's? Hmmm... Very interesting statement lol.
@@davidneighbors5013 You should hear them by yourself 😉
Wow, JBL loaded with a $10 woofer and dry (non-ferrofluid cooled) tweeter. Its light, its loud, its clear, its not cheap and is made cheaply BUT it has a wingnut yaaay... R.I.P. - JBL
I broke those two times there bad never get those eon again
1200W my arse. I bet it doesn't reach even half that.
Just started the video and the music is driving me crazy! Sorry , I have to go.
No bluetooth streaming. Lame!
Got this for small gatherings to stream via bluetooth and you cannot do that with these speakers.
JBL eon610 is more louder
Where is the damn fuse? ARRRGHH Please point out the fuse. Please....
JBL eon6 no bass
China
You’re dangerous to DJ societies
Pew! pew! Watch out!👀
crap
The components were incredibly cheap, no wonder the whole thing was so light, I don’t think it would stand up to sustained high volumes. To be fair though, it is common among all companies to use cheap components, it’s just that these are among the worst I’ve seen
yes, even the cheap thomman speakers (PA302) have a better woofer than that : ruclips.net/video/Z0sG6d0MWiQ/видео.html
@@sonny9546 The pa 302 is not bad for the casting subwoofer, although it is a Chinese copy. However, there are pressed chassis in the top crates of almost every brand, even in slightly more expensive speakers. Eg the big QSC K, Ev Zlx, Ekx, but even in Etx, Hk audio Premium pro, Linear 3, but even in Linear 5 (Linear 5,115 FA: $ 1,230 Thomann) !!!!!
that is cheap junk