SteelSeries, your mic is good. Stop the false advertising.
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- Опубликовано: 4 июл 2024
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Chapters:
00:00 - Stop making claims like this
00:58 - 50% off stream alerts and overlays with Own3d.tv (ad)
01:43 - Mic Overview
02:12 - Good thing - Build Quality
03:05 - Bad thing - Power Adapter
03:34 - Good thing - Audio Quality (SOUND TEST)
04:24 - Bad thing - XLR Interface
07:32 - Good thing - Sonar Mixing Software
09:12 - Good thing - Dual USB on the Interface
09:30 - Worst thing - The False Advertising
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Description tags, yo: microphone, usb, XLR, condenser, SteelSeries, Alias, Sonar, mixer, mixing software, GG, quality, premium, gaming, streaming, obs, broadcasting
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What do you think of the mic OR what's your favorite mic right now? (or answer both, whatever, I'm not the boss of you)
my CAD GXL2200 is amazing
I dig their pro headphones that you recommended years ago. Not sure the mic will be an upgrade for me.
It looks nice, but I’m currently using the elgato wave. I bought into it back when you released it and compared it to an expensive mic. I’ve tried tuning mine but have never been satisfied with how I sound in recordings. Is there a company or place I can go to and send a recording and have someone customize settings to sound great that I can then adjust on my end?
how did they release this in its current state? Seems strange, like they didnt test it, not a big fan of "gaming gear" coming out unfinished in the same way some games come out unfinished nowadays. But great video- I am looking for a replacement for the GOXLR. So if you see anything that could do that, I would love to see it from this channel
My favorite Budget Mic Rn is the Rode-NT USB+, And favorite XLR Mic for streamers atm is the Lewitt 440 Pure
Thank you for calling them out. They seem to know what makes a good product, but rush them out a bit. While a software-heavy approach might be always fixable later, it could also never happen.
I have so so so many of their best products and i love them (duh otherwise i wouldn't spend soooo much money on them) but they are overpriced definitely. I mainly bought them because of FaZe Clan even tho I have little to do with them. I am aware of the mistakes i made but i wont change. That should not be a reason to buy stuff but it was for me and now i have all of their stuff and am buying this microphone too.
@@Alexifeu bro did NOT learn his lesson
@@Alexifeu "I'm aware of the mistakes I made, but I won't change." I'm genuinely dumbfounded by your comment.
@@Kamiyada27 I can't tell if it's just a bait because wth kinda mindset is that
good point, the apex pro was bad because they rushed it as other companies also started expirementing with the hall effect switches, for a long while they had the worst HE keyboard that wasnt alot faster but now... its the second best option due to a small redesign and software updates
Gotta say, I love the "It's good enough, so stop lying" stance. Besides, the streaming community is gonna research this stuff anyway- with the amount of money we're spending on our soft & hardware, we need the facts up front, lol
u need viewers too and i doubt in the beginning they care about the mic being the quality of a studio recording mic
But that's the thing: this mic is already good. They don't need to lie, the truth will sell the thing just fine.@@undergroundjem645
@@undergroundjem645 Yea, obviously. He didn't say otherwise?
It's a trash stance that lowers the standard of living. It's a trash usb mic with a scam xlr version. Don't eat this slop up and buy a behringer c-1
@@CaptKami18 U DONT COMPREHEND ANYTHING LMAOOOO LOSER
Fellow audio engineer dropping by. Everything said here checks out. Great vid 🫡
I swear if I catch you pulling a KickedTripod I'm revoking your audio engineering license.
Agreed. I’ve used mics made by DPA that are so so tiny, but still blew me away with how good they sound.
TIL Theo is an audio engineer?
@@trebabcock no he's just a moron
Jim Lill's latest video on microphones does a deep dive into this, trying out capsules of all mics, and with a nice testing rig actually play everything side by side with proper frequency distribution graphs and so much analysis. I wish consumer brands didn't treat us like babies and gave us more technical insight, give us the nerdy stuff, the graphs, the specs, even in the marketing material.
It's a wider symptom of anti-intellectualism and willful ignorance in the general public at large. They don't WANT to know too much, and more importantly, the leadership of major companies (not the engineers themselves) don't want you to know too much either. This is why R2R is SO goddamn important.
I just saw a video by Sarah-n-Tuned that she posted an hour ago where she was able to use a 50-year-old technical booklet that had FULL technical instructions for the wiring layout. Even just 20 or 15 years ago, this sort of technical information was freely and widely available for a large variety of products. Now? Good fucking luck lol.
These mics dont target audio-enthusiasts. The marketing and probably also the mic itself is literally not made for you if thats what you want to see in short advertisements.
@@spdcrzy It's funny how software has been moving towards mass open-sourcing, while hardware is doing the opposite. Even computing hardware is overpriced and underdocumented, you can build a high-end server for less than $1000 with used 7-year-old parts lmfao
@@CallMeTeci It comes down to being able to do your due research if you want to. And not lying in an advertisement
@@nade5557 Wrong brand and mic then. Professionals wouldnt care about those overmarketed buzzword filled toys.
And honestly this video has as much bs in it as the advertisement for the mic itself.
The worst thing is, there must’ve been an audio engineer involved in the design process of this thing at some point. And yet they got this so wrong in so many ways.
Yup. Probably because the marketing department didn't understand a word the engineer said, and just went with their own stuff. Happens so often, it seems.
@@floorpizza8074 The marketing department doesn't care, and it really isn't their job to care tbh. False marketing like this is only bad if they get punished for it, and they won't.
If marketing can get away with straight up lying, they will do it and I can't even blame them. Unless regulatory agencies are allowed to tear these companies to shreds they will keep doing it because it is quite literally the best choice they can make.
so what ur saying is 1 audio engineer is suppose to come up w everything another would and both would perfect it....thats stupid. no one is equal so why would their ideas be equally as great? not even teams can get things 100% right why would you expect everything in the world to be 100% were only human
@@undergroundjem645 What are you talking about man
@@ltcuddles685 im answering to the comment the original one goofy...have you ever been in engineering curriculums
man, this attitude you had around this mic was not only informative, and helpful to me, but was a relief of authenticity RUclips has been lacking lately, because the side of actually believing in the mice being good.
Moreover, putting your morals front and center is a great influence on the world. I appreciate that.
I hope SteelSeries sees this and doesn't feel attacked but more ashamed. Then i hope they act accordingly and do what you suggest to their product.
Thank. you for making a great video.
Side note, at 4:25, that mic and setup, you sound like that guy in "film editing pro" who, in my opinion, has one of the greatest audio treatments to him voice. very natural but strong.
Thank you so much for this! I was looking at this mainly for the simplistic dual pc option. I was skeptical and was really hoping you’d review this before I made another purchase I’d be unhappy with! Thank you so much for all you do!
I have always strayed away from organisations that post false marketing materials. There is no reason to do that as it's going to push away the people that understand from the brand. If the microphone's good, there's no need to make stuff up. I am loving my elgato wave1 and there wasn't the same bs there.
Videos Awsome! Ty for all your hard work! have helped me more than any other videos on YT and love what you do for the Community
Thank you for all of the reviewing that you do! and also love the streaming setup vids!
This video came up at perfect timing. Looking at new mics for the future right now and was eyeing some of their mics and headsets.
Always good stuff. Its mind blowing that companies are releasing things with massive shortcomings when its so obvious that there are huge channels like this that will point them out.
Transparency in this industry is paramount. Thank you for pointing this out
I've been waiting for this video to come out from you as soon as they released this mic.
Thanks for all your reviews and stuff, helps me choose my streaming gear without being too much in the unknown of what's good and what's not, really appreciate it, keep up the good work Harris ^^
Honestly I've been using the Steelseries software for awhile now, it feels like they're constantly adding features to it. Lately it feels like they took a deeper dive into it and added a bunch more stuff, heck the added the auto-clipping, 3d aim trainer, the sonar streamer mode, and a lot of other small and big features. The keybinds part they added was also fairly recent. I wouldn't be surprised if they fix the weird mic thing in another update in under a month from now. Also always be sure to select the beta opt-in features as it sometimes has features that aren't fully realized and still being developed, that could've been what was causing the issue with the mic too tbh. Idk for sure, just a random user and have been using Steelseries for about 3-4 years now.
I currently use and recommend the Shure MV7, dual inputs for growth and upgrades, sound comparable to the sm7b and dynamic helps to cut ambient noise. Harris, love the content and while I understand that bigger isn't better, them comparing to the yeti isn't far fetched since streamers either have a yeti or sm7b for the most part. Just like most streamers have a Sony alpha or brio. Same with goXLR yes most still have the goXLR still to this day. Don't believe me, do a poll. Keep up the good work though sir!
Also own and use an MV7 and agree it is a fantastic mic. Pricy, but but you’re absolutely getting a quality mic.
I love my MV7, have it connected to a Scarlett Solo, works and sounds great.
I have the MV7X (MV7 with XLR connector) and love mine. Big upgrade to what I was using before.
I actually really like having easy access to a gain knob, but it has to be set up in a very specific way. I make sure that 50% (usually a cardinal direction) on the knob is the baseline, which means I can use it to fine-tune and easily return to the baseline. When you only use the gain knob for tuning then the way SteelSeries has it set up is actually more useful than having it go all the way to silent, which would make for a very sensitive knob.
Great video!
I'd love to hear more of the microphone during your review. Swap back and forth more so it's more obvious to hear the difference compared to your baseline mic.
I also would like to hear another mic on that interface, lol.
The Wave 3 also still sends a signal when the gain is all the way down.
Truth in advertising is a major sticking point for me and makes me glad I went with the Elgato Wave DX instead.
love the music man in the background; solid guitar and worth every penny
In the SteelSeries GG app the gain adjust for the mic is in the Mixer tab, not the Mic tab. Just make sure you have your mic set as the input device. It's on the far right column, but in the Mixer tab.
Is there any chance the "gain" knob is bi-modal, i.e. press it once before turning it for gain control, then press it again before turning for monitor volume control. Good review! Thank you as always.
i love to see awesome content creators like yourself calling out these big companies when they lie to their customers, we need more people like you!
It goes to show that there are still big companies lying about their products because people dont know better......
thank you for this review i was really hoping u would take a look at this mic and see if it was everything the ad said so thank yo harris for another amazing vid
🤯Thank you for the review! I believe SteelSeries may have been referring to a headset mics in microphones diaphragm comparison
I'm considering a college engineering project involving modular audio equipment, allowing quick swaps of mic capsules and frames (e.g., dynamic to shotgun mics). Do you think there's a market for this, or should I stick to making a shotgun mic and mixer?
The mixer would also be dynamic allowing a user to change the amount of faders buttons and more. If the project goes well I might expand on it and give more functionality.
a modular mic would be cool, I think it's good enough of a niche to work
100% there is a market for that. Audio designers for games and movies could seriesly benefit from having an easily swappable pickup method
7:52 this is actually super useful for Windows 11 users since Microsoft just decided we don't need a built-in mixer anymore
I am so glad someone likes of yourself reviewed this as I found the typical creator hyped it so much. I was really considering this for my new setup to go with my new steelseries apex mini, honestly.. I just can't help the fact Elgato have the full setup of mic, shock mount, pop filter & LP arm for £230. Back to the wave 3 I go again!!!
FINALLY the person I’ve been waiting on to talk about this mic. legoo
Beautiful! 2:27 Edit: Can we get a Steel Series GG video run down all to itself?
RandomFrankP had a great one. He goes into serious detail.
TheFrugalStreamer has good coverage on Sonar/SteelSeriesGG as well
1> You might be peaking but I hear no clipping - also you have OBS to thank for mic filters, that WILL lower the gain and will clean up the mic audio.
Thank you for this review, helps with my decision between standard or pro Alias that I was wanting to gift my brother. I just gotta hope a compatible boom arm comes around sometime soon if the Steelseries one isn't restocked in time lol
Those Magic Animate 3 transitions, simply beautiful. I see you Dustin.
Speaking of false advertising, your title is doing the exact same thing. This is quite a stretch. THEY SAID 3 TIMES AND IT'S ONLY 2.2 - And I'm comparing to another above average mic!
Big agree on having a Gain knob be in software, because 9/10 you dial it in for your setup, and that's it. The rest is just level control. Would much rather see a software gain, and then interface be able to control your input level inside OBS or something like that, or have it set to control a mix level inside that wonderful mix software they provide (which is very cool about this product)
I like the separate power brick. USB power is notorious for signal noise that is borderline unfixable. Even if USB power would be sufficient, auxiliary power at least as an option is a required feature for any decent audio interface imo.
Top Notch review. Honest, to the point, and very informative. Just my 2 cents on it though, while they aren't specific, I do believe their claim to the diaphragm size is based on headset microphones, and not actual competition of their Alias. Which is very misleading, but we all know how much marketing teams like to "exaggerate" specs.
What a great call out and review. Keep up the great work!
I have a RODE 2 Mic. combined with Voicemod - Voice Enhancer: tweak noise reduction, bass, treble, pitch, etc. It works well for a mid range microphone. great for anyone who want to upgrade from a cheap mic but doesn't want to spend thousands for a studio mic.
ive been using steel series gg since i got my apex 3 tkl and can honestly say between moments and sonar, i absolutely love it
Hey Harris, great Video. I would like to have a video on only the free software you mentioned. Explaining everything and maybe comparing it a bit to Wavelink. I'm interested in a little tutorial of this free audio mixing software.
I really wanted to like the Alias Pro since I recently started a dual pc setup but the lack of total control of my stream audio was a deal breaker. I did one stream with it and decided to stick with my Wave 3 mic and Wavelink to control my stream audio. I still use Sonar for my gaming audio because the eq is amazing.
Image and sound design student here. Everything said checks out from a technical standpoint. Excellent video brother!
With regards to the 3.2 larger claim, i took it to mean vs gaming headsets and not other standalone xlr / usb mics.
Is that a Majesty guitar at the back?! :O
Harris I have a blue snowball and been meaning to upgrade it for a while I have it on an arm so it doesn't pick up sounds from my desk and stuff but it still picks up fans in my room from, PC/PS5 and minifridge should I buy a new mic and if you have a suggestion please let me know or is there anything i could do to resolve this issue?
Can tell you studied audio, The background music levels in your video are perfect. So many videos have bg audio that is just a touch too loud and becomes distracting, so thank you
the mixer has its issues. It takes up a ton of system resources for no reason what so ever. Its the reason i switched to voicemeeter, it also likes to reset my inputs a lot which i find infuriating. also their claims of the diaphragm being 3x bigger i think is comparing to the tiny mics on headsets not standalone microphones.
Thank you for your well thought out and objective review, Senpai Gaming.
I just got a Trust GXT 232 about 3 yrs back it's a cheap £20-40 price range mic and then I bought a mic arm for like £20 and then I spent £35 when voicemod was on sale for a lifetime membership no subscription needed that and OBS filters is all I use to tweak my mic the OBS is a little more complicated to set up for the non software savvy but voicemod's voice lab is relatively simple to use and you could pick how to use it in a quick 5-10 minute youtube tutorial I don't need a £150-350 mic to sound like i'm in a studio doing a podcast and I love it! plus alot of softwares have built in noise cancellation like discord so it's got you covered there too i'm getting a rog s core headset for £82 week after next and it's mainly for comfortability on pc it being only 270g and a nice big cushion for the headbad and ears!
the mic is cheap but sounds decent enough that if I use my software that it wont matter! and voicemod has pop filter options these days
Cool stuff! Bummer about the gain control; can confirm the GG software and Sonar are AWESOME!
One thing worth mentioning with the software: I've owned Steelseries Headsets since before they launched GG, and I still can't get into their new software. The old one hadd less fuctions sure, but it was a one time set and forget and it just worked. This new software I don't even use because it crashes every 5 minutes, and every time it crashes all the mic inputs and stuff to my OBS stop working and I have to manually reset it it all and re-add all my audio sources. I've not looked into this issue and this could be entirely a personal issue with my specific setup or fixed since I tried it last, but I feel it's worth mentioning. When it works it's awesome! It just isn't reliable enough from my experience if you want to use it for streaming etc
I have been using steelseries gg for around 4 months and have been loving it for its mixing for gaming
If you go to the mixer setting in their software the mic part on the far right is the gain setting I believe
I know it's not in the segment you're discussing, but for me and my voice, my favorite microphone hands down is the beta 58A. It just sounds "right" to my ear.
HTC had a magnetic phone case back in 2016-2016 ish and the HTC ONE case lit back lit holes in the front of the case and this mic looks almost inspired from that
First video I'm watching from you and bro, the moment you start talking I was flashed from the soundquality of your mic. I just wanted to have the same mic until you mentioned its price :D. RIP. BTW great Review!
While the Audio software being free and not requiring any hardware is a huge W. As for the Hardware i wouldn't recommend this to anyone in a world were the Elgato Wave 3 Exists for cheaper than the USB option. And for the XLR option you can get a Wave XLR and DX option, or a Beacn Mic for high quality Dynamic Microphone for cheaper. All the while being easier to use and generally better products.
Can you do a quick video explaining/setting up this microphone when it comes to a dual PC set up?
Correct me if im wrong but the XLR mic needs a power brick as the mic is a XLR condenser mic so it needs phantom 48v not the 5v provided by USB, the cheaper mic is straight USB so its not getting the most out of the condenser pod.
Clipping can be solved by turning down the artificial gain that windows puts on your mic to make it louder btw, in the sound settings. You dont want it at 100%, maybe more like 50 or 60.
The power brick is for the ability to power condensator microphones with 48V phantom power via XLR port.
The gain knob sounds like it's just broken, or not functioning as intended. Does have a neat lighted ring, but it feels like they went too far with the DC power input. Like someone calibrated it with only USB power (which is plenty to power XLR mics, from what I've seen).
i will say for sure the mic look very aesthetically pleasing to me love the design
Your reviews are so good, they should be paying you to design these things. Looking for a Senpai Audio line :)
Recently found out about their free mixer software. Definitely a game change for anyone without something similar. No purchase required.
Hello! thanks for the informative video.
I did just buy their mic, the normal one not the pro. It's working well for me, but Idk if i actually love it. the mute on it is awesome, i mean how easy it is and the way I can tell if it's muted or not. but like you said, the dial thing is a turn off for sure. I would love to hear from you about a recommendation about the same price, something not like the yeti that picks all sounds, even the dishes in the kitchen. But in the same time has great voice clarity, and good noise cancelation. While at it, could you please recommend a good app for the mic?
Man your videos are so good, like damn, so good man
Try moving your monitor out of the frame for the wide shots when you’re talking to the camera. It’s a little dustracting
i got a mic ad on this video and Im usually not even interested in stuff about mics this vid just came up on my recommended. Scary.
Ik the blue yeti for a long time was advertised as THE microphone to have for youtube but those times have been over for ages now so idk what that comparison means
yeah my interface has all the knobs on top and I have it placed well out of the way on the side of my desk :) Also it has not easily knocked buttons.
The Headphone Out monitoring volume is @ 12:15 on the lower left portion , you can fix the Monitoring there.
That being said, I have this mic (Alias Pro) and bought it expecting the 2 PC setup to be a solution for 2 stream PC ... it is a solution, just not a great one. Still debating to keep it but there is nothing like it at its price.
That Steelseries GG Sonar is almost perfect. I tried it out because of this video, and if I could use my own plugin's, it would be perfect. It's very user friendly, but the EQ is slightly limited for what I wanna do with it. I have a few effects on my vocal chain that I prefer over the effects available. Other than that, its stupidly good and if I had hardware-level effects over software, I would 100% use it over voicemeeter. I'd also probably use it over VM if it existed or I had known about it before using VM.
do you think they were talking about headset mics, only thing i can even think of..... any who, love your channel brother, big fan, keep passing on the info for us mere mortals.... and as always happy streaming lol
The software does have a gain, it’s on the front page where u can change the gain on the different softwares, you can control the mic with the dial or type in a %, personally I have mine at 75% with my razer serien x, trying to upgrade but I don’t know what to get
Get 'em, Harris!
tbf mics are expensive for me atm and I'm using my $10 miniso headphones but with Steelseries GG, every single friend has asked me where my mic is from and that i sound so clear. surprise it was all software. they really do be up in that side of the game
Hey ! i have a weird Question maybe the community or you can help me. Im using a Shure SM7B + GOXLR and a Rode Microphone im looking for a different microphone arm thats a bit more flexible than the idk Rode PSA1?
I actually love the software but I have a bunch of friends who hate it, i don’t stream much but I absolutely love the versatility of the software.
I got a pair of 5xx’s with a tonir tc40 mic so I didn’t have a good software to control everything but this helped a lot with clean up the mic quality on discord and it’s nice having presets for music and games. Just my 2 cents
So... what is the mic you are using to record this video [the one you're not reviewing in this video]? It sounds fantastic!
How would the Steelseries software hold up w/ the GoXLR? Would I want to use the Alias Pro with the GoXLR or the DAC that comes with it? And if I were to use both (via the headphone monitor jack), would I need a dongle to remove the background noise or something?
Never really got into standalone mics but I can say from my experience with 3-4 of their "gaming headsets" they almost always have an issue with the mic/software, to the point people are hearing my voice twice or their voices are echoing etc. that's part of the reason I stopped buying their products. I've been a bit more cautious about what I buy bc of them and some of the razer headsets I tried out. So I typically just wait for an audiophile to review something and decide from multiple reviews
In the Steelseries GG Software, dial gain by going to the Mixer tab (you were on Mic tab 5:40)
Chat/Game volume knob on the mic doesn't make sense (7:00) except maybe for content creation, but not everyone who wants a good mic is a content creator. Their line of headsets already has that. Gain volume makes sense on a mic. You can quickly adjust volume if someone says you're too loud.
I can't defend their advertising though.
pretty sure windows does sound app separation now so even if u dont want sonar u can still do it
Personaly I went with a Podcast Pro from Sontronics, a great budget friendly dynamic supercardioid, my only qualm with it is it doesnt have a native shock mount.
I still love the elgato wave 3 ever since you made the a review video about it. Plus they are relatively cheaper, sound well, and a somewhat a good software.
for engagement, so fascinated how harris heller came soo far, in 2018 i used to watch all of his vids that time i was streaming but now days i am busy in my higher studies, always been a fan of your. love from india :3
I miss my previous gen Arctis Nova 7 headset, I had to replace it with a Nova 7X and it no longer has the hardware chat/game mix. The hardware just controls the Sonar software which bugs out now and then. Also I can't turn it on for a few seconds after unplugging it and now and then it wont connect at all. Never had any problem with the old one. Just keep making that one.
power adapter, get a USBC to barrel converter, and you should have USBC charging hub already if you are remotely interested in setup like this.
what a bang on review, love the quality and informative content.
3:51 why haven’t you done a review on the ProCast yet?? it’s the mic i got and there aren’t many reviews out there, i’d love to see your take on it
Great video as always Harris! I was extremely indecisive about how to upgrade my audio setup. I was using the OG Blue Yeti for years. I ended up with the Scarlett 2i2 and the Audio Technica AT2040. It's been a major improvement over the Yeti! However I have to crank the gain to get a good signal out of it, so I'm in the market for a good (and inexpensive) pre amp... Any suggestions??
Assuming you got the XLR version and not the less impressive USB versions, get a DBX-286s. Phantom power, pre-amp, and a whole bunch of other stuff and it makes the mics sound golden.
@@OldManBadly yes it's the XLR version! Thanks for the reply, I'll check it out
Have the beacn mic and Beacn mix create. Havnt used the Beacn mic ad I am still using the a head set mic which is way smaller yet sounds great. Or so I am told by people watching the stream.
I would say a better sensitivity at low frequencies is a quality. If you have noise in low frequencies the it can be filtered
Ive always found the software to be really wonky even with my steel series artis pro wireless being pretty old at the point. The noise cancelling seems to do nothing as my friends can still occasionally hear stuff happening in the background.
now....
i'm waiting some Producer or Audio engineer who love experiment something to test this on several conditions like Overhead, room mic, Acoustic Mic-ing and Amp Mic-ing to decide it's worthy or just worthy for podcast and voice over something
How do you think this stacks up to the wave 3? Which would you recommend a person to buy?