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I tested hacked NES/SNES Classic, Genesis Mini, and RetroPis with my Airs last month and unfortunately they do not work. I wonder if upscalers like the mClassic will upscale 720p to 1080p and force it to work. MLP, don't you have an mClassic you can try?
I'll wait for second generation or third when they are bluetooth or wifi compatible don't require hdmi cables but has the option and when you can use any resolution under 1080p and the screen will simply stretch it to the aspect ratio of the glasses which should have been on launch a function of the glasses to support any resolution under 1080p
Dude, I have had my NReal Air for about two weeks now and I really love them! The perfect scenario is pairing these with the Steam Deck on a long flight. It's unfortunate about the Pixel devices. Google hasn't supported video out over the USB-C since Pixel 4. Seems they want to do everything over Chrome cast. I couldn't get it to work with devices like the Terra Onion SHDS3 Pro. I think the problem lies within the adapter. I believe the scaling of the 720p signal would have to be handled within the adapter and maybe it doesn't have the processing or battery power to do that. I also noticed the beta Mac software seemed to overwrite the firmware updates and it would put it out of sync with the app and adapter and I would have to go back and update the firmware AGAIN to get it working after using those beta apps.
@@extremawesomazing yeah you can use it while walking. though it would depends what your watching. for example might be fine to read the news but RUclips might be too distracting
Would be really cool if they released bezels i believe is what they called, those wallpapers on classic games. Or rooms that you can choose to play in, cool product but the price tag wow
Was curious until you said it doesn't support other resolutions... Hard pass for over $300. Would be cool to have a HUD for driving or biking and such though
if it does 1080p it should work with the adapter (without he need for a capture card) you will want a USB-C extension cord though, and it needs a very specific type. I would check the reddit community before making a purchase as they comment on what is know to work.
Hi, the glass can provide 1080P and 130inches virtual screen for you by connecting with Nreal Adaptor to your gaming consoles, you don't need a capture card in this use case.
Thanks for the info on the 720p because a number of popular devices are at this res. including all Analogue as well as the mini console you mentioned along with the rest of the mini consoles. No one else reviewing them even looked into this. I hope nReal can update to fix this.
Glad you covered this. I've only seen shills cover these and people whose opinion I take with a grain of salt. So glad to get an honest review, guess this means no Analogue Pocket being attached and living that 80s dream?
nope. That was the 2nd thing I tried. I just got my analogue pocket the day before this guy showed up so it was like X-mas around here. Analogue pocket didnt even blink to acknowledge a device had been plugged in. Bummer. I hope for a firmware update that would allow different resolutions but I'm not going to hold my breath on a chinese company supporting their product
@@Sinn0100 he said he wanted try to walk around with a mini console and battery pack and play games portabley but it didnt work with 720p well the analogue super nt and mega sg output 1080p and could be powered off a battery pack via usb
Apple is gonna come out with a “perfected” version for $699 only difference is it’ll be able to mirror apple products and need adapters on adapters after adapting the adaptor back to an adapter to get another product other than apple to work. 😂
So are they a static image in front of you or can you actually use them for 3D? VR games off your PC? Or does it just like do a static screen in front of you at all times? Does it have head tracking?
I tried a different adapter to the chain and it didnt work, but maybe the mclassic will do the trick. I havent used mine in ages and couldnt find it lol, so wasnt able to test though.
These actually look quite cool but I dont know if I could find enough use to justify the price. Great review though. Did you try watching and video content other than youtube? Video files on the phone for example and what was it like?
Hi, if the raspberry pi does have USB-C port which supports DP output, then you can try to connect it with our glass for viewing, but I have to tell you that we don't test RPie internally.
When you plug in the glasses to a Steam Deck it turns the screen off and the Tiny OLEDs in the glasses draw less power. Steam Deck is the main use case as you get a portable 130 inch screen with a lower battery draw ... At home on a console is questionable and personally I'd not buy these for that. Seems to be some confusion as some people appear think these are VR .. they are not. So overall if you have a Steam Deck and travel these things do make sense.
They should make a separate version just for gaming and make them more like sport glasses, frames, or visors that are really snug. Built with its own battery, wifi compatibility, and smart casting. No camera or other things that it doesn't need. Price should be reduced since it's only the gaming edition and not luxury edition. You can pay for add-ons and attachments.
i had gotten an email asking if i wanted to pre order them. i didn't take them up on it. they are going to working with lens crafters to get prescription lens in them at a later date
watching you looking through the glasses reminds me of that HBO show eastbound and out "...Nobody wants to sit on a couch wearing glasses poppin' bubbles out of the air like some sort of fucked up Ray Charles..." - Kenny Powers
Bought them today. The screen color/clarity looks nice but the issues its giving me just trying to launch games on my W11 Steam Deck is the reason I'm returning them. Either a game wont launch or it launches in windowed and not full screen anymore and I lose controller control. As for 120" in your face...looks more like a 65-75" TV from 6-8ft. back.
it would be good if they can bring out vr headset plug it into your console through the hdmi port to the headset through the the mini hdmi port as long the cable is long enough how cool would that be and use the controller to move about.
I currently do this same exact thing but with my quest 2, connected to either my pc or serise x....can't lie it's dope playing on a theater sized screen but the stream from the Xbox app isn't As clear as a direct hdmi connection. I use an app called usb camera to hard wire my Xbox sometimes but the quest doesn't have Google permissions to u can't use the pro app...
@@katonewman3504 side load usb camera app to the quest 2, plug usb-c to hdmi capture device to quest 2, plug xbox series, ps5 or other hdmi source into capture devices hdmi input ...load usb camera app from unknown sources and bobs your auntie... it's not the hard but not having access to actual Google store permissions stops me from using the pro version of the app with out the ad banner which would be distracting in game play.
@@katonewman3504 or side load xbox app to quest2 and cloud stream your xbox to your headset while in the same room so u won't need to sync a xbox controller to the quest 2....the visual quality in a bit poor if u want to use a large screen but it cool to see
Your lower resolution problem of Genesis mini through HDMI and a battery and a splitter... That's a bit much. I used mine at 720 on the Steam Deck just fine.
Its not just the Genesis Mini, it was any device I tried to use that was standard to 720p. Im not sure about a splitter, I never used any kind of splitter for any testing. I used the nreal adapter which provides power to the glasses when using other devices. I spoke to Nreal about native 720p devices and this was aknowledged that they dont work.
2:11 oh man, that frame rate looks awful lol I don't know much about VR (or I guess AR in this case) but I've heard to help with motion sickness, you really want that frame rate to be silky smooth... so that's something they should really address. Its a cool idea though
Hey Sean, it's a common issue when attempting to record Nreal Airs screen. We're working on it, and we've implemented out own screen recording feature. As for motion sickness, Nreal Air is certified Flicker Free!
Do they have lag? I have been messing around with MiSTer and they seem pretty fast to me. Next time I get home I’m going to have to figure out a way to lag test them against my CRT with MiSTer. MLP, did you feel like they were laggy?
Im glad you made this video because I just got these this week and I was left with more questions than answers. I'm also on the fence about them. On one hand, they're freaking sweet but on the other the chinese-ness of it all really hits. So far I've used them with my Galaxy Fold 4 and it automatically went into Samsung DEX mode. It's like staring at a giant computer monitor but thats what made it feel so unintuitive. I turned off DEX and then it went to my phone but it def didnt look like the promised 201 inches for android phones. I unno, I have to play with it more.
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Its cool for the Steam Deck for sure... but I cant tell you if its worth it for you... I mean if you bought them and got tons of use out of them maybe it would be worth it for you.
they suck! I got mines last week and i get glare on the top of the glasses and also i can see the out edge of the glasses on the left and right side. Is so freaking annoying! I watch in my room where is pitch black and i even wear the black cover and clean the lens with a microfiber cloth and I am still seeing all that glare. Unless I got defective unit! I can't believe no one is talking about the glare when watching movies on this thing!! I'm about to return it!
neat idea, but the price point is way above my budget. Shame, I even use a oneplus 9 phone ha. (of course if santa ron wanted to gift his review one to a random follower.... just kidding haha) Wonder if Plex would work with it on my phone...
Honestly this tech feels really old. The screen moves with your head, theres no hand tracking, theres no 360 movement. This is a huge step back just to gain a little mobility. I really wouldn't call this an AR device. I would call it a portable screen at best. I would rather settle for the new quest pro and I'm not buying that either.
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Ok how about connecting the “M upscale adapter” then plugging a classic mini into the glasses?
I have the glasses and think they’re pretty cool.
I tested hacked NES/SNES Classic, Genesis Mini, and RetroPis with my Airs last month and unfortunately they do not work. I wonder if upscalers like the mClassic will upscale 720p to 1080p and force it to work. MLP, don't you have an mClassic you can try?
@@RedHorseAdventures have you tried it yet? I'm waiting for my mclassic
@@sdmods619 I don’t have one, but it was the only idea I had to bring the output to something that could be displayed. I think it would likely work.
@@RedHorseAdventures I just purchased some M classics I will let you know
I respect your reviews no bs just straight up honesty.
Glad you reviewed these! Been intrigued for a while. You look hilarious though dude, just needed a white stick and a guide dog to complete the set 😂
I'll wait for second generation or third when they are bluetooth or wifi compatible don't require hdmi cables but has the option and when you can use any resolution under 1080p and the screen will simply stretch it to the aspect ratio of the glasses which should have been on launch a function of the glasses to support any resolution under 1080p
I wanted to do exactly what you're talking about with retro-gaming on the go. What about using a Pi? I'd like to get steps in, you know?
Totally getting these for my drive to work every morning. Just need to remember to take them off as I go through the toll booths....
2:10 ngl you look like a blind person feeling around for something 😂😂😂
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Man the price is always the dealbreaker
We were told not to sit too close to the tv when playing video games and now we are putting screens right on top of our eyes. The future of tomorrow.
People thought sitting too close would make you blind but, the truth is if you don’t blink often your iris get dry and that’s what causes blindness
When I was kid I was told santa was real 🤷
@@funktionalitee who says he's not. Don't let adults tell you to grow up.
@The Mexican Wolverine 😂 touchè sir.
@The Mexican Wolverine I bet you think your face will stick if you pull faces in the wind or wet the bed if you pick daffodils
Could try a M-Cable and see if it upscales the 720p to 1080p?
Hi, the resolution depends on the video source, the glass cannot upscales the resolution if the source is 720P.
@@XREAl_Tech_SupportCould we use an upscaler device that takes low resolutions and upscales it to 1080p and out puts through hdmi ?
You can always use the Switch Online games with a wireless SNES controller or something and play while walking around.
I would happily look like a fool walking down the street playing my retro games with these glasses 😁🙏🏽👍🏾
Nreal Air is pretty subtle, so you'll be able to game incognito 😎
Do these work for the pr0n? Asking for a friend.
coughYEScough
What if you used an mClassic upscaler? Bump up that 720 to 1080!
Dude, I have had my NReal Air for about two weeks now and I really love them! The perfect scenario is pairing these with the Steam Deck on a long flight. It's unfortunate about the Pixel devices. Google hasn't supported video out over the USB-C since Pixel 4. Seems they want to do everything over Chrome cast. I couldn't get it to work with devices like the Terra Onion SHDS3 Pro. I think the problem lies within the adapter. I believe the scaling of the 720p signal would have to be handled within the adapter and maybe it doesn't have the processing or battery power to do that. I also noticed the beta Mac software seemed to overwrite the firmware updates and it would put it out of sync with the app and adapter and I would have to go back and update the firmware AGAIN to get it working after using those beta apps.
Have you been able to make it with other consoles than the switch? I’ve tried everything 🥺
@@alxqrz Hey! We've just expanded our console compatibility, alongside Steam Deck 😎
Have you tried playing on the move? I'm thinking like at a park while getting steps in.
@@extremawesomazing yeah you can use it while walking. though it would depends what your watching. for example might be fine to read the news but RUclips might be too distracting
Are they good for PC gaming?
I remember I saw something similar to this in early 2000s.
the idea is not new but this seems to be optimized for modern gaming
Would be really cool if they released bezels i believe is what they called, those wallpapers on classic games. Or rooms that you can choose to play in, cool product but the price tag wow
Some really interesting suggestions! Thanks for the feedback 😎
Thanks.
Cool dude with those shades!
Was curious until you said it doesn't support other resolutions... Hard pass for over $300. Would be cool to have a HUD for driving or biking and such though
Can you make tutorial how to connect the glasses to console then to your PC then stream your gameplay to youtube please
What about comparability with other gaming HDMI devices, like PS3, PS5 without the use of capture cards, Xbox 360?
if it does 1080p it should work with the adapter (without he need for a capture card) you will want a USB-C extension cord though, and it needs a very specific type. I would check the reddit community before making a purchase as they comment on what is know to work.
Hi, the glass can provide 1080P and 130inches virtual screen for you by connecting with Nreal Adaptor to your gaming consoles, you don't need a capture card in this use case.
@@XREAl_Tech_Support have you tried it with a PS5 and PS3? I want to know actual results?
Probably worth getting for the novelty.
Thanks for the info on the 720p because a number of popular devices are at this res. including all Analogue as well as the mini console you mentioned along with the rest of the mini consoles. No one else reviewing them even looked into this. I hope nReal can update to fix this.
They do work with Analogue Super NT
@@alxqrz Then why don't they work with the aforementioned Mini's?
Wish I can revue i think this going to take over the tv set for real
Glad you covered this. I've only seen shills cover these and people whose opinion I take with a grain of salt.
So glad to get an honest review, guess this means no Analogue Pocket being attached and living that 80s dream?
nope. That was the 2nd thing I tried. I just got my analogue pocket the day before this guy showed up so it was like X-mas around here. Analogue pocket didnt even blink to acknowledge a device had been plugged in. Bummer. I hope for a firmware update that would allow different resolutions but I'm not going to hold my breath on a chinese company supporting their product
Mine arrives tomorrow. Already got my switch dock and ac power bank fitted perfectly in my camera bag ready for the go with these.
one year later: would recommend these?
The title card for this video is amazing🤣got me lmaoing before I even watched the video
I wonder if they will work for Wii U
You could try using one of analogues consoles in place of one of the mini systems to play ot as a portable
Why?
doesn't work. steam deck is the best option.
@@Sinn0100 he said he wanted try to walk around with a mini console and battery pack and play games portabley but it didnt work with 720p well the analogue super nt and mega sg output 1080p and could be powered off a battery pack via usb
@@NoshAbroad why would it not work
Raspberry pi would still work with your battery idea. It should be able to produce 1080p upscale on most low-end consoles just fine?
Apple is gonna come out with a “perfected” version for $699 only difference is it’ll be able to mirror apple products and need adapters on adapters after adapting the adaptor back to an adapter to get another product other than apple to work. 😂
And everything sold separately, especially the lens and frames from apple
Issue in the UK is that the company that sells then don't even know its on their inventory. Then they don't know the system how to order them.
So are they a static image in front of you or can you actually use them for 3D? VR games off your PC? Or does it just like do a static screen in front of you at all times? Does it have head tracking?
About your dream, thought about adding an mclassic upscaler in your pocket?
I tried a different adapter to the chain and it didnt work, but maybe the mclassic will do the trick. I havent used mine in ages and couldnt find it lol, so wasnt able to test though.
@@Madlittlepixel Yup, should do the trick since it only outputs 1080p. And the fact that it is USB powered it perfect for your cakewalk project :)
These actually look quite cool but I dont know if I could find enough use to justify the price. Great review though.
Did you try watching and video content other than youtube? Video files on the phone for example and what was it like?
Hmm could this be paired with a RPie and a portable Battery or does the 720P issue screw that up?
It works with a raspberry pi at 1080p
Hmm so peacefully Gaming on the couch while the wife Watches Reality TV might just be possible
Hi, if the raspberry pi does have USB-C port which supports DP output, then you can try to connect it with our glass for viewing, but I have to tell you that we don't test RPie internally.
Thanks for the information
The Analogue Pocket can output 1080p... Good luck.
Can you put your ps4 on your back pack and use your glasses as a screen to play
When you plug in the glasses to a Steam Deck it turns the screen off and the Tiny OLEDs in the glasses draw less power.
Steam Deck is the main use case as you get a portable 130 inch screen with a lower battery draw ... At home on a console is questionable and personally I'd not buy these for that.
Seems to be some confusion as some people appear think these are VR .. they are not.
So overall if you have a Steam Deck and travel these things do make sense.
100% this
They should make a separate version just for gaming and make them more like sport glasses, frames, or visors that are really snug. Built with its own battery, wifi compatibility, and smart casting. No camera or other things that it doesn't need. Price should be reduced since it's only the gaming edition and not luxury edition. You can pay for add-ons and attachments.
Who is "they"? And why not you?
i had gotten an email asking if i wanted to pre order them. i didn't take them up on it. they are going to working with lens crafters to get prescription lens in them at a later date
Hey there! Our AR Glasses come with a prescription lens insert in the box that can be adjusted to fit your prescription at an optometrist or online!
um retroarch on the android phone would work... also would work with a controller.
If you come up with the idea of the portable battery it would help so I can copy it from you !
Check out viture one. They have a mobile dock for switch to make that easy on the go, plus more. No head tracking though.
watching you looking through the glasses reminds me of that HBO show eastbound and out "...Nobody wants to sit on a couch wearing glasses poppin' bubbles out of the air like some sort of fucked up Ray Charles..." - Kenny Powers
"Oh you like 3D? Well heres a burrito coming rite at you!" lol I loved the hell out of that show.
Finally a mention of prescription lenses
Make them for movies make the screen 4k with OLED screens they will sell great.
Bought them today. The screen color/clarity looks nice but the issues its giving me just trying to launch games on my W11 Steam Deck is the reason I'm returning them. Either a game wont launch or it launches in windowed and not full screen anymore and I lose controller control. As for 120" in your face...looks more like a 65-75" TV from 6-8ft. back.
Try it with a retrotink 5x
it would be good if they can bring out vr headset plug it into your console through the hdmi port to the headset through the the mini hdmi port as long the cable is long enough how cool would that be and use the controller to move about.
Those glases look pretty good, but I saving My Money for the Ps5 Vr2, I getting It with Resident evil, and Horizon
I currently do this same exact thing but with my quest 2, connected to either my pc or serise x....can't lie it's dope playing on a theater sized screen but the stream from the Xbox app isn't As clear as a direct hdmi connection. I use an app called usb camera to hard wire my Xbox sometimes but the quest doesn't have Google permissions to u can't use the pro app...
How do you connect your Xbox to your oculus?
@@katonewman3504 side load usb camera app to the quest 2, plug usb-c to hdmi capture device to quest 2, plug xbox series, ps5 or other hdmi source into capture devices hdmi input ...load usb camera app from unknown sources and bobs your auntie... it's not the hard but not having access to actual Google store permissions stops me from using the pro version of the app with out the ad banner which would be distracting in game play.
@@katonewman3504 or side load xbox app to quest2 and cloud stream your xbox to your headset while in the same room so u won't need to sync a xbox controller to the quest 2....the visual quality in a bit poor if u want to use a large screen but it cool to see
Pixels don't support video out thru usb c . I wanted these but have a pixel 6a.
Your lower resolution problem of Genesis mini through HDMI and a battery and a splitter... That's a bit much. I used mine at 720 on the Steam Deck just fine.
Its not just the Genesis Mini, it was any device I tried to use that was standard to 720p. Im not sure about a splitter, I never used any kind of splitter for any testing. I used the nreal adapter which provides power to the glasses when using other devices. I spoke to Nreal about native 720p devices and this was aknowledged that they dont work.
is each eye 540p? easier to split 1080p to each eye than 720p.
2:11 oh man, that frame rate looks awful lol I don't know much about VR (or I guess AR in this case) but I've heard to help with motion sickness, you really want that frame rate to be silky smooth... so that's something they should really address. Its a cool idea though
From the reviews I've seen, that low framerate appears to be exclusive to the recording software and is silky smooth for the user.
@@AbyssionQC ahh ok well that's good
Hey Sean, it's a common issue when attempting to record Nreal Airs screen. We're working on it, and we've implemented out own screen recording feature. As for motion sickness, Nreal Air is certified Flicker Free!
@@XREAL_Global Oh, hello... I wasn't expecting a reply from the devs lol it's nice to hear you will keep iterating on the glasses, best of luck!
@@SeanDS89 Thank you!
“tHeY hAvE LaG” 🥴🤣
Do they have lag? I have been messing around with MiSTer and they seem pretty fast to me. Next time I get home I’m going to have to figure out a way to lag test them against my CRT with MiSTer. MLP, did you feel like they were laggy?
@@K98430 No they arent laggy, its just like using your own tv or monitor.
Mine lasted about a week before they failed.
Failed like how?
@@mogberry2139...... The screens wouldn't stay on for more than 2 minutes.
And now there's not a kick out of them at all.
I'll wait a few years to grab one
My glasses don’t work with my Xbox at all
How bad are these on your eyes?
This one is going around I’m gonna give a hard pass to these glasses, I would like to have the steam deck next year though 🎮
Why not this year or right now? I have a Steam Deck and it is amazing.
Im glad you made this video because I just got these this week and I was left with more questions than answers. I'm also on the fence about them. On one hand, they're freaking sweet but on the other the chinese-ness of it all really hits. So far I've used them with my Galaxy Fold 4 and it automatically went into Samsung DEX mode. It's like staring at a giant computer monitor but thats what made it feel so unintuitive. I turned off DEX and then it went to my phone but it def didnt look like the promised 201 inches for android phones.
I unno, I have to play with it more.
Hey! First of all, we LOVE hearing about our users experiences. From the good, the bad and everything in between, it's the feedback that will help make what we do better. As for the specific issue, we have our Nreal Assistant available on Reddit and Twitter, feel free to hit them up! We also have an incredible Dev community on Reddit and Discord that's filled with great discussions on how to get the most out of your Nreal Air 😎
@@XREAL_Global Let me get a review copy lol
People say the price is too high but would rather but a 75” TV that sits in one spot and you can’t travel with. This generation is spoiled 😅
Here Im saving for a new phone n you just get one sent to you for free 😄
You look so funny with those on
I thought about getting one of these for the steam deck. What are your thoughts? Is it worth the $400?
Its cool for the Steam Deck for sure... but I cant tell you if its worth it for you... I mean if you bought them and got tons of use out of them maybe it would be worth it for you.
That price tag at 1080p, lag, ghosting...maybe next generation.
they suck! I got mines last week and i get glare on the top of the glasses and also i can see the out edge of the glasses on the left and right side.
Is so freaking annoying! I watch in my room where is pitch black and i even wear the black cover and clean the lens with a microfiber cloth and I am still seeing all that glare.
Unless I got defective unit! I can't believe no one is talking about the glare when watching movies on this thing!! I'm about to return it!
Wdym with glare? Genuinely curious since I want to buy them
I can watch 2 movies on these with my samsung galaxy s10 which isn't bad at all.
I’m on the porcelain pot, can anyone spare a square?
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$25 per square ....
Not worth it for me at 1080 p and my phone not working with it just for video games I will still use my old school avegant glyph at 720p.
It is only good on watching movies at the bed at night
forget snes classic... this is perfect for the sega mega jet :D if only that works...
neat idea, but the price point is way above my budget. Shame, I even use a oneplus 9 phone ha. (of course if santa ron wanted to gift his review one to a random follower.... just kidding haha) Wonder if Plex would work with it on my phone...
How do you expect to walk down the street with those on and see where you're going? No offense. I do find your videos informative.
👍👍
Honestly this tech feels really old. The screen moves with your head, theres no hand tracking, theres no 360 movement. This is a huge step back just to gain a little mobility. I really wouldn't call this an AR device. I would call it a portable screen at best. I would rather settle for the new quest pro and I'm not buying that either.
How about can it direct to ps5 to hdmi adapter to glasses?
It makes you look like youre playing blind. Pretty funny really.
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DOOD!
450$+ (shipping and taxes) …….wow. As cool as they seem and your video shows. It’s a no for me. Great job.
Why do you sound whiny?
Uhhhh, buy a PSVR instead.
Add a mClassic to that dream and let's see that fool walk @madlittlepixel
Doesn't work on xbox series x