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I don't think they are lying but legally just in case something with one of the old games doesn't compute with the new system it would be very smart to have a way to not get sued
Well there's stuff like labo and ring fit that won't be (though maybe you can hook up old joycons?) But they said the same thing about "not all games will be compatible" with PS5 and Xbox Series XS and everyone got super worked up about it and in the end it's like a dozen games that don't work
Blows me away that there's still no sensor bar for Switch & Switch's 2 Gyro motion, at least by the looks of things, for motion pointer based aiming. How in the heck am I supposed to play the upcoming House fo the dead 2 Remake without a reference. The Wii remote/plus still reigns supreme. House of the Dead 2&3 Return(Wii) worked flawlessly with the wii remote. With the joy-con, your cross hair will drift, and you'll find yourself pointing in a different direction compared to where the on-screen cross hair is, which forces the player to press a realignment button to recenter it. That's the definition of Broken, and backwards-thinking. VR is the only way to get amazing and reliable motion controls these days.
@@JayrosModShopA mouse won't work in handheld mode and will be clunky on a couch. Not investing in a better pointer solution that always works would be a dumb move.
@@NintenPizzaThey probably could have pointer functionality using a tiny passive bit of plastic with a pattern a little joycon camera could recognize, and using either that or gyros, a very mouse-like setup could be achieved using capacitive triggers that make resetting position effortless like lifting a mouse from its pad. It would be a major waste if Nintendo's control innovation this gen ignores improving pointing methods that actually work well for handheld and couch play.
My biggest worry that this will be a repeat of the Wii U. This new system looks exactly like the first switch. I imagine everyone whom owns a og switch would look at that and say "I don't need that, I already have one".
So that asterisk, where have I seen this before? Oh wait, that's pretty much every single backwards compatible console ever. Playstation guys who were there since the PS1 days will tell you that we're usually talking about less than 1% when it comes to incompatible games. I think from PS4 to PS5 it was like 10 games or something, most of them pretty obscure. X-Box 360 to X-Box One was abit of an outlier because X-Box One was not natively backwards compatible. They added games individually so that percentage was much higher. My advice to Nintendo fans is to chill out. It will probably be less than 1% for the Switch 2 aswell, like for all of the other consoles that came out in the last 25 years.
exactly...im convinced that ppl just by the same crap no matter what...gaming is so dead...this is the switch with slightly better hardware...this is a joke...
I noticed the way the joy cons plugged in like that too and my mind immediately went to the same place yours did. Mine is 90% played in Dock mode with a Pro controller, my original joy cons are on there from 7 years ago and they are still mint. So personally, it’s likely a non issue for me myself.
I'm personally not remotely concerned. They have to put that there because this will no way be compatible with labo games, for example. The joycon are a different size and shape. That also means ring for adventure will also likely not be compatible. Probably some mini games on 1 2 switch won't be fully compatible. In all liklihood, they won't be things that most people care about.
Absolutely right to point the backwards compatibility concern out. But to add to this, I have another concern which is, if I use my existing Nintendo account on the new switch, do I then lose the ability to play all my digital games natively on my old switch !?? Even worse still if they don’t work on the switch2. I may end up having to just create a new account for it which I didn’t want to do.
If the Switch 2 joy cons (one or both) do not have the Infrared IR motion camera, then Switch games that support that will be those that aren’t fully compatible.. probably. I would guess that the vast majority of Switch games will work fine on the Switch 2, with only a small handful either not working or not fully working on it. I would guess this is what they are referring to.
the joycon buttons and analogs should be at each end of the joycon so it's more like a proper controller when turned sideways. They still look awkward to hold with a stick in the centre
The issue with Nintendo is that they want to resell the old switch games to the new Nintendo Switch games at a $60 price. That's what they're gonna do and the reason I think like this is because they probably don't have a lot of games ready for the Nintendo switch 2
Totally random thing happened to me today. I went to my local target in Grand Rapids Michigan. And the local Nintendo rep was there cleaning up the display. She told me she has a really good feeling that the console should launch by the end of April. Take that for what it’s worth
Haha I’m from GR too and it’s freezing haha. I really think she has the dates confused. This console needs waaay more promotion. I do think it’s a guaranteed Christmas 2025 hit. But I don’t work for Nintendo. Maybe she’s right.
@ she was very insistent. Said she had worked through the last couple console launches from Nintendo. I suggested June and she said no I’m thinking more like end of April.
I live in the UK so I will say 2026 haha. N64 was a hard time for us in the UK March 1997 release for a huge amount £250! Hopefully those days are over.
@ I asked that and she said no, preorders will go up once they have a SKU and price point which she hadn’t heard yet. Told me she wouldn’t be surprised if preorders went up in February. Again, take this all for what it’s worth
If they're having those hands on events throughout April then odds are it will release in late june or july. as that will give them enough time to address whatever concerns fans will have from those events in April and they definitely want to be ahead of any major releases in September/oct.
Seems indeed obvious that this is calling for an “improved version” sooner or later. Even the kickstand is a downgrade from the original Switch OLED. I think I’ll wait too. This whole thing is somehow not what I would expect from Nintendo, starting with the name and the stupid and ugly logo. Something is weird about this, I don’t know 🤷♂️
@@christophmatthews4313 I’ll definitely buy it at a certain point but I’ll not jumping on it right away as there will probably be a ‘revision’ coming as we saw it with the original 👍
Now will it also be region free backwards compatible? Meaning if I have a Japanese copy of river city girls (example) for the Switch 1. Will it work on a North American Switch 2 system?
They have to opportunity to improve ergonomics and hopefully add full analogue sticks but nope. Stick drift, horrible quality control, and poor design, still carried from the switch 1. Hopefully the quality control is better but dammit, ergonomics still seem to be an issue and possibly stick drift
My guess? It's probably the IR sensor on the right JoyCon that might be the biggest issue. Maybe HD Rumble too since I don't recall anyone mentioning the HD Rumble carried over to the new Cons.
I remember it being insinuated that some games may not be, but it’s likely referring to the rare cases where the newer system will have conflicts and Nintendo can’t promise third parties will fix those games.
Magnetic JoyCons are NOT a strong sell to me. I could see some intense play sessions where the JoyCons could pop off SO easily. I’m not getting rid of my Lite, nor my OLED.
There's a reason why there's pins on the Switch 2 that connect the joycons. Those pins are there to lock the joycons in place when connected, the magnetic field are just there to keep it stable. Those joycons will have a release button that when press will release the pin from the hold and allow you to take the joycons out easily. Like Ron said as long as those pins don't break, it shouldn't be an issue.
@ I sincerely hope you’re right. The only thing I can see making it an issue is going portable and playing some fighting games. That can get a bit intense and I would like to think I wouldn’t break my shiny new system, or controllers. I love that this system is just more of the same with a power boost. It’s like GameBoy graduating to GameBoy Color. A little more power, but still showing the original the love it deserves. This could be great. Truly great!
I’m worried that Nintendo won’t be able to produce that many Switch 2s which will go straight to the scalpers only to be sold on eBay until like next year when they finally produce more consoles.
It's just really strong magnets, that release button. Button justin something that protrudes out of the controller that pushes it away enough to where the magnetism field isn't as strong so you can pull it off.
From something I was told about from a buddy of mine said the games that are not compatible at this time are the VR stuff and the labo stuff and the emulators at this time but he said about 99% of all switch games that have been released thus far are compatible
What? High demand and shortage of a Nintendo product? When has that ever happened? ☠️ Also, if that really was Mario Kart 9… I don’t know. Looked kinda rough.
I think they mean stuff like Labo, Ring Fit, and stuff that uses accessories designed with the original switch and joycons. I think because of it's size of both the tablet and joycons. Maybe like 1, 2 Switch might not work as well. They could release like a new version of ring fit or a sequel that has a new accessory for it that will allow you to play the original.
Don't worry about the compability till we get more news. Having still be able to use our cartridges is huge. I'm pretty sure most of the big first party games will work. It could be just something like they phased out amiibo compability and/or updated the motion controls, or IR featured that some games used now gone. The new console won't fit in LABO. Things like that.
I think what they mean about certain games not working is maybe like Labo where the console is bigger so it wont fit. Or maybe like Ring fit where it has parts where you put the joy cons in and these joy cons are bigger. Thats what I think I dont think its anything crazy.
i hope it is only a small amount that aren't compatible. my backlog is already huge as it is, the backwards compatibility is a pretty big deal for me. not just nintendo but i play mostly ps4 games on my ps5 as well. the controller alone is just better
My concern is the term choice. I read "not fully compatible" and think things with system based accessories, maybe the IR camera etc. so like the game would launch, but the switch 2 lacks features to make full use of some games, 1-2 Switch, Labo and so on. But then I read "Not be supported" and I wonder if there are some that just won't even launch. Like trying to use old pc software and getting that classic error message. My question is, is that the case, if so, why? Is it just legal protection speak? I'll be waiting to see when they finally say more because it's one of my questions too. It's not the first time we've seen it, but the devil is in the details and I want the details is all.
4:07 - Hopefully your concerns here end up being overblown. I mean offhand just thinking about it they might have to put that disclaimer in there for 2 reasons: A) the Nintendo Switch Labo kits they released and Ring Fit Adventure for example won't be compatible with Switch 2 due to different dimensions on the tablet and Joy-Cons, and B) maybe they can't guarantee that it will be backwards compatible with all third-party games.
Yeah but then if buy it you can't play two multiplayer out of the box. Also it's likely they may not even bundle the dock with the system this time. Steam Deck and ROG Ally doesn't so likely Switch 2 may not.
Hall effect? Yes they are, and be ready for the unexpected new joycon features!! Mostly excited to try them and see how they implement those in new games... Sounds exciting!!
Hall effect isn't really the silver bullet people think it is Just ask vita owners lol I've probably had to replace my vita's sticks 5 or 6 times over the years cause of drift
Labo and ring fit and maybe the IR camera. Things that maybe would be compatible using the old joy cons, like on the switch lite. I think every recent console that is retrocompatible had a similar disclaimer.
One concern I have is availability of microsd express cards that the system will reportedly use. At the moment, none are available on Amazon from what I see. Hopefully the backwards compatibility issue will be small, likely Labo will not be usable. If the game is a big seller and not compatible, they'll likely rerelease a switch 2 version
The Switch Lite it's also not backwards compatible with every game, like Labo or Ring Fit Adventure. Unless Nintendo says is more than that, I'm not concerned.
About the controller connection. That's exactly what I thought when I saw it. I was like....yeah that's so gonna break. My 13yo niece broke one of the rails on her right joycon. I'm sure she'll make short work of this new system. Honestly, im gonna be more excited to see what after market joy cons are coming. Id like to see an adapter to use my BinBok RGBs on the 2.
I'd bet 99% plus of the games are compatible. I'm more interested if the Switch 2 will improve performance of switch 1 games, like the latest Zelda, Pokemon, Mario and Luigi that had performance issues.
Maybe the incompatible games will be those that use the right Joy-Con's IR sensor. The Nintendo Labo titles also utilize the body of the original Switch console, and the Switch 2 may not fit into the Labo kits.
there are a handful of games not compatible with Switch Lite or Switch OLED as well. It's joycon related. I guess there could be more for reasons exclusive to the Switch 2 but the statement is true based on joycon changes alone. As for the joycon pin connector looking fragile, if it's recessed in the oval cutout in the tablet body then the joycon could only touch it if it's already properly lined up so it shouldn't be possible to damage it. Also it appears that both joycons can be used like a mouse.
I'm concerned any time we have an edge connector. It is too vulnerable to the environment. The lightning connector on the iPhone is always failing. I have to buy a new cable once or twice per year. The trailer feels underwhelming. So when is this coming? Apparently not for a while. Sometime between May and September. I am disappointed with the delay because I get the impression that Nintendo isn't competitive with other systems.
Bro this was no announcement, it was here is what everyone leaked, nothing to see here, just a shell and Mario Kart, this is NOT how you reveal a system. There was NO reveal. No Specs, No Games, No nothing.....
It was a reveal, not a showcase. What you describe was a showcase where they show the system and actually explain in detail what it could do. It's similar to what they did with the Switch when it first got reveal. Only thing difference was that with the Switch reveal Nintendo focus on it more cause the Wii U was a failure and they just want the Switch out asap. Here though the Switch is still selling like hotcakes so Nintendo is in no rush to quickly showcase the Switch 2. If anything the only thing Nintendo may give us for Switch 2 is more of what the Switch 1 already had, more accessibility, more powers, more storage, more rams, more expensive, and more games, that's all. Nintendo is taking the "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" route with the Switch 2.
Yeah I saw that at the end of the trailer and I was thinking hmm that's really weird, I don't see how some of the older games can't work on this system. Maybe it's like the ps4 games on the ps5 and there's only like a small handful of games that won't work
One would hope the joysticks are hall effect, but at the same time it's Nintendo. I wouldn't be surprised the sticks are unchanged and they put out a warning that they not responsible for wear and degradation, making you spend more money on their controllers.
Labo, Ring Fit, Labo VR, and likely that Mario Kart Live game may not be compatible on Switch 2. Maybe those cloud games are also not compatible which is cool since I never like cloud games anyways, never bought into them. Also what I learn from console launch of the past is that it's better to just wait until the second year to get one. There's likely nothing good coming out the first year and also the console may even had technical or software issues on the first year that usually got resolve on the second year anyways.
Labo for one will not be compatible. I dont think it will be a big deal. Thats probably there for the lawyers or else they would get sued by someone who writes a game that does some kind of check and intentionally doenst run on the Switch 2
Can I ask an honest question here? Aside from just the Nintendo die hards, was anyone ACTUALLY excited by this trailer? Because to me, this was quite honestly, the least interesting or impressive console announcement I have ever seen. And Ive been through all of them since the original NES.
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In today’s market, what do you think the price is going to be on the switch 2
I hope to god they don't go back to region locking and the non compatible games would be because of region.
Labo, Ring Fit, and stuff like that won't be compatible. Calm down
yep.
Yep that is my thought. Anything that relies on the original joycons.
Did the portable only Switch give that heads up?
I wonder if Ring Fit would still be compatible if you keep a set of Switch 1 joy-cons around
@@bebopbluekinda with games having symbols for the different modes of play they support. Handheld, tabletop, docked/tv.
Those two Labo enthusiasts will no doubt be devestated. 😂
Ring Fit?
If life has taught me anything, it's to NEVER get rid of your old console for a new one.
It’s stuff like Labo. Wow people are trying to blow this up when it’s not a thing.
People who talk in the third person about the person they're replying to are the worst.
Manufacturing drama where there is none.
My thoughts exactly. Doing it for the clicks!!
Bro loves to complain about anything
Yup, sadly because it's clicks. Like the news.
buttons instead of a directional pad and backwards compatibility are legit concerns.
These seem like legit concern to me.
I don't think they are lying but legally just in case something with one of the old games doesn't compute with the new system it would be very smart to have a way to not get sued
Well there's stuff like labo and ring fit that won't be (though maybe you can hook up old joycons?)
But they said the same thing about "not all games will be compatible" with PS5 and Xbox Series XS and everyone got super worked up about it and in the end it's like a dozen games that don't work
No IR sensor games, we will live.
Blows me away that there's still no sensor bar for Switch & Switch's 2 Gyro motion, at least by the looks of things, for motion pointer based aiming. How in the heck am I supposed to play the upcoming House fo the dead 2 Remake without a reference. The Wii remote/plus still reigns supreme. House of the Dead 2&3 Return(Wii) worked flawlessly with the wii remote.
With the joy-con, your cross hair will drift, and you'll find yourself pointing in a different direction compared to where the on-screen cross hair is, which forces the player to press a realignment button to recenter it. That's the definition of Broken, and backwards-thinking. VR is the only way to get amazing and reliable motion controls these days.
@@NintenPizza The new joy-cons act like a mouse, so that's how you'll aim and shoot.
@@JayrosModShop That's going to feel like a massive step backwards compared to aiming in VR with Quest 3 & PSVR2. :P
@@JayrosModShopA mouse won't work in handheld mode and will be clunky on a couch. Not investing in a better pointer solution that always works would be a dumb move.
@@NintenPizzaThey probably could have pointer functionality using a tiny passive bit of plastic with a pattern a little joycon camera could recognize, and using either that or gyros, a very mouse-like setup could be achieved using capacitive triggers that make resetting position effortless like lifting a mouse from its pad. It would be a major waste if Nintendo's control innovation this gen ignores improving pointing methods that actually work well for handheld and couch play.
Lol bro, they referring to niche games like Labo, which already doesn't work with the OLED and Lite. We'll be playing our libraries on Switch 2.
My biggest worry that this will be a repeat of the Wii U. This new system looks exactly like the first switch. I imagine everyone whom owns a og switch would look at that and say "I don't need that, I already have one".
So that asterisk, where have I seen this before? Oh wait, that's pretty much every single backwards compatible console ever. Playstation guys who were there since the PS1 days will tell you that we're usually talking about less than 1% when it comes to incompatible games. I think from PS4 to PS5 it was like 10 games or something, most of them pretty obscure. X-Box 360 to X-Box One was abit of an outlier because X-Box One was not natively backwards compatible. They added games individually so that percentage was much higher. My advice to Nintendo fans is to chill out. It will probably be less than 1% for the Switch 2 aswell, like for all of the other consoles that came out in the last 25 years.
Cool to see we still don't have a proper dpad on the Switch 2.
We will, give it time. Aftermarket shells and controllers will fix it... again.
No one cared for Labo. It flopped.
My theory is its stuff like labo and maybe a couple 3rd party games
This is the same console as the switch.
exactly...im convinced that ppl just by the same crap no matter what...gaming is so dead...this is the switch with slightly better hardware...this is a joke...
I noticed the way the joy cons plugged in like that too and my mind immediately went to the same place yours did. Mine is 90% played in Dock mode with a Pro controller, my original joy cons are on there from 7 years ago and they are still mint. So personally, it’s likely a non issue for me myself.
I'm personally not remotely concerned. They have to put that there because this will no way be compatible with labo games, for example. The joycon are a different size and shape. That also means ring for adventure will also likely not be compatible. Probably some mini games on 1 2 switch won't be fully compatible. In all liklihood, they won't be things that most people care about.
At least turning molehills into mountains begins with molehills, this doesn't even qualify as anthills.
Lack of IR camera, no big loss imo.
There's no IR sensor so 1,2 switch might not be fully compatible
Absolutely right to point the backwards compatibility concern out. But to add to this, I have another concern which is, if I use my existing Nintendo account on the new switch, do I then lose the ability to play all my digital games natively on my old switch !?? Even worse still if they don’t work on the switch2. I may end up having to just create a new account for it which I didn’t want to do.
If the Switch 2 joy cons (one or both) do not have the Infrared IR motion camera, then Switch games that support that will be those that aren’t fully compatible.. probably. I would guess that the vast majority of Switch games will work fine on the Switch 2, with only a small handful either not working or not fully working on it. I would guess this is what they are referring to.
They didn’t lie though, in that tweet they did last year they said the same thing.
Yup. They were up front about it.
How do those joycons attach? I have more faith in the slide on type than these
Magnets
Labo games not fullly compatible due to it's physical size
what i find more concerning is there is nothing shown or mentioned that switch 2 games will be on a cart
they’re definitely going to be on a cart. Japan is still a very physical media heavy country
the joycon buttons and analogs should be at each end of the joycon so it's more like a proper controller when turned sideways. They still look awkward to hold with a stick in the centre
The issue with Nintendo is that they want to resell the old switch games to the new Nintendo Switch games at a $60 price. That's what they're gonna do and the reason I think like this is because they probably don't have a lot of games ready for the Nintendo switch 2
Smart move on their part though.
Totally random thing happened to me today. I went to my local target in Grand Rapids Michigan. And the local Nintendo rep was there cleaning up the display. She told me she has a really good feeling that the console should launch by the end of April. Take that for what it’s worth
Haha I’m from GR too and it’s freezing haha. I really think she has the dates confused. This console needs waaay more promotion. I do think it’s a guaranteed Christmas 2025 hit. But I don’t work for Nintendo. Maybe she’s right.
@ she was very insistent. Said she had worked through the last couple console launches from Nintendo. I suggested June and she said no I’m thinking more like end of April.
I live in the UK so I will say 2026 haha. N64 was a hard time for us in the UK March 1997 release for a huge amount £250! Hopefully those days are over.
Am thinking preorders.
@ I asked that and she said no, preorders will go up once they have a SKU and price point which she hadn’t heard yet. Told me she wouldn’t be surprised if preorders went up in February. Again, take this all for what it’s worth
Dont worry yet. Ps5 isn't fully backwards compatible with ps4. But it plays most of them
If they're having those hands on events throughout April then odds are it will release in late june or july. as that will give them enough time to address whatever concerns fans will have from those events in April and they definitely want to be ahead of any major releases in September/oct.
Im not buying the Nintendo Switch 2 if the screen is not OLED. I'll wait 2-3 years
Seems indeed obvious that this is calling for an “improved version” sooner or later. Even the kickstand is a downgrade from the original Switch OLED. I think I’ll wait too.
This whole thing is somehow not what I would expect from Nintendo, starting with the name and the stupid and ugly logo. Something is weird about this, I don’t know 🤷♂️
@@MaI2Methen don’t buy it.
@@christophmatthews4313 I’ll definitely buy it at a certain point but I’ll not jumping on it right away as there will probably be a ‘revision’ coming as we saw it with the original 👍
They should have announced it in October regardless of whatever internal delays they had.
Major concerns?, get a grip dude.
Now will it also be region free backwards compatible? Meaning if I have a Japanese copy of river city girls (example) for the Switch 1. Will it work on a North American Switch 2 system?
Yes cause your accounts on the Switch 1 will transfer to Switch 2 easily.
They have to opportunity to improve ergonomics and hopefully add full analogue sticks but nope. Stick drift, horrible quality control, and poor design, still carried from the switch 1. Hopefully the quality control is better but dammit, ergonomics still seem to be an issue and possibly stick drift
My guess? It's probably the IR sensor on the right JoyCon that might be the biggest issue.
Maybe HD Rumble too since I don't recall anyone mentioning the HD Rumble carried over to the new Cons.
I remember it being insinuated that some games may not be, but it’s likely referring to the rare cases where the newer system will have conflicts and Nintendo can’t promise third parties will fix those games.
my hope is that incompatibilities are just because Nintendo Switch 2 do not have IR sensor and Switch 1 do.
Magnetic JoyCons are NOT a strong sell to me. I could see some intense play sessions where the JoyCons could pop off SO easily.
I’m not getting rid of my Lite, nor my OLED.
There's a reason why there's pins on the Switch 2 that connect the joycons. Those pins are there to lock the joycons in place when connected, the magnetic field are just there to keep it stable. Those joycons will have a release button that when press will release the pin from the hold and allow you to take the joycons out easily. Like Ron said as long as those pins don't break, it shouldn't be an issue.
@ I sincerely hope you’re right. The only thing I can see making it an issue is going portable and playing some fighting games. That can get a bit intense and I would like to think I wouldn’t break my shiny new system, or controllers.
I love that this system is just more of the same with a power boost. It’s like GameBoy graduating to GameBoy Color. A little more power, but still showing the original the love it deserves.
This could be great. Truly great!
I have a very strong feeling that the dock for Switch 2 will support an M.2 SSD!
I’m worried that Nintendo won’t be able to produce that many Switch 2s which will go straight to the scalpers only to be sold on eBay until like next year when they finally produce more consoles.
Hopefully it's not a bunch of boo-boo-ness!
I'm not sold on it. It's just another switch. There's really nothing that separates this from the switch 1.
Then don’t buy it.
I'm not concerned- It seems pretty obvious that the joycons lock in somehow because of the release switch on the back
It's just really strong magnets, that release button. Button justin something that protrudes out of the controller that pushes it away enough to where the magnetism field isn't as strong so you can pull it off.
From something I was told about from a buddy of mine said the games that are not compatible at this time are the VR stuff and the labo stuff and the emulators at this time but he said about 99% of all switch games that have been released thus far are compatible
What? High demand and shortage of a Nintendo product? When has that ever happened? ☠️
Also, if that really was Mario Kart 9… I don’t know. Looked kinda rough.
I wasn't all that impressed with this reveal. This thing just looks like the Switch Pro that we should have gotten 3-4 years ago.
Labo doesnt fit the console to big. It native but labo doesnt fit Nintendo says this everytime they do backwards compatibility
I don’t think they are going to use HD Rumble which would make games not fully compatible
I think they mean stuff like Labo, Ring Fit, and stuff that uses accessories designed with the original switch and joycons. I think because of it's size of both the tablet and joycons. Maybe like 1, 2 Switch might not work as well. They could release like a new version of ring fit or a sequel that has a new accessory for it that will allow you to play the original.
Depending on the game lineup, that’s how I will determine if I want to buy Switch 2 on release day or not.
Don't worry about the compability till we get more news. Having still be able to use our cartridges is huge. I'm pretty sure most of the big first party games will work. It could be just something like they phased out amiibo compability and/or updated the motion controls, or IR featured that some games used now gone. The new console won't fit in LABO. Things like that.
I think what they mean about certain games not working is maybe like Labo where the console is bigger so it wont fit. Or maybe like Ring fit where it has parts where you put the joy cons in and these joy cons are bigger. Thats what I think I dont think its anything crazy.
No ir sensor or being able to fit with labo being bigger is my guess . That effects like next to none switch games
i hope it is only a small amount that aren't compatible. my backlog is already huge as it is, the backwards compatibility is a pretty big deal for me. not just nintendo but i play mostly ps4 games on my ps5 as well. the controller alone is just better
My concern is the term choice. I read "not fully compatible" and think things with system based accessories, maybe the IR camera etc. so like the game would launch, but the switch 2 lacks features to make full use of some games, 1-2 Switch, Labo and so on. But then I read "Not be supported" and I wonder if there are some that just won't even launch. Like trying to use old pc software and getting that classic error message. My question is, is that the case, if so, why? Is it just legal protection speak? I'll be waiting to see when they finally say more because it's one of my questions too.
It's not the first time we've seen it, but the devil is in the details and I want the details is all.
Dig the Superman hat. 🧢
As far as Switch 2 announcement is concerned I think it’s cool but I was surprised how underwhelming it was.
4:07 - Hopefully your concerns here end up being overblown. I mean offhand just thinking about it they might have to put that disclaimer in there for 2 reasons: A) the Nintendo Switch Labo kits they released and Ring Fit Adventure for example won't be compatible with Switch 2 due to different dimensions on the tablet and Joy-Cons, and B) maybe they can't guarantee that it will be backwards compatible with all third-party games.
I think it’ll be fun, but this was kind of anticlimactic.
It is ridiculous. they can put a d-pad on the switch light and not on the switch 2. keeping the directional buttons is a mistake. it makes no sense.
Yeah but then if buy it you can't play two multiplayer out of the box. Also it's likely they may not even bundle the dock with the system this time. Steam Deck and ROG Ally doesn't so likely Switch 2 may not.
They can't patch the games to work with the new Switch? PS2 had 98% compatibility with PS1 games.
For compatibility, it looks like the IR sensor has gone and probably stuff like the joy cons not fitting in the ring fit
The compatibility part is not that big of a concern but the joycon is the biggest one for me I can see day one a child braking that
Same thing happened with PS5. Turned out to be a few niche titles that were mostly irrelevant.
It didn't stop people crying though, people will always find a way to moan about any little thing.
Only PS4 game I had that I couldn't play on PS5 was Hitman Go. Everything else I can play on the PS5.
I’m pretty sure 98% of the Switch library will be playable… I never owned a switch and I’m already picking out the games I want for it.
Hall effect? Yes they are, and be ready for the unexpected new joycon features!! Mostly excited to try them and see how they implement those in new games... Sounds exciting!!
Hall effect isn't really the silver bullet people think it is
Just ask vita owners lol
I've probably had to replace my vita's sticks 5 or 6 times over the years cause of drift
Labo and ring fit and maybe the IR camera. Things that maybe would be compatible using the old joy cons, like on the switch lite. I think every recent console that is retrocompatible had a similar disclaimer.
Just had a thought, the NES joycon wont work unless there is a way to sync them without sliding them to the rails
Yeah they are supposed to be Hall Effect...
I hope so
One concern I have is availability of microsd express cards that the system will reportedly use. At the moment, none are available on Amazon from what I see. Hopefully the backwards compatibility issue will be small, likely Labo will not be usable. If the game is a big seller and not compatible, they'll likely rerelease a switch 2 version
So, if you have an unboxed Labo, the collector price will go up?
Thats not a big concern. PS5 announced same thing about backwards compability.
The Switch Lite it's also not backwards compatible with every game, like Labo or Ring Fit Adventure. Unless Nintendo says is more than that, I'm not concerned.
WHY DO YOU NEED IT BACKWARDS CAPABLE?! KEEP THE OLDER SWITCH.
I believe only games like 1 2 switch won't work because of the infrared cam missing
About the controller connection. That's exactly what I thought when I saw it. I was like....yeah that's so gonna break. My 13yo niece broke one of the rails on her right joycon. I'm sure she'll make short work of this new system. Honestly, im gonna be more excited to see what after market joy cons are coming. Id like to see an adapter to use my BinBok RGBs on the 2.
Switch 1 was a nightmare to get. 2 sounds like it has ALOT more, don't know the numbers
Don't be so concerned I'm sure they thought about the stuff that you're concerned about concerned concerned about you being concerned.
They've been developing this for years, I doubt there are many stupid mistakes.
You call this 💩 2025 technology?😂😂😂 lmao .....there's 5 times better technology out there
I got sick of the drift and eventually replaced the sticks with GuliKit sticks. It was tedious but it works. Hopefully these new ones are Hall effect
I'd bet 99% plus of the games are compatible. I'm more interested if the Switch 2 will improve performance of switch 1 games, like the latest Zelda, Pokemon, Mario and Luigi that had performance issues.
Maybe the incompatible games will be those that use the right Joy-Con's IR sensor. The Nintendo Labo titles also utilize the body of the original Switch console, and the Switch 2 may not fit into the Labo kits.
I think that's mainly talking about Labo not compatible with Switch 2
there are a handful of games not compatible with Switch Lite or Switch OLED as well. It's joycon related. I guess there could be more for reasons exclusive to the Switch 2 but the statement is true based on joycon changes alone. As for the joycon pin connector looking fragile, if it's recessed in the oval cutout in the tablet body then the joycon could only touch it if it's already properly lined up so it shouldn't be possible to damage it. Also it appears that both joycons can be used like a mouse.
I'm concerned any time we have an edge connector. It is too vulnerable to the environment. The lightning connector on the iPhone is always failing. I have to buy a new cable once or twice per year.
The trailer feels underwhelming.
So when is this coming? Apparently not for a while. Sometime between May and September. I am disappointed with the delay because I get the impression that Nintendo isn't competitive with other systems.
they should had used a magsafe like connector with small pogopins instead of that protruded connector
Can’t see em releasing in fall ,the demand is too big to get as many out for Xmas just my opinion
Where’s the kid whose uncle works at Nintendo? I have questions that need to be answered.
You questions had been answered.
Pretty sure stuff like cardboard, VR and accessories are the problem not the game itself but if it is then I'll be mind-blown
You're going to buy the Switch 2. So you aren't really concerned. 🤣
Bro this was no announcement, it was here is what everyone leaked, nothing to see here, just a shell and Mario Kart, this is NOT how you reveal a system. There was NO reveal. No Specs, No Games, No nothing.....
It was a reveal, not a showcase. What you describe was a showcase where they show the system and actually explain in detail what it could do. It's similar to what they did with the Switch when it first got reveal. Only thing difference was that with the Switch reveal Nintendo focus on it more cause the Wii U was a failure and they just want the Switch out asap. Here though the Switch is still selling like hotcakes so Nintendo is in no rush to quickly showcase the Switch 2. If anything the only thing Nintendo may give us for Switch 2 is more of what the Switch 1 already had, more accessibility, more powers, more storage, more rams, more expensive, and more games, that's all. Nintendo is taking the "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" route with the Switch 2.
Yeah I saw that at the end of the trailer and I was thinking hmm that's really weird, I don't see how some of the older games can't work on this system. Maybe it's like the ps4 games on the ps5 and there's only like a small handful of games that won't work
One would hope the joysticks are hall effect, but at the same time it's Nintendo. I wouldn't be surprised the sticks are unchanged and they put out a warning that they not responsible for wear and degradation, making you spend more money on their controllers.
Labo, Ring Fit, Labo VR, and likely that Mario Kart Live game may not be compatible on Switch 2. Maybe those cloud games are also not compatible which is cool since I never like cloud games anyways, never bought into them. Also what I learn from console launch of the past is that it's better to just wait until the second year to get one. There's likely nothing good coming out the first year and also the console may even had technical or software issues on the first year that usually got resolve on the second year anyways.
I think an example of a non Compatible game would be ring fit adventure. The joy cons will not work on the ring.
Labo for one will not be compatible. I dont think it will be a big deal. Thats probably there for the lawyers or else they would get sued by someone who writes a game that does some kind of check and intentionally doenst run on the Switch 2
Can I ask an honest question here? Aside from just the Nintendo die hards, was anyone ACTUALLY excited by this trailer?
Because to me, this was quite honestly, the least interesting or impressive console announcement I have ever seen. And Ive been through all of them since the original NES.
I bet it's lock to 30fps, 1080p. No 60fps, no 2k, no 4k support. $499.