@Charles Nigel Yap I think it's referencing Cinderella where the dress her fairy godmother gave her only last until midnight where it will disappear afterwards
I really love Kyoko’s and Homura’s friendship in this. It’s so cute how Kyoko cares about Homura. Kyoko is the last person Homura talks to, before becoming a witch.
Honestly, it makes sense. Madoka isn't supposed to be there, so that's fishy right there. Mami's close with a witch (Bebe). And then that confrontation with Sayaka after the fight with Mami made her a person to not trust. Kyoko's the only person who hasn't given Homura a reason to distrust them.
Ikcatcher there’s one scene (in Homura’s first transformation sequence in this movie) where the screen flashes the alphabet runes, and if you translate them, it says “I kill myself”
The symbolism is crazy in this scene... Homura's name can be translated to flame or blaze... and as she slowly realizes shes the witch... the bus itself burn in flames... literally screaming that Homura is the witch...
I also love that it could also represent her self destruction, being that the burning things seen in the start are actually heads. That they represent all her other timelines coming to a close at this one single moment. That before when she faked killing herself only to bite back at the thing saving her. It’s all so self destructive and symbolic it gives me chills.
Also the cruel irony that in the original timeline Madoka tells Homura that she should “become someone that shines like her name” (or something like that, don’t remember the exact dialogue).
Ariana Cochran Well considering in the last episode she was talking to incubator/kyubey about her memories from when Madoka sacrificed herself to make this world? Yeah I'm not surprised her memories eventually clashed with the new realities because she was the only one who remembered as a side effect of her magic. Thus eventually driving her to make an experimental caseing with kuybey to make this ideal world.... Where she basically was chick fully developed inside it's egg. Her becoming a witch inside her subconscious and having herself die there is basically damning herself to death and 0 chance of salvation because of her obsession with madoka. Of course madoka and the others tried saving her but THAT BACKFIRED LIKE ALL HELL! SELFISH BITCH SHOULD'VE DIED!
CrystalOtaku93 She's irrational. That's why she became the devil. No matter what happened after messing up Madoka's god powers, she was still too gone to want to accept Madoka's salvation. She never even cleansed her gem even after the transformation. True, she made a new one, but I think that only grounded her selfishness and terrible feelings.
uploader109 My thoughts exactly. Talk about giving madoka's sacrifice the biggest middle finger ever! As for the whole "didn't purify her soul gem" part. In the series? She didn't purify her soul gem right away for whatever reason. But as far as the movie goes? That's actually due to the new laws that madoka wrote: when a soul gem becomes too tainted, madoka comes to take them away before the owner of that gem becomes a witch. *but here's the problem* homura stops modoka by trapping her wrists and thus holding her there so she can break off the part she wants. *that's* what damned all of them.
If Homura goes with her to 'magical girl' heaven, then it's happy end? What if Kyubey contract another magical girl, and then waited until that magical girl almost turn into witch and trapped her just like they did to Homura? "Oh, Homura and others will help Madoka to fight Kyubey", until when? How many magical girl will be trapped in Kyubey's separate dimension to bait Madoka to cleanse them? Kyubey just need ONE CHANCE, only ONE CHANCE to controlled Madoka, and that's it. Homura realize the horrible future for Madoka, and she wanted to be the agent to change it, and truly does she grab it.
Well, I'm not so sure Kyubey could trap Madoka in any other case *unless* it were Homura. The witch would have to invite Madoka in, and no one knows who Madoka is. So the girl would either be stuck in Witch limbo due to the field forever, or die to her own curses.
Ann Snowfrost I like how in the beginning with all the crashing structures they’re actually heads. Like how Homura tried to kill herself through a headshot earlier in the movie and all her multiple selves in other timelines also reaching their conclusion. Like all her other timelines end at the one destination, symbolised through the multiple usage of self destruction in the burning head scaffolding.
She always do care about her friends.She's just very good at hiding it and consoling herself. In Madoka PSP she even secretly visited Mami's grave. the same goes to Homura,ofc Madoka is top priority.But she does genuinely care for others which explains this fabricated world's existence.
Wow, I can't believe in the original series that Homura didn't tell Kyoko that they were friends in a different universe. Oh my, just think of what could happen if Kyok became a 'god'!
Judah Osboja lel major character?? If anything, in this movie Kyoko was reduced to become fanservice for all KyoSaya shippers. Other than "lending" her spear to Oktavia and all KyoSaya moments, she spent her screentime talking to Homura and being confused.
Christina V is a major part of why I prefer the dub to the sub for Madoka. The other parts are Sarah Anne Williams and the gorgeous visuals that make me not want to be distracted by reading text.
It’s interesting that at that moment, the clock strikes midnight, the owls come down, the fires rampage. The truth is unveiled, and the illusion is over.
@@mattlibra3139 Something possibly unrelated is the Doomsday Clock. When we hit midnight, it means the earths lifespan is over. Perhaps thats why Homura realises at midnight
God you can feel the emotional build up when the bus first arrives for Homura as it signals the end has come for her. The way the scene is played out with the dark atmosphere and the bright headlights really does give an innate feeling of dread and fear. I feel like the Madoka universe is better at horror than most modern cinema.
I agree completely. With the ringing clocks symbolising the realisation and the beginning of the end. Along with the Cinderella illusion being broken and her realisation. The burning scaffolding falling from the sky being a representative of her self destruction, along with all of her other timeline failures leading up to a single moment. The way that her immediate and symbolical world burns around her as she plumes into despair at the realisation of her being the witch. It’s beautifully written and choreographed and animated and it gives me chills every single time. Even her conversation with Kyoko is symbolic in that she threw it all away for a single goal, only to end up meaningless in the end. People, friends, everything for Madoka. All for nothing.
in my opinion what best describes Urobuchi's early subjects is "moral horror," of course Yuki Kayura's depressive songs and Shaft's gothic and surreal atmospheres even make things worse.
It's always heartbreaking to watch this even if I watch this a thousand times. When she said those last lines it's like she felt betrayed by Madoka's wish.
The logic made me kick myself the first time I watched this movie. The signs were all THERE and if I paused to think about the logistics, it would have been so obvious! Still the movie was genius for not giving away the answer so easily. Any time I rewatch this movie, I always find new hints and symbolism that I missed before. It's fun seeing how much detail the creators put into the movie.
That realisation when Homura finds out she’s a Witch hits even harder in English, the Japanese dub did as well in that scene but the English one really evokes the emotion even more. Kudos to Cristina Vee.
"Next stop is the elementary school." "Stop requested." **proceeds to hit the ground nose-first and explodes** Can anyone just admit how fucked that part is?
Okay but let’s not forget the fucked up movie as a whole then proceeding to play a sweet song like Kimi No Gin No Niwa after Homura *fucks with Madoka’s fate once again*
well, it IS a reality-warping labyrinth XD. Look at all the random stuff coming out of nowhere, and the sudden cuts to completely different places throughout the movie.
+puttymon I always guessed that the way her phone falls to the ground by swaying back and forth was to and to the ongoing motif of time in this movie, especially because time is Homura's magic. The phone moving back and forth looked like the swinging of a pendulum. I don't know, just my take on it.
“FORT! DA!” Which refers to Freud’s theory that those who do not remember past trauma may have the drive to repeat the repressed experience in their present life. FORT! DA! Is referred to Homura. It speaks on her forgetting her memories in the beginning of the movie, and to her reliving her cycle of trying to save Madoka and later discovering she is the witch.
Homura: >Calls friend >Talks about forgetting things >Tells friend she shouldn't remember her other friend >Makes it sound like she's about to commit toaster-bathtub >Refuses to elaborate further >Dies
Comment's gonna be a bit late but her hair resembles the way flames flutter. Ties in beautifully with what's going on and the fact that her name literally means flame
What's really funny is Homura seems to be able to freeze time for seemingly hours at a time without nearly any cost to her or her magic reserves, not to mention her rewind abilities. She also possesses a pocket dimension meaning she can bend space and time, and considering that she's the reason that Madoka has as much potential energy as she does the Incubators not pursuing her over Madoka can only be because they're complete morons. After all, who cares about Madoka when Homura made Madoka? Control Homura and you control potentially infinite Madokas.
note4note that’s why they let her do it. In infinite timelines she tries and fails to save Madoka. With incubators being infinitely omnipresent, it only makes sense to utilise the one trigger for all your energy. Whenever she went back, she essentially began the long or short process of turning on a battery. With each succession becoming longer or shorter than the last, and each resulting in either a total failure (which would guarantee another attempt) or a successful transformation into a witch (which gives the big energy). They were quite smart. One thing dedicating its entire existence, infinitely loyal, never straying from its one cause. Blinded by emotions that they cannot fathom. They gave her all the tools she needed to build up their energy. She was the tool. And they? They were the ones using it. Funny in the end I suppose.
You have to remember that in the new world madoka created the incubators don’t even remember her rewriting it. It was only until homura for some reason telling incubator about it at the end of the series. All the incubators did was use homura to test what the witch concept is and lure out madoka in order to control her. The incubators were actually smart if you’d ask me cuz their plan almost worked. They confirmed and was able to pin point the law of cycles (madoka) thx to homura referring it being her used isolated homura soul gem and waited as madoka get trapped in lol.
So I’m guessing the grief seeds stay dormant until one of two things happens, the magical girl realizes it happened and accepts (basically unleashing her full witch power) or she collects so much despair within her grief seed until it just explodes, or hatches unleashing her witch form.
Emerald Riii True, but Homura is stuck in stasis since the incubators prevented the witch transformation from completing. So even though she's calling herself a witch, she's technically more in a limbo.
uploader109 she was stuck but the incubators only did that because that timeline didn’t have witches to begin with only wrath’s and they wanted to test it. Witches are built up in the grief seed. Then unleashed. So witches were new to those incubators of that timeline. Homura only has the witches maze in her soul gem because the incubators trapped her if they didn’t do that Homura would have fallen the path of Sayaka.
Probably not as instantaneously. Madoka would probably have no way to reverse the witch transformation if it happened right before she can take her soul away. We aren't sure exactly how much of the Law of Cycles was in Homura's soul gem, so it could very well be possible that another Madoka (due to time shenanigans) was there anyway. In any case, she would still have about a few minutes before her soul gem completely transformed since they had enough time to give her back her soul gem before she woke back up and Madoka was on her way.
Homura isn't in limbo. She's a full blown witch from the movie's get go. The whole city is her Labyrinth and she absorbed Kyoko and Mami (ONLY Kyoko and Mami because Sayaka, Madoka, and Bebe wasn't absorbed but instead infiltrated her Labyrinth). In this universe, the Madokami universe, witches don't exist because the Law of Cycle exist, BUT the incubators found ways to isolate Soul Gems from the law, leading to this movie. If the incubators hadn't trapped her, Homura would just ascended and not become a witch at all.
2:45 - Another German phrase, I know it as "Fort da!" = lit. "Go away from (t)here!" (actually a little bit old-fashioned, today we'd rather say "Weg da!") However "Folter" fits perfect nevertheless. (Initially I thought "Forta wtf? Italian all of the sudden?") LOL XD
The Madokas appearing in the background of the labyrinth (when Kyoko is on the phone) Only appear after Homura mentions her. This same thing happens before, when she thinks about Bebe (during her battle with Mami) and Bebe appears on the screens behind her. This is reminiscent of Sayaka’s memories playing on screens around her after she turns into a witch in the series- And it foreshadows Homura’s control over the environment, pointing to her being the witch long before it’s revealed :) The amount of detail in this movie is phenomenal hhhh I never get tired of it
Ok so I figured out why the chant “fort da” can be heard in the background. I did a bit of research and it turns out this is a reference to Sigmund Freud. In short, it means that humans tend to want to relive their past trauma in order to “master” it, aka learn how to deal with it better. This makes sense as it’s pretty close to what homura did. Reliving madoka’s demise over and over because she wanted to find a way to stop it. I love that madoka magica has deep symbolism that makes you think about and analyze what’s going on
Rebellion honestly fucked me up on a whole different level Also, in this scene it shows the owls, which in dreams is a representation of expanded awareness and wisdom of the “unconscious areas of your soul”
Honestly the level of concern and care from Kyouko here, as far as she could tell from Homura's tone and wording, she could tell Homura was planning some kind of suicide, and the response reflects that, the "tell me where you are and Ill come get" you really makes me read it that way
More than becoming,she's finally realizing. She was always a Witch,this fake world is her Laberynth. And know she knows. She knows she was a Witch since the start and all of this is a lie.
She actually didn’t know until that point lol. The incubators watched as everything happened and they mentioned how her own memory rewriting affected her forgetting she was a witch and madoka forgetting she was a god
Homura and Kyoko have more chemistry than Homura does with Madoka. Kyoko is really the glue for the group. She has a good dynamic with all the Quintet members.
Homura was always jealous for Sakura ability to improvize and proceed with a quick and clever decision. Since she was tied to Madoka, she was struggling all the time. Mami is a solo player, Sayaka is a hypocrite so in case things were wrong, Sayaka would be the best choice for a quick necessary and dirty actions. On the other hand, Homura was mentally strong from the very beginning and she wish to protect Madoka, because she was the weakest and purest one. Tbh, I appreciate their friendship more then what Homura did for Madoka at the end of rebellion (which is the ultimate sacrifice still, reconfigure the whole universe just for one person sake is an insane gesture of love)
I think it’s so heartbreaking at the last moment of this scene where she says aloud and fully gives up in a sense or fully accepts in an instant, the heatbreakingness in her voice as she asks herself “when did I… become a witch…”
*Fort da* is kinda like *get away* or *go away* in Germany. *FUNFACT:* In the German version of Rebellion the Children are saying *Gott ist tot* which means *God is dead* .
Kyubey gets what he deserves, but she’s actually making things _worse_ with the Incubator situation. According to Kyubey, magic requires “emotional energy,” and how powerful the magical girl is depends on how strong their karma is. Kyubey has been around for _everything,_ since the first magical girl made her wish, through Ultimate Madoka’s rewrite to now Akuma Homura’s rewrite. That’s more magical potential than any other magical girl that’s ever lived. Now with Akuma Homura shoving the universe’s curses into him, he has tons of emotions to spare, and insanity too. This means he can grant himself his own wish. That is the worst possible outcome.
John Doe I know this comment is a whole year old but the incubators can’t feel emotions. Kyubey says so multiple times throughout the series. So even with all of the curses shoved into them it’s not like the incubators could really do something with it. Also I don’t think they can grant themselves wishes, if they could I’d think they’d do it right off the bat to fix the universes energy problem instead of creating the magical girl system
@@notauser4681 i know this is an old comment, but in case you're still looking for a place to watch in for free then i know a site thewatchcartoononline.tv you'll have to search up the series and click on the title in order to access the movie if i remember correctly
Isn’t Madoka Magica just the best magical girl anime ever? So many reasons for this. Whoever says bad stuff about it or says it’s overrated obviously either hasn’t watched it or has no idea what ‘beautiful anime’ is. Also ‘Flame of Despair’ is so beautiful and emotional!
Well she probably isn’t mentally mature enough to try and realise the beauty and art of Madoka Magica. It may have deconstructed the magical girl genre but there ARE magical girl anime which are darker and edgier than this.
She finally completed her memory collection of all the witch form of all her friends including herself Gretchen, Candeloro, Ophelia, Oktavia and Homulilly
Just found something that's kind of insane. The runes at 1:01 are backwards, and they translate to "SIE". I looked it up, and apparently in Polish, "sie" means "myself." Thank you, PMMM, for having so much symbolism!
Madoka Magica has a lot of references to German literature, thus I can imagine that "Sie" is supposed to mean "She", which would correlate to the pictures of Madoka being shown before
Ok my theory behind this is that after madoka sacrificed herself and became the god of the next world, homura grieved for years knowing all of her friends died and thus her sould gem turned into a greif seed and thus she created a alternate reality where madoka exists and the witches never existed
@@teeveeee I can't exactly feel bad for a full blown yandere. Just because she's cuter doesn't mean she wasn't just an obsessed girl ready to kill anyone for Madoka.
She did tons of things wrong, she made mistakes. She’s human. Her actions were given consequence. She isn’t a good person. All though, this doesn’t mean she’s a bad person, she’s a selfish person. That also doesn’t mean she doesn’t deserve forgiveness, because she does. She needs a mother like figure, somebody to cry to, she latched on to Madoka and fell in love with her in every way (sisterly, platonically, romantically, daughterly, etc) So yes, Homura did do things wrong, but she deserves forgiveness. She dug her own grave for somebody and her actions became useless, and was buried in grief. Her actions were justified, but not right. Homura’s actions are justified is probably what you meant.
SHEESH WHY DO PEOPLE ACT LIKE HOMURA IS THAT BAD? PLEASE,EVEN THOUGH I HAVEN'T WATCHED THE MOVIE,I KNOW THE PLOT. SHE BASICALLY STEALS SOME OF MADOKA's POWER TO MAKE A NEW YOU KNOW WHAT!
in terms of the three strongest witches in order in madoka magica it is 1.gretchen 2.Homulily 3.walpurgisnacht yes homulily is way more dangerous that walpurgisnacht look at the pure numbers of servants and then there is the clara dolls which could probably beat walpurgisnacht just on their own even if it was homulilly vs walpurgisnacht of how much destruction they can cause in a certain amount of time homulilly's hand ribbons are much more destructive and unpredictable you can even see this when homura realizes she is a witch you can see meteors and things blowing up just by her finding out and look at how many kyubeys her servants killed kyubey is pretty agile so for her servants to outspeed him by just running themselves is scary due to if you have no magical girls who can doe aoe attacks then your pretty much screwed against her
the bridge where everything happens is also the bridge where homura is attacked for the first time in the series by a witch and where she meets and discovers that Madoka and Mami are magical girls
If you look up Homulilly’s wiki it says the Clara dolls are the children of the false city, is the false Mitakihara city the false city the wiki is talking about?
Just to clarify, the dolls are saying "FORT! DA!", not "Florida"
It apparently refers to Freud's denial of pleasure
Or Folter --> Torment (german) :)
I always thought they were saying "Polka!" or "Folka!"
I always understood "For god." but with a sharp t instead of d. D:
Just a little by of interesting trivia, in the GERMAN dub they say Gott is tot (god is dead)
I always heard “porta” for some reason - Latin for “door.”
This is what happen when you don't thank the bus driver
Lol
Yep
Ummm, I didnt thank the bus driver 34 times...
*AM I GONNA TURN INTO A WITCH?!?!*
This is the magical school bus
Lol
The clock struck twelve, _and the illusion was over._
_at this moment, the Nutcracker touched her face and realized; _*_"My jaw is Broken!"_*
@Charles Nigel Yap I think it's referencing Cinderella where the dress her fairy godmother gave her only last until midnight where it will disappear afterwards
@Charles Nigel Yap 12 midnight is also known as the Witching hour
@@patrickgabriel9433 3 am is the witching hour in Catholic terms.
12 years, how long Homura went on all those timelines
Homura didn't become a witch, she has been a witch. Shes finally beginning to realize that she's the witch.
Jay OH SHIT
Jay when did she become a witch?
How did that happen anyways? Aren't witches insane?
this is more or less her mind space. think about it and then realise you are watching her going insane
@@toawing yes its kinda scary
I really love Kyoko’s and Homura’s friendship in this. It’s so cute how Kyoko cares about Homura. Kyoko is the last person Homura talks to, before becoming a witch.
Honestly, it makes sense. Madoka isn't supposed to be there, so that's fishy right there. Mami's close with a witch (Bebe). And then that confrontation with Sayaka after the fight with Mami made her a person to not trust. Kyoko's the only person who hasn't given Homura a reason to distrust them.
Same
theres also a shot right before the final battle of kyoko looking at a decapitated homura statue and she looks really sad.
I know you misspelled to, but I dunno why I even replied to this. I dunno,maybe because I like this?
KyōHomu is good, but MadoHomu is still the best PMMM ship.
(Stop requested)
(Bus crashes)
Wow that’s some fine black comedy right there
Ikcatcher there’s one scene (in Homura’s first transformation sequence in this movie) where the screen flashes the alphabet runes, and if you translate them, it says “I kill myself”
Story of my life
It was pretty good
The symbolism is crazy in this scene... Homura's name can be translated to flame or blaze... and as she slowly realizes shes the witch... the bus itself burn in flames... literally screaming that Homura is the witch...
Aw,I really wish she was NOT the witch.
I also love that it could also represent her self destruction, being that the burning things seen in the start are actually heads. That they represent all her other timelines coming to a close at this one single moment. That before when she faked killing herself only to bite back at the thing saving her. It’s all so self destructive and symbolic it gives me chills.
another fun Easter egg is that the title of the track playing during that scene is "Flame of Despair"
@@notauser4681 you mean after suspecting Bebe, choking her and then starting that unnecessary gun fight with Mami Tomoe! !?
Also the cruel irony that in the original timeline Madoka tells Homura that she should “become someone that shines like her name” (or something like that, don’t remember the exact dialogue).
You mean; “Becomes aware of the fact that she was a witch this WHOLE GODDAMN MOVIE?”
Ariana Cochran
Well considering in the last episode she was talking to incubator/kyubey about her memories from when Madoka sacrificed herself to make this world? Yeah I'm not surprised her memories eventually clashed with the new realities because she was the only one who remembered as a side effect of her magic. Thus eventually driving her to make an experimental caseing with kuybey to make this ideal world.... Where she basically was chick fully developed inside it's egg. Her becoming a witch inside her subconscious and having herself die there is basically damning herself to death and 0 chance of salvation because of her obsession with madoka. Of course madoka and the others tried saving her but THAT BACKFIRED LIKE ALL HELL! SELFISH BITCH SHOULD'VE DIED!
CrystalOtaku93 She's irrational. That's why she became the devil. No matter what happened after messing up Madoka's god powers, she was still too gone to want to accept Madoka's salvation. She never even cleansed her gem even after the transformation. True, she made a new one, but I think that only grounded her selfishness and terrible feelings.
uploader109
My thoughts exactly. Talk about giving madoka's sacrifice the biggest middle finger ever! As for the whole "didn't purify her soul gem" part. In the series? She didn't purify her soul gem right away for whatever reason. But as far as the movie goes? That's actually due to the new laws that madoka wrote: when a soul gem becomes too tainted, madoka comes to take them away before the owner of that gem becomes a witch. *but here's the problem* homura stops modoka by trapping her wrists and thus holding her there so she can break off the part she wants. *that's* what damned all of them.
If Homura goes with her to 'magical girl' heaven, then it's happy end? What if Kyubey contract another magical girl, and then waited until that magical girl almost turn into witch and trapped her just like they did to Homura? "Oh, Homura and others will help Madoka to fight Kyubey", until when? How many magical girl will be trapped in Kyubey's separate dimension to bait Madoka to cleanse them? Kyubey just need ONE CHANCE, only ONE CHANCE to controlled Madoka, and that's it. Homura realize the horrible future for Madoka, and she wanted to be the agent to change it, and truly does she grab it.
Well, I'm not so sure Kyubey could trap Madoka in any other case *unless* it were Homura. The witch would have to invite Madoka in, and no one knows who Madoka is. So the girl would either be stuck in Witch limbo due to the field forever, or die to her own curses.
It's so full of symbolism I can't keep up...
Ann Snowfrost I like how in the beginning with all the crashing structures they’re actually heads. Like how Homura tried to kill herself through a headshot earlier in the movie and all her multiple selves in other timelines also reaching their conclusion. Like all her other timelines end at the one destination, symbolised through the multiple usage of self destruction in the burning head scaffolding.
"The levels of Symbolism are higher than 9,000".
All the nightmare fuels aside, I like how how Kyoko's worrying about Homura in this scene.
She always do care about her friends.She's just very good at hiding it and consoling herself. In Madoka PSP she even secretly visited Mami's grave. the same goes to Homura,ofc Madoka is top priority.But she does genuinely care for others which explains this fabricated world's existence.
@@muhibbuddinbinyusoff9657 ikr!!!
Wow, I can't believe in the original series that Homura didn't tell Kyoko that they were friends in a different universe. Oh my, just think of what could happen if Kyok became a 'god'!
She did, Kyoko just didn’t believe her, I read about it in one of the mangas.
I wonder how Kyoko would feel about Homura, if Homura actually did kill Mami. I garuntee that Kyoko would hate her!!
I love that when Homura finally realized/accepted she was the witch, the clocks all struck 12. What's midnight also known as? The "witching hour".
i think witching hour is 3;33
It's Cinderella reference i think, when the illusions end at midnight
@blaireofhylia1572 Both are considered witching hour, it depends on the culture or region.
Oh shit I thought it was a reference to the doomsday clock
@@redinspanish That´s actually a very valid point there.
I love how Kyoko is a major character in this
Judah Osboja
lel major character?? If anything, in this movie Kyoko was reduced to become fanservice for all KyoSaya shippers. Other than "lending" her spear to Oktavia and all KyoSaya moments, she spent her screentime talking to Homura and being confused.
Judah Osboja I love how Sayaka is a major character
I love how Madoka somehow isn't a main character
Same! She’s my favorite character
Right?! I love Kyoko and she’s never given any attention. I have a Madoka Magica poster and she’s not even put on it
A round of applause for Cristina V for her soulful performance on Homura Akemi.
Christina V is a major part of why I prefer the dub to the sub for Madoka.
The other parts are Sarah Anne Williams and the gorgeous visuals that make me not want to be distracted by reading text.
The fact that Christina Vee also performs Bad Apple in Japanese and English is some 4th wall demolishing stuff.
THAT WAS CRISTINA V?! OML I LOVE HER SO MUCH AAAAH
She really does drive home the point that Homura is in distress
She was way better than the original Japanese actress during this scene. The emotion, man!!! I almost cried!
“When Did I….. BECOME A WITCH!!!”
Always Gives Me Chills…
same bro
2:15
Homura’s over 100m from her gem. If she were a magical girl, she’d lose control of her body. Since she didn’t, she knows she’s a witch.
It’s interesting that at that moment, the clock strikes midnight, the owls come down, the fires rampage. The truth is unveiled, and the illusion is over.
@@mattlibra3139 Something possibly unrelated is the Doomsday Clock. When we hit midnight, it means the earths lifespan is over. Perhaps thats why Homura realises at midnight
also that the bus ends up in mitakihara city... which she travelled from. She confirmed she's trapped in a labrynth
If the flowers sprouting near Homura looks like spider Lilies to me, they usually sprout near cemeteries and represent death, holy frick.-.
Red spider lillies in the japanese flower language (hanakotoba) mean abandonment/lost memory/never to meet again
Katrina Calvin They’re called red spider lilies?! THANK YOU FOR EXISTING, I’VE BEEN TRYING TO FIGURE THAT OUT FOR DAYS
Well they’re lilies and homura’s which is named Homulilly. Sooooo you know, put two and two together
@@hotmess_express5060 OMG :O
wtf are spider lillies?
God you can feel the emotional build up when the bus first arrives for Homura as it signals the end has come for her. The way the scene is played out with the dark atmosphere and the bright headlights really does give an innate feeling of dread and fear. I feel like the Madoka universe is better at horror than most modern cinema.
omg i totally agreeeeeee
I agree completely. With the ringing clocks symbolising the realisation and the beginning of the end. Along with the Cinderella illusion being broken and her realisation. The burning scaffolding falling from the sky being a representative of her self destruction, along with all of her other timeline failures leading up to a single moment. The way that her immediate and symbolical world burns around her as she plumes into despair at the realisation of her being the witch. It’s beautifully written and choreographed and animated and it gives me chills every single time. Even her conversation with Kyoko is symbolic in that she threw it all away for a single goal, only to end up meaningless in the end. People, friends, everything for Madoka. All for nothing.
in my opinion what best describes Urobuchi's early subjects is "moral horror," of course Yuki Kayura's depressive songs and Shaft's gothic and surreal atmospheres even make things worse.
It's always heartbreaking to watch this even if I watch this a thousand times. When she said those last lines it's like she felt betrayed by Madoka's wish.
Her own wish betrayed her, as Kyubey said.
I really hope Homura dies in the anime sequel to this movie! #boycott SHAFT Animation Studio and Magia Record for the anime sequel to Rebellion! !!
@@EveryMan-yz1ce what?
@@EveryMan-yz1ce why ?
@@Lisa-xr8kn you know why, you fuckin Homura Ass kisser! ! !
While it's overshadowed by her becoming a demon, everything about Homulilly is really heartbreaking
When the jaw off the Nutcracker witch falls off, symbolizing how Homura lost her reason for existing... 🥺
The logic made me kick myself the first time I watched this movie. The signs were all THERE and if I paused to think about the logistics, it would have been so obvious! Still the movie was genius for not giving away the answer so easily.
Any time I rewatch this movie, I always find new hints and symbolism that I missed before. It's fun seeing how much detail the creators put into the movie.
Same
I didn’t notice until I rewatched the movie months later; Homura and Sayaka have their witch names appear in the transformation sequence.
I knew something was up when they froze time in the nightmare fight in the beginning.....I just didn't expect this
That realisation when Homura finds out she’s a Witch hits even harder in English, the Japanese dub did as well in that scene but the English one really evokes the emotion even more. Kudos to Cristina Vee.
The "when did it even happen...? When did I...Become a witch?!?!" Chills!
Kyōko’s concern gives me life.
It really shows what a caring friend she is.
Same with Homura apologizing she genuinely didn't mean to cause anyone harm.
@@kerri-lynndunne9942 indeed
"Next stop is the elementary school."
"Stop requested."
**proceeds to hit the ground nose-first and explodes**
Can anyone just admit how fucked that part is?
Okay but let’s not forget the fucked up movie as a whole then proceeding to play a sweet song like Kimi No Gin No Niwa after Homura *fucks with Madoka’s fate once again*
I fucking laughed so hard. Does that make me a terrible person?
Xendella-P I also laughed but I'm an asshole sooo
Aria Andrea A-S I mean that sweet song talks about keeping Madoka prisoner in her world...
I mean it wasn’t REAL children
Probably one of the most shocking moments of the movie, good movie by the way
WeavelCow
And the freakiest!
You just triggered half the fan base. The other half agrees with you
Say what you want about the ending, it’s a visual spectacle at least
Being meguca is suffering.
Hameru, *rabu*
*Rabu*
o my god you watched that meme?
@@c-1525 no meduka you can't become meguca
dOn'T tHrOw SoUlS-
I love the detail that at 4:20 they start playing Oktavia's theme, the first magical girl we saw become a witch
2:17 Sooooo unrelated but just look her when she's surprised. Her eyes go all big and round and she looks so cute and innocent!
shes the complete opposite.
Moemera has returned!
Caroline Tanico SHE DOSE
I know right??? For the first time she looks innocenttttt
Her Moemura side is showing X3
1:42 So I guess homura had a phone that had the weight of a feather? I mean LOOK AT HOW IT FALLS.
well, it IS a reality-warping labyrinth XD. Look at all the random stuff coming out of nowhere, and the sudden cuts to completely different places throughout the movie.
And you know she does sort of SHOOT HERSELF POINT BLANK IN THE HEAD and doesn't die soooo
Judah Osboja+ That's because she's a magical girl. She can't die that way.
That’s the entire point though.
+puttymon I always guessed that the way her phone falls to the ground by swaying back and forth was to and to the ongoing motif of time in this movie, especially because time is Homura's magic. The phone moving back and forth looked like the swinging of a pendulum. I don't know, just my take on it.
2:14 Homura has gotten a case of the Skittles.
😂😂😂
XD
What a horrible colour!!
What is that!? Obsession!?
“FORT! DA!” Which refers to Freud’s theory that those who do not remember past trauma may have the drive to repeat the repressed experience in their present life.
FORT! DA! Is referred to Homura. It speaks on her forgetting her memories in the beginning of the movie, and to her reliving her cycle of trying to save Madoka and later discovering she is the witch.
Homura:
>Calls friend
>Talks about forgetting things
>Tells friend she shouldn't remember her other friend
>Makes it sound like she's about to commit toaster-bathtub
>Refuses to elaborate further
>Dies
Can we talk about how beautifully animated Homura’s hair is during this scene.
Edit: thanks for the all the likes
you mean, aesthetically pleasing?
Comment's gonna be a bit late but her hair resembles the way flames flutter. Ties in beautifully with what's going on and the fact that her name literally means flame
Lmao "atheistically pleasing"
Fr
@@rokamayono2312 yesh, I think Japanese animation is animated on every two frames. So they drew her hair on every other frame. WoW
What's really funny is Homura seems to be able to freeze time for seemingly hours at a time without nearly any cost to her or her magic reserves, not to mention her rewind abilities. She also possesses a pocket dimension meaning she can bend space and time, and considering that she's the reason that Madoka has as much potential energy as she does the Incubators not pursuing her over Madoka can only be because they're complete morons.
After all, who cares about Madoka when Homura made Madoka? Control Homura and you control potentially infinite Madokas.
note4note that’s why they let her do it. In infinite timelines she tries and fails to save Madoka. With incubators being infinitely omnipresent, it only makes sense to utilise the one trigger for all your energy. Whenever she went back, she essentially began the long or short process of turning on a battery. With each succession becoming longer or shorter than the last, and each resulting in either a total failure (which would guarantee another attempt) or a successful transformation into a witch (which gives the big energy). They were quite smart. One thing dedicating its entire existence, infinitely loyal, never straying from its one cause. Blinded by emotions that they cannot fathom. They gave her all the tools she needed to build up their energy. She was the tool. And they? They were the ones using it. Funny in the end I suppose.
You have to remember that in the new world madoka created the incubators don’t even remember her rewriting it. It was only until homura for some reason telling incubator about it at the end of the series. All the incubators did was use homura to test what the witch concept is and lure out madoka in order to control her. The incubators were actually smart if you’d ask me cuz their plan almost worked. They confirmed and was able to pin point the law of cycles (madoka) thx to homura referring it being her used isolated homura soul gem and waited as madoka get trapped in lol.
So I’m guessing the grief seeds stay dormant until one of two things happens, the magical girl realizes it happened and accepts (basically unleashing her full witch power) or she collects so much despair within her grief seed until it just explodes, or hatches unleashing her witch form.
Emerald Riii True, but Homura is stuck in stasis since the incubators prevented the witch transformation from completing.
So even though she's calling herself a witch, she's technically more in a limbo.
uploader109 she was stuck but the incubators only did that because that timeline didn’t have witches to begin with only wrath’s and they wanted to test it. Witches are built up in the grief seed. Then unleashed. So witches were new to those incubators of that timeline. Homura only has the witches maze in her soul gem because the incubators trapped her if they didn’t do that Homura would have fallen the path of Sayaka.
Probably not as instantaneously. Madoka would probably have no way to reverse the witch transformation if it happened right before she can take her soul away. We aren't sure exactly how much of the Law of Cycles was in Homura's soul gem, so it could very well be possible that another Madoka (due to time shenanigans) was there anyway.
In any case, she would still have about a few minutes before her soul gem completely transformed since they had enough time to give her back her soul gem before she woke back up and Madoka was on her way.
Homura isn't in limbo. She's a full blown witch from the movie's get go. The whole city is her Labyrinth and she absorbed Kyoko and Mami (ONLY Kyoko and Mami because Sayaka, Madoka, and Bebe wasn't absorbed but instead infiltrated her Labyrinth). In this universe, the Madokami universe, witches don't exist because the Law of Cycle exist, BUT the incubators found ways to isolate Soul Gems from the law, leading to this movie. If the incubators hadn't trapped her, Homura would just ascended and not become a witch at all.
straypaper You cannot be a "full blown witch" without becoming a grief seed.
FOLTER FOLTER!
(Torment, Torment)
2:45 - Another German phrase, I know it as "Fort da!" = lit. "Go away from (t)here!" (actually a little bit old-fashioned, today we'd rather say "Weg da!") However "Folter" fits perfect nevertheless. (Initially I thought "Forta wtf? Italian all of the sudden?") LOL XD
FLORIDA
I've always wondered what that word is
BREAKING NEWS: FLORIDA GIRL DISCOVERS SHE'S BEEN THE LAST BOSS ALL ALONG--
okay I'll stop
Are we sure it's not Morte? Which is latin for desth. In French it mean Dead Woman. Either way that's what I'm hearing
The Madokas appearing in the background of the labyrinth (when Kyoko is on the phone) Only appear after Homura mentions her.
This same thing happens before, when she thinks about Bebe (during her battle with Mami) and Bebe appears on the screens behind her.
This is reminiscent of Sayaka’s memories playing on screens around her after she turns into a witch in the series- And it foreshadows Homura’s control over the environment, pointing to her being the witch long before it’s revealed :) The amount of detail in this movie is phenomenal hhhh I never get tired of it
Ok so I figured out why the chant “fort da” can be heard in the background. I did a bit of research and it turns out this is a reference to Sigmund Freud. In short, it means that humans tend to want to relive their past trauma in order to “master” it, aka learn how to deal with it better. This makes sense as it’s pretty close to what homura did. Reliving madoka’s demise over and over because she wanted to find a way to stop it. I love that madoka magica has deep symbolism that makes you think about and analyze what’s going on
If madoka didnt let homura keep memories of her, this wouldn't have happened.
Rebellion honestly fucked me up on a whole different level
Also, in this scene it shows the owls, which in dreams is a representation of expanded awareness and wisdom of the “unconscious areas of your soul”
The park when Homura says ,,When did i become a witch?" is better in English
It gets me every time
Honestly the level of concern and care from Kyouko here, as far as she could tell from Homura's tone and wording, she could tell Homura was planning some kind of suicide, and the response reflects that, the "tell me where you are and Ill come get" you really makes me read it that way
2:07 When the drugs start working
Homura: Fuck I'm high
Well I'm on some marijuana!
яυвуяσѕє тαιl RPG Madokijuana*
Homura really did care about her friends. She just became obsessed with madoka. She still cares but now she only sees them as obstacles
More than becoming,she's finally realizing. She was always a Witch,this fake world is her Laberynth. And know she knows.
She knows she was a Witch since the start and all of this is a lie.
She actually didn’t know until that point lol. The incubators watched as everything happened and they mentioned how her own memory rewriting affected her forgetting she was a witch and madoka forgetting she was a god
poor Homura she was only trying to protect the other magical girls
Indeed
yeah and i hope that GUY up there sees that he was wrong about homura being a witch.
Homura and Kyoko have more chemistry than Homura does with Madoka. Kyoko is really the glue for the group. She has a good dynamic with all the Quintet members.
Homura was always jealous for Sakura ability to improvize and proceed with a quick and clever decision. Since she was tied to Madoka, she was struggling all the time. Mami is a solo player, Sayaka is a hypocrite so in case things were wrong, Sayaka would be the best choice for a quick necessary and dirty actions.
On the other hand, Homura was mentally strong from the very beginning and she wish to protect Madoka, because she was the weakest and purest one.
Tbh, I appreciate their friendship more then what Homura did for Madoka at the end of rebellion (which is the ultimate sacrifice still, reconfigure the whole universe just for one person sake is an insane gesture of love)
I think it’s so heartbreaking at the last moment of this scene where she says aloud and fully gives up in a sense or fully accepts in an instant, the heatbreakingness in her voice as she asks herself “when did I… become a witch…”
@4:18 The desperation in her voice gave me goosebumps 😖
*Fort da* is kinda like *get away* or *go away* in Germany.
*FUNFACT:*
In the German version of Rebellion the Children are saying *Gott ist tot* which means *God is dead* .
i feel for homura, alos kybuey gets what he desevers in the ending
Spiderlilly Catacombs Tfw your entire species gets cleanup duty for all eternity
Kyubey gets what he deserves, but she’s actually making things _worse_ with the Incubator situation. According to Kyubey, magic requires “emotional energy,” and how powerful the magical girl is depends on how strong their karma is. Kyubey has been around for _everything,_ since the first magical girl made her wish, through Ultimate Madoka’s rewrite to now Akuma Homura’s rewrite. That’s more magical potential than any other magical girl that’s ever lived. Now with Akuma Homura shoving the universe’s curses into him, he has tons of emotions to spare, and insanity too. This means he can grant himself his own wish. That is the worst possible outcome.
what happened? I HAVE to watch the movie.Is is free???
John Doe I know this comment is a whole year old but the incubators can’t feel emotions. Kyubey says so multiple times throughout the series. So even with all of the curses shoved into them it’s not like the incubators could really do something with it. Also I don’t think they can grant themselves wishes, if they could I’d think they’d do it right off the bat to fix the universes energy problem instead of creating the magical girl system
@@notauser4681 i know this is an old comment, but in case you're still looking for a place to watch in for free then i know a site
thewatchcartoononline.tv
you'll have to search up the series and click on the title in order to access the movie if i remember correctly
Cool how the song in the background is called "flame of despair"
Curious, because the name homura means "Flame"
Jesus... Homura's entire Labyrinth is a SMALL CITY?
Well. She had enough Despair bottled up to fill a whole City....
@@hakimdhaou and enough love to fill the universe
4:09 “did you heard that? Homura is questioning her life decisions!”
Poor Homura ☹️
Oriana Rodriguez Antonio Yea poor homura, this poor girl who decided to become the devil. I'm truly feeling her ...
I get where you guys stand but I just can't bring myself to feel sorry for her.
Fuck Homura
I fill bad for her because she tortured
I fill bad for her because she tortured because she tries to save Madoka again and again
Isn’t Madoka Magica just the best magical girl anime ever? So many reasons for this.
Whoever says bad stuff about it or says it’s overrated obviously either hasn’t watched it or has no idea what ‘beautiful anime’ is.
Also ‘Flame of Despair’ is so beautiful and emotional!
I once saw a person obsessed with Sailor Moon hate on this 'cause it deconstructs the magical girl genre and ruins her childhood lol
Well she probably isn’t mentally mature enough to try and realise the beauty and art of Madoka Magica.
It may have deconstructed the magical girl genre but there ARE magical girl anime which are darker and edgier than this.
I love how Kyoko actually cares for Homura before she (Homura) became a witch
The despair in the line “when did it even happen?” And the heart break realisation in “when did I become a witch?”
Marinette dupain-cheng: Who are you?
Homura: You, but a chaotic gay
I understand this only because I recently learned that they have the same English voice actor.
Mami and Alya have the same English VAs, too
LMAO
Lmao
God, Rebellion-and Madoka as a whole-is so well directed
The amount of symbolisim in this movie makes my head hurt
She finally completed her memory collection of all the witch form of all her friends including herself Gretchen, Candeloro, Ophelia, Oktavia and Homulilly
She finally gave up on ADRIEN after all the cringy attempts to go for her true love Madoka, now that’s a love story I can get behind.
At the very end of the video the background music sounded a lot like a part of Symposium Magarum (Sayaka’s witch theme). Did anyone else hear it?
i did not i turned the volume so no one knew i was using the off-limits computer
Yeah
when you say BAD WORD on the bus
no, do not give in! YOU ARE MY FAVORITE CHARACTER DO NOT DIE
Masterpiece. I can’t wait for the next movie
They said it's probably gonna come this year, and I hope it does. We've come this far.
Thier voices...It's so obvious that they got replaced.
And I really loved the sass Kyoko had in her voice..
Just found something that's kind of insane. The runes at 1:01 are backwards, and they translate to "SIE". I looked it up, and apparently in Polish, "sie" means "myself."
Thank you, PMMM, for having so much symbolism!
Madoka Magica has a lot of references to German literature, thus I can imagine that "Sie" is supposed to mean "She", which would correlate to the pictures of Madoka being shown before
Were they chanting "Florida" or "Fall and Die" LOL
They were chanting "FOLTER! FOLTER! Translating to "TORMENT! TORMENT!" Or "TORTURE! TORTURE!" Or in rare cases "DEATH!"
Thanks haha
No problem
Fort- da meaning leave in German. Telling her to go.
Kitty Flare 4Chan.
I love how a remix of the op is playing in the background at the beginning of this scene
This dub is great and this movie is brilliant. That’s all I have to say.
I know they're saying Fort da but after awhile I couldn't help but hear Torta like "Noooo! Mi Tortaaaa!" xD
xWinterWolfx7 GRACIAS!!! Ahora no podré escuchar esa parte bien nunca mas xD
Ok my theory behind this is that after madoka sacrificed herself and became the god of the next world, homura grieved for years knowing all of her friends died and thus her sould gem turned into a greif seed and thus she created a alternate reality where madoka exists and the witches never existed
It's the first time to hear a good dub
i did not hear it, for the LAST TIME
Cowboy Beebop, Kaguya sama and FMA have also good dubs.
2:36 celeste's execution in a nutshell
lillian studios wOw tHanKs fOr tHat nOw im cRyiNg eVen mOre:>
But it's a city instead of a cross sacrifice thingy
Ooooo
I'm assuming its the Clara dolls saying fort da
Also that one Clara doll at 2:57
It's true i'm not a magical girl anymore.....
WHEN THIT I... BECOME A WITCH?????!????!?
I love this part of homura the destruction and all
*hears the BGM in the Dance game *..... That's connect right there
The weird ass puppet things chanting is German for, " God is dead."
Erin Phoenix that’s in an earlier scene, they’re chanting something different here.
@@perfectnamesdontexist he isnt wrong tbh.. in the german dub they actualy DO chant God is dead in german in this scene as well
OH MY LORD HOMURA IS HOMULILLY
So the Mitakihara city was Homura's labyrinth
Ok, I really need to rewatch this movie. Ugh, I forgot how good it is!!
As much to say it’s sad that homada almost died and never got to make her wish come true
...
Saving madkoa
Ikr I’m glad she got to fulfill her wish in the end
No one:
My vision when I’m in the dark: 2:13
Ok but unpopular opinion. The Clara dolls are kinda cute
NO THEY ARE SCARY
I imagine the Clara dolls are saying “Fort-Nite!”
Lol, I can imagine fortnite colab with clara dolls. Would be an insta buy.
By the way few years ago, someone told me they are saying "Florida" :D
Homura did nothing wrong!
Daniel Martínez yes she did. She kept going back in time. It's her fault she became a witch. Her wish came with a price.
Hapito show the girl some sympathy she already knows she's the witch you don't need to rub it in
I mean....she kinda did....doesn't mean we can't feel bad for her, because we all do.....
@@teeveeee I can't exactly feel bad for a full blown yandere. Just because she's cuter doesn't mean she wasn't just an obsessed girl ready to kill anyone for Madoka.
She did tons of things wrong, she made mistakes. She’s human. Her actions were given consequence. She isn’t a good person.
All though, this doesn’t mean she’s a bad person, she’s a selfish person. That also doesn’t mean she doesn’t deserve forgiveness, because she does. She needs a mother like figure, somebody to cry to, she latched on to Madoka and fell in love with her in every way (sisterly, platonically, romantically, daughterly, etc)
So yes, Homura did do things wrong, but she deserves forgiveness. She dug her own grave for somebody and her actions became useless, and was buried in grief. Her actions were justified, but not right. Homura’s actions are justified is probably what you meant.
a better title would be "homura realizes shes a witch"
yeah but she realizes she TURNED into a witch,why is everyone thinking that SHE IS THE BAD ONE???
SHEESH WHY DO PEOPLE ACT LIKE HOMURA IS THAT BAD?
PLEASE,EVEN THOUGH I HAVEN'T WATCHED THE MOVIE,I KNOW THE PLOT. SHE BASICALLY STEALS SOME OF MADOKA's POWER TO MAKE A NEW YOU KNOW WHAT!
@@notauser4681 thats sounds bad when you put it that way you know-
The art is so beautiful 😊 thank you shaft
3:40 part of sayaka's witch theme is here! i guess it fits
Watch Madoka Magica they said. It'll be cute they said. Its a nice break from watching dread and death filled animes THEY SAID
HAHA
in terms of the three strongest witches in order in madoka magica it is
1.gretchen
2.Homulily
3.walpurgisnacht
yes homulily is way more dangerous that walpurgisnacht look at the pure numbers of servants and then there is the clara dolls which could probably beat walpurgisnacht just on their own
even if it was homulilly vs walpurgisnacht of how much destruction they can cause in a certain amount of time homulilly's hand ribbons are much more destructive and unpredictable you can even see this when homura realizes she is a witch you can see meteors and things blowing up just by her finding out and look at how many kyubeys her servants killed kyubey is pretty agile so for her servants to outspeed him by just running themselves is scary due to if you have no magical girls who can doe aoe attacks then your pretty much screwed against her
dang it stopped at the best part
i was hoping to hear the theater of the witch bgm
the bridge where everything happens is also the bridge where homura is attacked for the first time in the series by a witch and where she meets and discovers that Madoka and Mami are magical girls
If you look up Homulilly’s wiki it says the Clara dolls are the children of the false city, is the false Mitakihara city the false city the wiki is talking about?
I love that remix of connect !!
When u take a bus at the first day at school after realizing the vacation was over:
4:09 2nd girl really said "and 1 0pp hehehehe!"
2:54
Flori-DA
Flori-DA
I fucking love this movie so much! Homura is best girl!
Same! And Indeed!!!