Homura turns into a witch
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- Опубликовано: 30 мар 2014
- In Homura's final epiphany, Madoka steps on their twin chairs and takes the position of Christ in the cross (i.e. the god that made the ultimate self-sacrifice of taking the burden of everyone's faults), only to fall comically and dissolve into nothing as a symbol of the uselessness of it all. At the sight of this, Homura fully realizes her own failure as her guardian, curses herself and falls into despair.
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People are misunderstanding homura's calmness in this scene. Her worst nightmare isn't any active pain or event, it's forgetting about madoka. Why would you cry about something you don't remember? You can't remember it. But to homura this is the worst thing to happen to her, she's the only one that can remember madoka and her starting to forget the face of the person she loved was likely what turned her into a witch in the first place.
Likely.
There were also an arc before rebellion, following the main story (in manga), where Homura was basically having a mental breakdown bc Madoka "wasn’t real".
Basically, in the manga Homura began to lose sight of herself. She began to think that her memories of Madoka were fabricated by herself, doubting her own motivation. After all, why did she became a magical girl? Why did she throw away her normal life for this? To suffer endlessly in fight for nothing? Her only salvation which was Madoka in the main story didn’t even exist in this new world.Even kuybey couldn’t tell her what her wish was for. Her magic which was time manipulation was replaced by memory manipulation, so maybe she even create this imaginary friend to confort herself. Without "Madoka" to exist Homura was so miserable, it was always for and because of Madoka sake, that Homura could even fight.
So for her despair to be her forgetting Madoka is akin to saying "oh you didn’t actually suffer for anyone,all this pain and suffering was for nothing".
@@shay1760 That was so deprasing. But if she forget about madoka then why she created homuraverse for Madoka? That doesnt make sense. Manga has additional story outside of anime and movies?
@@msu7777she didn't forgot about Madoka, she was just doubting the memories of her, as her power in the new timeline after Madoka reset the universe was memory manipulation instead of time manipulation
The whole concept of Homura's labrynth is depressing, she's trapped in her own funeral procession, and all the people attending hate her.
+Strident△Callisto WTF HOW DO YOU KNOW
omg. this sheds a new light on this animel
+12321 Sounds like my life.
@Alan Barbosa that can be arranged, wanna make a contract?
Not a single part of this resembles a funeral. I think you've managed to completely misinterpret what you're seeing.
:(
Well, this is what happens when you have to watch all your friends die for twelve years in a constant loop every month and a half without not being able to do anything. Which is why I feel deeply sorry for Homura
how do you know it was 12 years?
EmiC7227 If you search up how many times she went back in time you'll figure out she went through 100 timelines and if you add them up using math it approximates to 12 years
holy crap, poor homura :(
Homura doesn't care about any other girls except for Madoka. I doubt they consider them her friends. She tells Sayaka outright that she doesn't care, Sayaka sees right through her as well. She becomes obsessed with Madoka, seeing Madoka dies is what set Homura off, not any of the other girls.
She does care about them, she even says earlier in the movie that she felt unhappy around Mami just because she was so kind and it felt so cruel to tell her the truth, because she acted the strongest but had the softest heart of all of them -- She does care it's just that she can't be as attached to them as she is Madoka, because they're not necessarily part of her main goal.
Being Homura is suffering.
I CHOKED ON MY DRINK
Jack Arnold being hameru is suffering
jack arnold and so is the ability to turn into a bird to raven.
More like the biggest headace of all time.
@@Itz_ElectroLite heh, time
If you think about it, Homura never really comes back from this transformation. She still looks like a magical girl, sure, but i don't think she ever stopped being a Witch after this, since the underlying feelings that caused this transformation never went away, and her Soul Gem only gets darker after this. In fact, she still has a labyrinth after this as well, since it's explicitly shown that her labyrinth has grown so big that it encompasses the universe itself, and that's how she's able to rewrite the laws of the universe. She's basically the ultimate witch to contrast Madoka becoming the ultimate magical girl.
that made me cry the double
Or, as she describes it, she is a demon on contrast with Madokami that is a goddess
@@izzyyyyy8998 she is an advanced witch now! :'D
I agree, and she still has the same curses or familiars that follow her. Hell they even throw a tomato in her face, representing that ultimately Homura hates herself, or that's how I saw it.
@@escapetherace1943 I think thats correct, and I think it helps further contrast the two that Homura acted out of selfish love and self-hate after Madoka acted out of selflessness and love for all life. Madoka understood the value of her life when weighed against the world, while Homura simply didn't care about the value of hers as long as Madoka had one.
No screaming. No crying. No laughing maniacally. No lashing out mindlessly. There's nothing but calm acceptance that this is how it has to be. How very appropriate, since the choice to become a witch to keep Madoka safe wasn't even a choice at all; it just came naturally.
But when the door closed on Madoka (oh the symbolism relating to The Window the second time through the movie), that was when I finally cried.
Evertide05 Did you miss the first couple of minutes? She expelled all her anger and anguish at that point
Damian Freeman I was more referring to after that, when we see her from outside what's going on in her head (heart? soul?), but I guess I wasn't clear, was I?
And also I just noticed TheMagicRainbowGaming put it a lot better than I did.
She can't really do anything anyway she even said herself she doesn't remember much after becoming a witch and that she can only feel guilty and regret after transforming her only concept of madoka is that she was something that made her happy.
Evertide05 What about her sash that was clawing through the ground trying to pull away from the whole thing?
I HAVEN'T WATCHED THE MOVIE,DO YOU GUYS RECOMEND IT TO ME?
You know... Out of all the witches in Puella Magi Madoka Magica, Homura/Homulilly is the only one that ACTUALLY looks like a witch...
+Laura Seaweed Have you ever tried to look at Walpurgis Night up-side down?
Oh, nope. I never thought to do that! XD
I will. :)
+Laura Seaweed
Laura, why you everywhere?
Dragonfeathers Shirokaze No, the question is how do you always find me?
Laura Seaweed Epic stalker skills.
I quite enjoy this witch transformation, even though it is depressing, it's the only witch transformation that lets us see what a witch truely is. And most of all, nothing as heart wrenching as watching the true main protagonist fall to despair after trying ever so hard.
I kind of want another series that looks at the witches the Quintent fought back on Earth before they were Witches (like Charlotte, Gertrude...) and get an in-depth look into their changes too. It seriously fascinates me.
IceQueen975 Yeah, that would be really interesting.
+IceQueen975 It would mean a lot to me too if they did that with this series.
When you remember that in the manga madoka barely showed up
YEAH EVERYONE THINKS MADOKA IS THE PROTAGONIST NOT SO MUCH ANYMORE,HUH?!
If you stop for a moment, the calm music and tone of Homura's voice has a lot of meaning to it. Sayaka and Walpurgis Night are the only other witches to really do much besides laugh, and they both have nightmarish screams of agony, suddenly delving into madness and losing all hope. Homura, on the other hand, quietly accepts her becoming a witch, and doesn't even cry about it. This shows that she is already in that much pain, and used to it. She's seen Madoka die and experienced her despair so often that as a witch she is only experiencing what her life was like. This also shows a strength in her character, as most magical girls give into their despair as soon as it comes, becoming witches. Homura, on the other hand, took this despair and turned it into a determination, explaining why she did not become a witch any given point in which she experienced her own living hell.
Just something that makes this sadder than it already is.
It was more the Incubator's little Witch Egg--the Soul Gem--went bad with Madoka's inhibition of it hatching. The metaphor of Magical Girls becoming Witches breaks down here...
But it turns out, that apparently, Homura was stuck in the process of turning into a witch--but not being able to for long enough... the Incubators accidentally made something far more powerful than a Witch.
And considering the warlike capacities of the Incubators and the general machinations they have for conquering the universe... the fact they accidentally destroyed themselves on one of their planets of conquest with Homura... is noteworthy on several levels.
Well when Homura took a piece of Madoka and became a deity Kyubei had no idea about how didn't she turned into a witch entirely again.
Homura said that it is because of her love for Madoka.
"But how??? Love is such a positive and full good emotion. How didn't it purified her of sinful emotions like in the book?" you ask?
Love is indeed grant a lot of strenght, happiness and can turn bad people into good people... but it is also a source of darkness and corruption. Love can twist the mind and taint the heart.
Love is truly the most fearsome trait of living beings.
Thinking about it the other half-witches are feeling love for someone. Sayaka said that she came back from death because she regretted leaving Kyoko behind and Bebe shown love for Mami.
Despair about falling to despair......how scary
badaaasss
we actually see her "crying" teeth later on which is interesting to note :0 but yeah she just takes it
The ties in her mouth symbolized how difficult it was for her to have the knowledge of innumerable timelines and still have to keep all that suffering to herself. She saying anything is itself a trigger for things to spiral out of control.
She did told her friends in a previous timeline, they didn't really believe her, and then when they got proof it went ugly so she doesn't say anything after that one.
she had herself completely restrained as she now sees herself as completely responsible for all of the misfortune she believes shes put madoka through, as well as the fact that homura mentioning madoka to kyubey is what caused all of this in the first place. Her power was time, but it perpetuated all of her problems, as a witch all she could hope to do is stop (hence the restrained execution)
Whoever decided on the idea of the nutcracker witch though is a genius, Homulilly's design is fucking great.
That's Gekidan Inu Curry for you. A duo of genius animators. Props to both of those brilliant men.
Her witch's hat is a vinil record. It represented her running in circles trying to protect Madoka. When she gave up on ever seeing her again and dying, it fell off.
TF I JUST SAW THAT TOO OMFG
tommyinnit
why
why did i say that
OH MY GOD
This is a surprisingly accurate description of depression.
It really is which is kinda scary 😅
Unfortunately very true
and suicidal ideation too.
And each girl is one of the 5 stages of grief. Homora is Denial, Madoka is Acceptance, Kyoko is Anger, Saiyaka is Depression, and Mami is Bargaining
ShadowSkyX
*homura
* sayaka
Sorry I just had to.
The gecko that splattered in the end is probably based on a Yokai type which are human souls manifesting as geckos. It makes things much more tragic when you realize it's a metaphor to Homura's soul being destroyed by her despair. :'(
That's pretty sad, but did you know that the red spider lilies that were on her head, mean to be forgotten or abandoned and never to meet again...
Unrustle your jimmies That's even more sad. :'(
I always thought it might be a salamander shown in this scene. Salamanders are often associated with fire in Western literature and legends. As is Homura herself, as her very name roughly means 'flame' when written in Kanji.
+O.R. Studios It looked much more like people turning into LCL as a reference from the movie End of Evangelion.
+Unrustle your jimmies Yup, that could be why her witch name is Homulily!
Anybody who can watch this yet still feel no empathy for Homura officially has the emotional capacity of an incubator.
+The One Who Knocks I think it's actually the opposite. She endured so much that it destroyed her. By the end of the movie, she pushed doubt and regret aside since she believed her actions were right, she fulfilled her promise, Madoka is safe, but all that resulted in extreme loneliness. She lost everyone she could share her thoughts and feelings with. It's not that she doesn't feel anything, she has all sorts of feelings but she keeps bottling them up inside her and it only looks like she's emotionless.
Aska2468 ...?
I think you missed or misread the first part of my comment. I wasn't intending to accuse Homura of being apathetic and without emotion. Rather, I was accusing those who hate her or demonize her for her actions in Rebellion of possessing such qualities.
Apologies if the way I worded my comment misled you.
The One Who Knocks Oh, I did indeed misread it. I thought you meant that Homura has the emotional capacity of an incubator.
I'm sorry for my accusations. I feel really stupid now.
+The One Who Knocks This makes me feel like my life is a lie. Holy shit...
+Miles Edgelord Unless that incubator is mentally ill with that special disease called, "emotions".
I just noticed something really cool about Homulilly’s design. Before her head splits apart, we see that her witch hat resembles a record player 0:50. But then the record breaks.
Now going back to Homura’s backstory, we see that she repeated the same thing over and over and over again. And what do you call something that constantly repeats?
A broken record.
Holy shit
Unintentional joke there. I don't know whether to laugh or cry right now.
And all it takes is one little skip and the music ends. Repetition without function or progress.
Genius
Oh my god
Somehow I really love the chair scene. It's such a bright contrast to the rest at that moment.
I'm not even sure why, but I found that to be the most eerie and disturbing part of the movie... I'm getting chills just thinking about it XD I'd say that I really love it, too, though, because it has such a strange atmosphere that completely contradicts what is happening
Gutzahn the chair scene is jarring because it puts the girls into that little cuddling scene in the theme song, but it has Madoka stand up and look at Homura like "You did this" and then fall and splat on the ground as Homura tries to save her, then giving us a bigger Homura quite literally getting rid of the timeline, but the bright contrasting background doesn't change a bit.
The giant Homura's in the background are fucking creepy af to be fair
Those giant Homuras give me the chills every single time I watch the scene. For some reason I find it to be one of the most disturbing things I have seen.
Judah Osboja, Actually, I think it's about how stupid Homura thinks that she is wanting to be able to be with Madoka again, as well as her finally giving up on ever being able to see Madoka again. Kind of like how of the the "doll" child that they chose to be on the boat in the scene where Madoka meets Homura after the fight with Mami is "stupidity". This is why Homura smashes herself when she is shocked and upset at Madoka disappearing; she is angry with herself for "being so stupid as to feel and think that way". She doesn't think that she deserves it because she doesn't think that she's a real person.
This is actually my favorite scene in the film despite how saddening it is. In the end Homura is basically going insane with sadness and I have to wonder how long she had been resetting timelines, possibly for years even. The chair scene is the most powerful to me, showing her immense frustration at how in the end she's failing to protect Madoka. She was so hell bent on defending her protector that she lost sight of what Madoka's sacrifice really meant. I kind of have to wonder what would have happened if things had ended differently.
+Ruby Red The creators stated that she resetted timlinel around 100 times x 1 month aproximmately = around 10 years of resetting.
Danny Skidmore Rebellion
@Sei Kyo but that madoka without knowing what entirely happen.
@Sei Kyo but she wasn’t alone. She was always there, just not psychically. Homura didn’t understand that though..
@@drugaming3788 Worth noting though, that even in the final timeline when Madoka ascends, she actually causes this because she left a piece of herself with Homura through the ribbons. Now, this was done under the guise of her hoping for a different outcome, and does imply some regret. Not regret that she made her sacrifice necessarily, but regret that she had no other choices available and had to leave Homura behind.
One of my favorite character archetypes.
Are ones who appear totally emotionless.
But, underneath the surface, are in more pain than you can possibly imagnie.
+Goatmon Yes.
Like Raven from the original version of the tv show teen titans
Me too :p . Because, I can see myself in them :p .
Goatmon
Homura:"Ey b0ss, habe u seen a Madoka plz?" *cries,then turns into a witch, then turns into Deviru*
I need more characters like this
Homura hates herself, just like Madoka does and it manifests in different ways in both of them. Madoka thinks she is a coward, a burden to the people she loves, a person who has no worth. That's why she clings to the idea of being a magical girl. She thinks the only way she can be worth anything is saving people. In the end she sacrifices herself. Everyone forgets her, she is alone, she will never be loved, she will take all the burden and be worthy. She literally commits suicide. It's the most selfless thing a person could do.
Homura, on the other hand, saw herself as a person with no worth. (She still does) She is weak, the smallest physical activity is hard, she missed so much school, she is alone in this world. Madoka gives her that acceptance she desperately needed and craved. When she makes her wish she doesen't wish the walpurgis night to dissapear or Madoka to come back. She wishes to be the protector. She tries to save Madoka so many times that she loses sight of her goal. She loses herself. Just like in real life, doing something again and again and again makes you forget what made you do that thing in the first place. When Madoka sacrifices herself Homura knows how miserable Madoka will be. So she rebels. She is selfish. In the chair scene, she squishes herself out of frustration. Her old self is towering over her, judging her for not being able to save Madoka.
AND BOTH OF THEM ARE IN THE WRONG. They needed to love themselves first. It's how i felt going through puberty. I wished there was a magical way to make me love myself, make me succsessful and worthy. I desperately wanted everyone to see me and approve of me. Life doesen't work like that. I have to work hard and i have to accept the fact that i will have bad days and good days. I have to love myself first before helping others.
That's what i got out of this series. Maybe the people who made this movie had a completely different message in mind. Maybe i'm overanalyzing it. Or they totally intended this to be the message. I don't know. Humans are weird.
This deserves more like
I wonder what kind of development this idea will get in the next movie? Maybe... Will the end of suffering finally come?
ohhhhh thats a super interesting way to interpret the series!!!
Youre definitely right. There's even a quick frame with the cryptograms that shows up during homura's magical girl transformation earlier in the movie that translate to "i kill myself"
@@YoungSavage which movie also when exactly?
So is that how all witches are. They know what they're doing the whole time but all thier emtions cloud their judgment or what
I'd say they're basically gone 'crazy', meaning out of control over themselves. What sort of memories and (self)consciousness they keep seems to vary and Homu is a special case anyway.
I don't think they fully know. There's one small part that's still aware deep inside but they don't have the power to do anything. It's like extreme schizophrenia and depression.
We don't really know because Homura is a special case because of how she became a witch. Plus she technically forced her transformation as well so I want to say that Homura is the only one who can do this for the most part.
Still, until we can see into the mind of another witch's transformation process and see if she has somewhat control over her consciousness, we won't know how regular this is or isn't.
Well, Homura did not completely turn into a witch; the curse was still inside of her soul gem. Also, it was not grief that turned her soul gem black but love so she is a unique case.
On Bebe's witch card, it says that Mami reminds her of someone she met in a nightmare. So, you know how when you're having a bad dream, you can see yourself doing things, but you have no control over it, and everything's just one big, frightening blur? Maybe that's what it's like to be a witch. Just a theory.
1:48 まどか こんな所まで迎えに来てくれてありがとう
↑しんどい
That whole part of in the chairs summarizes on Homura's feelings throughout the series. All she wanted was for Madoka to be happy, but the latter's tendency to sacrifice herself kept that from happening. Homura smashing her smaller self reflects on her self-loathing towards having failed to make Madoka happy.
This 2 minutes is pure torture
I hate you... *Leaves the door and screams in pure hell*
I honestly like that the witches aren’t portrayed like evil monsters like normal Magical Girl animes and more like concepts, places, and strong emotions. Homura is no different, even with a picture of Madoka locked away in part of her labyrinth. Overall, really creative and a little existential or Lovecraftian
That picture not quite looking like homura and being locked away represents her greatest fear and hell: Forgetting Madoka.
Homura's wish is: 'I want to protect Madoka instead of Madoka protecting me'. ...I don't know if people actually realize or think about the wording of wishes in this series but it is extremely important and reveals the existential horror that Homura created for herself.
Homura is bound by her own wish-- we see this one time when homura is going back in time (I think it's a scene from an intro/outro?): in front of a giant gear with a roman numeral clock etched into it, Homura's tied up with threads, stretched in the position of christ, but she is slumped over in defeat. She is unable to do anything else until her wish is 'fulfilled' in her eyes. She's unable to become a witch, she's unable to die, and it's starting to look like it has mentally affected her-- it's just harder to see because of all the other trauma associated with going back in time through the same month for twelve years to watch all your friends die over and over, oh and you're all like 14. Madoka shooting Mami with her bow after she killed Kyoko and tied up Homura was what fate dictated because if Homura had died then she can't protect Madoka, wish being unfulfilled. Homura is forced into this giant hamster wheel that she herself created, and she can't get off.
In short, Rebellion made total sense to me, I have no clue why everyone was confused by what Homura did. It was literally the only logical course of action to her, in her eyes. She's a bit crazy, y'know?
This is the main reason I think Homura could even do what she did to Godoka at the end of Rebellion. Homura in the new universe after the TV series ended never actually had time powers. Instead, Homura had a black bow in contrast to Madoka's bow of light. If you keep in mind a Puella Magi's powers tend to be connected to their wish and nature, then Homura wish in the new universe was always destined to make her into Madoka's antithesis.
@@903IDFOLEY Homura doesn't actually have different powers in the new universe! She could only ever stop time between her leaving the hospital and the time Madoka died in her original timeline. That's why she lost the ability to stop time when her fight against Walpurgisnacht dragged on too long. That timeframe is both in the past and in a different universe, so she can't stop time.
Likewise, she always had magic abilities like the other girls. We see her use them against Walpurgisnacht! She just avoided using them so she didn't drain her magic / corrupt her soul gem. Stopping time didn't drain her magic because it's wish hax.
Homura in the new universe is the same Homura from the old universe, with the same wish and the same powers.
the conversation in the flower patch with madoka after homura's fight with mami felt like the most blaring red flag i ever saw wrt to homura doing something to try and change madoka's fate, and it was so confusing to me when people were like 'how could homura do this???' afterwards.
like buddy she thinks that madoka is trapped alone in magical girl hell instead of magical girl valhalla with every magical girl who has ever died (which admittedly is a headcanon of mine but if she was truly alone, how was she able to trust sayaka and nagisa with her memories to begin with?). is it any wonder she'd try to save madoka from that?
the REAL question is, are the pieces of a person that she tore from godoka enough to truly be considered 'madoka', or just all the parts that homura liked assembled into a madoka shaped blob? where are her flaws, her personality traits and emotions innate to every human that homura might not have cared to keep? where is everything about her that homura didn't know about, and how does that, with its god powers, feel about losing everything homura took?
homura might be parading herself around as a demon, but i think something far worse is lurking just outside that barrier, and its name is also 'madoka'.
It's more than that. "I wish to redo our first meeting, and be the one to protect her." That set the limit of her rewind (the day she met Madoka), and is why her powers break and her Witchform is so terrible in Madoka's new world. Because she can no longer bring her wish to finality, as she cannot ever meet Madoka for the first time (as Madoka exists in all places everywhere at once). By a combination of her wish, which granted Madoka the karmic power needed to ascend, and Madoka's wish, which rewrote the universe to make Homura's wish impossible, Homura became a paradox, which is how she is able to be a Witch in a world where no Witches are born. This in turn paradoxes Madoka, as she wished to destroy every witch before it's creation.
Whats even sadder is how she just... accepted it. No dramatic "i will fight!". She basically does something worst than suicide. Damn Homura, hopefully in the 4th movie you get some hugs girl because damn.
I cried so much at this part. Music.... Her suffering, art.... It's all just so beautiful. This anime is such a masterpeace, I can't get enough of it.
The last line gets me every time! I can’t even! 😭😭
I love that they stick to the color themes for the characters. Pink feels like such a pure and unbothered color, while purple feels like the depressed and edgy cousin of pink.
まどマギの世界感やっぱりいいね
まどか落ちた後の変身シーンの演出は鳥肌だったなあ
This anime is seriously the best anime I've ever EVER seen, and that is saying something because I've seen a lot. I really do not believe there will ever be anything in my life quite like this. It is so deep. The story, the art, the music, the effects-- everything. This scene, I feel, most accurately represents the depths of a person's mind. It's just so hard to explain. Usually it's very hard to accurately represent what is happening deep down in the depths and subconsciousness of someone's mind but this did it. It made me feel despair, hopelessness-- everything that Homura felt. It took me to a world I've never been-- it took me into her mind. I don't think I've ever experienced something like that before. This anime is definitely worth watching over and over.
I watched 5 out of those 7 anime you listed and they were great I loved them. Those were definitely thought provoking as well.
herpin derpin which anime?
One anime similar to Madoka Magica is "Black rock shooter". It may sound stupid and I thought so too but it's not that sad but it's really good. It involves fighting and emotion through the characters and shows what each character is going through. I recommend it to anyone who hasn't watched it.
「あぁ、これが私の絶望。」
"Ah, kore ga watashi no zetsubou"
gets me every time :(
このシーンの世界観大好き
こんな恐ろしく怖くそして美しい世界感のアニメがあったのか…
もう６年前なのね…
@@user-wo9om2ec4v 不朽の名作ってヤツですぜまどマギは
@@user-de1mj9uj4c
うん。エポックメイキングだった｡
Rebellion is a masterpiece. I have no other words for it, I have no synonyms, I have no exaggerated paragraphs to write, it's a masterpiece through and through. Art, music, pacing, story, acting, symbolism, emotional power - it's a masterpiece. What else am I supposed to say ? It might just be a peak for this whole century and we wouldn't yet know.
ほむらが拳を叩きつけるシーン、辛くて見てらんない…
さやかやまどかもこうして魔女になったのかなって思うとあああ
自分を叩き潰したいくらい
の激情..か
Puella Magi Madoka Magica is genius. It gives me an escape. I'm truly falling into madness.
Kawaii Muncher same. It kinda makes me feel happy about my self
If anyone watched the concept trailer and is watching this. In the end of the scene at 1:58 there is a lizard.
In the trailer it states how there was a lizard girl who split God into half.
This is especially symbolic in the bible. Lizards are symbolic of a familiar spirit. A lizard may represent to regenerate what is lost. To move on to face fears and through realities. And at 2:10 the lizard literally couldnt mantain it's form anymore. (Because this is another form of despair)
BUT in the concept trailer, it shows how Homura is still called a lizard girl. Because by spliting God (Madoka) she found her form and purpose again.
There is also a possibility that Homura being a lizard is her leaving pieces of herself in different timelines. Like how a lizard drops it's tail and losses it's mass.
I thought that the way the writers managed to tie this in was really interesting. And his was something the fandom missed out.
They were great about using lesser known or forgotten old stories to illustrate points.
Case in point- When Mami teases Bebe and tells her to be careful or she'll turn into cheese, Bebe runs around in panic and her word... Picture things show tigers running in a circle, a jar of ghee (unclarified butter), then a stack of pancakes with butter and syrup on them, which is a reference to a tale about a boy that was being chased by a pack of tigers and only escaped them by climbing a tree. This frustrated the tigers, who began to circle the tree, waiting for the boy to come down, but the sun was so hot it eventually melted them into butter, which the boy then collected in a jar and took home to his family.
THIS SCENE OH MY GOD-
Why am I torturing myself.
T.T
:'((((((
lolo
I saw you in every Madoka magica video i have seen
Including this one
My name is Marc Notice Me!!! I defeat Brazilian Night
Hameru is cool
Maduka is beauty
最高のシーンのひとつ。斎藤千和さん、声優辞めないでくれて良かった！
まどかのためだけに頑張ってたのにそれを分かってもらえないし、報われないのつらいなぁ、、、
ほむらが頑張ってた記憶は今のまどかにはないし、、
No matter how much I was this, I always cry. It's just too depressing.
Its okay. Go to 0:32. Slendermura will calm you :)
Rose Mitchell gay. You obviously won't get far in life
+Alolan Gloom said the guy telling other random people in yt comments that they won't get far in life because they're comfortable expressing their emotions.
seriously, what's wrong with you
@@alolangloom cringe
This is the best scene in the movie IMO, Homura is finally dealing with the feeling that she tried to fight against for so long and she greets It with so much grace
My God this movie is loaded with despair. This scene. ..you can feel the pain in the music, the visuals, the words, the voice, and the awesome effect on the voice. It's all so perfect.
This is probably one of the most depressing fate a character have ever received.
All Homura ever wanted was protect Madoka, she worked so hard to do so. She tried again, and again, and again, and again, and even more, just for that to result in Madoka having full potential of becoming the strongest Magical Girl in the world.
Homura tried, and tried just for Madoka to give in to the world and sacrifice herself. Homura is trapped in her labyrinth, full of greed, hatred, depression, misery, selflessness, and suffering. She wanted to be with Madoka one last time.
Instead she is trapped inside the fantasy for a moment, with Madoka one last time; just for Madoka to disappear.
This results in Homura flinging herself off a building, and at the end of that clip you can see a door tied shut with the ribbon Madoka gave Homura.
輝きと後悔だけしかもう思い出せないって悲しすぎる......
I love how madoka scence is so psychological and epic at the same time It's scary that all the nonsense have meaning inside it just like a dream
Oh shit.
I've returned to this scene almost a decade later and it still crashes me emotionally.
Because it's animated and directed like that, it's incredibly powerful.
Homura's pov shows us what witches see as they turn. It's shown that all magical girls watch their biggest mistakes happen over and over again. They're in hell.
In the vision, Homura wakes up with Madoka in heaven. The time she and Madoka spent was pure bliss for this worthless girl.
She sees Madoka standing on her chair. Madoka takes a position like Christ or like a bird (angel) that's about to take off. Homura tries saving her, she does everything, she even sheds her weakness like a gecko, but it's over. Madoka is dead. Four (the number of death in Japan) past Homuras look down on her. She's a complete failure.
She affirms her worthlessness and her suicidal ideation. She smashes herself into a fine paste.
At the epilogue she throws herself the same way as she sees Madoka did.
Madoka's true face isn't shown here. Representing Homura forgetting madoka which is one of homura's greatest fears and is likely what turned her into a witch in the first place. She's the only one who remembers her so she has no photo's or anyone to reaffirm if madoka ever exsisted.
it's not the type of despair you fight against, nor the one where you
scream and lash out as you adamantly try to go against it. It's the despair
that engulfs you as you realize you can't do anything, that there's nothing
you ca can do to stop it, and you give up... You've already lost all hope.
You can't even cry, you're beyond crying. All you can do is watch as
everything falls apart...
by itsJazz
I wear contacts, and all I ever have to do when my eyes are getting dry is watch a clip from this show. Works every time.
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this is some trippy shit
0:35 until that point I had forgotten what magical girls really are, children. Homura is in the end nothing but a selfish little kid yelling at forces beyond her control... A kid that lost her only friend... a child that on the inside is always screaming "please, take me instead, its not fair, it should have been me"...
umm.. It's kinda complicate in my view. I think everybody have the 'kid' inside them. People have that side which it's not always good or bad. In this chair scene, I think it focuses on her weakness "I can't protect her". And then, she is the type of person who will not forgive such weakness. That's why she punished herself with her fist.
(sorry if my english is not good.)
Lets stop calling it the "kid" and start calling it the "Id"(Freudian humor).
Back to watch it again :D (this scene is certainly awesome)
I'm so happy that you replied. yeah, if we refer it as "Id" then our understanding might be matched up better. Everyone have Id. Homura have Id. Even though she is a child or not (but actually she is not merely a 14 years old girl anymore), I really think she have the dark side (and it makes her to become very interesting). However, it was not just that Id influenced her but also super-ego and ego. All the things inside her made her to be her own self. In the first place, her true objective didn't sound like "Madoka choose her" but quite "Madoka's happiness". What she wanted was Madoka choose to live normally in the world (someone can think if she choose to be with her in the world, it means she choose her. But actually, Madoka's happiness just includes Homura and everyone). So, to make her able to choose this impossible choice, she created the choice and chose (to be a bad person) for her by altering the universe. That's why she is so stubborn, greedy, and awesome in the same time (she possibly want the happiness for both Madoka and herself. If she can, she will not allow anyone to be a sacrifice. But the world doesn't work like that. So, she dedicated herself for creating that impossible world. Still, Homura practically become a sacrifice in that silver garden). Instead of accepting the truth, she changed it with her own hands (this is the point why people think she is still a child. yes, she is obsessed with all the things
FMA reference... you deserve a thumbs up
***** No matter she lived the same month a hundred times, she's still only 14. She hasn't grown up, she's just experienced the same time over and over again. She won't allow herself to grow beyond learning from her last failure.
I love that in her witch form she has a witch hat (at least at first) she's the ultimate witch. The witch of all witches. Her labyrinth is so expansive it swallow the universe and rewrites the world. The one true witch
So the first time I saw this, my eyes were kind of glued to my screen and I was glued to my own couch...I didn't even cry, I was just feeling exactly like Homura, horrified and confused and hurt. So much sympathy/empathy it's amazing.
Oh...and this scene was audiovisually stunning. Truly, being a witch is nothing to prefer over death. The End of Evangelion reference/homage (oh you know the one) didn't help me either. It basically added more nostalgia to the pain and anguish I was already feeling...which the same scene its referencing also gave me its fair share of when I originally watched that other audiovisually brilliant and horrifying anime film masterpiece. :P
All in all, this movie was just amazing in every single way.
ApocalypticMagicalBarty which is the Eva reference?
I found it interesting how when she's first seen as a witch, she has her mouth covered. She would have had to have worn that willingly, as she chose to shut her mouth when explaining to her friends the imminent threat, as it had always made things worse when she talked about the future. Another thing is after getting her top part cut off, there only remains the lower jaw, her mouth posed to speak, but unable to describe her own despair. Before the lilies bloomed over where her eyes would be, she didn't have any, as she could no longer look ahead to the future; afterwards, the lilies bloomed and she could only think and look towards her death. Lastly, she has ears after she stomps on the recording hat, where she could hear her despair as she used to listen to her friends endless death before, but now that she is chained and pulled by the bloody cycle she lived, she can only listen and further despair.
This scene is one of the heaviest thing I've ever seen portrayed in the media so far. Why not many people are talking about this movie? It's the most beautiful portrayal of insanity despair ever made in fiction.
This was the most emotional moment in the movie and the whole series for me, seeing all the pain and sacrifices she went through and she still accepted her fate just to protect the wish of her best friendeven if she cannot see her again as she promised.
as much as i hate to see homura suffering, this is definitely one of my favourite parts. it really says a lot about her character.
It's just like Sayaka said in the dub, "She looks horrible, but she's the one who's suffering here." It's terrible for our smol Homu-chan to go through this. 😭😭😭😭😭
In the end, nothing changed. She just prolonged the inevitable. She still wound up having to say goodbye to her best friend, leaving behind only memories for her to live with. Now, it's all she'll ever have.
I keep rewatching this scene...what is the name of the soundtrack when Homura was turning into a witch?
"This is my despair"
Indeed her despair....
"Flame of Dispair"
Remember okabe did the fucking 3000 times
Kawaii Potato That plays in the scene where Homura is realizing she’s inside her own labyrinth, not while she turns into a witch.
And i already thought that watching the original series showed enough of how horrifyingly depressing is the existence of witches, rebellion decided to add salt to the wound by doing it with my second favorite girl
do you know when they showed this scene??
@@jackisawyer8977 during the third movie, right after when the truth is revealed about the witch barrier not being from the suspected charlotte, but from homura.
This scene make me cry...every single time...THE DESPAIR LEVEL IS TOO DAMN HIGH!!!
upupupupupupupupupupupu
madoka
madoka
coming to this place
this kind of place
just to meet me
for my sake
thank
you
i can't even say good bye to you for the last time
i'm sorry
;-; ugh, i can't handle all these feels ;-;
The lesbianic angst is giving me a boner lolo
jk
To me it’s quite like how depression might feel like. Being trapped in negative thoughts and emotions and isolated from everything else.
"Kore ga...watashi no....
Zetsubo"
The symbolism of this is intense. It just elevates this scene to a whole new level of sadness. I really love how how this scene portrays Homura's despair and how she has just given up. Fuck what a good scene.
This scene is one of my favorites in the series, it's so depressing yet fascinating to me. The part that especially stands out to me is the one where Homura and Madoka sit together and Madoka falls off her chair into nothing as Homura fails to rescue her, leaving Homura alone with four elongated figures of herself looming over her. The stillness and surreality of the scene makes it even more emotional. If I ever need to make myself cry for whatever reason, I think of that scene.
0:21 Are You T-Posing Madoka?
I think so lol
It's referencing Jesus on the cross - uncannily similar to Madoka's fate
Akemi Homura has gone nuts.
+Kyubey Incubator This is YOUR fault
20419943002 Nope
NyanHeadPhones Madoka.
+Kyubey Incubator i agree with kyuubey if madoka did'nt leave Akemi wouldn't have utterly berserk since akemi held madoka close to her heart and well techinacly the only that makes her smile, an survive the day since madoka is gona her light of hope has disappeared thus became a witch. If kyubey didn't exist this world (madoka world) would be full of witches and we would all die, tbh its really his fault since his food is greef seeds. I dont think we would like it if he goes"OH U SHOULDNT EXIST CUZ U EAT COW" or veg etc.
+Kyubey Incubator I love how nobody got your pun.
It’s so hopelessly hopeful. Like being at peace in a beautiful toxicity of despair and loss of control. It’s also so so pretty. It’s interesting to wonder what other witches would be like if they were at the same level of madoka’s or homura’s witches.
0:26-0:27 I found it highly symbolic, how Homurra was willing to become, not only a magical girl, but the strong brave girl she was deep down just to save Madoka. And yet, 0:37 also represents how Homurra still feels small and helpless despite all her efforts to save her dearest friend.
I think it goes naturally with still not succeeding after 15 years (plus however long between now and the TV ending) of trying...
The people who are hating on Homura for what she did clearly does not understand what pain and suffering can do to someone.
Before you look how much pain she gets in those timelines look how messed up she did many things either it's wrong or not, I kinda like Homura's character people didn't realizes that she's actually the biggest mistakes to anything that's makes her anti-hero character. I know she had selfless love to do everything to Madoka but what she does isn't that good either of course she also have many selfish reasons to Madoka without recognizes it. I find her horrible actually but I like her
0:26 her reaching with the black swirls being left behind is in her transformation sequence earlier in the movie. Super interesting.
"So this is a witch"; this scene first made me realize being a witch is like succumbing to depression: most people who have never experienced that wouldn't understand your train of thoughts...except it's much worse with you having more destructive power, more resentment, much more pain, & being permanently transformed into such being the only way to release these emotions of despair & hatred from inside is to exert your power, the only remaining thing you have, & vent it on others. This is why I could never really bring myself to hate Homura coz by the end of these all her head's prolly been messed up beyond comprehension to the point she had to turn into the devil herself
damn i love all the symbolism, metaphors and references of graphics that they applied in this anime. IM SHOOK
If you think about it Homura was already on borrowed time anyway. All the time loops that she endured up to that point merely accelerated the inevitable. The fact that in Homura's mind she was doomed to bring about the end of humanity was just the final nail in the coffin.
Her entire survival depended on Madoka living, and ironically, while Madoka is willing to sacrifice herself for others, Homura is dedicated to sacrificing herself for Madoka. However, in the end, she fails because Madoka ensured that her wish could never be resolved by vanishing entirely. Not a surprise at all that she fell into despair shortly after.
You see a similar thing with how all of Sayaka's reasons for being a magical girl slowly being broken down (Getting the boy, protecting others, being a champion of justice) as well as Kyouko losing her family she was trying to defend ended up sending both into despair. The only difference being that Kyouko got saved at the last minute (in the Other Story).
It seems like for one reason or another, the wishes only have temporary results that always fold back in on themselves...
Not so very fun fact: Homulily is called a nutcracker witch as a reference to the play "the nutcracker" where when the nutcrackers mouth breaks due to overuse or something it can't fulfill it's purpose deeming it useless.
This can also be a reference to Homuras powers being overused until they break and become useless (due to Madoka becoming a goddess).
It can also reference Homura herself. Her only purpose was to save Madoka and after the last timeline she couldn’t do that as Madoka had become a concept. So, left with no purpose, Homura deems herself useless.
I think the ribbons on her witch form show how Homura was never able to tell Madoka how she really feels about her, forever tied up in her own regret. She has to stay silent for eternity, which I think also goes with how she's not screaming or crying. She's solemnly accepted her fate.
Is this... the transformation into a witch? How very intimate. I know other magical girls have turned into witches before but this feels a bit more inside their own mind.
このシーンめちゃくちゃ泣いた
今まで倒して来た魔女もこういう内面があると思うと改めてしんどい作品だわ【褒め言葉】
i really like how when she transforms into a witch there's this record on her head. i'm pretty sure it's meant to refer to all her timelines as a record on repeat. then when it's all over and she turns inti a witch, it falls off. the record stops playing on repeat because it's all done and she's yet another sacrifice to kyubey. herself (her emotions, the li'l homuras) bringing her to her death and she surrenders, hence the cuffs.
And mind you, she was trapped in her own emblem, not spreading outwards. She kept the curse to herself.
Homura doesn’t need therapy or a hug, she needs every single kind of mental help.
nah she needs that madokussy
A very well accurate depiction of anxiety and depression...
It first reminds you of the scene you regret the most then reminds you how you think you destroyed the point of view of the people about you and lastly you hate that past self of yours from doing the reminded scene, or in homura's case failing something that shouldnt be...
Sometimes in addition you feel like punishing yourself for doing it or just be deeply sad for a long time for doing it. It's an endless pain that will haunt you forever unless resolved in the right way that will relieve it which is very hard
It's like depression but animated.
I know this is a serious moment but Madoka going "well the simulation's over!" and T-Posing into the floor makes me giggle every time.
Fuck.. my heart aches for Homura-chan..
Me when I see all the flowers turns into spider lilies: nO NONONO NOT THAT FLOWER I CANT ACCEPT THIS ENDING PLS
jooliette 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
I love her new witches design… referencing back to the game as her witch in there and how she looked, but also creating a whole new witch out of what would have been her witch form because in this universe she was the first witch
ごめんねのところ本当泣ける
Homura is the Nutcracker witch. The Nutcracker is a ballet.
Madoka’s normal magical girl outfit looks like a ballerina uniform.
There's so much symbolism just in this 2 minute clip. It's amazing.
Homura Akemi: Friendzoned by God.
While the end of this movie puts that problem, into another problem :/
1:37 is the saddest part T-T She closes the door to Madoka.
Her being handcuffed and lead on is one aspect i noticed the most,think abt it homura is practically a slave to her own desires and her own wishes to save madoka, so witch homura being handcuffed and lead forward by other homura is symbolic of that
also shows how she doesn't have a choice,for all 12 years of regressing the only thing she knows is to save madoka,she told herself she HAVE to save madoka and she NEEDS to save madoka and she will have nothing other than madoka being saved
and her,being handcuffed and lead on by other her showed that ultimately She is a slave
It's more than handcuffs, though you're absolutely right. Its literal reminiscence is of the gallows - when the condemned criminal is lead to their execution, these are the "cuffs" they wear
Homura did a great job on describing what it feels like to fall into despair and transform into a witch. Detailed, compared to what sayaka did