Hornby Dublo Bristol Castle with Super Detail Coaches Tri-ang Railways 3F Tender Loco & Tank Wagons
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- Опубликовано: 13 янв 2023
- A look at my Hornby Dublo Bristol Castle with a train made up of Western Super Detail Coaches and a Pullman car, plus a handful of Hornby Dublo 4 wheel tankers, Hornby Dublo models show thought to be from the mid-50s to the early 60s? Tri-ang Railways R.251 3F Tender Loco with R.33 Tender from around 1958 with a handful of early Tank Wagons and a Brake Van possibly from the1950s. All dates are approximate Music Source/Royalty-free Apple loops/Looperman.com
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Fantastic video great share very well done sir 👍🏻🚂🔔😎
I have this set; it was my uncle's when he was little. Now i know more about it, i will get it fixed back up again👍🏻
Fascinating Oscar your knowledge is immense ; must be valuable Hornby Dublo certainly worth it.
Lovely Hornby Dublo locomotives and rolling stock…
Thanks Oscar I appreciate your showing of the various Hornby,Triang, oo and Wrenn engines. I Love the older Hornby,/Triang, models from the 1948 -1970"s & of course the Prewar Hornby Gauge. Thanks for sharing maybe some day you'll share with us all the transition of Hornby over the first 40 yrs. "Happy Rails" GMan
Hi Oscar, that Bristol Castle mechanism looks like it's working perfectly. It's probably the finest locomotive model in the Hornby Dublo range, the motor doesn't protrude from the cab like the later Ringfield versions and benefits from better scale driving wheels. Good to see the progress with the layout as well, many thanks for sharing.
Great to see this old Triang stuff and 3 track..brings back so many memories, your sound cuts out around 10.23
Some lovely things this week. The clarity of the windows on the Super Detail coaches really adds to the appeal of them. They look very special. I do like the look of the grey sidewalls, even though they may be a bit loose fitting, they give a look of solidity which is the main thing 😊Interesting to see how well the railcar climbs the standard Tri-ang gradient too. I have been running a rake of tank wagons from all eras lately as well, some I bought as wrecks and restored. I love the sound they make with their heavy die-cast chassis. 😊
Good morning Pauline, thank you again for taking the time to watch, quite interesting things the super detail coaches, I've always found it odd that they went for the tinplate sides at that point, but I'm really glad they did, as you say they do look quite special and the printer detail gives a really great effect. Since making the video I've been fiddling with the side walls a little more and have improved the fit of them and the track for the climb.
Take care.
Oscar
@@oscarpaisley If it is not too bold of me, there is a little 2 minute slide show on my channel featuring bits of my trial layout. I had the comments turned off for some silly reason and I don't think anyone has watched it but I'd be interested to read some comments now that I have fixed it. 🙂
Delighted to see the Hornby Dublo Castle out on the track, it’s a beautiful old loco, solid construction looks and sounds wonderful, the only thing that your video can’t convey is the smell !!
It’s great to see the comparison between the Hornby Dublo die-cast buildings and the Tri-ang plastic buildings, the die-cast items have weathered much better than the plastic structures, but that came at a significant difference in cost (£) which ultimately caused the demise of Hornby Dublo.
The Dublo tankers are fantastic, there’s some real weight to them and despite their age they look superb, no problem with pealing decals there!
Nothing beats a long rake of Dublo green ‘ Power’ tankers!
Thank you for another great video!
Good morning David it's terrific to hear you're enjoying seeing these items on the railway, as you say it's the smell that is missing from the video, and it's definitely part of the fun playing with his older model railway items.
Thanks again for watching take care.
Oscar
That 3F is w wonderfully smooth running, great locomotive.
Good morning Andrew great to hear you enjoyed that, take care.
Oscar
Hello Oscar, it's not often you see a loco on the rolling road with such beautifully balanced driving wheels. An absolutely superb model that looks great on your layout. Take care, best regards to you
Hi Mr Snooze thanks again, glad you like the look of the locomotive, these things were definitely built to last.
Take care.
Oscar
You seem to always find models that are in reasonably good condition for their age. Sure, they are play worn, but when looking at models around 60 to 70 years old (given it is 2023 now) these are actually in quite nice condition and considering they were toy trains, they have lasted much better than any modern toys would. I doubt a new almost $400 Hornby Railways model, with it's high detail and all, would be in anywhere near this good condition in 60 years time.
Good morning thank you again for taking the time to watch, you make a very good point, it will be lovely to know how today's model/toy railway items go on into the future...
Oscar
Great video Oscar. Hope you are keeping well. Take care.
Nice to see this old stuff running Oscar. The early Super Detailed coaches had “compensated” bogies, with riveted side frames, which in theory allowed them to ride over uneven track. However, in practice they often seized causing derailments so a one piece cast bogie was introduced and later versions of the type of coaches you have have all in one cast bogies. Only the brake, composite and full brake had the compensated versions of bogie I believe,
Late-production maroon Brake 2nd and Composites had non-compensated bogies like those on the Open 1sts, 2nds and Restaurants (which were introduced after the Brake 2nd and Composite) - they often appear for sale on ebay. I don't think the late-production WR ones had them though, at least, I've not seen them.
@@CaseyJonesNumber1 The late “Castle’ sets def. had non compensated bogies.
Hi thanks again for taking the time to watch and comment with this terrific information, it's a fascinating approach they took with the design of these “compensated” bogies.
Take care.
Oscar
As always a joy to start Sunday with a video from Oscar. That 3F is majestic running around with the tank wagons and I think you were very brave running the Demi to the edge of infinity, but not quite beyond. Thanks for sharing. Roy.
Hi Roy it's great to hear you enjoyed the video again, I think you could be right , it may be asking for trouble running up to the end of the elevated section! I think it's gonna be a while till I can really get elevated track to go somewhere practical but I have plans in mind.
All the best.
Oscar
The Hornby Dublo (Wrenn) locomotives were built to last. I have lost count of how many Hornby Dublo locomotives I have had professionally restored to good as new. The motors can be easily dismantled to components and with genuine Hornby Dublo / Wrenn spare parts rebuilt to run perfectly as the day they left Binns Road. I prefer a HD / Wrenn locomotive to anything Hornby produce in China.
Morning Oscar, the layout is really taking shape now. Lovely to see the Dublo Castle & super detail coaches, they make a good comparison with the earlier tinplate offerings.
The Tri-ang Deeley 3F with early wagons look good together, and the inclined section is looking interesting.
Eagerly await the next instalment as usual, regards, Rob.
Hi Rob thanks again, HD Castle is a lovely locomotive, they definitely built these things to last, and the Tri-ang 3F it's just such a smooth runner like many items from this period they have a very solid fuel on the rails.
All the best.
Oscar
The Pullman coach looks to me to be the same as the later Wrenn ones and they had the screw attaching the bogie so I think the screw is original.
Good morning thanks for watching and information, take care.
Oscar
That 3F sounds lovely and quiet . Smooth runner too considering how old it is . Great running session again Oscar . Love that station !
Good morning Russell, it is a lovely runner for 3F, I found some of these very old models runs very smoothly and those yard lengths of fibre-based track seems to quieten the running a huge amount compared to the plastic based series 3. Thanks again glad you enjoyed the running.
All the best.
Oscar
Brilliant. I do love Hornby Dublo. I wondered where you’d gone the last few months, but I just realized I’d been unsubscribed! Bizarre, I’d heard on some other channels about that happening but it’s a first for me. Anyway I’ve re subscribed, and now have some serious catching up to do. All the best mate. I’m glad to be back
Rob
Hi Robin glad your back I hope you enjoy the changes to the railway.
Take care.
Oscar
A light coat of quick drying varnish will stop any of the decals falling off Oscar.
Good morning from Glasgow Oscar and more proper classic Hornby Railway Locomotives and the Hornby I no from the 1960s thanks again for the video 📹
Good morning Cameron, definitely some of the old stuff running here great to hear enjoyed it. Thanks again hope all is well in Glasgow, unbelievably cold here in North Tyneside!
Oscar
Always a great start to a Sunday morning Oscar.
Your footage never fails to reveals details long forgotten. I this instance, the wiring arrangement inside the Castle tender.
If I recall correctly, this would have been an early version in which the TV suppressor was part of the tender chassis.
Later versions had the capacitor/inductor components attached to the 1/2" motor mechanism.
Always fascinating to note how much quieter the running of the early Triang locomotives .
Good morning great to hear you enjoy the video and found a look around the inside of the model interesting, these items were definitely built to last. It's odd that these very old Tri-ang models have this very solid feel to the past running on the rails and loverly sound, running on the fibre-based track also cuts down the sound significantly.
All the best.
Oscar
Ah I see that your Layout is getting on nicely Oscar - you've started on a elevated section Oscar - I think you may need to put on a few buffers here & there - you don't want them flying of the edge now!!! I wonder where that elevated section will lead too??? 🤔🚂🚂🚂
Good morning Jimyjames, thanks again, a slippery slope as they say! with the elevated section, you're right I really should put the odd buffer on the railway...
All the best.
Oscar
Great video. Rather strange that the coach bogies are not pivoted centrally between the axles.
Hi Oscar.
After all this time, I don't understand why you haven't purchased a tripod (NOT a gimbal). You only need a cheapie and it will stop you from constantly struggling with one hand on the camera. It's frustrating for the viewer to see video shots of something when they are moving around all the time. I recently purchsed a tripod from a well known supermarket for only £25 and it was money well spent. With a tripod, if you hold the loco, wagon or carriage up to the camera, the viewer will be able to see the subject without feeling seasick. Failing that, take some evening classes at your local college. 😀
To add to that, a thumbs up 👍 for your coverage of old Tri-ang and Hornby Dublo locos etc., as it brings back memories of when I was a child. Do take on board what I said in the above paragraph as it's a shame that your uploads of stuff from the old days are being spoilt by dodgy camera operation.
Keep up the good work regarding old fashioned locos and rolling stock!
Paul.
Can't find the video where you said you were doing a change over to Duplo. I'm still grieving, lol, over your change over from the first layout.
Hi Oscar,
Great HD Castle for its age and the layout looking good with some interesting options for the future.
Informative trawl through the rolling stock and carriages.
Perfect compliment to the bacon roll 😂
Good morning Gordon thanks again, it's a lovely locomotive the castle, great to hear you're enjoying watching the railway develop. I was thinking bacon myself this morning with an egg! However somebody seems to have eaten all of the bacon... A pair of fried eggs on toast, it's too cold for muesli...
All the best.
Oscar
Hi oscar really love the videos especially the hornby with zero 1 you did before this new layout. my dad has zero 1 which he still uses. Im in the middle of doing my N gauge railway you give alot of inspiration. keep the videos coming.
Good morning thanks for watching, it's great to hear you're enjoying the videos and that your father is still enjoying using the Zero 1.
All the best.
Oscar
Great video this morning Oscar, some very nice items featured in this video especially the castle and the coaches that it was hauling, while this doesn’t relate to this video in the past week I have been trying to fix up a triang R751 class 37 which I have had for quite a few years but unfortunately been unsuccessful so far.
Good morning David glad you enjoyed seeing the castle and coaches, that motor bogie used in the R.751/ class 37 is not my favourite bit of design from Tri-ang, there are too many parts sitting next to each other relying on each other being in exactly the right place, and very often the running problems stem from the poor design/ wear of the armature bearings, and the base plate is far too weak for the job it has to do, along with the armature bearings distortion in the base plate means everything that sits above it is not a secure. It's a very frustrating design.
Thank you again take care.
Oscar
This was an action packed video this week with so many great trains running. I immediately liked the Bristol Castle. Whether it was the solid look of it or the smooth running I don't know but it has an appeal. Again, I have always liked the Hornby Dublo tin plate tank wagons. Your train looked superb. The 3F runs so smooth for it's age, another beauty. The incline project is interesting and I look forward to seeing how the 3D printed parts come together to make it work. Altogether a great video this week Oscar.
Regards, David.
Good morning David it's a lovely looking item the Bristol castle, I was very pleased with it when I got it from Tynemouth market all those years ago but I have sadly had little opportunity to use it since, the inclined section has grown over the weeks, it's going to be quite good fun sorting it out and one of those are time-consuming projects. In the opening weeks of this year time has been a real issue! whilst having the luxury of time off over the festive season I have become exceptionally busy with my work as of January has progressed.
Thanks again take care.
Oscar
Great video! To set up a Triang Series 3 layout or a Hornby Dubblo 3 track layout would be impressive. To set them up in parallel and have them sharing stations is amazing. What motivated you to set them up together? The Bristol Castle and all the rolling stock; especially the maroon and cream cars; are looking great considering their ages ( 60+ years). Then you go from one extreme to the other with 3D printing. It will be good to see how the raised track works out.
Good morning Stephen terrific you're enjoying seeing how the railway develops, it suddenly came to me as I was dismantling the previous railway that I should try and work with both the Hornby Dublo and the Series 3 together and see what could be done, mainly because I couldn't decide whether I should have a play with the Dublo or Series 3 and I simply couldn't decide. I knew which ever route I went down it would be quite a long development once I started, last time I cleared the railway I completely by accident ended up having fun developing the system 6 layout over the following couple of years. I wasn't sure whether working with both the systems would work but having been experimenting over the last couple of months I'm quite pleased with the results and it is of course a great deal of fun.
All the best.
Oscar
Those are some very smooth condition super details, very nice.
Remember the dublo runs extremely well on the old H&M safety minor but not nearly so much on the clipper or duette. Both those were resistance controllers, their contemporary stable mates the safety minor and power master were nearly double the price, and with good reason.
You've got some nice stuff there, the dublo 1/2" is a gem of a runner, the bo-bo variant is sweet
Hi thanks again for watching, and the information on the H&M equipment, sadly I've not yet managed to have a try with a safety minor or power master, I shall have to keep a look out for good example of them, glad you like the look of the Dublo items.
Take care.
Oscar
@@oscarpaisley tbh your Morley is superb. The safety minor and power master were super transformers in their day, and still are to a degree. However not having any electronics in them do date them. Some H&M's had a variable half wave switch, as I'm sure you've observed the half wave setting isn't bad but it's a bit crude.
I suppose what I will always like about the safety minor and power master is the fact that they are completely pure. Just a straight variable voltage directly off the secondary coils. No feedback pulses or modulation. No resistance mats etc. motors just have such an easy time with them, no heat build up, easy on magnets, easy on older armature wiring and brushes.
And rather ironically after putting up a RUclips video showing dublo slow starts the reality is that I actually have very little interest in crawling slow speeds. I just used to run them at a nice leisurely pace.
I have to admit Oscar, after years and years of being a huge dublo fan, your channel has really shown me how nice a lot of that triang equipment actually was, with the post merger product really crossing over from vintage to modern.
Cheers Oscar, you're an inspiration
Very desirable Hornby Dublo locomotive s ; I prefer the company livery variant. You must have an extensive stock Oscar. 😊
Try a tiny drop of silicone lubricant on the coach axle ends - you can remove the wheelsets on the compensated bogies to clean them, and the axleboxes - you only need a very tiny drop of lube though. It should make the coaches run a lot better, but they'll never run as freely as clean pinpoint axles.
Hi thanks for watching and the info it's much appreciated.
Take care.
Oscar
You have a way of breathing new life into these old stagers in particular the way your test track is set up for 3 rail is great . What make is the rolling road? regards Paul
Good morning Paul great to hear enjoyed the video, the rolling road is Hornby's R8211, I've added a third rail for the occasions where I need to test the third rail pick up, which is removable when not needed however in practice it doesn't really affect the two rail models.
All the best.
Oscar
Hi There Oscar ,, I know this is probably a silly question but do you put any oil on the axles and the wheels so that they run freely.
With almost every carrriage and loco I have bought lately I have cleaned the surface of the of the wheels and also make sure that both of the wheels turn freely and only need a drop and i makemsure i clean off any excess so it wont get all over the tracks(when i eventually gey them down haha).
The carriages behind the king class and the pullman car are absolutely beautiful and well kept for there age & are just a delignt to see something soo old running around like it was made just yesterday.
Obviously these were made well before planned obsolescence.
Yet another awesome video there Oscar and thank you again for putting them on.
Cheers from John in Australia.
Just another quick question with the close box axles carriages.
I have worked out how to get the open box axles out and ie 1 wheel spins and the whole axle turns with the other wheel in the open axle housing.
I have a few carriages with the mark 1 couplings like on the tankers you have that are in great conditions but have broken wheels and I have replacement wheels of really bad condition carriages (that will end up my train scrapyard) that have good 2 piece wheels and axles.
Is there any trick to getting the closed axle boxes out or can you point me to a video if you have done 1 as i need to fix these wheels so i have more rolling stock but i am at a loss to getting them out.
The only way i can see would be to drill out 1 side of the axle box and then change the wheels then plug the axle shaft hole with maybe araldite so the axle and wheels dosent fall out.
Thanks again.
Cheers from John in Australia.
It's a Castle, not a King! (HD never made a King.)
@@CaseyJonesNumber1 uhuh ,, whats (HD)
@@johngibson4641 HD = Hornby Dublo. It's a very common abbreviation for it among Dublo enthusiasts...
Good morning John, I do use oil, a very light sewing machine type oil which is designed/safe to use on both metals and plastics and not Mark fabrics. I use the absolute minimum possible, tiny drop from needle applicator, less is more with oil I find especially if the item is going to be put away and stored shortly after use.
Thanks again glad you enjoyed the video.
Oscar