Hornby Dublo 3233 Co Bo Locomotive • Insulated Meat Wagons
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- Hornby Dublo 3233 Co Bo Locomotive with newly installed traction tyers and coupling from the early 1960s with a small mixed rake of Insulated Meat Wagons possibly from the late 1950s & early 1960s.
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Link to earlier video with 2-rail Co Bo:
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Great love those old Co Bo's .Dublo wagons tend to only come uncoupled when you're not watching them lol
Another excellent video to compliment my Sunday morning breakfast! 😊
I’m a big fan of Dublo, it’s quite incredible that these old trains are well over 60 years old and are a tribute to the good folk at a Binns Road, Liverpool who will have long passed on.
The lithographed wagons and coaches have a charm all of their own and although they may have some scratches and ‘dings’ they just add to their character.
The locomotives are beautiful pieces of miniature engineering in their own right and nothing beats the sight, sound and smell of a long rake of Dublo wagons rattling around on three rail track.
😊
Thank you David it's great to hear you're enjoying the video's with these well enjoyed items from Binns Road.
All the best.
Oscar
Got to admire the simplicity of the Co-Bo construction, no elaborate cast chassis just a simple bent strip of metal holding the two bogies together. Another interesting video. Cheers Rob.
Reminds of those old Jouef mechanisms. Took me some time, and 3/type of locos, to crate a both bogie drive version of the old SNCF B'B' 14000 class, and C'C' 40100 models (+ directional lights since I upgradeing old stuff). I also made a 2 motored old Hornby Class 31 and a Piko BR 130. But the BRexit killed all my other plans to get more British models, or to do similar "improvements" to more old Brit stuff. + the luxury tax what we have here on models...
Oscar You’ve inspired me to sell up the N gauge items I have had stashed in a cupboard for years and to start collecting the 1970s Hornby items I remember being gifted as a kid! Even the catalogues too! Dangerous business watching RUclips... 😊 Keep up the good work
Hi that's a rich period of models from Hornby with very interesting catalogues, hope you have a great fun developing your collection.
Thanks for watching take care.
Oscar
Good man 👍
wonderful to watch....just love these vintage type model railway layouts....for me they are more enjoyable than the full on realistic/scenic model railways....as good as those are of course...just so nice seeing such old models and track,all running,working together so well...best wishes..ade
Good afternoon Adrian great to hear you enjoyed the video, I'm with you I really enjoy running these olde r items.
I like to see modelled layouts with scenery buildings and so on but for me at home I prefer the simplicity of toy trains with the sound and motion that goes along with them.
All the best.
Oscar
Like the Co-Bo. As mentioned in other comments, the simplicity! I have Wrenn Class 20s which would have been HD in earlier years and the design is similar as is Wrenn's "Brighton Belle". There will be no mazak rot to find in these!
I echo the other comments. When I had a 3 rail layout in a house with a large loft, I collected some Meccano, Dinky and Bayko buildings and bits and pieces, which all looked nice, as they were all of the same vintage.
You made a great repair on the Co Bo pickup bogie ,that fibre washer disintergrates ,and is a part you cant seem to obtain from anyone, i know ive tried for a Deltic .
Good review of a nice looking locomotive. Looks like it's a good runner. Great to see it in the Great Central livery. Thanks for showing. Regards Paul.
Good morning Paul glad you enjoyed the look over this rather interesting locomotive from Hornby Dublo.
All the best.
Oscar
Hello Oscar, great fun again this morning. I must try the drinking straw fix to the Mk II coupler problem. I really like the Co-Bo loco, it was an oddity in it's time but it appealed to me. Your 3D printer is proving its worth with the components you are able to make, that washer was perfect. The layout is filling out with track now, there soon won't be space for anymore. Like others, I am eagerly awaiting the completion of the overhead section, I can't imagine where it will come back down. We were snow free and +10c yesterday (18th) but today we are under 3" of snow again.
Regards, David.
Good afternoon David the sound of all that snow and the temperatures you mention make me shiver, bright sunny and crisp here today with just a little ice not frost on the cars this morning, I was quite pleased with the replacement washer/bearing/bush I made, still haven got around to replacing the print head/hot end on my 3-D printer, had fought with it quite a bit around the time you were here in the uk with cooling fans at the print head, had them both of them out and cleaned up with switch cleaner and they have been behaving very well right through the Christmas period and into mid January at which point I have come to a halt with printing for the moment, so I haven't used for just over a month now but hopefully it will spring back into life when needed. I had got to the point on the railway where I needed to start fixing a bit of track down before I could continue with the overhead section and spare time has been in very short supply. As I have been operating on a print as needed basis making the elevated sections it seemed wise to stop printing parts, I should be back in a position to resume the development of it in the next couple of weeks.
Take care.
Oscar
Hi Oscar,
Replacing the screw on that non-motorized bogie with a shoulder screw will alleviate any binding potential with the threads against your 3d printed part AND with the chassis being forced against the bogie. Unless there is a need for continuity betwixt the bogie and the chassis, installing a Teflon washer between them will reduce friction as the bogie turns.
Loads of fun watching!!
I do enjoy your adventures
Bee
Good morning thanks again for watching and the information, glad you enjoyed the video
Take care.
Oscar
@17:25 A nice Brake van - Your Layout is coming on nicely - looks like you need a few more buffers!!! 🙂🤔🚂🚂🚂
Good morning Jimyjames, buffers will arrive at some point.
Thanks again take care.
Oscar
Ive seen tiny elastic bands being used to keep the Mk2 couplings together too
Thanks Oscar for another entertaining and informative video.
You touched on how the Co-Bo was and unpopular model when new.
I came across some comments on RMWEB of how unpopular it was in response to a question on whether Wrenn ever produced the Co-Bo : -
But think about it, if the H/D original was unpopular and hard to shift, there would have been little financial sense in making it again even with with the diecast body. According to Michael Foster, only 130 Co-Bos were sold in 1964 and 3,150 were in stock when Lines Bros/Triang took over Meccano/Hornby Dublo. Or to put it another way, Triang had enough Co-Bos for 24 years worth of sales. Some must have been moved from Binns Road to Margate as Pat Hammond says that 725 were taken into stock at Margate, and I'm guessing these would have been the Triang Hornby overstickered examples. Triang did have some success in moving them, they included a coupling converter wagon in the price, and apparently had sold all but 120 by the end of 1966. How long they remained on retailers' shelves is another matter. This information would have filtered down, I'm sure, to Wrenn in Basildon one way or another.
This sort of common overproduction by Hornby Dublo, far in excess of their declining demand, was likely the dominant reason they asked Lines Bros/Triang to buy them out at a knock down price.
Speaking about the Co-Bo , Richard Lines was very unimpressed when Triang had the unsold Co-Bos delivered to Margate.
Now the scarcity make them far more desirable.
Good morning John, thanks again for the info, definitely has a bit of history this locomotive, not terribly successful in service or as a model. I'm sure I've read that consideration was given quite late on to adding yellow warning panels and the possibility of lighting being added was explored, but these ideas didn't go beyond a few preproduction examples for evaluation.
All the best.
Oscar
That was an enjoyable episode.
One of the very few issues I noticed with the co-bo is that you would've noticed the bo end pick up is ever so slightly shorter than the standard pickup, and unfortunately it's just the right length now to straddle the diamond at low speed.
You can use a standard pick up if need be, you just have to bend the ends of the pickup spoons to clear the bo bogie frame. Just if you feel like converting a two rail and have a few standard pickups lying around...
The shorter pickup was shared with the EMU.
I think that's a bit telling actually: dublo had their standard 3 rail pickup. some had the plungers, and some had the shorter pickup. This ringfield was 3 axle, same as this one, but this ringfield was a different one shared with the 08, but on a 2 axle bo bogie, and not interchangeable due to the drive mechanism, and of course this ringfield had the long drive armature. This ringfield had the small magnet. Not to be confused with the 1/2" motor on the other bo bogie on the EE type 1.
I mean, meccano wasn't even thinking along adapting a standard motor to different frames, but they had the 3 completely different motors in production at the same time, not only that but non interchangeable variances within those individual motors. And Roland Hornby couldn't figure out why they weren't making money?!?
Good stuff Oscar
Hi thanks for watching and the great information it's much hey appreciated. I was luck to get hold of a 2-rail EMU a few years ago and an 08 is on my list of items to look out for. It was an amazing range of items and even more so when you realise how many individual parts they needed as you have mentioned.
Take care.
Oscar
Great these models are still around 60-70 years on . I bet they e given a lot of joy over their lives . The Co-Bo looks fantastic and the layout is coming on leaps and bounds . I’m intrigued to see where that extended elevated section is going to end up ! Great video again Oscar . My Sunday morning regular . A nice cup of tea and your latest video . Always a pleasure
Hi Russell thank you again for taking the time to watch glad you enjoyed the look at these terrific models from the past hopefully they keep going for a few more years to come.
Take care.
Oscar
Hi Oscar,
Lovely Co Bo and it’s not until the body is off that you realise what workhorses these models are. I suspect, and this is not a criticism, that they are ‘over engineered’ for their purpose but to be kinder to them, ‘built to last’ is more appropriate.
I liked the meat wagon with the block of wood and printed detail, simple but effective.
Great drinking straw tip.
When any domestic pumps or sprays are finished I usually snip off the plastic tubing, it is quite rigid and has a lot of uses if you only need short lengths.
Regards,
Gordon
Good morning Gordon I think you're right, over engineered it is and will defiantly last a while.
Thanks again for watching and the tip on the plastic tubing.
Take care.
Oscar
Hi Oscar, Excellent video, don't you just love the noise the 3-rail loco's and wagons make. I am a huge HD 3-rail enthusiast and have eight HD Co-Bo's in my collection (although five of them have been repainted in fictitious liveries (Neverwassass)). Did you know there are two body casting for the Co-Bo? Apparently quite a few of the early examples lost their (flat) battery boxes during handling so the Meccano revised the casting and added strengthening ribs on the sides of the battery boxes, although these are generally only found on the 2-rail models. I will look forward to your further video's showing more HD.
Good afternoon Dave thanks for watching and the information, I must dig out my 2-rail version and have a look at the moulding. These models do make a lovely sound when in motion.
All the best.
Oscar
Good morning Oscar. Great video as usual. Those wagons were certainly great of their time. The detail on them was very good. Thanks for sharing. Roy.
Morning Roy thanks again glad you enjoyed the video, it's amazing what they did was the tinplate & printing and blocks of wood with a printed wrap on them, very effective.
Take care.
Oscar
Great video Oscar, lovely engine and consist.Trackworks coming on a treat.👍
Thanks Oscar really nice to watch .50s & 60s model rail products were made to last as you are proving ,that cobo motor is something of quality & with a bit of care will certainly do that ..Very interested in layout project .😊
Thank you Stephen glad you enjoyed watching this video, these Hornby Dublo models certainly do have some loverly engineering in them.
All the best.
Oscar
Very good! 3rail still my prefered choice.
A great looking train, your Co-Bo runs very nicely. The new Series 3 section looks good and I like the way you have incorporated the turntable. I look forward to seeing it in action. Best regards to you
Good morning Mr Snooze the Co Bo runs very well, I've put the turntable in to get an idea of where thing could go, I keep meaning to get it hooked up! But so far there always seems to be something more pressing to work on.
Thanks again take care.
Oscar
Hello Oscar. Thanks for another wonderful video. The metal lithographed insulated meat wagons & guard's van are very cool. The graphics lithographed on to the metal makes that Hornby Dublo rolling stock so charming. Even though since boyhood I have been a Tri-ang fan, I did buy some vintage lithographed Hornby passenger carriages at a train show in Vancouver, British Columbia in 2019. I really like those carriages, the window shading, printed on detail, they make me smile when I see them on display. Also, I really like how you've expanded your layout. The Hornby Dublo 3 rail reverse loop is great. As is your Tri-ang Series 3 track set up.
Hi Greg thank you for watching glad you like the railway and these lithographed items such a simple solution, not sure you would get away with it today, they look terrific at viewing distance as well, Great to hear you have some in your collection.
All the best.
Oscar
Good morning Oscar, your certainly developing the track work around the roundabout it's starting to look great. You've worked so Hard on this, it will be really good when you get the sidings all connected be it must be hard swapping sbits of track about to gat t
He best use. The co bo looks and sounds quite a strong engine, and she looks great with the insulated vans and the conflats. I know what you mean when you say the crudeness of these early models are really quite lovely. They were a product of their time. Its so wonderful to see someone who is protecting the history of these models not by shutting them away but displaying by using them. Well done Oscar see you on next one. Eddy xxx
Good morning Eddy thanks again for watching, quite good fun developing the railway and seeing what works. As you point out these models are from a different time altogether and lovely things to play with, expectations of detail and performance of model locomotives today are far in excess of that expected of these items back when they when new. The excitement of getting one of these Dublo items either as a child or an adult must've been immense at the time, a number of years on they still bring a great deal of enjoyment to a number of us.
Take care.
Oscar
Hi Oscar, Great to see the Drinking straw trick in place.. Simple solutions are always good?
Fitting the "early" turntable between the loops is a great idea... Although these Turntables worked well, their use was a bit limited, with only one inlet and outlet track? This is a great way to get extra benefits from one of them..
The Co-Bo is a great loco .. Simplicity at it's best? Reminds me a bit of Tri-ang's efforts with the R 55 chassis. Much heavier though and obviously better traction.
This "mixed" layout is really progressing well.. It is nice to see a number of trains running at the same time..
The Catenary system was introduced during the Series 3 track era, so it would not be "out of place"?
Perhaps if you have a spot, where some "early edition Catenary wires" could be used as a demonstration? I think that you mentioned having some in an earlier video?
I have always found the Tri-ang Overhead Power Supply to be quite interesting? (It's odd that some of the later 'flat surface' Pantographs were better suited to the rounded ends of the early wires, than to the "joining sleeve" on their later version of the wires)?
A definite "Thumbs up" to the new layout.. It's coming along great..
Hi Robin I keep meaning to get the turntable wired up but still haven't got around to it, it just sits there! it will make a great sound when in operation. Funny you should mention catenary, I had not been planning to have catenary on this railway due to the complexity of having both the two and 3-rail systems in operation, but recently seen a good way to build it in, I do have quite a bit of the early style phase 1 catenary, just need the time now...
All the best
Oscar
Thanks Oscar, great video, I do like the Co Bo, I will get one at some point, but I only recently bought the 3 rail Deltic. Your Triang turntable looks in great condition, I have one but it's rather rusty, the motor works but I don't think it will drive the table around, I have a more recent Hornby version which is more likely to get used.
Good afternoon Paul terrific to hear you have a 3-rail Deltic, sadly I think these early Tri-ang turntables are very susceptible to rust, Ive been lucky with mine so far with just a few rust spots on the top plate.
All the best.
Oscar
Great video this morning Oscar, I really like the combo or the class 28 as it’s also known as and would really like to get a 2 rail version in the future.
Good morning David thanks again, it's a lovely locomotive glad you like the look of it.
All the best
Oscar
Hi Oscar, that's a really lovely looking Co-Bo meat train. I've never had a Co-Bo loco but I feel inspired to get one now. As you would know the Co-Bo locomotives were used to haul the BR "Condor" (Container Door to Door) freight service in the early 1960's, so your train really looks the part! All the best, Guy
Good afternoon Guy glad you like the look of the train of wagons with the Co Bo, definitely an interesting model as well as the history press prototype, Hope you find one for your collection.
Thanks for watching take care.
Oscar
Another great video, Oscar. Those Hornby Dublo three rail models are amazing. I must agree the mechanism in the Co-Bo is primitive but impressive. The gears look like they may have come out of a Meccano set. The trackwork is coming along really well. If you don't stop, you're gonna need a bigger table. Also you should broaden your channel description to include Horny Dublo now.
Hi Stephen thanks again, they definite knew how to build these models to last. Just a little more work with the track to go, but taking more time than I currently have available.
Take care.
Oscar
Hi Oscar the metal that the dublo carriages are made with is die cast alloy and is the same as what they make carburettors out of.
I really do like how you show your trains and your layout and give us as much info as you can regarding when they were made and how the locos are pulled down and show us the inner workings of them. Thanks again for doing what you do.
Cheers from John in Australia
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Thank you again John for the information and taking the time to watch and kind words, much appreciated.
Take care
Oscar
Nice!
Great video again, re the "new" layout, why no Super 4 ( only series 3 and HD track) Just curious - excellent
Oscar have you thought of using Standard track on the elevated sections. It will probably hold better in the bases and look better as well.
I've used some Standard track (plus sidewalls) on an incline on my layout - took a lot of sorting to find pieces that hadn't warped, narrowing the gauge. I found a 9v PP3 battery that gave a good indication of usable track - if it slid easily between the rails, that was good, but if it started to bind and trap the battery that piece of track was probably not usable.
The Meat Wagons made me Hungary. Inexplicably so.
Layout coming on nicely here Oscar. Most enjoyable to see it develop. Do you intend to introduce some overhead catenary on the Triang sections? regards Paul
Good morning Paul thanks for watching glad you're enjoying seeing the layout develop. It had not been my intention to add catenary to this layout, however in the last couple of weeks I've now seen a possibility for installing it so is now under consideration, but since the Christmas period have had a lot less free time available than anticipated so progress on the railway hasn't come on as quickly as I would have liked, but possibly that always going to be the way.
All the best.
Oscar
It's always nice to see a model of the Metro-Vick Co-Bo. Do you think you can run your 3-rail and 2-rail versions side-by-side in the near future?
Hi thank you for watching I shall try and run both of my models of the Co Bo as you suggest in the future once the railway gets a bit more under control.
All the best.
Oscar
BoCo ;)
Good Morning to you Oscar from Glasgow I've not got a Model of the that Loco A week to go to Model Rail Scotland sorry you can't get to the show
Good morning Cameron thank you again for taking the time to watch, Hope you have a great time at Model Rail Scotland. The Dublo Co Bo is an interesting looking model with its cast body and beautifully engineered motor bogie.
Take care.
Oscar
Hi Oscar, Does the Baltic use the Princess chassis. Layout is looking good.
Good morning Gerard the Baltic tank does use the chassis from the Princess, tri-ang definitely getting some versatility out of existing parts.
Thanks again take care.
Oscar
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What happened to your other layout?
Oscar never maintains a static layout. Track configurations come and go. You will never see fussy scenery, just loads and loads of components. Be they locomotives, rolling stock, catenary, stations, bridges, canopies, elevated sections or what have you.
Its ever changing. Don't blink!!
My favourite one from several years ago had the chipboard baseboard become increasingly warped giving worse running.
So replaced by these more substantial baseboards.
MDF I believe.