Always an interesting upload from you! As a swede with Nordic winter-tire experience I would like to comment on the softness of the tires. I recognize exactly what you say. I think from +3 and below things will get much better, but also over time. Your tires are new and the rubber in the tires are fresh. The rubber will harden over time, but it will happen slowly. Maybe not until next season you will feel a bigger difference. I use the European type of wintertires on my current car (high performance car) and it actually works much better, but it is ofcourse a compromise in terms of usability in real Swedish winter.
I would absolutely recommend 19" as a permanent switch due to improvement in ride comfort on rough roads. It's shortsighted thinking by Tesla not to allow a 19" wheel package on the 3 and Y Performance at the time of purchase.
I've been doing some research, supposedly 18x8.5 +35 5x114.3 64.1 bore will fit these like factory also. Cheaper tires and 255/50-18 should result in a 28" diameter matching stock.
Do you think your warnings about performance on the 19" tires would also apply if they were all season 19" tires? I've debated getting a MYP but want to switch to 19" wheels (want the improved comfort, want to avoid staggered tires, cheaper tires ,etc) but i wonder if the tires would spin out on a 0-60 all out sprint. If there would still be a lot of tire spin or weird handling on tight turns then i think i would be better off with the MYLR and acceleration boost. thanks.
I think it will be a lot better handling with all season/summer tires. The rubber on Nordic friction is very soft, and u think that's the main problem.
Are those rims 8,5x19? That could explaine why you felt you were «sliding» to either side… I’m considering the Gemini, those are 9,5x19… magbe the would perform slightly better when driving a little harder? I just got the MYP 2023 with 21’s,,, but i would LOVE to have some more comfort 😂 HOW big difference was it when driving over «bumps» in the road? With my 21 i feel EVERY singel bump in the road 🥶🥶
Ohh crap 😔😔 What do you think, is it worth the «downgrade» ? Or should i just stick with my 21’s? I could sell the 21 and buy geminis ( im from norway btw ) and even have money left after i’ve got the gemini with nokian R5 … but if the change in comfort is not THAT big, i really don’t know….
So you are considering to downgrade your summer wheels or is it a new set up of winter wheeks you are looking for? If you are looking for a new winter setup, then go for 19". It is a difference in comfort but also a downgrade when it comes to performance, and cheeper. For summer, stick to your 21" looks better and I think the comfort are ok on those.
Its for changing to winter tires. The stock 21 summertires are ok i think ( maybe i will consider lighter 20’s for summer, but it’s not that big of a deal. For winter with 19, i will het slightly better range, tires are more cheap, added comfort , silence etc,,, I can’t use the full potensial of the car this winter anyway, so i guess 19 is the way to go! We‘re having -16c allready, and roads with ice, so i have to drive carefully anyway 😚
Thanks for the quick reply, but I can't handle the website in Swedish at all, can you give me a contact email of this company so I can ask them if they send the rims to Romania?
seems like there's is alot of resellers for ocean rims. Try this site: global.scstyling.com/falgar-dack/falgar/ocean?culture=en-GB¤cy=EUR&channelCountry=NL&channel=Global
I would have like to know where you ordered your rims from. Also, a video shot of them from the side of the car with the sun shining on it would have been better. They were hard to see with the shadows. I have a model Y performance and was thinking about buying 19" wheels for the winter to see if that would help with ride quality but didn't get much commentary on ride quality. You used to be able to order a MYP with 19" wheels. I think Tesla won't sell them to new MYP owners because of the speed rating of the tire.
The reason Tesla would not sell you smaller rims and tyres is that they are not allowed on the model Y performance in Sweden (and probably also elsewhere in Europe). The only dimensions allowed are stated on the driver side doorframe and on your "registreringsbevis". Even if smaller rims will fit, which Tesla told me they will do, they are not allowed on this car model. I have the same car MYP and decided to bite the bullit and buy 21" winter tires.
No that is not correct. You can use whatever wheels you want on your car as long as you follow the list criterias/rules that are stated. For more info about the rules in Sweden: www.transportstyrelsen.se/sv/vagtrafik/fordon/fordonsregler/dack/dackbyte-pa-personbil/
In a sense you’re right. However it says that if you deviate from what’s in the documentation for your car you do so at your own risk and responsibility.
@@whynot5852 If you go third party its very important to look at: - Load capacity of rims (how many kgs per rim they handle, they should handle the total allowed weight of car / 4) - Track width (not overly missing OEM specs or you might get rubbing. - Rim width (not too narrow rims, tire should not stretch too much) Tire OD (outer diameter) - try to stay as close to OEM OD as possible, use a tiresize calculator to check dimensions vs dimensions which came with your car. In Norway its legal to do +-5% difference, but staying as close as possible to OEM sizing is a smart thing. - Tire load - Tire wear index (some tires wear very fast) - Max speed tires are rated for (YP can do 250km/h).
In Norway the best studless winter tires in 2022 are: 1. Nokian Hakkapeliitta R5 SUV - 87 poeng 2. Goodyear UltraGrip Ice 2 - 81 poeng 3. Continental VikingContact 7 - 79 poeng 4. Michelin X-Ice Snow SUV - 78 poeng 5. Falken Winterpeak F-Snow 1 - 75poeng 6. Bridgestone Blizzak DM-V3 - 66 poeng 7. Kumho WinterCraft WS51 - 55 poeng 8. Mazzini Snowleopard LX - 53 poeng But I would just choose one in top 5, maybe in top 4. Reason is that you have a lot of weight and a lot of torque. Have been using the Nokian R3 on Model 3 Performance, but if I were to buy something outside of Tesla for tires I would look at CVC7 or Ultragrip ICE3 or X-ICE. Reason is that the nokians are a bit too soft I think, they are best on ice - but I live on west coast of Norway so we have a lot of days with just rain in the winter . So the Nokians are more for colder parts of Norway or other countries. So I would for my usage look at UG2, CVC7 or X-ICE. The nokians have been good, but as you say they rumble and they feel like rubber... You accellerate and you feel your tires left you and suddenly you get dragged back :P Rubber band effect.
If you listen to what I say you may hear me talk about the ride quality. 😉 had some videos driving around, but got some issues with the sound quality and scrapped it. Would it be better to just see me drive around and let you summarize it your self by judging the movement of the camera? 😂
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Always an interesting upload from you!
As a swede with Nordic winter-tire experience I would like to comment on the softness of the tires. I recognize exactly what you say. I think from +3 and below things will get much better, but also over time. Your tires are new and the rubber in the tires are fresh. The rubber will harden over time, but it will happen slowly. Maybe not until next season you will feel a bigger difference.
I use the European type of wintertires on my current car (high performance car) and it actually works much better, but it is ofcourse a compromise in terms of usability in real Swedish winter.
Very good point! Thanks for the feedback!
Hi, the ride quality on my September built Model Y LR is much improved for the earlier builds IMO. Nice informative video, thanks.
Berlin built?
I would absolutely recommend 19" as a permanent switch due to improvement in ride comfort on rough roads. It's shortsighted thinking by Tesla not to allow a 19" wheel package on the 3 and Y Performance at the time of purchase.
As always, excellent video. Please add links for what you bought in the video description!
I've been doing some research, supposedly 18x8.5 +35 5x114.3 64.1 bore will fit these like factory also. Cheaper tires and 255/50-18 should result in a 28" diameter matching stock.
Those rims looks real nice tbh, big fan of the turbine replica wheels. Got myself the same(ish) but in 20" for winter, also silk/matte black.
Thanks!
Looks great! I’m thinking about getting these same rims in 18s. I can’t deal with the ride quality of the 21s.
Good choice!
Do you think your warnings about performance on the 19" tires would also apply if they were all season 19" tires? I've debated getting a MYP but want to switch to 19" wheels (want the improved comfort, want to avoid staggered tires, cheaper tires ,etc) but i wonder if the tires would spin out on a 0-60 all out sprint. If there would still be a lot of tire spin or weird handling on tight turns then i think i would be better off with the MYLR and acceleration boost. thanks.
I think it will be a lot better handling with all season/summer tires. The rubber on Nordic friction is very soft, and u think that's the main problem.
Tesla also has the option to change your wheel configuration when switching tires & rims.
Not for the model y performance in Sweden.
did you put air monitors?.
Yes I did.
2024 MYP on 21 is fantastic
I have a M3 Performance and run 18" wheels at the track. I'm curious if they would also fit the Y Performance.
I know that some 18" wheels will fit the model y. But the M3P and the MYP doesn't have the same offset and the tires are too small for the MYP.
Hello!
What are the ЕТ (OFFSET) of your rims?
Ocean everblue gp6. 9,5x19 ET45 5/114,3
@@ItsOnlyElectric thank you!
So it’s like the OEMs, yeah?
Yes, works perfectly fine.
Are those rims 8,5x19? That could explaine why you felt you were «sliding» to either side… I’m considering the Gemini, those are 9,5x19… magbe the would perform slightly better when driving a little harder? I just got the MYP 2023 with 21’s,,, but i would LOVE to have some more comfort 😂 HOW big difference was it when driving over «bumps» in the road? With my 21 i feel EVERY singel bump in the road 🥶🥶
No it's 9.5x19. You feel the added comfort with the 19" wheels but actually less than I thought. But the tires feel better now when they have worn in.
Ohh crap 😔😔 What do you think, is it worth the «downgrade» ? Or should i just stick with my 21’s? I could sell the 21 and buy geminis ( im from norway btw ) and even have money left after i’ve got the gemini with nokian R5 … but if the change in comfort is not THAT big, i really don’t know….
So you are considering to downgrade your summer wheels or is it a new set up of winter wheeks you are looking for? If you are looking for a new winter setup, then go for 19". It is a difference in comfort but also a downgrade when it comes to performance, and cheeper. For summer, stick to your 21" looks better and I think the comfort are ok on those.
Its for changing to winter tires. The stock 21 summertires are ok i think ( maybe i will consider lighter 20’s for summer, but it’s not that big of a deal.
For winter with 19, i will het slightly better range, tires are more cheap, added comfort , silence etc,,, I can’t use the full potensial of the car this winter anyway, so i guess 19 is the way to go! We‘re having -16c allready, and roads with ice, so i have to drive carefully anyway 😚
@@Jungelungen agree. Go for 19". A lot of weight saving and money saving
Hi, please give me a link where you bought the rims, I also want to put similar rims on the tesla model y long range, thank you
www.gummihuset.se/aluminiumfalg/ocean-everblue-gp6-matt-black-85x19
Thanks for the quick reply, but I can't handle the website in Swedish at all, can you give me a contact email of this company so I can ask them if they send the rims to Romania?
seems like there's is alot of resellers for ocean rims. Try this site: global.scstyling.com/falgar-dack/falgar/ocean?culture=en-GB¤cy=EUR&channelCountry=NL&channel=Global
@@ItsOnlyElectric thanks!
i have Hakka R3's on my car. It's not an EV but like you said, after 70km/hr, i hear a faint hum. nice review.
Yes. Now I'm used to it but when switching back to the summer setup I will feel the absence of the hum. 🙂
Hur många mm er det på centrumkåpan till dem nya fälgarna?
56mm. Köpte från Tåssla men dom började rosta efter 1månad. Klarar uppenbarligen inte vinter.
what are the offsets on those 19" wheels? look great!
ET40. Same dimensions all around.
I would have like to know where you ordered your rims from. Also, a video shot of them from the side of the car with the sun shining on it would have been better. They were hard to see with the shadows. I have a model Y performance and was thinking about buying 19" wheels for the winter to see if that would help with ride quality but didn't get much commentary on ride quality. You used to be able to order a MYP with 19" wheels. I think Tesla won't sell them to new MYP owners because of the speed rating of the tire.
Posted some pictures on the community tab. Hope it's easier too se the result.
Rims from gummihuset.se
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Är det märkbar tystare med däck som har foam tycker du?
Svårt att säga om man inte kör med och sedan utan skum. Men jag tycker att det är tystare.
I was thinking the exact same thing with the exact wheels. The ride of MYP on 21 is just crap to me but is it safe?
It's not for performance driving. The 21" gives you much better support while driving hard. But for regular driving they works fine.
The reason Tesla would not sell you smaller rims and tyres is that they are not allowed on the model Y performance in Sweden (and probably also elsewhere in Europe). The only dimensions allowed are stated on the driver side doorframe and on your "registreringsbevis". Even if smaller rims will fit, which Tesla told me they will do, they are not allowed on this car model. I have the same car MYP and decided to bite the bullit and buy 21" winter tires.
No that is not correct. You can use whatever wheels you want on your car as long as you follow the list criterias/rules that are stated.
For more info about the rules in Sweden:
www.transportstyrelsen.se/sv/vagtrafik/fordon/fordonsregler/dack/dackbyte-pa-personbil/
In a sense you’re right. However it says that if you deviate from what’s in the documentation for your car you do so at your own risk and responsibility.
Does it affect your speed 0-60?
Yes. Not as fast with the winter tires. But that's more the tires not the wheel setup as such.
Will they fit? Is it legal in your country???
Yes it is legal as long as you follow the rules. Right load index, right speed index, right dimensions and so on.
Ist looks good 👍 It is allowed in sweden 18“ rims on a Model Y? I belive in Germany we Fan only Uwe 19“ ,20“ Ort 21“ rims.🤔
I know that there's third party 18" wheels that fits on the car.
I have alredy seen my mistake 🙄. Evan the energy Label shows 215/55 18“ , the rims are realy 19“.
@@whynot5852 someone put the wrong sticker on your tires?
@@whynot5852 If you go third party its very important to look at:
- Load capacity of rims (how many kgs per rim they handle, they should handle the total allowed weight of car / 4)
- Track width (not overly missing OEM specs or you might get rubbing.
- Rim width (not too narrow rims, tire should not stretch too much)
Tire OD (outer diameter) - try to stay as close to OEM OD as possible, use a tiresize calculator to check dimensions vs dimensions which came with your car. In Norway its legal to do +-5% difference, but staying as close as possible to OEM sizing is a smart thing.
- Tire load
- Tire wear index (some tires wear very fast)
- Max speed tires are rated for (YP can do 250km/h).
In Norway the best studless winter tires in 2022 are:
1. Nokian Hakkapeliitta R5 SUV - 87 poeng
2. Goodyear UltraGrip Ice 2 - 81 poeng
3. Continental VikingContact 7 - 79 poeng
4. Michelin X-Ice Snow SUV - 78 poeng
5. Falken Winterpeak F-Snow 1 - 75poeng
6. Bridgestone Blizzak DM-V3 - 66 poeng
7. Kumho WinterCraft WS51 - 55 poeng
8. Mazzini Snowleopard LX - 53 poeng
But I would just choose one in top 5, maybe in top 4. Reason is that you have a lot of weight and a lot of torque.
Have been using the Nokian R3 on Model 3 Performance, but if I were to buy something outside of Tesla for tires I would look at CVC7 or Ultragrip ICE3 or X-ICE.
Reason is that the nokians are a bit too soft I think, they are best on ice - but I live on west coast of Norway so we have a lot of days with just rain in the winter . So the Nokians are more for colder parts of Norway or other countries.
So I would for my usage look at UG2, CVC7 or X-ICE.
The nokians have been good, but as you say they rumble and they feel like rubber... You accellerate and you feel your tires left you and suddenly you get dragged back :P Rubber band effect.
Great info and I totally agree!
Half of the vid is this guy talking in his stationary Tesla. WTF? How is the ride quality !???
If you listen to what I say you may hear me talk about the ride quality. 😉 had some videos driving around, but got some issues with the sound quality and scrapped it. Would it be better to just see me drive around and let you summarize it your self by judging the movement of the camera? 😂
OMG. MYP with 19“ looks realy ugly. It doesn’t matter it’s the MYP or LR. But the MYP without 21“ is like a BMW without M-Package.
Based on your post, you seem to care a lot about what other people think. You’ll be much happier in life if you do what makes you happy.