Vice Pro VS Titleist ProV1 // Can you save money on premium golf balls?
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
- Testing the new 2020 Vice Pro golf ball against the gold standard Titleist ProV1 to see what differences may come up in speed, launch, spin and durability.
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Please test Vice Pro+ against the Pro V1X. But more importantly, please test the Snell MTB and MTB-X against the Pro V's as well. Thanks guys
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Snell 4 life 🤙🏻
I’d love to see you guys create a golf ball chart. Based on Ian’s fitting experience with different balls. Have some kind of chart that shows, these balls spin the most, these spin the less, these launch higher these are faster. And maybe split them up in a swing speed bracket.... I know asking a lot! But I think people could do a lot of troubleshooting of their own ball flights if they utilized information that you provide which is non biased compared to what every ball advert says that it’s the best, fastest most played, spins more goes further blah blah blah
Would love to see the prov1x vs the pro plus, as that's what I'm playing
I agree. I started playing the vice balls. I’d love to see all the Vice types tested against the other Big Brands balls.
Throw in the left dash and Snell MTB-X, and you’ve got yourself a best-of long ball challenge.
Look at the MyGolfSpy ball test and play with the widget at the bottom. You can select which balls to compare.
I use Vice Pro, according to their testing the Vice Pro Plus' dispersion is significantly worse than, V Pro, ProV1, & ProV1x.
@@henrylipscomb5660 Only thing there is that the MyGolfSpy test is based on the 2019 ball, both Vice and Titleist have new balls for 2020.
@@kevinallibone9214 That's true, but I think it gives a reasonably good reference.
Vice Pro seems to have improved ball speed slightly since then. So it's possible Pro Plus has improved dispersion since then, but for me if a robot has trouble hitting it consistently that's a big red flag for me. Hence, why I use Vice Pro, and I love them. On my second 5 dozen bulk buy.
Ok now we need the tree test and the cart path test .
I'd only need to play one hole to put the ball through the 'tree + cart path + skulled wedge' durability test.
In addition the the Pro +, I would love to see the Snell MTB X tested against the Pro V1X. I've played that a lot this year and have been thoroughly impressed.
The Snell is the best bang for the buck as far as I'm concerned. I'm a believer and Snell player.
Not sure if you've seen it, but Today's Golfer did a robot test of 21 different balls, including the ones you mentioned. I won't link to it here, but you can search for it using that information. Pretty illuminating. Snell MTB Black is my gamer. I used the X last year, and tried the Red before that (which was unusable for me, as a high spin player). Big fan of both of Snell's current offerings.
Snell struggles in the wind in my experience but I haven’t tried them since 2018. Maybe I’ll give it another go
JungleLarry oh interesting. I’ll check that out, thank you for sharing.
EDP's Poop Sock hmmm, I haven’t found that to be an issue with the MTB X, but I have noticed it is sensitive to spin axis tilt so draws and fades are more pronounced than say a Pro V1 X or Bridgestone Tour BX
Would love to see a ball test of the new Snell MTBx vs the TP5x and Prov1x!
Would love tro see this to!!! Keep up the great work guys love the channel
I found one of the Vice Pro Plus golf balls on my golf course and I was totally shocked at the distance, control, spin, and durability of the 2020 balls.
Playing the ball for 4 rounds before I lost it in a water hazard, the ball was amazingly similar to the Titleist ProV1 X ball or the TaylorMade TP5-X, but for some reason I was hitting it a little farther and I scored some of the best rounds of the year with it. So I decided to purchase some and ordered the 5 Dozen Lime Green Vice Pro Plus golf balls, because the prize to buy 5 dozen dropped to $25 a dozen! I am simply amazed at how well they perform and in all categories, especially off the tee. Irons, hybrids, chipping & putting, is outstanding....just like the other top two golf balls, but for some reason it just has that bit more roll out or flight than the them with the driver. I am completely overwhelmed by these balls and could not recommend them more highly.
BTW - I love the "Lime" green" balls, simply because they are much easier for me to pick up the flight and see the lines on the greens.
Would love to see something like a Snell/Bridgestone/ProV1 comp video.
Played the vice pro+ yesterday and shot pb of 73. They felt terrific and used 2 balls with no blemishs at all. Love them.
Fantastic video guys! I have always been a ProV1 loyalist, but law school has eaten into my golf budget. I recently switched to the Vice and love them. Great performance.
Snell MTBx vs ProV1x please!
100% please test the Pro + to a Pro V. I would also LOVE to see a VICE Pro, Pro+ and Pro Soft test comparing each. I have been searching for that, and have played all 3 myself, and having some data would be fantastic. I love how nerdy you help me get with gear!
Great video, guys! I played the pro v for years until switching to the Vice Pro last and have not looked back! The vice pro checks every box for me at almost half the price. And my scoring average has gone down a stroke and a half the last year. I play at a 4 handicap, been playing 40 years, and this ball does exactly what the Titleist does for me. Trust the video also and give the vice pro a try. You will not be disappointed.
I play the Snell MTB-x. Any chance for a head-to-head comparison among the "direct-to-consumer" brands?
yea, would love to see wedge spin specifically on the mtb-x
I've been playing Vice Pro plus for over a year now. Got the new version three weeks ago. Fantastic ball. I found a new version of Vice Pro and holed my tee shot on a short par 4. What a ball!
Thank you for addressing the question of quality from ball to ball. Would have been my number one question. Good job guys!!!
yes... playing the Vice Pro Plus for a few years now.... ordered the 2020 versions earlier this year. Ran out of my older Vice balls last week... now playing the new ones... very.. very nice!
Would love to see you review the Snell MTB-X. Love your content gents, keep smashing it!
I’ve literally been lurking on the vice website debating buying some of these because my driver has been crazy inconsistent lately and I’m tired of spraying my ProV1’s into the woods. Thanks for this. Time to order some budget balls while I figure out my swing faults.
Just ordered 5 dozen pro plus. Was playing TP5x exclusively for 3 years. Joined a new club with a very tight links profile with LOTS of thick fescue. Got through ~100 rounds last year with 6 dozen balls at the old club, but have lost count this season. Great to see I’m getting great quality and performance.
Really liked the comments on the durability. Really helps fully understand the value proposition!
I've been using Vice Pro's for a few weeks now. I'm a mid handicapper. I loose balls from time to time. I feel way more comfortable using the Vice balls knowing I didn't spend a fortune to put them in play like I would with the Pro V1's. I ordered 5 dozen for $24ish and some change. They cost me less than 3 dozen Pro V's would have cost me. This test makes me even happier with my decision. Thanks Guys.
Stumbled onto your channel and now a new subscriber. Really enjoy your no nonsense scientific approach to reviews and tests. Keep up the great work!
I started using the Vice Pro a year and half ago and love them. I'm a mid/high handicapper and have helped my game and wallet.
You somehow manage to bring out the right videos at just the right times as I was just wondering this morning what the Vice Pro balls would be like to play with. Good to see a solid comparison I can trust with no bias!
Would love that test! Really happy to see the Vice performing so well.
Love to see you do this with snell mtb x and Srixon xv
I’ve been playing the Vice Pro Plus. I’d love to see you guys test those as well!
Ive been playing pro and pro plus for a couple of years. Other than the occasional(one out of 2 dozen) single ball that just feels and flies weird, they are FANTASTIC for the value. Im really glad you guys showed the numbers for everybody to see.
The first time I played Pro V1 balls, the early early version, I snap hooked two of them into a water hazard on the first hole. Since then my criteria for ball purchases have been 1. Are they round? 2. Do they cost less than dinner?
Actually, I really liked the Srixon balls that you are/ were using in your fitting sessions. For me, they’re perfect.
Just purchased my first 5 doz. Vice Pro balls. Excellent balls. They dance on the green with my wedges and stop quick on mid irons. I love the soft feel when putting. I used one of the ball for an entire back 9 and it did have some cosmetic blemishes at the end. That said I shot a 38 on that back and I’m a 15 handicap so I’m not complaining. Super happy with my purchase thus far.
I switched from old Nike MOJO to the Vice Pro and love them! I am a high handicap golfer and do not want to spend the money to play a ProV1 or TP5 and the Vice Pro is awesome. More distance, more control, more consistency. I would love to see how the Vice Pro+ compares to the ProV1x.
Looking forward tot the PLUS test guys! Great content, I have been playing VICE balls for quite some time now...
1:41 part of why I play Titleist is that they are the touchstone that all other manufacturers use to describe their golf balls. That and I shot an 81 at Pebble with the left dash (which I wouldn’t have even heard of were it not for this channel, so... thanks guys 🤘😀
bit of a Golf beginner and ordered the Vice variety pack to try them all - working through the set
I keep searching for a reason to not spend $50/dz on ProVs, and this sure seems to be getting close to being the real deal for a semi-serious golfer. I've tried so many different brands and balls only to go back and hit a ProV and it feel just so right. I might have to try these if the sound and feel is nearly identical to a ProV. Would love to see the Pro Plus review as well.
Probably a good ball for players that like to Draw their Driver - some added spin to reduce the magnitude of the toe'y diving hookball
Spin helps with duck hooks? I always figured it was too much spin...
@@kgeyedoc the draw that becomes a diving hook is falling out of the air because it doesn't have enough backspin to hold the ball 'more' online and in the air. I'm not talking about a high in the air 50 yard overdraw that is because of poor face to path control and induced curvature. Modern drivers have all become lower spinning - trying to find that optimal & playable 2000-2300 rpm spin window - but 1700rpms is a cliff where if you have any spin axis tilt and don't have enough speed and angle of launch then draws have a way of diving hard and left (right-handers) - so using a ball with 300 more rpms of spin can literally save your drive - but you will give up a few yards of carry. All of the previous is why many of the tour guys live in the 2300-2500 spin window with their drivers - they have enough speed and launch and that little extra spin 'controls' the curvature at the expense of a few yards more carry - and mostly all of them have moved to hitting fades (which is basically a 1 word summary of all of the above)
I've been trialling a Vice Pro + against TP5 and Pro V1 for months now and it's really good.
Switched from the V1x to the Vice Pro this year and love it. I play a Mavrik Subzero driver, so didn’t need to worry about driver spin.
Thanks TXG. Awesome testing and love to see more testing against Vice pro Vs who ever!
I do like the vice ball....but I've been playing bridgestones lately....i appreciate what the vice are doing ...good job guys
Would love to see the pro plus! I made the switch earlier this year from pv1 to the pro plus. Just got six boxes so I’m set for a while. Love them and didn’t see any drop in performance on the course. If anything I seemed to be able to spin wedges a little better. But I’m sure that’s more strike than ball. In any case, I’m a vice believer especially for the price.
Same interest for the test for pro plus vs Pro V1x, but also vice vs Snell. Good work guys.
Fantastic review. I’ve been playing vice for 3 yrs. Great to see Vice finally getting the credit it deserves
I have been waiting for this. The 2020 version of vice has been loads better on durability. I play the pro+ neon and I haven't seen any issues yet
ProV1x vs. Pro+ please! We are counting on y’all for the reliable test results.
Nice to see a little Munich Start-Up from around the corner in my homecountry to fight Titleist at the ball market with their unique concept. Looking forward to see ProV1x vs ProPlus. Here in Germany they support the golf league with their good deals for players. Really nice guys.
Yes, definitely interested in seeing the pro plus vs prov1x
Is there a chance you could review the Vice Pro Zero?
Noone has a video on the ball and I think you could do it some justice. Especially with the variety of golfers doing the testing on the channel.
Really love the content guys! Just started golfing recently and I have picked up so many useful tips because of the channel. Thank you!
+1 for this request. Very interest in the Pro Zero
Been playing Vice for a season. Awesome. Won’t change
Yes. Love to See how the plus version performs
Yes please to the Pro Plus vs Pro V1x. Great to see the reviews on more affordable products!
I've been playing the vice pro lime now for 4yrs and can tell you unless your a pro or have all the money in the world its identical to the name brand balls at twice the price. They will occasionally have deals in the golf magazines where they give a promo for a free dozen if you buy 5 or register your birthday and they will give you free dozen as well. They are a stand up company as when I had just bought 5 dozen of the older ones I emailed them saying can I swap for the new ones. They said they can't do that, but sent me a free dozen just to try. I can't say enough great things about Vice as a company and the products they make. Cheers
Lol. Love them tryna scrutinize like they aren’t the same. I’d love to quibble about 4 yards when I’m hitting over 300. 😂😂
Vice are the best! Glad you are doing this review. Best deal in golf.
Great video guys! Love the content of your channel! Yes, please test the Vice Pro Plus as well. I am playin it for about 2 years and really love it!
Great video and good to see a comparative ball test. Would love to see more of these.👍
Would love to see more ball videos. Balls are the most confusing piece of equipment to me and I would love to see all major balls put against each other to know what each one is meant to do
Great test, in my tests I find the same, however, the lime ball is painted and the durability is horrendous compared to the yellow pro v1 which is made with a yellow cover.
Switched to Vice this year because I couldn't afford to loose all the pro Vs. I've loved them, play the pro + and I haven't noticed any inconsistencies
Definitely Pro plus vs prov1x
Play the Vice Pro Plus in yellow.. will never switch, price point for that minimal difference it’s a no brainer
Great video- I play pro plus and from experience it spins great around the greens, with wedges and mid irons. I have always thought the pro v1x might just go further when I hit driver. This proves it for me. That being said the pro plus is great value for the money and I will continue playing it.
Still prefer the OnCore Elixr..... Would love to see you do the Pro-V1 vs the new OnCore Vero as well. Will even pay to have them sent over :-)
For a mid handicapper (10) this is a great test for me. If I can save some money and not be upset when I donate one to the trees I’m pretty pleased. This performance test, at my level, says I’m not going to be able to see a huge difference between these two golf balls. Thanks guys for confirming that I don’t need to buy top of the line.
Next episode: MyGolfSpy cans the robot and just borrows Matty! Kids unreal consistent on the monitor.
In studio
I was disappointed in their course video because he was spraying the ball all over
@@Golden3ye and yet on what for him was a bad ball striking day still shot near to par. I wish I was as bad at spraying the ball all over....
OLDGOLD a lot of truth to that.
@@oldgold5848 I'd take his "bad day" any time!
You gentlemen are producing amazing content! Thank you for keeping your content current and relevant to your viewers and subscribers!
I played the Vice Pro for a couple of years (5 cap). It was a really good ball all round, as this video found, it was basically a Pro V1 but did feel it gave up a bit of distance off the tee. The reason I stopped playing it though was quality. Over the two seasons I played it I had two instances that led me to drop it. First, a newish ball formed a big crack around half the perimeter after 27 holes of normal play. Weird. No impacts with trees, cart paths etc. Then, months later on a brand new ball I noticed a finger nail-sized chunk of urethane had fallen off the ball when I approached the green. It was the first hole and I’d literally pegged up a brand new ball and hit a driver and a pitching wedge with it. Good ball, but I couldn’t trust it after that. I sent Vice photos of the second ball and they didn’t want to know either, so that was that for me.
Vice Pro plus is my gamer and I love the feel anywhere on course! The Vice logo is also a classic and timeless look right there with the look of titleist logo.
I found a couple of Vice Pro out in the course... They beautiful looking golf balls.
I’ve been playing the Pro+ for 2 seasons now. Really happy with the performance and cost. Please test the Pro+
Yes would like to see the other vice ball against the pro v1x. Thanks
As an 18 handicapper with a lower swing speed, I use the Vice Tour. I would be interested in seeing it tested against whatever ball you think is comparable.
I've been playing the Vice Pro for a few months now and also play the PRO-V1, I can't tell the difference other than Titleist is the premium brand name but that's really in my head. The bottom line for me is neither of these balls has a negative impact on my ball-striking or scores. It comes down to saving money. I basically play the Vice Pro for everyday rounds and PRO-V1s for tournament and league play... I give the Psychological edge goes to Titleist or more honestly my name brand Vaness goes to Titleist but the pragmatic side goes to Vice!
Currently playing the Vice Pro!!! Looking forward to the comparison.
Awesome stuff guys! Been playing the Vice Pro for the last year, good to know the 2020 model is on par with the old one.
Snell MTB-X
To help save on cost, I play the ProV1 practice (which tends to be a mix of V1 and V1X) and Taylormade now sells the TP5 Practice. $30 a dozen and my understanding is they only have cosmetic blemishes. I will also play Srixon Zstar XV when Srixon does the buy one get one free sale.
you mentioned nothing big in the golf ball space recently but callaway finally brought the new chrome soft x to market. it’s getting rave reviews, would love for you guys to try it.
Yes please on the Vice Pro +, and maybe add the last gen Pro + into the mix as well
Definitely do the Vice Pro Plus vs ProV1x. I use the Vice Pro Plus quite often.
I can vouch for the durability of the Vice balls; I'm a relatively high handicapper, and managed to play one ball for 88 strokes last weekend. I put it back in the "use these balls for the bulk of a game again" part of my bag (as opposed to the "use these balls when you think you might lose one" part). Really good value for $30 a dozen (although I tend to use Kirklands more, just because I'm bad enough that losing balls gets expensive; the course I played last weekend didn't have a lot of water or impenetrable rough, so I "splurged.").
Love the video guys, won a sleeve of the vice pro balls at a scramble a couple of weeks ago and have been very curious about them, this helped answer most of my questions.
You guys should try out the Cut Grey golf balls. I got a dozen at Walmart for $20, and they're also a 3 piece golf ball with a urethane cover. I've played a couple rounds with them this year and they might be my favorite ball currently since I lose a good amount of balls when I golf. There aren't a lot of videos out about the cut greys, and I would love to see the numbers on a launch Monitor compared to these balls from this video!
For sure please do Pro Plus. Would be good to see those numbers compared to Pro also and see if they fit the styles that Vice's ball recommender spits out.
I have been playing the Vice Pro this season and so far a great all around golf ball for the price!
Ian, just a thought about the Vice testing. Whilst it is great to see Matt pounding the ball out there, not many of us mere mortals have his swing speed. What would be good would be to see these tests done with Matt and someone with say a 100 mph swing speed, This would obviously have a big impact on spin rates. Then you could get a good comparison of which type of player they best suit.
Please give the Pro Plus a test. Played the Vice Pro for a few years and switched to the Pro Plus this season. Both are great!
Amazing test! Really appreciate these videos and the work you put in to help us golfers make good purchases. Awesome!!
Yes please test the plus version. I’m hoping that it good for me as a spinner if the ball. (But also prone to losing a few off the tee).
Yes test the Pro+. Would also like to see your take on the Snell MTB > ProV1 and Snell MTP-X > ProV1x.
All the ball tests are great. The wife and I play OnCore Elixr. My handicap is too high to constantly lose ProV
Great info for sure. Let us not forget that is also important how well each does in the wind and when wet. My guess is that balls like Titleist, Taylormade, and Bridgestone would still be better in the wind :)... Keep up the great work.
Would love to see MTB X vs pro1x vs pro+
I would love to see the vice pro x comparison. This video validated my thoughts, although I haven’t been able to leave the premium priced ball.
YES! Please do a test comparison!
Would love to see also a review of the Vice Pro Soft. If possible in a direct comparison to the Taylormade Tour Response and Titleist Tour Speed as all of them are the entry level of urethane cover for moderate swing speed.
Yes please Pro V1x test. I managed to pick up some left dash pro v1x in the uk really liking them
Snell MTB is a great direct to consumer ball. Not a fan of the vice. Might be in my head but could not like it. Seemed less durable but that was a year or more now. Likely improvement by now.
I’ve been playing vice lately, and my only gripe is that the paint holds grass stains and residue easily; even in dry conditions. If you play 2 holes, it looks like you’ve played 2 rounds with it. It’s durable, but i catch myself having to clean it off a lot.
You guys should check out the Snell balls out next. Both the MTB-X and MTB Black. They are my go to balls and love them. Also being desigend by Dean Snell should be interesting to see how they perform in your testing. Great content as always!