I think playing the same ball consistently is of greater importance in terms of control and scoring, than playing the most optimal ball. As long as you get really familar with a ball like trufeel, and you've got experience with how much it rolls out and how it flies, then the lack of greenside spin and so on isn't a big deal for anyone over a single digit handicap
Players with a handicap greater than 18 have absolutely no interest in playing with a Pro V1. They will not play better, they will not go further and they will be very annoyed when they inevitably end up losing them. The trufeel is a perfect choice. On the other hand if you have a decent angle of path and angle of attack, if you hit more or less on the sweet spot and if you have a swing speed (with the driver) of at least 90 mph then the Pro V1 is definitely one of the best golf ball. Thank you for this interesting video.
Great video. Been playing tru feels for about a year now. The greenside spin is definitely noticeable when comparing to my playing partners premium balls but as I like to chip and run the ball it works a treat for me. Great video!
New subscriber here. That's about the fairest take on the Pro V / Trufeel balls that i've seen on RUclips. Excellent work, and i thought your summary was right on the nose (at least from what i've seen from my own game). One other quick note: The cover of the Trufeel ball is really tough. It'll take a beating and maintain performance much better than the Pro V's. Assuming you don't lose balls, you'll be even better off $-wise with the Trufeel.
Historically played ProV1 but don’t play very often anymore and bought these with no knowledge and was very surprised by performance especially as a value ball. Feel soft but perform shockingly well throughout range of clubs. The RUclips reviews confirm what I felt even with top golfers so at my slightly slower swing speeds I don’t think I could find a better value ball. Visually seeing Titleist logo is also appealing which is a mental thing but that is golf and brings confidence
Former Titleist staff player here. I used to play the Pro V1*, which was amazing! I cannot work out why they discontinued it; however, when I mess around with the left - X vs. the regular X and just a Pro V1 these days, it is getting harder to tell the difference between any of them based on feel, and I don't have access to a quad or trackman on a regular basis. I really enjoyed this in-depth statical review, just earned a new subscriber.
btw guys if your concerned about the difference in ball speed, this guy has a really high swing speed, and is hitting a low compression ball. If you have an average swing speed or even slower, the trufeel will probably go further for you.
Exactly right. His swing speed is pushing the ball beyond the limits it’s designed for. If you are hitting the ball 300 yds, spend the extra money on ProV. If you hit it 250 or less, you’ll get and extra 5 yards out of the TruFeel. As you noted this is due to the compression rates.
I just bought 2 dozen TruFeels and am looking forward to trying them out. From all reviews I've seen, they should be a good fit for my game. I like a soft feel off my putter and am anxious to see how they roll for me. Thanks for the review, good stuff.
SENIOR golfer here, 9 handicap - the tru feel is best for my game off tee and around greens, play lots of golf in wind on links style courses where have to hit lots of approach shots on front of green and bounce on, but if try and fire in at pin with a pro v hits and goes over the back, also most around greens hit lots of low running chips with 8, 7 irons and hybrids, still get a good roll out with the tru feel which get used to and adjust. as for pitch shots into green, after time can adjust to the hop and bounce of tru feel.I also play tru feel, AD333, & Q star all play same for my game. Also club golfers note that the only ball I ever seem to find in rough are Pro Vs, and ahvent brought any for about 5 years.
I started playing 5 months ago after not playing regularly for over 40 years and not even hitting a ball for over 25 years. For me the feel of the ball chipping and pitching from under 50 yards and the feel of the ball when putting is most important because that's what makes the difference of shooting in the 90s or well over the 100s. I currently play Callaway Supersofts after picking one up on one of my 1st rounds and playing it for a few holes (and really liked the feel) before spanking it into the woods. I tend to stick to a particular brand and model of ball so that the feel (good or bad) is always consistant. I do occasionally go out to my local members course and pick a few balls up from the woods As it's quite exclusive the majority of the balls are premium I currently have around 40x ProV1s most of which look new. I hit my 3wood and Driver around 230yards (total) the driver carries around 215-220 according to trackman. I'm still working on my setup routine to try to get consistancy that I can replicate on the course and have a fallback when it all starts to go wrong. I'm under no illusion that If I swapped to the Pro V1s I'd suddenly be hitting the ball any longer or chipping closer to the pin. If I play a 56 wedge from say 50 yards I expect it to bounce check and stop ( yes my reasonably good short game has largely remained intact after all these years)my aim is sometimes a little off hence working on a setup routine. I tend to stay away from hard distance balls as they have no feel and I don't hit fast enough or out of the middle consistantly enough to get any benefit from them. what I want is a soft feel ball that spins up on wedge shots for control to put me close enough to leave no more than 2 putts. My aim when I started was to break 100 inside 6 months ( did that on my 5th round) and break 90 within a year .
I've used the TruFeel quite a bit. There is absolutely no way I'm paying the $60 per dozen I just saw this weekend at Scheel's for the Pro V1x. I keep within 4 or 5 strokes of par per nine and TruFeel work just fine for me.
I like everything about the Trufeel except for the green side spin or lack thereof. I like a soft feeling ball. My swing speed with the driver is just under 90, sometimes I can get around to 92 but most of the time not. But I am a good short game player and can make it it check and stop pretty quickly on chips when I am using the right ball. I can tell a big difference in performance between different balls. The Pro V's and PXG balls work best for me in that regard. Encore Aeros are also up there with them. I refuse to pay what ProV's cost, though and they feel a bit too hard for my liking. But in every other aspect I really like the TruFeels. Especially the red ones because That's really the only color I can see from strike to landing any more.
Only 300 yard drivers I made were with Trufeels and not Pro V. At 105 MPH it produced the correct spin to keep the ball airborne. I just adjust my chips and pitches you adjust for 15% more rollout.
Use Truefeel on your recommendations good and consistent, find the cover cracks quickly in the cold. Yes soft is slow lol Just trying few different balls now. As my golf improves after my Iron and Driver fitting I finding that the Tour response feels good on the face. Also started to get ball to check more. I need to fully commit myself to each shot! Thanks Ross
Thanks for doing this video, it confirms what another video showed. There they also compared these 2 balls with velocity and avx. Trufeel was better and its cheaper 👍 Perhaps another place to test would be a simulated bunker shot.
Thanks bud! Yeah it's a very good ball 👌👌would be great for so many amateurs. Not sure you can really simulate a bunker shot tbf 🤔 plus in all honesty a bunkers really the only place the face shouldn't be touching the ball at all so performance shouldn't differ too much 👍
@@epgolfstudios we still want spin out of the bunker, but I can now see how it would be inaccurate to do in studio since as u pointed out the club doesnt touch the ball at all sometimes. But I'm sure for the longer green side bunker shot where one tries to take less sand, the club does touch to some degree?
Ross, Ping have an online ball fitting tool (ballnamics) which is based on very comprehensive real ball flight data, unfortunately it’s currently not available outside the USA (ignoring workarounds). I personally play Pro V1, although I know it compromises my peak height and land angles (my username explains why) I much prefer the feel and short game performance. With my modest swing speed, I find the low compression ‘budget’ balls have significantly higher peak height but lower spin pretty much through the bag. Good for carry but not great for control. Keep up the good content and hopefully the channel will continue to grow.
Just looking at numbers, especially standard deviation, the true feel looks slightly better. Your swing speed overpowered ball w driver, but avg player would probably play better true feel would likely be better. I purchased these for 15 year old son and he plays great with them. Just ordered 240 more of them as he plays 4 days per week.
Main difference is the feel of the ball tbh. Hitting pro v 1's so much makes other cheaper balls feel like you just put a damn rock up on the tee, lmao.
Soft is slow so it’s driver and chip shots. Trufeel launches crazy high on chips which better players see. Higher HC may not notice as much but it’s just weird around the greens imo
Thanks Niall! And yeah both of those balls are also really good. They would be better as round the greens than the TruFeel but also launch and spin really well with mid irons. Driver you would also see less ball speed drop off 👌 might get round to a test of them at some point, although I'm not sure my back can take many more of the 200 shit videos 😂😂
I play the truth feel yellow. I have tried the pro V one but to me it’s just a little hard and I do have a slow swing speed, but I prefer a softer ball plus I can handle the price other than that I don’t know if I would ever try to pro one again unless I found one I’m going to just stick with the two thank you for the video.
New video suggestion : everyone thinks the tsr1 is for slow swingers, but Nelly Korda gamed it and recently ditched the stealth 2 hd to go back to the tsr1. Seen a test where tsr1 was just as forgiving as the famed g430 max. Could you kindly do a high swing speed tsr 1 review at 9 , 10 deg? and if possible vs the stealth 2 hd (better yet with the ball Nelly uses).
You must have said "feel" 500 times. Use head phones, mark over the logos and tell us again what you "feel"... And you are hitting it a lot faster than 99.9999% of your viewers.
11.6 handicap Played the AD333 for few years now. No real complaints, maybe lose 1-2 balls a round if that. Can’t see me ever going over the £2 per ball price point. Have always been interested in a proper professional ball fitting. I just believe they are too hard to find and get to here in the UK.
Tbf the new AD333 is pretty good. The old one uses to be super low spin which isn't great for most amateurs. Yes I agree! It's just almost impossible really. As a proper ball fitting would need to be outside off turf with a trackman. You'd need literally hundreds of balls, obviously all of the different balls, and really a private range/short game area. It's possible but would cost a lot! And you're never gonna make much from ball fittings 😂
Great vid…I’ve historically used tru feel as it is super soft off the face of the putter which I like…and performance seems pretty much identical for someone of my standard (10hcp)…I do use proV from time to time but only when I buy them from the ‘nearly new seconds bin’ for £2 a ball…works out the same price as the trufeel. As an aside…do you know when you are getting the new t150 irons in for fittings?
Thanks Mark! And yeah completely agree, for the price it's a great ball, especially if you want that soft feel!! Yes we have the new Titlesit irons in now for fittings 👍 videos pending!
The confidence when hitting a ball that works for you definitely transposes to the shots regardless of price. I’d like to see Lake ball v new ball test.⛳️🏌🏻👍🏻 Thanks Ross 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
100% mate! And Yes!! Great idea! We spoke about that a while ago and I completely forgot about it! Plenty of videos to do this month with all the new iron releases but I'll definitely get to doing that at some point 👍
I think playing the same ball consistently is of greater importance in terms of control and scoring, than playing the most optimal ball. As long as you get really familar with a ball like trufeel, and you've got experience with how much it rolls out and how it flies, then the lack of greenside spin and so on isn't a big deal for anyone over a single digit handicap
Players with a handicap greater than 18 have absolutely no interest in playing with a Pro V1. They will not play better, they will not go further and they will be very annoyed when they inevitably end up losing them. The trufeel is a perfect choice.
On the other hand if you have a decent angle of path and angle of attack, if you hit more or less on the sweet spot and if you have a swing speed (with the driver) of at least 90 mph then the Pro V1 is definitely one of the best golf ball.
Thank you for this interesting video.
Great video. Been playing tru feels for about a year now. The greenside spin is definitely noticeable when comparing to my playing partners premium balls but as I like to chip and run the ball it works a treat for me. Great video!
New subscriber here. That's about the fairest take on the Pro V / Trufeel balls that i've seen on RUclips. Excellent work, and i thought your summary was right on the nose (at least from what i've seen from my own game). One other quick note: The cover of the Trufeel ball is really tough. It'll take a beating and maintain performance much better than the Pro V's. Assuming you don't lose balls, you'll be even better off $-wise with the Trufeel.
Historically played ProV1 but don’t play very often anymore and bought these with no knowledge and was very surprised by performance especially as a value ball. Feel soft but perform shockingly well throughout range of clubs. The RUclips reviews confirm what I felt even with top golfers so at my slightly slower swing speeds I don’t think I could find a better value ball. Visually seeing Titleist logo is also appealing which is a mental thing but that is golf and brings confidence
Former Titleist staff player here. I used to play the Pro V1*, which was amazing! I cannot work out why they discontinued it; however, when I mess around with the left - X vs. the regular X and just a Pro V1 these days, it is getting harder to tell the difference between any of them based on feel, and I don't have access to a quad or trackman on a regular basis. I really enjoyed this in-depth statical review, just earned a new subscriber.
btw guys if your concerned about the difference in ball speed, this guy has a really high swing speed, and is hitting a low compression ball. If you have an average swing speed or even slower, the trufeel will probably go further for you.
Exactly right. His swing speed is pushing the ball beyond the limits it’s designed for. If you are hitting the ball 300 yds, spend the extra money on ProV. If you hit it 250 or less, you’ll get and extra 5 yards out of the TruFeel. As you noted this is due to the compression rates.
I just bought 2 dozen TruFeels and am looking forward to trying them out. From all reviews I've seen, they should be a good fit for my game. I like a soft feel off my putter and am anxious to see how they roll for me. Thanks for the review, good stuff.
Another great, in depth video. I lost 7 balls on my last round - guess which ball I’m going to choose?😂
That's why the most found ball in rough and trees is ProV, have not had to buy a ball for 2 years just find everyone else's.
Great vid, love data driven stuff. Keep it coming
Thanks bud 🙌
SENIOR golfer here, 9 handicap - the tru feel is best for my game off tee and around greens, play lots of golf in wind on links style courses where have to hit lots of approach shots on front of green and bounce on, but if try and fire in at pin with a pro v hits and goes over the back, also most around greens hit lots of low running chips with 8, 7 irons and hybrids, still get a good roll out with the tru feel which get used to and adjust. as for pitch shots into green, after time can adjust to the hop and bounce of tru feel.I also play tru feel, AD333, & Q star all play same for my game.
Also club golfers note that the only ball I ever seem to find in rough are Pro Vs, and ahvent brought any for about 5 years.
I started playing 5 months ago after not playing regularly for over 40 years and not even hitting a ball for over 25 years. For me the feel of the ball chipping and pitching from under 50 yards and the feel of the ball when putting is most important because that's what makes the difference of shooting in the 90s or well over the 100s. I currently play Callaway Supersofts after picking one up on one of my 1st rounds and playing it for a few holes (and really liked the feel) before spanking it into the woods. I tend to stick to a particular brand and model of ball so that the feel (good or bad) is always consistant. I do occasionally go out to my local members course and pick a few balls up from the woods As it's quite exclusive the majority of the balls are premium I currently have around 40x ProV1s most of which look new.
I hit my 3wood and Driver around 230yards (total) the driver carries around 215-220 according to trackman. I'm still working on my setup routine to try to get consistancy that I can replicate on the course and have a fallback when it all starts to go wrong. I'm under no illusion that If I swapped to the Pro V1s I'd suddenly be hitting the ball any longer or chipping closer to the pin.
If I play a 56 wedge from say 50 yards I expect it to bounce check and stop ( yes my reasonably good short game has largely remained intact after all these years)my aim is sometimes a little off hence working on a setup routine. I tend to stay away from hard distance balls as they have no feel and I don't hit fast enough or out of the middle consistantly enough to get any benefit from them. what I want is a soft feel ball that spins up on wedge shots for control to put me close enough to leave no more than 2 putts. My aim when I started was to break 100 inside 6 months ( did that on my 5th round) and break 90 within a year .
I've used the TruFeel quite a bit. There is absolutely no way I'm paying the $60 per dozen I just saw this weekend at Scheel's for the Pro V1x. I keep within 4 or 5 strokes of par per nine and TruFeel work just fine for me.
I like everything about the Trufeel except for the green side spin or lack thereof. I like a soft feeling ball. My swing speed with the driver is just under 90, sometimes I can get around to 92 but most of the time not. But I am a good short game player and can make it it check and stop pretty quickly on chips when I am using the right ball. I can tell a big difference in performance between different balls. The Pro V's and PXG balls work best for me in that regard. Encore Aeros are also up there with them. I refuse to pay what ProV's cost, though and they feel a bit too hard for my liking. But in every other aspect I really like the TruFeels. Especially the red ones because That's really the only color I can see from strike to landing any more.
Only 300 yard drivers I made were with Trufeels and not Pro V. At 105 MPH it produced the correct spin to keep the ball airborne.
I just adjust my chips and pitches you adjust for 15% more rollout.
Use Truefeel on your recommendations good and consistent, find the cover cracks quickly in the cold.
Yes soft is slow lol
Just trying few different balls now.
As my golf improves after my Iron and Driver fitting I finding that the Tour response feels good on the face.
Also started to get ball to check more.
I need to fully commit myself to each shot!
Thanks Ross
Thanks for doing this video, it confirms what another video showed. There they also compared these 2 balls with velocity and avx. Trufeel was better and its cheaper 👍
Perhaps another place to test would be a simulated bunker shot.
Thanks bud! Yeah it's a very good ball 👌👌would be great for so many amateurs.
Not sure you can really simulate a bunker shot tbf 🤔 plus in all honesty a bunkers really the only place the face shouldn't be touching the ball at all so performance shouldn't differ too much 👍
@@epgolfstudios we still want spin out of the bunker, but I can now see how it would be inaccurate to do in studio since as u pointed out the club doesnt touch the ball at all sometimes. But I'm sure for the longer green side bunker shot where one tries to take less sand, the club does touch to some degree?
Ross, Ping have an online ball fitting tool (ballnamics) which is based on very comprehensive real ball flight data, unfortunately it’s currently not available outside the USA (ignoring workarounds).
I personally play Pro V1, although I know it compromises my peak height and land angles (my username explains why) I much prefer the feel and short game performance.
With my modest swing speed, I find the low compression ‘budget’ balls have significantly higher peak height but lower spin pretty much through the bag. Good for carry but not great for control.
Keep up the good content and hopefully the channel will continue to grow.
Just looking at numbers, especially standard deviation, the true feel looks slightly better. Your swing speed overpowered ball w driver, but avg player would probably play better true feel would likely be better. I purchased these for 15 year old son and he plays great with them. Just ordered 240 more of them as he plays 4 days per week.
Main difference is the feel of the ball tbh. Hitting pro v 1's so much makes other cheaper balls feel like you just put a damn rock up on the tee, lmao.
Soft is slow so it’s driver and chip shots. Trufeel launches crazy high on chips which better players see. Higher HC may not notice as much but it’s just weird around the greens imo
Hi Ross, good in-depth vid as always. How about the Tour Speed / Soft v Pro V1?
Thanks Niall! And yeah both of those balls are also really good. They would be better as round the greens than the TruFeel but also launch and spin really well with mid irons. Driver you would also see less ball speed drop off 👌 might get round to a test of them at some point, although I'm not sure my back can take many more of the 200 shit videos 😂😂
I play the truth feel yellow. I have tried the pro V one but to me it’s just a little hard and I do have a slow swing speed, but I prefer a softer ball plus I can handle the price other than that I don’t know if I would ever try to pro one again unless I found one I’m going to just stick with the two thank you for the video.
You play "truth feel yellow"? Yeah, right. 😏
Sorry I meant tru feel yellow. Now I’m playing Titleist tour soft and love them.
Good video great information
New video suggestion : everyone thinks the tsr1 is for slow swingers, but Nelly Korda gamed it and recently ditched the stealth 2 hd to go back to the tsr1. Seen a test where tsr1 was just as forgiving as the famed g430 max.
Could you kindly do a high swing speed tsr 1 review at 9 , 10 deg? and if possible vs the stealth 2 hd (better yet with the ball Nelly uses).
Soft is slow if you swing it at 115mph😂 for us mere mortals swinging 95mph the difference is negligible.
You must have said "feel" 500 times. Use head phones, mark over the logos and tell us again what you "feel"... And you are hitting it a lot faster than 99.9999% of your viewers.
11.6 handicap
Played the AD333 for few years now. No real complaints, maybe lose 1-2 balls a round if that. Can’t see me ever going over the £2 per ball price point.
Have always been interested in a proper professional ball fitting. I just believe they are too hard to find and get to here in the UK.
Tbf the new AD333 is pretty good. The old one uses to be super low spin which isn't great for most amateurs.
Yes I agree! It's just almost impossible really. As a proper ball fitting would need to be outside off turf with a trackman. You'd need literally hundreds of balls, obviously all of the different balls, and really a private range/short game area. It's possible but would cost a lot! And you're never gonna make much from ball fittings 😂
Great vid…I’ve historically used tru feel as it is super soft off the face of the putter which I like…and performance seems pretty much identical for someone of my standard (10hcp)…I do use proV from time to time but only when I buy them from the ‘nearly new seconds bin’ for £2 a ball…works out the same price as the trufeel.
As an aside…do you know when you are getting the new t150 irons in for fittings?
Thanks Mark! And yeah completely agree, for the price it's a great ball, especially if you want that soft feel!!
Yes we have the new Titlesit irons in now for fittings 👍 videos pending!
The confidence when hitting a ball that works for you definitely transposes to the shots regardless of price. I’d like to see Lake ball v new ball test.⛳️🏌🏻👍🏻 Thanks Ross 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
100% mate! And Yes!! Great idea! We spoke about that a while ago and I completely forgot about it! Plenty of videos to do this month with all the new iron releases but I'll definitely get to doing that at some point 👍
Chips true feel to 1 inch and it's not good enough ball.