Those are good, even great coaches. Love both these guys and the info they put out there for free. Stan especially has really helped me improve my training and nutrition
Awesome video man. Ive watched alot of video where stan talks about this stuff but to actually see what he picks, what brands he chooses and why. This is the only video on youtube ive ever actually downloaded so i have it forever. Great work thank you for this
Organic food isn"t about extra nutrients, it is about avoiding synthetic pesticides and fertilizers, many of which are persistent environmental pollutants. Organic is one aspect of clean eating that is misunderstood
Great video! I’m coming back here again after recently relocated to a new town where we are more limited to higher fat steaks. It’s very true that having switched to more rib-eye has caused me to not cut weight as easily. Vertical diet is the way to go. I agree fellas, it’s also about how you feel on the diet. And how you feel affects everything.
@@kid319009 thanks. Sometimes even though you have been dieting a while, the fundamentals get lost in the shuffle. I switched to a more top round and this should reduce my calories from fat pretty well.
love following all of this and stans tips. i was already using red meat since im 290(i do have fat to lose) but i like my strength and health and performance being good in the gym, and since i started implementing what he tells us to eat and consume for the Vertical Diet, i feel amazing everyday and my digestion is great!
There's a lot to be learned from watching this vid. Check out the builds of both matt and Stan and its easy to see why they are so strong. A lack of mirror sort ot thing.
Stan! In a previous video you mentioned taking salt up to I believe 15g for some people, dependant on water intake and activity level among other things. You mentioned iodized salt as well being a good choice, but how about Himalayan salt? I ask because I use it and have been wondering about it, and Wenning asked at the end before it cut out. Thanks a bunch both of you for all the content!
There are other factors to consider besides nutrient content with organic foods. Reducing environmental chemical load for one and thinking about the effect of glyophosphates on insects and soil. I don’t want that crap on my food. I would argue that it does matter.
Stan organic is the food or farming methods) produced or involving production without the use of chemical fertilizers, pesticides, or other artificial agents. "organic farming" And if I eat those chemical I have a bad reaction in my stomach ive tested it
It’s true the literature on nutrients in organic vs conventional is not convincing. The difference is just the amount of pesticides used in the cultivation process.
Well meta analysis looking into the nutrient content of conventional vs organic. If you don’t believe any evidence there’s no use in me linking it, right?
Throw that fridge on its side.... you only have to leave new ones for an hour.... But you can lay whatever way you want too... dont believe the idiots... I've moved them alot and even the man. Say you can haha
Vegetable oils are really bad but all the meat all that animal is not right this guy are going to get something down the line in there life with this diet
You see these dudes in public and you may think they're just a couple of muscle heads, but in actuality they're extremely knowledgeable about diet and nutrition. The only criticism I'd give them is about dairy foods (such as yogurt) and calcium. The acids in cows milk eat away at your bones, and so you actually get a net loss of calcium by consuming dairy. Much better ways to get calcium, such as with fruits and vegetables. And even some types of fish.
It’s nice to hear a contrasting opinion once in a while. I agree with Stan that vegetable oils are detrimental and with his stance on caffeine. Rice is also the most calorie dens grain and the amino acids are absorbed significantly faster than in most other grains. Oats are also great but they are higher in protein and fat. I just wonder why he recommends eggs because they pose a risk for salmonella even when hard boiled. I know these strongman need over 8 or even 9000kcal but the amount of saturated fats and cholesterol is just rediculous on the arteries. I hope at one point both athletes can transition away to other protein and fat sources.
Wenning Strength didn’t you also lose weight? At least you were talking about losing weight in the vlog with Thor. From what I’ve seen a heart attack proof serum ldl level is 50-70ml/dl. But good to hear you had positive changes!
Jason blahas favorite bodybuilder I think because of subsidies eggs are cheap in a lot of Western countries and they are genuinely a bro-food in the bodybuilding community. The research on protein bio-availability also scores egg protein very high. Not that these have been shown to give a significant long term benefit when compared to equal amounts of protein from lower bio-availability sources though above an intake of 1.15g of protein per kg of bodyweight.
Wenning Strength Some sources to back up the 50-70mg/dl claim. For people who have already had a heart attack going lower than 50-70 seems to be beneficial also. www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0735109704007168?via%3Dihub www.onlinejacc.org/content/70/24/2979 www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/CIR.0000000000000510 academic.oup.com/eurheartj/article/38/32/2459/3745109
@CurryNugger That entirely right because there has never been a 6'1" WSM competitor and no one thats ever won has ever been 6'1", especially not the person that has won it more times than anyone else, Mariusz Pudzianowski. Oh wait a sec...
unless it's brown rice, the husk/lectins in it are inflammatory. i dont see how white rice would be inflammatory, though. there's no sugar, which is what is inflammatory
@Gore4ever FulciLives I think what he did was a) took all the recommendations from the World Health Organisation and New York Heart association in regards to heart heath, diabetea etc. b) Did the exact opposite = new diet fad
@@WenningStrength I hear what your saying, and respect it, but Shaw has only seen a decline in performance during past few years, since doing the Efferding diet. Performance comes down to so many factors, age, training, PE drugs etc etc. But granted oranges might always be a healthy addition to any athletes diet
I could just see some old lady walking by overhearing these guys talking about the dangers of caffeine while glancing down at the 1000 eggs and entire cow in the shopping cart, going what the??? HahahHa
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Stan talking about Brian's and Thor's food plan like they're livestock :D
Those two are literally had the same size as cows.
Sounds like he's talking about pet Lions lol
Arnold strongman grand prize money $200,000, in other words two or three months worth of food.
How many ribeyes? "Yea we'll take all of them"
I just bought 18lbs today lol
How many ribeyes? "Yes"
Now this is what an excellent coach does for his athletes.
Wondering whom pays for all that food???🤔🤔🤨😲🥺
@@aphysique Shaw and Thor had a lot of sponsors.
This video is super informative. Glad you guys included the "why" in all the stuff you're purchasing.
Having Stan in your life would make anybody a winner. He is such a cool guy.
Matt and Stan have both changed my life and health with their content.
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First Costco that i've seen that wasn't an absolute s**t show full of people
The one by me is just a sea of asians, I'm the minority when I've shopped there.
If people drove their cars like they pushed their carts we'd have 100 car pileups as far as the eye can see.
@@ricks5876 any Asian sensations there?
As stated before, the WHY is always soooo important. Great vid
Those are good, even great coaches. Love both these guys and the info they put out there for free. Stan especially has really helped me improve my training and nutrition
Imagine the cashier ringing up all of this and he’s probably looking at these two like “yeah, this makes sense”
Lol!!!
Awesome video man. Ive watched alot of video where stan talks about this stuff but to actually see what he picks, what brands he chooses and why. This is the only video on youtube ive ever actually downloaded so i have it forever. Great work thank you for this
Thank you. Check out our patreon channel we would love to help ya and show ya more
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Organic food isn"t about extra nutrients, it is about avoiding synthetic pesticides and fertilizers, many of which are persistent environmental pollutants. Organic is one aspect of clean eating that is misunderstood
Great point John. I’m surprised someone of Stan’s intelligence doesn’t realize this.
Point and fact.
Stan is amazing, and we have much to learn from him. Please be kind.
I was looking for this comment! Guys a stupid meat head 😂😂
There are organic approved pesticides and fertilizers. It's just marketing my guy. I'm a agriculture scientist.
*butcher behind window- “my rib-eyes!!!”
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Absolutely brilliant I have been following stan,s diet roughly I have never felt better and stronger great video
Benny Gilligan interesting, what were you eating before the switch?
@@landerhendrickx3522 a lot of chicken , Turkey, fish manly
@@doodefl262 gained very little in lard , and as regular as clock work so I am happy enough
Martin Alvsaker welp never been had trouble going number 2. Maybe get educated
Martin Alvsaker following Stan’s diet plan and never felt stronger and better . Sorry get educated
Great video! I’m coming back here again after recently relocated to a new town where we are more limited to higher fat steaks. It’s very true that having switched to more rib-eye has caused me to not cut weight as easily. Vertical diet is the way to go. I agree fellas, it’s also about how you feel on the diet. And how you feel affects everything.
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A rib eye is a high fat steak; literally famous for its marbling
@@kid319009 thanks. Sometimes even though you have been dieting a while, the fundamentals get lost in the shuffle. I switched to a more top round and this should reduce my calories from fat pretty well.
love following all of this and stans tips. i was already using red meat since im 290(i do have fat to lose) but i like my strength and health and performance being good in the gym, and since i started implementing what he tells us to eat and consume for the Vertical Diet, i feel amazing everyday and my digestion is great!
Brian recently talked about how he went into every competition feeling flat because of this diet. He has now changed diets
Is it Stan's diet or someone else's diet?
Right, he said he started back to eating the diet he used when he won his 4 WSM titles.
@@jimpiper1 Anyway, to know what wasn't working for him with Stan's diet?
@@JohnHenkamGangte I would need to go back and watch the video again. I can't remember him mentioning specifics off the top of my head.
@@jimpiper1 Ah, that's alright
There's a lot to be learned from watching this vid. Check out the builds of both matt and Stan and its easy to see why they are so strong. A lack of mirror sort ot thing.
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Cool video, just, discovered your channel and subbed. Quality content 💯
Thanks brother please help get the word out 🙏🙏🙏
This is such priceless information 💪🏽 Thank you
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Pure gold
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Best channel on youtube!!
I didn't know that certain meats can make you bigger or leaner..Thanks for the tips
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Stan! In a previous video you mentioned taking salt up to I believe 15g for some people, dependant on water intake and activity level among other things. You mentioned iodized salt as well being a good choice, but how about Himalayan salt? I ask because I use it and have been wondering about it, and Wenning asked at the end before it cut out. Thanks a bunch both of you for all the content!
Check out Celtic Salt on Amazon.com for the best clean salts arround.
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The protein hemmroids real af when you eat 3 lbs of Rib eye a day
None here!!
This is great for bulk season. 😈 thank you Sir!!
great info thanks guys!
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Great conversation very informative thank you
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great video we need more informative videos on nutrition it'd be great
EX SK big 1 hour video on this on my Patreon
There are other factors to consider besides nutrient content with organic foods. Reducing environmental chemical load for one and thinking about the effect of glyophosphates on insects and soil. I don’t want that crap on my food. I would argue that it does matter.
Very true!!!
Surely there are hotels with fridges, etc?
But they are too small
Suppose they haven't heard of AirBnB
Check out buying whole loins. A lot cheaper and you can cut the steaks to their preferred size.
Brian_Grim_Reaper from Instagram
Awesome video💪🏾
Stan organic is the food or farming methods) produced or involving production without the use of chemical fertilizers, pesticides, or other artificial agents.
"organic farming"
And if I eat those chemical I have a bad reaction in my stomach ive tested it
If cost was an issue than buying a Rib Roast & fabricating it yourself is better deal
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It’s true the literature on nutrients in organic vs conventional is not convincing.
The difference is just the amount of pesticides used in the cultivation process.
And what literature would that be? Too many studies are corrupt, too many books are cooked. You cant trust scientific literature anymore.
Well meta analysis looking into the nutrient content of conventional vs organic.
If you don’t believe any evidence there’s no use in me linking it, right?
@@landerhendrickx3522 according to science a man and a woman isn't even a thing atm.
Jason blahas favorite bodybuilder haha maybe some papers, not the consensus I hope :p
@@alexxxender1258 " Too many studies are corrupt, too many books are cooked" It's called 'peer-reviewed' for a reason dickwad
I wonder what that costco refund looking like?
The option to change hotels or rent an apartment did not exist?
I've watched this 4 times. I now eat prime top sirloin steak twice a day..
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What's a good replacement for vegetable oils
Come on to patreon brother I need help w the channel
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Stan is looking jacked and tan!
Throw that fridge on its side.... you only have to leave new ones for an hour....
But you can lay whatever way you want too... dont believe the idiots... I've moved them alot and even the man. Say you can haha
This is good info!
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Why did you guys get that fridge, it seems overpriced ?
We like buying over priced stuff 🤣🤣
I noticed when I drink a lot of caffeine my muscles aren’t as full. Anyone experience this?
Didn’t they do this video a while ago?
since when 100g of rice was 400cal ?
400 kcal..
400 cal is nothing lol
Wenning prob still in that store wondering what salt to get
Vegetable oils are really bad but all the meat all that animal is not right this guy are going to get something down the line in there life with this diet
Stay off the page with your ignorance
You see these dudes in public and you may think they're just a couple of muscle heads, but in actuality they're extremely knowledgeable about diet and nutrition. The only criticism I'd give them is about dairy foods (such as yogurt) and calcium. The acids in cows milk eat away at your bones, and so you actually get a net loss of calcium by consuming dairy. Much better ways to get calcium, such as with fruits and vegetables. And even some types of fish.
Thank you. Check out our patreon channel we would love to help ya and show ya more
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What’s a better alternative to those vegetable oils?
Beef fat
Avocado oil, grass fed ghee or butter, coconut oil
Butter
Beef fat, Butter, and Salmon is all I need in terms of fat, best in the world.
Animal fats are good for cooking, as well extra virgin olive oil which is high in polyphenols, both are great because they won’t oxidize.
He could eat mcdonalds and win. God gifted genetics
Not true. Good luck w your excuses
Cool show
Matt how many carrots do you consume per day?
16
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How about just getting them a suite with a kitchenette? 😆😆
Your not storing that amount of food in one of those
@@WenningStrength 😆think youd need a whole separate couple rooms for their food storage
False, Organic food has way more nutrients, vitamins and more quality than regular traditional grown foods.
I eat lots of butter with my steaks
Great vid! But need mics on both of u guys, it's hard to hear u guys at times
John Donovan thanks!!! Once we get more support in subscribers etc we will
Be able to afford better sound
Martins Licis...36hr fasts..oranges...not the vertical diet..whipping everyones ass!! 👀
Oh yea where’s he at now?? 🤣🤣
Extra Virgin Olive Oil ? Yes or No
Arnold is 50k for winning
Actually its 72k
I think its 70k to win the Arnold
Stan's arms are going to explode
Lol
What would you substitute if you absolutely despise rice?
Joe Mama rice cakes Roman Fritz style
Bananas
I wonder what they'd think about quinoa.
Potato's
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It’s nice to hear a contrasting opinion once in a while.
I agree with Stan that vegetable oils are detrimental and with his stance on caffeine. Rice is also the most calorie dens grain and the amino acids are absorbed significantly faster than in most other grains. Oats are also great but they are higher in protein and fat.
I just wonder why he recommends eggs because they pose a risk for salmonella even when hard boiled.
I know these strongman need over 8 or even 9000kcal but the amount of saturated fats and cholesterol is just rediculous on the arteries. I hope at one point both athletes can transition away to other protein and fat sources.
Lander Hendrickx my blood pressure cholesterol etc all went down in the last 2 years eating this way
Wenning Strength didn’t you also lose weight? At least you were talking about losing weight in the vlog with Thor.
From what I’ve seen a heart attack proof serum ldl level is 50-70ml/dl.
But good to hear you had positive changes!
Why does anyone eat eggs?
Jason blahas favorite bodybuilder I think because of subsidies eggs are cheap in a lot of Western countries and they are genuinely a bro-food in the bodybuilding community. The research on protein bio-availability also scores egg protein very high.
Not that these have been shown to give a significant long term benefit when compared to equal amounts of protein from lower bio-availability sources though above an intake of 1.15g of protein per kg of bodyweight.
Wenning Strength
Some sources to back up the 50-70mg/dl claim.
For people who have already had a heart attack going lower than 50-70 seems to be beneficial also.
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0735109704007168?via%3Dihub
www.onlinejacc.org/content/70/24/2979
www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/CIR.0000000000000510
academic.oup.com/eurheartj/article/38/32/2459/3745109
How tall are you matt
Palmieri TV 6ft 1in
@CurryNugger @wenningstrength well someone doesn't like you..you can't please them all lol
@CurryNugger That entirely right because there has never been a 6'1" WSM competitor and no one thats ever won has ever been 6'1", especially not the person that has won it more times than anyone else, Mariusz Pudzianowski. Oh wait a sec...
Shaw and Thor both played basketball
Rice zero inflammation?
Probably something to do with the fact that it doesnt have any preservatives or chemicals which can cause issues
unless it's brown rice, the husk/lectins in it are inflammatory. i dont see how white rice would be inflammatory, though. there's no sugar, which is what is inflammatory
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The vertical diet or as the medical community calls it, the road to disease
Enjoyed the video. Though I can't help but feel some of the "science" is a little broish.. I.e oranges helps them regulate body heat
@Gore4ever FulciLives I think what he did was a) took all the recommendations from the World Health Organisation and New York Heart association in regards to heart heath, diabetea etc. b) Did the exact opposite = new diet fad
I think you need to listen to guys who have done this for 30 years at a high level.
@@WenningStrength I hear what your saying, and respect it, but Shaw has only seen a decline in performance during past few years, since doing the Efferding diet. Performance comes down to so many factors, age, training, PE drugs etc etc. But granted oranges might always be a healthy addition to any athletes diet
I could just see some old lady walking by overhearing these guys talking about the dangers of caffeine while glancing down at the 1000 eggs and entire cow in the shopping cart, going what the??? HahahHa
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What drugs you smoking to think that 1000g of rice is 4000 calories ?
they cook it in chicken broth
1000g of uncooked rice is about 3500 calories, close enough
My guess is 1g of rice = 1g of carbs = 4 Calories. 1000g = 4000 calories.
Anyone needs expert advice just ask this guy 🤣🤣🤣
They all will push vegan or salads soon xuzt here paid actor's that's it lol