Awesome video once again Michael! Very helpful! I'm in on Kingdoms Forlorn on 1$, because I see the potential but it didn't blow me away and still doesn't. Besides, I've got Oathsworn, Aeon Trespass: Odyssey and Stormsunder coming, as well as KDM gambler's chest. After watching your video, I am fairly sure Kingdoms Forlorn doesn't fill any gap in my campaign collection..
Dude, a year later, what's your KF status? Will affect my decision about whether or not to late pledge. The Barony of Bountiful Harvest is DANGEROUSLY perfect, theme-wise, for my wife and I.
Great video, must've been quite a bit of work! Wasn't interested in KF already but it helped me confirming that I have quite a good spread with O:ITD, A:TC/TA and SS and that I'm still hyped for all of them! So, was helpful still, thanks!
Wow, what a great video! It’s clear that you put a ton of time and energy into this and it was incredibly helpful. Thank you! I’m pretty confident now in my decision to pass on KF since I have Stormsunder “on the way.” Can’t wait till that drops in another year or two… =P
I didn't even have to watch the video and I promptly cancelled my KF pledge. I have pledged four of the games compared (Storm, Oath, Aeon & Arena) and had a moment of clarity with regards to everything I have in my library already and what is still outstanding from a delivery perspective. I don't need another massive co-op fantasy game that will never hit my table. Still waiting on KDM wave deliveries...so yeah. Thank you for saving me a few hundred bucks and any sense of FOMO is gone :)
I've already got Stormsunder and Harakiri, with a possible Oathsworn on the next Kickstarter, so I'm very happy that KF isn't doing it for me. Really trying to be more selective due to space concerns. 😅
I'm all in on oathsworn, stormsunder, and aeons trespass odyssey. i just can't justify backing this one, even if it were looking like the best game of all time
@@disgruntledcat - which is exactly the reason I never go all in. I totally understand you - both from a space as well as $ perspective. Not backing is always the best option as we have more than enough either coming, or already on the shelves
Nice, thanks for taking the time to do this comparison - very handy. lucky enough to have 3 of the comparison on order - i think i will keep tracking KF but maybe not move beyond a $1 for the time being.
I was all-in on Oathsworn and ended up cancelling my pledge, about 6 months ago. Something about the art style, text heavy cards, and flow battle system didn’t do it for me. It was also overly serious (like you talk about in the video). I like some of the silliness in KF and KDM. Still currently all-in on KF, but may cancel by the end.
Currently in for KF but will probably drop in the end. Wasn't quite what I was expecting but still looks good. Will see what the final offer is before making a final decision. Great video, love comparison to see how similar games are when backing.
There's actually a good deal of genuine humor in Oathsworn...mostly in small, easter eggy choices. I've laughed outloud multiple times...obviously, though, it's still no romp.
Still not sold on KF. I got in on day 1, but am waiting to see if anything really grabs me and what the final price is going to be. Thanks for the comparison vid!
Final price is a valid concern. I am afraid one more paid add on and I will either just get the basic pledge or cancle my pledge entirely ... I'm fed up with 500€ All-In's ... that was the reason for cancleing my Darkest Dungeon pledge as well.
I’ve got Bardsung and Oathsworn delivering this year. KF really grabbed me initially with the worldbuilding, but so far it’s a steep price for me already and the story doesn’t quite hit me the way I was hoping
@@stevelikestowrite885 probably KF will have best story of all of them. Authors of Oathsworn said once that you can just skip narrative portion and just do checkboxes. Total fail. Great new ideas in combat and such disaster in terms of storytelling...
@@trepanator6 I agree about KF most likely having excellent story telling. A lot of character-specific stuff in addition to general party/world interaction. But I disagree about Oathsworn failing because of giving the option to skip narrative. I think it was a smart move as it opens up the game for those people who may not be interested in the storytelling while keeping the narrative for those who want it. I see it as a win-win.
AT:O #1 for sure. It then gets kind of loose. I'd have to have more time with them to really stand by a ranking. Probably Stormsunder, Oathsworn, Kingdoms Forlorn, Arena, Harakiri if I had to pick at this moment. Oathsworn and Stormsunder might flip IDK Same with KF and Arena.
I have Arena coming and based on this super helpful video I think I made the best choice for me. As I don’t tend to like camp/town phases as much. And I don’t love super grimdark as unfortunately working in medicine it is often a dark enough world.
Thank you. You have convinced me that AT:O is the better game for me. I have been trying to convince myself but the FOMO is strong on this one. Glad I have that backed as well as Stormsunder, so I will have plenty.
I just want to live in a world where I can own all of these AND have time to play them. Is that too much to ask? *checks shelf space and available free time* apparently yes... It's too much to ask... Lol
@@TheKingofAverage Welcome to 2045, where the "Gaming Boomers" are all shut ins, board games have become a new fad with the kids, watching grandpa play will all his toys is the new in snitch streaming, and MyTube's top channel? Kelpie Plays!
I thought about adding Drunagor but the core game isn't so focused on bosses very much. Apocalypse is and I actually had this penciled in at one point in planning but opted to trim the list as the others were asked for more. Perhaps I can speak on it a bit in the future :)
Not sure how I like that comparison. I already have ATO, Harakiri, Tanares and Oathsworn coming. I have the intention to get a pledge for stormsunder before the pm closes. Does this mean I have enough or that I need it also since It’s right with my tastes 😄
Only you can answer that :) I think in the end it depends on how much you think you'll realistically play all of them - these are long campaigns after all!
@@TheKingofAverage but they all look so good. At least some will be here this year. The deciding factor will be how good ATO is I believe. I wished they had waited until ATO was delivered before launching Kingdom Forlorn.
Hello! I am back for this video :) - shame no Isofarian Guard, that game does not get too much loving. I think that if i had to choose between Stormsunder and KF, I would go Stormsunder route (although they have not shown much lately, same 2 old minis in last update). Already have Odyssey, Tanares, Oathsworn, Primal, Harakiri... Next pledge will come with divorce papers as a free first 24h add-on. Keep it up! love your videos If i can advise something, some overlays of logos recapping everything you said would really help - if you got the editing time ofc.
@@TheKingofAverage hi! Either at the end or something that updates on your left as you speak on your video, like your yellow text, but with a more persistent information. I don't know if it would hurt your view time since ppl could skim through? Just some thoughts, very jealous of your kallax empire behind you. I would like you to do a New dad boardgames video, how do I turn my newborn son/daughter in boardgames as age progresses. Became a dad 1 month ago ;)
Isn't Isofarian Guard in a different genre. The only thing it has in common with these is that its a Narrative Game. Other then that its a adventure game, with a bag building combat mechanic.
Thanks for the vid, I am backing KF for several reasons. It's the most novel among others in what's it's trying to do. Step in step out co op. Changing the world permanently with your meaningful choices for greater replayability. ATO needs bigger playing space compared to KF. It's very similar but if there is "bad mechanics & feedback of their system" those changes can be applied to kingdoms forlon. Stormsunder artstyle is awesome but I am unsure of gameplay to the lack of new gameplay videos. Subjectively it's producer does not have the greatest rep. Harakiri exploration phase is more of a chore to delving and you have to use a different set of characters for the expansion. It might be a pick up for second print. I think the universal winner is Oathsworn if you only can get a copy of it. It is launching soon. You can play a freaking warbear! On a side note I love Middara it's has grown unto to me although I am not a big fan of Anime.
I played the DragonBall Super card game for awhile. I even had my judge certification at the time. It was so much fun, but card games lose their appeal to me once I start playing competitively. I'm no longer playing for fun, and I'm having to chase all of the must have cards to even have a chance at winning. As soon as I afford all of those a new set is released and I have to start over. I know I don't have to play competitively, but my friends that played were into that scene. So even games at my house were sweaty, but I absolutely loved my limited time with it.
oh that's great news thank you! I've played quite a few card games but never competitively, always casual so sounds like it's a good system then? The booster packs and such are actually pretty cheap. Was worried the IP would drive the cost up but cheaper than MTG.
@@TheKingofAverage I think you'll have a great time if you keep it casual. On the topic of your video. I'm really torn about where to put my funds. I love a good story driven game and I'm trying to decide if I want KF or SS. I already have Oathsworn and AT:O coming, so I feel like SS might give me a bit more diversity in my collection. And to be honest, the delve phase of KF just doesn't seem as exciting as I had hoped. The clash looks great, but I already have AT:O. Unless they figure out a way to make the delve more interesting, I'm leaning towards SS. With that criteria in mind, do you think SS could potentially be a better fit?
@@jalsbrook Honestly SS and KF are very close to each other. I am getting both lol. The real difference is the settings. SS is in a desert area ravaged by storms, while KF is in a Medieval Fantasy Setting.
Stormsunder is street level? Tell that to Vycalla and Kael'apac! Lol I'm laughing but I understood where you are coming from given what it was shown on the prototype.
What about the index? 😋 Seriously though, something about this one doesn't appeal to me. I think it's partly due to all the counters/symbols that need to be learned that I fear will bog the game down. Aron's Trespass, which I did back, has a much more appealing theme, at least for me, and I love the sculpts and map questing. Either way, I hope the company does well regardless and thanks again for the video....gotta go watch your other ones and find the time stamp for first utterance of the word "index".....
Fun: Either AT:O or Oathsworn. AT:O has some great moments you can pull off as a team. Oathsworn because you can roll ALL THE DICE and luck out and cheer :D
The Dragonball Super TCG is a fun game, but like all other games there are pros and cons. Just so you have an idea of where I'm coming from, I used to play it competitively. First, you should know that the card arts are amazing. Bandai spared no expense in making the cards VERY pretty, and you'll especially notice it with some of the higher rarity cards, with the highest rarity being the Secret Rares (you'll see the SEC on the card rarity). If you are lucky enough to pull an SEC, you will be holding pure gold in your hand; the SEC cards are valuable, hard to pull, and generally hold their value very well. Next, the game is fun and you can play with any Dragonball character you can think of including the non-canon ones as well. Unfortunately there are a lot of cons to the game, which is what ultimately made me stop playing. Firstly, you'll probably have trouble finding a local community to play the game as it's nowhere near as popular as TCGs like YuGiOh or MTG. Then, power creep is obnoxious - too obnoxious for its own good. You will feel like all the cards you have were made obsolete by the next released set - even the aforementioned SEC cards. IMO, the best ways to approach this game is either as a collector/investor, or casual player (if you have a nearby friend/family member to play with). In this way, you don't have to worry about having a ton of bulk cards that are worth dirt, and you can escape the toxic scene of competitive play and rules debating.
oh thanks for sharing! After the move I plan on starting to play with my kids, so sounds like I should be good to go there. Super unfortunate about the power creep. MTG got around this mostly by only allowing the most recent releases, so there's reason to get new cards beyond having them just be better.
It's not very focused on Narrative at all, which is why it wasn't compared. That and the board being so different I felt it's different enough to not bring up too many questions around similarity. It's much more heavily focused on crafting over narrative. There is one though and I hope it's good, just not like KF is :)
I don't really need this vid because I am getting all of these games lol. Their all in the general game type that I like, but it was interesting to see their differences. I am personally waiting for a Superhero Narrative game like these games, were you have different Superhero's and they all comment to each other with different opinions.
Thanks for the video, although I missed Oathsworn now I see it would fit my needs a lot more. I am still interested in KF, but for the price I see I am more and more on the fence. If the all in was $280 I would probably buy it. But at this point I feel like if I am not going to get everything I could've rename it to Kingdom Forlorn as all other kingdoms are in paid expansions. That's a boomer for me. I ain't paying $500 for it. That's for sure.
the vicious cycle of KS... pledge, then moan about shipping , then delays, then dramas, ....then swear never to pledge, and returns for another KS project...and the cycle repeats... LOL.
@@TheKingofAverage that's too bad, kinda leaves the list incomplete. Or are you saying it's too far above all these there's no comparison? 😉 Was hoping to see Middara as well, especially with Stormsunder up there. :) Don't you have more time to play gigantic campaigns? Lol
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Awesome video once again Michael! Very helpful!
I'm in on Kingdoms Forlorn on 1$, because I see the potential but it didn't blow me away and still doesn't.
Besides, I've got Oathsworn, Aeon Trespass: Odyssey and Stormsunder coming, as well as KDM gambler's chest. After watching your video, I am fairly sure Kingdoms Forlorn doesn't fill any gap in my campaign collection..
Dude, a year later, what's your KF status? Will affect my decision about whether or not to late pledge. The Barony of Bountiful Harvest is DANGEROUSLY perfect, theme-wise, for my wife and I.
Great video, must've been quite a bit of work! Wasn't interested in KF already but it helped me confirming that I have quite a good spread with O:ITD, A:TC/TA and SS and that I'm still hyped for all of them! So, was helpful still, thanks!
oh yeah man you are golden.
Wow, what a great video! It’s clear that you put a ton of time and energy into this and it was incredibly helpful. Thank you! I’m pretty confident now in my decision to pass on KF since I have Stormsunder “on the way.” Can’t wait till that drops in another year or two… =P
Happy I could help you be confident in that decision :)
I didn't even have to watch the video and I promptly cancelled my KF pledge. I have pledged four of the games compared (Storm, Oath, Aeon & Arena) and had a moment of clarity with regards to everything I have in my library already and what is still outstanding from a delivery perspective.
I don't need another massive co-op fantasy game that will never hit my table. Still waiting on KDM wave deliveries...so yeah.
Thank you for saving me a few hundred bucks and any sense of FOMO is gone :)
I've already got Stormsunder and Harakiri, with a possible Oathsworn on the next Kickstarter, so I'm very happy that KF isn't doing it for me. Really trying to be more selective due to space concerns. 😅
I'm all in on oathsworn, stormsunder, and aeons trespass odyssey. i just can't justify backing this one, even if it were looking like the best game of all time
@@disgruntledcat - which is exactly the reason I never go all in.
I totally understand you - both from a space as well as $ perspective.
Not backing is always the best option as we have more than enough either coming, or already on the shelves
Nice, thanks for taking the time to do this comparison - very handy. lucky enough to have 3 of the comparison on order - i think i will keep tracking KF but maybe not move beyond a $1 for the time being.
Good content. Oathsworn for the win. Sounds the most like what I'm looking for. Can't wait till June. Fingers crossed.
It's so grimdark dude :D
I was all-in on Oathsworn and ended up cancelling my pledge, about 6 months ago. Something about the art style, text heavy cards, and flow battle system didn’t do it for me. It was also overly serious (like you talk about in the video). I like some of the silliness in KF and KDM. Still currently all-in on KF, but may cancel by the end.
Nice looking game thanks for your excellent video mate 😊
You are quite welcome :)
Have SS and ATO on the way... And that's exactly why I'm going all in with KF. My genre and niche.
I really Do like these Video series. Already enjoyed your Skirmisher comparison a few months ago. Thank you🙂👍
You are quite welcome as always! :)
Currently in for KF but will probably drop in the end. Wasn't quite what I was expecting but still looks good. Will see what the final offer is before making a final decision. Great video, love comparison to see how similar games are when backing.
There's actually a good deal of genuine humor in Oathsworn...mostly in small, easter eggy choices. I've laughed outloud multiple times...obviously, though, it's still no romp.
I've only supported Oathsworn from among these, so I think it is about time to add something like Kingdoms Forlorn XD
Great comparisons, very helpful, still torn but you brought up stunt great points that will help me make a Duvall decision. You rock
Would you think that KF is worth the price? Would you get it if you had to get 1? I’m super intrigued by your other video too!!
Still not sold on KF. I got in on day 1, but am waiting to see if anything really grabs me and what the final price is going to be. Thanks for the comparison vid!
You are quite welcome! Still plenty of time to determine if it's right for you or not :)
Final price is a valid concern. I am afraid one more paid add on and I will either just get the basic pledge or cancle my pledge entirely ... I'm fed up with 500€ All-In's ... that was the reason for cancleing my Darkest Dungeon pledge as well.
I’ve got Bardsung and Oathsworn delivering this year. KF really grabbed me initially with the worldbuilding, but so far it’s a steep price for me already and the story doesn’t quite hit me the way I was hoping
@@stevelikestowrite885 probably KF will have best story of all of them. Authors of Oathsworn said once that you can just skip narrative portion and just do checkboxes. Total fail. Great new ideas in combat and such disaster in terms of storytelling...
@@trepanator6 I agree about KF most likely having excellent story telling. A lot of character-specific stuff in addition to general party/world interaction. But I disagree about Oathsworn failing because of giving the option to skip narrative. I think it was a smart move as it opens up the game for those people who may not be interested in the storytelling while keeping the narrative for those who want it. I see it as a win-win.
What's your personal ranking of these compared games...? Curious what your favorite and least favorite are.
AT:O #1 for sure. It then gets kind of loose. I'd have to have more time with them to really stand by a ranking. Probably Stormsunder, Oathsworn, Kingdoms Forlorn, Arena, Harakiri if I had to pick at this moment. Oathsworn and Stormsunder might flip IDK Same with KF and Arena.
@@TheKingofAverage and what about Primal? where it would go in this ranking? I'm asking about it as Primal can be still late pledged ;)
Thanks for information, good job for community.
I have Arena coming and based on this super helpful video I think I made the best choice for me. As I don’t tend to like camp/town phases as much. And I don’t love super grimdark as unfortunately working in medicine it is often a dark enough world.
I think Tanarus Adventures has a camp.
Thank you. You have convinced me that AT:O is the better game for me. I have been trying to convince myself but the FOMO is strong on this one. Glad I have that backed as well as Stormsunder, so I will have plenty.
Awesome - glad I could help! :) AT:O has been my top pick for some time personally.
@@TheKingofAverage Where would Oathsworn rank for you (from the prototype)? We seem to have common tastes so with the 2nd printing coming up ...
I think SS and O:ItD will be enough Fantasy Boardgames with different Styles for a while
Thanks for the comparison, it's super useful! :)
So clad to hear that! I think in the future I'll try to also keep a checklist per game to help the info retain :)
Thanks for this video!
You are quite welcome :)
I just want to live in a world where I can own all of these AND have time to play them. Is that too much to ask? *checks shelf space and available free time* apparently yes... It's too much to ask... Lol
haha yeah I think most of us tend to go from enough time not enough money to the reverse. Our retirement time is going to rock though!
@@TheKingofAverage true that!
I too wish to live in that world.
@@TheKingofAverage Welcome to 2045, where the "Gaming Boomers" are all shut ins, board games have become a new fad with the kids, watching grandpa play will all his toys is the new in snitch streaming, and MyTube's top channel? Kelpie Plays!
Great video, I would have enjoyed Middara and Drunegar compared as well, but that could be a sequel!
I thought about adding Drunagor but the core game isn't so focused on bosses very much. Apocalypse is and I actually had this penciled in at one point in planning but opted to trim the list as the others were asked for more. Perhaps I can speak on it a bit in the future :)
Not sure how I like that comparison. I already have ATO, Harakiri, Tanares and Oathsworn coming. I have the intention to get a pledge for stormsunder before the pm closes.
Does this mean I have enough or that I need it also since It’s right with my tastes 😄
Only you can answer that :) I think in the end it depends on how much you think you'll realistically play all of them - these are long campaigns after all!
@@TheKingofAverage but they all look so good. At least some will be here this year. The deciding factor will be how good ATO is I believe. I wished they had waited until ATO was delivered before launching Kingdom Forlorn.
Hello! I am back for this video :) - shame no Isofarian Guard, that game does not get too much loving.
I think that if i had to choose between Stormsunder and KF, I would go Stormsunder route (although they have not shown much lately, same 2 old minis in last update). Already have Odyssey, Tanares, Oathsworn, Primal, Harakiri...
Next pledge will come with divorce papers as a free first 24h add-on.
Keep it up! love your videos
If i can advise something, some overlays of logos recapping everything you said would really help - if you got the editing time ofc.
I actually though about that! Like at the end of my reviews right? Will try that out next time for sure 😊
@@TheKingofAverage hi! Either at the end or something that updates on your left as you speak on your video, like your yellow text, but with a more persistent information. I don't know if it would hurt your view time since ppl could skim through? Just some thoughts, very jealous of your kallax empire behind you.
I would like you to do a New dad boardgames video, how do I turn my newborn son/daughter in boardgames as age progresses. Became a dad 1 month ago ;)
Isn't Isofarian Guard in a different genre. The only thing it has in common with these is that its a Narrative Game. Other then that its a adventure game, with a bag building combat mechanic.
Thanks for the vid, I am backing KF for several reasons. It's the most novel among others in what's it's trying to do. Step in step out co op. Changing the world permanently with your meaningful choices for greater replayability. ATO needs bigger playing space compared to KF. It's very similar but if there is "bad mechanics & feedback of their system" those changes can be applied to kingdoms forlon. Stormsunder artstyle is awesome but I am unsure of gameplay to the lack of new gameplay videos. Subjectively it's producer does not have the greatest rep. Harakiri exploration phase is more of a chore to delving and you have to use a different set of characters for the expansion. It might be a pick up for second print. I think the universal winner is Oathsworn if you only can get a copy of it. It is launching soon. You can play a freaking warbear! On a side note I love Middara it's has grown unto to me although I am not a big fan of Anime.
Nice to see that you compared them but... I've backed all of the games you speak of... xD
HAH! Good I'm not alone :D
Great video. Thanks
You are quite welcome John :)
Super.. I have just one question to the King.. which of these prototypes you had the most fun with? 😉
AT:O. I adore the setting and scope of it and the metroidvania map is super fun too.
@@TheKingofAverage thanks, I'm waiting for ATO as well 😉
I played the DragonBall Super card game for awhile. I even had my judge certification at the time. It was so much fun, but card games lose their appeal to me once I start playing competitively. I'm no longer playing for fun, and I'm having to chase all of the must have cards to even have a chance at winning. As soon as I afford all of those a new set is released and I have to start over. I know I don't have to play competitively, but my friends that played were into that scene. So even games at my house were sweaty, but I absolutely loved my limited time with it.
oh that's great news thank you! I've played quite a few card games but never competitively, always casual so sounds like it's a good system then? The booster packs and such are actually pretty cheap. Was worried the IP would drive the cost up but cheaper than MTG.
@@TheKingofAverage I think you'll have a great time if you keep it casual. On the topic of your video. I'm really torn about where to put my funds. I love a good story driven game and I'm trying to decide if I want KF or SS. I already have Oathsworn and AT:O coming, so I feel like SS might give me a bit more diversity in my collection. And to be honest, the delve phase of KF just doesn't seem as exciting as I had hoped. The clash looks great, but I already have AT:O. Unless they figure out a way to make the delve more interesting, I'm leaning towards SS. With that criteria in mind, do you think SS could potentially be a better fit?
@@jalsbrook Honestly SS and KF are very close to each other. I am getting both lol. The real difference is the settings. SS is in a desert area ravaged by storms, while KF is in a Medieval Fantasy Setting.
Stormsunder is street level? Tell that to Vycalla and Kael'apac! Lol
I'm laughing but I understood where you are coming from given what it was shown on the prototype.
Street level as in they have personal stakes and the fight isn't just high level stuff :)
Is Chronicles of Drunagor not a match for this roundup?
Thanks King!
You are quite welcome!
Thanks
What about the index? 😋
Seriously though, something about this one doesn't appeal to me. I think it's partly due to all the counters/symbols that need to be learned that I fear will bog the game down. Aron's Trespass, which I did back, has a much more appealing theme, at least for me, and I love the sculpts and map questing. Either way, I hope the company does well regardless and thanks again for the video....gotta go watch your other ones and find the time stamp for first utterance of the word "index".....
Out of the games just mentioned which would you say has the most fun combat?
Fun: Either AT:O or Oathsworn. AT:O has some great moments you can pull off as a team. Oathsworn because you can roll ALL THE DICE and luck out and cheer :D
I'm exactly like you with the Dragonball card game. I'd love to know how to play it lol.
Which are your personal faves?
AT:O has always been my #1 pick of this type of game. I absolutely adored my time with the Prelude
The Dragonball Super TCG is a fun game, but like all other games there are pros and cons. Just so you have an idea of where I'm coming from, I used to play it competitively. First, you should know that the card arts are amazing. Bandai spared no expense in making the cards VERY pretty, and you'll especially notice it with some of the higher rarity cards, with the highest rarity being the Secret Rares (you'll see the SEC on the card rarity). If you are lucky enough to pull an SEC, you will be holding pure gold in your hand; the SEC cards are valuable, hard to pull, and generally hold their value very well. Next, the game is fun and you can play with any Dragonball character you can think of including the non-canon ones as well.
Unfortunately there are a lot of cons to the game, which is what ultimately made me stop playing. Firstly, you'll probably have trouble finding a local community to play the game as it's nowhere near as popular as TCGs like YuGiOh or MTG. Then, power creep is obnoxious - too obnoxious for its own good. You will feel like all the cards you have were made obsolete by the next released set - even the aforementioned SEC cards.
IMO, the best ways to approach this game is either as a collector/investor, or casual player (if you have a nearby friend/family member to play with). In this way, you don't have to worry about having a ton of bulk cards that are worth dirt, and you can escape the toxic scene of competitive play and rules debating.
oh thanks for sharing! After the move I plan on starting to play with my kids, so sounds like I should be good to go there. Super unfortunate about the power creep. MTG got around this mostly by only allowing the most recent releases, so there's reason to get new cards beyond having them just be better.
Wouldn’t you include Primal in this kinda boss-battler campaign games?
It's not very focused on Narrative at all, which is why it wasn't compared. That and the board being so different I felt it's different enough to not bring up too many questions around similarity. It's much more heavily focused on crafting over narrative. There is one though and I hope it's good, just not like KF is :)
Liked the vid - have a suggestion for a follow-up: will PM you on it
Oh looking forward to it! I always appreciate you guy's ideas!
@@TheKingofAverage -sent in Discod
I don't really need this vid because I am getting all of these games lol. Their all in the general game type that I like, but it was interesting to see their differences. I am personally waiting for a Superhero Narrative game like these games, were you have different Superhero's and they all comment to each other with different opinions.
nooo don't say that. I'd give that game all of my money :D
Thanks for the video, although I missed Oathsworn now I see it would fit my needs a lot more. I am still interested in KF, but for the price I see I am more and more on the fence. If the all in was $280 I would probably buy it. But at this point I feel like if I am not going to get everything I could've rename it to Kingdom Forlorn as all other kingdoms are in paid expansions. That's a boomer for me. I ain't paying $500 for it. That's for sure.
the vicious cycle of KS... pledge, then moan about shipping , then delays, then dramas, ....then swear never to pledge, and returns for another KS project...and the cycle repeats... LOL.
No KDM. :P
haha nope! Explicitly not :D
@@TheKingofAverage that's too bad, kinda leaves the list incomplete. Or are you saying it's too far above all these there's no comparison? 😉 Was hoping to see Middara as well, especially with Stormsunder up there. :) Don't you have more time to play gigantic campaigns? Lol