Bottom line, don't take work personally. Don't be afraid to take what you can from the company (legally), and leave if you get something better. After 25 years in engineering, as a naive young college grad, I thought I'd be absorbed into a company and adored and they'd groom me to move up the ladder. Nope. I got walked all over, made false promises, and every excuse in the book why I can't get a raise, yet they still ask you to be a "team player" and be positive about the company... FFFFFFF UUUUUU.
I worked at a smaller tool and die shop for ten years I got to the point where I was dragging day to day .. I made a big move into a bigger shop and am treated way better financially and just in general almost two years in the place and so far so good
Pure facts! As someone who’s been in the industry for 10yrs. This is crucial information. If you choose the corporate route... I’ve always said, the absolute best companies to work for are mid-sized, privately owned companies. Roughly 50-200 employees. Small start up companies are too fragile and can let you go at anytime. Large corporations are annoying and there are too many rules in their rule books.
I would add that large corporations can cut your job anytime, as well. With startups, high risk against stability is expected, as those early years are spent fighting for survival. At least you know that going in. Large businesses undergo "organizational changes," from merger/acquisitions to adjusting to last year's poor performance to inter-department musical cubicles to new technology. If you keep up with news on your company and its growth/reduction trends past 5-10 years, you at least have a clearer picture.
Did exactly that, eventually company grew to 1000 people and started to be the "anoying one" with HR BS and basically drove all of the old-crew away. After a year most of the guys I liked to work with quit and were replaced by sub-par (but cheaper and devoted) workforce. Now I wish I never worked there because it feels like such a huge waste of time now.
I've worked at a mid sized company in the past, roughly ~80 employees. Half of those employees where middle managers, contributing absolutely zero value to the company... I quit after only 1.5 years, they replaced me with an IT-manager having the sole competence to pick up a phone and call for overpriced external aid. *I only got payed to do one job, yet when I quit I quit the following jobs:* - back e. developer _(where I partially singed up for)_ - front e. developer _(I absolutely hate this)_ - web-designer _(I find web stuff disgusting)_ - game-designer _(I kinda like to design game worlds)_ - game-programmer _(love doing that to)_ - firmware dev _(my hobby, passion and where I was trained / studied for)_ - hardware dev _(my hobby, passion and where I was trained / studied for)_ - electrician _(I love designing circuit-boards because its challenging, mounting wall-plugs on a wall isn't! Hate it)_ - IT help-desk _(Explaining boomers how to use a computer for the 10th time, is the most infuriating activity known to man!)_ - server-admin _(I run my own servers at home so I should love it at work too, except those servers at work are 10 years old garbage being held together with tape.)_ - network-admin _(There is nothing as boring as managing an office network ritheled with low quality garbage hardware...)_ - project manager _(Because those hired to do so where utterly incompetent, so I had to do it myself!)_ - ...
Really depends. I work for a company with 100k employees. And I make 110k at 30 years old and the max salary is 200k. Lots of opportunities and flexible schedule with a load of vacation time
Yes, I am 48 and was just thrown out of job with kind words "we like how you work, we like you , but we must cut our costs" At the same time, they hired a younger person ( my former apprentice ) bet, but even tried to hide it from me. Listen to the warning, and never ever believe that hard work , loyalty, skills and knowledge will be even considered when layoffs will happen.
@@darpur5469 In my case - i "was not his man" ( what my manager told other managers ) In other words I was in different country than he. But you never know actually...
Me: Can I have a job? Employer: You must have education before you can work here! Education is the end all be all of working life. Very important. Come back when you have some education. 5 years later Me: Hey I completed this education in the area that you wanted, can I have a job? Employer: But thats just education! It dosnt count! You know nothing! Come back when you have REAL knowledge AKA experience. We don't hire people without experience. 5 years later Me: Hey it took a ton of effort, but I got some experience selling my time for extreme low wage to do internships to these other companies to get the experience you requested. Can I have a job now? Employer: Your experience is to general. We need this very specific area of expertise, that can only be aquired in certain positions. Come back when you have this very specific, narrow expertise. 5 years later Me: I am exhausted from trying to meet your ridiculous demands, but by sacrificing my youth and not have any kids, cars or property nor pension, I was able to aquire the experience you requested on my own. Can I now have a job? Employer: You are too old.
Yeah right, David the computer scientist is gonna have a harder time getting a job than John Doe the liberal arts major in painting. Get real, every year the US goes with a massive shortage of computer scientists. He's just spreading fear mongering. As for the "making your self indispensable", that applies to every job.
@thomas samson I am not into the industry yet, learning and trying to get first experience, but I feel what you feel/know. And as a foriner I know how huge is outsourcing
Usually the best route is to work for a company in your 20's to gain professional experience, then start your own business in your 30's so you're in good shape by your 40's. Another reason to do this is people take you more seriously in your 30's as a mature adult. Careers are for suckers. Better to use jobs to build capital and professional skills, then get out of the rat race before it chews you up and spits you out.
That was my plan. I'm 33 and trying to get a UI/UX job, it's really tough out there. I do retail (which I hate) while supporting after a sick mum and dad. Sometimes I think I am too late.
@@GraveRave Hey i am 33 i am trying to get my prop building business for 3d printing this year started, but also open to learning other remote jobs as well, always been a creative spirit
Shit the axe came down hard this week... hardwork nor seniority didn’t save many... So many managers lost. My python programming is going slow... need to kick it up a notch
Josh is right. Biggest salary jumps are always through switching jobs/companies. My current company pays me $48k. After one year at this company, I'm in the interview process for two jobs that leave me around $60k annually. Never settle for less than you deserve. My next jump will be $65k-$70k. I'm 25, no college.
Interviewer: So, how are your kids? Candidate: Uh, great? Interviewer: You have kids? Nice! Anyways, we're deciding on other candidates. You're qualifications don't match this position.
A couple of days ago I had an interview. Among the questions were "Where do you live?", "Who do you live with?", "Are you single or married?", "Do you have kids?", "What do your mate and your parents do for a living?", "How much are you earning at your current job?", "What are the benefits?", "What is your job schedule?"
This advice is gold. Unfortunately it usually takes one like 3-5 years of soul killing jobs to figure these things out. 3-5 years of no skill/business/escape plan building.
Or because they pay a fuck ton of money and the owner of the company thinks just like wonderful Joshua here.. "you better get paid before you die". Instead of looking at the big picture like the robot himself Mark Zuckerberg
Acquisitions can also be really, really bad for the company doing the acquisition. "Redundancies" pop up on both sides and there's usually little to no warning. Also simply becoming a larger company means that you end up with more narrow specializations and project management assholes. Versatile, jack-of-all-trades types get cut or pushed into roles so boring they just leave as soon as they can.
You will want to change careers; it's a natural urge, so don't feel too conflicted when it happens. It doesn't mean you made a mistake (it doesn't mean you didn't), it just means you're a rational human being.
Corporate boomer here - Josh is spot on with this. For those taking the employment route, strongly consider pursuing a government job versus the private sector. Just have to read countless "early retirement" testimonials from government workers to see the benefits. The government is about the only entity that offers pension and healthcare at earlier ages. Its hard for young folks to think that far out in age but the effort pays off.
@Nelson Pay may be lower but not always boring, but thats my experience. I work in the research field and the government projects are like fucking deep pocketed stuff thats awesome, super good job reliability, and they're much more willing to work with you than to use you. But I got paid peanuts, maybe its cuz i was an intern but idk.
yeah and then you are directly plugged into the machine that ruins lives and the world. killee babies once before realizing im the bad guy. how can you choose comfort if its linked to stepping on others
no, start with private sector than move to public and work there until you unlocked pensions. Its also great because trying to get fired is hard in public sector because of union and all.
Also, invest money when you are young. Instead of buying a fancy car/other stuff which isn't an asset that you don't really need, invest your money. Don't wait until 10 years before retirement to start planning for it, if you do that you're going to be stuck working until you're in your 80's (with a condescending insecure immature manager who is 60 years younger than you)
Talking is easy, but taking action is difficult. What kinds of invest money you prefer? I already invested my time, effort, and money for my degree, and I graduated from San Jose State University in Dec 2018. I haven't had any debt yet, and so far I have $70,000 cash in my saving and $20,000 in my 401K. 1 million dollar can't even buy a broken house in Bay Area. In the next 10 years, I may have $500,000 cash, but I feel like my cash is just like papers.
@@dh8148 Lol index funds are a terrible idea.. you will never be rich investing in index funds, only maybe when you're 80 years old. Use the stock market to preserve wealth, not create it. Read The Millionaire Fastlane by MJ Demarco.
If you really want to make money you got to create a product or service that helps other people in return for money. What are you already good at that you can teach other people? Start a Blog, Create an ebook, start a RUclips channel, start affiliate marketing, start a crypto mining farm, start a cannabis farm( if in a legal state). These are just some ways to make a lot of money in 1-5 years.
@@mfhfreq21 saving isnt a good thing, money is power that can be leveraged to make more money (of course have some savings), but its best to invest it into something like passive cashflow, for example real estate
@@MikaelAbehsera That's my point. Save more of your money so in the future you can invest it in valuable assets. Use your money to make more money, like Rich Dad, Poor Dad advises. Too many ppl buy into the myth that a 100k + job guarantees you financial freedom. The majority of your paycheck still goes towards all of your expenses, and after taxes, you're not left with much when it all adds up.
@dwh wealth is not vanity, it's freedom. The ability to move around easily. To always have a roof over your head, clean water, food, health treatment and clothes, that is freedom. And out of all that I mentioned, only one or two at best are guaranteed for you in developed countries, and in others none at all. Most of us grew in providing environments where we have parental figures provide us with all of these, and it creates the illusion that as long as we do as instructed, it will always be the case. It's not. And when the shit hits the fan, only those that secured their wealth will survive the waves. Wealth isn't about buying fancy cars, that's frivolity. Wealth is the ability to survive and live well in a modern standard no matter how bad it gets, short of nuclear Armageddon. Securing wealth as early as you can and being responsible when you're young is the only route to freeing yourself and your family from the chains of wageslaving and surrendering your freedom to those who would enjoy nothing more than to abuse you for their own wealth gains.
"You either decide to be self-employed or you decide to be a corporate ladder guy" those words contain so much truth. I chose option 1 3 months ago and currently using my employer to fund my dreams.
but why not chose to be a corporate ladder guy for the first few years to gain some experience in the field and THEN go solo? why do you have to choose?
omat baydaui Good question. Well if you work corporate then go solo... it basically meant you chose the solo route. The fact that you went corporate at first was just a strategy.
When I was young, I went self employed. It was an internet cafe. As time progressed, it became irrelevant so I got a job corporate. It was a call center. As time progressed, my body couldn't take it anymore so I took the third choice. I did a civil service exam and applied for a government job and I've never been happier. When people think government jobs, people think working long hours in an office. It isn't. I repair and maintain computers used by government offices. Sometimes I install new equipment to modernize branches that have documents originally typed on type writers. I'm treated as an asset. Its a lone wolf job. I manage my own time. It pays better than any job I ever got. We get holidays off ffs. Benefits are paid for by the government and so will my pension when I retire. I'm 40 now. I wish I knew about this job like 10 to 15 years ago.
@@TheUmnez Actually it isn't. Our office is understaffed by at least 11 people. We keep asking for people but not everyone is willing to go through a civil service exam. The scheduling is like once a year and you have to wait months for the results. If you fail, you'll have to reschedule. Governments also prioritize skilled workers like mechanics, plumbers, electricians, teachers, nurses, most jobs that people don't want to learn to do. For me, my job is mostly spent crawling under dusty tables and setting up ethernet cables through walls. Its not fun but its better than getting yelled at by people over the phone in a call center.
@B117 I guess it is but my job title is just Computer Technician 1. Other people go out climbing stuff and do fiber optic infrastructure. And then there are others on our branch that develop and maintain the communication software offices use on their day to day tasks. I thought the data base people were the IT.
@@djriize We work night shifts. We have mandatory 4 hour over times almost everyday. I spent 5 of my Christmases and New Years working, gettinf yelled at by Americans. I handled AT&T and Verizon accounts. My current job doesn't require me to do over time. Computers never complain and during Christmas season we get vacation time from 24 Dec and not neex to get back to work till 02 Jan. Also, every non working holiday, we don't need to go to work. I'm basically treated as a person, not a machine.
I have been at my same place for almost 6 years and have only gotten the typical 3-5% raises every year. I did get certified and now I'm having interviews at other places paying $+12k-25k more. Make sure to get certifications if your profession requires it, especially while you are young.
I think long-term, self-employed is a better route if you consider that you're building brand equity for yourself, choosing to build products to sell to customers you value, rather than who the company is selling to (you may find that you don't like that company's customers), and you can focus on your strengths more, versus try to dilute it due to "company bureaucracy".
I am 36 and I feel trapped as fuck. Just trying to take a leap of faith and quit and start something new but its damn difficult when you have a family and bills. But I hope I will be able to ride this out.
@@advenco344 with gods grace I am doing well. I was able to change the job finally and come to a much much better company to work with anf thankfully a great manager to go along. Thank you for asking me this question and taking me back to the day when I posted this as just yesterday I completed three years since I made that change 🙏
@@MJ-yx2fk I have been applying for jobs for over a year, and I barely can manage my sanity. Healthwise happy, financially had to really tighten the belt but the lockdown helps as we can't go out and spend anyways.
@@LorettaChin I lost my job at 40 and nearly kill myself after being rejected on aprox 50 interviews. I fell deep into unmedicated major depression. fortunately a colleague died and a position got open. now I am very happily employed and grateful every day.
Josh is really bright in a lot of ways. Not only do you need connection but a unique skill too yes. This is really brilliant. We need even more people to keep pushing public opinion to recognize the workforce that makes these CEO’s so wealthy. Bigger companies and public sector of you want to stay at same place
This is probably your best video. This is very important advice. In the business world, there are CEOs and workers. If you're a worker, you're an expendable commodity. You're just a cog in the machine. Humanity is on the decline as more and more companies see automation as the key to their success.
In the eternal words of my old bakery team leader: "There's always another job." Dude was 40 years old working in a supermarket bakery and was worth over a quarter of a million in investments alone. He was planning on retiring by the age of 50. Just keep your mind on your money, plan to retire early, and if shit hits the fan you're covered.
@Jokerpilled Saint Look up the 4% rule. The money you have needs to be invested into assets such as the stock market or real estate (or both). With that much money you have a good start. You need to invest it though. Money that sits around just rots due to inflation and will not get you any cash flow that you need to retire.
That's exactly what I did. Worked at restaurants, several factories, and eventually invested my way out of work -- I make more money running my own AC and plumbing service calls at my rentals than most any hourly job pays. My stock investments don't require as much effort, but I enjoy buying and studying stocks.
This is so true. At my job this week I've met an art director that worked at Ubisoft for 10,years. He worked on Assassin's Creed Origins. And all of sudden, after the game released they fired him and hired new graduates ... Crazy.
I go to university in a city with a Ubisoft HQ and you wouldn't believe the amount of fellow students who want nothing more than give their entire life to Ubisoft or any other game company.
Joshua, thank you for all the great content, you have done a lot to expose a world that seems almost to be hidden. I enjoy your videos and they have real utility outside of the computer screen. please cheer up!
#yanggang and for the record I've been self-employed the majority of my life, and those years I was working inside of companies rather than as a contractor, entrepreneur, or freelancer, were the worst years of my life. I would 100% prefer to do something like cutting yards and maintenance from a self-built clientele than to go back to any corporation. (I'm a full-stack web dev with a degree in graphic design and have been solo for the last 4 years, working remote :D )
@@Shadow-il7xh I have a little question if you don't mind, joshua in his video says that when you'r a fresh graduate, you either chose to grind the corporate ladder or you work for yourself, but why do you have to chose? isn't working for a corporation to gain experience and then try to work for yourself a much better idea?
The problems with corporate jobs are: 1) they have to be profitable 2) managers have a lot of fears. Therefore no matter how smart you are, your boss needs reliable puppies with zero critical thinking. Otherwise they would have hired people who studied humanities, as long as any degree doesn't provide you with the practical experience. On the other hand a CEO must be the smartest person in the room, and the majority of them hold a degree in Philosophy
Thank you! Made a career change from the fitness industry to IT. I’m 30 and you’re right. As you mature, you have a certain lifestyle you’ve built over time. As I’m starting my IT career, what I’m realizing. They’ll take anyone who’s willing to do the job for less.
Just curious how's that working out. I'm looking to switch to programming from civil engineering at 36 and I'm nervous tbh. I know there's tons of eager 20 somethings who could fill those roles quicker than me
I don't know much about the US market, I was born and raised in Argentina and now live in Belgium. I am 42 years of age. What I hear a lot is that people from younger generations are very pretentious in their expectations. While I have been cut from my previous job due to age reasons, afterwards I landed four job interviews out of nine job applications (I rejected one job due to personal reasons, I have to check how things go in 2 of these 4 interviews). And I am doing a career switch from a technician position to regulatory affairs. I think that this trend noted by Josh in the first three minutes may not subsist in the long run, if younger generations aren't interested in working, companies will have little choice when hiring personnel. Yes, there are garbage and meat grinding jobs that are being avoided by everybody and maybe those jobs are the ones being left for the fortifivers and beyond. But if you are a minimalist and someone who wants to work for a living, you are a rare species, and that can give you advantage. Remember, good companies/employers are in short supply. So are honorable trustworthy and decent employees who do not use drugs, do not have alcohol problems, are mentally stable, and have a well-formed moral conscience. A final remark. You say younger people will compete against fortifivers. I say: 1) go to duckduckgo 2) search: "demographic winter" AND "united states" This also applies to Europe and nearly every western-culture nation. One-night stands, abortion, free sex, moneyz, and living la vida loca have caused birth rates to plummet all over the world. Meaning: you will not have younger people to compete against, because there will be no younger people; and you will work til you die because there will be no pensions. Don't believe me? Check the demographic pyramid of the Netherlands or Spain. Feel free to do that with any random country in the northern hemisphere. TL; DR = there are people over forty getting job interviews and shifting careers. And the plummeting of the birthrates will allow you to work until you die because there are no younger people and there will be no sustainable pension schemes.
A topic you might cover sometime - apologizing. To coworkers. Customers. Bosses. Etc. Be VERY selective when apologizing. A lot of people overly apologize to be polite. The problem is when you apologize in work - even if they KNOW you just being polite - you paint a target on yourself. You are now the guy that handles it. You are the sole responsibility holder. YOU are the name dropped for every issue associated with your company/division/line of business. Do not apologize unless it’s absolutely necessary and you yourself are clearly to blame.
Having a side business beside a full-time job has less risk. But that also needs some sacrifice to do that. And if a full-time job takes over time than usual, it is tougher to create any form of side business.
André Penedo Trying to start a business with something you’re not obsessed about is a recipe for disaster. I can help you. Will cover this in future videos
@André Penedo Please try to do something from small. Half done product is not done at all. Also, try to work little by little every day. Over time you will create a complete product.
Man you're so right, every time I watch your videos I get angry at myself for not having figured that out myself. I should do what I really want, no matter what, and at the pay level that will guarantee myself a good life, no matter what, because these CEOs and CFOs and what not, they already figured it out, years ahead of me.
This guy Josh is giving great career advice. I remember years ago, I had a part timeless job at a big national home improvement retailer. There was a guy there who was a dept manager (an hourly position) who was really pushing to become an asst store manager. He was a former high school star football player, he pushed his guys really hard. He really believed in the company. He wanted to get promoted so badly.Some of the guys complained to the store management about him. Several weeks later they took him aside and fired him. He had to clean out his locker and leave. As he left the store, he was crying. It was pathetic. Guys, these companies will fire you at any time for any reason.
The other relevant point (in addition to those in the video) is that your race against time is also your race towards retirement. Can you bankroll enough money to retire at 65? 75? Do you want to work until you die as a convenience store greeter? Your job isn't about corporate picnics and bean bag chairs, it's about being able to sustain yourself and, hopefully, family/loved ones. Think critically; the current job market is not favorable to your true necessities...
At my previous job they actually had an older guy (in his 50's, I think) who was formerly a welder and had retrained to work in networking/cybersecurity. Also, one of our interns was older (I'm guessing 40-ish but it was hard to tell). He was a manager at a fastener company but he had gone back to school to do a degree in cybersecurity. They were both great to work with - no complaints. Companies shouldn't be afraid to hire older workers.
I don’t know how old he is but, if he’s pretty young, he can see into the future because I’ve experienced a lot of this and I’m in my fifties. As an older employee, I’ve seen Millenials who look like they wanted for me to retire - when I was in my 40s. Retire or die, just so I wouldn’t be in their way. Gone are the years of experience meaning value. I also worked for a company that was sold just before the recession. This almost caused me to lose my life in the 8 year battle of trying to stay employed. Younger employees aren’t more attractive merely because they may be capable of working longer hours for less, but merely because they think they’re cute and hiring managers agree with them. In some ways, hiring companies should actually be more attracted to higher ing older employees. The sad reality with many older employees is that you will never hire a more obedient, more terrified, more buying into the system, more scared shitless of losing their house, healthcare and retirement, than an employee who knows everyday that, if they lost their job, they’re probably never going to recover. They’re so terrified, they’re NOT EVEN THINKING of applying somewhere else. I look young for my age but, I’m terrified of when I start to look like some of my more obviously aging coworkers, a couple of which use a cane. No one has empathy for you in the current world. In my fifties now, finally having found a well-paying job, Im simply wondering when the large company I work for is going to ditch our previously-acquired division. Whenever that would happen or anything that would cause me a job loss, it would be a bad time for me, so I drive a Hoopdie there everyday. The corporate environment is a stewpot for shapeshifters anyway so, anyone who isn’t scared everyday, has no idea WTF is going on.
That sounds terrible... I really hope things get better, and I hope I take the advice you and Joshua are giving instead of giving up and dying, either on the streets or in my closet
Darixan I hope so, as well. As you age, you do quite often garner a certain amount of coping skills. Still, it can be difficult as, there’s always a new curveball.
@@darixan3483 hope doesn't help. Make a plan and cover all your bases. By the time you're 50, you should be making a comfortable income from investments.
@@pdorism Hope’s kept me from tying myself up a tree, but I guess you’re right. Sooner or later, I’ll die anyway, and the hope I had really wouldn’t have done much
So, here it is a year later. I’m still with the same company, but because I’m still alive, I’m worried. My boss’s boss recently quit. Probably because they were repeatedly passed over for a promotion they were after. My boss, who I’m friends with, has doubled the size of our team. They’ve told me that the purpose is because of all the work that will be coming in, but even though it’s been busy this year, it hasn’t, during the past 3 weeks or so and WFH ends tomorrow, at least intermittently to start. What I actually think is brewing is that they’ve hired all these people, for their own possibilities at promotion. That, the larger the team you’re managing, the more likely you’ll be promoted. Kind of bad as, I like my boss but, I don’t know that he has more to offer than just having a larger team under him, that he might not be any better at managing actually. If he gets promoted, it also leaves an opening for someone on our team that is a workaholic yes man, to the point of being ULTRA SICKENING. If that happens, we can kiss nights and weekends bye bye, working for this zealot and, again, although my boss and I are friends, I know him well enough to know that he’ll disengage and see nor do anything about it. So, although I still have no plans to quit, as I don’t quite have the funds, I’m just waiting to be vested next year. I know that a few people quit or retire, right after being vested, if they can afford to do so. But, I expect there to be more changes and weirdness than there ever was, for a few factors. A LOT of people are miserable returning to the office. All you have to do is look at Reddit and see how angry people are and some have quit and moved on from archaic companies, like my employer, who are determined to get everyone back into the “no life” work life. A place that has no flexibility. No summer Fridays. Get ready for people to ditch. Things are so weird in corporations nowadays that you have to be nice to people who are a PoS, because they can be fired one day and show up as your boss, the next. I’ve seen my boss lay a contractor off twice, only to be walking past an office and see them sitting there, months later, and nothing had even been said about their return. Whole thing is weird.
@Paddy Mcgill Agreed! It sucks because everyone at my college would rather play video games shred some mountain bikes on the weekends, despite my college beinng in close distance to some gnarly tracks.
I'm still doing it. I'll get my foot in the door get the experience I need and build my future in tech. Because the alternative is a perpetual excercise in bitter futility.
The claim that "as time goes by more young people that are willing to work harder than you and for less money are entring the market" can be said both to self emplyed people and corprate people. Being self emplyed does not help you with that
@Master Minder as every young person i wanted to go to the big city and make it on my own and soon i realized that this is a pipe dream. I felt ok my first year of corporate and then after i saw everything that is going on i became very miserable. You are basically a modern slave.
A very big flaw in this analysis is that it speaks about the future based on today's facts. But these facts will be different 20 years from now. The reason employees are thrown out after 45 is that we have surplus of young graduates. But ask yourself, will we have this surplus in 20 years from now. No, because we are not producing even half the children our parents produced.
But fewer children means there will be a much higher surplus because the demand will decrease and the supply won't because everyone is getting a college degree nowadays, as opposed to the past where it was the minority.
Companies don't treat you like a family member or friend in any but the most superficial way. You may be good friends with your boss, but if your boss's higher up decides you need to go to make way for a low paid, hungry college grad, you're done, no matter how long you've been there and how "valued" they've made you feel.
As an Italian and an European my impression is that the life standards of the us citizens are falling down. I mean we study for free and have free Medicare. Well more than that in Italy after 64 yrs old we also receive a very small social retirement. Also in Italy 80% of families are the owners of their house. So what can I say , I am so sorry for the guys of 20/30 living in the us. For sure here in Italy we have less job opportunities but we don't have to face this kind of unbelievable problems and fears. I admire USA for so many reasons but you don't have anymore any kind of social state. It's just like the people are left alone , but for real . And that's not ok.
To be honest, a large part of that is because we've been paying the Lion's share of the cost of protecting you militarily since the end of world war II. It is what it is.
@@SKBottom for sure I know that nowadays you are the actual 'roman empire' , some geopolitical experts call it the price of domination, meaning that the citizen of the dominating states paradoxically live someway less good in term of lifestyle than the dominated state. I perfectly know thet USA control more than half of the world.. but one thing is the military power , I think that the discussion between people , simply people are on a different level of discussion. Just saying thisz just trying to affirm this paradoxical fact.
I've chose the route of being a civil servant. It may not be exciting but it pays well, benefits and such and I know I can work those kind of jobs at an old age because retirement is not guaranteed nowadays
Freshman year of college and just got my first job offer from a newly founded software company. I'm being wary and keeping tabs on everything, but I'm pretty excited too! Thanks for keeping everyone aware of company shenanigans.
Very nice point about agism. In my mid-forties, I took a position with a pay cut - but with union protections -specifically because I was concerned about agism going forward. :)
How am I only seeing this video now. I did exactly what you said Josh. I was employed at Huawei for a couple of years and after realising that I was making more money before joining the company( through freelance work). I pushed management for a raise, they kept pushing the carrot forward 😤 Until I wanted to resign, that’s when they decided that I will get a raise but it was too late. I was already at the point of no return
wish i woulda seen this 13 years ago when i got outta college. especially in oil and gas where people who have forgotten more knowledge than I'll ever have are tossed out like last weeks garbage....
I got screwed in my early years as I graduated in 2008. McDonald's at that time wanted a bachelor's degree with 5 years of fast food experience and recruiters told me I was unemployable because I didn't have 5 years of experience in a niche because I went to get a degree in Electrical Engineering. So, yeah, I was screwed.
The recruiter is trying to mess with your head by saying nonsense such as that. Your engineering degree is valuable. The recruiter want to twist your reality by spewing out bs.
@@jeremiahhasudungansihombin1882 during a negotiation one party wants to take advantage of another. The only thing is that he recruiter have a lot of experience manipulating and screwing with new hires through shaming and lying. They get paid based on commission. They have a lot of time to prepare for the mental mind battle.
@@jeremiahhasudungansihombin1882 I recovered and I now am an experience mobile app developer. However, I lost over a decade of my professional life. I never fully utilized my Engineering degree nor my masters which was also Engineering. My speciality was in optics and optical electronics with emphasis on solar energy. There is a lot whining and crying that companies want engineers, but when you show up on their doorstep looking to utilize that education, they tell you to pound sand. I am still jaded from the whole experience.
@@lirdulce5292 Yeahh thats really truee, Tecnology based company should really leave this bullshit PR/HR/Recruiter, and just built a Python App to process new recruit.
I am 63 y/o and this is good advice folks. Yes I am a boomer. Every company I worked for was bought out or failed since the late 80"s. The crazy feel good stuff started in the 90"s. Luckily I jumped ship on those companies before they were bought out. One company got me all when they flat out failed and everybody shown the door in about 2001. The friends still at the companies after they changed owners told me how much worse it had become. After awhile of this, I was a quiet quitter within the first month on the new job. Luckily I made it to retirement. There is no way this disgruntled boomer would put up with all that BS now. I would never make it past an interview.
Self employed in the software business is the same as contractor, as far as working for someone else & competing with the same lower cost labor. The mane difference is getting to pay corporate taxes instead of income tax.
Hopefully one day I can become happily self employed, but for now I'm stuck grinding the so called corporate ladder. Not the worst thing after recently graduating college, but I hope that I can settle down somewhere quiet and laid back and work from home for the latter part of my working life. That's sounds like an ideal life for me. I hate city and urban lifestyles, but I have to endure it for now as I gain enough skills and financial resources to hopefully make a sustainable transition later on.
there's a third path, its the same as a company man but the trick is, the work is why you keep doing it (because you enjoy it), with the end goal of setting yourself up for early retirement and doing whatever the F you want to do (such as going freelance and doing what you love still). I am transitioning to that right now, finally, after 25 years in IT :) All the dominos have fallen in place, its quite a great feeling. All the while loving the work.
Thank you so much for the heads up. You’re like a career brother/father figure especially for an immigrant like myself who doesn’t have family guidance. 🙏🏻
Josh you just scared the shit out of me. I am aspiring to get a wed dev job in the U.S , but based on what you just said, theres gonna be risk involved.
Competing for higher corporate ladder, is what makes people sad, depressed and out of reality. I never understand why people start to backstab each other to get higher position? Yea, money are great. But what people want is power and to best their ego. They want to boss around, control people, look them like they are below them. Get some work experience and start own business.
Avoided college like the plague because I wasn't sure of what I wanted to do and feared the burden of debt. Done a lot of things in my life. I recently managed to land an IT position with no prior industry experience because I knew the keyboard shortcuts and told them I built/maintained my own PC as a gamer. Life gives you anecdotal moments that are critical you can convey well during an interview. W-2 Income and a schedule are a hell of a thing to have.
The most off putting thing about the career I went into was when one of my new coworkers said "welcome to working the rest of your life" in the most depressing tone ever, a bit after that point I realized I do not like Civil Engineering. So now I am just wondering what to do.
Anyway we can get a 2021/2022 version of this video. There were parts of this video that were powerful and its one of the few videos i have saved under the fluke playlist and wondering what a second version of this video could be like. This message is rare and unseen in any of your videos. So it would be refreshing to see an updated version of this. It’s a smack to the face. Much needed
Hey man, I've been watching pretty much all your videos from the beginning of this year and I gotta say you made me motivated to learn & all you are saying about corporations is very true. Wish you all the best and kutgw!
I think you can have a middle ground here. You can get some experience in a tech company. With the goal to learn as much as you can. After let's say 5 to 10 years of experience you can switch to become a freelancer or build your own company in that field. I'm not saying that this is something everybody can do but it will make your life easier becoming a freelancer because your not that student that just finished college but the guy who at least on paper knows some stuff and knows how the industry works. Of course the older you get the harder the jump will be. Also in both cases, you have to educate yourself all the time because everything and by everything I mean everything changes around you.
I was a supervisor of pipeline and technology for a very large and well-known company supporting the infrastructure on a multi-million dollar franchise. After that, I went to be a TPM of a start-up, which I would have not gone to but the CEO lied about the actual funding (said we had 3-4 years work, it was more like 6 months). After losing that job I have been snubbed all over the bay area. "Senior managers" not a day over 30 scoffing at my experience. Focusing on what I didn't know, rather than inquiring about what I did know and challenges I overcame. Because I don't have a BS or Masters I couldn't possibly be qualified as a software engineer, even tho I had been. Because I don't at least have a Masters I can not manage, even tho I had been a manager. I don't have a PMP so there is no possible way I could be a project manager, even tho I also functioned as my department's project manager (as well as being the supe). Despite one of my A.S degrees being in computer networking (and have been the admin of a Linux server farm) I get snubbed on IT jobs because I don't remember random things like manual subnet masking, which I had done in college but it was never part of my professional responsibilities after college. Today I am driving a semi-truck. It is kind of nice not to be sitting in an office, but it is depressing when I reflect on the money I used to make compared to what I make now. Listen to other drives say "I told my kid to go to college so they don't have to drive like me" and I am all "Shit I went to college, two degrees, published author, verifiable corporate experience, and I AM DRIVING" On the side, I am trying to figure out my own gig. Most likely not software. Still working on a plan.
What I've figured out is that job interviews are always supposed to make you look like a moron, it's so they'll have an excuse to give you less money IF you'd get ''lucky enough to work for them''. Basically playing hard to get, just highlight their weaknesses and tell them how you could help them in that area. No other way.
Actually if you are going to worker route. All you have to do is get into the union if you are looking to work towards retirement you won't be at risk of being fired for things like ageism
This is 100% true. I’ve ran disparate impact analyses for workforce reductions to check for discrimination and the most consistently reduced groups are the older employees (statistically speaking)
Be me: - 35 years old - Making 20/h part time job as supply chain clerk - Attending non-ranked MBA program - Living at home - Mom died in October - No skillsets, no certifications What's the point of living again? Man, I have literally been unconsciously suicidal for close to two decades. I know kids who are 22 and make way more than. I have never made more than 30k a year. I literally don't think its worth living anymore if you haven't made it by a certain age, as it gets harder to learn new things or harder to get into certain industries with no experience at such an old age in comparison to your peers. Code? Not everyone can code. A part of me thinks everyday about just saying fuck it and roping it. The only thing that is kind of keeping me here my dad and my dogs. I was born hard of hearing and have worn hearing aids all my life, which means I have had only heard maybe 50% of what people have said in my lifetime. All those classrooms, interviews, dates, etc add up when you can't hear well and suffer from anxiety of ever fitting in. Shit, its hard. I stumbled upon your channel Josh and you are wise in your years. I could be cut tomorrow as a contractor. I'm expendable. I was cut into a new contract gig in within 3 weeks into 2020 and then was unemployed all of that year and then my mom died in October. Makes you really question things. I used to do bodybuilding in my 20s and did a few shows. I bring that up because in bodybuilding, you notice that there is a trait among those who compete at a high level and are muscular. It seems they all suffered from a traumatic childhood, being scarred, and jumping into lifting iron to wash away the pain and chase the pump in the weight room. Most who do that will stumble into gear and eventually competition. So I did bodybuilding my mid to late 20s and didn't really focus on growing individually or having a career. I wasted my 20s and didn't even graduate college until 33. So far, this story, seen from afar from anybody, may question this persons life choices. Yeah, I would do the same if someone told me this story I guess. I don't think you're a race against time after you graduate college. You're in a race against time as soon as you're born but only appears to turn faster and faster as you age. Unfortunately, I will probably be a part of that class of citizens in the near future that won't have a job, no matter how hard my low IQ brain works, due to automation and a lackadaisical skillset. I think one of the last great rights that Americans will ever argue with, if the government doesn't absolve before then, is the right to ones life aka suicide. Remember that suicide booth scene from Futurama? That scene alone was way of ahead of its time, probably by 50 to 70 years. We already have a suicide booth machine, called Sarco (made in Europe). That shit is the future right there fam. Do you want to live in a world where nobody finds value in you? Where minimal wage hasn't kept up with CPI? I swear, republicans by 2050 will hope minimum wage is still $7.50 lmao. Well I guess my post was long and winding, so I'll exit out and let you be Josh. Also, I saw that vid of that ex-gf of yours cheating on you. WTF was wrong with her lmao.
Bottom line, don't take work personally. Don't be afraid to take what you can from the company (legally), and leave if you get something better. After 25 years in engineering, as a naive young college grad, I thought I'd be absorbed into a company and adored and they'd groom me to move up the ladder. Nope. I got walked all over, made false promises, and every excuse in the book why I can't get a raise, yet they still ask you to be a "team player" and be positive about the company... FFFFFFF UUUUUU.
I worked at a smaller tool and die shop for ten years I got to the point where I was dragging day to day .. I made a big move into a bigger shop and am treated way better financially and just in general almost two years in the place and so far so good
Doing absolutely the least you can and not showing up if no one notices is not a criminal matter. Corpos do it to us.
Pure facts! As someone who’s been in the industry for 10yrs. This is crucial information.
If you choose the corporate route...
I’ve always said, the absolute best companies to work for are mid-sized, privately owned companies.
Roughly 50-200 employees.
Small start up companies are too fragile and can let you go at anytime.
Large corporations are annoying and there are too many rules in their rule books.
I would add that large corporations can cut your job anytime, as well. With startups, high risk against stability is expected, as those early years are spent fighting for survival. At least you know that going in.
Large businesses undergo "organizational changes," from merger/acquisitions to adjusting to last year's poor performance to inter-department musical cubicles to new technology. If you keep up with news on your company and its growth/reduction trends past 5-10 years, you at least have a clearer picture.
Did exactly that, eventually company grew to 1000 people and started to be the "anoying one" with HR BS and basically drove all of the old-crew away. After a year most of the guys I liked to work with quit and were replaced by sub-par (but cheaper and devoted) workforce. Now I wish I never worked there because it feels like such a huge waste of time now.
I've worked at a mid sized company in the past, roughly ~80 employees.
Half of those employees where middle managers, contributing absolutely zero value to the company...
I quit after only 1.5 years, they replaced me with an IT-manager having the sole competence to pick up a phone and call for overpriced external aid.
*I only got payed to do one job, yet when I quit I quit the following jobs:*
- back e. developer _(where I partially singed up for)_
- front e. developer _(I absolutely hate this)_
- web-designer _(I find web stuff disgusting)_
- game-designer _(I kinda like to design game worlds)_
- game-programmer _(love doing that to)_
- firmware dev _(my hobby, passion and where I was trained / studied for)_
- hardware dev _(my hobby, passion and where I was trained / studied for)_
- electrician _(I love designing circuit-boards because its challenging, mounting wall-plugs on a wall isn't! Hate it)_
- IT help-desk _(Explaining boomers how to use a computer for the 10th time, is the most infuriating activity known to man!)_
- server-admin _(I run my own servers at home so I should love it at work too, except those servers at work are 10 years old garbage being held together with tape.)_
- network-admin _(There is nothing as boring as managing an office network ritheled with low quality garbage hardware...)_
- project manager _(Because those hired to do so where utterly incompetent, so I had to do it myself!)_
- ...
Really depends. I work for a company with 100k employees. And I make 110k at 30 years old and the max salary is 200k. Lots of opportunities and flexible schedule with a load of vacation time
@@blasphimus You're probably in management position?
Yes, I am 48 and was just thrown out of job with kind words "we like how you work, we like you , but we must cut our costs" At the same time, they hired a younger person ( my former apprentice ) bet, but even tried to hide it from me.
Listen to the warning, and never ever believe that hard work , loyalty, skills and knowledge will be even considered when layoffs will happen.
So what is considered?
@@darpur5469 In my case - i "was not his man" ( what my manager told other managers ) In other words I was in different country than he. But you never know actually...
@@ctrlz4439 should have got a government job
@@k-c talk to employment lawyer
@@sarahconner9433 For what? To get forcibly re-hired by a company who doesn't want you?
Employer: we're looking for someone 20-25 with 20 years experience.
Also employer: oh, you're 40 with 20 years experience? Sorry, you're too old.
Me: Can I have a job?
Employer: You must have education before you can work here! Education is the end all be all of working life. Very important. Come back when you have some education.
5 years later
Me: Hey I completed this education in the area that you wanted, can I have a job?
Employer: But thats just education! It dosnt count! You know nothing! Come back when you have REAL knowledge AKA experience. We don't hire people without experience.
5 years later
Me: Hey it took a ton of effort, but I got some experience selling my time for extreme low wage to do internships to these other companies to get the experience you requested. Can I have a job now?
Employer: Your experience is to general. We need this very specific area of expertise, that can only be aquired in certain positions. Come back when you have this very specific, narrow expertise.
5 years later
Me: I am exhausted from trying to meet your ridiculous demands, but by sacrificing my youth and not have any kids, cars or property nor pension, I was able to aquire the experience you requested on my own. Can I now have a job?
Employer: You are too old.
You 50 with 2 years experience? What in hell is wrong with you?
Jabberdau - LOL
@@Jabberdau This corporate world makes no sense. But I hope all of you find your way through it all.
Pretty much sums it up.
Well this definitely didn't give me more anxiety
I will surely sleep like a baby without that anxiety creeeping on the otherside of the bed!
Yeah right, David the computer scientist is gonna have a harder time getting a job than John Doe the liberal arts major in painting. Get real, every year the US goes with a massive shortage of computer scientists. He's just spreading fear mongering. As for the "making your self indispensable", that applies to every job.
@thomas samson I am not into the industry yet, learning and trying to get first experience, but I feel what you feel/know. And as a foriner I know how huge is outsourcing
@@89Valkyrie The shortage is a myth. You have no idea what you're talking about. Look at the data
@@89Valkyrie lmao imagine leaving comments just to hate.
Usually the best route is to work for a company in your 20's to gain professional experience, then start your own business in your 30's so you're in good shape by your 40's. Another reason to do this is people take you more seriously in your 30's as a mature adult. Careers are for suckers. Better to use jobs to build capital and professional skills, then get out of the rat race before it chews you up and spits you out.
That was my plan. I'm 33 and trying to get a UI/UX job, it's really tough out there. I do retail (which I hate) while supporting after a sick mum and dad. Sometimes I think I am too late.
@@GraveRave Its not too late at 33. Some people don't get out until their 40's. If you were 60 I would say it might be too late, but not at 33 lol.
@@PaulClipMaster That's good to know mate, guess I'll keep on the grind then
@@GraveRave Hey i am 33 i am trying to get my prop building business for 3d printing this year started, but also open to learning other remote jobs as well, always been a creative spirit
or just work for govt.
Dang this guy talks like he's been dragged through the trenches. His wisdom is beyond his years.
He has lol
I’m 53 and nodding my head.. lol. I haven’t seen a raise in 10 years and always looking for the AXE.... this guy is preaching the I.T gospel
Shit the axe came down hard this week... hardwork nor seniority didn’t save many...
So many managers lost.
My python programming is going slow... need to kick it up a notch
Facts.
His father suffered from all these issues from corp companies. That's how he knows.
Josh is right. Biggest salary jumps are always through switching jobs/companies. My current company pays me $48k. After one year at this company, I'm in the interview process for two jobs that leave me around $60k annually. Never settle for less than you deserve. My next jump will be $65k-$70k. I'm 25, no college.
what do you do?
Yessir… same shit.
@@mondude89 narcotics
Excellent.
Keep on keeping on.
I also I got a lambo and a supermodel girlfriend
Interviewer: So, how are your kids?
Candidate: Uh, great?
Interviewer: You have kids? Nice! Anyways, we're deciding on other candidates. You're qualifications don't match this position.
illegal question though..
1MinuteFlipDoc p
Here in Russia they actually ask for your marital status and whether you have kids or not during the interview process. Like... every single time. 😒
usually they love fools with kids, they are farm more easy to manipulate and will accept lower wages and horrible conditions
A couple of days ago I had an interview. Among the questions were "Where do you live?", "Who do you live with?", "Are you single or married?", "Do you have kids?", "What do your mate and your parents do for a living?", "How much are you earning at your current job?", "What are the benefits?", "What is your job schedule?"
This advice is gold. Unfortunately it usually takes one like 3-5 years of soul killing jobs to figure these things out. 3-5 years of no skill/business/escape plan building.
truth bomb
True. But maybe that's why I'm finding my new mindset of; learn from other people's mistake, instead of from myself, so beneficial lately
Me right now but luckly im 30 and learning sooner then later
You must get tired of the shitty situation first!!!!! Then Change Happens !!!
Another big reason small companies get bought-out is to kill off an up-and-coming competitor.
Or because they pay a fuck ton of money and the owner of the company thinks just like wonderful Joshua here.. "you better get paid before you die". Instead of looking at the big picture like the robot himself Mark Zuckerberg
Guess they learned from Yahoo's mistake.
Acquisitions can also be really, really bad for the company doing the acquisition. "Redundancies" pop up on both sides and there's usually little to no warning. Also simply becoming a larger company means that you end up with more narrow specializations and project management assholes. Versatile, jack-of-all-trades types get cut or pushed into roles so boring they just leave as soon as they can.
@@likemysnopp Until you've built something yourself, you'll never understand.
@@NickMart1985 I've built plenty of things myself lol
You will want to change careers; it's a natural urge, so don't feel too conflicted when it happens. It doesn't mean you made a mistake (it doesn't mean you didn't), it just means you're a rational human being.
Corporate boomer here - Josh is spot on with this.
For those taking the employment route, strongly consider pursuing a government job versus the private sector. Just have to read countless "early retirement" testimonials from government workers to see the benefits.
The government is about the only entity that offers pension and healthcare at earlier ages.
Its hard for young folks to think that far out in age but the effort pays off.
@Nelson Pay may be lower but not always boring, but thats my experience. I work in the research field and the government projects are like fucking deep pocketed stuff thats awesome, super good job reliability, and they're much more willing to work with you than to use you. But I got paid peanuts, maybe its cuz i was an intern but idk.
yeah and then you are directly plugged into the machine that ruins lives and the world. killee babies once before realizing im the bad guy. how can you choose comfort if its linked to stepping on others
I wouldn't work for the government due to the vaccine mandates. My corporate company doesn't require it.
@@jonathan6480 Neither did my old company until the CEO died of COVID and COO was hospitalized from it
no, start with private sector than move to public and work there until you unlocked pensions.
Its also great because trying to get fired is hard in public sector because of union and all.
Also, invest money when you are young. Instead of buying a fancy car/other stuff which isn't an asset that you don't really need, invest your money. Don't wait until 10 years before retirement to start planning for it, if you do that you're going to be stuck working until you're in your 80's (with a condescending insecure immature manager who is 60 years younger than you)
and how would one get into investing?
Talking is easy, but taking action is difficult. What kinds of invest money you prefer? I already invested my time, effort, and money for my degree, and I graduated from San Jose State University in Dec 2018. I haven't had any debt yet, and so far I have $70,000 cash in my saving and $20,000 in my 401K. 1 million dollar can't even buy a broken house in Bay Area. In the next 10 years, I may have $500,000 cash, but I feel like my cash is just like papers.
@@dh8148 Lol index funds are a terrible idea.. you will never be rich investing in index funds, only maybe when you're 80 years old. Use the stock market to preserve wealth, not create it. Read The Millionaire Fastlane by MJ Demarco.
@@dh8148 yeah index funds are your retirement money. For quick returns have to dabble in stocks or day trading.
If you really want to make money you got to create a product or service that helps other people in return for money. What are you already good at that you can teach other people? Start a Blog, Create an ebook, start a RUclips channel, start affiliate marketing, start a crypto mining farm, start a cannabis farm( if in a legal state). These are just some ways to make a lot of money in 1-5 years.
Everyone just needs to grasp the idea that after a certain financial point ($70k/y average) it's not about how much you make but how you make It.
It's also about how much you KEEP.
@@mfhfreq21 saving isnt a good thing, money is power that can be leveraged to make more money (of course have some savings), but its best to invest it into something like passive cashflow, for example real estate
@@MikaelAbehsera That's my point.
Save more of your money so in the future you can invest it in valuable assets. Use your money to make more money, like Rich Dad, Poor Dad advises.
Too many ppl buy into the myth that a 100k + job guarantees you financial freedom. The majority of your paycheck still goes towards all of your expenses, and after taxes, you're not left with much when it all adds up.
@dwh wealth is not vanity, it's freedom.
The ability to move around easily. To always have a roof over your head, clean water, food, health treatment and clothes, that is freedom.
And out of all that I mentioned, only one or two at best are guaranteed for you in developed countries, and in others none at all.
Most of us grew in providing environments where we have parental figures provide us with all of these, and it creates the illusion that as long as we do as instructed, it will always be the case.
It's not. And when the shit hits the fan, only those that secured their wealth will survive the waves.
Wealth isn't about buying fancy cars, that's frivolity. Wealth is the ability to survive and live well in a modern standard no matter how bad it gets, short of nuclear Armageddon.
Securing wealth as early as you can and being responsible when you're young is the only route to freeing yourself and your family from the chains of wageslaving and surrendering your freedom to those who would enjoy nothing more than to abuse you for their own wealth gains.
"You either decide to be self-employed or you decide to be a corporate ladder guy" those words contain so much truth. I chose option 1 3 months ago and currently using my employer to fund my dreams.
but why not chose to be a corporate ladder guy for the first few years to gain some experience in the field and THEN go solo? why do you have to choose?
omat baydaui Good question. Well if you work corporate then go solo... it basically meant you chose the solo route. The fact that you went corporate at first was just a strategy.
I won.
It's also bs. What about doctors and nurses? Plumbers? Care workers? Educators?
@Sjm Ddlj OK, what's your point? I never said doctors make little money.
When I was young, I went self employed. It was an internet cafe. As time progressed, it became irrelevant so I got a job corporate. It was a call center. As time progressed, my body couldn't take it anymore so I took the third choice. I did a civil service exam and applied for a government job and I've never been happier.
When people think government jobs, people think working long hours in an office. It isn't. I repair and maintain computers used by government offices. Sometimes I install new equipment to modernize branches that have documents originally typed on type writers.
I'm treated as an asset. Its a lone wolf job. I manage my own time. It pays better than any job I ever got. We get holidays off ffs. Benefits are paid for by the government and so will my pension when I retire. I'm 40 now. I wish I knew about this job like 10 to 15 years ago.
FYI getting a government job is like winning the lottery, there's usually hundreds of people lined up for them.
@@TheUmnez Actually it isn't. Our office is understaffed by at least 11 people. We keep asking for people but not everyone is willing to go through a civil service exam. The scheduling is like once a year and you have to wait months for the results. If you fail, you'll have to reschedule. Governments also prioritize skilled workers like mechanics, plumbers, electricians, teachers, nurses, most jobs that people don't want to learn to do. For me, my job is mostly spent crawling under dusty tables and setting up ethernet cables through walls. Its not fun but its better than getting yelled at by people over the phone in a call center.
How could your body not take call center work but you crawl under dusty tables now? Just curious
@B117 I guess it is but my job title is just Computer Technician 1. Other people go out climbing stuff and do fiber optic infrastructure. And then there are others on our branch that develop and maintain the communication software offices use on their day to day tasks. I thought the data base people were the IT.
@@djriize We work night shifts. We have mandatory 4 hour over times almost everyday. I spent 5 of my Christmases and New Years working, gettinf yelled at by Americans. I handled AT&T and Verizon accounts. My current job doesn't require me to do over time. Computers never complain and during Christmas season we get vacation time from 24 Dec and not neex to get back to work till 02 Jan. Also, every non working holiday, we don't need to go to work. I'm basically treated as a person, not a machine.
I have been at my same place for almost 6 years and have only gotten the typical 3-5% raises every year. I did get certified and now I'm having interviews at other places paying $+12k-25k more. Make sure to get certifications if your profession requires it, especially while you are young.
I think long-term, self-employed is a better route if you consider that you're building brand equity for yourself, choosing to build products to sell to customers you value, rather than who the company is selling to (you may find that you don't like that company's customers), and you can focus on your strengths more, versus try to dilute it due to "company bureaucracy".
I am 36 and I feel trapped as fuck. Just trying to take a leap of faith and quit and start something new but its damn difficult when you have a family and bills. But I hope I will be able to ride this out.
Any updates on how you’re doing?
@@advenco344 with gods grace I am doing well. I was able to change the job finally and come to a much much better company to work with anf thankfully a great manager to go along. Thank you for asking me this question and taking me back to the day when I posted this as just yesterday I completed three years since I made that change 🙏
Gosh so true, I lost my job at 44 and feeling this sooooo much.
What did you do and how did you manage after you lost your job?
@@MJ-yx2fk I have been applying for jobs for over a year, and I barely can manage my sanity. Healthwise happy, financially had to really tighten the belt but the lockdown helps as we can't go out and spend anyways.
@@LorettaChin I lost my job at 40 and nearly kill myself after being rejected on aprox 50 interviews. I fell deep into unmedicated major depression. fortunately a colleague died and a position got open. now I am very happily employed and grateful every day.
@@sapitron don't say 'fortunately' bro😂
@@fideletinosa3716 trust me COVID opened a lot of long held positions by killing their occupants. The same will happen when I retire.
Josh is really bright in a lot of ways. Not only do you need connection but a unique skill too yes. This is really brilliant. We need even more people to keep pushing public opinion to recognize the workforce that makes these CEO’s so wealthy. Bigger companies and public sector of you want to stay at same place
This is probably your best video. This is very important advice.
In the business world, there are CEOs and workers. If you're a worker, you're an expendable commodity. You're just a cog in the machine. Humanity is on the decline as more and more companies see automation as the key to their success.
In the eternal words of my old bakery team leader: "There's always another job." Dude was 40 years old working in a supermarket bakery and was worth over a quarter of a million in investments alone. He was planning on retiring by the age of 50. Just keep your mind on your money, plan to retire early, and if shit hits the fan you're covered.
@Jokerpilled Saint Look up the 4% rule. The money you have needs to be invested into assets such as the stock market or real estate (or both). With that much money you have a good start. You need to invest it though. Money that sits around just rots due to inflation and will not get you any cash flow that you need to retire.
That's exactly what I did. Worked at restaurants, several factories, and eventually invested my way out of work -- I make more money running my own AC and plumbing service calls at my rentals than most any hourly job pays. My stock investments don't require as much effort, but I enjoy buying and studying stocks.
Work hard, save money, and live way below your mean. You will be happy.
Behold, the keys to the kingdom.
This is so true. At my job this week I've met an art director that worked at Ubisoft for 10,years. He worked on Assassin's Creed Origins. And all of sudden, after the game released they fired him and hired new graduates ... Crazy.
I go to university in a city with a Ubisoft HQ and you wouldn't believe the amount of fellow students who want nothing more than give their entire life to Ubisoft or any other game company.
Passion + Rationality = Happiness
Passion - Rationality = Sadness
Joshua, thank you for all the great content, you have done a lot to expose a world that seems almost to be hidden. I enjoy your videos and they have real utility outside of the computer screen. please cheer up!
#yanggang and for the record I've been self-employed the majority of my life, and those years I was working inside of companies rather than as a contractor, entrepreneur, or freelancer, were the worst years of my life. I would 100% prefer to do something like cutting yards and maintenance from a self-built clientele than to go back to any corporation. (I'm a full-stack web dev with a degree in graphic design and have been solo for the last 4 years, working remote :D )
Wait are u also self taught thats amazing ive been trynna do it as well do u have any tips
@@Shadow-il7xh I have a little question if you don't mind, joshua in his video says that when you'r a fresh graduate, you either chose to grind the corporate ladder or you work for yourself, but why do you have to chose? isn't working for a corporation to gain experience and then try to work for yourself a much better idea?
@@omatbaydaui722 Do whatever you think is best for you. At the end of the day, you are responsibility for where you go in life.
The problems with corporate jobs are: 1) they have to be profitable 2) managers have a lot of fears. Therefore no matter how smart you are, your boss needs reliable puppies with zero critical thinking. Otherwise they would have hired people who studied humanities, as long as any degree doesn't provide you with the practical experience. On the other hand a CEO must be the smartest person in the room, and the majority of them hold a degree in Philosophy
Thank you! Made a career change from the fitness industry to IT. I’m 30 and you’re right. As you mature, you have a certain lifestyle you’ve built over time. As I’m starting my IT career, what I’m realizing. They’ll take anyone who’s willing to do the job for less.
Just curious how's that working out. I'm looking to switch to programming from civil engineering at 36 and I'm nervous tbh. I know there's tons of eager 20 somethings who could fill those roles quicker than me
@@CleverNameTBD become a security engineer bro. You can build your own firm after 8+ in industry.
@@CleverNameTBD how it went? and what was wrong with civil engineering in the first place?
I don't know much about the US market, I was born and raised in Argentina and now live in Belgium. I am 42 years of age. What I hear a lot is that people from younger generations are very pretentious in their expectations. While I have been cut from my previous job due to age reasons, afterwards I landed four job interviews out of nine job applications (I rejected one job due to personal reasons, I have to check how things go in 2 of these 4 interviews). And I am doing a career switch from a technician position to regulatory affairs.
I think that this trend noted by Josh in the first three minutes may not subsist in the long run, if younger generations aren't interested in working, companies will have little choice when hiring personnel.
Yes, there are garbage and meat grinding jobs that are being avoided by everybody and maybe those jobs are the ones being left for the fortifivers and beyond. But if you are a minimalist and someone who wants to work for a living, you are a rare species, and that can give you advantage.
Remember, good companies/employers are in short supply. So are honorable trustworthy and decent employees who do not use drugs, do not have alcohol problems, are mentally stable, and have a well-formed moral conscience.
A final remark. You say younger people will compete against fortifivers. I say:
1) go to duckduckgo
2) search: "demographic winter" AND "united states"
This also applies to Europe and nearly every western-culture nation. One-night stands, abortion, free sex, moneyz, and living la vida loca have caused birth rates to plummet all over the world. Meaning: you will not have younger people to compete against, because there will be no younger people; and you will work til you die because there will be no pensions. Don't believe me? Check the demographic pyramid of the Netherlands or Spain. Feel free to do that with any random country in the northern hemisphere.
TL; DR = there are people over forty getting job interviews and shifting careers. And the plummeting of the birthrates will allow you to work until you die because there are no younger people and there will be no sustainable pension schemes.
A topic you might cover sometime - apologizing. To coworkers. Customers. Bosses. Etc.
Be VERY selective when apologizing. A lot of people overly apologize to be polite. The problem is when you apologize in work - even if they KNOW you just being polite - you paint a target on yourself. You are now the guy that handles it. You are the sole responsibility holder. YOU are the name dropped for every issue associated with your company/division/line of business. Do not apologize unless it’s absolutely necessary and you yourself are clearly to blame.
This along with other videos have completely changed my perspective, gonna do more digging but it was a serious eye opener.
I’m the type to be very skeptical of what youtubers say. And I can honestly say, this video is ALL truth right here.
"Inflation Negation" - I got a 1% raise last year ... that didn't even cover my rent and utility increases
I've been looking for a new job for months
Having a side business beside a full-time job has less risk. But that also needs some sacrifice to do that. And if a full-time job takes over time than usual, it is tougher to create any form of side business.
Mahmud Ahsan You absolutely can work a 9-5 and build a side business at the same time, especially if that side business is an internet business.
André Penedo Trying to start a business with something you’re not obsessed about is a recipe for disaster. I can help you. Will cover this in future videos
@André Penedo Please try to do something from small. Half done product is not done at all. Also, try to work little by little every day. Over time you will create a complete product.
I want my expired birthday cake and $2 card from the dollar mart. Happy 45 years.
Also :"Thanks for being with us for the past 25 years, have a nice day!" :))
Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
Very helpful perspective, as always!
Love this video bro. The lessons you shared can only be experienced but rarely taught. Thank you for the honesty
Man you're so right, every time I watch your videos I get angry at myself for not having figured that out myself. I should do what I really want, no matter what, and at the pay level that will guarantee myself a good life, no matter what, because these CEOs and CFOs and what not, they already figured it out, years ahead of me.
This is one of the most useful videos I’ve ever watched!
This guy Josh is giving great career advice. I remember years ago, I had a part timeless job at a big national home improvement retailer. There was a guy there who was a dept manager (an hourly position) who was really pushing to become an asst store manager. He was a former high school star football player, he pushed his guys really hard. He really believed in the company. He wanted to get promoted so badly.Some of the guys complained to the store management about him. Several weeks later they took him aside and fired him. He had to clean out his locker and leave. As he left the store, he was crying. It was pathetic. Guys, these companies will fire you at any time for any reason.
The other relevant point (in addition to those in the video) is that your race against time is also your race towards retirement. Can you bankroll enough money to retire at 65? 75? Do you want to work until you die as a convenience store greeter? Your job isn't about corporate picnics and bean bag chairs, it's about being able to sustain yourself and, hopefully, family/loved ones. Think critically; the current job market is not favorable to your true necessities...
thats why public service is a niche field.
At my previous job they actually had an older guy (in his 50's, I think) who was formerly a welder and had retrained to work in networking/cybersecurity. Also, one of our interns was older (I'm guessing 40-ish but it was hard to tell). He was a manager at a fastener company but he had gone back to school to do a degree in cybersecurity. They were both great to work with - no complaints. Companies shouldn't be afraid to hire older workers.
Dude we're the same age and I'm working on an associate's degree. This video scared the hell out of me 😱😱😱
@Ruben Ponce True man!!!! Most ppl that stay that long in the workplaces are typical losers.
* early-mid-life anxiety intensifies *
me reaching 30years. WHy i hear boss music?!
@André Penedo Guys, 30 is not mid-life lol
I'm 22, but feeling the same thing here
@@fadhilh3931 How lol? Your career hasn't even started yet 😂
I don’t know how old he is but, if he’s pretty young, he can see into the future because I’ve experienced a lot of this and I’m in my fifties.
As an older employee, I’ve seen Millenials who look like they wanted for me to retire - when I was in my 40s. Retire or die, just so I wouldn’t be in their way. Gone are the years of experience meaning value.
I also worked for a company that was sold just before the recession. This almost caused me to lose my life in the 8 year battle of trying to stay employed.
Younger employees aren’t more attractive merely because they may be capable of working longer hours for less, but merely because they think they’re cute and hiring managers agree with them.
In some ways, hiring companies should actually be more attracted to higher ing older employees. The sad reality with many older employees is that you will never hire a more obedient, more terrified, more buying into the system, more scared shitless of losing their house, healthcare and retirement, than an employee who knows everyday that, if they lost their job, they’re probably never going to recover. They’re so terrified, they’re NOT EVEN THINKING of applying somewhere else. I look young for my age but, I’m terrified of when I start to look like some of my more obviously aging coworkers, a couple of which use a cane. No one has empathy for you in the current world.
In my fifties now, finally having found a well-paying job, Im simply wondering when the large company I work for is going to ditch our previously-acquired division. Whenever that would happen or anything that would cause me a job loss, it would be a bad time for me, so I drive a Hoopdie there everyday. The corporate environment is a stewpot for shapeshifters anyway so, anyone who isn’t scared everyday, has no idea WTF is going on.
That sounds terrible... I really hope things get better, and I hope I take the advice you and Joshua are giving instead of giving up and dying, either on the streets or in my closet
Darixan I hope so, as well. As you age, you do quite often garner a certain amount of coping skills. Still, it can be difficult as, there’s always a new curveball.
@@darixan3483 hope doesn't help. Make a plan and cover all your bases. By the time you're 50, you should be making a comfortable income from investments.
@@pdorism Hope’s kept me from tying myself up a tree, but I guess you’re right. Sooner or later, I’ll die anyway, and the hope I had really wouldn’t have done much
So, here it is a year later.
I’m still with the same company, but because I’m still alive, I’m worried.
My boss’s boss recently quit. Probably because they were repeatedly passed over for a promotion they were after. My boss, who I’m friends with, has doubled the size of our team. They’ve told me that the purpose is because of all the work that will be coming in, but even though it’s been busy this year, it hasn’t, during the past 3 weeks or so and WFH ends tomorrow, at least intermittently to start. What I actually think is brewing is that they’ve hired all these people, for their own possibilities at promotion. That, the larger the team you’re managing, the more likely you’ll be promoted. Kind of bad as, I like my boss but, I don’t know that he has more to offer than just having a larger team under him, that he might not be any better at managing actually. If he gets promoted, it also leaves an opening for someone on our team that is a workaholic yes man, to the point of being ULTRA SICKENING. If that happens, we can kiss nights and weekends bye bye, working for this zealot and, again, although my boss and I are friends, I know him well enough to know that he’ll disengage and see nor do anything about it.
So, although I still have no plans to quit, as I don’t quite have the funds, I’m just waiting to be vested next year. I know that a few people quit or retire, right after being vested, if they can afford to do so. But, I expect there to be more changes and weirdness than there ever was, for a few factors. A LOT of people are miserable returning to the office. All you have to do is look at Reddit and see how angry people are and some have quit and moved on from archaic companies, like my employer, who are determined to get everyone back into the “no life” work life. A place that has no flexibility. No summer Fridays. Get ready for people to ditch. Things are so weird in corporations nowadays that you have to be nice to people who are a PoS, because they can be fired one day and show up as your boss, the next. I’ve seen my boss lay a contractor off twice, only to be walking past an office and see them sitting there, months later, and nothing had even been said about their return. Whole thing is weird.
Man this is so true! and depressing at the same time :(
this is why i'm dropping out of school to be a mountaineering guide
if you don't have much school debt, go for it!
do it bro that sounds awesome!
All the best, brother!
@Paddy Mcgill Agreed! It sucks because everyone at my college would rather play video games shred some mountain bikes on the weekends, despite my college beinng in close distance to some gnarly tracks.
Say hi to Yogi bear for me. 😘
This is a vital info for all young graduates. I STRONGLY recommend all to watch this video!
Is this an information channel or a depression channel? XD
Both
Only a misinformation channel.
Omegalul
Its literally just reality. Get "depressed" later or just deal with the truth now
He is breaking people's illusions. He's just a realist. Some people don't like that.
Great to the point video.
Just one detail: companies usually get bought for their users (or clients), not their technology.
I love your dogs.
I'm still doing it. I'll get my foot in the door get the experience I need and build my future in tech. Because the alternative is a perpetual excercise in bitter futility.
Hunts By Chainsaw ?
@@zeamzoomnpop2931 . Could you clarify your inquiry?
The claim that "as time goes by more young people that are willing to work harder than you and for less money are entring the market" can be said both to self emplyed people and corprate people. Being self emplyed does not help you with that
I think it depends.
@@JoshuaFluke1 he caught you !
@@JoshuaFluke1 why? how?
Very real video topic. It’s just a matter of putting as much value into each day as possible, whether you’re working for yourself or someone else.
I worked 4 years in a corporate job. The worst 4 years of my life.
what are you doing now?
@@vertie2090 working the family business and some side hustles.
@Master Minder as every young person i wanted to go to the big city and make it on my own and soon i realized that this is a pipe dream. I felt ok my first year of corporate and then after i saw everything that is going on i became very miserable. You are basically a modern slave.
A very big flaw in this analysis is that it speaks about the future based on today's facts. But these facts will be different 20 years from now. The reason employees are thrown out after 45 is that we have surplus of young graduates. But ask yourself, will we have this surplus in 20 years from now. No, because we are not producing even half the children our parents produced.
But fewer children means there will be a much higher surplus because the demand will decrease and the supply won't because everyone is getting a college degree nowadays, as opposed to the past where it was the minority.
Companies don't treat you like a family member or friend in any but the most superficial way. You may be good friends with your boss, but if your boss's higher up decides you need to go to make way for a low paid, hungry college grad, you're done, no matter how long you've been there and how "valued" they've made you feel.
As an Italian and an European my impression is that the life standards of the us citizens are falling down.
I mean we study for free and have free Medicare. Well more than that in Italy after 64 yrs old we also receive a very small social retirement. Also in Italy 80% of families are the owners of their house. So what can I say , I am so sorry for the guys of 20/30 living in the us. For sure here in Italy we have less job opportunities but we don't have to face this kind of unbelievable problems and fears. I admire USA for so many reasons but you don't have anymore any kind of social state. It's just like the people are left alone , but for real . And that's not ok.
your observations are very astute.
America is fked cuz dumbasses keep voting in corrupt politicians because their feeling get hurt by the truth
To be honest, a large part of that is because we've been paying the Lion's share of the cost of protecting you militarily since the end of world war II. It is what it is.
@@SKBottom for sure I know that nowadays you are the actual 'roman empire' , some geopolitical experts call it the price of domination, meaning that the citizen of the dominating states paradoxically live someway less good in term of lifestyle than the dominated state.
I perfectly know thet USA control more than half of the world.. but one thing is the military power , I think that the discussion between people , simply people are on a different level of discussion. Just saying thisz just trying to affirm this paradoxical fact.
@@lova751 yes, I agree with your point. I think we're on the same page.
I've chose the route of being a civil servant. It may not be exciting but it pays well, benefits and such and I know I can work those kind of jobs at an old age because retirement is not guaranteed nowadays
Freshman year of college and just got my first job offer from a newly founded software company. I'm being wary and keeping tabs on everything, but I'm pretty excited too! Thanks for keeping everyone aware of company shenanigans.
This is exactly what I've been thinking about lately. I really needed this video, thank you.
Very nice point about agism. In my mid-forties, I took a position with a pay cut - but with union protections -specifically because I was concerned about agism going forward. :)
How am I only seeing this video now. I did exactly what you said Josh. I was employed at Huawei for a couple of years and after realising that I was making more money before joining the company( through freelance work). I pushed management for a raise, they kept pushing the carrot forward 😤 Until I wanted to resign, that’s when they decided that I will get a raise but it was too late. I was already at the point of no return
wish i woulda seen this 13 years ago when i got outta college. especially in oil and gas where people who have forgotten more knowledge than I'll ever have are tossed out like last weeks garbage....
The quote “sunny way right dad the working man is a sucka” in the movie A Bronx tale. Makes more and more sense to me as I get older
I got screwed in my early years as I graduated in 2008. McDonald's at that time wanted a bachelor's degree with 5 years of fast food experience and recruiters told me I was unemployable because I didn't have 5 years of experience in a niche because I went to get a degree in Electrical Engineering. So, yeah, I was screwed.
The recruiter is trying to mess with your head by saying nonsense such as that. Your engineering degree is valuable. The recruiter want to twist your reality by spewing out bs.
I hope you recover from that. Your engineering degree and skill worth more than that HR/Employeer life
@@jeremiahhasudungansihombin1882 during a negotiation one party wants to take advantage of another. The only thing is that he recruiter have a lot of experience manipulating and screwing with new hires through shaming and lying. They get paid based on commission. They have a lot of time to prepare for the mental mind battle.
@@jeremiahhasudungansihombin1882 I recovered and I now am an experience mobile app developer. However, I lost over a decade of my professional life. I never fully utilized my Engineering degree nor my masters which was also Engineering. My speciality was in optics and optical electronics with emphasis on solar energy. There is a lot whining and crying that companies want engineers, but when you show up on their doorstep looking to utilize that education, they tell you to pound sand. I am still jaded from the whole experience.
@@lirdulce5292 Yeahh thats really truee, Tecnology based company should really leave this bullshit PR/HR/Recruiter, and just built a Python App to process new recruit.
I am 63 y/o and this is good advice folks. Yes I am a boomer. Every company I worked for was bought out or failed since the late 80"s. The crazy feel good stuff started in the 90"s. Luckily I jumped ship on those companies before they were bought out. One company got me all when they flat out failed and everybody shown the door in about 2001. The friends still at the companies after they changed owners told me how much worse it had become. After awhile of this, I was a quiet quitter within the first month on the new job. Luckily I made it to retirement. There is no way this disgruntled boomer would put up with all that BS now. I would never make it past an interview.
Self employed in the software business is the same as contractor, as far as working for someone else & competing with the same lower cost labor. The mane difference is getting to pay corporate taxes instead of income tax.
"You're young and innecperienced but don't wory, some day you'll be old and irrelevent."
Hopefully one day I can become happily self employed, but for now I'm stuck grinding the so called corporate ladder. Not the worst thing after recently graduating college, but I hope that I can settle down somewhere quiet and laid back and work from home for the latter part of my working life. That's sounds like an ideal life for me. I hate city and urban lifestyles, but I have to endure it for now as I gain enough skills and financial resources to hopefully make a sustainable transition later on.
I'm on the same boat man, but I am still looking for inspiration on what to do after the corporate days are over
Sounds like Theodore Kaczynski was right.
THANK YOU! What a relief it is to hear someone else who shares the same thought process as mine. Great video 👍
there's a third path, its the same as a company man but the trick is, the work is why you keep doing it (because you enjoy it), with the end goal of setting yourself up for early retirement and doing whatever the F you want to do (such as going freelance and doing what you love still). I am transitioning to that right now, finally, after 25 years in IT :) All the dominos have fallen in place, its quite a great feeling. All the while loving the work.
Thank you so much for the heads up. You’re like a career brother/father figure especially for an immigrant like myself who doesn’t have family guidance. 🙏🏻
There is also the FIRE route. And of course the heroine/meth route, if thats your thing.
Josh you just scared the shit out of me. I am aspiring to get a wed dev job in the U.S , but based on what you just said, theres gonna be risk involved.
Your job is also a theft of time.
So true!!
RUclips has been putting this guy in my recommendations for the past few weeks!!!
Competing for higher corporate ladder, is what makes people sad, depressed and out of reality. I never understand why people start to backstab each other to get higher position? Yea, money are great. But what people want is power and to best their ego. They want to boss around, control people, look them like they are below them.
Get some work experience and start own business.
These are some of the most important and accurate advices ever! Pure gold!
Avoided college like the plague because I wasn't sure of what I wanted to do and feared the burden of debt. Done a lot of things in my life. I recently managed to land an IT position with no prior industry experience because I knew the keyboard shortcuts and told them I built/maintained my own PC as a gamer. Life gives you anecdotal moments that are critical you can convey well during an interview. W-2 Income and a schedule are a hell of a thing to have.
It's so true., i am 37 nd totally understand this path of ageism
The most off putting thing about the career I went into was when one of my new coworkers said "welcome to working the rest of your life" in the most depressing tone ever, a bit after that point I realized I do not like Civil Engineering. So now I am just wondering what to do.
Freelance. There are freelancer engineers.
Anyway we can get a 2021/2022 version of this video. There were parts of this video that were powerful and its one of the few videos i have saved under the fluke playlist and wondering what a second version of this video could be like. This message is rare and unseen in any of your videos. So it would be refreshing to see an updated version of this. It’s a smack to the face. Much needed
I'm both corporate employed and self employed. This way if I get let go I can still make money and take that severance check.
Hey man, I've been watching pretty much all your videos from the beginning of this year and I gotta say you made me motivated to learn & all you are saying about corporations is very true. Wish you all the best and kutgw!
I think you can have a middle ground here.
You can get some experience in a tech company. With the goal to learn as much as you can.
After let's say 5 to 10 years of experience you can switch to become a freelancer or build your own company in that field.
I'm not saying that this is something everybody can do but it will make your life easier becoming a freelancer because your not that student that just finished college but the guy who at least on paper knows some stuff and knows how the industry works.
Of course the older you get the harder the jump will be.
Also in both cases, you have to educate yourself all the time because everything and by everything I mean everything changes around you.
I started a new career in my 30s. I try not to let my choices in my 20s get me down - no way but forward, after all. I’m liking my life
This guy is making me more anxious.
you were gonna be anxious anyway.
Excellent video that doesn't sugarcoat or tell the viewer what they want to hear. Harsh but true. Spot on advice. Subbed.
I was a supervisor of pipeline and technology for a very large and well-known company supporting the infrastructure on a multi-million dollar franchise. After that, I went to be a TPM of a start-up, which I would have not gone to but the CEO lied about the actual funding (said we had 3-4 years work, it was more like 6 months). After losing that job I have been snubbed all over the bay area. "Senior managers" not a day over 30 scoffing at my experience. Focusing on what I didn't know, rather than inquiring about what I did know and challenges I overcame. Because I don't have a BS or Masters I couldn't possibly be qualified as a software engineer, even tho I had been. Because I don't at least have a Masters I can not manage, even tho I had been a manager. I don't have a PMP so there is no possible way I could be a project manager, even tho I also functioned as my department's project manager (as well as being the supe). Despite one of my A.S degrees being in computer networking (and have been the admin of a Linux server farm) I get snubbed on IT jobs because I don't remember random things like manual subnet masking, which I had done in college but it was never part of my professional responsibilities after college.
Today I am driving a semi-truck. It is kind of nice not to be sitting in an office, but it is depressing when I reflect on the money I used to make compared to what I make now. Listen to other drives say "I told my kid to go to college so they don't have to drive like me" and I am all "Shit I went to college, two degrees, published author, verifiable corporate experience, and I AM DRIVING"
On the side, I am trying to figure out my own gig. Most likely not software. Still working on a plan.
What I've figured out is that job interviews are always supposed to make you look like a moron, it's so they'll have an excuse to give you less money IF you'd get ''lucky enough to work for them''.
Basically playing hard to get, just highlight their weaknesses and tell them how you could help them in that area.
No other way.
Do a video on quiet hiring, when jobs quietly move you into a new role with no pay raise
well if I subtract the years I've lost to chronic depression, i'm fresh out of college!
Never work for a boss.
This should be required viewing for all young people entering the workforce
This is the video I needed while I was in school
Actually if you are going to worker route. All you have to do is get into the union if you are looking to work towards retirement you won't be at risk of being fired for things like ageism
This is 100% true. I’ve ran disparate impact analyses for workforce reductions to check for discrimination and the most consistently reduced groups are the older employees (statistically speaking)
Be me:
- 35 years old
- Making 20/h part time job as supply chain clerk
- Attending non-ranked MBA program
- Living at home
- Mom died in October
- No skillsets, no certifications
What's the point of living again? Man, I have literally been unconsciously suicidal for close to two decades. I know kids who are 22 and make way more than. I have never made more than 30k a year. I literally don't think its worth living anymore if you haven't made it by a certain age, as it gets harder to learn new things or harder to get into certain industries with no experience at such an old age in comparison to your peers. Code? Not everyone can code. A part of me thinks everyday about just saying fuck it and roping it. The only thing that is kind of keeping me here my dad and my dogs. I was born hard of hearing and have worn hearing aids all my life, which means I have had only heard maybe 50% of what people have said in my lifetime. All those classrooms, interviews, dates, etc add up when you can't hear well and suffer from anxiety of ever fitting in. Shit, its hard. I stumbled upon your channel Josh and you are wise in your years. I could be cut tomorrow as a contractor. I'm expendable. I was cut into a new contract gig in within 3 weeks into 2020 and then was unemployed all of that year and then my mom died in October. Makes you really question things. I used to do bodybuilding in my 20s and did a few shows. I bring that up because in bodybuilding, you notice that there is a trait among those who compete at a high level and are muscular. It seems they all suffered from a traumatic childhood, being scarred, and jumping into lifting iron to wash away the pain and chase the pump in the weight room. Most who do that will stumble into gear and eventually competition. So I did bodybuilding my mid to late 20s and didn't really focus on growing individually or having a career. I wasted my 20s and didn't even graduate college until 33. So far, this story, seen from afar from anybody, may question this persons life choices. Yeah, I would do the same if someone told me this story I guess. I don't think you're a race against time after you graduate college. You're in a race against time as soon as you're born but only appears to turn faster and faster as you age. Unfortunately, I will probably be a part of that class of citizens in the near future that won't have a job, no matter how hard my low IQ brain works, due to automation and a lackadaisical skillset. I think one of the last great rights that Americans will ever argue with, if the government doesn't absolve before then, is the right to ones life aka suicide. Remember that suicide booth scene from Futurama? That scene alone was way of ahead of its time, probably by 50 to 70 years. We already have a suicide booth machine, called Sarco (made in Europe). That shit is the future right there fam.
Do you want to live in a world where nobody finds value in you? Where minimal wage hasn't kept up with CPI? I swear, republicans by 2050 will hope minimum wage is still $7.50 lmao. Well I guess my post was long and winding, so I'll exit out and let you be Josh. Also, I saw that vid of that ex-gf of yours cheating on you. WTF was wrong with her lmao.
Hey how are you?
@@dantapp5925 Who are you? lmao