M18 Smoke Grenade vs Thermal (BAE UTM)
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- Опубликовано: 22 мар 2022
- This was to be the start of a project on thermal and smoke, however I soon discovered a lot of it is G-2 so I cannot finish working on it.
Element Training Complex in Holt, Florida is going to be my go to spot for a lot of future projects and tests. Check them out.
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This was to be the start of a project on thermal and smoke, however I soon discovered a lot of it is G-2 so I cannot finish working on it.
Element Training Complex in Holt, Florida is going to be my go to spot for a lot of future projects and tests. Check them out.
Potato here, what does G-2 mean ?
@@tipnoel he sunk your battleship
@@tipnoel Some kinda government military secret crap
Odd question but were you wearing an IHPS helmet or an ACH / ECH?
Sweet brahhhh, good work!
Another interesting thing is that fog is easily penetrated by night vision with IR whereas with a white light it poses much more of a photonic barrier. Found this out while hog hunting one humid night while there was a thick fog. Pretty much could not see at all through the fog with the white light but the night vision with ir was easily able to spot and shoot hogs through.
Thermals are nice because these days they’re generally sensitive enough to see through fog
@@Oxide_does_his_best oh yeah I was just saying in addition to thermal. Would be nice to have both or some kind of overlay setup.
@@Oxide_does_his_best oh yeah of course*
@@kimbellbush1857 ecoti for pvs 14 go brrr
@@aidenkirkaldy5394 or breach
This one is really interesting, we want more of stuff like this.
We nigga you talking french
@@Geezer2006 Nigga we speaking English
Give him money.
We the plebs have spoken!
he's just standing there menacingly
Really good stuff Ox, excited for more of this. Game designers and movie makers take note.
A little strange to me that there's a g-2 restriction since their is alot of videos showing to to easily exploit thermal optics but what ever. Still great to see some more recent testing
What u mean by exploiting?
@@AdamsS12345 exploit is to make usable intelligence out of material. you can have an image of something, to create an annotated graphic is to exploit it, creating a product.
What’s g-2?
@@cxsey8587 I think it's dicey because he's in the military, and recording how our military's smoke works on IR would basically be revealing intel to our enemies
Anecdote time: There was a time long ago when pot was illegal in Oregon. The cops in their infinite wisdom came to a realization that if they utilized IR optics on suspected structures that housed the facilities to grow marijuana plants they'd glow thermally. This set off an arms race including people covering every interior surface with aluminum foil and eventually space blankets which work very effectively at countering IR.
The foils for reflecting light to get more light coverage on your leaves to maximize energy production during light hours
Moves grow op to basement. Problem solved!
didnt that get ruled unconstitutional? i dont remember if it did or didnt but it got ruled on im pretty sure
@@Kalashnigoon foil is terrible at reflecting light. Mylar does the dual role of an insulator and a reflector.
always kind of expected this since smoke doesnt burn your skin off standing in it. but good to actually see this
Now I wonder what WP smoke will do to IRs, glow bright perhaps?
Spicy smoke
Neato. It's almost like the smoke isn't even there on the IR. Unfortunate that you won't be able to finish working on the project, but it happens. Excited for your future content!
I'm sorry but I've gotta do it, Ya boi at 0:28 has that Gondala body
Really good stuff, short sweet and to the point.
Glad to see the superior Black-Hot being used here lol. Interesting video.
Man joining the Army just made your videos better 🤣
Also something to note, WP can be used in support of friendlies as a screen. However, toxic gas and all that. So gotta throw it closer to the expected line of sight of enemy OPs.
WP for obscuring enemy positions and OPs. Or ON enemy OPs.
As long as you're targeting the observation equipment and not the personnel, lol.
WP isn’t very effective against thermals
@@Oxide_does_his_best True, the doctrine being to obscure in the visual spectrum with a quickly expanding cloud, damage or destroy any observation equipment close enough to it, and force the withdrawal of the observers.
It's been quite a while since I observed WP under thermals (with an LLDR), but the effect was similar to the M18 in this demonstration (hot near the shell, but as the cloud expanded and thinned, it became transparent).
That said, I would not envy the observer on an OP on the receiving end of a WP mission. (Per 3.09-30 Ch. 6-87, "threat observers" being listed as a target to be used against).
very informative, short and sweet. Just like you
Imagine being five foot two.......
Damn, TIL Arma thermals = more broken than I thought
Pretty sure arma thermals are just the game without textures and some things are given a "glow" to them.
G-2, can't have those kids or aid workers evade the drones. - Alphabets, probably
One thing to note is that different kinds of IR scopes will see smoke different. LWIR and SWIR are not equals when it comes to this.
Wow, this was a eyeopener for sure, it's like its not even there.
I don't understand why this works but it's still cool
Firefighters use thermals for search and rescue inside burning buildings for this reason. Great video.
This was my favorite move in rainbow six vegas 2. Throw a smoke, stand in it, thermals on, bang bang, "Aim for their leader!"
I'd like to see if someone could use a ground flare to disrupt the nvg or thermal scope. Or use say a 40mm flare launched toward a night vision device to conceal movement.
Nice
So MW2 It was right, thermal scope can see through the smoke.
*I see them all*
~ Tank gunner with a third-generation thermal scope
This is the kind of niche shit NCO’s and PL’s should know. I had no idea it couldn’t obscure the thermal image.
first first seconds of this gave me boogaloo boy vibes
Cool
G-2 = Intel so going to be stuff that has export restrictions etc.
What’s g-2?
We used to get m18s and see how long we could hold on to them
Didn’t know this
Next try glitter!
What do you think about the magazine ban in Washington?
Should have posted side by side footage
This goes hard.
ITAR ITAR ITAR ITAR ITAR ITAR IRAR
Only dorks obey ITAR.
We’re can you get the M18 smoke?
FlatRangeOperator already made a video showing this.
Lol it's ok Ben said he was going to copy my idea via phone call ..granted
The video shows once again that those air soft smoke grenades are trash compared to a m18.
I have always wondered if smoke would do a better job against thermal if the ambient temperature was only a few degrees off from 98 degrees.
What was the song you used in your Not Quite Balkans video?
Kinda disappointed nobody has mentioned how Glaz just got the real life nerf😂
G-2?
Those smokes really don‘t look much more advanced/efficient than the KNO3+Sugar stuff i made in my teen years. Is the composition of those(M18) known to public?
If the grenades can be purchased privately then yes most likely.
Sorta, it's a laundry list of pyrotechnic compounds depending on the smoke color. They use ether sulphur and potassium chlorite as fuel or sugar instead depending on how old the munition is. So your kinda right funny enough. Alot of the smoke is still made from the dye which also contributes to their toxicity.
M18s have been around since WW2, so it's not like they're new tech.
No source for this but iirc some newer smokes use white phosphorous.
Big if true
Helmet test against m111?
This may be an odd question but was Oxide wearing an IHPS helmet or an ACH / ECH?
it wasn't oxide but i think the guy wears a team wendy exfil ballistic
@@samuelcouvin7206 Ah, that would explain it. Was wondering since the NVG mount looked like the one found on IHPS helmets.
UTM or UTM X?
I already know what egs look like under thermals tho.
RAMIREZ! Get to the burgertown and use that M14 with thermal to see the russians through the smoke!
Nice vid
What thermal device
Cum
BAE UTM I believe
So BF3 had it right pre-patch
Oxide you should show a gear setup that a Wagner group pmc would have
Bbwarz atropia edition when?
Those are so tiny. I guess more meant for signaling or use indoors. Need M83.
Smoke out
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The more you know
What thermal imager did you use for this test?
BAE UTM (it's in the title)
How about a completely jet black smoke screen?
Like Thicc black smoke screen
hello
hold on, so videogames are right?
Hey I'd love an empty smoke granade to put on a shelf
They are cheap on gunbroker
@@ChevTecGroup thanx for the info....I gotta start going online.idno why but I always shred away from online stuff
@@ChevTecGroup are they used cans or do they have smoke in em.. I'd like a new one but even a spent one would look cool on the man cave
@@joshuataft5541 live one's shot up in price in the last few years but can still be found. Spent ones are much cheaper.
@@ChevTecGroup I'd like a few of each..I've taken gas station smoke bombs and made em bigger but nothing like the real deal..thanx for the info...now I can dream of some lol..
what about the smoke that tanks use. I would imagine those are somehow modified with additives to block thermals because that is crucial to survival as we have seen in Ukraine.
Some do, some dont.
Depends on how new or modernized they are.
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I’ ll never forgive all the people who complained that games that were realistic about smoke+ thermal were “broken” even when flares were a direct and effective counter to thermals.
So you know scince you’re doing smoke + thermals why not smoke vs flares for the next one.
Man's looking like a 2015 SyFy sci-fi show pilot episode protagonist lmao
Casually makes a video with a $9000 thermal monocular
LOL the dude looks like an operator except he is thin as a stick