Tons of people have asked me for the PIDs. I haven't had time to really fine tune it, but here's what's on the build right now: Betaflight 3.5.7: set p_pitch = 50 set i_pitch = 75 set d_pitch = 44 set f_pitch = 60 set p_roll = 46 set i_roll = 65 set d_roll = 40 set f_roll = 60 set p_yaw = 45 set i_yaw = 100 set d_yaw = 0 set f_yaw = 100
@@NocturnalScreamer yes I flew the same PIDs with HD. Some of the P terms can be increased if you want a sharper feel, but this is a good starting point for sure. Have fun!
@@thomatofpv3546 The 65 Pro 2 is a very different craft. I haven't had time to tune mine. The default tune was pretty good, but it could probably be improved.
I did the Shutterbug conversion on my old Mobula 7 and flew it today for the first time on 2S in open air... it's a complete different whoop! First thing i noticed how quiet is was, and then the fabulous feel of control it gained. First time i experienced the so called "locked in" feeling. With 75 mm quads weight is key, every gram you put on a original 75 mm quad will provoke jaw washouts. More weight equals more persistent jaw washouts. With the added weight of the Caddx EOS/VTX Happymodel upgrade it had become persistent jaw washouts, regardless of all the tuning tips i found on internet. With this conversion it's all gone. Very good job Mr. Shutterbug, thank you very much!
I watched this video 2 days ago and luckily there is a nearby hobby store to pick stuff up from, because you trully sparked my interest! I picked up the Betafpv 1103 11000kv motors, the 85x frame and a spare BT2.0 connector. Since I have the Meteor75 lite whoop from the Advanced Kit 2, I took out the 1-2 lite Siverware aio fc, canopy, and a01 cam and I made a 2xBT2.0 connector to plug 2x450mAh batteries in. ThennI proceeded by crossing my fingers, armed it and I must say that this is the wackiest thing I have ever done - i felt like an engineer. Flies extremely well! No jello whatsoever, range is pretty good but the power of this drone got me stunned. My main worries were if the 1-2s aio fc would handle 2x420mAh batteries and how would I tune the drone, since i basically have 0 knowledge on how to flash a Silverware version which has an option to adjust the settings via OSD commands (current version (LiteSilver) seems to be issue) but again - it flies extremely well! Thanks for the inspiration :) Stay Safe, Alex
Whoopmeister !!! That is a crazy good larger Whoop. I'm all indoor ( Canada, -30C ) right now, we have a small warehouse to fly in, just got my first ever Brushless Whoop ( Beta65X V2 ) My FC is rated for 10/15 A , looks like it would fit that frame. I just need the motors, frame and props to do this . Thanks for the great idea !!
EchobeeFPV for a warehouse you can take your beta65x and simply use new frame and use 40mm props. It freaking rip! Mine is a mobula7 and was so existed about the speed in the warehouse until I realize that my throttle was limit to 80%! Lol
I tried your tune and it's absolutely amazing. It actually flies better than any of my other 5 quads but a long stretch. Hoping you can do a quick video on how to tune. Would love to hear from you!
My 85x frame just arrived and transferred the 75X internals to it. Can't wait for the weather to clear up so I can fly this sucker full throttle. The frame does feel like it is indestructible.
NICE! I knew this would be a great setup, one that I've been wanting to do for over a year. This is the exact same build I'm doing, just waiting for my parts to get in!
Nice video Nate. I did the same with my 75x pretty much. Only difference was the original 75x board and the external Xm+ receiver. I used an all in one ur65 camera/vtx, so with just the cam/vtx and canopy change for anyone interested I got 62 grams. I had my receiver antennas on zipties/shrink which would add a little bit of weight too. I did 2 and a half packs on it before I smashed it into a light pole doing a matty flip lol. Performance in terms of punch was nearly as good as a stock mobula 7, flight time was similar, but the bit of extra weight made it more stable and it flew true in corners etc. Also not as floaty as the M7 when you pull off throttle and coming down, so much more predictable when you need to get under things, powerloops and split s exiting under tree branches or objects, etc. When I fix it up it'll be right alongside my m7 for fun, and if it seems to fly more true then I'll probably fly it all the time :) if you have a 75x, definitely convert it :)
Interesting. I did this conversion and mine weighs just 48g dry. All I did was swap the frame, change to the 2" props and found the lightest TPU canopy I could. That includes the EOS2 camera upgrade I did when I bought the 75x. It is amazing, isn't it? I have been flying it so hard and in tons of wind, and finally yesterday I was able to get it to wash out for the first time, whereas when it was stock 75x, it'd do it all the time.
I use the us65 canopy, on my beta fpv , I aio f4 fc , and the 12500 0802 on 65mm frame beta fpv frame. I’m getting very little washout I will post my vid today...... your 2” build here is super well thought out. Good job!
I drew attention to the curious use of a screw, apparently to balance the weight %) pay attention to the left side of the controller, starting at 8:40, is there an m6 stuck under the varnish?
I found a slightly different build with a bit more punch, its preaty much just a 85mm trashcan, all I did was swap to the UR85 frame so I could keep the 0803 15000kv 2s motors(3 screw's) then I installed a set of Betafpv 48mm props(from brushed 85mm) and the canopy from this video and that's it. Dry weight is 39.03g, this is my new go to 2inch. Mr Bug, your evolution continues, what's next?🤔💭🚁
@Mr ShutterBug : Waterproofing with plastic spray I suppose; do you spray over the bind and boot button or does this lead to any issues? Water about the USB port? Any tips regarding waterproofing would be greatly appreciated? Thank you!
Erik Extraordinaire me too! I have a RunCam mini split that I will put on a build like this when I have time. It will still be MUCH lighter and quieter than 85x or TinyLeader.
then what makes the 85 so heavy @@MrShutterBug ? should i not order the 85x? i kinda wana see the reviews and your comments on it once it comes out as im looking for something that replicates acro as well as possible compared o like a 3 or 5 inch drone and i want it to be fast outdoors. i could throttle manage to fly it indoors i guess too.
Kirill Obraztsov larger motors, better camera and antenna, 2-board stack, external Rx... all the things add weight but are nice features if that’s what you want. It’s crazy fast too! But the biggest weigh comes from batteries. It has a lot of thrust too, but I like flying in small spaces where I don’t need all that power. For small places, a low all up weight is key.
Finally built my shutterbug 85 ty again for sharing your design. Just waiting on lipos now. Got a few 450s coming, probably gonna order a few 350s also. So I can see which I like more. I tossed a cap on my pigtail, do u feel that’s just overkill? I know your looking to shed weight wherever possible. I’m at 41g dry but see that your only using 2 motor screws per motor so after I drop them I’m sure I’ll be around 39-40.
You could certainly make an awesome micro without the ducts, but I prefer it this way. Durability is the whole reason I started building 2S whoops in the first place. I like to fly fast in close proximity, and I got sick of breaking props. Also, the ducts really help with turtle mode.
That one seems to be really awesome! But i have a question about your ESC-Combo. I built a similar whoop around 1202.5 11500kv Motors from Flywoo. It came out at 50g dry. The size and even the props are the same as in your build. But on 2S they seem to draw over 30A (around 9A per Motor) at full throttle. I want to try your 1103 11000KV-Build at next, but I am a bit concerned if the 5A-ESCs you used will do the job for a long time. I know, its an old build, but maybe you could still tell if your build survived so far?
Your build should not draw 30A. Are you sure that's correct? Do you have a flight controller with a real current sensor and is it calibrated? I don't know exactly how much current mine pull because the BetaFPV 2S AIO does not have a current sensor, but I know that I have raced these drones on continuous 100% throttle and I have never burned up an ESC.
@@MrShutterBug Thank you for your answer. Im not really shure about the 30A after you pointed that out. The Board has a current sensor, but maybe it's not calibrated. I'll check that. My confusion gets even more, cause Betafpv recommends their 12a fc for These motors. But I'm gonna try your build at next. Using these smaller boards is a lot cheaper😊. Do you think there could be a significant difference in amp-draw between a 1103 and the 1202.5?
Wow, 7 minutes with a 2s 450 battery? Any chance you can upload a video showing that flight time? I see a lot of reviewers claiming long flight times but no video evidence to back it up.I am definitely going to follow your build combination on this! Well done!
It's long and slow and boring, but here's an example: ruclips.net/video/Et1SIZD_UpE/видео.html That flight was actually 550mAh and got around 7.5 minutes. I couldn't find the DVR clip for 450mAh.
@@MrShutterBug Thanks for that. When Chinese New Year is over I'll order these parts. BetaFPV may well release an "85 pro" which is just what you have done here.
The only on-board DVR I've tried is the HMDVR-S. It didn't look significantly better than my goggles DVR, except there was no RF breakup. My main complaint about that DVR was that it automatically split the clip every 3 minutes and dropped frames so that you could not stitch them back together smoothly. Also, it stretched the image to 16:9 so I had to scale it back to 4:3 in software. There's an example of the HMDVR-S with a Predator camera on my channel, if you're interested: ruclips.net/video/UOTUti4FSA4/видео.html
I use silicone conformal coating, but there are other popular products (like "Dry Drone") that I have not tried, so I don't know which is better. If you search for those things I'm sure you can find some tutorials. Conformal coating works but it is toxic and it can ruin connectors if it gets inside. www.amazon.com/dp/B008O9YIV6/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_liJBCbZW2FBYT
Hi Nate! Been having some fun with my Betafpv Pro 2 -- glad I bought it after seeing your videos! A new problem came up that I hope you can help with. I thought I'd try to put the led set on the back. Didn't really get them to work, but then I seemed to have some trouble with video going in and out. Took the led off to make sure that wasn't the issue. (I t wasn't) The problem with the video is that it goes on for about 1 1/2 seconds, then off 1 1/2 seconds, on 1 1/2 seconds off 1 1/2 seconds -- very consistent. Would you have any idea what the problem is? If it makes any difference, I have the no receiver version and I added my own XM plus. Did I fry something on the board or VTx itself?
It's hard to guess. It's possible the VTX failed, or there could be a connection problem somewhere. Do you have the version where the VTX is built into the FC? If no, do you have another VTX you can try? That might help narrow down the problem. Good luck!
I have the exact same problem with my Mobula7. Camera image goes on-off-on in regular time intervals, no matter what. I'm still searching for the cause.
Have you built one similar to this but with separate receiver? I have some open space I'd like to explore. Would the extra weight be overly detrimental to this type of build?
I do not have a uz85 but I have tried 1102s on this 85. They worked but I thought 1103 was better for 2” props. Getting the weight down is good though.
Nice setup. Will the 1103 fit the same frame that works with 802s. Trying to do a 75mm build with 1103 with the new mobula7 v3 frame. So please when u get time your valuable knowledge sir .
Great video, thank you! How loud is this quad though, compared to a 2s, 75mm whoop like a Beta75 Pro or Mobula7? Is it noticeably louder? Is it just as loud as a normal 2 inch quad? Most of the 2 inch props I've tried are quite loud with an annoying whining sound to them... Thanks!
Ben Travis it depends on how you fly. At low speed it is quieter than most of my 2S whoops because it doesn’t need high RPMs just to cruise around. On full throttle it makes more noise but still significantly quieter than the 85x.
Thank you for the Build tips! I have ordered all the parts you suggest. Just wondering if the gemfan 2040 hulkies are the better choice as they are a bit lighter and more efficient on these small 1103. But no idea how they feel in the air. Do you try these props on the shutterbug?
@@MrShutterBug oh good to know I still haven't had the pleasure of checking one out im trying everything I can to get something small other than my 5in
Hey My Shutterbug, I decided to build your Shutterbug 85 rig. Went with the U65 canopy and WTO7 cam. Have a vid on splitting the cam from vtx board? Thanks!
Unfortunately, no, I don't have a video about splitting the WT07. It's kind of messy. You have to cut the pins, remove the bits, and solder thin wires in place of them. If you are facing the back, then there are two pins in the lower right corner. Those carry 5v and ground. The pins on the left are one-to-one with the colored wires. When in doubt, use a multi-meter to test connectivity between pins (which is ground, etc...). Good luck!
I love this! but I noticed the video is rather old (I only recently got into the hobby!), do you still think it’s worth building for this form-factor, or have you “ evolved” this and suggest something else? thanks a lot!!
This is still one of my favorites. There are a lot more options now in terms of components, but if you build something with similar specs and try to keep it light weight, then it'll be a lot of fun! Great for flying in the backyard and around tight obstacles!
Hey Nate, are you using the v2 75x pids and settings? Ive made a trashcan version with the 75x motors and Avan props. Flies nice, 3min moderate acro on 2s 300 ( not charged to hv). Cheers
I see the "F4 1-2S AIO Brushless Flight Controller" is no longer available and the betafpv suggested replacement doesn't support 2S, is there a new recommended all in one that supports both?
Any 2S-capable AIO should work. Betafpv makes an F405 whoop FC that's 12A 2-4S. It's only a little heavier. Other companies including Happymodel, JHEMCU, and iFlight also make compatible AIOs.
Hello! I have a very similar build and flying it with BF 4.1 default tunes and rpm filter. It flies really well but here and there it sometimes wobbles. Does anyone have a good BF 4.1 tune?
Love my shutterbug 85x! Nate, quick question... which size 2s pack are you using in this video? I have a betafpv 350mah, but I was thinking of going to a 450mah for a little more flight time... thoughts?
The BetaFPV 350mAh battery isn't very good (see my review video). Back when I make this video I was probably using 300mAh 2S, but I frequently fly it with 450mAh 2S and that's another good option for more sustained power in large spaces. The GNB 450mAh 80C 2S is the best in class (amzn.to/2RHyveY) and the Crazepony is a cheaper rebrand of it (amzn.to/31mD6Hi). Cheers!
hey Mr Shutterbug! I just built the 85! saweet! 1st build in this class, mines flying like crap tho! have a PIDs starting point for the build? that'd be super cool!
Hi Mr Shutterbug, I recently set out to make a build similar to yours, but I opted to get the Z02 AIO Camera camera. When I got the parts though, I realized that the camera has pins to mount to the flight controller, and the F4 2S AIO Brushless Flight Controller doesn't have pin holes to mount like the higher Flight Controllers. Do you know a way around this?
han878 you’ll need wires to connect it to the AIO FC. If you don’t want to remove the pins you can solder to the opposite side of the vtx. It’s just tricky because it’s easy to get solder between those tiny pins.
I'm building pretty much the same thing but with the new 2s-4s board. same 1103 11000kv motors though. What is a good battery to use to get decent flight times as well as staying highly maneuverable? I'm shooting for 4-5min while keeping the best acro experience in mind.
I suggest flying it on 2S only. The KV is too high for 3S or 4S, and you want to keep the weight as low as possible. I use the 300mAh 80C 2S batteries by GNB and TBS (recently reviewed on my channel) for flying in my backyard and I use GNB 450mAh 2S for larger spaces. The 450 will give longer flight times, and it still flies great. Have fun!
I use silicone conformal coating. It's toxic and can ruin connectors if you're not careful. Watch some videos on it before attempting. People tell me that "dry drone" is another good option, but I haven't tried it for myself. Conformal Coating: www.amazon.com/dp/B008O9YIV6/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_7AJsCb7MZT691 Straps: www.amazon.com/dp/B001E1Y5O6/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_GBJsCbFE79ARM
Do you know, or think, that this FC can power the video system from the Trashcan? I plan to build this, but would prefer a better camera and 200mW output.
Hi Nate! My BetaFPV 1-2S AIO FC is dead and it's out of stock currently. As I noticed BetaFPV sells the Shutterbugs with the new full AIO FC which has the integarted VTX like the Meteor65 HD. My question is what happen if I'll set up the same PIDs on the new FC as you shared with us earlier? The flight characteristics will be different? Thank you!
The choose of FC shouldn’t affect the PIDs. However, the PIDs I posted before were for Betaflight 3.5.7. The newer FC may not have such an old BF target set up for it. I’ve been testing a BF 4.2 tune, so I’ll probably post that in the future.
Any updates on this shutterbug85 build parts wise? Or are these still the preferred components? Reason I ask is I really don’t fly my meteor75 much and I’m considering using as many parts as possible from that. On a side note would my extra BetaFpv 1102 13,500kv work for this build also? Or maybe the 13,500 or the 18,000 1102 for a 1s shutterbug85
Hi. The formula hasn't really changed, but there are more options now in terms of motors and canopies. If you try to use those 1102 motors on the 85X frame, you'll find that the motor holes don't line up. The betafpv 1102 motors use 3 screws (like whoop motors) but the 85X frame expect 4 screws per motor.
Sam Carmel I do not. Patrick Clarke (Project Mockingbird) and I spent some time trying to tune it for BF4.1 and it was never as good as the 3.5.7 tune. BF4.2 is great on some of my larger drones so it would be interesting to try again. Just haven’t taken the time. It would be mainly for educational purposes. The drone doesn’t really have any flight problems I would be aiming to fix.
Sam Carmel the firmware that comes on the FC is a random nightly build that calls itself 4.0.0 but it is really about the same features as 3.5.7. The PIDs on mine are pinned as a comment on this video.
cybervid07 not forgotten. I have different builds for different occasions. I will probably still fly 65mm in the House and 75mm for competitive racing. 👌
@@MrShutterBug Cool, thanks. My 75x is still in pieces waiting for a new ESC board to be installed. 65x is flying still but not the most fun for me indoors. Have the parts to build your favorite 1S indoor brushless and still need to put it together.
Do you have dynamic filters or anti gravity enabled in your set up? Also I want to add the new Beecore F4 V2 when avilable as it does 1-3S Can the 1103 handle 3S without burning out?
Dynamic filter yes. Amit-gravity is on a switch. I usually enable anti-gravity when flying outside but turn it off for indoor racing because it makes crashes worse.
I cant thx you enough. This is just what I have been looking for. Also are you sure you are not talking about the Zo2 VTX ? I think BetaFPV only uses the Zo2 now for the Pro builds. I have ordered most of the parts and can't wait till they get here..Is there any way I can get a copy of your CLI dump and maybe some set up and build tips?
The VTX came with my Beta65 Pro 2, but I'm not sure if I would recommend it now. I had one fail on me, and I've heard reports of other people having bad reception because the vtx wasn't quite outputting the correct frequency. The Z02 vtx would work, but it is kind of heavy. I wanted something light for this build. I haven't really done much tuning on this build yet. The footage you've seen was all recorded with stock Betaflight 4.0 settings (except for my rates, of course). I hope to do some more tuning soon, but haven't had much time lately.
I just maidened mine tonight w Gemfan 2035 props & think the Avans will be an improvement w their deeper pitch.. when they arrive. Running Beta 4 0 w dynamic filter and anti grav on. Is there anything else to enable settings wise ? Air mode maybe?
450 works fine and gives longer flights, but 300mah is a lot lighter and better for acro freestyle. The BetaFPV 350 batteries work too but they’re not the best.
I build one and it is awesome. But i use a crazybee and burn an esc. What other FC could be good ? I would have a buzzer but with BetaFPV 2S F4 AIO it seems impossible happy new year
Hi. I've had pretty good success with the BetaFPV 2S AIO, but you're right that it does not support a buzzer. I just use the ESC beacon. It's not loud but it's better than nothing. Cheers!
Alex Moil geprc makes a 12A board with buzzer support but that’s overkill for an 85mm 2S whoop. A 2S-only FC would be significantly lighter. Do they make something like that now?
HX100SE is better for acrobatics, but the ShutterBug85 can fly indoors (with practice) and can bash off anything and keep going. So the 85 is better for small gaps and taking chances. I like them both for different situations. Cheers.
Mr Shutterbug, im using the same Setup except the cam, but im getting the OSD Fading Out allways after 1 Minute of Flight. Are u using any Cap? Vtx/Cam im using T01 Combo.
@@MrShutterBug thx for your answere. I have no Clue, lots of Whoop and Micro Builds and never had the problem be4. ruclips.net/video/XVq8J5tIbD0/видео.html after 1 Minute it begins to flicker and then disappear.
Hi, I’ve been asking everywhere, but no one seems to know the answer.p to mu question... i figured i should ask you since i learned of both the 2s lite bayang silverware and shutterbug build from you. Anyway, i have the betafpv 2s lite bayang beta fc,p and would like to build a shutterbug 85 using it. However, i am not sure if i can add a vtx to the fc. Will it have smart audio? (i’m guessing not) which vtx is best for a shutterbug build with the bayang fc? Also, if i add a vtx, can i still add an external rx? I’ve been searching for help with my fc for more than a month now, and I don’t know where else to turn. Haha
I have the Lite 2S bayang FC but I haven’t done much with it. I think you can connect an external SBUS receiver using the Rx pad if you want a different receiver. I don’t see a Tx pad for smart audio though, so you will probably need a vtx with a button to change channels. Interestingly, the FrSky version of the FC does have a Tx pad for SA but no RX pad. Weird. Good luck.
I figured that if i use a vtx, it should have a button to change power. But given the number of pads, how do i use both an external rx and vtx? They share the same gnd and 5v pads? Sorry for the noob questions, this would be my first build if ever.
@@franza.d.morales8529 You can fork the 5V and ground pads to power both. It's tricky to solder two wires to the same tiny pad on the FC, so I suggest soldering a single short wire to the FC, and then solder the two other wires to it with a bit of heat shrink (so the wire makes a 'Y'). Does that make sense? Good luck!
Yeah, it's cool, but I prefer whoop frames. I like to fly fast in close proximity to trees and structures. I started building 2s "whoops" because I got sick of fixing broken props and cameras. For my needs, this is a more enjoyable overall experience.
kwadronaut a lower kv would probably be good too. I haven’t had time to experiment that much. This is just my hobby. I chose these motors because they plug in so easily and people already have them (and I had extras). Cheers!
Tons of people have asked me for the PIDs. I haven't had time to really fine tune it, but here's what's on the build right now:
Betaflight 3.5.7:
set p_pitch = 50
set i_pitch = 75
set d_pitch = 44
set f_pitch = 60
set p_roll = 46
set i_roll = 65
set d_roll = 40
set f_roll = 60
set p_yaw = 45
set i_yaw = 100
set d_yaw = 0
set f_yaw = 100
Thanks for the PID's, are these good for HD version too?
@@NocturnalScreamer yes I flew the same PIDs with HD. Some of the P terms can be increased if you want a sharper feel, but this is a good starting point for sure. Have fun!
@@MrShutterBug Thank You!!
Do you think these will work on the Beta65 pro 2 as well? I have been dying to try out 4.0 on mine but I don't want to burn the motors
@@thomatofpv3546 The 65 Pro 2 is a very different craft. I haven't had time to tune mine. The default tune was pretty good, but it could probably be improved.
I did the Shutterbug conversion on my old Mobula 7 and flew it today for the first time on 2S in open air... it's a complete different whoop!
First thing i noticed how quiet is was, and then the fabulous feel of control it gained. First time i experienced the so called "locked in" feeling.
With 75 mm quads weight is key, every gram you put on a original 75 mm quad will provoke jaw washouts. More weight equals more persistent jaw washouts.
With the added weight of the Caddx EOS/VTX Happymodel upgrade it had become persistent jaw washouts, regardless of all the tuning tips i found on internet.
With this conversion it's all gone. Very good job Mr. Shutterbug, thank you very much!
Did you use the standard motors or did you switch them to the 1103 from this video?
I watched this video 2 days ago and luckily there is a nearby hobby store to pick stuff up from, because you trully sparked my interest! I picked up the Betafpv 1103 11000kv motors, the 85x frame and a spare BT2.0 connector.
Since I have the Meteor75 lite whoop from the Advanced Kit 2, I took out the 1-2 lite Siverware aio fc, canopy, and a01 cam and I made a 2xBT2.0 connector to plug 2x450mAh batteries in. ThennI proceeded by crossing my fingers, armed it and I must say that this is the wackiest thing I have ever done - i felt like an engineer.
Flies extremely well! No jello whatsoever, range is pretty good but the power of this drone got me stunned.
My main worries were if the 1-2s aio fc would handle 2x420mAh batteries and how would I tune the drone, since i basically have 0 knowledge on how to flash a Silverware version which has an option to adjust the settings via OSD commands (current version (LiteSilver) seems to be issue) but again - it flies extremely well!
Thanks for the inspiration :)
Stay Safe,
Alex
We are grateful for your immense contribution to this sport. The Shutterbug85 is truly epic. Thanks to you and BetaFPV!
Best whoop builder and pilot out there! Thank you for sharing.
I pulled the trigger. Bought a couple 85x frames and 2" props, and plan to convert my 75x to mostly this. Excited!
Whoopmeister !!! That is a crazy good larger Whoop. I'm all indoor ( Canada, -30C ) right now, we have a small warehouse to fly in, just got my first ever Brushless Whoop ( Beta65X V2 ) My FC is rated for 10/15 A , looks like it would fit that frame. I just need the motors, frame and props to do this . Thanks for the great idea !!
EchobeeFPV for a warehouse you can take your beta65x and simply use new frame and use 40mm props. It freaking rip! Mine is a mobula7 and was so existed about the speed in the warehouse until I realize that my throttle was limit to 80%! Lol
I am all indoor in New England (U.S.). it was -16 last night... I LOVE Power Whoops!!
I tried your tune and it's absolutely amazing. It actually flies better than any of my other 5 quads but a long stretch. Hoping you can do a quick video on how to tune. Would love to hear from you!
Hey Nate! Great to check out this video and your new build! 👍
Love 85mm whoops! I just converted my mob7 to an 85mm and it's fantastic 👍
My 85x frame just arrived and transferred the 75X internals to it. Can't wait for the weather to clear up so I can fly this sucker full throttle.
The frame does feel like it is indestructible.
NICE! I knew this would be a great setup, one that I've been wanting to do for over a year. This is the exact same build I'm doing, just waiting for my parts to get in!
That thing does fly acro quite well... impressive!
Nice build and mods. Very tempting!
Nice video Nate. I did the same with my 75x pretty much. Only difference was the original 75x board and the external Xm+ receiver. I used an all in one ur65 camera/vtx, so with just the cam/vtx and canopy change for anyone interested I got 62 grams. I had my receiver antennas on zipties/shrink which would add a little bit of weight too. I did 2 and a half packs on it before I smashed it into a light pole doing a matty flip lol. Performance in terms of punch was nearly as good as a stock mobula 7, flight time was similar, but the bit of extra weight made it more stable and it flew true in corners etc. Also not as floaty as the M7 when you pull off throttle and coming down, so much more predictable when you need to get under things, powerloops and split s exiting under tree branches or objects, etc. When I fix it up it'll be right alongside my m7 for fun, and if it seems to fly more true then I'll probably fly it all the time :) if you have a 75x, definitely convert it :)
Interesting. I did this conversion and mine weighs just 48g dry. All I did was swap the frame, change to the 2" props and found the lightest TPU canopy I could. That includes the EOS2 camera upgrade I did when I bought the 75x. It is amazing, isn't it? I have been flying it so hard and in tons of wind, and finally yesterday I was able to get it to wash out for the first time, whereas when it was stock 75x, it'd do it all the time.
I use the us65 canopy, on my beta fpv , I aio f4 fc , and the 12500 0802 on 65mm frame beta fpv frame. I’m getting very little washout I will post my vid today...... your 2” build here is super well thought out. Good job!
Definitely my next build! Thank you for your constant innovation!
Nice flying man, an that's definitely a sweet little build
Love the ability to fly so close to stuff and awesome video
Love the build! Will defiantly be trying out this setup when I get my 75x!
You deserve the sub!
Happy flying!
I drew attention to the curious use of a screw, apparently to balance the weight %) pay attention to the left side of the controller, starting at 8:40, is there an m6 stuck under the varnish?
I found a slightly different build with a bit more punch, its preaty much just a 85mm trashcan, all I did was swap to the UR85 frame so I could keep the 0803 15000kv 2s motors(3 screw's) then I installed a set of Betafpv 48mm props(from brushed 85mm) and the canopy from this video and that's it. Dry weight is 39.03g, this is my new go to 2inch.
Mr Bug, your evolution continues, what's next?🤔💭🚁
@Mr ShutterBug : Waterproofing with plastic spray I suppose; do you spray over the bind and boot button or does this lead to any issues? Water about the USB port? Any tips regarding waterproofing would be greatly appreciated? Thank you!
Super smooth pilot, amazing style. Great build also 👍👍
Good info and great flying!! Can’t wait to try that out!
thanks. i'd like to see flight performance with an hd setup, such as caddx turtle or some split cam.
Erik Extraordinaire me too! I have a RunCam mini split that I will put on a build like this when I have time. It will still be MUCH lighter and quieter than 85x or TinyLeader.
then what makes the 85 so heavy @@MrShutterBug ? should i not order the 85x? i kinda wana see the reviews and your comments on it once it comes out as im looking for something that replicates acro as well as possible compared o like a 3 or 5 inch drone and i want it to be fast outdoors. i could throttle manage to fly it indoors i guess too.
Kirill Obraztsov larger motors, better camera and antenna, 2-board stack, external Rx... all the things add weight but are nice features if that’s what you want. It’s crazy fast too! But the biggest weigh comes from batteries. It has a lot of thrust too, but I like flying in small spaces where I don’t need all that power. For small places, a low all up weight is key.
Finally built my shutterbug 85 ty again for sharing your design. Just waiting on lipos now. Got a few 450s coming, probably gonna order a few 350s also. So I can see which I like more. I tossed a cap on my pigtail, do u feel that’s just overkill? I know your looking to shed weight wherever possible. I’m at 41g dry but see that your only using 2 motor screws per motor so after I drop them I’m sure I’ll be around 39-40.
that looks amazing! homebrew super whoop ftw!
Looks good , I think this as good as it gets with without taking off the ducts all together.
I'm tempted to try it out.
You could certainly make an awesome micro without the ducts, but I prefer it this way. Durability is the whole reason I started building 2S whoops in the first place. I like to fly fast in close proximity, and I got sick of breaking props. Also, the ducts really help with turtle mode.
Nice Flying! It was a great day racing at NWMHE!
Yeah, it was super fun! I'm about to post a video about that too. :-)
That one seems to be really awesome! But i have a question about your ESC-Combo. I built a similar whoop around 1202.5 11500kv Motors from Flywoo. It came out at 50g dry. The size and even the props are the same as in your build. But on 2S they seem to draw over 30A (around 9A per Motor) at full throttle. I want to try your 1103 11000KV-Build at next, but I am a bit concerned if the 5A-ESCs you used will do the job for a long time. I know, its an old build, but maybe you could still tell if your build survived so far?
Your build should not draw 30A. Are you sure that's correct? Do you have a flight controller with a real current sensor and is it calibrated? I don't know exactly how much current mine pull because the BetaFPV 2S AIO does not have a current sensor, but I know that I have raced these drones on continuous 100% throttle and I have never burned up an ESC.
@@MrShutterBug Thank you for your answer. Im not really shure about the 30A after you pointed that out. The Board has a current sensor, but maybe it's not calibrated. I'll check that. My confusion gets even more, cause Betafpv recommends their 12a fc for These motors. But I'm gonna try your build at next. Using these smaller boards is a lot cheaper😊.
Do you think there could be a significant difference in amp-draw between a 1103 and the 1202.5?
Did you have to mod the motor mount holes? I thought the Beta85x frame was 9mm mounting pattern, not 8.5?
I did not modify the frame.
Even on 1s 1202.5 11600kv this is super snappy @44 grams ~ indoors. 2.5 to 3 min on 300mah 1s HV. Awesome!
Great job, it's great on the fly, I decided to build a similar one, Would you please show the PID you are flying on?
Myszor M I’ll probably do more tuning later, but for now this is stock Betaflight 4.0 PIDs.
Thanks for the answer.
Can you tell me which exact version you used?
Awesome build! Looks very cool! I want to build one like that. I want to find a medium between whoops and babyhawk.
Wow, 7 minutes with a 2s 450 battery? Any chance you can upload a video showing that flight time? I see a lot of reviewers claiming long flight times but no video evidence to back it up.I am definitely going to follow your build combination on this! Well done!
It's long and slow and boring, but here's an example: ruclips.net/video/Et1SIZD_UpE/видео.html
That flight was actually 550mAh and got around 7.5 minutes. I couldn't find the DVR clip for 450mAh.
@@MrShutterBug Thanks for that. When Chinese New Year is over I'll order these parts.
BetaFPV may well release an "85 pro" which is just what you have done here.
Tech2C I told them a long time ago. It’s so much better than 85X.
Have you thought about adding a dvr module to this? I’d be interested in seeing the results as a different route than going full HD.
The only on-board DVR I've tried is the HMDVR-S. It didn't look significantly better than my goggles DVR, except there was no RF breakup. My main complaint about that DVR was that it automatically split the clip every 3 minutes and dropped frames so that you could not stitch them back together smoothly. Also, it stretched the image to 16:9 so I had to scale it back to 4:3 in software. There's an example of the HMDVR-S with a Predator camera on my channel, if you're interested: ruclips.net/video/UOTUti4FSA4/видео.html
Can you make one small video, how do You waterproff the flight controllers?! What product you use. Thanks Shutterbug
I use silicone conformal coating, but there are other popular products (like "Dry Drone") that I have not tried, so I don't know which is better. If you search for those things I'm sure you can find some tutorials. Conformal coating works but it is toxic and it can ruin connectors if it gets inside.
www.amazon.com/dp/B008O9YIV6/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_liJBCbZW2FBYT
Hi Nate! Been having some fun with my Betafpv Pro 2 -- glad I bought it after seeing your videos!
A new problem came up that I hope you can help with. I thought I'd try to put the led set on the back. Didn't really get them to work, but then I seemed to have some trouble with video going in and out. Took the led off to make sure that wasn't the issue. (I t wasn't) The problem with the video is that it goes on for about 1 1/2 seconds, then off 1 1/2 seconds, on 1 1/2 seconds off 1 1/2 seconds -- very consistent. Would you have any idea what the problem is? If it makes any difference, I have the no receiver version and I added my own XM plus. Did I fry something on the board or VTx itself?
It's hard to guess. It's possible the VTX failed, or there could be a connection problem somewhere. Do you have the version where the VTX is built into the FC? If no, do you have another VTX you can try? That might help narrow down the problem. Good luck!
I have the exact same problem with my Mobula7. Camera image goes on-off-on in regular time intervals, no matter what. I'm still searching for the cause.
Have you built one similar to this but with separate receiver? I have some open space I'd like to explore. Would the extra weight be overly detrimental to this type of build?
WELL, definitely impressed after watching you pull out of an inverted dive! Must have..
Nate, are you planning on testing out the eachine uz85? It's pretty similar to this except 1102 10000kv motors and a few grams lighter.
I do not have a uz85 but I have tried 1102s on this 85. They worked but I thought 1103 was better for 2” props. Getting the weight down is good though.
@@MrShutterBug thanks, I might give it a try as the kit is just 65€. If I happen to hate it then I can still install 1103 motors
This is really cool...keep experimenting
thing rips! love the flying too!
Nice setup. Will the 1103 fit the same frame that works with 802s. Trying to do a 75mm build with 1103 with the new mobula7 v3 frame. So please when u get time your valuable knowledge sir .
Would love to see a vid on how to do that waterproofing.
Thank you very mich. i have a plan to buy a tiny whoop and this is useful for me. 🙏🙏❤️👍🥃
Great video, thank you! How loud is this quad though, compared to a 2s, 75mm whoop like a Beta75 Pro or Mobula7? Is it noticeably louder? Is it just as loud as a normal 2 inch quad? Most of the 2 inch props I've tried are quite loud with an annoying whining sound to them... Thanks!
Ben Travis it depends on how you fly. At low speed it is quieter than most of my 2S whoops because it doesn’t need high RPMs just to cruise around. On full throttle it makes more noise but still significantly quieter than the 85x.
Thank you for the Build tips! I have ordered all the parts you suggest. Just wondering if the gemfan 2040 hulkies are the better choice as they are a bit lighter and more efficient on these small 1103. But no idea how they feel in the air. Do you try these props on the shutterbug?
Cool. I think you’ll like it! I still prefer the 4-blade Avan props. They are super durable and relatively quiet.
And what about trying 4s with a throttle curve to give better resolution for better control in tight spaces and still have to 4s power when needed
4S batteries are too heavy to fly well on a frame like this. Lighter is better in my opinion.
@@MrShutterBug oh good to know I still haven't had the pleasure of checking one out im trying everything I can to get something small other than my 5in
AMAZING!!! Nice work. I wish I had those skills...
Nate -- what you be your favorite currently available camera for this build?
I recommend the Caddx Ant or Ant Lite. Great picture for the price and weight! 👍
I have the same stuff on my 75x frame , 1103 11000kv aio 2s , eos cam ,tbs props and 2s 300 hv TBS , its just a best whoop i have tested!
Hey My Shutterbug, I decided to build your Shutterbug 85 rig. Went with the U65 canopy and WTO7 cam. Have a vid on splitting the cam from vtx board? Thanks!
Unfortunately, no, I don't have a video about splitting the WT07. It's kind of messy. You have to cut the pins, remove the bits, and solder thin wires in place of them. If you are facing the back, then there are two pins in the lower right corner. Those carry 5v and ground. The pins on the left are one-to-one with the colored wires. When in doubt, use a multi-meter to test connectivity between pins (which is ground, etc...). Good luck!
Been eyeing this for a while and finally decided to go ahead with the build. Was curious if you have done any 95mm builds. :)
I love this! but I noticed the video is rather old (I only recently got into the hobby!), do you still think it’s worth building for this form-factor, or have you “ evolved” this and suggest something else? thanks a lot!!
This is still one of my favorites. There are a lot more options now in terms of components, but if you build something with similar specs and try to keep it light weight, then it'll be a lot of fun! Great for flying in the backyard and around tight obstacles!
@@MrShutterBug thank you very much! 😊👍 and thanks for coming up with this “class” 😊
Hey Nate, are you using the v2 75x pids and settings? Ive made a trashcan version with the 75x motors and Avan props. Flies nice, 3min moderate acro on 2s 300 ( not charged to hv). Cheers
I haven’t had time to do any tuning yet. These are BF 4.0 stock PIDs.
That's awesome!! Nice work
Man I think this is the hottest thing going right now in the Micro Drone World!
WOW amazing flyer...TFS
I see the "F4 1-2S AIO Brushless Flight Controller" is no longer available and the betafpv suggested replacement doesn't support 2S, is there a new recommended all in one that supports both?
Any 2S-capable AIO should work. Betafpv makes an F405 whoop FC that's 12A 2-4S. It's only a little heavier. Other companies including Happymodel, JHEMCU, and iFlight also make compatible AIOs.
Hello! I have a very similar build and flying it with BF 4.1 default tunes and rpm filter. It flies really well but here and there it sometimes wobbles. Does anyone have a good BF 4.1 tune?
Love my shutterbug 85x! Nate, quick question... which size 2s pack are you using in this video? I have a betafpv 350mah, but I was thinking of going to a 450mah for a little more flight time... thoughts?
The BetaFPV 350mAh battery isn't very good (see my review video). Back when I make this video I was probably using 300mAh 2S, but I frequently fly it with 450mAh 2S and that's another good option for more sustained power in large spaces. The GNB 450mAh 80C 2S is the best in class (amzn.to/2RHyveY) and the Crazepony is a cheaper rebrand of it (amzn.to/31mD6Hi). Cheers!
@@MrShutterBug You rock!! Thanks Nate, I greatly appreciate your information!! :)
hey Mr Shutterbug! I just built the 85! saweet! 1st build in this class, mines flying like crap tho! have a PIDs starting point for the build? that'd be super cool!
Mine has the version of Betaflight 4.0 that came on the 2S AIO board. The PIDs are in a pinned comment. Good luck.
Hi Mr Shutterbug, I recently set out to make a build similar to yours, but I opted to get the Z02 AIO Camera camera. When I got the parts though, I realized that the camera has pins to mount to the flight controller, and the F4 2S AIO Brushless Flight Controller
doesn't have pin holes to mount like the higher Flight Controllers. Do you know a way around this?
han878 you’ll need wires to connect it to the AIO FC. If you don’t want to remove the pins you can solder to the opposite side of the vtx. It’s just tricky because it’s easy to get solder between those tiny pins.
@@MrShutterBug Thank you for the quick reply! I will try your solution.
Vert Nice, just one made! Very good. Thanks a lot. With 2 jst, 20awg and 300mah, 4 min
Which little cam i use with a separated vtx ? I need something for ur65 canopy. Can you help me please ?
I was thinking of doing this build but I have the 1103 8000kv would it still be great with those motors?
It would work but it would not have as much punch on 2S.
Ok thank you I should be getting my camera and canopy in today so I'll be testing it out 😁
I'm building pretty much the same thing but with the new 2s-4s board. same 1103 11000kv motors though. What is a good battery to use to get decent flight times as well as staying highly maneuverable? I'm shooting for 4-5min while keeping the best acro experience in mind.
I suggest flying it on 2S only. The KV is too high for 3S or 4S, and you want to keep the weight as low as possible. I use the 300mAh 80C 2S batteries by GNB and TBS (recently reviewed on my channel) for flying in my backyard and I use GNB 450mAh 2S for larger spaces. The 450 will give longer flight times, and it still flies great. Have fun!
@@MrShutterBug Thank you for the reply! I am ordering comes gnb 450 2s right now!
Any chance BetaFPV will release this as a complete build?
What did you water proof with and what battery strap do you use? Last, what receiver would you recommend long-ish range in a 75 or this build?
I use silicone conformal coating. It's toxic and can ruin connectors if you're not careful. Watch some videos on it before attempting. People tell me that "dry drone" is another good option, but I haven't tried it for myself.
Conformal Coating: www.amazon.com/dp/B008O9YIV6/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_7AJsCb7MZT691
Straps: www.amazon.com/dp/B001E1Y5O6/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_GBJsCbFE79ARM
Do you know, or think, that this FC can power the video system from the Trashcan? I plan to build this, but would prefer a better camera and 200mW output.
Yeah, I don't think you would have any trouble powering the EOS2 cam and a 200mW vtx from the AIO FC.
Hi, this build is amazing! Do you have a brushed possibly for fs rx cheap one? Thx
No, I have not tried making a brushed version. Does anybody even make a 2S brushed FC?
@@MrShutterBug even not 2s brushed quad
Hi Nate! My BetaFPV 1-2S AIO FC is dead and it's out of stock currently. As I noticed BetaFPV sells the Shutterbugs with the new full AIO FC which has the integarted VTX like the Meteor65 HD. My question is what happen if I'll set up the same PIDs on the new FC as you shared with us earlier? The flight characteristics will be different? Thank you!
The choose of FC shouldn’t affect the PIDs. However, the PIDs I posted before were for Betaflight 3.5.7. The newer FC may not have such an old BF target set up for it. I’ve been testing a BF 4.2 tune, so I’ll probably post that in the future.
@@MrShutterBug I think a lot of people would be happy about that. Thank you!
Definitely going to try this!
awesome build. where is that super mario mini golf at?
Notta Quad Virtual Sports near Seattle.
Any updates on this shutterbug85 build parts wise? Or are these still the preferred components? Reason I ask is I really don’t fly my meteor75 much and I’m considering using as many parts as possible from that. On a side note would my extra BetaFpv 1102 13,500kv work for this build also? Or maybe the 13,500 or the 18,000 1102 for a 1s shutterbug85
Hi. The formula hasn't really changed, but there are more options now in terms of motors and canopies. If you try to use those 1102 motors on the 85X frame, you'll find that the motor holes don't line up. The betafpv 1102 motors use 3 screws (like whoop motors) but the 85X frame expect 4 screws per motor.
I built this whoop because of this video and love it. Can I use 2S HV batteries? What do you think about a 350mah 7.6V GNB?
Cool! Have fun with it! HV should be fine. I don’t have the GNB 350, but it’s a good size and weight.
Got an updated tune for this? Possibly with 4.2? :D
Sam Carmel I do not. Patrick Clarke (Project Mockingbird) and I spent some time trying to tune it for BF4.1 and it was never as good as the 3.5.7 tune. BF4.2 is great on some of my larger drones so it would be interesting to try again. Just haven’t taken the time. It would be mainly for educational purposes. The drone doesn’t really have any flight problems I would be aiming to fix.
Mr ShutterBug for sure, thanks for the info. I’m assuming you’re running the stock tune then that comes on the board?
Sam Carmel the firmware that comes on the FC is a random nightly build that calls itself 4.0.0 but it is really about the same features as 3.5.7. The PIDs on mine are pinned as a comment on this video.
@@MrShutterBug saw that, I'm gonna try that out. Just was curious if you had a more recent tune was all. Glad this one is still workin!
is there any quads that is rtf that comes close to this build? Thanks.
BetaFPV makes one now. It has a different canopy but is otherwise identical:
From BetaFPV: bit.ly/2YukEPS
Amazon USA: amzn.to/2T73oKJ
Nice build! The 75's already forgotten and old news... 😂
cybervid07 not forgotten. I have different builds for different occasions. I will probably still fly 65mm in the House and 75mm for competitive racing. 👌
@@MrShutterBug Cool, thanks. My 75x is still in pieces waiting for a new ESC board to be installed. 65x is flying still but not the most fun for me indoors. Have the parts to build your favorite 1S indoor brushless and still need to put it together.
Very cool, light weight is the way to go. Your disc loading is so low, I think that's why theres no wash out even with the ducts.
Any recommended VTX options with selectable higher output? Would like at least 100mW.
Any vtx will work, but I don’t have any specific recommendation. 25mW is enough for me.
Do you have dynamic filters or anti gravity enabled
in your set up? Also I want to add the new Beecore F4 V2 when avilable as it does 1-3S Can the 1103 handle 3S without burning out?
Dynamic filter yes. Amit-gravity is on a switch. I usually enable anti-gravity when flying outside but turn it off for indoor racing because it makes crashes worse.
I cant thx you enough. This is just what I have been looking for. Also are you sure you are not talking about the Zo2 VTX ? I think BetaFPV only uses the Zo2 now for the Pro builds. I have ordered most of the parts and can't wait till they get here..Is there any way I can get a copy of your CLI dump and maybe some set up and build tips?
The VTX came with my Beta65 Pro 2, but I'm not sure if I would recommend it now. I had one fail on me, and I've heard reports of other people having bad reception because the vtx wasn't quite outputting the correct frequency. The Z02 vtx would work, but it is kind of heavy. I wanted something light for this build.
I haven't really done much tuning on this build yet. The footage you've seen was all recorded with stock Betaflight 4.0 settings (except for my rates, of course). I hope to do some more tuning soon, but haven't had much time lately.
I just maidened mine tonight w Gemfan 2035 props & think the Avans will be an improvement w their deeper pitch.. when they arrive.
Running Beta 4 0 w dynamic filter and anti grav on. Is there anything else to enable settings wise ? Air mode maybe?
Are 450s 2s ok to use with this setup or would 350s be a better choice for general flying with some acro ?
450 works fine and gives longer flights, but 300mah is a lot lighter and better for acro freestyle. The BetaFPV 350 batteries work too but they’re not the best.
Might grab some BETA 350s. Ive a couple of 450s to use but theyre a diff shape. Will make a strap. Love the videos! @@MrShutterBug
Any idea when they'll start selling the 8000kV version of these motors?
I don’t know. It would make sense for them to make a 3S 1103 motor but they haven’t announced any dates.
I build one and it is awesome. But i use a crazybee and burn an esc. What other FC could be good ? I would have a buzzer but with BetaFPV 2S F4 AIO it seems impossible
happy new year
Hi. I've had pretty good success with the BetaFPV 2S AIO, but you're right that it does not support a buzzer. I just use the ESC beacon. It's not loud but it's better than nothing. Cheers!
@@MrShutterBug i will try with a geprc, perhaps... Thanks
Alex Moil geprc makes a 12A board with buzzer support but that’s overkill for an 85mm 2S whoop. A 2S-only FC would be significantly lighter. Do they make something like that now?
@@MrShutterBug no you are right, it is the 12a. Will find 5a..
try to find something else but nothing looks like 5a with buzzer. In the diagram of BetaFPV 2S AIO, there is a buzz- pad... strange !
Still the best power whoop formula in 2023! 85mm Frame, 1103 2S directly soldered to the fc, 2S 300mah HV high C-Rate Lipo
u should review the Hx100 3s from betafpv
hello, what is the PID? stock? what is your setting on betaflight? thanks
Betaflight 4.0 stock PIDs.
Awesome build are you using the stock PIDS?
Yes. Stock betaflight 4.0.
Cool thank you dude I love your vids very informative keep up the great work!
Your modded HX100SE looked way more agile and fun. How does they compare?
HX100SE is better for acrobatics, but the ShutterBug85 can fly indoors (with practice) and can bash off anything and keep going. So the 85 is better for small gaps and taking chances. I like them both for different situations. Cheers.
Mr Shutterbug, im using the same Setup except the cam, but im getting the OSD Fading Out allways after 1 Minute of Flight. Are u using any Cap? Vtx/Cam im using T01 Combo.
siXsiXOneFPV no extra capacitors in there. Not sure why the OSD would go out.
@@MrShutterBug thx for your answere. I have no Clue, lots of Whoop and Micro Builds and never had the problem be4. ruclips.net/video/XVq8J5tIbD0/видео.html after 1 Minute it begins to flicker and then disappear.
Hi, I’ve been asking everywhere, but no one seems to know the answer.p to mu question... i figured i should ask you since i learned of both the 2s lite bayang silverware and shutterbug build from you.
Anyway, i have the betafpv 2s lite bayang beta fc,p and would like to build a shutterbug 85 using it. However, i am not sure if i can add a vtx to the fc. Will it have smart audio? (i’m guessing not) which vtx is best for a shutterbug build with the bayang fc? Also, if i add a vtx, can i still add an external rx? I’ve been searching for help with my fc for more than a month now, and I don’t know where else to turn. Haha
I have the Lite 2S bayang FC but I haven’t done much with it. I think you can connect an external SBUS receiver using the Rx pad if you want a different receiver. I don’t see a Tx pad for smart audio though, so you will probably need a vtx with a button to change channels. Interestingly, the FrSky version of the FC does have a Tx pad for SA but no RX pad. Weird. Good luck.
I figured that if i use a vtx, it should have a button to change power. But given the number of pads, how do i use both an external rx and vtx? They share the same gnd and 5v pads? Sorry for the noob questions, this would be my first build if ever.
@@franza.d.morales8529 You can fork the 5V and ground pads to power both. It's tricky to solder two wires to the same tiny pad on the FC, so I suggest soldering a single short wire to the FC, and then solder the two other wires to it with a bit of heat shrink (so the wire makes a 'Y'). Does that make sense? Good luck!
Awesome Quad!
How did you decide on 11,000 KV motors?
Have you thought about trying kababs new toothpick?
Yeah, it's cool, but I prefer whoop frames. I like to fly fast in close proximity to trees and structures. I started building 2s "whoops" because I got sick of fixing broken props and cameras. For my needs, this is a more enjoyable overall experience.
Would you say that 11.000 kv is mandatory? Or do you experience similar things like kababfpv that there is no real gain in thrust above a certain rpm?
kwadronaut a lower kv would probably be good too. I haven’t had time to experiment that much. This is just my hobby. I chose these motors because they plug in so easily and people already have them (and I had extras). Cheers!
have you tried the mobula 7 fc board in that build?