Be Smart With BJJ Training - More Is Not Always Better
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- Опубликовано: 16 ноя 2016
- Most people think the secret to getting better at BJJ is simply training more. That the only thing they lack is some extra rolling or mat time.
While more mat time definitely helps someone with Brazilian Jiu-jitsu. What some people, like myself, have discovered is that there can be too much of a good thing. And you need to be smart with your BJJ training so that you avoid overtraining.
As I share in this video. Back in 2010 when I had the chance to finally do BJJ full time without any other distractions. I started training like a mad man.
I'd often train twice a day and once a day on the weekends. So I'd go 7 days a week with no rest.
Eventually I started to become run down from this super high volume of training. And even worse was the fact that the payoff for more than doubling of my training volume was minimal.
I touched on this subject because I was asked a question from a viewer Lee who says he's training BJJ 6 days a week right now. But he says he felt better when he was only training 3 days a week. He feels the need to continue the 6 days a week to better his Brazilian Jiujitsu but is wondering if he should drop back down.
Hopefully if you're having the same question this video will help you.
-Chewy
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This is seriously the best jiujitsu channel on RUclips.
@Ignacio Tyson smd
Yup!
Agree!
Definitely
If you're already training hard, then at some point you need to think about training smarter not harder
BJJ is so addictive. In my experience, it is harder to be discipline and not train jiu jitsu rather than train. I used to just train only jiu jitsu 5,6 days a week for a year + and it did not work out for me. My jiu jitsu just didn't get any better and I start having tightness and pain in my lower back. I took 9 months off jiu jitsu to regroup. I came back with a better calisthenic/lifting routine 4x a week and train jiu jitsu only twice a week + 30 mins of stretching after class. I find that now my jiu jitsu are getting better at a faster rate, my body is stronger and pain free. BJJ is not easy on the body. BJJ is a martial art not a strength conditioning or a recovery program. Having the discipline/ long term mindset to find the sustainable way to train BJJ and maintain a strong, pain free body is not talk about enough in the community. Thank you for this video Nick. I really enjoyed your channel. :D
Nick. You called me by my given name. Haha. I'm glad you like the channel and videos. Thanks for the comment!
GREAT GREAT channel I love it. Instead of addressing how to do a technique you address the training and experiences of learning jiu jitsu. The body IS a finite resource and I always said this to my training partners in different words. I would tell them take care of your body cause you can't go to Walmart and get another ACL, watch your takedowns cause you can't go to Target and get another pain-free spine. Subscribed and thank you.
This comment speaks to me. Thank you
I can relate with the back pain bro
I cannot train back to back days. Impossible for me. I am 44
love this, i know im not ever gonna be a serious competitor and i dont need to train like im an athlete. i used to do 5 days a week and got burnt out and it started to feel like a chore. two classes a week are enough for me to have fun learn some stuff and enjoy the sport :)
Is anybody else weirded out how similar this guy's cadence, delivery, and mannerisms are to Elliot from strength camp?
Kevin Muck been thinking the same thing
Just came to the comments to see if anyone else thought the same. Must be this video in particular. Obviously the guy is a fan.. The gym as a backdrop and everything
The Afflicted Ok then you must know for sure
I said this ages ago
bro 😅 exactly the same 🤣
I train 3-5 days a week and am progressing wonderfully.
How are you doing, four years later on your BJJ journey?
I just started BJJ a couple months ago and I’m an obsessive person. I’m finding what you said to be spot on. More so on the injury front. Couple that with two nights of softball and I’m thrashing my body at 37. I think I will scale back to only 3 days of drills/rolling with maybe a technique focus day. Awesome advice.
I figured this out after a similar experience...this is absolute gold for certain people and for me, a game changer. I'm glad this topic came up as it hits home, and the more people that can benefit from this gem, the better!
I used to train 4-7 days and was in constant pain..I also fell into a rutt where I was falling into the same techniques over and over..I was also limited wit training partners..I eventually moved on to a bigger better school..Definitely made good progress after that
Nice advice Chew. I'll be 41 in just a few days and I know for my long term survival in BJJ 2 days per week is key for me. I work hard during those 2 classes, but anymore and it would put me over the top. Something I think lots of folks(especially us that have full time jobs, kids and their sports) don't take into account that these are stresses, not in a negative sense, but stresses. Both of my kids play sports and the past 2 and a half months it has been 2-3 games per week with many Saturdays fully taken up by these ball games. I know that I will never be the best with this amount of time, but if I stay with it for the next 20+ years, I'll be great.
As a 45 yr old brown belt with Rheumatoid disease and 30+ years of martial arts (not all BJJ, of course), I find the message in this video to be very wise. Too many folks in BJJ compare themselves to elite athletes and competitors, and expect that if we aren't going all out all the time, we aren't doing it right. If I went "all out" all the time I'd be hurt and unable to train at all (I know, I've done it. I ain't 25 any more!). Consistency and focus are the keys to improvement, not always intensity. Thanks so much for the videos. I love your channel!
i am a reasonably fit 39 year old who has been rolling for 3 months.
i tried rolling 5 days a week but my body never felt like it had recovered fully even after a 2 day rest. i still do 5 days but i just roll 3. i can now drill techniques all week and still have a good amount of energy to roll.
thanks for the videoes Chewy they help a lot!
John Arroway: 37 year-old here, training 5-6 times a week for the past 5 months, white belt. It's been tough on the body, but I supplement well and try to take it easy on the days I really feel tired but still don't want to miss the class...in these cases I just drill or roll with lighter opponents forcing myself to develop my game on my back instead of guard passing. Other days, when feeling rested I pick out harder and heavier opponents and roll with passion. So far I've been in two tourneys, with a 3rd and 2nd place (last Sunday!). Keep it up, buddy! Not like when we were 20, but we can still be hard as nails!!
John Arroway don't feel bad I'm only 30 and I have the same problem. lol! when I was 17, I could go all day long.
I'm 26 and I feel like I'm a 92 year old who got beat to sleep with a bat every morning...
Rodrigo Montero congratulations on your tournament performances!
Ionicguy lmao
I'm glad you brought this up. I didn't do BJJ for 3 months and when I came back i started to submit everyone and I found that pretty weird at the time.
That was some of the best advice and sensible advice I've ever heard. Perfect analysis. Going to implement this into my workout and see how it goes. Thanks you sir!
Good luck! And you're welcome.
everyone talks about days of training but not hours of training. classes are usually 1 to 1.5 hours. what's the strategy? class and independent training all day? morning class then a night class? what constitutes training? weights and cardiovascular is included in with the defintions of bjj training? it's be really nice to see a weekly strategy broken down by hours covering all aspects of training as its done in other sports.
This has really helped me put things into the proper context. I've gone from training twice a week to six days a week and while my performance has gotten better so has the wear on my body. I think I'll "deload" to a few days and focus on drilling technique.
Needed to hear this today. Chewy your awesome! OSS
🤜🏻💥🤛🏻🤙🏻
I missed 2 weeks straight my body needed it ... My Jiu Jitsu game went straight up I'm use to going least 2 or 3 days of week or sometimes 1 day of week... the job I do requires lot's of walking during my 8 hours graveyard shift. While I'm walking I do lot's of grip Training or neck exercises.
I train 6 times a week then do a quick lifting after bjj and when I get a small injury I still show up to technique class (fundamentals) and skip the rolling and skip the weight lifting too. I do end up feeling good but injuries end up healing slower
this really resonated with me. I'm about to turn 42, and I'm starting to feel it. I've been training consistently for six days a week. I've been able to do this because I don't have children, and my job schedule accommodates such a high volume of training. I'm starting to feel the aches and pains more -especially when I drill takedowns a lot. I decided to scale back and take one additional day off, and moderate my output at class. Rather than going hard each class, it's better to go hard 1-2 days a week. I also work on mobility and flexibility. It's definitely a walk or marathon, rather than a sprint.
Hey Chewy, Great advice..I'm kinda thinking about taking my training down a notch back to 3 days a week as my body isn't getting enough recovery time. I also have a question on what a good way it would be to balance out weight lifting and jiu jitsu in a weekly schedule?...i tend to go to BJJ on monday,wednesday,saturday now
-thanks
I love your videos, great pointers
Thank you Chewy!🎉
Thanks for this. I am only able to train 2-3 times and week and was feeling down about it lol
36 yrld newbie to BJJ but been working out a long time. I like to get an hour workout in every day. But the days after I roll I have been doing 1 hr yoga for bjj or for runners, athletes, etc, then some drill conditioning. A spoon of l-glutamine in my acai spinach kale shake does wonders too. The only way I can describe it is giving my muscles a nice cold glass of water to drink. The next day I feel limber, energized and relaxed. HTH
Hi I really enjoy your videos. Just tried my first class today. My question is not BJJ related. Your bracelet caught my eye, where did you get it?
Dude who asked this question. Read Faras Ahabi's book he is all about lower intensity higher rep type workout and training less but smart. Dude has trained some of the best. Also his jre mma podcast is a good listen for this style.
I started with judo for 3 years then I did bjj i got addicted to lifting weights and became bored of grappling ! I’m going back to bjj now as I find it easier on the body compared to judo! I think 3 times a week bjj is enough for a recreational hobby especially if you have a job and like to train cardio or weights. That’s just my two cents. I love your channel by the way.
I like training more so I catch classes on different techniques or positions. Admittedly I train a bit too much (aiming at 6-7 days each week), but I do take time off when my body needs rest. I’m also not rolling at competition levels
Knock on wood, no serious injuries yet. I’ll be starting a new semester of classes soon and take off 2 days each week
Such an underrated topic. I understand we are all superheroes and vikings but there comes the moment when you can''t wank or even sleep normally and it is not nice.
I tend to miss 2-3 weeks every 10-12 sessions as not only do I feel the damage but learning 10 new techniques every week is useless to me. This time off helps me understand and recover. Its vital to rest and to listen to your body. Fuck the egos and be smooth.
I train at AOJ and we have guys that train multiple times a day everyday. and that's fine if you want to be a world champ but, if you want to just enjoy the sport it's not needed. I train every other day and if I'm dead tired I just ask my partner to lightly roll and work on techniques. usually the older guys are super receptive lol.
This is a great advice
I will try this
Any advice on my problem would be greatly appreciated! I am a small blue belt and I am struggling with bigger white belts but I roll fine against other blue belts. I get discouraged because I feel like my jiu jitsu is not going to help me in a fight against a spastic opponent who just wants to crush me and pin me down
thank you for the content
Good stuff as always!!!
Thanks Vernon.
I was rolling on saturday, and I just felt off. I was relying way more on my strength than usual, not really thinking ahead of what I was doing. Kept getting tapped. Hate off days.
During the week we usually roll light to moderate and we drill self defense, submissions, and defense. Weekends are for all out open mats. If you roll at a high intensity 6 days a week your body is going to shut down on you. Sometimes I'm wanting for more rolling time but I realize that my instructions know what they are doing as they have been doing this longer than me so I go with the program... not to mention, drilling/practice is what makes perfection, not live rolls.
Knowledge brother knowledge I love it I need it, gotta live & train by it ! Thank u brother OSS 🤙🏽
Brilliant Brotha! OSS!
Thanks!
This is interesting. Thank you for the advice! Does this apply to serious competitors? I am preparing for my very first ibjjf comp, PANS at that and i wondering how many hours a week i should training.. Hoping to not be unprepared but also dont want to overtrain and risk injury.. Thanks!!
Of course. Even serious competitors have to balance training and avoid getting injured or running their body down to the point where they get sick or start having terrible training.
I am thinking about joining bjj, I was wondering how many days I should start out with? also I'm 22 and actually want to compete in the woman's division, is it to late for me to have that time to actually get good? you don't see many woman and when you do there trained years.
Ive been doing ju jitsu for almost 2 months 2 times a week and i struggle to not overheat during the warm ups and some of the actual training. What can i do to be able to just make it through without feeling like im in a sauna dying
Im 34 years old and started 3 months ago to train bjj daily (7x) +/- 14 hours. My body got so exhausted I lost all my strength. Emotionally I was going to break down. So i decided to scale back to 2x group lessons and 2x private class and 1x open mat so (5x) +/- 6-7 hours, plus 2 hours mma / kickboxing, in total 9 hours. I also hit the gym 2-3 times per week compound exercises 45 mins and I take one day rest! It is going way better now. I train this much because I want to compete in December.
+Chewjitsu anytime brudda👍👊
Mid 50’s here. 3 days a week seems to be my max. I can do 5 days a week, but I’ll have to take the entire next week off for recovery.
Also, during roll sessions, I try not to go hard all the time. In fact, I save the last roll for 100% against someone my level.
I used to defend hard, but I noticed that can damage my joints too. So, if I’m defending 80%, and I still can get out, I generally tap. If a girl is using proper technique, I normally tap also.
As for advancing in Jiu Jitsu, I like to study instructionals. It goes so much more in-depth than the class.
Then when I come to class, I try to implement what I learned. Then go back to instructionals when things don’t go right as planned. It’s usually because I forgot a crucial step.
Subbed for sure.
Got a question from my buddy Lee Sin. First blind bjj practitioner?
I don't know what that question was actually asking, but I had a few judo matches with a blind guy. It's really not that much different rolling with someone who is blind because really, 90% of what you do is by feel anyway. We would start with both people gripping the other, but otherwise, same thing.
That's pretty amazing. Always thought blind people would have a slight disadvantage but I've seen black belts roll with their eyes closed because they don't really need them to know what's going on. To answer your indirect question, Lee Sin is a champion from the popular video game League of Legends. He is a blind shaolin monk of sorts, uses sound and vibration to see the environment.
Theodor Campeanu
ahh. then the answer would be "no". lol
Haha that's where all the jokes came from the Lee Sin thing. Thanks for clearing that up. I haven't played a video game in years.
casual...
I train everyday, but I drill 80% of the time, getting the muscle memory without the exertion. I roll every other day or so. You're in the gym and getting the muscle memory without the fatigue. I guess most people roll hard every session.
This helps a lot
I just went hard for 2 days straight after not rolling for two years and I am beat up..
if i only can go to bjj class sometimes once a weeek, other times maybe twice but some weeks I cant but I drill and workout by myself will i be able to improve my bjj? im a white belt but I use to grapple a lot when I trained mma. please some one answere me, sorry for my English
Thank you
My bjj class is far away so I can only train 2 days a week but hey I can't wait
your will, my hands
Hi Chewjitsu. I'd like to ask... How much of an edge do you think a guy who actively seeks out videos such as yours, to learn more, has against someone exactly like him who does not do that?
Good question and one I'll probably do a video on. But the short answer is nothing. Watching videos is just taking in information. The people that get an edge are those who take the information from various resources, and then use it and put it into action.
Lee Sin to your heart
I haven’t mentioned it to him but one of my classmates whose lost his last 4 tournaments trains 5 days a week but when he was 3 days he was winning.
1 time a week I take 3 martial arts classes, 1½ hour bjj, 1½ kickboxing and then 1 hour MMA training, same day, no breaks. Then the other days I just train 2 hours of 1½ hour, 3 times a week. Is that too much? Or too little?
I'm a 2 stripe white belt , and I feel like I play too defensive and find myself having to fight out of horrible positions and somtimes I get out and end up in a good position but it takes the whole match to get there any advice
Watch some stuff from Adem Redzovic: "watch?v=Pnq9mN2odAg". He talks about concepts that can help with the bad positioningproblem
I do 5 days a week once a day I’m in college since I’m online I do work and class and then I have a lot of free time but now that I’m used to training I only roll hard on Saturday during Monday-Thursday I learn technique in class then I roll 5 round but I roll super light I’ll relax and play the game I’m not going crazy and trying to collect libs lol I’m just exchanging technique and moving and thinking but sometimes I don’t even roll the 5 rounds I’ll do 3 sometimes or 2 depends how I feel and Saturday is too chill and stretch and recover
You have a superb mind sir
Just a mind. :)
I have benn training in every major combat from boxing since 9yrs old. And jits dmfor 20 yrs im im 40 yrs old less is more but i teach keeps me sharp i roll onky once a day go easier on weight training omg my joints lol
Types of injuries and training?
43 yo, zero cardio or strength activity for 6 years due to health issues. I started bjj 2 x week but i do not recover between sessions so I have to lower it to one and see if I'm lucky and can continue.
Well, they all told us that rule number one was to show up … so I understand his 5-6 times totally.
Currently training 2-3 times a day about 4-5 days a week lol. One of the sessions is Muay Thai tho
3x a week is my optimal amount of jui jitsu. I am older and I need a day to heal up. I still work out on the other days. But my normal workouts are nothing compared to jui jitsu.
How would 6 classes over 4 days be?
I love working out and fitness I train twice a week and I feel great unless you plan on competing and you’re just training for self defense I think 2-3 days is great you stay fresh plus how many fights are you gonna get into in real life.
BJJ is fun but I would not say its the best for self-defense. If you want self-defense there are better arts like Boxing, Wrestling etc..
MT is maybe the best as most fights occur in close contact standing up
+Chewjitsu thanks for the video tips...I'm always open-minded for advice keep on showing up videos subscribe for life.
Thanks for the comment and positive words brother.
He just has to go resolve, get the armor runes and he should be fine.
I only train 2-4 times a week so 3 days on average: and I’m a purple belt who taps out black belts. Some guys need to train 5-6 days a week. Everyone is different.
Yeah I did this my third week including running and lifting weights and hitting practice hard 3-5 times a week on the third week my body over heated and just shut down especially since I was wearing too many clothes and not use to the GI ... so yeah take it easy .
Also I'm 29 and was wondering if I was too old to start , fuck it , jump in train smart and listen to body ... screw age
At almost 50, I'm good with 3 days, 2 of jittsu, 1 MMA. Two more days of light weight-training, 2 other days of nothing. I'm learning, not feeling blown out or injured...but, my question, how do you have a 'light' training day? Every time I go there, it's like a war. :)
Light day for me is movement, drilling active recovery work. No hard rolling and no heavy lifting.
I train in the early morning due to my work schedule. I am 43. I do crossfit with my wife on Monday Wednesday Thursday and bjj Tuesday and Friday. Been doing this since I started bjj 8 months ago. Been doing crossfit much longer. My joints are starting to hurt. I may be over training especially for my age. I am thinking about cutting out Thursday Crossfit and making it a rest day. I was a Marine so I tend to be stubborn but I am feeling it. I wrestled a lot when I was younger so being back on the mat is awesome.
Sorry for so much background information. I just want you to know where I am coming from.
What do you think?
What do you do on your off days? Do you stretch, foam roll or anything like that?
Saturday and Sunday are my off days. Saturday I go to chiropractic and massage. Then just veg out. Sunday is church and chores. No stretching or foam rolling on those days
You should try some stretching or foam rolling. I'll have a few videos on stretching, corrective exercises and foam rolling soon.
I will do that. I will check out your videos. Thanks
If you're young and you don't feel lethargic after training 7 days a week rolling everyday, is it okay to do so?
I'm 17 by the way
I'd advise against it. Just for injuries sake.
I’ve had to add strength training cause my back keeps going out from imbalances and just doing bjj 6 days your body overloads
Who else thought the thumbnail had a Tai Lopez vibe?
"Here in my gym. Just bought this new, uh, mat here."
Want me to show my bookshelves in the back?
@@Chewjitsu I read a book a day!
How long would you train per session?
Ohana7 it depends on if your only doing technique, or if you are sparring. also, there's flexibility training, weight training and so forth. work on what's gonna make you better. and how much mental capacity you have also.. I mean, somethings take more time than others to process.. but if your rolling with little guys go all day! lol.
Lee sin lol
I train MMA once a week. Jiu Jitsu 2-3 times a week. And have at least a light workout session the rest of the days of the week.
Law of Diminishing Return.
I take 15 classes per week it forces me not to use strength in my technique
Lee sin? Bro he's gonna rekt us
It's crazy cause he's also blind
5 minutes of focused training will always be better than 5 hours of mindless training.
Oss
if i trained at a gym where i had to ask to drill as opposed to roll i wouldnt train there anymore
Yo how do I get me one of those dope shirts 👍🏼?
They're sold out now. You can either jump on the email list or check back to my www.chewjitsu.net website later on to see when the are available. :)
Chewjitsu will do man. Been watching all your videos. Can you do some stuff on barimbolo w gi and without gi. I'll peep out the site
What happened to your toof?
Got chipped years ago. And the cap kept getting knocked out from Wrestling, MMA and BJJ. Just said fuck it. :P
your body will eventually wear out,- knees , etc.. just you wait and see... study bjj as a hobby , which will preserve your body and allow you to be able to walk when your older. trust me even RG is all beat up and has a few regrets. becoming the goat at bjj won't hit you any jackpot financially, those benefits are reserved for pro ball
lmao lee sin, my boi is a jungler!! JglLivesMatter2
My coach gives me a bad look when I rest instead of rolling. I’m in my early 20s
I don't give a fuck,best thing to improve is studying techniques 2hours every day and really try to understand them,then use them against a resesting partner in sparring,because there is no "perfect technique" so imo drilling is overrated.
beeig overtrained makes you having steps back not forward, exept if you are on roids
The hairy guy speaks da truth...
Whats wrong with being hairy?
An affectionate term for a guy who calls himself "Chewjistu", from a guy is genetically ungifted when it comes to facial hair...your beard would take me about 12 years to grow..
What is a DVD? Lol
One word: neurosis.
I humbly disagree with saying its not beneficial to go more than 5 days a week. Everyone is different. Im 21. I train 6 days a week, multiple times a day some days. I get optimal sleep and my nutrition is good. My body is hardly ever beat up and I roll hard almost every training session.
You're 21 so your body is still very young and resilient. I'm 30 and 6 days a week of hard training would kill my knees, shoulders and fingers. No more than 4 days a week with only 2 days of all out sparring.
Lee Sin? league player? lol