Every team they faced (except for the bucs) had beat them in the regular season and this was a team who had gone one-and-done in the playoffs for the past 2 seasons
Feel like you downplayed the 2007 Giants run as just beating the Patriots. They were underdogs for every playoff game, went into Tampa Bay, went into Dallas, went into Lambeau and beat them all. They had a very tough road.
I have tons of respect and credit for Eli. I'm an Eagles fan and even though he only beat The Eagles under 7 or 8 times in his career; he won a lot of games no one thought he should and had a quick, accurate release and never got rattled. He was better than his brother in playoffs but not many care to admit it.
Excellent point. As a Giants fan, Eli could drive me crazy with some of his decision making. But he seemed to play his best in the biggest moments, while Peyton was the opposite: flawless in the regular season, only to lay a dud in the playoffs. Interesting that the Giants and Eagles are the only 2 teams to win a SuperBowl (and all of their playoff games) without their starting QB.
I lived in Colorado in 1998 and Seattle in 2013 so I saw pretty much all their games in both those seasons. Despite the fact I have always hated the Broncos and especially John Elway, I will, without hesitation, call that 1998 team one of the best I've ever seen. They were a freaking juggernaut and often had games won by the end of the 1st quarter. Hell, Bubby Brister started a few games and they still were unstoppable. We were cheated of potentially the greatest super bowl ever by the Vikings forgetting to finish the NFC championship game. Seattle's 2013 team was also damned good. People talk about the Legion of Boom, but this was the point where Wilson, who was once a great quarterback, had found his NFL game and was kick-ass all year long. The offense clicked. Golden Tate had to take on a #1 receiver role and balled out. Doug Baldwin and Jermaine Kearse were integral pieces in making plays happen when needed. That bomb in the NFC game to Kearse was the moment we all knew Wilson had arrived. I would also argue that the 2013 Seahawks were one of the all time best teams.
Lmao yall crazy... even IF Minnesota would've made it that yr, they wasn't gonna beat Denver... they wouldn't have been able to stop Terrell Davis. Besides Atlanta beat them then got their asses kicked. They couldn't beat Atlanta but they were gonna beat the broncos??? Nah... I dont think so
But when your doing an average you're also leaving out the fact that some teams had to play more games on their playoff run which I think also contributes to the difficulty.
No because if a team plays 4 teams then you divide the teams srs scores by 4, but if they play 3 teams then you divide it by 3 so there’s no advantage. Obviously an SRS score doesn’t measure how good a team is, but I thought it would be fun to use statistics to see at who had to play the hardest teams
@@tubfrog No I understand that. I'm just saying that the average SRS score (or an average of anything for that matter) doesn't show the fact that 4 games is simply harder to win than 3 most of the time. Say a team had to win 4 games all against teams with an SRS score of 4, and another team had to win 3 games against teams all with an SRS score of 5, the average SRS score would say that the second team would have it harder (even though the total would be lower making it debatable) simply because an average reflects 100% quality and 0% quantity.
@@tubfrog I'm not even saying that using an average rather than a total is necessarily wrong, it's just unfavorable to teams such as the 2012 Ravens, last years Rams. or any team that won a super bowl without a first round bye. Definitely still worth looking at nonetheless.
I think the 2012 Ravens deserve a shout for this as their Super Bowl run was marked by tough matchups against prime Andrew Luck, playing against Manning and Brady away, and defeating a tough 49ers squad with Flacco scoring 11 TDs and no interceptions throughout the run. The mile high miracle against the Broncos and the AFC championship rematch against the Patriots showed their great perseverance through those tough opponents
@@erickennedy3322 I agree wit u ab the broncos, they were def the favorite to win that one and then go all the way. If Joe hadn’t hit Jacob Jones we would’ve lost no doubt
Don't forget the 1990 Giants. After defeating the Bears at home, they had to beat the back to back Champion 49ers in SF, then they had to beat the Bills in SuperBowl 25. And they won all 3 playoff games without their starting QB, former SuperBowl MVP Phil Simms.
My dad was at MSP for a flight to Vegas during the 1998 NFC championship. He still tells me the story about how they wheeled a TV into the lobby for everyone to watch the game, he had to get on his flight early in the 3rd quarter. about halfway to Vegas, the pilot says over the radio "the game is over, Anderson made the game-winning kick" the entire plane erupts in celebration only for the pilot to say "No, It was the wrong Anderson, we're not going to the Superbowl" Being a Vikings fan truly is pain.
The 2005 Steelers should’ve been a top 3. Considering they were 7-5 through 12 games, they NEEDED to win out+get help just in order to clinch the 6 seed. Once there, they beat the 3 seed Bengals In Cincinnati. Then they beat a heavily favored 14-2 Colts in Indy ( most analysts had them winning the Super Bowl, especially after New England got knocked out) Then the Steelers beat the 2 seed Broncos in Denver in the AFC Championship game. They proceeded to the Super Bowl and beat the number 1 seed Seattle Seahawks with the leagues best offense, and the league MVP Shaun Alexander. I think is one of the most impressive runs considering how the Steelers had virtually no shot to make the postseason during the last month of 2005. Once they got in, they were underdogs every game, and they became the first team in postseason history to beat the 1, 2, and 3 seeds in the playoff bracket , all in one go. First team to win 3 road playoff games in one go. And they were the first team to be a 6 seed team and win the Super Bowl. Plus that Steelers team had a pretty meh offense and a good, but not great defense. I think it was a damn impressive run and certainly a very tough run considering the factors and variables that came into the picture. 2005 Steelers should be top 3 atleast
Yeah but they freaking cheated in the Super Bowl. Seahawks should’ve won but the “Steel Curtain” cheated. I’ll give it to them, they had an impressive run but they def cheated in the Super Bowl. If you haven’t already seen it, I’m a Seattle fan.
@@Mooniastar_13 I'm also a Seattle fan but they also played like crap in the superbowl. The refs did suck but Seattle came out flat. I've rewatched that superbowl and it's one of the worst of all time. Considering how great Seattle played up to that point, they do need to look at themselves and not just the refs.
@@Mooniastar_13 idk, the officiating was bad on both sides. I felt Seattle should’ve won, but they made several mistakes as well. Mike Holmgrens clock management was awful that game. Their kicking sucked, and league MVP Shaun Alexander went missing all of the sudden
@@Mooniastar_13 Honestly even though the super bowl was tainted by refball, i don't think Seattle would have won regardless. I mean, it was totally unfair and that's not OK, but people act like that steelers team NEEDED to rig the game to win.
The 2005 Peyton Manning was still Playoff Choker Manning. That was always the knock on him until he won the year after. Chad Pennington in his Miracle 2001 season took the Jets from 2-5 to the Playoffs and Spanked the Colts 44-0 in the Wildcard. Until Manning finally won, he was a known Playoff Loser. Doesn't matter what the Colts did in the regular season, everyone knew they were losing in the Playoffs
The 2004 patriots faced mvp peyton manning's colts in the divisional round, an afc championship game at 16-1 pittsburgh, and a super bowl vs the 15-3 eagles
Super Bowl 3. The AFC was deemed as "could never win", the Baltimore Colts were an unstoppable team led by prime Johnny Unitas...and Broadway Joe guaranteed the win before hand. Back then, they were trying to injure your Star Players. Namath dislocated a finger on his throwing hand that game and played through it.
I wouldn't call the Giants SRS score juiced. They had to play the 1st, 3rd, and 4th best teams by SRS that year and before those 3 games they had to beat the 3rd best defense in the NFL. Further, they had to play every game on the road which means playing at Lambeau in 30 below freezing for the NFC title game. The other three teams got to play their pre-SB games at home. I think this proves the Giants had objectively the hardest path ever.
Easily the 2007 Giants they went into every single playoff game on the road and were completely written off by almost everyone then after all that they make it all the way to the Superbowl where they faced the 18-0 Patriots who were undefeated all season and were looking to become only the second team to go undefeated in the superbowl era with the superbowl pre game odds were about 14-1 underdogs but they actually did it they beat the Patriots thanks to a late 4th quarter drive by Eli Manning
I'd like this updated to see how the '23-'24 Chiefs Super Bowl ranks. They beat Miami in the frigid cold, then had to go on the road to beat the 2-seeded Bills, then on the road to beat the 1-seeded Ravens, then beat the 1-seeded 49ers, who were said to have arguably the best roster in the NFL.
The 2007 giants will forever be the greatest underdog in my mind. Defeating Romo, Farve & Brady without the benefit of a home game will never be topped. Wether it’s the 1927 Yankees, the 1996 bulls or the 1977 Canadians. No team was as dominant in pro sports history like the 2007 pats.
I mean I have to naturally stick with the wildcard team that beat an undefeated dynasty team with the greatest head coach of all time overseeing a top 5 shutdown defense riddled with all pros and hall of famers, lead by the greatest QB ever and the most dominant WR ever having their best seasons, setting all time records as they torched every team the faced up until the SB. Like, take a handful of those aspects and it's probably tbe most impressive win, but all of those? Literally crazier than the US beating Russia in 1980 in the Miracle On Ice
just remember: the '76 steelers had one of the greatest defenses ever and for the whole season, most of their starters were injured on the offensive side of the ball. Without those injuries, they would have 7 rings
I think ignoring the raw data about this stat, the 2011 Giants SB run is probably the toughest considering 1) they had to beat both Rodgers and Brady to win that championship and 2) let’s face it, on paper that Giants team was nowhere near as good as any team they played in the playoffs, but they still pulled it off.
Im a broncos fan, have been for 30 years, and i still say the 07 giants win this catagory. Going away every game as underdogs, and winning them all is a feat man
This is easily the Giants. Beat the 13-3 Cowboys in Dallas, beat the 13-3 Packers in Green Bay in literally some of the worst conditions in NFL history, then beat the 18-0 Patriots led by the unanimous GOAT during his peak season. Seriously, it's not even close lol.
I really think the 2013 Seahawks are the best team in NFL history. I've never seen a team do what they did. Their defense was so good that they had two offenses, it was nuts.
That’s pure disrespectful delusion right there. There are far better Super Bowl teams than the 2013 Seagulls: 72 Dolphins were better 75 Steelers were better 84 49ers were better 85 Bears were better 89 49ers were better 93 Cowboys were better 02 Bucs were better ETC.
@@LEBUMCHOKEDIN6FINALS literally all different eras with different discretion on what is and isnt legal. In more than half of those teams listed the league wasnt even anywhere near the athletic capacity in the modern game. You probably werent even alive either!
2004 Patriots beat 12-4 Manning led Colts, then a juggernaut 15-1 Steelers team, THEN 13-3 Eagles in the SB. Eagles team that had been to 4 straight Conference Championships and added an unguardable TO for that season.
I hate the Eagles but the 2017 Eagles to beat the 2017 Patriots is one of most impressive wins I’ve ever seen. The 07 Giants is still probably the hardest Super Bowl win
Man, the fact that the Vikings were mentioned twice, and mostly being favorites to win it all. They came up short. As a Vikings fan, it just hurts my soul.
I never would have guessed Denver and Seattle being in the top 4 of difficult scheduled. probably because both were the best teams of that year however denver socre would have been bigger had they beaten then 15-1 much better vikings
You should add all the numbers up to make a total. Teams that didn’t have a first round bye should be ranked as harder as they had to play one more game.
Well, the LOB actually had 13 players pop for PED's and even as I watched the game, they would get away with a lot of DPI and holding on offense. That, and the 49ers game was rigged. There were multiple possessions where penalties were missed that would've swung possessions in the 49ers favor, like the roughing the kicker, DPI again, and more uncalled holding for the Seahawks. They were talented and definitely steam rolled teams, but they juiced so it drops the respect meter for me. Same goes for any 70's steelers rings
I don’t think people realize how good that Seahawks team in 2013 was. The Saints, Niners, and Broncos were all damn good that year and probably would have won a title in any different year with how good they were. Seattle beat them all.
I find interesting that only 3 of the top 10 teams on the list of hardest superbowl winners are NFC teams. This implies that the path to the superbowl through the playoff is harder for AFC teams because there are more diificult teams on the AFC side to face in the playoffs with higher average SRS. This is even more supported when you consider that two of the NFC teams in the top 10 are the giants teams who faced the patriots in the superbowl and the patriots extremely high SRS both times probably significantly weighted the giants final average opponent SRS.
I think this stems from the fact that historically the NFC is usually more balanced out and the AFC has been top heavy, meaning the AFC teams usually have higher SRS's from the regular season. Also there are 4 NFC teams in the top 10, the '92 Cowboys are at 7.
The AFC is a much easier conference than the NFC. for literally 2 decades every year they sent either tom brady, peyton or rothlisberger to the super bowl. the worst teams are in the AFC the worst division is in the AFC. the all time win loss of AFC teams playing against NFC is below 500. In the 80s the AFC lost the super bowl 13 times in a row. In the 60s the NFL stole all the top talent for the AFL which is why the colts, packers, cowboys were the only true professional teams-- AFC teams in the 60s were like college teams
We lost out on way could have been the most action oriented super bowl of our lives in the '98 season. Minnesota fell to Atlanta and we got blowout. What could have been...
I’m an old man that saw the games at the top of your list. I like the video. You do a great job. Stop saying “of all time” about everything. 😂 But great video, maybe the best of all time….
When the Skins win a championship, everybody sees it coming. When the broncos win one, it's a gauntlet (though the 2nd one back to back I seen to remember being a pretty easy run)
I agree that it's hard to tell the WHOLE story. Think of those one-ring-only teams. They often don't have these long dynasties, "prestige" or other non-statistic places. Having more road games is also an excellent measurement. I love that there's a lot of story telling to be had in these history games, it really adds to the allure of this form of entertainment.
The Giants Super Bowl is right there and so is Seattle but yeah, the way you broke it down. It makes a lot of sense that the Raiders is the toughest Super Bowl. I mean those teams were all time all time that the Raiders had to play. Let’s give them their respect, playing so high up to competition that they actually wonit all and of course John Madden the coach
VERY surprised 2012 Ravens weren't higher, played tom brady and peyton manning on the road, and played a pretty good 49ers team I dont know too much about
07 Giants Wait....2013 Seahawks? The Legion of Boom? The second most dominant defense since the turn of the millennium? Before watching, I'mma need explanation lmao. Especially seeing the 2010 Packers and 2012 Ravens not being high much at all.
The 2012 Ravens are low because they faced a SHITTY Colts team in the wild card round. Other than that, yeah, they faced an absolute gauntlet of a schedule in the post season.
I refuse to believe that the 2019 Chiefs is ranked so low when they came back from multi-score deficits in every single postseason game and finished with a 12-4 record in a tough ass AFC.
Bro playing bad against mid teams and then having to claw yourself out of holes doesnt mean those mid teams are better than they are. They just played down to competiton and then the 49ers were legit.
The First & 2nd Super Bowl champions the Green Bay Packers have the hardest run to a Super Bowl with their first run being a 16.24 SRS (Beat the Cowboys and Chiefs) and a WHOPPING 21.586 repeating for ring #2 (Beat the Rams, Cowboys, and Raiders)
I’ve always felt that the 2008 Steelers were one of the biggest SB winner question marks. First off, as Barry McCockiner has repeatedly brought up, Pittsburgh never beat Brady’s Pats in the playoffs and they didn’t have to play him that year. But beside that, they actually didn’t beat a single first-round bye team that entire year, not even in the playoffs. It’s taking nothing away from the Cardinals for getting to the Super Bowl that year, but they only had a 9-7 record. To me, that’s not enough of a challenge to prove yourself as the undoubted best team of the year.
@@bp4016 I’m just saying that to me, they didn’t face as much of a challenge as they could have. The Cardinals’ defense was among the worst in the league that year, and a much better one may have prevented that game-winning drive. Think about the AFC Championship game: the Ravens had a great defense too and only allowed Pittsburgh’s offense to score one touchdown. The game was close the entire time, and it was Polamalu who had to step up and make the play to shift the tide. Yes, they handled the competition they faced, but they did get somewhat fortunate while doing it.
I don't think the average SRS is a good determiner of how hard their schedule was, because a team with a first round bye who plays 3 really good teams will have a higher AVERAGE than a team who plays a decent team in the wild card round and then 3 really good teams, but the wild card team who had to play 4 games, including beating a playoff team just to get to where the first team started, obviously had a harder playoff run
I feel like this was your best video yet. I like how you gave a solid argument for each of the teams and honestly I think the Goat Himself Eli had the hardest in my opinion. Side note I’m pretty sure Joe Namath got high one time, ended up summoning satan himself and then sold his soul for the Super Bowl win while Also selling any possible future or happiness for the jets franchise
Easily the 2017 eagles. Backup QB, 2nd year coach against a tough falcons team, elite Vikings defense (embarrassed them 38-7) then won probably the most epic shootout of all time against the Patriots dynasty in the Super Bowl. World was against them and they still came out on top
Umm, no. 2017 Eagles were the NFC's top seed with a first-round bye and home field advantage throughout the playoffs. And held that great aging Patriots team to 33 points. The wildcard 2007 Giants played every game on the road and beat the #4-seed (at Tampa), #1-seed (at Dallas) and #2-seed (at Green Bay in -23 degree weather). Then they beat the 18-0 Patriot juggernaut - holding them to 14 points. The wildcard road warrior Giants (10-1 on the road that year) had an infinitely tougher road to their Super Bowl than the #1-seed 2017 Eagles.
I remember the Denver vs Seattle super bowl game, there was a special going on at the bar I was watching it at, for every touchdown there was a special shot served for the specific team that scored, we got hammered on Seahawks shots 😂
The 2004 Pats mean playoff opponent SRS, subtracting the Eagles week 16:17 losses and the Colts week 17 loss where they rested their starters was roughly 10.57 defeating the *12-3 Colts, *13-1 Eagles and 15-1 Steelers.
2004 Patriots and 2012 Ravens deserve have a case also. 2004 Patriots beat MVP Peyton Manning’s Colts with the best offense in the league, beat the 15-1 Steelers on the road, and then a 13-3 Eagles team in the Super Bowl. 2012 Ravens dominated the Colts in Andrew Luck’s first year, then went on the road to Denver and beat the 13-3 Broncos led by Peyton Manning, then outscored the Patriots 21-0 in the second half of the AFC Championship, giving Brady his only home AFC Championship loss, and then beat a very talented 49ers team in the Super Bowl.
Interesting vid. How do you account for statical probability of winning. Like if you have a 50/50 chance of winning a game, then just by playing an extra game, your probability goes way down. But, I like how you rate the avg of the road to the super bowl
The hardest Super Bowl I could design would be a 7 seed beating the 4 best teams in the league in close games. 2nd seed in the wild card, 1st seed in the divisional, 3rd seed/5th seed (depending on division locations) in the CC, 1st seed in the Super Bowl. So in our year, it would be the Lions beating the 49ers, Eagles, Cowboys, then the Chiefs for a ring. Winning all close games where they’d probably be big underdogs. Bonus points if the 4 teams were extremely talented relative to other years. So you’d be the regular season runt in a top heavy conference, then face down the undisputed best team in the other conference in the Super Bowl. Ironically close games are more difficult than blowouts, since in blowouts you are supposed to take the foot off the gas and play conservative to finish. If the game is a brawl from kickoff to 0:00, you have to play extremely aggressive the whole time, which is more difficult.
"hall of famers and pro bowlers everywhere" damn it literally seems like the more future hall of famers, pro bowlers, and all pros you have, the more likely you are to win the super bowl
Raiders…everyone one and more. Tuck rule, immaculate reception, phantom whistle…etc …plus I think Jay Schroeder was drugged by the nfl when he threw 7 picks against the bills….
crazy how arguably the best defense of all time went up against arguably the best offense of all time and played against each other in the superbowl... Those two teams were something special. Go Hawks!
As for the 2016 Pats coming into the SB the Atlanta Falcons were a top 10 All time Offense and the New England Patriots were missing Gronk aka there great TE Weapon
Why aren’t the 2017 eagles getting mentioned? They had to play the entire post season with a journey man back up and with mostly a rag tag team of disposable players
I gota say the 2017 eagles they lose their starting QB plus all the other crazy injuries and then out performing Brady and belicheck. Truly a Cinderella story.
I love data and statistics based lists like this. While obviously, objectively, we know there are more factors into what makes a playoff run harder or easier than others, stats aren't objective. They are concrete. So whether you take this list as a standalone gospel and quote it, or use it as a basis to put perspective on your own analysis, it is a very useful compiling of data that makes for a very well put together video. Thank you for making it.
Has to be the 07 Giants for me. Beat probably the best Cowboys team since mid 90s, beat Favre in GB in -20F weather, then beat the undefeated Pats, all narrow victories.
@11:16 I remember watching this game with my dad and saying, “this is gonna be a rough game.” And my dad said “I agree, I think this is the Super Bowl right here.” I was devastated when the niners lost, I still go into convulsions when I hear anyone talk about it.
Still gotta go 07 Giants. Every game on the road and then the most iconic Super Bowl win ever
Every team they faced (except for the bucs) had beat them in the regular season and this was a team who had gone one-and-done in the playoffs for the past 2 seasons
They were also the only one of the top 4 to play in the wild card round
Agreed
Absolutely
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Feel like you downplayed the 2007 Giants run as just beating the Patriots. They were underdogs for every playoff game, went into Tampa Bay, went into Dallas, went into Lambeau and beat them all. They had a very tough road.
ya imo it's the greatest plaoyff rune very, but I've talked about it so many times before which is why I glossed over it
@@tubfrog 2012 Ravens is a better run but 2007 Giants is up there
@@NostalgiaDemon The Broncos were literally the only tough team on their playoff schedule and they still only barely won against the Pats and Niners.
@@ReallyH2 Baltimore you mean? The Ravens took on the Denver and NE on the road. Manhandling the latter, in fact.
Nah man. The Patriots and Niners that year were both all time great teams in their own ways as well. Both actually were better than the Broncos.
I have tons of respect and credit for Eli. I'm an Eagles fan and even though he only beat The Eagles under 7 or 8 times in his career; he won a lot of games no one thought he should and had a quick, accurate release and never got rattled. He was better than his brother in playoffs but not many care to admit it.
Excellent point. As a Giants fan, Eli could drive me crazy with some of his decision making. But he seemed to play his best in the biggest moments, while Peyton was the opposite: flawless in the regular season, only to lay a dud in the playoffs.
Interesting that the Giants and Eagles are the only 2 teams to win a SuperBowl (and all of their playoff games) without their starting QB.
@@Guy_Incognito1 Yep. They're the only two teams.
iirc, it's the 1990 giants & 2017 eagles that won it all w/o their original starting quarterbacks.
I lived in Colorado in 1998 and Seattle in 2013 so I saw pretty much all their games in both those seasons. Despite the fact I have always hated the Broncos and especially John Elway, I will, without hesitation, call that 1998 team one of the best I've ever seen. They were a freaking juggernaut and often had games won by the end of the 1st quarter. Hell, Bubby Brister started a few games and they still were unstoppable. We were cheated of potentially the greatest super bowl ever by the Vikings forgetting to finish the NFC championship game.
Seattle's 2013 team was also damned good. People talk about the Legion of Boom, but this was the point where Wilson, who was once a great quarterback, had found his NFL game and was kick-ass all year long. The offense clicked. Golden Tate had to take on a #1 receiver role and balled out. Doug Baldwin and Jermaine Kearse were integral pieces in making plays happen when needed. That bomb in the NFC game to Kearse was the moment we all knew Wilson had arrived. I would also argue that the 2013 Seahawks were one of the all time best teams.
'98 MN PRO FOOTBALL Team would still be scoring on the Broncos. Nice try though.
Il say this the broncos didnt have a good pass defence i feel like minnesota would have won that game
Hmm well then guys, uh why didnt they make the super bowl if they were so dominant lol
Post said hardest superbowls ever won not no who the best team to win it or whatever dude is talking about
Lmao yall crazy... even IF Minnesota would've made it that yr, they wasn't gonna beat Denver... they wouldn't have been able to stop Terrell Davis. Besides Atlanta beat them then got their asses kicked. They couldn't beat Atlanta but they were gonna beat the broncos??? Nah... I dont think so
But when your doing an average you're also leaving out the fact that some teams had to play more games on their playoff run which I think also contributes to the difficulty.
No because if a team plays 4 teams then you divide the teams srs scores by 4, but if they play 3 teams then you divide it by 3 so there’s no advantage. Obviously an SRS score doesn’t measure how good a team is, but I thought it would be fun to use statistics to see at who had to play the hardest teams
@@tubfrog No I understand that. I'm just saying that the average SRS score (or an average of anything for that matter) doesn't show the fact that 4 games is simply harder to win than 3 most of the time. Say a team had to win 4 games all against teams with an SRS score of 4, and another team had to win 3 games against teams all with an SRS score of 5, the average SRS score would say that the second team would have it harder (even though the total would be lower making it debatable) simply because an average reflects 100% quality and 0% quantity.
@@CRMdrifter true and that’s why it’s nowhere near perfect but I think it’s worth looking at anyway
@@tubfrog I'm not even saying that using an average rather than a total is necessarily wrong, it's just unfavorable to teams such as the 2012 Ravens, last years Rams. or any team that won a super bowl without a first round bye. Definitely still worth looking at nonetheless.
@@tubfrog Not saying a total is great either considering it punishes teams for doing well in the regular season.
I think the 2012 Ravens deserve a shout for this as their Super Bowl run was marked by tough matchups against prime Andrew Luck, playing against Manning and Brady away, and defeating a tough 49ers squad with Flacco scoring 11 TDs and no interceptions throughout the run. The mile high miracle against the Broncos and the AFC championship rematch against the Patriots showed their great perseverance through those tough opponents
Andrew Luck was actually a rookie during that season, but your points about winning over Manning and Brady on the road are valid.
The ravens had the best run of all time. I wouldnt say the hardest but we had something that year nobody else had. Playoff Flacco!
Broncos should won that game. That was a lost Super Bowl. Chris Harris never heard Tom Jackson , bait it down.
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@@erickennedy3322 I agree wit u ab the broncos, they were def the favorite to win that one and then go all the way. If Joe hadn’t hit Jacob Jones we would’ve lost no doubt
Don't forget the 1990 Giants. After defeating the Bears at home, they had to beat the back to back Champion 49ers in SF, then they had to beat the Bills in SuperBowl 25. And they won all 3 playoff games without their starting QB, former SuperBowl MVP Phil Simms.
My dad was at MSP for a flight to Vegas during the 1998 NFC championship. He still tells me the story about how they wheeled a TV into the lobby for everyone to watch the game, he had to get on his flight early in the 3rd quarter. about halfway to Vegas, the pilot says over the radio "the game is over, Anderson made the game-winning kick" the entire plane erupts in celebration only for the pilot to say "No, It was the wrong Anderson, we're not going to the Superbowl"
Being a Vikings fan truly is pain.
The 2005 Steelers should’ve been a top 3. Considering they were 7-5 through 12 games, they NEEDED to win out+get help just in order to clinch the 6 seed.
Once there, they beat the 3 seed Bengals In Cincinnati. Then they beat a heavily favored 14-2 Colts in Indy ( most analysts had them winning the Super Bowl, especially after New England got knocked out) Then the Steelers beat the 2 seed Broncos in Denver in the AFC Championship game. They proceeded to the Super Bowl and beat the number 1 seed Seattle Seahawks with the leagues best offense, and the league MVP Shaun Alexander.
I think is one of the most impressive runs considering how the Steelers had virtually no shot to make the postseason during the last month of 2005. Once they got in, they were underdogs every game, and they became the first team in postseason history to beat the 1, 2, and 3 seeds in the playoff bracket , all in one go. First team to win 3 road playoff games in one go. And they were the first team to be a 6 seed team and win the Super Bowl. Plus that Steelers team had a pretty meh offense and a good, but not great defense.
I think it was a damn impressive run and certainly a very tough run considering the factors and variables that came into the picture. 2005 Steelers should be top 3 atleast
Yeah but they freaking cheated in the Super Bowl. Seahawks should’ve won but the “Steel Curtain” cheated. I’ll give it to them, they had an impressive run but they def cheated in the Super Bowl. If you haven’t already seen it, I’m a Seattle fan.
@@Mooniastar_13 I'm also a Seattle fan but they also played like crap in the superbowl. The refs did suck but Seattle came out flat. I've rewatched that superbowl and it's one of the worst of all time. Considering how great Seattle played up to that point, they do need to look at themselves and not just the refs.
@@Mooniastar_13 idk, the officiating was bad on both sides. I felt Seattle should’ve won, but they made several mistakes as well. Mike Holmgrens clock management was awful that game. Their kicking sucked, and league MVP Shaun Alexander went missing all of the sudden
@@Mooniastar_13 Honestly even though the super bowl was tainted by refball, i don't think Seattle would have won regardless. I mean, it was totally unfair and that's not OK, but people act like that steelers team NEEDED to rig the game to win.
The 2005 Peyton Manning was still Playoff Choker Manning. That was always the knock on him until he won the year after. Chad Pennington in his Miracle 2001 season took the Jets from 2-5 to the Playoffs and Spanked the Colts 44-0 in the Wildcard. Until Manning finally won, he was a known Playoff Loser. Doesn't matter what the Colts did in the regular season, everyone knew they were losing in the Playoffs
The 2004 patriots faced mvp peyton manning's colts in the divisional round, an afc championship game at 16-1 pittsburgh, and a super bowl vs the 15-3 eagles
Those steelers were frauds and the pats kinda were too no elite weapons is usually a bad thing
Thank god for all those walkthroughs and signals recorded.
That was literally the best Patriots team under Belichick lol
@@mramisuzuki6962 thank god you’re still crying about it 18 years later
Manning was a regular season MVP, but he was the Playoff Choker. Beating his teams in the playoffs was expected.
Super Bowl 3. The AFC was deemed as "could never win", the Baltimore Colts were an unstoppable team led by prime Johnny Unitas...and Broadway Joe guaranteed the win before hand. Back then, they were trying to injure your Star Players. Namath dislocated a finger on his throwing hand that game and played through it.
Richard Sherman’s picture got me dead. 💀
he did the LOB dirty lol
I wouldn't call the Giants SRS score juiced. They had to play the 1st, 3rd, and 4th best teams by SRS that year and before those 3 games they had to beat the 3rd best defense in the NFL. Further, they had to play every game on the road which means playing at Lambeau in 30 below freezing for the NFC title game. The other three teams got to play their pre-SB games at home. I think this proves the Giants had objectively the hardest path ever.
Easily the 2007 Giants they went into every single playoff game on the road and were completely written off by almost everyone then after all that they make it all the way to the Superbowl where they faced the 18-0 Patriots who were undefeated all season and were looking to become only the second team to go undefeated in the superbowl era with the superbowl pre game odds were about 14-1 underdogs but they actually did it they beat the Patriots thanks to a late 4th quarter drive by Eli Manning
Yeah fr fr they had it the hardest
The 07 Giants. Easily. They literally beat a perfect team.
I'd like this updated to see how the '23-'24 Chiefs Super Bowl ranks. They beat Miami in the frigid cold, then had to go on the road to beat the 2-seeded Bills, then on the road to beat the 1-seeded Ravens, then beat the 1-seeded 49ers, who were said to have arguably the best roster in the NFL.
The 2007 giants will forever be the greatest underdog in my mind. Defeating Romo, Farve & Brady without the benefit of a home game will never be topped.
Wether it’s the 1927 Yankees, the 1996 bulls or the 1977 Canadians. No team was as dominant in pro sports history like the 2007 pats.
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I mean I have to naturally stick with the wildcard team that beat an undefeated dynasty team with the greatest head coach of all time overseeing a top 5 shutdown defense riddled with all pros and hall of famers, lead by the greatest QB ever and the most dominant WR ever having their best seasons, setting all time records as they torched every team the faced up until the SB. Like, take a handful of those aspects and it's probably tbe most impressive win, but all of those? Literally crazier than the US beating Russia in 1980 in the Miracle On Ice
just remember: the '76 steelers had one of the greatest defenses ever and for the whole season, most of their starters were injured on the offensive side of the ball. Without those injuries, they would have 7 rings
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I think ignoring the raw data about this stat, the 2011 Giants SB run is probably the toughest considering 1) they had to beat both Rodgers and Brady to win that championship and 2) let’s face it, on paper that Giants team was nowhere near as good as any team they played in the playoffs, but they still pulled it off.
That 2011 giants team was the worst team to win omg its like the teams were just giving them the wins
The 2011 Giants are, statistically speaking, the worst team to ever win a Super Bowl. That was a fun, but also frustrating, season lmao.
@@skakirask yes 😂
@@skakirask the patriots just game them that win
I didn’t even know roughing the passer existed as a penalty in 1976 hahaha
I immediately hit the subscribe button when you said “ok you saw the title lets not waste time”. Love it
The fact that the Giants beat the unbeaten Patriots who happened to be the best NFL team assembled together would put them at #1 for me
Im a broncos fan, have been for 30 years, and i still say the 07 giants win this catagory. Going away every game as underdogs, and winning them all is a feat man
This is easily the Giants. Beat the 13-3 Cowboys in Dallas, beat the 13-3 Packers in Green Bay in literally some of the worst conditions in NFL history, then beat the 18-0 Patriots led by the unanimous GOAT during his peak season. Seriously, it's not even close lol.
I really think the 2013 Seahawks are the best team in NFL history. I've never seen a team do what they did. Their defense was so good that they had two offenses, it was nuts.
Ya , in last 25 years.98 Broncos, and 13 Hawks are best teams in football, also 04 Pats.
The 49ers almost beat them too.
@@danielfletcher8491 and? almost doesnt get you rings
That’s pure disrespectful delusion right there. There are far better Super Bowl teams than the 2013 Seagulls:
72 Dolphins were better
75 Steelers were better
84 49ers were better
85 Bears were better
89 49ers were better
93 Cowboys were better
02 Bucs were better
ETC.
@@LEBUMCHOKEDIN6FINALS literally all different eras with different discretion on what is and isnt legal. In more than half of those teams listed the league wasnt even anywhere near the athletic capacity in the modern game. You probably werent even alive either!
2004 Patriots beat 12-4 Manning led Colts, then a juggernaut 15-1 Steelers team, THEN 13-3 Eagles in the SB. Eagles team that had been to 4 straight Conference Championships and added an unguardable TO for that season.
Eagles played a broken legged T.O. In that Super Bowl would've been nuts had he been healthy
@@KingEaglez29 Hw would've probably been MVP is they won. He DOMINATED that game.
I hate the Eagles but the 2017 Eagles to beat the 2017 Patriots is one of most impressive wins I’ve ever seen. The 07 Giants is still probably the hardest Super Bowl win
Man, the fact that the Vikings were mentioned twice, and mostly being favorites to win it all. They came up short. As a Vikings fan, it just hurts my soul.
I never would have guessed Denver and Seattle being in the top 4 of difficult scheduled. probably because both were the best teams of that year however denver socre would have been bigger had they beaten then 15-1 much better vikings
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You should add all the numbers up to make a total. Teams that didn’t have a first round bye should be ranked as harder as they had to play one more game.
Well, the LOB actually had 13 players pop for PED's and even as I watched the game, they would get away with a lot of DPI and holding on offense. That, and the 49ers game was rigged. There were multiple possessions where penalties were missed that would've swung possessions in the 49ers favor, like the roughing the kicker, DPI again, and more uncalled holding for the Seahawks. They were talented and definitely steam rolled teams, but they juiced so it drops the respect meter for me. Same goes for any 70's steelers rings
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Crazy how the best offense and defense of all time happened in the same year, and both teams went to the super bowl.
Enjoyed this video TubFrog. Looks like a lot of research time went into it!
The 2012 Ravens beat Manning and Brady in their house, in the same postseason…and won the SuperBowl. Literally no one in history can say that!!
I don’t think people realize how good that Seahawks team in 2013 was. The Saints, Niners, and Broncos were all damn good that year and probably would have won a title in any different year with how good they were. Seattle beat them all.
I find interesting that only 3 of the top 10 teams on the list of hardest superbowl winners are NFC teams. This implies that the path to the superbowl through the playoff is harder for AFC teams because there are more diificult teams on the AFC side to face in the playoffs with higher average SRS. This is even more supported when you consider that two of the NFC teams in the top 10 are the giants teams who faced the patriots in the superbowl and the patriots extremely high SRS both times probably significantly weighted the giants final average opponent SRS.
I think this stems from the fact that historically the NFC is usually more balanced out and the AFC has been top heavy, meaning the AFC teams usually have higher SRS's from the regular season. Also there are 4 NFC teams in the top 10, the '92 Cowboys are at 7.
The AFC is a much easier conference than the NFC. for literally 2 decades every year they sent either tom brady, peyton or rothlisberger to the super bowl. the worst teams are in the AFC the worst division is in the AFC. the all time win loss of AFC teams playing against NFC is below 500. In the 80s the AFC lost the super bowl 13 times in a row. In the 60s the NFL stole all the top talent for the AFL which is why the colts, packers, cowboys were the only true professional teams-- AFC teams in the 60s were like college teams
@@d00d22 yes and only now the afc is the more talented division overall
@@jeefneef9307 NFC won two SB’s straight. Could be 3 soon ?👀
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We lost out on way could have been the most action oriented super bowl of our lives in the '98 season. Minnesota fell to Atlanta and we got blowout. What could have been...
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Updated Rankings:
2022 Chiefs:
SRS score: 5.06 (above 81 49ers, below 83 Raiders (36th out of 53)
2023 Chiefs:
SRS score: 11.93 (1st out of 54)
I’m an old man that saw the games at the top of your list. I like the video. You do a great job. Stop saying “of all time” about everything. 😂
But great video, maybe the best of all time….
I’ll forever hate the Seattle Seahawks for how that game was rigged against the 49ers.
The cardinals were so good that they didn’t even make this list 😢😢😢😢😢😢
When the Skins win a championship, everybody sees it coming. When the broncos win one, it's a gauntlet (though the 2nd one back to back I seen to remember being a pretty easy run)
I agree that it's hard to tell the WHOLE story. Think of those one-ring-only teams. They often don't have these long dynasties, "prestige" or other non-statistic places. Having more road games is also an excellent measurement. I love that there's a lot of story telling to be had in these history games, it really adds to the allure of this form of entertainment.
I believe the 1990 New York Giants deserve to be in the conversation
Defeating 18-0 🤔 as a wild card team
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Coming back being down 28-3 midway through the 3rd Quarter is the most improbable Superbowl victory of all time.
The Giants Super Bowl is right there and so is Seattle but yeah, the way you broke it down. It makes a lot of sense that the Raiders is the toughest Super Bowl. I mean those teams were all time all time that the Raiders had to play. Let’s give them their respect, playing so high up to competition that they actually wonit all and of course John Madden the coach
VERY surprised 2012 Ravens weren't higher, played tom brady and peyton manning on the road, and played a pretty good 49ers team I dont know too much about
07 Giants
Wait....2013 Seahawks? The Legion of Boom? The second most dominant defense since the turn of the millennium? Before watching, I'mma need explanation lmao. Especially seeing the 2010 Packers and 2012 Ravens not being high much at all.
The 2012 Ravens are low because they faced a SHITTY Colts team in the wild card round. Other than that, yeah, they faced an absolute gauntlet of a schedule in the post season.
I refuse to believe that the 2019 Chiefs is ranked so low when they came back from multi-score deficits in every single postseason game and finished with a 12-4 record in a tough ass AFC.
Bro playing bad against mid teams and then having to claw yourself out of holes doesnt mean those mid teams are better than they are. They just played down to competiton and then the 49ers were legit.
The First & 2nd Super Bowl champions the Green Bay Packers have the hardest run to a Super Bowl with their first run being a 16.24 SRS (Beat the Cowboys and Chiefs) and a WHOPPING 21.586 repeating for ring #2 (Beat the Rams, Cowboys, and Raiders)
Those are the total scores, Tubfrog divided by the number of games to get an average SRS score
Both of those runs are very respectable and certainly top 5 in difficulty. They aren’t quite the hardest though.
I’m Steelers fan but the 2012 ravens was a run to see beating colts , broncos , and patriots
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I’ve always felt that the 2008 Steelers were one of the biggest SB winner question marks. First off, as Barry McCockiner has repeatedly brought up, Pittsburgh never beat Brady’s Pats in the playoffs and they didn’t have to play him that year. But beside that, they actually didn’t beat a single first-round bye team that entire year, not even in the playoffs. It’s taking nothing away from the Cardinals for getting to the Super Bowl that year, but they only had a 9-7 record. To me, that’s not enough of a challenge to prove yourself as the undoubted best team of the year.
Then someone else should have made and won the Super Bowl, u can’t get mad at a team for beating whose in front of them
@@bp4016 I’m just saying that to me, they didn’t face as much of a challenge as they could have. The Cardinals’ defense was among the worst in the league that year, and a much better one may have prevented that game-winning drive. Think about the AFC Championship game: the Ravens had a great defense too and only allowed Pittsburgh’s offense to score one touchdown. The game was close the entire time, and it was Polamalu who had to step up and make the play to shift the tide. Yes, they handled the competition they faced, but they did get somewhat fortunate while doing it.
Dude skipped the ‘07 giants like we wanted to hear about any other team 😂
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I don't think the average SRS is a good determiner of how hard their schedule was, because a team with a first round bye who plays 3 really good teams will have a higher AVERAGE than a team who plays a decent team in the wild card round and then 3 really good teams, but the wild card team who had to play 4 games, including beating a playoff team just to get to where the first team started, obviously had a harder playoff run
80 Raiders , 97 Broncos, 01 Patroits, 07 Giants, and 05 Steelers top 5 hardest ways to when the Super Bowl.
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Giants did that they ran thru the gauntlet of the best of the best in their prime even ruined the perfect season
The 2013 Seattle Seahawks were a Category 5 super team.
The pictures you used for players had me dead. Great video!
I feel like this was your best video yet. I like how you gave a solid argument for each of the teams and honestly I think the Goat Himself Eli had the hardest in my opinion. Side note I’m pretty sure Joe Namath got high one time, ended up summoning satan himself and then sold his soul for the Super Bowl win while Also selling any possible future or happiness for the jets franchise
Easily the 2017 eagles. Backup QB, 2nd year coach against a tough falcons team, elite Vikings defense (embarrassed them 38-7) then won probably the most epic shootout of all time against the Patriots dynasty in the Super Bowl. World was against them and they still came out on top
Umm, no. 2017 Eagles were the NFC's top seed with a first-round bye and home field advantage throughout the playoffs. And held that great aging Patriots team to 33 points.
The wildcard 2007 Giants played every game on the road and beat the #4-seed (at Tampa), #1-seed (at Dallas) and #2-seed (at Green Bay in -23 degree weather). Then they beat the 18-0 Patriot juggernaut - holding them to 14 points.
The wildcard road warrior Giants (10-1 on the road that year) had an infinitely tougher road to their Super Bowl than the #1-seed 2017 Eagles.
07 Giants or 2018 Eagles for the same exact reason, no one thought either team stood a chance against the Patriots… Underdogs for the win!!!
I remember the Denver vs Seattle super bowl game, there was a special going on at the bar I was watching it at, for every touchdown there was a special shot served for the specific team that scored, we got hammered on Seahawks shots 😂
The 2004 Pats mean playoff opponent SRS, subtracting the Eagles week 16:17 losses and the Colts week 17 loss where they rested their starters was roughly 10.57 defeating the *12-3 Colts, *13-1 Eagles and 15-1 Steelers.
2004 Patriots and 2012 Ravens deserve have a case also.
2004 Patriots beat MVP Peyton Manning’s Colts with the best offense in the league, beat the 15-1 Steelers on the road, and then a 13-3 Eagles team in the Super Bowl.
2012 Ravens dominated the Colts in Andrew Luck’s first year, then went on the road to Denver and beat the 13-3 Broncos led by Peyton Manning, then outscored the Patriots 21-0 in the second half of the AFC Championship, giving Brady his only home AFC Championship loss, and then beat a very talented 49ers team in the Super Bowl.
Interesting vid. How do you account for statical probability of winning. Like if you have a 50/50 chance of winning a game, then just by playing an extra game, your probability goes way down. But, I like how you rate the avg of the road to the super bowl
The hardest Super Bowl I could design would be a 7 seed beating the 4 best teams in the league in close games. 2nd seed in the wild card, 1st seed in the divisional, 3rd seed/5th seed (depending on division locations) in the CC, 1st seed in the Super Bowl.
So in our year, it would be the Lions beating the 49ers, Eagles, Cowboys, then the Chiefs for a ring. Winning all close games where they’d probably be big underdogs.
Bonus points if the 4 teams were extremely talented relative to other years. So you’d be the regular season runt in a top heavy conference, then face down the undisputed best team in the other conference in the Super Bowl.
Ironically close games are more difficult than blowouts, since in blowouts you are supposed to take the foot off the gas and play conservative to finish. If the game is a brawl from kickoff to 0:00, you have to play extremely aggressive the whole time, which is more difficult.
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damn it literally seems like the more future hall of famers, pro bowlers, and all pros you have, the more likely you are to win the super bowl
I’d give it to teams that barely even made the playoffs yet won it all.
I love the SpongeBob music in the background and great vid!! Personally I’d love to say the 07 giants
It’s the 07 Giants and that is where the discussion should end.
I think the '24 Chiefs might come close.
Raiders…everyone one and more. Tuck rule, immaculate reception, phantom whistle…etc …plus I think Jay Schroeder was drugged by the nfl when he threw 7 picks against the bills….
crazy how arguably the best defense of all time went up against arguably the best offense of all time and played against each other in the superbowl... Those two teams were something special. Go Hawks!
6:05 “Dirty Birds” led by Jamaal Anderson.
Russel Wilson with tiger woods pic? Lol
As for the 2016 Pats coming into the SB the Atlanta Falcons were a top 10 All time Offense and the New England Patriots were missing Gronk aka there great TE Weapon
Why aren’t the 2017 eagles getting mentioned? They had to play the entire post season with a journey man back up and with mostly a rag tag team of disposable players
Has to be the Eagles facing a peak Brady who threw for over 500 yards
Surprised the 2020 Bucs wasn’t higher considering the road to the title
I gota say the 2017 eagles they lose their starting QB plus all the other crazy injuries and then out performing Brady and belicheck. Truly a Cinderella story.
The 76 Raiders don’t get enough respect.
Definitely the 2013 Seahawks
Edit: WAIT THEY ARE SECOND HOW
I love data and statistics based lists like this. While obviously, objectively, we know there are more factors into what makes a playoff run harder or easier than others, stats aren't objective. They are concrete. So whether you take this list as a standalone gospel and quote it, or use it as a basis to put perspective on your own analysis, it is a very useful compiling of data that makes for a very well put together video.
Thank you for making it.
Maaaaan this was a great video
Has to be the 07 Giants for me. Beat probably the best Cowboys team since mid 90s, beat Favre in GB in -20F weather, then beat the undefeated Pats, all narrow victories.
@11:16 I remember watching this game with my dad and saying, “this is gonna be a rough game.” And my dad said “I agree, I think this is the Super Bowl right here.” I was devastated when the niners lost, I still go into convulsions when I hear anyone talk about it.
Hearing about good Bronco's football is so depressing right now