16 Cylinder 645 E7 EMD diesel Boneyard to Dyno
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- Опубликовано: 16 дек 2016
- Short picture slide show of build and short video on Dyno. Engine built at Mikes INC and Dyno tested at National Maintenance. This engine dyno tested at 900 RPM and produced 3,207 HP.
Thanks for watching and please Subscribe. I have a video of a 12 cyl running @ 350 RPM in a towboat if you want to check it out • 12 cyl EMD 645 E7B RUN...
This is one of the few engine designs that a fella can base an entire career on maintaining and repairing all the way from apprentice to master mechanic to retirement. They’ve been around for decades and will continue on for decades to come. I started my career in the offshore drilling industry with a triplet of 12 cylinder 645 E8’s that were manufactured in the late 1970’s. Good times learning the odd firing old 12 cylinders. Eventually I had quad 16’s in my engine room. These old EMD’s are some of the toughest, load living engines ever produced.
The 567 really paved the way for great progress from EMD. If something goes wrong, the engine shuts itself down before anything "hits the fan".
One thing is for sure, with the engine over speed trip system these babies have, you won't see a runaway happen. Heard a story once about and engine that would start rough and then shut down because one side of the overspeed sensor was out of alignment with the cams on its side.
Solution was to crank the engine over with the overspeed reset lever held in the reset position until they lined up again, she purred like a kitten.
What a robust machine.
Rated in a locomotive at 3000 horsepower for traction.
Ran many locomotives using this engine, the extra horsepower is used by the accessories to run the engine auxiliary generator water pumps, air compressor etc.
Every solid reliable engines.
As a locomotive fireman we got a alarm bell 10 minutes after leaving the yard headed west. Couldn't find anything wrong when I walked back through the power 4 units SD40-2's ( 6 axle locomotives) the unit I was on went to idle and the hot engine light came on in the cab, looked her over and found the control wire for the third 48 inch cooling fan had fallen out of the thermostat and after reinserting it the fan cam back to life but the spring loaded lock ring was broken. Seeing as we climbing the mountain we needed the engine so stayed inside the engine hood holding the plug in the thermostat to keep the engine online. Next trip I brought my shooting ear protectors along! That was a loud trip up the mountain.
Hi James, That's an awesome story and very interesting. I have done a little locomotive engine work but mainly on towboats and the marine side. This is a great diesel engine and takes a lot of abuse. Thanks for sharing pretty cool in my book. Have a great Sunday !
and a soldering iron...
I love to hear one of these without a silencer under full load
Hi WARD5KUSTOMZ, we use to run these in the shop before we sent them to the dyno. They sounded pretty cool and would smoke the shop out...lol.. Thanks for the view and have a great weekend.
Nice to see that engine fixed up and running. I worked for CP Rail maintaining mostly EMD locomotives for 33 years. The SD40-2 is a great locomotive. Reliable and good to work on. I will always remember them screaming at full throttle under load using the stationary load test feature. A great noise!
Paul Smith
Hi Paul, that is great story and they do sound great when they are hooked up at full load. That is the best part of the job is listen to them run after you have fixed a failure. Thanks for the comment and have a great day !
On a slightly different topic, we also maintained the SD90MAC fleet for CP. One of the strangest experiences in my railway career was opening the hood doors on an EMD locomotive and seeing the 4 stroke "H" engine inside. EMD has been building 2 stroke diesels since they started many years ago. Even inside the shop, you knew when they were load testing a 6000HP "H" engine. you could feel the ground shake!
Paul
40 years operating EMD’s. The SD-40-2 is my favorite.
Forty one years of marine EMD's here; love the eights and the sixteens; smooth running, reliable and pretty easy to work on for a big engine. :-)
Pure junk. Never had one load while in a consist. The SD/GP40s were good power, but the rest - good riddance. When we got the AC44s here on the Soo Line, they put everything else to shame. Never once had one go belly up.
Looks, and sounds, a lot like the twin 16-cylinder EMD engines that powered the offshore oil service supply vessel I worked on in the Java Sea in Indonesia in 1975, the MV Challenge, owned and operated by Offshore Logistics, on lease to Arco in the Ardjuna field off the northeast coast of Java. Challenge was one of the few boats in that field that had the power to tow wildcatting jackup rigs from one location to another in the field. One of the rigs we worked was called the Earle Rowe. Our engineer was very proud of those engines; he told me that they were otherwise used as locomotive engines. I salute the dedicated men and women of the offshore oil industry I had the honor to work with that year, and again in 1978 in the Gulf of Mexico!
That's a great story Geoffrey My hat goes off to the men and women in the offshore service. I have talked to some people in that field and can be a rough and rewarding job. I work with the inland waters and this engine can take some abuse. Thanks for your story Geoffrey and have a great day !
Served my Apprenticeship on EMD's . Simplicity and brilliance in one package.
This is a great engine, very tough and can take a lot of abuse. Thanks for the view and have a great week !
Hahaha this is crazy, I looked up this engine on RUclips to find a video of it running and I stumble across this one. I thought I recognize that guy that was working on the engine, just to look at the description into realize that is him. I worked with that guy in South Texas on a boat, and he told me he was the EMD mechanic for Mike Inc. Small world, Bobby is a bad mother fucker too I wish I could work with him more.
I worked on a 1000' long Great Lakes ore carrier that had 4 20-645-E7's. Love the EMD's they soldier on. I worked another ship with 2 Pielstick (Pig Stick) 16 cylinders and they were a hassle. Also sailed a ship with 2 Alco 16-251's which acted like standard Alcos. And a tug with a pair of 12-278a Clevelands. The museum ship I volunteer on has an old Superior Gen Set on it. Great video.
That's pretty cool roundthirteen, back in the 90's we did some overhauls in Ohio for Ogelbay Norton that had 2 ,16 cylinder Alco and we did walk through one 1000 footer that had the 4 20 cylinder EMD it was pretty impressive. Thanks for the comment and have a great week.
@@bigronshobbies8209 Hah I probably sailed that ONCO with the ALCO, I worked on the Earl W. Oglebay, now the Manitowoc. The 1000 footer with the EMD's was the Burns Harbor.
Perfect engine for a custom heavy rig, got the power, sound, reliability, i won’t be long putting one of these in my new project
These are great engines that take a lot abuse. Have a great weekend.
those 2stroke diesels have a very unique sound going up the Cajon pass in the winter time after it rained
Hi Strven, I live close to the Rail Road tracks and I can tell when this engine comes through. I love the sound when they throttle up ! Have a great weekend !
Cool back in 97 we boarded the 144 ft RIVTOW CAPT.BOB power from twin EMD's near 7000 BHP Thank you for the look see Cheers BR
Thanks Canada, these engines take a lot of abuse. Have a Merry Christmas. : ))
... we are using such diesel engines sometimes as emergency power supply unit in large buildings or buildings where it is needed... but this engine is a really big on... really amazing... thats definitely cool stuff Ron... thank you so much for sharing my friend ;))) ... I wish you and your lovely assistant a very nice sunday ;)
Thanks Michael, that is great this engine will go in a towboat and is a common engine in a locomotive. Have a great week to you and your assistant. : ))
BEST VIDEO ON RUclips FOR THIS EMD TYPE ENGINE. THANKS FOR PUTTING THIS OUT.
Thanks
SEYMOUR SCAGNETTI , have a great weekend !
Love the old EMD 2-strokes. Those monsters sound amazing. Glad that Mikes is putting these back together. They make a glorious noise espeically pulling mixed freight trains.
Thanks for the view Shane. I live close to the train tracks and can hear them coming a mile away. Have a great Sunday !
A real beast of an engine Ron! very nice, thanks for sharing buddy😁👍👍
Thanks PrelRude, its a pretty tough engine. Have a great Christmas. : ))
Hey Ron, that thing is huge!!!!! Wow.. and, may you and Paivi have a Merry Christmas!!!! Thanks for all the awesome videos!!!! Best gifts ever!!
Hey Thanks Gregory and a big Merry Christmas to you and your wife !!!!!
Great video, my friend! - We welcome you!
Great Video, Love theses engines!
Thanks for stopping by, these engines take a lot of abuse and keep going !
welp boys we gotta figure out how to get this in the miata.
I think it will be a close fit..lol.... Have a great weekend.
Thanks for the great video.👍
Thanks for the view Morizou. : ))
Great stuff, Ron - you are getting really fancy with the titles! LOL. That is one fine engine. Have a good week
Hey thanks Rob, Its all about having fun...LOL.... Have a great Christmas. : ))
If one of these would happen to run away there would be some massive iron in motion!
Wow that's a engine. Nice
Thanks Steve, when you stand next to @ 900 RPM it sounds sweet.
I worked around and the outside of a local paper mill and the sound of an E.M.D. would make the hair stand up on my head. N/S hauling coal and flax in and swapping cars around. Never forget it. And I like the old Jimmy/Detroits too, the little brothers.
wow, what massive braided steel lines. sticking out of the cooling system on the dyno. lol didnt know they made em that big!
Hi Mike, they are some pretty big lines. I would hate to be standing next to it if it let loose..lol… Have a great week !
After looking at the crankshaft laying on the shop floor then know that it will turn at 15 times per second under load. That is totally awesome. Under full load in a long train this engine will use about 160 gallons of fuel an hour.
Thanks for the view Robert, around here the trains use 3 engines. I'm glad I don't have to pay the fuel bill....lol..... Have a great day !
Hi. Thanks.. our dear Friend!!! Wonderful... very nice video,kisses !!!
Interesting stuff!
Thanks Bowzer, have a great week. : )
16-645E7, an updated Marine version of the venerable 16-645E3 found in most second generation EMD locomotives.
This is true Keith, thanks to the EPA a lot of people are updating to the 710 EMD electronic to meet the tier group. locomotive and the marine side. Have a great Sunday !
Good day. Do you have a document where I could watch the piston´s of this machine? I need to study.
Hello. What tool do you use to install the front and rear frame of the emd engine? Please send me the video.
Hey Big Ron, I see you started the engine with one Air starter, but there are two present? What's the second one for? Do you have any videos of re-manufacturing the air starter?
THIS ENGINE IS SUPER TUFF.
Hi Thetrucky69, These are awesome engines and take a lot of abuse. Thanks for the view and comment, have a great week !
@@bigronshobbies8209 that's right these engines are real heavy duty. Built to work hard. Thanks mate. Cheers 👍
Sounds like a quiet F40C.
LOL !!
IT IT APPEARS THAT THE DYNO IS MADE OF AN GENERAL ELECTRIC TRACTION ALTERNATOR!!
IIS IT??
ENJOYED VIDEO, MUCH OF MY AT&SF RR CARREER WAS TROUBLE SHOOTING AND LOAD TESTING!!
KEEP THEM ROLLING BROTHERS!!👍👍
Hey thanks ROSS Bryan6, yes sir and it runs through a load bank and they can slowly put a heavy load on the engine, it works great. I bet you have seen some interesting situations. Stay safe and have a great weekend !
Big Rons Hobbies THE TWO MOST MEMORABLE LOAD TESTS WAS A SD-45 EMD AND A ALCO RSD-15
ALLIGATOR!
THE EMD HAD A NEW TURBO INSTALLED AND WAS SET OUT OF THE SHOP AND HOOKED TO THE LOAD BOX, READY FOR LOADING!
I CHECKED OIL AND WATER AND THE USUAL ITEMS AND STARTED NOTCHING HER UP 1 NOTCH EVERY 10 MINUTES!
ALL WENT WELL NOTCH 1 THROUGH 7!
WHEN I NOTCHED INTO 8 SHE CAME OFF THE GEARTRAIN
AND STARTED TO SPOOL OFF OF THE TURBO ALONE!
15 SECONDS LATER I HEARD A LOUD BOOM COME FROM THE ENGINE ROOM, AND THEN STARTED BREATHING A 60 FOOT
FLAME OUT OF THE STACK!
I THEN SHUT THE THROTTLE DOWN BUT THE ENGINE CONTINUED TO RUN AND WAS GOING INTO OVERSPEED.
IT WASNT BEGINNING TO SLOW DOWN SO I KILLED THE FUEL PUMP BREAKER AND THEN SHE SLOWED AND DIED!
A HEAVY GRAY SMOKE CAME OUT OF THE EXHAUST STACK AND
THE FILTER ROOM.
THEN WE NOTICED THAT THE GRAY PAINT ON THE AIR BOX WAS TURNING BROWN!
WE LET HER SET AND COOK
FOR A WHILE, THE WE OPENED THE AIR BOX AND SAW THERE WAS A LOT OF CARBON GOO IN THERE AND IT HAD CAUGHT ON FIRE AND APPARENTLY FED THE OVERSPEED INCIDENT.
THEN WE PULLED THE PAPER FILTERS OUT AND SAW THE AIR INLET IMPELLER WAS TORE UP.
WE ALSO FOUND MORE IMPELLER PARTS IN THE AIR FILTERS, BUT THERE WERE MORE PIECES THAT WERE UN ACCOUNTED FOR!
WE THEN LOOKED AT THE ORIGINAL TURBO AND SAW THE IMPELLER CAME APART ON IT
AND SPIT THE PIECES INTO THE FILTER BOX WHICH DESTROYED THE NEW TURBO!
AFTER THAT THE WORKSHEET FOR EMD TURBO CHANGES REQUIRED THAT THE FILTERS WERE TO BE CHANGED ALWAYS
WHEN THE TURBO IS REPLACED!
THE ALCO LOAD TEST WAS ALSO FOR A TURBO CHANGE!
THE 9847 WAS PROBABLY THE LAST ONE TO GET A TURBO CHANGE AT ARGENTINE SHOPS!
WITHIN A YEAR THEY WERE ALL SOLD!
I STARTED THE LOAD TEST , AND NOTCHED UP AS USUAL AND SHE DID FINE, JUMPING INTO THE NEXT NOTCH AND GRABBING THE HORSE POWER!
I ALSO NOTICED THE TURBO WAS SPOOLING UP MUCH BETTER WITH LITTLE SMOKE, THAN THE PREVIOUS ALCOS!
I STEPPED INTO NOTCH 8,
LET HER RUN FOR ABOUT THIRTY SECONDS THEN STARTED TO LOOK AT THE OIL PRESSURES AND TEMP READINGS!
I THEN HEARD THE EXHAUST STACK TALKING LIKE NO OTHER
251-16 I EVER HEARD BEFORE OR SINCE!!
I HEARD THE LOAD BOX SCREAM LIKE A BANSHEE, AND THEN I SAW THE LOAD GRIDS WERE A VERY BRIGHT PINK COLOR!
I RAN TO THE CAB AND BROUGHT HER DOWN , AND MANAGED TO GET A QUICK LOOK AT THE VOLT AND AMMETER READINGS!
FIGURING HORSE POWER I CAME UP WITH 4000 HP!!
NOT BAD FOR A 2500 HP LOCOMOTIVE!!
AN ELECTRICIAN WAS CALLED
TO CHECK THE EXITATION
SETTINGS AND WE FOUND THAT SOMEONE HAD JIMMIED WITH THE HORSE POWER RHEOSTATS
TO TRY AND GET HORSE POWER WITH A BAD TURBO!
THE MOST BAD ASS LOCOMOTIVE
I EVER LOAD TESTED WAS THE SANTA FE 5855, SD 45-2 WHICH
WAS REBUILT IN 1988 WITH AN CATERPILLAR 3612 ENGINE GOOD FOR 5000 HP!
THE NGINE WAS DERATED TO 4300 HORSE POWER TO ACCOMODATE THE EMD ALTERNATOR AND TRACTION MOTORS!
THE CAT ENGINE MAKING 4300 HP MADE 15 % BETTER FUEL MILEAGE THAN A 645-20 CRANKING A MEASLY 3600
HP AT 180 GALLONS PER HOUR!
THEY DID CUT THE HORSE POWER OF THE CAT BACK TO 3900 HP TO ACCOMMODATE THE ABILITIES OF THE EMD TRACTION MOTORS AND ALTERNATOR!
IF I HAD THE SAY , I WOULD HAVE USED G-E TRACTION ALTERNATOR
AND 752 -EF MOTORS AND LEFT HER AT 4300 HP!
KEEP THEM ROLLING BROTHERS!!
👍👍
Wow them are some great adventures for sure and make the heart rate pick up....lol.... I haven't worked on an 251 Alco in about 10 years, I thought that engine sounded awesome and they were money makers for us out of town because they took twice as long to overhaul than an EMD but thanks to the EPA, Alco and EMD struggle where Cat is getting better emissions.
Great job
Thanks bonkey, one day I will hopefully soon I will get some video of this engine start and run in a towboat.
Big Rons Hobbies would love to see it thanks
good Job! Voice of engine says that it is not under load!
Hi Mohammad, the engine was under load but it sounds different in a building and the way the exhaust was run out of the building. Have a great Sunday !
wow ! Is crossplane
Big Ron.... Thank you for the posting of this video. The EMD design was and is, without doubt - Timeless. It was and is the "cleanest" and most reliable design EVER, in the history of diesel engines... and especially in it's own class of medium speed engines. As you probably know, Cat has dropped the 710G prime mover from its locomotive line-up for the US, effective this year(2017).... and has replaced it with its new politically correct "1010" 4 cycle prime mover.... which sounds and looks (from the few pictures I've seen of it) an awful lot like the Deutz prime mover used in GE's locomotives.
Fortunately, EMD is still the Largest builder of locomotives... Globally, with overseas sales Far in excess of GE... and to date, last time I checked (in May).... NONE of the railroads from Any country outside of the US (not sure about Canada, though) have placed orders for locomotives with the "new" 4 cycle "1010" engine (I'm willing to bet, that under the EMD gray paint, lurks CAT Yellow!!).... All of them are opting for the time proven reliability of the 710 Series, 2 cycle prime movers... Thank God for That, at least.
At the stated 3,207 hp.... what size injectors were being used?
I find it interesting and ironic at the same time... that in the world of Large, high output, Low speed class diesel engines... especially with outputs of 50.000 HP and above.... that they are ALL - 2 cycle !!.... especially, in Marine use. Thanks again for this great video, much appreciated.
2Stroke Diesel Power GE does not use Deutz engines. The U series through the Dash-9 used the FDL prime movers, the Evolution series uses the GEVO v12 prime mover
This engine would make more power if they insulated the exhaust manifold. The backstop screw is probably backed out all the in the governor. It should be set to about 0.96 inches. Moran Towing put external rack stops on their tugs engines probably to change it with the seasons with less fuel in winter and more fuel in the summer. Tugs can measure relative power by pushing against a dock or a bridge abutment (got in trouble with that once ) this overloads the engine and you adjust the backstop seasonally. On EMD peaking generator engine their is two positions that are adjusted seasonally.
very simple but tough
Neat video.
Thanks Marchchindy, Have a great Sunday !
Big Rons Hobbies you too sir and thanks for subscribing..
Got a fake go pro so I can do some decent videos this summer.
Good thing you captured the audio with a Potato 500R
Bahaaaaaaaaa that's funny Lewis, But I hate to say it but the audio on the patato 500R was spot on. This engine was running at 900 RPM and is a medium speed engine and it was running in a building and the Exhaust is piped outside you hear the turbo more than anything. Wished it sounded more like a drag car but it doesn't . Have a great day !
Here's one of my favorite videos getting a pretty good rumble of a 645 on a SD40-2. The camera captures the low frequency rumble pretty well.
ruclips.net/video/PUAgmoO4q5I/видео.html
peak torque?
Thanks for this video. Would notch 8 on a loco be ~900 RPM ?
Hi Farley, In notch 8 should be at 900 RPM. Sorry for the late reply. Have a great week !
Did this go in a tug?
Hello, Is Mikes INC a subsidiary of EMD? or independent manufacturing and supplying to EMD?
Hi Talha Mir, we are just an independent diesel repair shop in Mid West US. We rebuild parts and engines for marine and locomotive companies. We only buy parts from EMD.
That's pretty impressive. I know squat about engines but 900 rpm seems so slow and producing 3200 rpm ...wow!
Hi Mike, this is a medium speed engine if it run any faster it would fly apart. Have a great week and a safe flight. : ))
905 RPM is the end of the world for these things. Much more and the massive reciprocating assemblies will come to see you.
How many PSI or Bar of boost do these engines run on at full throttle?
Hi Jon, at 900 RPM average around 15 psi.
Back up take a look at the crankshaft that goes in this engine. The crank will turn 15 turns per second at 900 rpm.
Hi Robert, and think about all the iron going up and down and it stays together most of the time..lol… thanks for stopping by and have a great week.
Back in the day, one of my mom's uncles ran the forge that struck cranks for EMD.
Looks interesting! What was your role in this project / work?
Hi Ulla, This is the diesel engine I work on. : ))
Wow! 900 rpm , 3,000+ hp
Very Nice!
The angle of the cylinders is quite narrow. Is it 60 degrees? Or less?
Hi James, the cylinders set at a 45 degrees, it has a 9 1/16 inch bore and a 10 inch stroke. Thanks for the view and have a great week !
Big Ron with a Big Engine!!! Is this what you do for a living?? If not, how'd you get access to film this?? And if not, part 2, what do you do for a living?? Cuz I don't think we are gunna retire from making our RUclips videos... hehehe... I'm a city work for an east side suburb of Cleveland, Ohio :-) 25 years down, 5 to go :-)
LOL.. Thanks Ohio, I see no early retirement from You Tube....LOL... I have worked in this shop for 30 years and need at least 12 more, thanks Ohio now I'm depressed.....hehehehe..... Don't get road rage in that plow truck..lol.. Have a great Christmas. : ))
Which loco used it for many years?
Hi Fazakas Martin, This engine was built for marine install, to use it in a locomotive we would have to change the oil pan and some accessories. Sorry, not sure what model locomotive used this engine for a prime mover.
These engines are used in ship’s to!
Hi Phil, that's true and most of them are 20 cylinders, very dependable diesel engine. Thanks for the view and have a great weekend !
Hello Guys, can someone please explain the meaning of the Serial number and Model? I need to explain this to the insurance company. I have a EMD model: R20-645-E7 (meaning of R and E7? I know what is 20 & 645) and s/n: 75-k1-1103. Is 75 the manufacturing year? what is k1? Thanks in advance, I have not found any doc explaining these codes.
Hi Ricardo, the R is for right hand rotation E7 is turbo charged and application like drill rig or marine or generator and in the S/N K tells you the month EMD first built it ( A = January, B = February , and so on ) If you have a service manual it will be in the front. Hope this helps.
'Big Rons' thanks a lot for your quick response, and kind support. I appreciate it...
Skip I (H then J) for the serial number, that was never used, K would be the month of Oct, 75, the year, 1, the day, and I believe 1103 is the number of units built that year...
OMG that is a beautiful engine, never seen a piston that size thats insane!! That a tug boat engine??
Thanks Drone Connection, this will go in a towboat it is also a common engine in a locomotive. Have a great week. : )
Wow that's cool!
Piston = 9-1/16" Dia
710 series engine 9 1/16 diameter piston by 11 inch stroke. Nominal horsepower is 4300-4500 horsepower for a V16, in a V-20 turbocharged up to 5000 horsepower.
I used to rebuild these
That's great Yon, its a very tough engine and takes a lot of abuse. Have a great week !
We see the hp number... i can only imagine how high the torque number is....
Hi gooniac33, I think it is around 18,670 Foot pounds of torque at 900 RPM. Thanks for the view and have a great day !
Would this be a good engine in my daily?
Hi Ramboi, it would be perfect for road rage..lol… Thanks and have a good one !
@@bigronshobbies8209 I typically dont rage, it looks like a great daily to save on gas.
I was just having fun, this engine at full HP will use over 2,000 us gallons of diesel in 24 hours.
@@bigronshobbies8209 How much HP does it have?
This turbo engine will make around 3,200 HP 24 hours a day 7 days a week.
Where do you work to overhaul these?
Hi fiberrabit, our shop is in Illinois and we have a shipyard on the Mississippi river, at our main shop we build engines for locomotives, towboats, and ships. Their are no ships by me, these engines get sent out on tractor trailer.
Wow
Its a pretty tough engine. : ))
I'm sure I had a hand on building this unit when it was new....
That's pretty cool Michael, what I find amazing is the towboat companies I do work for are getting 45,000 hours out of them with just a couple pack changes.
Our units are in all sorts of things, tugs, buildings, ships all around the world. When GM owned EMD, they took pride in the product that was built, and made them to last! I retired after 40.5 years, unfortunately, it's not the same any more since it was sold.... :(
Looks a lot different than its 645E3 cousin in the SD40-2. Must be because it's not dropped into a boat or something ;) I find it interesting too that the 645E3 is rated at 3000 but the E7 is rated at an extra 200 ponies. Must be something to do with the turbo or something lol.
Hi SOU6900, the 645E 7B has a different piston and fuel injectors that brings up the horsepower. I think it is awesome that these engines push that much HP 24 hours a day 7 days a week. Thanks for the view and comment. Have a great week !
Thanks. You ever get a chance to mess with 567 engines?
I did when I first started about 30 years ago but on the marine side they are hard to fine. Thanks to the EPA a lot of the company are repowering to the electronic 710 they are meeting the tier group, the 12cylinder electronic 710 replaces 16 645 on horse power and I have not worked on one yet.
Big Rons Hobbies well I got a question that would be better suited for the forums at Trains.com but I still want to ask you any way. Do you know how emd increased the hp of the 12-567 when they changed from the B series to the C series without changing the max rpm, bore or stroke?
I will have to do some research but in the C series the liner had bigger ports for air intake and then we go back to a different crown on the piston and injectors and though they run the same blower the drive gear is not the same and lets the blower spin faster.
Hi, why not turn your phone around, would give us a much better view :)
Sorry it was just a quickie, and i was to busy working , i will try to do better next time.
NEED 4 TURBOS AND YA COULD GO ANYWHERE
Don't know if they could afford the diesel fuel....lol.... Have a great Sunday !
Makes your car motor seem like a toy . Most everything is electric drive now days . The motors just drive the gen .
Hi Spencer, this is true when its in a locomotive this engine is going in a boat and with clutch tires will tie into a gear box. There are boats where the engine drives the gen and then a motor but not in my area. : ))
NOT a "motor' guys . . that's an 'ENGINE' . . . motors are electrical.
So what's next
Put it in a jeep
Hi Dan, this wont fit in my Jeep but it is going in a good size boat. Have a great week.