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I really wish you did every sequoia RUclips vid. This was so easy to see what you’re doing. Thanks!
still trying to figure out where the balljoint failure was in this whole vid.
I would recommend blue loctite on the lower ball joint bolts stops them from backing out like then tend to do
I just purchased a mint condition mid 2004 Sequoia and was looking at replacing all my ball joints as just precautionary measure after hearing the high failure rate on them. I've noticed when looking around mine didn't look the same as the 2003 model ball joints and mine were more expensive. This video explains why. Thank you!
One of the best auto repair videos I’ve seen! Well filmed and very informative. Unfortunately, a little too late for me. My lower ball joint had a catastrophic failure and the wheel came off, fortunately at low speed. Get those ball joints checked!
How many miles at time of failure and what state?
@@oldowl4290I’ll guess the Midwest just judging from the offshore oil rig rust situation… I could never live in the rust belt. Worst part of the United States and absolutely decimates good cars. No thanks!
If the boot dissolves from power steering fluid, could happen any time, when grease is gone.
My 2000 tundra had the boot failure ,no lubes then snapped off when I was backing up slowly,my warning which I didn,t realize was the steering at slow speeds getting harder to turn the wheel...........
Same happen to me driver side lower ball joint snapped after making a left turn wheel pretty much went under the truck I was lucky as before the turn I was just on the highway going 65 they're pretty easy to replace went ahead and got them and a couple other components replaced
Toyota states that balljoints should be changed every 100k. I think that is just Toyota corp covering their asses, because nobody does that. I've ran into Toyota techs that aren't even good at diagnosing ball joint play. Even if it doesnt clunk you're supposed to use a dial indicator as per the FSM. Good callout on the size and lower bolt difference. The grade 11's are much beefier
Also, the lower ball joints are easy to replace. The upper is more of a pita
WHERE does it or They state that? i have a gen1 Tacoma and Have NEVER heard about that from them, just on taco forums
@@efil4kizum I read it on a Toyota corporate dealer website the other day.
@@efil4kizumthey don’t.
Overall it’s a bad design. They changed it thankfully on newer models. The problem is the ball joint is being pulled on instead of pushed so when your tire goes up it’s pulling down on the ball joint the direction the ball is pressed in, when the ball joint wears it can be pulled out of the socket causing failure and your tire flying off. The newer suspension pushes into the ball joint and they last twice as long and won’t fail like these
my 06 Tundra passenger lower ball joint just sheared off in a parking garage (during low speed tight right turn) 2 days ago. 230k miles I go offroading a few times a year, nothing to crazy, but rocky stuff that wears on the suspension.
SANKEI 555 made in Japan. They are the company who made the original Toyota ball joints. Toyota doesn’t make ball joints like any other auto manufacturer. They have a spec/recipe the aftermarket OEM suppliers follow. I prefer using only Japanese parts on my 4runner. No autoparts junk
I went with sankie i hope thats true
Just because they are an OEM supplier doesn't automatically mean that they are meeting OEM specs with their own branded products though just as a warning. That certainly is the case with some things like Denso but not all of them.
555 fails too.
@@rushthezeppelin my fear is the design of ball joint differs greatly from Toyotas design they may make Toyotas ball joints but that doesn’t mean it’s exactly the same
After 225,000 miles on my 3rd gen 4 Runner I replaced the upper and lower ball joints. There was hardly any play in any of them. Went with OEM. A bit more in price but it’s worth it to me. Same goes for when my steering rack needs to be replaced…… OEM.
If you flush the ATF and use Mobil 1 it will never need replacing. Unless the pump grenades and contaminates the system. Never seen that happen. These racks just never go bad. They leak because people are dumb and don’t ever replace the fluid.
Thanks for making this vid for us. I really appreciate it. I do recommend red threadlocker as mentioned by others. Wouldn't want those bolt to vibrate loose.
I have nearly 300k miles on my 03 Sequoia. I'm the original owner and have never changed the ball joints. But I've kept spare, new OEM ball joints/control arms in the 3rd row for the last 2 years. I guess I'll make the change soon. Thanks for the video!
I have an 03 Tundra. Toyota had a recall on the lower ball joints. Check with dealer before you do the job. You might get a free-be.
Did you get it recalled?
300k???!!! You are 100% playing with fire.. dancing with the devil.
I checked my records and discovered that the LBJs were replaced by Toyota at 50k miles. The replacement LBJs had 250k on it before I replaced it recently and were still good. The UBJs and control arm bushings are original with just over 300K miles. No issues. Pretty impressive.
@@nj2mddude205Same. 05 warrantied in 07 at 35k miles. I just replaced them at 235k miles and they were fine. I firmly believe that all of these horror stories are either non oem lbjs or originals that never got replaced 🤷♂️
Wow, fantastic video. Love how detailed it is, and props for the lighting too! Will check if the ball joints were ever replaced on my dad's 04 with 300k on it. Thanks!
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The video was good but, every toyota truck lower ball joint replacement (because theer was a safety recal for almost 10 years 95-2003 for every model Toyota truck) say to use OEM Toyota parts. Yes they are twice+ the cost of an after market, and he did not use original toyota parts. How I know is original Toyota ball joint replacements do not (and never had) grease fittings. They do not need them but I guess after market ones do.
I bought a tindra 00 a few months ago, the last owner gave it 0.0 maintenenace both low ball joints were only fitted with 2 of 4 bolts on base and main nut loose. Fortunately I detected this contidtion before a catastrophe happens, welding machine, WD-40 and M12X1.25 tapping tool were needed for this mission
13:51 You now let everything hang on your ABS/Speed Sensor...
Bungie Cords are your Friend! 😄👍
I peeped this too... Bad business lol
Don't wait tell its to late I lost my tire driving down the road. I bought the truck used with 380,000 miles on it. I found out it was already on its 3rd set of ball joints the dealer replaced the last ones under the recall but it still didn't matter. So OEM for lower with freedom offroad upper control arms with 36mm uniballs I haven't had an issue with those yet. But now my wheel bearings are shot. The truck came with 33s when I bought it and I upgraded it to 35s so that might be my fault. Once I'm done with all 4 outer axle seals and all 4 wheel bearings. It will have all new suspension on it now. Rack and pinon, high articulating extended halfshafts,diff drop down kit,OEM lower control arms freedom offroad upper control arms for "4 lift and "5 coilovers from freedom offroad with a extra leaf pack and "2 block in the rear. My calipers were both seized and rotors were warped to. So I bought a big brake kit for a 2015 lexus GX460 with steel braided brake lines. Oh and my masterclyinder and brake booster blew out after putting the 35s on my truck after 6 months as well as the driverside rear wheel bearing blowing out and taking my outer axle seal with it. So it dumped all my diff fluid with it. So all new outer axle seals as well. Cross my fingers nothing else brakes. I do my own repairs but it still doesn't help my wallet out with $8,750 in repairs within months. But it's still cheaper then buying another tundra with the options mine has.
Lost a front wheel in a 97 4 runner. EYE opening experience
@@ahole5388did you have any warning signs beforehand?
NO warning at all. Weeks before someone mentioned how nice the old rattletrap drove.
I traded it for a solid axle 1 ton ram with Dana 80s no problems at all with suspension. Now everything else no comment 😂
😮 I. Also have a 2000 tundra death truck..... what a ride after the left ball joint broke on the 7 mile bridge...Woopie!!!
Dude, that tie rod end just fell out. I had to crank on it with a press to get mine to seperate. Passenger side with just a bit of rust. 2001 4runner.
anit-seize onit?
Just had my ball joints on my sienna done. Yes different car but i changed them in the end of 21. Toyota, Oh what a feeling!
my upper broke on my 02 tundra luckly it happen when i was coming to a stop and into a turn lane. the whole truck feel down broke my break likes and sensor cable. could had been bad drivving 70mph and that happened. I replaced all them after that
Yes. there is a snap ring spreader for rings without holes. Vintage New Britain, SK, Craftsman, Snap On, MAC, but prolly not finding one in Harbor Freight or Lowes. IT would be nice if you mentioned how much harder this job is with the vehicle on the ground and not up at shoulder level. Rust belt vehicles will have a much tougher time getting the old parts off. Perhaps Advance Auto or Autozone has that blalst how catastrphic these failures can be. I changed mine at 228k and they werer originals, but the POs of my truck babied my truck with no offroading etc.
Use OEM and new bolts. Loctite and torque. Change every 100,000 miles but check them often.
You need to make sure you specify not only the year, the motor size but if it’s a two wheel drive or 4x4… most parts houses list only the 2 wheel drive model, which is a smaller version ball joint… they look identical but when you go to install, you discover everything about the two parts are smaller… I discovered this the hard way
Can you install the bigger 4x4 ball joints on a 2WD?
@@MrVehicularmanslaugh I don’t think so, I own a 4x4 and the first pair I purchased were too small… I found out later they were for a 2 wheel drive…
I got the Bad feeling... my wheel was starting to rumble at over 50 mph... Power steering leak ate all the rubber on ball joint and right control arm... All is very loose... Fixing now..
But, scary to see that... and these videos. 😲
tHanks for the video. Don't know why RUclips sent it...but it was good. tHank RUclips.
I like the wood cabinets in the shop...with the window too. It is a classy look.
My 01 taco lower ball joint failed. The truck was inspected 3 days before and no defects were detected. Change em out every 100 miles.
every 100 miles? typo there?
@@efil4kizum Think he meant every 23 years or so
Had one of these fail (drivers side) and the wheel came off and got jammed up under the vehicle...luckily I was only doing about 5mph or it could have been a catastrophic accident. Toyota should be sued through the roof for this incredibly dangerous design
Fj cruisers, sequoia, 4runner, Tacoma, older tundras, lexus GX series and RX series as well as Highlanders and rav4s
My 2000 tundra has been so nice to me. Only broke ball joints when i was going under 20mph. I love my truck but hate those ball joints.
I'm spoiled living on the west coast. I don't have to deal with all of the rust from the road salts.
this rig is doing some serious battle with the winter salt monster
For a critical part of the vehicle that can kill you or others with a failure of any sort... loctite and torque the darn balljoint bolts please lol.
Check out the stretched brake hose keeping the upright from leaning any further out when doing the upper B/J. Toyota forbids letting a caliper hang from the hose, never mind the rotor, hub, upright and C-clamp press, too. Better to remove and hang the caliper on a hook, and wire the upright to limit outward travel. Really nice shop and he was right about detecting B/J wear. I've never had tapered studs come out by hitting the ends.
No amount of loctite and tight bolts stops the ball joints from separating themselves
@fullyxflared1217the 4 14mm bolts are known to fail if not torqued to the specified torque spec.
@@jeremiahisaaccanto6411they arent 14mm and that gun has 65 ft lbs of torque which exceeds the specified torque, are you a mechanic? Did you know 90 percent of mechanics dont torque those to spec, i know a dozen guys that would laugh in your face for pulling out a torque wrench, just grab a fucken ratchet and gooden tight it im certain the ammount of force you put on it will be greater than a torqur wrench
@@jamesbasye2362 I see you know nothing about these ball joints. First of all, yes they are all 14mm, I’ve changed them enough to know that they are 14mm. Secondly, no I’m not a mechanic, I couldn’t care less about what others think if I pulled out a torque wrench, especially someone like you who clearly doesn’t know. The 14mm as I said are known for failing if overtightened or not tightened enough, sure you could go ahead and tighten as much as you want, I don’t care about your procedures, you do you, one thing’s for sure, I wouldn’t let you work on my truck.
Easy to understand video Thanks, we have 2005 Tundra and 2006 Sequoia and it's getting to be the regular fix up years,175 -195,000 miles
A video of Excellency.
Thank you so much , just a down to earth presentation.
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The change over from smaller to larger LBJs for Tundra was in 04+ but 05-06 to be safe. You can tell because the earlier ones will have 14mm bolts, the larger ones have 17mm bolts. You can upgrade to the larger set by adding the spindles/hubs and lower control arms from the 05-06 (and possibly 04) to your 00-03 tundra/seq. It’s a direct fit. And the original LBJ recall for 05-06 was due to manufacturing defects. Eventually it was also expanded to earlier years because of increased failure rates. Regardless, only use OEM replacements!
My 06 tundra just blew the lower ball joint on Friday . Insurance has it right now and are leaning towards a total loss. It was that afternoon that i discovered the recall out on them but my vin is strangely not included in the recall.
Wow, I'm in Australia with some of the worst roads known to man. My 2004 120 Prado still running original ball joints. I've been servicing my car since 10,000km, now has 305,000km as of 11th August, 2024.
Crazy that you have a lift but no torque wrench…
Remember watching this I think when it came out. Remembered watching bit but not the actual content of the video. Wide said her first Sequoia was jerking around at full lock. I drove it around in front of the house and then came back. It almost felt like a 4wd when you leave it in and turn on pavement...but ours is 2wd. Look under and the castle nut was one thread from falling off and the ball joint had separate!!😳😬😲. I just replaced the trouble joint with OEM. I will do the other one, just wanted to get it back on the road.
I was looking around for a replacement at all the parts places. They all had sketchy names I have never heard in suspension parts...even rock auto had no real names. I don't know what's up with that. I was going to buy a NAPA top of the line joint then saw it was actually cheaper to order from Toyota online and pick it up at the dealer.
Always enjoy watching Other people work on stuff.. : ) ive had it after 2 decades haha.. Great vid.
Anything is easier with a lift and a big impact, i was telling phillip tales of before i had a lift and how hard life was lol
Nice instructional vid! Thanks.
But I'm still wondering..., how did your Toyota balljoint failure "almost kill you"? I missed that somehow.
Click bait.......
@@horitauri Yep. I do not respect the use of click bait or people who persist in it. Society is full of enough forms of manipulative and deceptive communication tactics already.
Toyota IS STILL HONORING the lower front ball joint recall as of 1/25/24 for all 2002-2007 Sequoia's and Tundra platforms. I got mine replaced 3 days ago.
What’s the recall notice
I’m guessing no recall for 09 Tacomas
@@HB-yq8gy well... if you call your local dealer. You would know. I cant tell you something I havent inquired about.
Mines a '01 Tundra 😞
Yo fuck Toyota mfs got my ass i got the 01
Yeah, good to watch in real time. Cheers, Phil - New Zealand
You made it look so darn easy
My Sequoia is a great vehicle. But the frame rust and the lbj design flaw are the only main issues. Folks should only use the Toyota LBJ. The aftermarket are no where as strong to support the weight in this flawed design. I change my LBJ every two years and check them at each oil change. I have seen too many of these pop out on my friends while driving and hitting a pothole
Dang. Every 2.
What about moog ?
@@jhhsss i only trust the Toyota LBJ. Original oem. The moog snap too and you can google stories about them.
@@Mrtekem from what I heard the moog problem solver line is better than oem. I’m not sure about standard moog ball joints but I’ve heard nothing but good things about the problem solvers
Mevotech TTX are BEEFY
Hi from vegas good job
I miss my Sequoia, but love my new-to-me FJ Cruiser. I'll definitely check the lower ball joints when I get it up in the air. I'm about to add an additional trans cooler & change all the ATF in the trans & torq converter. Turns out the shudder some people have dealt with in these can be fixed by changing all the fluid, so I'm just doing it as PM.
Yes it will fix it , late model sequoia and tundra have that issue the fluid and filter change fixes it , i also secured the deal on the green xb , so maybe more vids on it
Just what I needed, thanks 😮
Nice to see more of this.
Great Video. Makes it look easy, which I'm sure it will be when I take this project on this week.
Why would you not fill the ball joint with grease before you install it?
That would be too easy.
@@hokie9910 we shouldn't let that happen ...true
dam. are you a pro auto mechanic ? sure make that look easy. the most ill go is a brake caliper change on my 09 taco.
My 2003 tundra 4x4 feels like a 10 ton dump truck without a load when I hit potholes and dips. When I brake on occasion I feel a sudden jolt or slippage just before the truck stops, 498000 miles and all original suspension except for struts. I can see the upper control arm has lots of play so assuming ball joints are history as well.
I bought the truck new.
lost the front passenger wheel at 30 mph on a 97 4runner. Not fun, luckily it was on gravel with no traffic. A week prior I was doin 70 on the interstate and my buddy mentioned how nice the old rig drove.
do you recall the mileage on that LBJ that blew? Are You Lifted abouve stock height At All?
Great info! Good to see this up close and detailed. Excellent vid. Thank you, sir.
Ball joints got larger mid-year, August of 2003. Brakes too.
The bolts sheared off on mine. I fixed the driver side a while back and it now just happened on passenger side. Just found out ab the recall
Great video! Something I'll start looking at around 150K miles.
Page SA74 of the 00-03 Tundra SFM is the inspection procedure.
I want a lift in my kitchen too! 😂😂😂
Thank you!! I always wondered how to check those type of ball joints ! How many miles on the vehicle?
this seems to be a common issje with Prado 90 series too, scary when they let go
There is a recall for the lower ball joints!!! They fail and the suspension comes of causing no steeeing control of the vehicle.
I have a 2001 Toyota sequoia with about 230k miles. I am definitely going to replace the front ball joints uppers and lowers do I need to replace the rear as well tho?
Here in TJ, I've
Seen about 6 gen 3 4runners with the tire broken off
Will the lower or upper ball joint cause shaking when braking?
I have replaced pads, rotors, calipers & tie rods. But still have bad shaking when braking. Thanks
In my case there was no shaking but loud clunk on braking. Squeaky sound when turning and a vague steering that refuse to centre after turning left of right. Than it popped out after some months with this symptoms. I thought it was my arm bushes and my steering rack and pinion gone bad😅.
Really really helpful. How long did it take you to do both lower & upper ball joints?
I'm wondering why you didn't do the lower bushings too.
T4TV
Nathan, maybe I missed in one of the comments. Can I do this on a level driveway. I do have some 12 ton Daytona Harbor Freight stands I trust will keep me safe. Just wondering if it's doable without a car lift. Also, I can't thank you enough on your other BMW videos. Cheers!
No cleaning before mounting new hardware. No loctite on threads. No torque wrench on any of the bolt heads or nuts. Hanging the suspension on the brake hose and abs wire with no support. Yeah, fantastic video.
Man I gotta check mine, mine drives like a dream no sounds no lights nothing at all and I got 320k miles on my Prius
In a tight spot the lower is the most urgent. Upper failing wouldn’t be as crazy as the lower failing.
Wonder if someone has made a safety catch mechanism incase of failure. Maybe adding a chain welded to each wishbone 😆 sad
Use a a dang torque wrench geeeeeezzzzzz
I just did one of these at my job today and struts ball joints were squeaking away strut bushing wiped out
Great camera work
SAME I had 4 of my kids and my wife in the truck when it happened
How often should the ball joints be replaced? My 2006 had them replaced per recall in 2007. Do I need to replace per miles or years?
As needed... Just check them when you do other work in that area such as brakes or when you hear/feel anything weird in that area.
My Sequoia 02 ball joints busted loose going 72 mph, slapping the wheel under the driver side step board. Replaced with a full moog front end. What a ride. Has 348k.
You almost have to check them every oil change just to be sure
How long does Mood last?
xxx moog?
Wow you are boss of jefes 👍🇱🇷
I wonder is there is multiple styles of Toyota joints for first gen? I didn't think I saw a grease fitting on my Toyota joints I just installed, so I went outside to look and see. No grease zerk. Did you happen to take a pic of the part number for this one?
I have the same question!
Very good video! Good job explaining and showing
Do you think the lbj catastrophic failures are related to harsh environments? I’m in the SE, and my 2001 Sequoia (257k) has been a family hauler. No heavy towing, no rust. I will do these because I don’t want to tempt fate. I see a lot of these videos with frame rust which has got to weaken components. Also a salt environment is hard on everything.
Buy any high mileage toyota truck and LBJ are the first thing you should do, even if there are no signs of failure.
The design is bad. The ball joint is inverted. And if it fails will cause the lower arm to drop and wheel to come off. Not sure why toyota engineers did that. Every other car i have, even from 95 have it the proper way. The weight of the vehicle should rest on top of the ball joint. Not hanging onto it for dear life.
There is a recall on the lowers, Toyota will replace them once for free no matters the miles or number of owners.
Where did you see that or hear about that I would like to know please
@@anjr6282 True. Just go to any dealer and ask them to pull the recall records for your vehicle. If they do not have noted in the Toyota system they will replace for certain early model year Sequoia and Tundras.
I just got off the phone with Toyota, give them your VIN number n they would tell you if there’s a recall on your specific car, I guess since it depends the month it was manufactured
3/23/22
1435hrs
Hope this is true . My passenger side lower came out while turning out of a gas station . Glad I was on the highway .
I just bought a new set of tires and went for an alignment. Shop said I needed both lower ball joints and 1 inner tie rod. I replaced those with napa parts then got alignment and thought I was good. Last weekend, About 2 months after the alignment, the passengers side tire completely came off. Both upper and lower failed. Luckily I was doing about 35mph and safely stopped. I had just finished hauling cars on a tow dolly about 200 miles. Lucky I'd say. Should have bought oem.
Yeah there's a tool for that specific style ring they're called snap ring pliers...
I have a 2002 Sequioa and was just debating replacing the ball joints. I was actually was wondering if the 2005 and newer joints would fit, your the first to mention the different size bolts and pattern. Idk if the effort to swap a 05 or newer spindle over would be worth it.
That tie rod came out of the steering knuckle way too easy. ........! In fact every ball joint came out way too easy. Still good as an education video.
I use MOOG parts, almost as expensive as OEM but they are well made American products though instead of OEM, I also drill & tap a hole on them for grease fittings, do the same for tie rod ends too...haven't had one fail yet!!...If a OEM part by yota is failing, I go with something else that exceeds that!!
Careful, they are making/reboxing some parts from china. Also parts that used to have zerk fittings no longer do.
I have a 2001 Sequoia, the right side ball joint broke at 136,000 miles and I was lucky it broke going into a parking lot. Toyota recall is from 2002 and up ,well it is happening on 2001. Called toyota and their excuse is that it was normal wear. This is extremely dangerous and Totota has gotten lucky that no fatalities happened yet. This is Original ball joints so they will not last 200k which they should. If anyone is reading this and have a sequoia , buy a quality ball joint, I bought the brand "moog" and if you had an accident , I would get a lawyer and take them to court. They are well informed of this problem.
Way too much editing, wished you had included how hard it was to put that upper ball joint back on, setting it up and getting it to align to be pressed on and the upper ball joint boot back on along with the boot ring, I know it's a pain. You basically edited all the hard stuff off the video. Would have been nice to see that part.
Otherwise it was a good video.
well this guy knows his shit. awesome video more gen 1 tacoma stuff
Wtf I knew my Tacoma has the biggest issue with ball joints. I’ve always heard that’s the biggest reliability issue with Tacoma’s. But didn’t know it affected other apart from the 4Runner.
It would really help if you state the vehicles milage at the time of failure / repair!!
I'll tell you what will kill you! The block of wood on your lift adapter as seen at 6:50. The biggest cause of lift failure is improper spotting and adapters. that thing moves or splits and you would wish you kept the old ball joints.
Ami se me partio 1 el del conductor en el i-95 a 70mill y por suerte no paso nada y luego me llamaron para un ricol y me los pusieron gratis en dealer
Awesome video this man is a pro !
Whaaaat no grease in the new joint? Wow
I will admit not watching the whole video, but Toyota’s design of a tension loaded LBJ is just plain dumb. With all the other manufacturers using a compression loaded lower ball joint that rarely fail in a dangerous way, this is terrible and dangerous, notice they changed the design to the standard compression loaded joint for the second gen Tundra. Also please get your vehicle checked for stuff like this at a shop you can trust unless you are truly capable of doing it yourself. Do it yourself oil changes or quick lubes are not always a good idea if it doesn’t get your vehicle checked properly.
You never mentioned the year, or I missed you saying it. Did you know Toyota recalled ALL their trucks (every model) from 2001-2005 do to lower ball joint failing? Worse engineering design ever for Toyota having the Ball hanging down. Their redesign in 2006 was to put the ball on top.
I need to check the ones on my Sequoia. Been thinking about them for a few years. I have 250k on it.
I don't go offroad in mine, at 270 now, original ball joints. I don't think it's a concern for most highway driving, unless there was a recall for yours.
The thing about Toyotas is they are pretty low maintenance. Somewhat idiot proof.
Do u know what caused the vehicle to be wobble/bouncy? I fixed all my front ball joints and shocks, think it might be rear shocks or ujoints?
Worn out suspension.