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Chinas foot soilders might have a Lil chance with are foot soilders American but there air force can't compare to the us air force we been upgrading since the cold war right 💯💯
China is not a dragon. 🤣🤣🤣China never won any war in last 800 years. China was a very weak country throughout history. China was always invaded and ruled by foreign nations like Mongols, Khitans, Xiongnu(Hun), Turkic, Jurchens, Xianbei, Uyghurs, Japan, Korea, Britain, Australia. Japan is the real dragon. Japan conquered Beijing in 1937. Chinese don't even know how to fight.
@@rehan-ci1tk NOOOOOOOOOOO! REALLY?! I HAD NO IDEA ABOUT THIS FACT!!!! IT'S NOT LIKE FEDEX IS THE SINGLE LARGEST POSTAGE SERVICE IN THE HISTORY OF THE HUMAN RACE OR ANYTHING! I thank you for your hard hitting journalistic work citizen, now go, the world needs you! (in case you can't tell, SEVERE sarcasm was implied there).
Nah I am the financier Do you want some loans to buy more billion dollar air planes and ships? If you can't pay back. Just start another war with Middle East or South America Plenty of oil over there 😆
Mate, i don't know about Air force high commands but given the track record of some of the US generals recently i'd say the armchair generals aren't that unqualified in comparison lmao.
@@chasetoyama8184 Embrace the fucking pain baby! me after completing the game multiple times on max difficulty *cracks knuckles and hold my last shred of will to live closer*
Why are there always Indian military „experts“ in the comment sections of every binkov video even if it has nothing to do with India?? Like I don’t have anything against Indians but I’m just saying🤷🏻♂️
For me, the calculus on this boils down to training flight hours and combat experience. Building a large air force doesn't make you a great military threat in the air any more than buying a really nice piano makes you a world-class musician.
@@oattyrant2035 you can’t say the same thing about us considering we have decades of combat flight experience in every air frame we fly, in every different condition you can think of.
@@colorblindvids not so useful when the air craft are overly expensive and slow to replace, I imagine a future world War with lower tech to increase production but hey who knows what will happen
Well, Chinese did show they can quickly amass large aircraft formations and send them to Taiwan AIZ. That shows they do know how to do a thing or two. Neither US nor China have anything close to at peer experience in air war. Certainly US has advantage if they met in the middle of nowhere but China is on home front defending meaning its logistics is easier not to mention extra systems that can be used.
Well the US politicians have to many problems at home, and they dont really seem like they want to fix them since that would mean less profits for their lobbists. US is stuck in an evil circle atm. Wont be able to face China like that. They are gonna need a population that cooperates if they are going to hope to face China. The odds are allready stacked against them from the huge population difference. Having a population at "war" with eachother, is not gonna help things thats for sure.
@@MelbaOzzie Hum... The US has won some battlefield engagements, but WWII was the last time the US won a war. Everything since has either been a stalemate or humiliating failure.
This video is surprisingly neutral. Info available from public sources are quite carefully gathered and presented. There is a tiny amount of direct comparison with the US but that wasn't the main part of the video at all. The comment section on the other hand is just hilarious.
What would be interesting is an analysis made by someone from the past. For example, analyzing the strengths of each side in 1914 or 1940, before the fighting began.
From what I can see, the Chinese Air force is most likely relegating a lot of the anti-ground role to drones. From the vast array of the Caihong (CH) family of propeller drones to the ultra-stealthy flying wing attack drone of the GJ-11. In terms of drone variety China has the Americans beat, China even has Early Warning radar drone, the Divine Eagle, which forms part of a distributed AWACS system. Where the Early warning radar drone can fly much longer and farther than manned AWACS. Which is pretty peculiar how slow the US is advancing in different mission sets for drone warfare. A lot of good designs gets canned, it shows a general dismissive attitude towards drone technology. Something the US air force will regret.
I don't think we can say that many of these designs get "canned." They're made for a reason, and it's also important to remember that while the Chinese are on their own, the U.S. has a great number of advanced allies that may be developing their own drone tech that the U.S. military will buy. If Finland, for example, came up with a great strike platform, why re-invent it? The U.S. has also developed the Stingray tanker drone, which could also be used for electronic attack and that is absolutely being deployed, Australia has developed a loyal wingman air-to-air combat drone which is now under consideration for U.S. adoption, and the B-21 is rumored to have an unmanned strike capability - literally a drone the size of an actual strategic stealth bomber. I'd say America is okay.
@@VisibilityFoggy Compared to China and the US, the American allies' drone program are a rounding error. even the traditional military powers of UK and France has a rather lackluster drone development program. The advantages of drones are the fact that they are an expendable platform, claiming B-21 having unmanned capabilities means nothing when considering how expensive it is. The idea of a platform being both manned and unmanned is possibly just a sales pitch. If taken seriously, it'll produce a platform that is jack of both trades and master of none, because it'll have the expense and weight of a manned aircraft with the absence of the expendable nature of UAVs. So B-21 may just be a bomber that have high automation, rather than designed as a manned drone bomber. Who knows believing in a sales pitch is not the first time the US military fell into a ditch. the last one was the F-35B. and the so called 1 plane 3 branches slogan.
While impressive on paper, numbers doesn't equal quality. Since most of their air fleet is either out of date or untested we will not know how well these will perform outside of a real war. Specs on a plane can always be to impress people. But show me how it works in a joint arms environment. How does it fair during stress test? How much a beating does it take? Maintenance? Refuel/Reloading time. Ability to repair and upgrade. The number of people you need to support a single airplane? Where can it land/take off from? How does it fare with different weapon systems?
Experience is king, chinese veterans fighting american conscripts in the korean war could win even when the Americans had better equipment. Finnish veterans slaughtered their better equipped, more numerous Soviet enemies. In their century of humiliation the chinese got curb stomped by European armies who were more experienced even when the chinese imported equivalent weapons, had 10x the men, and had a home field advantage. Russia took a similar beating in their first war with Japan with the well trained navy slaughtering the more numerous Russian equivalents. China has always had a mediocre air force that relied heavily on soviet trainers, Soviet experts, and Soviet equipment and during WW2 the same happened with America being their supporter. Pretty much anyone in the military when given the choice between a piece of equipment with a proven track record that's produced by someone you know and trust and another equivalent that has better specs on paper and is produced by someone who's been known to consistently lie about their performance everyone will choose the proven piece of equipment. Doesnt matter if it's a rifle, a pair of boots, or a modern fighter jet. Theres also the issue that China has always had to import experts, import equipment, steal tech, and copy foreign ideas and methods. That doesnt bode well for their quality.
The numbers for AEW&C planes are also outdated, according to latest estimates China now has 36+ KJ-500, 13+ KJ-200, and 4 KJ-2000 in service. And in recent years they've also been adding up their ASW plane fleet, with around 50+ KQ-200 in service.
Can you run me down on the capabilities and specifications of those broadly as sourced in chinese publications, please? It's very rare to get a domestic assessment, not least since the script and language are such a barrier.
@@qarmatianwarhorse6028 AFAIK, the detection range for fighter-sized objects for KJ-500 is around 470 km according to domestic assessment. Not sure about the data for KJ-200 and KJ-2000 though.
@@isaacchinyijie3825 The Vietnam and Korean wars, not to mention the Japanese war of aggression in the 1930's and 1940's, have taught the US that land wars in Asia cannot be won against China or any reasonably well supplied Asian country. Defensive wars involving lots of water are more in line with what the US does well.
@@isaacchinyijie3825 Actually, there is nothing to be scared about German Reich. The German Reich will not invade any country, maybe only France and Britain will invade the German Reich
I honestly dont understand why the people who is leaving salty pathetic comments are still subscribed to the channel. its like you want the truth but you can't handle the truth so ima be salty here to gain some self esteem 😭😭
One obvious but sometimes overlooked factor that perhaps ought to be noted when comparing the numbers is that America has only a fraction of her naval and air assets deployed in East Asia at any given time, while China can draw upon nearly her entire military might in the opening stages of a conflict. Thus, America would be greatly outnumbered for some time in any clash with China (occurring within the first island chain) until reinforcements can arrive. Were Japan or South Korea to actively join in, this imbalance would be majorly offset, of course.
The best way for any western power would be economic blockade of China. China is just like Germany in WW1 and WW2 export and import dependent. China is not self sufficient from a food perspective. US Submarine force is number 1 in world. Close off strait of Malacca / bomb choke points on inland routes. Sink any COSCO merchant ships and China is Toast.
That is the main weakness of the US military. Because it is so spread out, regional powers will have an advantage in any surprise engagement and this is partly why the US relies on NATO for defending against USSR/Russia, West Europe alone was not strong enough to defend against the USSR, and the US would not have able to respond fast enough to protect against a Soviet invasion alone. This is why the US is working on security partnerships and alliances like QUAD and AUKUS, since China’s growing military power is too much for the US alone.
@@robertfrost1683 This is the way to start a war, if you mean to do this during the war, then wouldn't China protect its main ports and supply chains? Also there will be rationing in any country that is in a major war, US included.
Worlds Largest Air force: USAF Worlds Second Largest Air force: United States Navy, not inculding the USMC Worlds Third Largest Air Force: The United States Marine Corps Earths largest corporation: The United States Department of Defense. We haven't even taken off our shirt. It'd be great if China just did everybody a favor and calmed down.
When US and its allies went to war against China, this time, it will be like the continuation of Korea War. The war in Korea is unfinished war. No one won the war. It was a stale mate. Chinese army fought the Allies under US Army command without air force to cover their Army from the sky, without navy to stop the Allies from landing in Korean soil. The Chinese Army was no match in all fronts against the US and its allies. The Chinese don't have military industrial base to manufactured weapons at that time. Most of their weapons were remnants of the weapons surrendered by Japanese army at the end of WW2. Some were loan by Russia to China. Despite all the odds, the Chinese army were able to stale mate the war and prevented America from occupying North Korea. I don't know what would be the outcome this time when US and its Allies once again against the Chinese Army which is different from the Chinese Army during Korea War. Maybe those US Allies who joined the US army in the Korea War should rejoin with their US master to resume the unfinished war. No turning back.
It's very impressive to see a huge progress that chinese military made in the last 20 years. Honestly a very few of us from the West expected that to happen.
It has but a major war with the US would be utterly disastrous.The US in the Pacific would wreak massive destruction with their air and naval power and be backed by Japan and South Korea .Most countries are far more worried about Chinese expansion than American influence.America is a divided society but there is strong bi partisan fear of China.America is top dog in the Pacific and intends to stay that way.
@@Marvin-dg8vj Utterly delusional, the only war that could arise in the region would be one between China and Taiwan, and if the US does intervene then its Pacific Fleet will be obliterated as it is largely outnumbered. The US can bully countries like Iran and Russia with its larger navy but not China in its backyard.
@@Marvin-dg8vj I don't expect direct military confrontation between US and China, as it would be devastating for the World economy, but in the next few decades regional war there is highly likely, with many unresolved problems and frozen conflicts (Taiwan, North Korea) some things are inevitable.
It’s been a year now and. Here is an example of chinese manufacturing at its finest, the numbers of J-20s got to squadron level and they also made new YY-20 and KJ-600
Yea Chinas ability to absolutely churn out hardware should not be underestimated. Currently they have 21 shipyards to build warships and the US has 4. They have overtaken the US in certain areas of manufacturing (like warships) and could overtake them in a lot more areas of manufacturing if the US isn’t careful. Here in the US we’re too busy blowing our $858 billion budget on corruption.
They can turn out of the equipment they want, but if the pilots flying them are not constantly training and flying, they are nothing more than targets for better trained pilots. Commanders also have to be constantly trained in how to implement these aircraft, pilots, and systems. The US pilots are constantly training and have more flight time than just about any other nation in the world.
@@FerociousPancake888 even crazier is the fact congress still wanted to keep LCS in service for a decade more, that was 2 years ago. The shipyard problem is still not being fixed, renovations are still ongoing and are already over budget. The sea wolf class sub that grounded on a reef in East China Sea won’t come back into service in 2027 because we don’t have enough dry docks to repair her.
Korean War Aces: US=40 China, Russia, N. Korea= 76 Western claim of 10:1 kill ratio is utter nonsense and and as always underestimate the enemy's kill numbers.
@@davedave2551 lol... you think china still using Guns for dog fights? Chinese also have BVR missiles which are more advanced then anything rhe west has and longer range then the American AMRAAM at 120 km the Chinese PL-15 has range of 300km so the smoking holes in the ground will be reserved for the warmongering western powers. China has already surpassed the west in tech, cyber, electronic and jamming warfare. You forgetting Vietnam where over 4000 smoking holes were made by Americans combat aircrafts alone not counting the helicopter.
@@davedave2551 lol... I wouldn't know about Beijing weather. Your attitude is typical denial China has surpassed the west. It took China 40 years to achieve what the west has taken 100 year moveover China has a massive lead in tech weapons developed every project China dose is under budget and ahead of scschedule.live with it accept it it the new reality. China and CCP made its self Great again. Lol wish you all the best and good health, Sir/Madam
@@Ace-Av8er I've seen made in China. And ,yeah. Not to mention, they have no combat experience. They can't even take back an island just off its coast. The west will blockade China, with the help of Japan, India and Taiwan. China won't be able to import enough or export. Winning without much of a fight. No one likes China. No one. They have fake friends who take money from them. That's about it
@@davedave2551 China directly or indirectly beat the living daylights out of US and its cronies in Korea and Vietnam with its so call cheap copies and a pesant Army and will do it again if provoked into a war again. This time China is technically more advanced then the west and widening the gap at dizzying rate every month.
And I believe the Chinese military does use satellite-guided precision strike weapons, if they are offering those in the export market then there's no way they wouldn't use those domestically. They already have the Beidou system which is similar to GPS. The reason why we don't really see them using those in their trainings is likely because those're rather expensive and are mostly reserved for actual conflicts rather than training.
Probably a wise idea is to sell aircraft and associated weapons to Iran which is involved in the Syrian conflict and Pakistan which has horns locked with India. Observe their efficiency in combat situation, then use the data from that to further development cycle. It would save the PLAAF having to get it's hands dirty, bring in much-needed arms sales money AND serve as case studies.
No, GPS/Beidou guided bomb are cheap. US sells a sleeve which you can put on to normal bomb to make it precision bomb. It is costs like 2000 dollars~ Even cheaper in China.
"Flaming Dragon or a baby Tiger?" i would be more worried about the baby tiger, they will one day grow up to become a threat. a flaming dragon you take to a gay bar and it will be too distracted to ever bother you ever again.
Don´t know which it is. However, the US should be wise to remember what happened the last time they tangled with China. Back then the chinese had nothing but huge numbers of infantry. And they still pushed the US back. Remember Chosin Reservoir? If they did that with infantry, what do you think they will do with modern tanks, aircraft, and nukes? Just a thought...
@@Biden_is_demented they had more than huge infantry going for them. They also had Soviets flying Mig-15s for them, T55s... Korea was a modern conflict for the time. NK had USSR backing and equipment. Also the war would have gone far different if a certain general had his way. If anything a modern direct conflict between US and China now would only stay non nuclear so long.. so all the conjecture is pointless.
@@noneyadamnbusiness6891 The few russian/chinese aircraft were almost inconsequential. The real bulk was in the infantry. Yes, NK had covert USSR backing. But the US had the UN behind it. They had a much bigger force, and hundreds of tanks, carriers, etc. By all accounts, the US should have won, right? But they didn´t. And given subsequent conflicts and its disappointing results, we can expect a new US war to end just the same: with the US bolting and giving up, as soon as China commits to an all out war. And for China, any war with the US will represent an existential threat. So they are bound to fully commit. And fighting a +1 billion chinese won´t be no picnic. Something the generals at the Pentagon won´t even acknowledge to. And pride comes before the fall...
@@Biden_is_demented China has way to many internal issues to win a war with the US. Demographics, water, lack of innovation, housing market collapse etc.
Actually, there is nothing to be scared about china. China will not invade any country, maybe only United states will invade china. IM not CHINESE But i know if China and US are friends, all people in the world will be filled with happiness and peace!
China is rapidly closing the technological gap it had with West & Russia. I just can't understand why Russia sold a dozen of their best fighters (4 gen Su-35?) to be immediately reverse-engineered.
@@Ankhobo Aha. I think I can understand the point. But is Russia going to be able to make SU-57's enough? So far they seem to have been very lazy on that.
@@HiReeZin I don't think they've been lazy. I think the Su-57 has ultimately proven to be more of a concept demonstrator than a deployable platform. If Russia were smart, she would take the Su-57 program and use it as the basis for a sixth-gen fighter. The issue, of course, is engine tech. This goes for China as well. Neither of them have the technology that the U.S. and Europe have developed to provide an equivalent level of reliability, fuel economy and, perhaps most important for platforms like the Su-57, heat signature reduction.
@@mokutan8334 Don’t think that, it’s just that they do t have the funds, they just don’t think it’s worth the money, instead they build more SAM and almost as good SU-35 and upgrade older SU-30.
This may an odd comparison, but my wife is Chinese. She expects everything in her personal life to be cheap and fast. She makes rude comments on how long it takes for building projects in Ca, saying that they would have been completed in a fraction of the time in China. We have a saying in engineering; cheap, fast or right, pick any two. So if Chinese mentality is to always pick fast and cheap, it's unlikely that it will be right. Add the corruptions issues, and the US may be in good shape.
However, China has got the best quality for its quickly built infrastructure. China makes best cement in the world, like the strongest one to build Sanxia, and developed the cement for under sea tunnels after two years of hard research. As for the cheap part, take the subway as an example. China has its own tunnel boring machine and most experienced tunnel makers in the world, so why wouldn’t they be more effective?
The training level china has recently raised up to US standards to make up the huge gap of technologies that our fighter aircrafts lacks but from recent reports it was only specifically for cargo based planes not fighter aircrafts. Moreover, US is soon rising their training standards to raf standards of 18.5 hours per day average if I’m not mistaken. Furthermore, the aircrafts technological difference is just like huge which plays a huge part in here. However, when a war breaks out naval and airforce or ground troops becomes useless against nuclear missiles which ends humanity which is why people are begging for no war.
Yeah, well, China seems to be doing all they can to get rid of foreign investors in their country, which is why quite a few companies have moved manufacturing out of China (e.g. Samsung moving smartphone production from China to India).
@@Schnittertm1 That has been their MO for years, invite in foreign investors, use their close proximity to steal their IP and once they are able to make their own copies, kick the foreign business out. What boggles my mind is that businesses see this occurring and still go into China. Do they think the same thing won't happen to them or something? What's the definition of insanity again?
I think the better judgement of Chinese equipment won't come from its use by China itself, but from its costumers. Countries like Nigeria and Pakistan have purchased Armored vehicles and aircraft from China and their more likely to use them in action first.
Scary thing is , they don't have any j-10c , j 16 and j-20 fighter in 2015 Now they have around 500+ , safe to assume they will have 1000+ 4++ and 5th gen fighter by 2025 They also upgrading their j-11b with new engine and AESA radars.
Every country always does that. I knew they existed before 2015. The US has been building the F/A-XX since atleat 2015 and would love it if China just thought it was propaganda. And it is still classified how many F-35s the US has. And I don't care what anybody says a J-20 is not even close to a 5th generation Figher, and it would lose to a F-16 any day of the week in BVR. The US Air Force still to this day debates on whether or not it's a third gen or a 4th Gen fighter pathetically. It has 3rd gen engines that give off a ton of infrared heat, and it's radar cross section is about twice the size of a 1978 F-16C. But some people like to wank it up to a fourth gen just because of it's avionics alone. The US Air Force built a j-20 for target practice, and say even with F-35 stealth technology that it's airframe is just simply too bad to ever have significant stealth.
@@electrolysisresearch8013 Pure load of bs.... With J10C, J16 and J20 .... you have no chance esp when these are armed with PL15 which outranges anything US has. The Chinese planes will fire the missiles and return to base while your planes will be jumping like monkeys avoiding them PL15 at mach 4. Dare to say any of the plane can take on the old F16 hahahahahhahah keep dreaming
@@hkfoo3333 And a j-10 isn't going to do shit, they already got their asses beat almost 7 to 1 in BVR by Thailand's 4th generation fighters. And I'm pretty sure at this point that a J-10 is better than a J-16. And the US literally built a j-20 and even used F-35 stealth technology on it, and said even with their most advanced stealth technology it still had around twice as large of a radar cross section as the 1978 F-16c, because the airframe is just too bad to have real Stealth. And all now all US F-16s are now either block 70 or extremely close. China doesn't even have anything I would call a 4th generation fighter their Air Force is absolutely pathetic.
@@electrolysisresearch8013 I don't comment about any Chinese jets, but I am pretty sure F-16 that USAF uses were from earlier 2000 and block 50/52 standard. And USAF didn't upgrade their any F-16 to F-16V as it cost the same as F-35.
China's military ambition is to secure the third island chain to protect its huge reliance on global supply lines. It's surrounded by powerful potential enemies (India, Japan). It's about regional dominance only. It has an aging population and 1.4 billion people to feed, most of its energy and food come through shipping routes. The USA can sit like it always did across the world and simply take advantage of it's perfect geographical location. It doesn't rely on world trade to make it's money and feed it's people. It's self sufficient with no enemies close by. China climbed to the position it's in through none of its own doing, only by the global scenario created by the USA's huge navy maintaining world peace/trade. The USA will simply sit back and let China deal with all the problems now and bankrupt itself in doing so. Hence leaving Afghanistan, it's China's problem now.
USA self sufficient? You can't eat paper money for dinner LOL. Hope Joe Biden raise the tariff rate to 50% on all Chinese imports and finger cross you have stored enough toilet paper rolls. Good luck.
@@dopeyking3766 the USA has the largest open space of agricultural land. It can easily feed it's own population. It's only 330 million people. Its energy needs are also met internally. China is the opposite, most of its food and like 80% of its energy demands are imported through two shipping lanes.
@@danielhandika8767 an all out war is very doubtful, China is not stupid, war is far too destructive and as a communist party dragging your people into hell doesn't look too good on you. It will be proxy conflicts and a slow push for regional power.
I tend to agree with Binkov's analysis here. While China's military (for the moment) is growing in leaps and bounds, whether or not that can be sustained over a long period of time remains to be seen, especially considering the problems China is now experiencing in their economy, population, real estate and banking system. China is also only a regional power at this time (although they would like the world to think otherwise), without the actual capability of global power projection (which, again, could change over time), and has yet to engage their military in any sort of meaningful military conflict with another aggressor, large or small. Either way, they still have a long, long way to go to catch up to US power projection, logistics, worldwide bases of operations, strong military allies and technological capabilities, as literally everything is simply a re-engineering of some other country's tech, airframes, ships, tanks, vehicles, small arms, etc. It will be an interesting ten years or so. I am old enough to remember when Japan (in the 1970s) was the "world's 2nd largest economy", and expected to overtake the US "anytime" as an economic world power. I am seeing the same claims being made (in the moment) about China. And we know how that eventually played out. Japan is a mere shadow of what it once was in that decade. So is Russia a mere shadow (militarily speaking) of what the old Soviet Union was during the Cold War. Time has a funny way of making sharp U-turns at the strangest times. And history has already shown us, time and time again, that "strength in numbers" does not necessarily translate to "power."
@@dwniu2000 *Comparing Japan with China is totally irrelevant* As I stated in my OP, economically, they are identical. And economically, they are following the exact same path. *with US stationed troop , Japan is literally the US's piggy bank* At present, there are seven U.S. military facilities in and around Japan, all of which the US pays for. Please demonstrate that Japan is "literally the US's piggy bank."
J16 EW doesn't pose a threat to USAF or Japan. It only poses a threat to Air Forces which are yet to have AWAC's and dedicated EW's in large quantity, like India.
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China's air force in its current form is sufficient to defend against threats over its own airspace, perhaps even a few hundred kilometers from its shores. However, it lacks offensive capability and experience in large scale joint operations. This will remain so for at least another decade. With that said, I fully expect PLAAF capabilities to significantly enhance in the coming decade. By 2035, it may even be able to go toe to toe with US and its allies in the Western Pacific theatre.
@@simonwhittaker6756 in a vacuum, yes. But China can't take Taiwan without risking loss of land in one of a dozen ongoing border disputes. Not to mention risk of supply chain disruption in the SCS. CCP can take Taiwan if it must. but it honestly can't afford to. Else it would have already....
@@dznuts123 CCP has invaded India, Tibet, encroached into Taiwan airspace,, and has built on Burmese sovereign land .. all in the last 10 yeard. China is a war monger state. BTW China would be speaking Japanese if not for the USA. You're welcome for the honey, Pooh bear.
Its funny how we're all watching and making predictions about a war that is more likely than not gonna happen within our lifetimes, i wonder how right binkov is.
How do you know its not gonna happen in our life time? Conversely how would someone know its going to happen in our life time? Going by China's increasing belligerence one can clearly say that the chances of a conflict are only increasing and in no aspect decreasing, so one thing is a given that the chances for a conflict are on the rise. Which means one has to be prepared for the worst case scenario, that is a war within our lifetimes.
@@randomrandom316 More likely than not means its more likely to happen then it isn't. It hasn't happened in the 70 or so years it could have, so there's no guarantee it can happen in the next 70 years. China could very likely take Taiwan without ever having to fire a shot--demographics, propaganda, economic pressures, and power projection will, over time, cause Taiwan to fall into the fold. This belligerence against Taiwan is very likely just posturing and is designed not to serve as a lead up to a real conflict but as a means of achieving propaganda victories, making Taiwan feel more vulnerable and pressured, and maybe even getting a rise out of the US. Trying to take Taiwan by force would be a bloody and difficult thing to do.
Sorry if this is mentioned later, but I wanted to comment that as soon as I saw the fleet size comparisons, it appears the US is going for the old British two power navy approach. 3300 planes is exactly as much as the next 2 air forces combined
If you really believe that China has 2000 fighter aircraft then you would also believe they had 5000 covid cases while other places had hundreds of thousands with a fraction of the Chinese population.
Not just those who served in the United States didn't retire age fighter, a lot of all of them to retirement. Now is the new and old replacement period of aircraft, so look more quantitatively
20 years ago, the old China, someone could be ignorant and say something about their poor quality. But today, with them leading in the industry in telecommunication, digital currency, artificial intelligence, solar energy, space travel, military technology etc soon semiconductors. China is a more formidable opponent than most would be willing to admit. China should move forward even with the haters and the haters that teach their children their toxicity.
Here're the operational numbers of various Chinese warplanes, according to latest estimates: J-7: mostly retired or on reserve, only around 50 to 60 J-7G variant still in active service J-8: mostly retired or on reserve, only around 50 J-8F variant in active service J-10: 500+ in service (all variants combined) J-11B: 300+ in service J-15: 50+ J-16: 200+ in service J-20: somewhere between 60 to 100 are in service Su-30MKK: 73 in service Su-30MK2: 24 in service Su-35: 24 in service JH-7/7A: around 240 are in service H-6K: around 100 in service H-6J: around 20+ H-6N: 4+ KJ-500: 36+ KJ-200: 13+ KJ-2000: 4 KQ-200: 50+
@@moorishwarrior341 Vietnam was bad for the USAF, at first, but they adapted their tactics. And Afghanistan didn't shoot down any USAF planes. I think Iraq shot down one coalition plane back in the first Gulf War, but it wasn't an American plane. And there was one F117 shot down in Kosovo. Are you confusing the US Army or the USMC with the USAF? Rookie mistake, junior. The USAF is the best in the world and their record is unmatched by any country. You may want to do a bit of research on that fact that they suffer so few losses due to enemy action.
@@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 USAF never fought a peer level adversary such as Russia and China, even though the USAF is the #1 in the world in terms of technology, training and numbers, it doesn't make other air forces such as that of China and Russia less capable.
@@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 It is a very target rich environment. Unfortunately for the US the environment in question is 100 miles from China, and thousands of miles from the US. I will geninely eat my hat if the US lasts more than 2 weeks before quitting/being defeated. Such a battle is almost impossible to win.
China has also been upgrading its oldest planes with AI in order to turn the jets into unmanned drones. That would increase their effectiveness considering that China wouldn't need to waste good pilots on older aircraft, which will now serve a reconnaissance and decoy roles. China can send out dozens or even hundreds of these jets in a first wave strike while actual manned and advanced jets fly among them undetected.
The Chinese are testing quantum communications and 6G from satellites !! For the Chinese to turn their factories on war footing ... China can product 10 times more planes, tanks etc for each one they lose .
6:30 the video states that the numbers of the J-20 are low, but by early 2023, the PLA Airforce has 200-250 x J-20 in service (7-8 x Brigades). This shows just how rapidly the PLA is able to build new equipment in a few years.
Nothing else, but Chinese dragons do not breathe fire. Chinese dragons are generally a symbol of wind and rain. In ancient mythology, they are generally good-natured gods in charge of rivers, oceans, and rain. Anyway, as a Chinese, I have never heard of a Chinese dragon that breathes fire.😃😉
Nice video Binkov! Could you make a video on the Afghanistan situation? Like what if Tajikistan (with and without Russia) fought a limited war with the Taliban?
Fr tho, I once saw a winnie the flu bot respond to an Indian human commenter on account of… well, account name alone… with a schoolyard insult; least racist wumao. What do they even think trying this desperately to spread their vile brand of ultra-nationalism will achieve, and what will it do to help their country’s already-crumbling reputation?
All the comments below are made with no access to accurate performance and schematic data, we have no idea how these planes will fare until they engage in combat with peer opponents.
@@chrome505 china closes of all information about it's military all information about it what they want everyone to think they lied about there economy lied who not to question these logic and Sense but I am curious what are you talking about
One thing to always keep in mind, planes, ships, tanks...they're ultimately just tools. It's the people operating them that determine how effective they are.
Yeah, but the young generation of US navy haven't had the real experience in this kind of warfare either. I'm not sure if the naval exercises with the Russian have provided Chinese with enough experience. But I won't underestimate the Chinese, they are formidable people. On the ground the US can't beat them, but on the sea, maybe.
I mean it's pretty obvious USAF is one of power projection and maintaining American status quo, the status quo being able to power project. I don't dislike that about America at all, as given the same opportunity and circumtances, China would likely do the same thing, and I don't trust the Chinese government.
@Simon Whittaker IAF actually bought second hand typhoons so that they can recycle the parts off those aircrafts to repair their current typhoons lol so pathetic. I guess they make good money from the call centers.
even if they lack of experience or quality compare to west but im pretty sure in the war time they can Mass produce them like Soviet union during Operation barbarossa
@@Fauzanarief-n7i seriously, since when young west pilots have enough war experience against a sizable global powerhouse? They fought in Afghanistan for twenty years and do Afghan even have air defenses missiles or air forces? Lol. In turns of flight hours, west pilots still have an advantage over Chinese pilots but not as far.
Whatever it is. There is no aircraft record of Gen 4 vs Gen 4. Most of the previous wars always has been Gen 4 vs Gen 3. The war will pretty much be a much worse version of the Korean War that would lead to WWIII
People act like America has fought a modern military before lmfao What, did the Iraqis have Hypersonic missiles, 5th gen stealth fighters and satellite blockade technology? Or did Afgans process 055 destroyers or modern submarines? Nobody has ACTUAL experience, even all the mockups and joined exercises are just untested theories.
Not specifically, more just expert in whatever they binged on RUclips last week. They even scoff at people that don’t know something they just found out.
Wait until the Chinese figure out what it really costs to maintain a large air force. You have to figure in things like admin costs, waste disposal, fuel, people shortage, storage, maintenance, etc.
Given that China is accused of opacity in their defense spending and their reported inventory, i believe they might have considerably more stuff than they let on.
Well China is very opinion driven nation. While countries like Russia and the US will try to hide their best the Chinese will not just show it but they will boast about it for a long time. So it is more likely the Chinese are overestimating what they have and how advanced their tech is rather than the opposite.
@@ulikemyname6744 The US and Russia also brag as hell about how this or that weapon system is the unbeatable game changer that will dominate any enemy. Every great power needs some chest thumping, but in many matters China guides itself by the Art of War.
@@ilnigromante666 China has way to many internal problems with corruption. China is cutting corners in every way possible. That's one downside of China. The other is that they are kinda used to stealing tech meaning they are not capable of producing on in the same quality as America. China is bragging about things they don't have and things that they have on paper but don't work as advertised
To the professional warfare experts here in the comments section, remember the words of Artanis, high lord of the Templar : "Don't think of you as victorious yet, overconfidence is your enemy's best ally" or something like that,idk, I skipped the cinematics :v
I'm actually terrified of how close Taiwan, south Korea , Japan, Philippines the countries that china is messing with especially Philippines and Taiwan
@@mrcaboosevg6089 🤦🏻♂️ apparently, my comment wasn't simple enough to be understood. Here's what I'm saying, your original comment was meant to belittle China's airforce, hence I replied with sarcasm. To put it simply, if they are target practice. Why don't you guys go and train then? You're acting as if America has experience fighting any country. Remember, Germany's army was taken as a joke before it was too late.
@@sirbluebeetle2875 ah you have a anti American view on things.... you do know America is the most battle proven force right win lose or just occupying a nation.
They are well experienced against ground targets with no air cover, the USAF last air combat experience was in Kosovo and the first Gulf war, well over 20 years ago
@@gabbyprincip1575 Desert Storm was 30 years ago. Most old hands from that era have retired from service and that includes the entirety of the pilots. Same case with the ones who flew in Kosovo - their contracts ended well over a decade ago, I'd say.
The closest adversary the US has every face was the Iraqi Airforce in Dessert Storm, and those monkey model MiG-29s were way behind in tech/training compared to the USAF. I don't think the US every faced a near peer adversary like China today so all those experience in War on Terror and later conflicts are largely irrelevant when it comes to anything other then air to ground strikes
In terms of quality, Chinese air force PLAAF is already superior to USAF. J16>F15ex, J10c>F16v, J20>F22/35, J16D>EA-18G, KJ2000>E3, PL15>AIM120, PL10e=AIM9x. The only disadvantage is quantity.
@@dsong2006 Not to mention that the Iraqi air force was also completely exhausted after sustaining heavy casualties during the Iran-Iraq war. The USAF last proper engagement against an equally matched adversary was probably North Vietnam
It is not just the USAF that china has to worry about the USN and USMC. There air doctrine differs enough that in combat it would be difficult to know whom you are fighting. I say this with the F35 coming out in more numbers in each service.
Even if the Chinese built more J-20's we're supposed to believe the J-20 alone is gonna stop the US. Especially when not only does the US have F-22 and F-35's but also the F-15EX and B-2 Spirit at its disposal. The US on airpower alone can outmatch even 300 J-20's and shoot down every J-16 or any other support craft. Even before they got onto the runway. The B-2 bombers alone woukd wreak havoc on their airfields and runways.
Lolz..Actually the second largest fleet of aircraft after the US Air Force is the US Navy, followed by the US Army, followed by Russian AF, followed by US marines, followed by China. The US has over 13,500 military aircraft.
There's no need to worry, My Chinese friends told me that China is a agricultural country and all of their jets are used to seed. So, China is not a dragon or tiger but just a farmer.
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In a mayor conflict it will not be so important who has the most planes, but who can build the most planes. Acces to recources will be critical, and so naval power will play a huge role.
They don’t want to alienate their main source of ad revenue- unless of course they’re russian, in which case they’d have a media time bomb on their hands at this point and would eventually have to address it for fear of being cancelled
The essence of war is not the strength of weapons. Surrendering the enemy without fighting is the highest strategy. Winning with odds and winning with less is the best tactic.The right time and place and the right people, and the indestructible will is the key to victory. The development of more advanced weapons is to better protect own country and people, not to use force to invade and bully others.
Taiwan would disagree about what you're using those weapons for 😉 by that logic we could say that Europe and Africa are American based on historical ties
@B J the us is actually concerned that those "real life experience" is teaching their military all the wrong lessons for a war against a great power like china or russia.
@@mxn1948 They are probably right. WW1 British generals were notorious for sending their men over the trenches straight into German machine gun fire, when those same tactics worked well against poorly armed natives with limited firepower.
Thing is they can mass produced in short notice, or without notice under emergency and they got all the resources. Maybe a little short on fuel. But they can invade Mongolia and Design Mongolian coal power jets lol
lack of air to ground weapons, air lifting capabilities, oversea bases, but strong at air to air, air to ship. PLAF is focusing on self protection instead of attacking
Paper tiger is more like it. There is no substitute for aerial combat vets training new pilots. There's very few Chinese combat pilots with recent flight hours in actual combat conditions. Any furball with US Navy and Air Force pilots will result in a turkey shoot, with horrible losses for the Chinese.
When will we see Chinese bombers flying off the coast of the USA? Russia used to do that, China never has. Chinese fishing boats are more of a threat than PLAAF!
@@tclements8331 nah it won't happen within the decade. As many people knows that only the American has the abilities to strike any country in the world within 48 hours.
More like teenage redwood tree, given how unbelievably behind they are compared to the US. The very best of what China has is maybe a match for our older jets in the USAF, and their training and experience are decades behind ours.
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Do a video on a Third World War scenario in the 2020’s, it would be real fun
Why the fuck does this comment says 22 hours ago but the video shows 40 mins ago.
Chinas foot soilders might have a Lil chance with are foot soilders American but there air force can't compare to the us air force we been upgrading since the cold war right 💯💯
Yes pls do a WW3 scenario
China is not a dragon. 🤣🤣🤣China never won any war in last 800 years. China was a very weak country throughout history. China was always invaded and ruled by foreign nations like Mongols, Khitans, Xiongnu(Hun), Turkic, Jurchens, Xianbei, Uyghurs, Japan, Korea, Britain, Australia. Japan is the real dragon. Japan conquered Beijing in 1937. Chinese don't even know how to fight.
Actually I've heard that FedEx has the second largest plane fleet in the world.
Yeah but they very rarely bomb people and as they're American they tend to only bomb allies.
Well they can bomb with their packages
@@tomwithey711 Why is a plane fleet solely identified by its ability to bomb?
Lmao fedex is a logistic company btw 😭🤣
@@rehan-ci1tk NOOOOOOOOOOO! REALLY?! I HAD NO IDEA ABOUT THIS FACT!!!! IT'S NOT LIKE FEDEX IS THE SINGLE LARGEST POSTAGE SERVICE IN THE HISTORY OF THE HUMAN RACE OR ANYTHING! I thank you for your hard hitting journalistic work citizen, now go, the world needs you!
(in case you can't tell, SEVERE sarcasm was implied there).
suddenly everyone in the comment section becomes 5 star generals.
Nah
I am the financier
Do you want some loans to buy more billion dollar air planes and ships?
If you can't pay back.
Just start another war with Middle East or South America
Plenty of oil over there
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@Ben Dover I'm stealing that...just so you know.
That's because we've all been playing "Supremacy 1914". Did you even watch the video?
Really? We're all Multi Millionaire Board Members for Weapons Corporations?? Where do I cash my Stock options?
Mate, i don't know about Air force high commands but given the track record of some of the US generals recently i'd say the armchair generals aren't that unqualified in comparison lmao.
"Drones launched from a bomber"
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I understood that reference
Fuck, not the Arsenal Bird. Not fucking again!
@@chasetoyama8184 "Shit, they had that combat ready the whole time"
10 SECONDS UNTIL THE UNITED ATTACK ON THE ARSENAL BIRD
@@chasetoyama8184 Embrace the fucking pain baby! me after completing the game multiple times on max difficulty *cracks knuckles and hold my last shred of will to live closer*
China is looking at Russia and going "you mean to tell me all those hours we spent reverse engineering your planes were a waste of our time?"
Why are there always Indian military „experts“ in the comment sections of every binkov video even if it has nothing to do with India?? Like I don’t have anything against Indians but I’m just saying🤷🏻♂️
Cuz Hyena
@@RiseAgainst786 Hyena??
Because they drive around doing their Uber eats job and sometimes have nothing to do so they become expert RUclips commentators.
@@jayl3855 Hyena. 🇨🇳
@@thetreekeeper143 Unlike you, who's an amateur youtube commentator?
Come on now. Back to the basement with you.
For me, the calculus on this boils down to training flight hours and combat experience. Building a large air force doesn't make you a great military threat in the air any more than buying a really nice piano makes you a world-class musician.
Yeah I'd say the same thing about the US military being too reliant on the internet and Cia
No amount of training can make up for obsolete technologies.
@@oattyrant2035 you can’t say the same thing about us considering we have decades of combat flight experience in every air frame we fly, in every different condition you can think of.
@@colorblindvids not so useful when the air craft are overly expensive and slow to replace, I imagine a future world War with lower tech to increase production but hey who knows what will happen
Well, Chinese did show they can quickly amass large aircraft formations and send them to Taiwan AIZ. That shows they do know how to do a thing or two. Neither US nor China have anything close to at peer experience in air war. Certainly US has advantage if they met in the middle of nowhere but China is on home front defending meaning its logistics is easier not to mention extra systems that can be used.
USAF has more to worry about from US bureaucrats and its own ineptitude than it does any foreign power.
It has frequently been said that the USA wins its battles in the field, but then always loses its wars in Washington.
well china is buying more bureaucrats and telling them what to do....so you sir are very correct
Don't worry Gen Milley will be on the phone with the PLA advising them of any US actions at least a 5 hours before hand.
Well the US politicians have to many problems at home, and they dont really seem like they want to fix them since that would mean less profits for their lobbists.
US is stuck in an evil circle atm. Wont be able to face China like that.
They are gonna need a population that cooperates if they are going to hope to face China. The odds are allready stacked against them from the huge population difference.
Having a population at "war" with eachother, is not gonna help things thats for sure.
@@MelbaOzzie Hum... The US has won some battlefield engagements, but WWII was the last time the US won a war. Everything since has either been a stalemate or humiliating failure.
This video is surprisingly neutral. Info available from public sources are quite carefully gathered and presented. There is a tiny amount of direct comparison with the US but that wasn't the main part of the video at all. The comment section on the other hand is just hilarious.
The comment section is basically edgelord teens aging boomers and lots of bots.
"This is Les Grossman who is this?"
"This is FLAMING. DRAGON."
I was totally going to post this!!!
Asia. Is. MY. Territory
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what a great movie!
"First, take a big step back... and literally, FUCK YOUR OWN FACE!"
usa: Hey South East ASEAN don't worry we are here to help you from China invasion!
*usa literally came to South East ASEAN after leaving Afghanistan*
@@我爱您中国 dude what are you talking about I was just making a reference to a movie called tropic thunder
What would be interesting is an analysis made by someone from the past.
For example, analyzing the strengths of each side in 1914 or 1940, before the fighting began.
I second this!
From what I can see, the Chinese Air force is most likely relegating a lot of the anti-ground role to drones.
From the vast array of the Caihong (CH) family of propeller drones to the ultra-stealthy flying wing attack drone of the GJ-11.
In terms of drone variety China has the Americans beat, China even has Early Warning radar drone, the Divine Eagle, which forms part of a distributed AWACS system. Where the Early warning radar drone can fly much longer and farther than manned AWACS.
Which is pretty peculiar how slow the US is advancing in different mission sets for drone warfare. A lot of good designs gets canned, it shows a general dismissive attitude towards drone technology. Something the US air force will regret.
I would imagine that much of the US drone program is highly classified and surrounded by disinformation.
Indian netizens are incredible creatures.
I don't think we can say that many of these designs get "canned." They're made for a reason, and it's also important to remember that while the Chinese are on their own, the U.S. has a great number of advanced allies that may be developing their own drone tech that the U.S. military will buy. If Finland, for example, came up with a great strike platform, why re-invent it? The U.S. has also developed the Stingray tanker drone, which could also be used for electronic attack and that is absolutely being deployed, Australia has developed a loyal wingman air-to-air combat drone which is now under consideration for U.S. adoption, and the B-21 is rumored to have an unmanned strike capability - literally a drone the size of an actual strategic stealth bomber. I'd say America is okay.
@@VisibilityFoggy Compared to China and the US, the American allies' drone program are a rounding error. even the traditional military powers of UK and France has a rather lackluster drone development program.
The advantages of drones are the fact that they are an expendable platform, claiming B-21 having unmanned capabilities means nothing when considering how expensive it is.
The idea of a platform being both manned and unmanned is possibly just a sales pitch. If taken seriously, it'll produce a platform that is jack of both trades and master of none, because it'll have the expense and weight of a manned aircraft with the absence of the expendable nature of UAVs.
So B-21 may just be a bomber that have high automation, rather than designed as a manned drone bomber.
Who knows believing in a sales pitch is not the first time the US military fell into a ditch. the last one was the F-35B. and the so called 1 plane 3 branches slogan.
I think China just steals militarily technology that’s why they progress so fast…
While impressive on paper, numbers doesn't equal quality. Since most of their air fleet is either out of date or untested we will not know how well these will perform outside of a real war. Specs on a plane can always be to impress people. But show me how it works in a joint arms environment. How does it fair during stress test? How much a beating does it take? Maintenance? Refuel/Reloading time. Ability to repair and upgrade. The number of people you need to support a single airplane? Where can it land/take off from? How does it fare with different weapon systems?
Experience is king, chinese veterans fighting american conscripts in the korean war could win even when the Americans had better equipment. Finnish veterans slaughtered their better equipped, more numerous Soviet enemies. In their century of humiliation the chinese got curb stomped by European armies who were more experienced even when the chinese imported equivalent weapons, had 10x the men, and had a home field advantage. Russia took a similar beating in their first war with Japan with the well trained navy slaughtering the more numerous Russian equivalents. China has always had a mediocre air force that relied heavily on soviet trainers, Soviet experts, and Soviet equipment and during WW2 the same happened with America being their supporter.
Pretty much anyone in the military when given the choice between a piece of equipment with a proven track record that's produced by someone you know and trust and another equivalent that has better specs on paper and is produced by someone who's been known to consistently lie about their performance everyone will choose the proven piece of equipment. Doesnt matter if it's a rifle, a pair of boots, or a modern fighter jet.
Theres also the issue that China has always had to import experts, import equipment, steal tech, and copy foreign ideas and methods. That doesnt bode well for their quality.
The numbers for AEW&C planes are also outdated, according to latest estimates China now has 36+ KJ-500, 13+ KJ-200, and 4 KJ-2000 in service. And in recent years they've also been adding up their ASW plane fleet, with around 50+ KQ-200 in service.
Can you run me down on the capabilities and specifications of those broadly as sourced in chinese publications, please? It's very rare to get a domestic assessment, not least since the script and language are such a barrier.
@@qarmatianwarhorse6028 AFAIK, the detection range for fighter-sized objects for KJ-500 is around 470 km according to domestic assessment. Not sure about the data for KJ-200 and KJ-2000 though.
Actually, there is nothing to be scared about china. China will not invade any country, maybe only United states will invade china.
@@isaacchinyijie3825 The Vietnam and Korean wars, not to mention the Japanese war of aggression in the 1930's and 1940's, have taught the US that land wars in Asia cannot be won
against China or any reasonably well supplied Asian country. Defensive wars involving lots of water are more in line with what the US does well.
@@isaacchinyijie3825 Actually, there is nothing to be scared about German Reich. The German Reich will not invade any country, maybe only France and Britain will invade the German Reich
I honestly dont understand why the people who is leaving salty pathetic comments are still subscribed to the channel. its like you want the truth but you can't handle the truth so ima be salty here to gain some self esteem 😭😭
The blind patriotism. They want others to agree with them not to question them.
One obvious but sometimes overlooked factor that perhaps ought to be noted when comparing the numbers is that America has only a fraction of her naval and air assets deployed in East Asia at any given time, while China can draw upon nearly her entire military might in the opening stages of a conflict.
Thus, America would be greatly outnumbered for some time in any clash with China (occurring within the first island chain) until reinforcements can arrive.
Were Japan or South Korea to actively join in, this imbalance would be majorly offset, of course.
The best way for any western power would be economic blockade of China. China is just like Germany in WW1 and WW2 export and import dependent. China is not self sufficient from a food perspective. US Submarine force is number 1 in world. Close off strait of Malacca / bomb choke points on inland routes. Sink any COSCO merchant ships and China is Toast.
That is the main weakness of the US military. Because it is so spread out, regional powers will have an advantage in any surprise engagement and this is partly why the US relies on NATO for defending against USSR/Russia, West Europe alone was not strong enough to defend against the USSR, and the US would not have able to respond fast enough to protect against a Soviet invasion alone. This is why the US is working on security partnerships and alliances like QUAD and AUKUS, since China’s growing military power is too much for the US alone.
@@robertfrost1683 From food perspective they do, but the other raw material are not. the things is they import foods because they're cheaper.
@@robertfrost1683 This is the way to start a war, if you mean to do this during the war, then wouldn't China protect its main ports and supply chains? Also there will be rationing in any country that is in a major war, US included.
Worlds Largest Air force: USAF
Worlds Second Largest Air force: United States Navy, not inculding the USMC
Worlds Third Largest Air Force: The United States Marine Corps
Earths largest corporation: The United States Department of Defense.
We haven't even taken off our shirt. It'd be great if China just did everybody a favor and calmed down.
When US and its allies went to war against China, this time, it will be like the continuation of Korea War.
The war in Korea is unfinished war.
No one won the war. It was a stale mate.
Chinese army fought the Allies under US Army command without air force to cover their Army from the sky, without navy to stop the Allies from landing in Korean soil.
The Chinese Army was no match in all fronts against the US and its allies.
The Chinese don't have military industrial base to manufactured weapons at that time. Most of their weapons were remnants of the weapons surrendered by Japanese army at the end of WW2. Some were loan by Russia to China.
Despite all the odds, the Chinese army were able to stale mate the war and prevented America from occupying North Korea.
I don't know what would be the outcome this time when US and its Allies once again against the Chinese Army which is different from the Chinese Army during Korea War.
Maybe those US Allies who joined the US army in the Korea War should rejoin with their US master to resume the unfinished war.
No turning back.
It's very impressive to see a huge progress that chinese military made in the last 20 years. Honestly a very few of us from the West expected that to happen.
That’s because western media doesn’t cover Chinas progress. They only publish negative news.
It has but a major war with the US would be utterly disastrous.The US in the Pacific would wreak massive destruction with their air and naval power and be backed by Japan and South Korea .Most countries are far more worried about Chinese expansion than American influence.America is a divided society but there is strong bi partisan fear of China.America is top dog in the Pacific and intends to stay that way.
@@Marvin-dg8vj Eh, the missile and rocket tech China has is not something you can just overlook.
@@Marvin-dg8vj Utterly delusional, the only war that could arise in the region would be one between China and Taiwan, and if the US does intervene then its Pacific Fleet will be obliterated as it is largely outnumbered. The US can bully countries like Iran and Russia with its larger navy but not China in its backyard.
@@Marvin-dg8vj I don't expect direct military confrontation between US and China, as it would be devastating for the World economy, but in the next few decades regional war there is highly likely, with many unresolved problems and frozen conflicts (Taiwan, North Korea) some things are inevitable.
It’s been a year now and. Here is an example of chinese manufacturing at its finest, the numbers of J-20s got to squadron level and they also made new YY-20 and KJ-600
Yea Chinas ability to absolutely churn out hardware should not be underestimated. Currently they have 21 shipyards to build warships and the US has 4. They have overtaken the US in certain areas of manufacturing (like warships) and could overtake them in a lot more areas of manufacturing if the US isn’t careful. Here in the US we’re too busy blowing our $858 billion budget on corruption.
@@FerociousPancake888 simply scary
They can turn out of the equipment they want, but if the pilots flying them are not constantly training and flying, they are nothing more than targets for better trained pilots. Commanders also have to be constantly trained in how to implement these aircraft, pilots, and systems. The US pilots are constantly training and have more flight time than just about any other nation in the world.
@@Sethiol73 true true, but you know training counts as fly time as well right?
@@FerociousPancake888 even crazier is the fact congress still wanted to keep LCS in service for a decade more, that was 2 years ago. The shipyard problem is still not being fixed, renovations are still ongoing and are already over budget. The sea wolf class sub that grounded on a reef in East China Sea won’t come back into service in 2027 because we don’t have enough dry docks to repair her.
planes don't take off just anywhere. I believe no amount of planes can change that until cargo planes with uav fleets come onto their own
Korean War Aces:
US=40
China, Russia, N. Korea= 76
Western claim of 10:1 kill ratio is utter nonsense and and as always underestimate the enemy's kill numbers.
@@davedave2551 lol... you think china still using Guns for dog fights? Chinese also have BVR missiles which are more advanced then anything rhe west has and longer range then the American AMRAAM at 120 km the Chinese PL-15 has range of 300km so the smoking holes in the ground will be reserved for the warmongering western powers. China has already surpassed the west in tech, cyber, electronic and jamming warfare. You forgetting Vietnam where over 4000 smoking holes were made by Americans combat aircrafts alone not counting the helicopter.
@@davedave2551 lol... I wouldn't know about Beijing weather. Your attitude is typical denial China has surpassed the west. It took China 40 years to achieve what the west has taken 100 year moveover China has a massive lead in tech weapons developed every project China dose is under budget and ahead of scschedule.live with it accept it it the new reality. China and CCP made its self Great again. Lol wish you all the best and good health, Sir/Madam
@@Ace-Av8er I've seen made in China. And ,yeah. Not to mention, they have no combat experience. They can't even take back an island just off its coast. The west will blockade China, with the help of Japan, India and Taiwan. China won't be able to import enough or export. Winning without much of a fight. No one likes China. No one. They have fake friends who take money from them. That's about it
@@davedave2551 China directly or indirectly beat the living daylights out of US and its cronies in Korea and Vietnam with its so call cheap copies and a pesant Army and will do it again if provoked into a war again. This time China is technically more advanced then the west and widening the gap at dizzying rate every month.
And I believe the Chinese military does use satellite-guided precision strike weapons, if they are offering those in the export market then there's no way they wouldn't use those domestically. They already have the Beidou system which is similar to GPS. The reason why we don't really see them using those in their trainings is likely because those're rather expensive and are mostly reserved for actual conflicts rather than training.
Yeah because they're more of a cheap. But I got a question regarding about the new armored vehicle called VN-22, will they [PLA] use the VN-22 or not?
Probably a wise idea is to sell aircraft and associated weapons to Iran which is involved in the Syrian conflict and Pakistan which has horns locked with India. Observe their efficiency in combat situation, then use the data from that to further development cycle.
It would save the PLAAF having to get it's hands dirty, bring in much-needed arms sales money AND serve as case studies.
@@roj22fetals6 No, AFAIK VN-22 is solely for export, though it's quite possible that a domestic variant has been produced.
No, GPS/Beidou guided bomb are cheap. US sells a sleeve which you can put on to normal bomb to make it precision bomb. It is costs like 2000 dollars~ Even cheaper in China.
wars are expensive and if they don't train with their weapons, they will fail miserly in real combat.
"Flaming Dragon or a baby Tiger?"
i would be more worried about the baby tiger, they will one day grow up to become a threat. a flaming dragon you take to a gay bar and it will be too distracted to ever bother you ever again.
Don´t know which it is. However, the US should be wise to remember what happened the last time they tangled with China. Back then the chinese had nothing but huge numbers of infantry. And they still pushed the US back. Remember Chosin Reservoir? If they did that with infantry, what do you think they will do with modern tanks, aircraft, and nukes? Just a thought...
@@Biden_is_demented they had more than huge infantry going for them. They also had Soviets flying Mig-15s for them, T55s... Korea was a modern conflict for the time. NK had USSR backing and equipment. Also the war would have gone far different if a certain general had his way. If anything a modern direct conflict between US and China now would only stay non nuclear so long.. so all the conjecture is pointless.
@@noneyadamnbusiness6891 The few russian/chinese aircraft were almost inconsequential. The real bulk was in the infantry. Yes, NK had covert USSR backing. But the US had the UN behind it. They had a much bigger force, and hundreds of tanks, carriers, etc. By all accounts, the US should have won, right? But they didn´t. And given subsequent conflicts and its disappointing results, we can expect a new US war to end just the same: with the US bolting and giving up, as soon as China commits to an all out war. And for China, any war with the US will represent an existential threat. So they are bound to fully commit. And fighting a +1 billion chinese won´t be no picnic. Something the generals at the Pentagon won´t even acknowledge to. And pride comes before the fall...
@@Biden_is_demented China has way to many internal issues to win a war with the US. Demographics, water, lack of innovation, housing market collapse etc.
Actually, there is nothing to be scared about china. China will not invade any country, maybe only United states will invade china.
IM not CHINESE
But i know if China and US are friends, all people in the world will be filled with happiness and peace!
China is rapidly closing the technological gap it had with West & Russia. I just can't understand why Russia sold a dozen of their best fighters (4 gen Su-35?) to be immediately reverse-engineered.
Because it was either they sell it to them now and make some money or not sell them and China will just close that technological gap anyway.
@@Ankhobo Aha. I think I can understand the point. But is Russia going to be able to make SU-57's enough? So far they seem to have been very lazy on that.
@@HiReeZin I don't think they've been lazy. I think the Su-57 has ultimately proven to be more of a concept demonstrator than a deployable platform. If Russia were smart, she would take the Su-57 program and use it as the basis for a sixth-gen fighter. The issue, of course, is engine tech. This goes for China as well. Neither of them have the technology that the U.S. and Europe have developed to provide an equivalent level of reliability, fuel economy and, perhaps most important for platforms like the Su-57, heat signature reduction.
@@HiReeZin Probably because Su-57 is still in its development to a version that is worthy for mass production
@@mokutan8334 Don’t think that, it’s just that they do t have the funds, they just don’t think it’s worth the money, instead they build more SAM and almost as good SU-35 and upgrade older SU-30.
This may an odd comparison, but my wife is Chinese. She expects everything in her personal life to be cheap and fast. She makes rude comments on how long it takes for building projects in Ca, saying that they would have been completed in a fraction of the time in China. We have a saying in engineering; cheap, fast or right, pick any two. So if Chinese mentality is to always pick fast and cheap, it's unlikely that it will be right. Add the corruptions issues, and the US may be in good shape.
the government and the people are not the same. we are good people only the government are ruining our image. also western propaganda
However, China has got the best quality for its quickly built infrastructure. China makes best cement in the world, like the strongest one to build Sanxia, and developed the cement for under sea tunnels after two years of hard research. As for the cheap part, take the subway as an example. China has its own tunnel boring machine and most experienced tunnel makers in the world, so why wouldn’t they be more effective?
Also that very disappointed at Israel for Equipting China with Very State Of The Art Technologies.
"We are 'Flaming Dragon'" :D :D :D (Tropic Thunder)
2:23 where do I donate to the J-8 conservation fund?
Trust me man, Mig-21 is way better than your trashy J-8.
@@hujiaming6151 the J-8III is a beautiful plane, but probably belongs in a museum with it MiG-23 and Su-15 cousins
The training level china has recently raised up to US standards to make up the huge gap of technologies that our fighter aircrafts lacks but from recent reports it was only specifically for cargo based planes not fighter aircrafts. Moreover, US is soon rising their training standards to raf standards of 18.5 hours per day average if I’m not mistaken. Furthermore, the aircrafts technological difference is just like huge which plays a huge part in here. However, when a war breaks out naval and airforce or ground troops becomes useless against nuclear missiles which ends humanity which is why people are begging for no war.
We left out the greatest Chinese asset of all - American investors who don't want their cash cow blown up 🐮💁🇺🇲🛠️🇷🇺
Yeah, well, China seems to be doing all they can to get rid of foreign investors in their country, which is why quite a few companies have moved manufacturing out of China (e.g. Samsung moving smartphone production from China to India).
@@Schnittertm1 That has been their MO for years, invite in foreign investors, use their close proximity to steal their IP and once they are able to make their own copies, kick the foreign business out. What boggles my mind is that businesses see this occurring and still go into China. Do they think the same thing won't happen to them or something? What's the definition of insanity again?
@@Tekisasubakani BUsiness are concerned about short-term profits. China takes advantage of it.
You forgot the greatest asset the Chinese have: Joe Biden.
FDI from US counts 6% of total FDI that China harbored
The comments are a toxic wasteland
Seems alright to me, don't think the Hindutvas have arrived yet
I take that back, they've arrived
haha I saw a lot of denials and sour grapes already lol
Reading the comments almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter
@@justsomeguy1019 OK, profligate
The second biggest air-
US Navy: *no*
I think the better judgement of Chinese equipment won't come from its use by China itself, but from its costumers. Countries like Nigeria and Pakistan have purchased Armored vehicles and aircraft from China and their more likely to use them in action first.
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Scary thing is , they don't have any j-10c , j 16 and j-20 fighter in 2015
Now they have around 500+ , safe to assume they will have 1000+ 4++ and 5th gen fighter by 2025
They also upgrading their j-11b with new engine and AESA radars.
They are pulling a Belka on the USA. It's pretty amazing, in a grim sense.
Every country always does that. I knew they existed before 2015. The US has been building the F/A-XX since atleat 2015 and would love it if China just thought it was propaganda. And it is still classified how many F-35s the US has. And I don't care what anybody says a J-20 is not even close to a 5th generation Figher, and it would lose to a F-16 any day of the week in BVR. The US Air Force still to this day debates on whether or not it's a third gen or a 4th Gen fighter pathetically. It has 3rd gen engines that give off a ton of infrared heat, and it's radar cross section is about twice the size of a 1978 F-16C. But some people like to wank it up to a fourth gen just because of it's avionics alone. The US Air Force built a j-20 for target practice, and say even with F-35 stealth technology that it's airframe is just simply too bad to ever have significant stealth.
@@electrolysisresearch8013 Pure load of bs....
With J10C, J16 and J20 .... you have no chance esp when these are armed with PL15 which outranges anything US has.
The Chinese planes will fire the missiles and return to base while your planes will be jumping like monkeys avoiding them PL15 at mach 4.
Dare to say any of the plane can take on the old F16 hahahahahhahah keep dreaming
@@hkfoo3333
And a j-10 isn't going to do shit, they already got their asses beat almost 7 to 1 in BVR by Thailand's 4th generation fighters. And I'm pretty sure at this point that a J-10 is better than a J-16. And the US literally built a j-20 and even used F-35 stealth technology on it, and said even with their most advanced stealth technology it still had around twice as large of a radar cross section as the 1978 F-16c, because the airframe is just too bad to have real Stealth. And all now all US F-16s are now either block 70 or extremely close. China doesn't even have anything I would call a 4th generation fighter their Air Force is absolutely pathetic.
@@electrolysisresearch8013 I don't comment about any Chinese jets, but I am pretty sure F-16 that USAF uses were from earlier 2000 and block 50/52 standard. And USAF didn't upgrade their any F-16 to F-16V as it cost the same as F-35.
China's military ambition is to secure the third island chain to protect its huge reliance on global supply lines. It's surrounded by powerful potential enemies (India, Japan). It's about regional dominance only. It has an aging population and 1.4 billion people to feed, most of its energy and food come through shipping routes. The USA can sit like it always did across the world and simply take advantage of it's perfect geographical location. It doesn't rely on world trade to make it's money and feed it's people. It's self sufficient with no enemies close by. China climbed to the position it's in through none of its own doing, only by the global scenario created by the USA's huge navy maintaining world peace/trade. The USA will simply sit back and let China deal with all the problems now and bankrupt itself in doing so. Hence leaving Afghanistan, it's China's problem now.
USA self sufficient? You can't eat paper money for dinner LOL.
Hope Joe Biden raise the tariff rate to 50% on all Chinese imports and finger cross you have stored enough toilet paper rolls. Good luck.
@@dopeyking3766 the USA has the largest open space of agricultural land. It can easily feed it's own population. It's only 330 million people. Its energy needs are also met internally. China is the opposite, most of its food and like 80% of its energy demands are imported through two shipping lanes.
Pakistan will step in if there's a war between China and India
@@danielhandika8767 an all out war is very doubtful, China is not stupid, war is far too destructive and as a communist party dragging your people into hell doesn't look too good on you. It will be proxy conflicts and a slow push for regional power.
US Navy for the win. God bless out sailors.
I would say paper tigers.
Isn't it weird that in the start of the video the sum of chinese and russian planes is exactly equal to the US ones?
Yep, fun fact.
coincidence
It’s because China/Russia already form a defacto alliance.
I tend to agree with Binkov's analysis here.
While China's military (for the moment) is growing in leaps and bounds, whether or not that can be sustained over a long period of time remains to be seen, especially considering the problems China is now experiencing in their economy, population, real estate and banking system.
China is also only a regional power at this time (although they would like the world to think otherwise), without the actual capability of global power projection (which, again, could change over time), and has yet to engage their military in any sort of meaningful military conflict with another aggressor, large or small.
Either way, they still have a long, long way to go to catch up to US power projection, logistics, worldwide bases of operations, strong military allies and technological capabilities, as literally everything is simply a re-engineering of some other country's tech, airframes, ships, tanks, vehicles, small arms, etc.
It will be an interesting ten years or so.
I am old enough to remember when Japan (in the 1970s) was the "world's 2nd largest economy", and expected to overtake the US "anytime" as an economic world power.
I am seeing the same claims being made (in the moment) about China.
And we know how that eventually played out.
Japan is a mere shadow of what it once was in that decade.
So is Russia a mere shadow (militarily speaking) of what the old Soviet Union was during the Cold War.
Time has a funny way of making sharp U-turns at the strangest times.
And history has already shown us, time and time again, that "strength in numbers" does not necessarily translate to "power."
Comparing Japan with China is totally irrelevant, with US stationed troop , Japan is literally the US's piggy bank
@@dwniu2000 *Comparing Japan with China is totally irrelevant*
As I stated in my OP, economically, they are identical.
And economically, they are following the exact same path.
*with US stationed troop , Japan is literally the US's piggy bank*
At present, there are seven U.S. military facilities in and around Japan, all of which the US pays for.
Please demonstrate that Japan is "literally the US's piggy bank."
Why do we have to be the police of the world to the United States? We just need to have the ability to protect our property. Yes, that's you robber!
J16 d version is now a pure electronic warfare aircraft
He already covered that
J16 EW doesn't pose a threat to USAF or Japan. It only poses a threat to Air Forces which are yet to have AWAC's and dedicated EW's in large quantity, like India.
Oh ho defence matrix ki copy
@@cecilmessi6972 india is buying more awacs i.e 6 more😎😎😎
J16 d 10+++++ generation aircraft 🤣
Fantastic channel! I come here because I don't always have time to read aviation books anymore, not like in HighSchool where I had tons of spare time and didn't really know it.
I collect aviation art books. My 3 favorite aviation themed art books are
- The Aviation Art of Lou Drendel by Lou Drendel
- Icon by Frank Frazetta
- Great Fighter Jets of the Galaxy 1 by Tim Gibson
In any war, NEVER UNDERESTIMATE YOUR ENEMIES, no matter how inferior are they...
How do you know China 🇨🇳 is inferior? Have you been to China 🇨🇳? From what I can see The United Terrorist States 🇺🇲 can only start wars. They can't finish wars!
In that vein, don't overestimate them either.
China's air force in its current form is sufficient to defend against threats over its own airspace, perhaps even a few hundred kilometers from its shores. However, it lacks offensive capability and experience in large scale joint operations. This will remain so for at least another decade. With that said, I fully expect PLAAF capabilities to significantly enhance in the coming decade. By 2035, it may even be able to go toe to toe with US and its allies in the Western Pacific theatre.
The capabilities are enough to take over Taiwan. Chinese Air Force doctrine has been heavily focussed on how to secure Air Superiority over Taiwan.
@@simonwhittaker6756 in a vacuum, yes. But China can't take Taiwan without risking loss of land in one of a dozen ongoing border disputes. Not to mention risk of supply chain disruption in the SCS. CCP can take Taiwan if it must. but it honestly can't afford to. Else it would have already....
Would be a shocker if China breaks its peaceful image by starting invasions like the US.
@@dznuts123 CCP has invaded India, Tibet, encroached into Taiwan airspace,, and has built on Burmese sovereign land
.. all in the last 10 yeard. China is a war monger state. BTW China would be speaking Japanese if not for the USA. You're welcome for the honey, Pooh bear.
That would only happen if their budget stays as it is (or gets increased)
But who knows.
Binkov same video on Indian Airforce
Fiery vindaloo or Rotten chicken tikka mosala
Its funny how we're all watching and making predictions about a war that is more likely than not gonna happen within our lifetimes, i wonder how right binkov is.
How do you know its not gonna happen in our life time? Conversely how would someone know its going to happen in our life time?
Going by China's increasing belligerence one can clearly say that the chances of a conflict are only increasing and in no aspect decreasing, so one thing is a given that the chances for a conflict are on the rise. Which means one has to be prepared for the worst case scenario, that is a war within our lifetimes.
Haha its likely gonna happen since Taiwan is gonna be invaded
@@randomrandom316 More likely than not means its more likely to happen then it isn't. It hasn't happened in the 70 or so years it could have, so there's no guarantee it can happen in the next 70 years. China could very likely take Taiwan without ever having to fire a shot--demographics, propaganda, economic pressures, and power projection will, over time, cause Taiwan to fall into the fold.
This belligerence against Taiwan is very likely just posturing and is designed not to serve as a lead up to a real conflict but as a means of achieving propaganda victories, making Taiwan feel more vulnerable and pressured, and maybe even getting a rise out of the US. Trying to take Taiwan by force would be a bloody and difficult thing to do.
Harbor Freight Air Force
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Yes you need to know how to make decent bearings if you are going to take on the USA Airforce.
Chinese escalators have more confirmed kills than their jet fighters
Salt digger.
OH SHIIIII
They might be scary if their engines could get beyond 90s russian designs and thrust
Sorry if this is mentioned later, but I wanted to comment that as soon as I saw the fleet size comparisons, it appears the US is going for the old British two power navy approach. 3300 planes is exactly as much as the next 2 air forces combined
If you really believe that China has 2000 fighter aircraft then you would also believe they had 5000 covid cases while other places had hundreds of thousands with a fraction of the Chinese population.
Not just those who served in the United States didn't retire age fighter, a lot of all of them to retirement. Now is the new and old replacement period of aircraft, so look more quantitatively
China has successfully created one of the very best second rate air forces in the world.
Lol... on par with Sadams AF
@@racebannon7209 You underestimate your enemy. Fail.
@@OhFookinELL nah it is the truth the conscript low experience chinese pilots are no match for veteran pilots pf russian or american pilots.
@@futureparasfcommando971 so when have you been a military General specialist ?? 🤣🤣
20 years ago, the old China, someone could be ignorant and say something about their poor quality. But today, with them leading in the industry in telecommunication, digital currency, artificial intelligence, solar energy, space travel, military technology etc soon semiconductors. China is a more formidable opponent than most would be willing to admit. China should move forward even with the haters and the haters that teach their children their toxicity.
No more chips for China. Weapons are of no use.
*Here comes the experts and Generals from the comments section*
Man up
Yeah
I'll go with the "flaming" option. Planes that crash tend to burn.
Here're the operational numbers of various Chinese warplanes, according to latest estimates:
J-7: mostly retired or on reserve, only around 50 to 60 J-7G variant still in active service
J-8: mostly retired or on reserve, only around 50 J-8F variant in active service
J-10: 500+ in service (all variants combined)
J-11B: 300+ in service
J-15: 50+
J-16: 200+ in service
J-20: somewhere between 60 to 100 are in service
Su-30MKK: 73 in service
Su-30MK2: 24 in service
Su-35: 24 in service
JH-7/7A: around 240 are in service
H-6K: around 100 in service
H-6J: around 20+
H-6N: 4+
KJ-500: 36+
KJ-200: 13+
KJ-2000: 4
KQ-200: 50+
That's what we call a "target-rich environment."
@@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 No , that's called being cocky and underestimating your opponent. Afghanistan, vietnam.... rings some bell??
@@moorishwarrior341 Vietnam was bad for the USAF, at first, but they adapted their tactics. And Afghanistan didn't shoot down any USAF planes. I think Iraq shot down one coalition plane back in the first Gulf War, but it wasn't an American plane. And there was one F117 shot down in Kosovo.
Are you confusing the US Army or the USMC with the USAF? Rookie mistake, junior. The USAF is the best in the world and their record is unmatched by any country. You may want to do a bit of research on that fact that they suffer so few losses due to enemy action.
@@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 USAF never fought a peer level adversary such as Russia and China, even though the USAF is the #1 in the world in terms of technology, training and numbers, it doesn't make other air forces such as that of China and Russia less capable.
@@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 It is a very target rich environment. Unfortunately for the US the environment in question is 100 miles from China, and thousands of miles from the US. I will geninely eat my hat if the US lasts more than 2 weeks before quitting/being defeated. Such a battle is almost impossible to win.
China has also been upgrading its oldest planes with AI in order to turn the jets into unmanned drones. That would increase their effectiveness considering that China wouldn't need to waste good pilots on older aircraft, which will now serve a reconnaissance and decoy roles. China can send out dozens or even hundreds of these jets in a first wave strike while actual manned and advanced jets fly among them undetected.
The Chinese are testing quantum communications and 6G from satellites !!
For the Chinese to turn their factories on war footing ... China can product 10 times more planes, tanks etc for each one they lose .
6:30 the video states that the numbers of the J-20 are low, but by early 2023, the PLA Airforce has 200-250 x J-20 in service (7-8 x Brigades).
This shows just how rapidly the PLA is able to build new equipment in a few years.
Nothing else, but Chinese dragons do not breathe fire. Chinese dragons are generally a symbol of wind and rain. In ancient mythology, they are generally good-natured gods in charge of rivers, oceans, and rain. Anyway, as a Chinese, I have never heard of a Chinese dragon that breathes fire.😃😉
as a chinese, have you ever tasted baby soup?
Let's hope we never have to find out!
Nice video Binkov! Could you make a video on the Afghanistan situation? Like what if Tajikistan (with and without Russia) fought a limited war with the Taliban?
Operation flashpoint red river flashbacks
I'm starting to wonder how many frickin' propaganda bots have posted here after lightly skimming the comments
Fr tho, I once saw a winnie the flu bot respond to an Indian human commenter on account of… well, account name alone… with a schoolyard insult; least racist wumao. What do they even think trying this desperately to spread their vile brand of ultra-nationalism will achieve, and what will it do to help their country’s already-crumbling reputation?
@@badpiggies988 Yeah, like, why the heck are they all even doing this? It's practically pointless!
It's the trend these days, what do you mean? Almost every country on Earth ever, does.
Treat them all like dragons and you’ll never be upset by a lizard
"US flight hours have been dipping in the past decade"
Former Maintainer - "FUCKING GOOD"
All the comments below are made with no access to accurate performance and schematic data, we have no idea how these planes will fare until they engage in combat with peer opponents.
Maybe you don't, and that's great.
That a fair point
@@chrome505 china closes of all information about it's military all information about it what they want everyone to think they lied about there economy lied who not to question these logic and Sense but I am curious what are you talking about
One thing to always keep in mind, planes, ships, tanks...they're ultimately just tools. It's the people operating them that determine how effective they are.
That's right, they don't have real war experiences like the US troops, who have conducted all kind of atrocities around the world.
@@johnlay3040
After Afghanistan the truth is real.
And the turkey is done.
Yup they dont have the training n experience like we do your 100% right
Yeah, but the young generation of US navy haven't had the real experience in this kind of warfare either. I'm not sure if the naval exercises with the Russian have provided Chinese with enough experience. But I won't underestimate the Chinese, they are formidable people. On the ground the US can't beat them, but on the sea, maybe.
Nobody can know except when the real fight starts. Just like ww2 Japanese fighter planes which were thought to be wooden toys before the war.
Thank you for an unbiased analysis. I think your analysis highlights the chinese air force has more of a defensive posture than the USAF.
Then you need to look at the "south and east china seas"
I mean it's pretty obvious USAF is one of power projection and maintaining American status quo, the status quo being able to power project. I don't dislike that about America at all, as given the same opportunity and circumtances, China would likely do the same thing, and I don't trust the Chinese government.
At least China is catching up, She has to defend herself, otherwise back to the humiliation century.
Too bad there are people here that only come to brag about "US superiority" and don't pay any attention to the videos
@@gups4963 They are called china seas for a reason....
All the members of the Flanker family are absolutely beautiful, be they Chinese or Russian or Indian
Agree
For me SU 30 is one of the most beautiful fighter aircraft...
@@mikiSS91 Nah bro Xina's the most beautiful
Agreed I personally find the one's without the canards to be the most good looking
@Simon Whittaker IAF actually bought second hand typhoons so that they can recycle the parts off those aircrafts to repair their current typhoons lol so pathetic. I guess they make good money from the call centers.
flaming dragon or baby tiger, they'll still be a pain if you challenge them.
especially on their home turf.
even if they lack of experience or quality compare to west but im pretty sure in the war time they can Mass produce them like Soviet union during Operation barbarossa
@@Fauzanarief-n7i probably.
we'll see.
@@Fauzanarief-n7i seriously, since when young west pilots have enough war experience against a sizable global powerhouse? They fought in Afghanistan for twenty years and do Afghan even have air defenses missiles or air forces? Lol. In turns of flight hours, west pilots still have an advantage over Chinese pilots but not as far.
Whatever it is.
There is no aircraft record of Gen 4 vs Gen 4.
Most of the previous wars always has been Gen 4 vs Gen 3.
The war will pretty much be a much worse version of the Korean War that would lead to WWIII
@@Fauzanarief-n7i The west also don't have many real air battle experience too.
While having state of the art aircraft is valuable, having pilots with combat flying experience is priceless.
Combat experience in what? Bombing insurgents with no airforce or air defenses?
People act like America has fought a modern military before lmfao What, did the Iraqis have Hypersonic missiles, 5th gen stealth fighters and satellite blockade technology? Or did Afgans process 055 destroyers or modern submarines? Nobody has ACTUAL experience, even all the mockups and joined exercises are just untested theories.
Everybody here thinks they’re military experts in the indo-pacific region. 🤣🤣🤣
Not specifically, more just expert in whatever they binged on RUclips last week. They even scoff at people that don’t know something they just found out.
I have a credible armchair to bring in my expertise.
Don’t forget the U.S. Navy as well. They have a ton of aircraft as well, last time I checked it was around 1800-1900 aircraft
The USAF is the largest air force in the world, and the US Navy is the second largest.
@@Julianna.Domina Wrong. FFS use Google.
Binkov listed all combat aircraft used by USAF, USN & USMC which is around 3000++. The large part of USN is helicopters and support aircraft.
It is all included in this video imbecile
Never underestimate combat experience. China is a growing threat for sure, though.
Oh The question if china have a balls to make it war in any country china is only barkx2 no bites
Wait until the Chinese figure out what it really costs to maintain a large air force. You have to figure in things like admin costs, waste disposal, fuel, people shortage, storage, maintenance, etc.
Why didn't take into account their ballistic missiles and area denial capabilities?
That's part of their Army Rocket Force, not their Air Force. It's a different branch of their military and thus moot to this discussion.
... and because those aren't aircraft.
Given that China is accused of opacity in their defense spending and their reported inventory, i believe they might have considerably more stuff than they let on.
Well China is very opinion driven nation. While countries like Russia and the US will try to hide their best the Chinese will not just show it but they will boast about it for a long time. So it is more likely the Chinese are overestimating what they have and how advanced their tech is rather than the opposite.
What you said reminds me general MacArthur in Korea war. He wouldn't believe a word from Chinese.
@@ulikemyname6744 The US and Russia also brag as hell about how this or that weapon system is the unbeatable game changer that will dominate any enemy. Every great power needs some chest thumping, but in many matters China guides itself by the Art of War.
@@leiyue1411 Macarthur wanted to start a nuclear war because he lost on the ground and Truman had to dismiss him for disloyalty and bad judgment.
@@ilnigromante666 China has way to many internal problems with corruption. China is cutting corners in every way possible. That's one downside of China. The other is that they are kinda used to stealing tech meaning they are not capable of producing on in the same quality as America. China is bragging about things they don't have and things that they have on paper but don't work as advertised
The U.S hasn't shown any new weapons as they haven't needed to. F-22 is the best fighter plane in the sky, it's almost 2 decades old.
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That is a pure myth.
@@bighands69 Plenty of people have seen it, and it most certainly is not.
Retire in 2030+
@@wageslave387: Yeh....project Aurora has been out since the late 80's early 90's has it not?
To the professional warfare experts here in the comments section, remember the words of Artanis, high lord of the Templar :
"Don't think of you as victorious yet, overconfidence is your enemy's best ally" or something like that,idk, I skipped the cinematics :v
I'm actually terrified of how close Taiwan, south Korea , Japan, Philippines the countries that china is messing with especially Philippines and Taiwan
@kevin barker Yes
Most Western nations call China's airforce "target practice". Having big numbers doesn't matter when the vast majority of their planes are zero threat
😂😂😂, exactly... that's why Americans are hesitant to ' liberate' them
@@sirbluebeetle2875 Liberate them from who, themselves? America would have zero benefit to defeating China so why would they even bother
@@mrcaboosevg6089 🤦🏻♂️ apparently, my comment wasn't simple enough to be understood. Here's what I'm saying, your original comment was meant to belittle China's airforce, hence I replied with sarcasm. To put it simply, if they are target practice. Why don't you guys go and train then? You're acting as if America has experience fighting any country.
Remember, Germany's army was taken as a joke before it was too late.
@@sirbluebeetle2875 ah you have a anti American view on things.... you do know America is the most battle proven force right win lose or just occupying a nation.
@@sirduke9124 Quite the contrary, I believe Americans are massively underestimating the Chinese hence. But thank God it's only the public.
US still on the edge when it comes to naval and air.US equipment is battle tested and well experienced.
They are well experienced against ground targets with no air cover, the USAF last air combat experience was in Kosovo and the first Gulf war, well over 20 years ago
@@gabbyprincip1575 Desert Storm was 30 years ago. Most old hands from that era have retired from service and that includes the entirety of the pilots.
Same case with the ones who flew in Kosovo - their contracts ended well over a decade ago, I'd say.
The closest adversary the US has every face was the Iraqi Airforce in Dessert Storm, and those monkey model MiG-29s were way behind in tech/training compared to the USAF. I don't think the US every faced a near peer adversary like China today so all those experience in War on Terror and later conflicts are largely irrelevant when it comes to anything other then air to ground strikes
In terms of quality, Chinese air force PLAAF is already superior to USAF. J16>F15ex, J10c>F16v, J20>F22/35, J16D>EA-18G, KJ2000>E3, PL15>AIM120, PL10e=AIM9x. The only disadvantage is quantity.
@@dsong2006 Not to mention that the Iraqi air force was also completely exhausted after sustaining heavy casualties during the Iran-Iraq war.
The USAF last proper engagement against an equally matched adversary was probably North Vietnam
It is not just the USAF that china has to worry about the USN and USMC. There air doctrine differs enough that in combat it would be difficult to know whom you are fighting. I say this with the F35 coming out in more numbers in each service.
Even if the Chinese built more J-20's we're supposed to believe the J-20 alone is gonna stop the US.
Especially when not only does the US have F-22 and F-35's but also the F-15EX and B-2 Spirit at its disposal. The US on airpower alone can outmatch even 300 J-20's and shoot down every J-16 or any other support craft. Even before they got onto the runway. The B-2 bombers alone woukd wreak havoc on their airfields and runways.
Papers dragon for sure their engines are trash
Lolz..Actually the second largest fleet of aircraft after the US Air Force is the US Navy, followed by the US Army, followed by Russian AF, followed by US marines, followed by China.
The US has over 13,500 military aircraft.
And all of them, even out helps are better at killing fast movers than any Chinese aircraft
There's no need to worry,
My Chinese friends told me that China is a agricultural country and all of their jets are used to seed.
So, China is not a dragon or tiger but just a farmer.
Cant tell if youre being satirical or not
You may search what is the strategic foo-yoo department of China. 中国战略忽悠局
@Viento Suelo Although India Still Lacks in Olympics Tokyo 2021 Is Undoubtedly India's Best Olympics Yet As Neeraj Chopra Got The 2nd Only Personal Gold Medal In Indian Olympic History And In Paralympics India Performed Very Good With Winning 19 Medal
The J-20 pesticide spreader jet
Dimwit. China is manufacturing. India is agricultural. Their Tejas copy of Mirage 2000 are dusting crops!
In a mayor conflict it will not be so important who has the most planes, but who can build the most planes. Acces to recources will be critical, and so naval power will play a huge role.
Come back in 5 years to see a Chinese air force that can match up to the US one.
Why match them when you they can just stop selling them iPhones lol 😆
Come back in 5 years and maybe be China will have their very first 5th generation fighter.
@@Cheesecake99YearsAgo 🤣🤣 fkin corporations apple would never
SOME APPLE ELECTRONIC PRODUCTS ARE ACTUALLY MADE IN CHINA （Apple China）
Wait a minute. The United States Airforce is the largest in the world! The United States Navy has the second largest airforce in the world!
But in aircraft in total, it still is not that much bigger then china’s total aircraft
Why hasn't RUclips done anything about bot posts yet?
They don’t want to alienate their main source of ad revenue- unless of course they’re russian, in which case they’d have a media time bomb on their hands at this point and would eventually have to address it for fear of being cancelled
The essence of war is not the strength of weapons. Surrendering the enemy without fighting is the highest strategy. Winning with odds and winning with less is the best tactic.The right time and place and the right people, and the indestructible will is the key to victory. The development of more advanced weapons is to better protect own country and people, not to use force to invade and bully others.
Unfortunately, with imperialist countries, them using their weapons becomes an inevitability.
Taiwan would disagree about what you're using those weapons for 😉 by that logic we could say that Europe and Africa are American based on historical ties
Nice bomber. Welcome to the 20th century, China.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. But still bombers are essential once air dominance is established.
@@cecilmessi6972 Only in china's Dream
How is that different from US and Russian bombers with origins from the 1950s? If it drops bombs.. it works.
Just so you know a fierce dragon is a myth. Plus Chinese have no battle experience, you see experience matters in wars even more than weapons.
Too bad China doesn't have a real world testbed and training ground like Syria for Russia.
Or Afghanistan for USA and Nato
Taiwan: haha I’m in danger!
@B J the us is actually concerned that those "real life experience" is teaching their military all the wrong lessons for a war against a great power like china or russia.
@@mxn1948 They are probably right. WW1 British generals were notorious for sending their men over the trenches straight into German machine gun fire, when those same tactics worked well against poorly armed natives with limited firepower.
@B J thank you I've been saying this for the longest, its only a test bed for SOF and ground weapons.
Awesome vid, thanks Binkov
Chinese air force got a great potential.
Thing is they can mass produced in short notice, or without notice under emergency and they got all the resources. Maybe a little short on fuel. But they can invade Mongolia and Design Mongolian coal power jets lol
Great potential for malfunctioning due to "high" quality communist Chinese products.
great potential to copy other shitty jets
This is Sechwan Sauce..coming in hot
This is Stewed Pork Rice, five by five
This is ham and cheese sandwich coming in wet
@@justsomeguy1019 yeahhhh your not really getting the theme here are you
Rick: I want that brrrrrrb McNugget sauce Morty.
Sechwan sauce actually very good👍🏻
lack of air to ground weapons, air lifting capabilities, oversea bases, but strong at air to air, air to ship. PLAF is focusing on self protection instead of attacking
China have massive amount of drones for land attack. Also land base missiles
Paper tiger is more like it.
There is no substitute for aerial combat vets training new pilots.
There's very few Chinese combat pilots with recent flight hours in actual combat conditions.
Any furball with US Navy and Air Force pilots will result in a turkey shoot, with horrible losses for the Chinese.
Yea, those US transgender fighter pilots will cancel Chinese air force
I doubt it. The Vietcong didnt care about your air superiority wheb they kicked American ass 🤣🤣🤣
@@andilebless5533 another know it all that knows nothing. It amazes me.
Lots of cope and triggered in this comment section. This is hilarious, thumbs up 😂
When will we see Chinese bombers flying off the coast of the USA? Russia used to do that, China never has. Chinese fishing boats are more of a threat than PLAAF!
Times have changed, and they send them to taiwan instead as thats step one in any global expansion. it will happen in this decade.
Why would they do that?
Its a waste of time and resources, flying over Taiwan, South Korea and Japan already gets that job done
Doesn't scare me. American and Russian bombers used to fly within hours of each other during my childhood, we didn't stop living day to day 👩🔧🇺🇲🛠️🇷🇺
@@tclements8331 nah it won't happen within the decade.
As many people knows that only the American has the abilities to strike any country in the world within 48 hours.
China has no need to show off offensive power. It’s for defensive.
Adolescent dragon might be the right metaphor. It's going to grow up soon.
Nice metaphor, though it's a malnourished juvenile fated to be stunted.
More like teenage redwood tree, given how unbelievably behind they are compared to the US. The very best of what China has is maybe a match for our older jets in the USAF, and their training and experience are decades behind ours.